Boss Brings Back a Roland Classic! - NEW Boss SDE-3000D & SDE-3000EVH!

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  • @musikus7092
    @musikus7092 Год назад +30

    Tuning the guitar with chorus effect is "next level"

  • @theguitarbunker
    @theguitarbunker Год назад +21

    I was using the Roland SDE-3000 during the 1980s. Never played guitar without it. The original ‘always on’ effect!

  • @sebrura
    @sebrura Год назад +14

    "One can never have too many delay pedals"
    - Greek proverb

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 Год назад +1

      "Ha! The Greeks invented Delay pedals while your ancestors were swinging from the trees." -My Big Fat Greek Dad

  • @paulburton5150
    @paulburton5150 Год назад +74

    “the presets start to repeat themselves” - isn’t that what you’d want from a delay pedal? 😂

    • @gavterrygt
      @gavterrygt Год назад +8

      I literally just came here to say this 😂

    • @PeeDee69
      @PeeDee69 Год назад +1

      I think he meant the presets are all the same because they came stock. When you buy it you'll make your own presets. Thus "the presets repeat themselves" = "the presets are all the same". As opposed to the 24:00 mark where the evh has unique presets based on Van Halen.

  • @ledhendrix5054
    @ledhendrix5054 Год назад +5

    I still have the Original Roland SDE-3000 , To me its still a Beautiful sounding machine ,

  • @Dan_Ranger
    @Dan_Ranger Год назад +8

    The EVH version has a great noise suppressor as well. Good for high gain amps.

  • @johnpickk7526
    @johnpickk7526 Год назад +32

    nothing beats these 80s rack units imo, i hear a noticable difference, probably due to the higher bit rate and upgrades, i just wish they would have a 'failthful' or 'old school' mode added to replicate the old units perfectly

    • @Ilicet
      @Ilicet Год назад +7

      i agree, i can hear a noticeable difference

    • @hankgalt
      @hankgalt Год назад +5

      Pete Thorn said they spent weeks A/B ing this thing with the units in EVH’s actual rig and got it to where they couldn’t hear a difference, fwiw. Maybe what you’re hearing is due to the recording or some such 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 Год назад

      love my 2290, when it is functioning.

    • @patrickrosington1174
      @patrickrosington1174 Год назад +4

      I promise they sound exactly the same. They used two different amps for each unit it the video. That's the small difference you hear

    • @johnpickk7526
      @johnpickk7526 Год назад +1

      @@patrickrosington1174 I highly doubt that. Do you own both units? The main difference im hearing is how the original fades with the repeats, something that the new unit doesn't do the same way. From the video, I promise they're different lol

  • @w1zard0f0h
    @w1zard0f0h Год назад +2

    Some of the coolest stuff boss has put out in years.

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM Год назад +2

    My friend still has his original one, we used it a lot in the day. Great delay unit.

  • @marekw7562
    @marekw7562 Год назад +9

    I adore UI on new boss SDE. It reminds me control panel from Back to the Future.
    Tbh vintage digital gear ain't that bad if you spend some time.
    I still use (for home use) line 6 pod XT pro with alesis midiverb4 an bbe sonic maximizer... It is so inspiring and reasonably loud with all-around HiFi.
    Give old gear a try. It doesn't have to be bad

  • @chrismataran
    @chrismataran Год назад +8

    Boss Katana amps have an SDE 3000 emulation which really sounds great among a lot of other FX

  • @snapfinger1
    @snapfinger1 Год назад +5

    1973 Roland RE 201 Space Echo. Still the gold standard.

  • @etpslick100
    @etpslick100 Год назад +2

    I became a fan of the SDE-3000 when my favorite guitarist Steve Lukather was raving about them back in the 80’s. I scraped and saved a got one; I play bass. OMG! What a box! NOW they made it into a pedal? 2 @ THAT? EPIC!!! I’m getting one for my bass rig!! The EVH sounds epic as well! R.I.P Eddie! Wish you were down here to be apart of this. But then again; in spirit, you are.😌🙏🏾🕊️🎸🎶👍🏾

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 Год назад +2

      Aren't you glad you survived to be alive for such a time as this?

