But, the badge..... They aren't trying to be competitive. You either stump up or look elsewhere. This brand is for those whom money is no object. Trying to "stretch to a Porsche" is pointless. With regard to price, "the only way is up! (baby, for you and me now)"
Great review Tom! I’ve had my 2L (Gen2 as I preferred real buttons) since Nov and as a daily it works a treat. The Gen3 wait times for any engine were too long and stepping up from a mk7 Golf R, I enjoy the shared engine characteristics (albeit distant) but in a much more plush and refined package. The 2.9 is an amazing engine, but with similar options and on roads the price difference was too large to justify! Also the 3/4 Apple car play view does gets a bit of grief but in reality it works really well. With the small widget panel the left being configurable you just swipe up/down giving you the different views. You can have CarPlay app running maps, and listen to the radio widget or the other way round, Spotify on the CarPlay and maps in the widget screen.
Tom, we like Ponch reviewing base models - that’s his. Balanced by the occasional supercar reviews to aide Ponch’s perspective and generally keeping it real!
Yes, it is a Porsche, however it’s not only the engine that give me VW vibes. The headrests and many of the materials in the vehicle look eerily similar to my VW Passat.
Great review as always Tom. But I think you should've tested the macan T instead. It comes standard with pasm(adaptive dampers),20 inch S wheels, sports chrono package,quad exhaust,gts sports seats,heated front seats,pdls headlights and more. It retails for about $91K plus on road costs.
That wasn’t possible. The Macan T was only unveiled a couple of weeks ago and won’t be released in Australia until mid-year - and this was intended to be a review of the cheapest Macan.
The Macan T doesn’t really make much sense. Why would you want Sport Chrono and 18 way Sport seats on the base… The base has always been made for mums taking their kids to school who want the Porsche badge. The T is just a way for salesmen to upsell your typical base customer.
Let me guess: you bought a crossover SUV to have a sportscar track experience? Sounds delusional to think the S and GTS will regularly give you pleasure on ordinary roads.
Great review. Only thing I will say, and will probably get some hate for this. But it doesn’t surprise me AEB and adaptive cruise isn’t standard and you have to pay extra. These European cars are such a rip off compared to the Japanese or Korean equivalent. Which would have it as standard.
Totally agree. I used to love Porsche, but they’ve become overpriced poverty pack specials and just aren’t worth the money, except for a 911. A “base” model Korean car has way more features and 95% of the people driving them would notice the difference in “performance” on public roads with speed cameras everywhere. Even the base model Porsche should have AEB and adaptive cruise.
Let me tell you why ppl choose base model. It is for some one already has a powerful car and this is the secondary car for the family, especially for wife to drive around dropping kids off.
Thanks Tom! In your S review, you said “you don’t need air suspension”. However in this one you said air suspension is the way you’d go. Could you elaborate a bit more please?
You don’t need it, precisely, because the ride is quite good on this car’s fixed dampers - but the air suspension elevates the ride from good to great. No bad options here.
Great review as usual, keen to see you doing a comparison of Q5 sportsback, Tiguan R (When it comes) and Macan. would be great video if you do back to back reviews.
A Porsche is not for value for money shoppers, which is what I am. I bought the Mazda CX-5 Signature with 2.5 ltr turbo engine. The Mazda weighs about 300 kg less so the acceleration is better, than 2.0 ltr Porsche, plus it has a good bit more torque. If you swap out the factory tires for something better, like the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 and up the size a bit to 245/50-19, the difference in handling and all other aspects is dramatic. This is exactly what I did. The quality and driving experience of the Mazda is very high and it comes with every worthwhile and important feature for about 20K less than the Porsche. It is very close to the Porsche in driving fun. But you don't get the Porsche emblem or the very high cost of ownership.
My girlfriend just ordered the new Macan T it should be here around September I am really excited to get my hands on it and steal it from her on daily basis.😂
Love the new baby seat segment - may be worth buying a pram for the boot segment! Most boot spaces don’t really fit prams that’s well (medium suv) and there’s little room for much else. Good wrap as well.
"buy a CX5 turbo petrol and be happy" (fixed it for you as Mazda haven't sorted how to scrub the diesel exhaust gases without killing their motors) The turb pet makes stout torque, is tuned for efficiency rather than power, is kinder to your family's lungs and won't disintegrate at 100000km.
No relation in the platform to either Golf or Tiguan - the point is that the EA888 engine is available in everything from a Polo to the Macan within the Group.
