I agree. I just joined to build the largest windmill in the world. Everything is over oversize. Safety is paramount, then production time. I am pretty awestruck.
@@plurplursen7172 He we went to the moon...... and look what instruments they have in the medical world..... far more complicated than a wind turbine...
@@johnvanvliet2076 You are not an astronaut or a doctor, and you don't know anything about windmills. 1 mill can harvest 10 millions watt. Perspective is really a bitch.
Very good design and business model. The direct-drive synchronous generator is a proven technology and you have built a great project around it. Thanks for sharing this video.
The turbines you see in this video are asynchronous generators. That was before direct drive was cool and every manufacturer started building synchronous generators. Sadly Enercon had to change to this design too. Their newer models don’t look good anymore.
In reply to those saying the generator is inefficient, should have used permanent magnets. The first problem is that it would be incredibly expensive to use neodymium magnets of that size. Second is that permanent magnets obviously have a fixed field strength. This means less control over the output of the generator. Possibly resulting in it being operated inefficiently at certain wind speeds. Another issue is that neodymium magnets are highly susceptible to serious corrosion. Coatings help prevent this but on something that is moving most of the time this could fail over the years. In the end why get too obsessed by efficiency when the fuel source is free. What matters more is reliability and its ability to continue giving an output during high wind speeds.
In all the reliability is low. It has very low output and costs a fortune to maintain. Also it uses some of the most hazardous materials to make. And serious energy to produce. So a blade might cost us a year in energy just to make? Real efficient.
It depends on the location but in the right place a wind turbine soon pays off the energy used to make it. You are correct about the use of materials but wind is an important part of the renewables mix for the moment anyway. What a lot of people forget is that energy efficiency is the number one priority. Reduce the demand and we don't have to build as much of everything.
In theory the generator could be made with super conductors and kept an some stupid cold temperature requiring most of the turbines output. Or what works so much better in the real world is to accept that it will never be very efficient but its far simpler and works sufficiently for our needs at the moment.
Addressing some points in the comments: Industrial sized wind turbines with a service life of around 20-25 years tend to pay for themselves in a few years or so, depending on local schemes, wind speeds, generation rates etc, and the costs are shrinking globally at an unprecedented rate as experience is gained and designs refined. Energy from solar and wind is abundant, it won't run out like fossil fuels and nuclear materials will and we can use as much as we want, so in that respect it is 'free' as in 'free to use as we please', extracting it, converting it into a useful form and transporting it is not free and will always come at a cost. Within 5 years, renewable energy coupled with storage systems are going to be cheaper and cleaner than any current generation method, all the while addressing the climate issue. Did you know the global fossil fuel industry takes approximately $5 Trillion in subsidies annually? That's your taxes they are taking with one hand and astronomic bills for the energy you use with the other, bills that fluctuate depending on what another country happens to be doing at the time. Wind energy is on the brink of being completely subsidy free in some countries and cheaper than any other method of generation, not to mention more nationally and defensively secure. Can you imagine how much electricity we could produce with renewables for $5 Tn a year and what we could do with that electricity?
@@Glenn631956 Source please! Last time I checked on shore wind turbines, at least in Germany, operate at market prices. When you look at levelized cost onshore wind is currently cheaper than nuclear, coal and gas.
Love the concept of Enercon turbines. It's a shame that they aren't in the offshore market. Would have been cool seeing a 12MW+ turbine from them. Direct drive turbines are an amazing concept and hopefully it will become dominant .
But it does NOT address the issue, this is just the engineering aspect of a product, that is all. I was in the High Arctic and they installed a ugly windmill, it broke down...... back to a generator plant....
John Van Vliet Enerconn exists since a long time and they have a lot of experience, also with espionage from the US that almost killed them. They started when energy companies laughed about wind energy,, in 1984. they really deserve to be among the best worldwide.
@@AndreasDelleske I am not disputing the eng Firm but the policy of the Government if they want a good source of energy use nuclear power far more reliable and cheaper the turbine energy, and it does not kills thousand of birds every year or is unsafe.....for humans
"Enercon MPU"... is actually a Siemens Development kit board, with Winbond eeprom. the programming may be developed in-house, but that controller board is not.