    • @etpslick100
      @etpslick100 Год назад +1

      @@squirelova1815 You know what? Yes I am! I wonder if Boss would take the Roland DRV-2000 and turn THAT into a pedal. That would be crazy! Just a thought.😌🎶👍🏾

    • @rockstarjazzcat
      @rockstarjazzcat 9 месяцев назад

      4 delay lines instead of one 🙌🏻

  • @edsterling5258
    @edsterling5258 Год назад +12

    This thing would be great for keyboards.

  • @Turbo-D
    @Turbo-D Год назад +4

    i have the very old boss gp-8 and still use it since 30 years now 🙏🎸

  • @WutipongWongsakuldej
    @WutipongWongsakuldej Год назад +3

    those 7-segments LED do have nostalgic feeling to it.

  • @moorecreativ
    @moorecreativ Год назад +1

    im so happy i could cry. i don't need this at all....but i NEED the EVH

  • @RobinYee-xc9vf
    @RobinYee-xc9vf Год назад

    Pedals, are one and only ! This words always, in our minds,; you are the best .

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 Год назад

      Yeah, like, that's great! Come again when you've sobered up.

  • @Silkaz7
    @Silkaz7 Год назад +6

    80's is the best decade period.

    • @Allison_Chaynes
      @Allison_Chaynes Год назад +2

      Nope. Early 90s.
      That way you can enjoy what was 80s, but then you had an explosion of great music from other bands.
      1. Jane's Addiction (Ritual)
      2. RHCP (BSSM)
      3. SMASHING PUMPKINS (GISH)
      4. TOOL
      5. Faith No More
      6. NINE INCH NAILS
      7. NIRVANA
      8. ALICE IN CHAINS
      ETC....
      ETC...
      ETC...

  • @harshtruth9148
    @harshtruth9148 Год назад +6

    Pete Thorn did the EVH version very nice

  • @masterofreality230
    @masterofreality230 Год назад +4

    My main delay is a Volante, this pedal paired with a nice tape/drum delay would be wild.

  • @akwamarsunzal
    @akwamarsunzal Год назад +6

    Good job Boss.... I actually prefered the Boss to the original!

  • @tedrackley6233
    @tedrackley6233 Год назад

    Always sounded great...and still DOES! Good job, Peter!!

  • @MrUmandMrEr
    @MrUmandMrEr Год назад +1

    Pete’s saucy joke near the end. Masterful. (From 25:05)

  • @Mossy5150
    @Mossy5150 Год назад +2

    The EVH presets are all described in detail in the Boss owner's manual documentation, so you can definitely recreate those on the SDE-3000D without having to buy the EVH version. Basically what the EVH version brings to the table is the unique W/D/W output capability that goes alongside a 4-cable method of connecting to a high-gain amp.

    • @hankgalt
      @hankgalt Год назад +4

      And cool graphics, which make it a No brainer for an EVH dork like myself 🤘🏻🎸

    • @Rigjoker64
      @Rigjoker64 Год назад +1

      The details are for the presets that come after the EVH ones … all 8 EVH ones have totally hidden parameters

  • @Emet.V
    @Emet.V Год назад +2

    As a delay junky this is on my radar 10fold

  • @Tim.Traveler
    @Tim.Traveler Год назад +3

    Great Video - Pete Thorn also covers this delay today.

    • @richlife06
      @richlife06 Год назад +2

      Pete Thorn helped develop the pedal.

  • @gregrandallbtsr03
    @gregrandallbtsr03 Год назад

    Always love to hear Pete play, but that outro was amazing!

  • @mikaelphjohansson
    @mikaelphjohansson Год назад +1

    Eyes Without A Face. Great start👍

  • @karlmar2
    @karlmar2 Год назад +2

    The numbers screen did that come from The Delorean from BACK TO THE FUTURE

  • @Knightsie
    @Knightsie Год назад +1

    Damn! Sounds Ace! That outro is incredible.