But does it “drive like a porche”? That question was really skirted around, despite being asked constantly at the beginning of the video Or did it miss it
Porsches depreciate like crazy, so you can get a pretty good one with a lot of life in it - if you don't mind buying a slightly used one. You can even get one with extra options, and it will still be a fraction of the cost of the least expensive, new base model. Macan is still new enough I don't think the depreciation has fully kicked in, but give it time...
@@mheeler My '09 Cayenne GTS was $17k w/ 80k miles - while used Macans are still $30k+. Since I tend to drive cars to 300k miles, there's a lot of life left - and $17k is a fraction of the original $84k that it cost in '09 (I have the original sticker with the papers). Still, $30k is a a third the cost of a $90k new Macan, and my Cayenne is 5 years older - so probably fits on the same depreciation curve. Don't know if the percentage is different from other cars - but when you can get a Porsche (or other high end SUV) with lots of options for $17k, or a "plain vanilla" SUV of same age and miles for $8k, then what you get for the price differential starts to look pretty good.
Test drove this and frankly was disappointed. Yes it looks like a Porsche but that is about it. Imagine if you had a Porsche body over a Volvo S6 4 cylinder Turbo engine - that's what this is. All style and no substance. Spend the extra and get the GTS if you are buying a Porsche.
You’re putting words in our mouth. We said we want a measure of our own that we can transfer from car to car - not just a made up literage figure that never seems consistent. Nor are suitcases - everybody has different sizes! Balls are the right way to go.
In a world where petrol is more than $2 a litre, no way would I spend 20k on an engine that would drink more. I am definitely looking into the hybrid or electric motor vehicles now, with the sudden increase in cost of living.
Including the bit where I say not to buy this variant? Strange thing for a paid salesperson to say! We are a fully independent publication that does not take advertising from car manufacturers. Thanks
i just have exactly such a Macan. I cannot complain în general but I was thinking Porsche name would make me feel a little different than driving other cars. Not impressed at all. Clearly the producer was not focused on user but probably on other tehnical aspects. There are cars, for ex. Volvo XC60 , where all what you need is going natural în your hand. Every thing is at the right place. Not with Macan where the heating of the steering wheel was discovered by me after some time hidden under the steering wheel, maybe Porsche saved some paint instead to put a visible sign. The console space is accesibile by turning back not easy during drivinig. Mirrors and visibility is not the best. For viewing camera it is possible only by going to rear ! Of course you cannot drive in rear always when you need a camera view. Not to mention that camera view when the car is presented at 90 degrees position to driving direction ! Thus many unnatural things. This is why I said Porsche was not making the car for people. În addition the interior is obsolete even if the quality is not so bad. It is clear Porsche didn't invested în this facelift even if the price was kept high. Conclusion: it is better to look from outside than to drive it. It means I can have the badge visible to other people but not to enjoy myself. If I ignore all these I can say the car is Ok. The review was very good , I just added some from my recent experience. Just to mention I took Macan being the only car available in stock în these curios times.
I’d disagree if you’re someone who cares about driving dynamics. If you just want a luxurious small suv or you’re just buying for a badge, then yes it’s overpriced. But it drives so much better and feels far superior if you love driving and the feel of driving than any competitor.
The CX60 interior looks like every other Mazda. And the exterior looks like, well, pretty boring. The drive will be even more underwhelming. Clearly Alexander you haven’t driven a Macan ?
Thanks Tom for this comprehensive review. I'd buy this just for the badge. I won't need all that power with the traffic around my area.
so true, with speed limits under 110kmph, you can not really use the 2.9ltr engine, so what's point of spending more money.
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Not having AEB std is criminal on a family SUV
Wow, the ownership costs actually really suck.
Economy and servicing is pretty awful.
But, the badge.....
They aren't trying to be competitive. You either stump up or look elsewhere. This brand is for those whom money is no object.
Trying to "stretch to a Porsche" is pointless. With regard to price, "the only way is up! (baby, for you and me now)"
It's a porsche thou not a Toyota ha ha
For daily driving on public roads with speed limits, I'd say the base engine is fine and you won't think very much about the 6 cyl.
Great review Tom! I’ve had my 2L (Gen2 as I preferred real buttons) since Nov and as a daily it works a treat. The Gen3 wait times for any engine were too long and stepping up from a mk7 Golf R, I enjoy the shared engine characteristics (albeit distant) but in a much more plush and refined package. The 2.9 is an amazing engine, but with similar options and on roads the price difference was too large to justify!