I think that The so-called annular generator by Enercon. It is the multi-pole WRSG with DC exciter mounted outside the rotor shaft. This topology can be implemented without the need for a gearbox by incrementing the number of poles of the rotor. The increasing on the number of poles implies a large generator diameter as seen in the video., resulting in a machine of larger dimensions. As the machine is gearless and low speed, they are right to claim low noisy. I think that it is direct - driven annular generator. The interesting feature of this machine is the DC controllable exciter which allows the rotor flux to be controlled for various purposes such as filed weakening strategies. My question is that what Enercon think about Type 5 Variable Speed WTG system?
Enercon seem to have all the bases covered, if this excellent presentation is anything to go by. Congratulations to the teams responsible for the video and the product. One question; What is the life expectancy of a typical turbine?
there are a bunch of retired wind turbines both by mojave and near cabazon . i would think that since the towers still exist that it would be a great chance to retrofit new turbines and blades to the top of the existing towers saving hundreds of thousands of dollars of base, tower and grid installation
There was a video like this that was deleted probably because of copyright but the music used in the video was so good I just can’t remember the name :(
@Michael, do you know anyone from Enercon directly? I am interested in some potential H2020 project for a new method to manufacture wind turbine blades, so if you have any direct contact with the company please let me know.
Now I know why I just heard that Germany is eliminating all but two nuclear power plants. Those are still available as backup in case there's energy shortages.
First I thought, waaaiiiit a minute. The speaker sounds like Steve Taylor (the one from _Kurz gesagt - In a nutshell_ ). After reading the first comment I know that I'm right :D I really like Steve's smooth voice.
I also like like how the towers are painted, green gradations fading into white, helps them blend into the countryside a little better. Maybe the blades could be painted a light blue so they would less visible from a distance
1:13 7.5 Megawatts! Holy crap, that is a lot of power! I wonder how much wind it needs to reach that output? I guess it wouldn't necessarily need all that much, provided the propellor is large enough. Just a thought...if you had field of these, I wonder if you could run them in reverse as motors and produce enough wind to change the weather? :-)
شكرا على الروبرتاج _ و التقنيات المتطورة في مجال الطاقة لماذا لا يتم دمج قوة الرياح و الطاقة الشمسية في نفس الطاحونة ؟ أرى أنكم تزيلون الأشجار المحيطة بالغابة لتركيب الطواحين
ok, no gearbox and only two bearing, semplified electrical part, high efficiency... but how they do to guarantee electrical output at mains frequency? they must have a lot of inverters or there are other solutions?
NO PODREMOS UTILIZAR LA GUITA QUE HAN HECHO ALGUNOS SINDICALISTAS CON LOS OBREROS Y PONER UNO DE ESTOS VENTILADORES PARA PRODUCIR ALGO AUNQUE SEA A NOMBRE DEL SINDICATO O DEL CAPO - CAPO...!!??
je suis Roger Dontsop Dongmo , Manager de la Société BRICKETT SARL ENERGY And OFFSHORE au Cameroun. En réponse à ceux qui disent que le générateur est inefficace, aurait dû utiliser des aimants permanents. Le premier problème est qu’il serait extrêmement coûteux d’utiliser des aimants en néodyme de cette taille. Deuxièmement, les aimants permanents ont évidemment une intensité de champ fixe. Cela signifie moins de contrôle sur la sortie du générateur. Cela pourrait entraîner un fonctionnement inefficace à certaines vitesses de vent. Un autre problème est que les aimants au néodyme sont très sensibles à la corrosion. Les revêtements aident à empêcher cela, mais ils pourraient échouer au fil des ans sur quelque chose qui bouge la plupart du temps. En fin de compte, pourquoi être trop obsédé par l’efficacité lorsque la source de carburant est gratuite. Ce qui compte le plus, c’est la fiabilité et sa capacité à continuer à fournir un rendement par vent fort.
I wonder what all is electronics would do where the high-altitude electromagnetic pulse bomb boom just one takes out all the power generation first several hundred miles and burn up all of those electronic controls. I hope it has some kind of automatic manual shutdown
Hector Rodriguez Hola Hector. Por la zona de Tarifa (España) hay montado cientos de aerogeneradores y creo recordar que llevan montado mas dectreita años y siguen funcionando.
i agree the core could be more efficient as it takes energy to excite the field when you can easily replace that with a magnet, at least its direct drive though :)
+GeoStreber your argument doesn't make sense. once you harvest and manufacture the magnets you're done. no need to create more every month or so for the same generator. they'll last for decades. so your argument is null and void.