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner Год назад +3

    Do check out "Canadian Pete's" heartfelt deep dive into the EVH version. Yes, Pete Thorn.

  • @aftertheendtimes
    @aftertheendtimes Год назад +2

    Rack units rules🤗 stupid boxes everywhere tend to be bit messy, but a good thing that Roland bring it back 🙏❤️🤗 Love to Captain and Pete.

  • @aftecbello6500
    @aftecbello6500 Год назад +3

    I hope there is a global eq on this, to cut all that brittle top end. Universal Audio did it properly with the SDD-3000, hope a firmware update comes soon for these.

    • @professorgillsguitargearga6388
      @professorgillsguitargearga6388 Год назад +1

      It wasn’t a true fair AB comparison. The pedal and original unit are each connected to entirely different amp models - not exactly the best way to make a comparison.

    • @professorgillsguitargearga6388
      @professorgillsguitargearga6388 Год назад

      Maybe it’s because the new unit was connected to a Victory V40 combo (graphic says v140, but that’s a head), which has 6L6 tubes, while the classic original went thru a Victory DP40 with EL34 tubes? Maybe the speakers are also different, not to mention combo vs. cabinet? Too many variables are in play.

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman Год назад

    Very groovy stuff guys. Thanks for the upload.

  • @houseofshred3725
    @houseofshred3725 Год назад +1

    5:56 There should be a reduced bit mode in the new one. That and the treble attenuation. "Old School" mode.

  • @lancecluster
    @lancecluster Год назад

    Just me, but I always chuckle at the way Pete slips in the "like and subscribe".

  • @davidsparks6146
    @davidsparks6146 Год назад +2

    If only BOSS had included a distortion bank as well - one pedal to rule them all!

    • @McGarvey_music_1
      @McGarvey_music_1 Год назад

      That would be cool I could use with to get the different delay and modulation sounds that I use, but it would be nice to have a dirt settings on it too

  • @dancrowe7860
    @dancrowe7860 Год назад

    The DeLorean in the background is a nice touch.

  • @mike42441
    @mike42441 Год назад +3

    Does the original rack unit sound warmer than the new pedal, or is it just me?

  • @nym053
    @nym053 Год назад +1

    There's definetly a significant difference in high frequency content. The pedal has more of it. Not a bad thing.

  • @markgrant1302
    @markgrant1302 Год назад +4

    For those of you, who saw the EVH version in the title of this video and actually want to hear it, here's a video Pete Thorn just posted, Pete was actually involved in the development of this product, and because outside of andertons Eddie Van Halen is one of the most important guitar players of all time... here's a real video about the product
    ruclips.net/video/1EYgPfFeLR0/видео.html

    • @squirelova1815
      @squirelova1815 Год назад +1

      After just "Fair Warning" Eddie could have "mic drop" retired with nothing more to prove. Savagely talented force of nature he was. "Fair Warning" was his favorite album btw, and mine too.

  • @alexkennedy7671
    @alexkennedy7671 Год назад

    Pete Thorn covered the EVH version very well, you should give him a peek guys, you'll love it!
    Cheers
    Alex

  • @antonyedwardson9900
    @antonyedwardson9900 Год назад

    That outro made me Run Like Hell!

  • @superbear9569
    @superbear9569 Год назад +2

    I remember once i was in Andertons and some guy tried to steal a guitar. He made a run for the door with a Squier Jizzmaster under his coat. Lee jumped over the counter and took him out with one swift kick to the head then dragged him to the back of the shop. Never found out what happened to the guy, last thing i remember was him mumbling incoherently in Danish with drool coming out of his mouth.

  • @Allison_Chaynes
    @Allison_Chaynes Год назад +2

    Line 6 needs to bring back the FM4 with an expression pedal already built in to it. Maybe do the Distortion, also.

    • @feelmytool
      @feelmytool 11 месяцев назад

      Yes. Why they only focus on the DL4 is beyond me when they have the other great pedals they could focus on.

  • @domg7616
    @domg7616 Год назад

    Sounds amazing .