Also the 3/4 Apple car play view does gets a bit of grief but in reality it works really well. With
the small widget panel the left being configurable you just swipe up/down giving you the different views. You can have CarPlay app running maps, and listen to the radio widget or the other way round, Spotify on the CarPlay and maps in the widget screen.
Tom, we like Ponch reviewing base models - that’s his. Balanced by the occasional supercar reviews to aide Ponch’s perspective and generally keeping it real!
Everybody does a bit of everything here.
I guess you buy into this for the badge mostly. Like a dressed up T-Roc R?
“Base model” but has $10,000 of options… imagine having to pay extra for seat heaters!
Loving the energy on this one, Tom. Good stuff mate.
Yes, it is a Porsche, however it’s not only the engine that give me VW vibes. The headrests and many of the materials in the vehicle look eerily similar to my VW Passat.
Great review as always Tom. But I think you should've tested the macan T instead. It comes standard with pasm(adaptive dampers),20 inch S wheels, sports chrono package,quad exhaust,gts sports seats,heated front seats,pdls headlights and more. It retails for about $91K plus on road costs.
That wasn’t possible. The Macan T was only unveiled a couple of weeks ago and won’t be released in Australia until mid-year - and this was intended to be a review of the cheapest Macan.
@@chasingcars ok. Wasn't aware of that. Cheers.
The Macan T doesn’t really make much sense. Why would you want Sport Chrono and 18 way Sport seats on the base… The base has always been made for mums taking their kids to school who want the Porsche badge. The T is just a way for salesmen to upsell your typical base customer.
Your missing the point which was to test the base modal🙃
Let me guess: you bought a crossover SUV to have a sportscar track experience? Sounds delusional to think the S and GTS will regularly give you pleasure on ordinary roads.
Great review. Only thing I will say, and will probably get some hate for this. But it doesn’t surprise me AEB and adaptive cruise isn’t standard and you have to pay extra. These European cars are such a rip off compared to the Japanese or Korean equivalent. Which would have it as standard.
Porsche know how to rape you with massively overpriced features. More badge wankery.
Totally agree. I used to love Porsche, but they’ve become overpriced poverty pack specials and just aren’t worth the money, except for a 911. A “base” model Korean car has way more features and 95% of the people driving them would notice the difference in “performance” on public roads with speed cameras everywhere. Even the base model Porsche should have AEB and adaptive cruise.
Agree, AEB standard on a base model corolla
Handling is not great on Japanese and Korean. Comfort and infotainment, maybe.
@@jayp398 Most people find standard technology more important than the way a car handles. Especially in the SUV category.
Good review. Thanks for your honesty.
Let me tell you why ppl choose base model. It is for some one already has a powerful car and this is the secondary car for the family, especially for wife to drive around dropping kids off.
what's a porsch ? something you sit on and sip tea ?
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Thanks Tom! In your S review, you said “you don’t need air suspension”. However in this one you said air suspension is the way you’d go. Could you elaborate a bit more please?
You don’t need it, precisely, because the ride is quite good on this car’s fixed dampers - but the air suspension elevates the ride from good to great. No bad options here.
Chonkalicious! Expanding my vocab, nice one Mr Baker.
Thanks Tom good review, but Android Auto is still not available on Macan.
Great review as usual, keen to see you doing a comparison of Q5 sportsback, Tiguan R (When it comes) and Macan. would be great video if you do back to back reviews.
Base model?! I’m surprised you didn’t assign this review to John. He must be busy reviewing a new Yaris or a Honda City.
You must have missed John’s recent work on the top-spec Prado, 3008, and Audi e-tron GT.
I found it funny
🤣🤣🤣 ha ha
God review Tom. A minor point. When you give boot capacity, can you add additional capacity with the sears down. Cheers.👍🏼
ok that soccer ball test was cool forget the car - love the soccer ball test.
A Porsche is not for value for money shoppers, which is what I am. I bought the Mazda CX-5 Signature with 2.5 ltr turbo engine. The Mazda weighs about 300 kg less so the acceleration is better, than 2.0 ltr Porsche, plus it has a good bit more torque. If you swap out the factory tires for something better, like the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 and up the size a bit to 245/50-19, the difference in handling and all other aspects is dramatic. This is exactly what I did. The quality and driving experience of the Mazda is very high and it comes with every worthwhile and important feature for about 20K less than the Porsche. It is very close to the Porsche in driving fun. But you don't get the Porsche emblem or the very high cost of ownership.