Jesse Fritz the question is: Is the energy required to produce the Neodymium needed for permanent magnets more than the energy to operate the electromagnets. I'm not sure about that since the operating time of an average turbine is about 20 years. You don't know how hard it is to seperate rare earth elements, do you? They're chemically almost identical du to their almost identical ion radii and reduction potentials.
the energy saving through the lifetime of the generator would generate several times the energy needed to extract and deploy the rare earth magnets in the generator its self.
Call the best tree climbing company and have them put a wind mill at the top of your tallest tree and run a wire down to your batteries and attatch a 15k inverter.or whatever it takes to run the stove
the insides of German factories are always spotless, looks like you could eat off the floor! Whether it's BMW or Enercon they are all so clean.
Enercon is the best! I love the shape of the blades, nacelle and green towers :)
Clean energy for the world. Thank you ENERCON to keep the environment clean.
Can't believe this is all possible. All the coordination of resources and human work involved from start to finish is unfathomable. Thank you
I agree. I just joined to build the largest windmill in the world. Everything is over oversize. Safety is paramount, then production time. I am pretty awestruck.
@@plurplursen7172 He we went to the moon...... and look what instruments they have in the medical world..... far more complicated than a wind turbine...
@@johnvanvliet2076 You are not an astronaut or a doctor, and you don't know anything about windmills. 1 mill can harvest 10 millions watt. Perspective is really a bitch.
Enercon is my favorite wind turbine company.
Very good design and business model. The direct-drive synchronous generator is a proven technology and you have built a great project around it. Thanks for sharing this video.
@jeff13151 Wish I could afford one.
The turbines you see in this video are asynchronous generators. That was before direct drive was cool and every manufacturer started building synchronous generators. Sadly Enercon had to change to this design too. Their newer models don’t look good anymore.
I like the fact that you do so much manufacturing in house, that seems to be a thing of the past these days.
I've been up Vestas, Gamesa and G.E wind turbines and this takes the cake.
In reply to those saying the generator is inefficient, should have used permanent magnets.
The first problem is that it would be incredibly expensive to use neodymium magnets of that size.
Second is that permanent magnets obviously have a fixed field strength. This means less control over the output of the generator. Possibly resulting in it being operated inefficiently at certain wind speeds.
Another issue is that neodymium magnets are highly susceptible to serious corrosion. Coatings help prevent this but on something that is moving most of the time this could fail over the years.
In the end why get too obsessed by efficiency when the fuel source is free. What matters more is reliability and its ability to continue giving an output during high wind speeds.
In all the reliability is low. It has very low output and costs a fortune to maintain. Also it uses some of the most hazardous materials to make. And serious energy to produce. So a blade might cost us a year in energy just to make? Real efficient.
You should focus on solar energy. Or thermal energy. both already have unlimited energy and are less invasive and also less expensive.
It depends on the location but in the right place a wind turbine soon pays off the energy used to make it. You are correct about the use of materials but wind is an important part of the renewables mix for the moment anyway. What a lot of people forget is that energy efficiency is the number one priority. Reduce the demand and we don't have to build as much of everything.
I'm not talking about rare earth's. I'm talking about a total redesigned gen head. these types of heads are stupid inefficient.
In theory the generator could be made with super conductors and kept an some stupid cold temperature requiring most of the turbines output. Or what works so much better in the real world is to accept that it will never be very efficient but its far simpler and works sufficiently for our needs at the moment.
That gearless generator is awesome.
its the best.
Addressing some points in the comments:
Industrial sized wind turbines with a service life of around 20-25 years tend to pay for themselves in a few years or so, depending on local schemes, wind speeds, generation rates etc, and the costs are shrinking globally at an unprecedented rate as experience is gained and designs refined. Energy from solar and wind is abundant, it won't run out like fossil fuels and nuclear materials will and we can use as much as we want, so in that respect it is 'free' as in 'free to use as we please', extracting it, converting it into a useful form and transporting it is not free and will always come at a cost. Within 5 years, renewable energy coupled with storage systems are going to be cheaper and cleaner than any current generation method, all the while addressing the climate issue.