  • @BradMiller007
    @BradMiller007 Год назад +5

    Pete Thorn had a lot to do with the development of this pedal

  • @RobinYee-xc9vf
    @RobinYee-xc9vf Год назад

    New release 's! New pedals!!! OMG !!;;

  • @RyanMcQuen
    @RyanMcQuen 4 месяца назад

    That delay offset seems that it would be useful for getting Holdsworth-y tones.

  • @charlespolenzani2219
    @charlespolenzani2219 Год назад +1

    Well if you were wanting to make a video on how the original was better, mission accomplished. The older one was warmer, fuller, less brittle, and more pleasing to the ear.

  • @lovesteersthestars
    @lovesteersthestars Год назад

    Love that DeLorean over there

  • @SuperEdge67
    @SuperEdge67 Год назад +1

    Does this have The Edge on its competitors.

  • @ProcashFloyd
    @ProcashFloyd Год назад +1

    Speaking of bringing back stuff, Are they ever going to bring back DD2 Delay?

  • @squirelova1815
    @squirelova1815 Год назад

    My wife says I'm "escaped from the 80's" but, I never did escape. Oh well... "I guess I picked the wrong week to quit Delay pedals...what do you make of this Johnny?"

  • @rockstarjazzcat
    @rockstarjazzcat 9 месяцев назад

    phase switches are anything but “subtle” when creating specific chorus and flange effects. welcome features that were unobtanium for most of us in the eighties.

  • @effess8698
    @effess8698 Год назад

    oh lordy that outro 😍

  • @williamrutherford9997
    @williamrutherford9997 4 месяца назад

    I thought the rack units were supposed to get a line level signal from a preamp or fx loop. Were they designed to take instrument signal? This rack unit sounds a lot better to me than the new device, maybe because of the different amps.

  • @jawsxx8683
    @jawsxx8683 Год назад

    I was about to buy an H90, then I heard this. I bought the EVH instead...not to try to sound like Eddi, but because it didn't suck tone out of the amp like all these other multi-effects pedals do.

  • @itzfast
    @itzfast 8 месяцев назад

    How do you set the time to 8d or dotted 8 notes

  • @Scottuz
    @Scottuz Год назад

    Very Dark Side, Wallish, or even Momentary lapse, sounding, thru cans?
    excellent for those of the MaryJ persuasion✌🏼

  • @ClayAllred
    @ClayAllred Год назад +1

    That guitar looks really nice, what is it?!

  • @MotherFarquhar
    @MotherFarquhar Год назад +1

    Should be into two JC120's

  • @marvelherman419
    @marvelherman419 Год назад

    Amazing!

  • @pjmtry7
    @pjmtry7 Год назад

    Nice comparing the original on here!

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 Год назад +1

    Why is it so much brighter?

    • @McGarvey_music_1
      @McGarvey_music_1 Год назад

      I’d say because it’s digital but so was the other one so idk. Maybe because it is newer but I am not that well versed in that department to give you a good answer

  • @tuomaspietinen1485
    @tuomaspietinen1485 11 месяцев назад

    I have a feeling that this video once again potentially lowers my bank balance.

  • @rushandothercoversongs6166
    @rushandothercoversongs6166 Год назад

    This would be a nice addition to my Alex lifeson Hentor Sportscaster

  • @murudaran2043
    @murudaran2043 Год назад

    What guitar is Pete using?

  • @xsm5525
    @xsm5525 Год назад

    Can you put keyboards/synths through it too?

  • @alexlifeson8946
    @alexlifeson8946 Год назад +4

    It's Ed's 90's tone. Not 80's.

  • @John_2Much_Coffee
    @John_2Much_Coffee Год назад

    Sounds great. But with a Dual digital delay, I feel somewhere Digital John feels left out 😉

  • @DarthV506
    @DarthV506 Год назад +3

    Pretty cool, but holy crap at the price. I'm sure the boss will do exactly what someone wants, that's great. But you can buy an HXFX that offers a crazy amount of effects for the same money.