Mazda is Mazda and Porsche is Porsche and end of the story . When you talk about Mazda, talk about Honda , Toyota and Nissan 😂
My girlfriend just ordered the new Macan T it should be here around September I am really excited to get my hands on it and steal it from her on daily basis.😂
Wow she must be pretty rich
@@tldrinfographics5769 😂 she is doing alright for herself.
@@ANDRE_675 Excuse me Sir. What do you for living?
@@tldrinfographics5769 I don’t wanna disclose that on You Tube there is no need for it.
Porsche doesn't offer Android Auto support on any Macan models yet. Also this car comes stock with 8 way seats and 14 way is an upgrade.
Actually, 14-way seats are standard in Australia.
@@chasingcars interesting because here in the U.S. they are 8 way.
No Android Auto was a deal breaker for me. I'm not going to drop my very expensive Android smartphone and buy an Apple so it can be used in a Porsche.
@@robertdevoy3119 yeah for sure agreed with you. They might bring it to the Macan when the ev version releases, but idk
20 grand more for a leaky engine that is barely faster and slightly less fun to drive? Got the base.
I drove the base and it seems fast enough to me.
Great Review Tom!! Is the throttle still “doughy” in low rpm’s in Sport Mode? Also, is this the new ZF PDK?
Love the new baby seat segment - may be worth buying a pram for the boot segment! Most boot spaces don’t really fit prams that’s well (medium suv) and there’s little room for much else. Good wrap as well.
curious about engine power but you didn't show it here. you'd better to show more driving test showing how powerful, how fast, and etc
Like you said definitely worth spending the extra money on the S.
Povo Pack do whatever you can to stretch to the S
Does the center console instrument stack provide haptic(vibrating) feedback, audible feedback, or both?
Beg borrow or steal the extra 20k
This or upcoming Cupra Formentor? I'd probably go the Cupra....
so it’s not 84.8 is it. put up a table of actual costs state by state. please. 🙂
Loved the review
0:16 - Location please
Showrooms are full of demo vehicles, what is the wait time to get one?
Feck it ……buy a CX5 turbo diesel and be happy …….😁👍
"buy a CX5 turbo petrol and be happy" (fixed it for you as Mazda haven't sorted how to scrub the diesel exhaust gases without killing their motors)
The turb pet makes stout torque, is tuned for efficiency rather than power, is kinder to your family's lungs and won't disintegrate at 100000km.
When you talk about a Porsche, you don't start your phrase with "This is the cheapest...", even if it's a fact!
I don't think it has Android auto
Genesis GV60?
Where can you buy this in Australia?
any extended service plan you can pre purchase? 3 yr is bit short nowadays
You can’t purchase a plan unfortunately.
Hi Tom, in Germany the "cheapest" model yuo can buy is the 718, not the Macan. Greetings from bavaria.
I keep mouthing Por-SHA ! 😊 Wouldn’t this be Porsche’s Tiguan, more than the Golf?
No relation in the platform to either Golf or Tiguan - the point is that the EA888 engine is available in everything from a Polo to the Macan within the Group.
But does it “drive like a porche”?
That question was really skirted around, despite being asked constantly at the beginning of the video
Or did it miss it
You missed it. The ride and handling - and steering - all got due credit, as did the extensive changes to the MLB platform
Porsches depreciate like crazy, so you can get a pretty good one with a lot of life in it - if you don't mind buying a slightly used one. You can even get one with extra options, and it will still be a fraction of the cost of the least expensive, new base model. Macan is still new enough I don't think the depreciation has fully kicked in, but give it time...
Just what do you suggest depreciates less than a Macan ? Checked any used pricing of older ones - after all they were released back in 2014 ?
@@mheeler My '09 Cayenne GTS was $17k w/ 80k miles - while used Macans are still $30k+. Since I tend to drive cars to 300k miles, there's a lot of life left - and $17k is a fraction of the original $84k that it cost in '09 (I have the original sticker with the papers). Still, $30k is a a third the cost of a $90k new Macan, and my Cayenne is 5 years older - so probably fits on the same depreciation curve. Don't know if the percentage is different from other cars - but when you can get a Porsche (or other high end SUV) with lots of options for $17k, or a "plain vanilla" SUV of same age and miles for $8k, then what you get for the price differential starts to look pretty good.
Just make sure you buy low mileage from a Porsche dealer and buy the extended warranty too.
I’m currently very tempted to trade my 2020 A7 for the Macan S! Any thoughts?
There is no such a thing as a Macan Turbo S.