Did you know the global fossil fuel industry takes approximately $5 Trillion in subsidies annually? That's your taxes they are taking with one hand and astronomic bills for the energy you use with the other, bills that fluctuate depending on what another country happens to be doing at the time. Wind energy is on the brink of being completely subsidy free in some countries and cheaper than any other method of generation, not to mention more nationally and defensively secure.
Can you imagine how much electricity we could produce with renewables for $5 Tn a year and what we could do with that electricity?
NEWS FLASH wind turbines are 50% gov. subsidized
@@Glenn631956
Source please!
Last time I checked on shore wind turbines, at least in Germany, operate at market prices.
When you look at levelized cost onshore wind is currently cheaper than nuclear, coal and gas.
For anyone wondering, the E82, the biggest one Enercon manufactures, is roughly $3.1 Million and has a power output of 2-3 MW.
They are going upto E-161 5+mw soon. E-82s are old news
Love the concept of Enercon turbines. It's a shame that they aren't in the offshore market. Would have been cool seeing a 12MW+ turbine from them. Direct drive turbines are an amazing concept and hopefully it will become dominant .
Wait till the 20, 30, & 50 MW of china state shipbuilding corporation to appear by 2050
Just like the factories 🏭 of the past, hiring it’s own Citizens! What a professional grade operation!
Fico emocionado ver esse video, que maravilha feita pelo homem!, gostaria de ter a oportunidade de trabalhar nessa empresa a Enercon
Wonderful presentation by enercon......👌👌👌
This must be German made! One of the must in depth documentary I have ever seen. I company to be prowl to employed by.
TAP5430 Yes, they are located in the north of Germany. Headquarter is in the city called Aurich.
But it does NOT address the issue, this is just the engineering aspect of a product, that is all. I was in the High Arctic and they installed a ugly windmill, it broke down...... back to a generator plant....
John Van Vliet Enerconn exists since a long time and they have a lot of experience, also with espionage from the US that almost killed them.
They started when energy companies laughed about wind energy,, in 1984. they really deserve to be among the best worldwide.
@@AndreasDelleske I am not disputing the eng Firm but the policy of the Government if they want a good source of energy use nuclear power far more reliable and cheaper the turbine energy, and it does not kills thousand of birds every year or is unsafe.....for humans
@@johnvanvliet2076
Until you factor in waste disposal/storage.
"Enercon MPU"... is actually a Siemens Development kit board, with Winbond eeprom.
the programming may be developed in-house, but that controller board is not.
I think that The so-called annular generator by Enercon. It is the multi-pole WRSG with DC exciter mounted outside the rotor shaft. This topology can be implemented without the need for a gearbox by incrementing the number of poles of the rotor. The increasing on the number of poles implies a large generator diameter as seen in the video., resulting in a machine of larger dimensions. As the machine is gearless and low speed, they are right to claim low noisy. I think that it is direct - driven annular generator. The interesting feature of this machine is the DC controllable exciter which allows the rotor flux to be controlled for various purposes such as filed weakening strategies. My question is that what Enercon think about Type 5 Variable Speed WTG system?
Enercon seem to have all the bases covered, if this excellent presentation is anything to go by. Congratulations to the teams responsible for the video and the product. One question; What is the life expectancy of a typical turbine?
Older Wind Turbines last for about 20 Years. Newer ones are designed to last for 30 years.
mm,,,mmmmmJohn Bentommmmm
hola
David Cando, you are a pervert. I like your style duckie! Meet you round the back of the bike sheds as usual?
John Benton
Yes? Was there something Savvas?
there are a bunch of retired wind turbines both by mojave and near cabazon . i would think that since the towers still exist that it would be a great chance to retrofit new turbines and blades to the top of the existing towers saving hundreds of thousands of dollars of base, tower and grid installation
Excellent presentation by Enercon Turbines, only hoping that all that is said in the video is true.
Honestly, Enercon is good company. Wind turbine is of excellent quality.
Since this video, more new models have been added to Enercon's arsenal.