    • @Place_to_keep_videos
      @Place_to_keep_videos Год назад

      Exactly. Are some of these pedals late to the parade? I can have multiple delays if I wanted to, and the HX delays are great.

    • @Gibson1976uk
      @Gibson1976uk Год назад

      And a DD-500 is a lot cheaper!!!

    • @sordel5866
      @sordel5866 Год назад

      Yes, it's ridiculously niche. Cool that it exists but I can't see them being popular.

    • @tone-talk
      @tone-talk Год назад +1

      @@sordel5866 they sold out mostly everywhere

    • @sordel5866
      @sordel5866 Год назад

      @@tone-talk Interesting ... shows what I know! I guess I'll have to assert with no information at all that it was a small production run!

  • @Citizen-1a
    @Citizen-1a Год назад +2

    Looks great except for the ridiculous placement of the MIDI sockets on the side, when there is clearly space on the back of the unit.

    • @peterschaefer1665
      @peterschaefer1665 Год назад

      I totally agree jeez

    • @professorgillsguitargearga6388
      @professorgillsguitargearga6388 Год назад

      That’s because the EVH version takes up that extra space with its EXT loop and added Dry output jack. Because they both share the same foundation, the logical solution was to move the MIDI and USB jacks to the side rather than place the EXT loop on the side of the EVH version.

  • @jeffjoy738
    @jeffjoy738 Год назад +1

    13:28 volume swells remind me of Allan Holdsworth

  • @thechronicnoizeco.6675
    @thechronicnoizeco.6675 Год назад

    Ol’ Pete seems extra inspired here.

  • @AndrewNichols921
    @AndrewNichols921 Год назад

    is Boss going to do a SRV3000D Reverb as well?

  • @xsm5525
    @xsm5525 Год назад +1

    looks and sounds great, but £600 for the EVH one? seems a bit over priced, I'll wait a year or so for it to come down.

  • @nycshelbygt500
    @nycshelbygt500 Год назад

    On the Vintage Roland SDE-3000 Rack Delay what's the voltage on the back label? Japan uses 100V AC , US Model has 117V AC, so I am guessing the UK/Europe Models use 240V AC or you need a Transformer. #MegaTron #Variac
    What the difference between the Roland SDE-3000 and SDE-3000A Rack Delay models?

    • @professorgillsguitargearga6388
      @professorgillsguitargearga6388 Год назад +1

      3000A has extra paint for the “A” on the front panel. Otherwise it’s identical to the 3000. i worked for Roland from 87-91 when they released the 3000A, which was really just a reissue of the 3000. Roland Japan just didn’t want to admit it because “we design the future.” It’s really nothing more than that.

  • @Ebusje
    @Ebusje Год назад

    I'm going to wait for the Strymon Timeline 2.

  • @peterschaefer1665
    @peterschaefer1665 Год назад

    I hope rack comes back Cap!

  • @douglasdog1
    @douglasdog1 Год назад +2

    Why would I not just buy the EVH one? Seems like it’s more versatile.

    • @Eolithmusic
      @Eolithmusic 6 месяцев назад

      It's the same pedal except a direct out, paint job, more expensive, and van Halen patches.

  • @Moonraker-xyz
    @Moonraker-xyz 9 месяцев назад

    The original sounds like tape so warm

  • @Elsandria
    @Elsandria Год назад

    Sold!

  • @DAZ0204
    @DAZ0204 Год назад

    I think the look on Cap’s face at 1:22, when Pete kicks the new version on while playing with gain, says a lot. The original sounds stellar and the new emulation seems to have an unpleasing top end and tone to it. The SDE3000D simply doesn’t sound all that great in this video. It sounds thinner, compressed, and has a nasty edge to the top end. I hate to see this; I’d otherwise want one very badly.