@@ANDRE_675 I meant a Mecan s
What else would you suggest as a better alternative?
Macan S - other alternatives worth a look include X3 30d, XC60 B6… or a wagon like an S4 Avant
Octavia RS wagon.
Glorified golf r ?
Test drove this and frankly was disappointed. Yes it looks like a Porsche but that is about it. Imagine if you had a Porsche body over a Volvo S6 4 cylinder Turbo engine - that's what this is. All style and no substance. Spend the extra and get the GTS if you are buying a Porsche.
They don't want an ambiguous metric for the trunk space....they want a practical real world metric....so they fill it up with soccer balls?!?
You’re putting words in our mouth. We said we want a measure of our own that we can transfer from car to car - not just a made up literage figure that never seems consistent. Nor are suitcases - everybody has different sizes! Balls are the right way to go.
wait? but android auto doesn't work on the macan.
Excited to watch let's gooo
In a world where petrol is more than $2 a litre, no way would I spend 20k on an engine that would drink more. I am definitely looking into the hybrid or electric motor vehicles now, with the sudden increase in cost of living.
As stated in the video, the 2.9TTV6 actually doesn’t drink any more in the real world. We have tested both and got the same efficiency.
Wow, no AEB!
Hello Mr. Chasing Cars. With respect to the German language, it's pronounced and sounds like "POR SHA", not "porsh".
In Indonesia, it’s 200K😒
Brought to you by Porsche, he sounds like a posh salesman
Including the bit where I say not to buy this variant? Strange thing for a paid salesperson to say! We are a fully independent publication that does not take advertising from car manufacturers. Thanks
Almost $5000 for servicing. They're taking their owners for a ride.
$5k?
@@daweigo6851 $4820 quoted for five years. That's a lot of money to change the oil a few times.
@@Secretlyanothername it is!
It’s pronounced ‘Por-shuh’
It’s a very soft brush off the e - not a syllable in itself.
Great Car
i just have exactly such a Macan. I cannot complain în general but I was thinking Porsche name would make me feel a little different than driving other cars. Not impressed at all. Clearly the producer was not focused on user but probably on other tehnical aspects. There are cars, for ex. Volvo XC60 , where all what you need is going natural în your hand. Every thing is at the right place. Not with Macan where the heating of the steering wheel was discovered by me after some time hidden under the steering wheel, maybe Porsche saved some paint instead to put a visible sign. The console space is accesibile by turning back not easy during drivinig. Mirrors and visibility is not the best. For viewing camera it is possible only by going to rear ! Of course you cannot drive in rear always when you need a camera view. Not to mention that camera view when the car is presented at 90 degrees position to driving direction ! Thus many unnatural things. This is why I said Porsche was not making the car for people.
În addition the interior is obsolete even if the quality is not so bad. It is clear Porsche didn't invested în this facelift even if the price was kept high. Conclusion: it is better to look from outside than to drive it. It means I can have the badge visible to other people but not to enjoy myself. If I ignore all these I can say the car is Ok. The review was very good , I just added some from my recent experience. Just to mention I took Macan being the only car available in stock în these curios times.
No, you are driving a 94K price point, not a 84K. Massively overpriced.
Not really, given the options were cosmetic.
2019 2.0L Macan is still selling 90k+ in NSW :S
Wow!
$100K for a super small basic Porsche CUV? Omfg. And the $2K for the Bose is laughable.
wish people would pronounce Porsche correctly
Bet they sell out quickly
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Poor value.
I’d disagree if you’re someone who cares about driving dynamics. If you just want a luxurious small suv or you’re just buying for a badge, then yes it’s overpriced. But it drives so much better and feels far superior if you love driving and the feel of driving than any competitor.
You have no idea 😂better buy Toyota Prius 😅
You are an aussie, you must be able to spell macan properly :-P
the interior looks cheap and dated, I'd rather buy a full option cx60 and save 30k 😆😆
The CX60 interior looks like every other Mazda. And the exterior looks like, well, pretty boring. The drive will be even more underwhelming. Clearly Alexander you haven’t driven a Macan ?
😂😂😂😂Mazda 😂😂😂😂😂
The S seems like a bargain itself.
I think it is - relatively speaking. That 2.9 is much more expensive in other vehicles that it appears in.
Jesus, learn how to pronounce the word…it’s pawsh-a not pawsh. Speak to a German for gods sake
I think you’re confused - the ‘eh’ after Porsche is very soft, and certainly not Porsha