I love seeing the comment, Free energy. Nothing free about these. Must cost millions just for one turbine.
rdmanone f
Free energy means coal and petroleum free
I enjoyed this video. I get my electricity from Good Energy, so *probably* some of that is from your turbines! Thank you.
Waooo nice information
There was a video like this that was deleted probably because of copyright but the music used in the video was so good I just can’t remember the name :(
So many experts here!
very good keep it up form barbados wi
Who saw the size of those IGBT's ! Huge !
My neighbor has a ceiling fan.
Energy efficient I hope, does it run from a solar panel.....lol
Background score is "Bach - Air on G String"
Thank you Shazam had nothing.
waw its the most amazing things that i see just . you are the best one . keep it up
bella ditta molto professionale complimenti !!
that was so beautiful I love that free energy is the way to go
Muy bueno e impresionante. Felicitaciones.
nice work
@Michael, do you know anyone from Enercon directly? I am interested in some potential H2020 project for a new method to manufacture wind turbine blades, so if you have any direct contact with the company please let me know.
Very enlightening !
Now I know why I just heard that Germany is eliminating all but two nuclear power plants. Those are still available as backup in case there's energy shortages.
Very Very Good Work
Gear less is easily done. It should be mainstream. Simply add or remove segments to adjust to energy received.
Terimakasih telah memberi pengalaman yang baru
Ich habe eine gute Idee, die Vorteile des schnellen Windes zu nehmen, ohne den Winkel der Flügel zu ändern und ohne den Einsatz von Getrieben
I💝ENERCON WIND TURBINE...👌
It is very interesting how wind energy is growing but hollow concrete pillar may reduce cost .
Masum Anwar they’re switching to steel already for most of the tower.
The cows like the turbines.
First I thought, waaaiiiit a minute. The speaker sounds like Steve
Taylor (the one from _Kurz gesagt - In a nutshell_ ). After reading the
first comment I know that I'm right :D
I really like Steve's smooth voice.
My question is why do all the wind turbines leak oil after less than a year after being installed?
I also like like how the towers are painted, green gradations fading into white, helps them blend into the countryside a little better. Maybe the blades could be painted a light blue so they would less visible from a distance
lp
1:13 7.5 Megawatts! Holy crap, that is a lot of power! I wonder how much wind it needs to reach that output? I guess it wouldn't necessarily need all that much, provided the propellor is large enough. Just a thought...if you had field of these, I wonder if you could run them in reverse as motors and produce enough wind to change the weather? :-)
From GE (former wind business from Alstom) there is now a 12 MW offshore turbine available.
KURZGESAGT
(just in case you recognize the voice)
Indeed, dont even know why iam here but now i know xD
You are complete right!!! my brain could not get it at first glance, but it is true!!! :D
I am Veary like Alternetor
The voice is Steve Taylor
Is this the same narrator that does Kurzgesagt videos?
شكرا على الروبرتاج _ و التقنيات المتطورة في مجال الطاقة
لماذا لا يتم دمج قوة الرياح و الطاقة الشمسية في نفس الطاحونة ؟
أرى أنكم تزيلون الأشجار المحيطة بالغابة لتركيب الطواحين
BEST PRODUCT THAN OTHERS
I have a good idea to take advantage of the fast wind without changing the angle of the wings and without the use of gears
Energy con sounds trustworthy
sao ko cho tubin nam o duoi dat ,lam truc chuyen dong xuong ,va canh quat ko bi nang nua .
ok, no gearbox and only two bearing, semplified electrical part, high efficiency... but how they do to guarantee electrical output at mains frequency? they must have a lot of inverters or there are other solutions?
It is best,very very good
Menor peso na nacele, good idea!
I'm ready to buy one where do I sign up
NO PODREMOS UTILIZAR LA GUITA QUE HAN HECHO ALGUNOS SINDICALISTAS CON LOS OBREROS Y PONER UNO DE ESTOS VENTILADORES PARA PRODUCIR ALGO AUNQUE SEA A NOMBRE DEL SINDICATO O DEL CAPO - CAPO...!!??
Are the Rings that they are rolling Annealed after Cold Rolling ?
je suis Roger Dontsop Dongmo , Manager de la Société BRICKETT SARL ENERGY And OFFSHORE au Cameroun.