  • @DudeMcGuybro
    @DudeMcGuybro Год назад +2

    Show me where to buy that beautiful blue Fender that Pete is playing and I will finance my kidneys to buy it to match my purple mischief maker😘😂

  • @tah5w
    @tah5w Год назад +1

    This may be the first use of the expression "bitrate vintage". In 40 years, old heads will be like "I only use that low bitrate OG gear, screw that quantum shit"

  • @janstaugaard4098
    @janstaugaard4098 Год назад +1

    The guitar brand?
    Jan from Denmark

    • @simonbrown1572
      @simonbrown1572 Год назад

      PJD made in Japan. The factory make other brands guitars like Ibanez

    • @andertons
      @andertons  Год назад +3

      PJD is a British brand, made in the north of England.

    • @terrybanks5063
      @terrybanks5063 Год назад

      @@simonbrown1572 fake news 😛

  • @chrisnewey
    @chrisnewey Год назад

    Where's the purple tele?

  • @OurFreeReflections
    @OurFreeReflections Год назад

    no treble loss on the new SDE! ooooo

  • @fiveways
    @fiveways Год назад +3

    The old one really shines when gain is added. The newer version is so bright and just kinda gross sounding.
    And considering you can get a vintage one for around the same price it is a no brainer. Like at least when korg did this they picked a unit that was very expensive, fairly rare, and spent a lot of time getting the analog side and preamp right.
    I get it most modern guitars are afraid of rack units. I understand that. But tonally they often just sound better simply because more thought was put into building a decent unit that exist in both the digital and analog realm, and trying to cover up the limits of digital at that point in time. It gives the units a character so few modern devices have.

    • @fiveways
      @fiveways Год назад +1

      For a modern example there is Oto, the French company does some absolutely incredible sounding and very very vintage digital effects. Their reverb and delay are incredible (I suspect their filter also is but I haven't tried it). Just they have a weird table top format which seems to scare away a lot of guitarist from using their products (beyond bands like Sunn0))) or Sumac/Old Man Gloom in the studio).

    • @skinsolproductions
      @skinsolproductions Год назад +1

      Also racks usually had a much higher power draw giving more headroom

    • @fiveways
      @fiveways Год назад +2

      @@skinsolproductions yep. Basically the rack shines in every way but being pedalboard friendly, which I get is a make or break for a lot of people. I'm just one of those people that doesn't really care about that kinda thing. Lugging gear has always been part of the job.

    • @skinsolproductions
      @skinsolproductions Год назад

      @@fiveways the weird sample rates are also everything

    • @fiveways
      @fiveways Год назад

      @@skinsolproductions funny I had to explain the 13 bit sdd-3000 to a friend last weekend who'd never looked into it before as we were discussing units with unique analog preamps in older racks.
      Love that stuff. I have a weird love of 80s and 90s stuff few get now.

  • @Mr.Owl9
    @Mr.Owl9 Год назад

    OMG, vintage Digital is a thing now... the old one sounds sooooo much warmer ! LOL !!!

  • @hiimawasteoftime8678
    @hiimawasteoftime8678 Год назад +2

    Somehow the Boss sounds more in tune😅

  • @techgamer1597
    @techgamer1597 18 дней назад

    Please now do SDE-3

  • @renevandalen96
    @renevandalen96 9 месяцев назад

    I stay with my strymon timeline...still not beaten😊

  • @sagittated
    @sagittated Год назад +2

    "Aww you don't need those bougie pedals. Just get a bunch of Boss and stuff."
    Boss: "We understand you're looking for a $600 delay pedal..."

  • @vansongs
    @vansongs Год назад

    Was getting a bit of an Alex Lifeson vibe in the final play out.

  • @slacknote
    @slacknote Год назад

    I've got an old SDE-3000 and it sounded fantastic until it died on me. I do dub and prefer to use a delay on an Aux send on the mixing desk, route the output back to an input on the desk and then send the delay back into itself. The problem is this sounds rubbish with a lot of delays when you mix the internal delay feedback with the feedback from the desk. I suppose it's caused by the latency of the DSP in the unit. I'd love to buy the SDE-3000D, but I suppose I will have this problem with it.

  • @johnlong5003
    @johnlong5003 Год назад

    Have they finally put USB C a pedal

  • @ilovegreenock
    @ilovegreenock Год назад

    "The times were everything was better" aka the nineteen hundreds 😂😂😂😂