En réponse à ceux qui disent que le générateur est inefficace, aurait dû utiliser des aimants permanents.
Le premier problème est qu’il serait extrêmement coûteux d’utiliser des aimants en néodyme de cette taille.
Deuxièmement, les aimants permanents ont évidemment une intensité de champ fixe. Cela signifie moins de contrôle sur la sortie du générateur. Cela pourrait entraîner un fonctionnement inefficace à certaines vitesses de vent.
Un autre problème est que les aimants au néodyme sont très sensibles à la corrosion. Les revêtements aident à empêcher cela, mais ils pourraient échouer au fil des ans sur quelque chose qui bouge la plupart du temps.
En fin de compte, pourquoi être trop obsédé par l’efficacité lorsque la source de carburant est gratuite. Ce qui compte le plus, c’est la fiabilité et sa capacité à continuer à fournir un rendement par vent fort.
I 💕 Love 💖 Enercon
I have working now enercon E30 and E48 E40 turbines in chitradurga karnataka 🇮🇳 India
Yep, I'm convinced!
abandoned wind farms filled with decay have given way to solar fields
Good wind turbine
I wonder what all is electronics would do where the high-altitude electromagnetic pulse bomb boom just one takes out all the power generation first several hundred miles and burn up all of those electronic controls. I hope it has some kind of automatic manual shutdown
9:48 Enercon sticker on "Infineon" chip. I wonder who they get their IGBT's from as well...
Next level of massive
i thought the propeller will rotate faster
How to apply in jod in enercon
can one of these power up your home?
Rule of thumb is 1 MW turbine can power 600-1000 homes depending on the homes consumption
I am Visited Enercon GMBH, Germany
Cuantos años dura el generador?? Cuanto cuesta el mantenimiento??
Hector Rodriguez
Hola Hector. Por la zona de Tarifa (España) hay montado cientos de aerogeneradores y creo recordar que llevan montado mas dectreita años y siguen funcionando.
Just studying for the AP Lang test...
good tehnologi turbbin enercon
i agree the core could be more efficient as it takes energy to excite the field when you can easily replace that with a magnet, at least its direct drive though :)
Yup, would make it more efficient.
Yes but it would take a lot of energy to produce the magnets, since it's hard to seperate the rare earth elements needed.
+GeoStreber your argument doesn't make sense. once you harvest and manufacture the magnets you're done. no need to create more every month or so for the same generator. they'll last for decades. so your argument is null and void.
Jesse Fritz the question is: Is the energy required to produce the Neodymium needed for permanent magnets more than the energy to operate the electromagnets. I'm not sure about that since the operating time of an average turbine is about 20 years. You don't know how hard it is to seperate rare earth elements, do you? They're chemically almost identical du to their almost identical ion radii and reduction potentials.
the energy saving through the lifetime of the generator would generate several times the energy needed to extract and deploy the rare earth magnets in the generator its self.
amazing
The electronics look rather old. I hope they have an eye on obsolescence.
Do you offer any jobs in Australia?
I want this video in HD
any one can help
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WIll this fit on my chimney'?
Call the best tree climbing company and have them put a wind mill at the top of your tallest tree and run a wire down to your batteries and attatch a 15k inverter.or whatever it takes to run the stove
Ener-CON. Says it all.
Can I get any job here ?
Hello sir
How to make Enercon Wind Turbines in jammu and kashmir
Wery good ! :)
Bravo.. !
E litlle .. better blades ... ! ;)
Regards PP. ;)
Amazing
India Gujarat .jam nagar samana.side my village. Best wind .enarcon.
great to see
Just wish to be part of these top notch engineering team one day 😍 Are you pple recruiting ...
yes always 💲👨💻come & ring us you can start in management 1st & work your way down to 200 feet maintenance work haa🤪👉🐨👍
noone wears helmet in production yard?
What kind of clown actually thinks that noone is a word.
@@telkentexas4053
The same kind who omits the question mark, maybe?
Wonderfull!
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anyone know the Bach air music at beginning?
Yup, look up Klazz Brothers & Cuba percussion - Classic meets Cuba. That song also featured on the soundtrack to Collateral