How long does it take to recover the cost, what is the yearly maintenance cost and how are these huge structures recycled/reused/repurposed when they have reached their useable lifetime?
They never recover the cost is the short answer. The long answer is way more complex but in short normal people get screwed over while the wealthy get wealthier.
Actually no, they were neither bolts nor screws. The men threaded in 30mm threaded bars. Because no head was on the top, they were not screws. Because there was no shank or head they were definitely not bolts. Bolts have a shank and a threaded section, screws are threaded virtually all the way to the head.
@@JonDingleHowever, I know what part you are talking about. I’m not sure they called those threaded bars “screws” though. I guess it doesn’t really matter anyway. I realize it’s being translated from German. Then again, the translator/narrator sounds like a native North American English speaker, and perhaps he should have known better.
@2:30 Each weighing around a tonne! Check this error! I would guess 30 tonnes. What is the break-even time for a wind turbine? Why can't they abseil down? Very impressive engineering all round.
A windturbine weight between 240 tonnes and 303 tonnes. In addition to the wind turbine itself, around 750 tons of concrete and 40 tons of steel and iron are added to the wind turbine's foundation. That means they weight atleast one thousand tonnes. Your 30 tonnes are not even the blades wich weight atleast 11 tonnes each...
@@hobbelundahl6249 I meant 30 tons for each section of the ring. However, much it weighs in total is an incredible amount of material, and in my view, a waste of money
@@boathemian7694 Then why is it that the places with the highest percentage of solar/wind power also have the highest electricity costs? Could it possibly be that intermittency is expensive.
47:17 Uhhh, no. Gravity shifts the rotor assembly to the vertical position and it is pulling the workers towards the tower. The workers are slowing the movement down for safety reasons. This channel has a problem comprehending simple physics.
The energy required to produce 70 tons of steel and 700 cubes of concrete per tower, also transport and installation would exceed what the turbine could produce over it's short lifespan. Nothing green about 'renewables'.
That’s not true at all Even assuming the turbine only produces power 50% of the time in a 20 year lifespan it will produce over 125,000 MWH 70 tons of steel about 350 mwh A barrel of oil about 1.7 mwh and 0.4 barrels per yard of concrete. Thats about 500 mwh Materials are under 1,000 MWH. You are still up over 124,000 MWH So many variables to these numbers but you aren’t even close. These numbers are only getting batter as wind turbines are constantly getting more efficient.
Wind generators will never be green energy. Alternative energy yes. What people don’t talk about is the amount of energy used to manufacture all the components, haul them out to the site, build the footings and roads to the site. Erecting the whole system. Running the wiring to the generator to get the power to where it needs to be. The service life and maintenance will never pay this off.
Amazing. I pass a wind farm every time I go to my vacation home out of Tehachapi, Ca., but I don’t think they are this big. Then again, they seem to be replacing them often, so maybe the newer ones are as big. I doubt it though. We certainly don’t have any offshore.
sad reality that the leftists cant seem to grasp. heavy industry and trucking will be dependent on hydrocarbon energy for the foreseeable future. golf carts just cant get it done. look at the current EV "trucks." only good for hauling potato chips and moving trailers around the shippjng yards. lol
It's not the diesel fuel that is the real problem. It is the effects of mining and material processing that has to occur on a vast scale to get all of the materials needed for renewable energy to work. Then it is claimed in pure hypocrisy that nuclear power produces too much waste and that uranium mining has too much impact.
I fail to see how they can pay for themselves in the amount of electricity they generate. Obviously, erecting them is not the final stage; they all have to be connected and the cables run to the grid.
I understand that the bigest turbines can power an average home for a day with one rotation of the blades. I am invested in a medium size wind farm in Scotland. 8 turbines and 6500 investors. Some are business and hotels. It’s just waiting for the grid connection and testing.
I think something is wrong, classic wind turbines haven't done anything, let's please have something new : a vertical axis wind turbine (spinning like a carousel) this wind turbine would look exactly like a tree, I call it : e-tree, the trunk of the e-tree is brown, the spinning sails (blades) are green, and finally attached to the trunk of the e-tree are features of : wifi/mobile network, light and power outlet, to charge a car for example
Well why don’t you ask the manufacturers, and the designers. Maybe ask a University for an. I biased opinion. When you have done that tellu what you have found.
No need for that. Almost 9000kg of resin for one blade alone, not even counting the fibers. Three blades for one turbine equals almost 27000kg of epoxy resin and there is no way that can be recycled. In 20 years that is pure waste. Sometimes is just obvious that numbers aren't adding up. This isn't environmentally friendly. There is so much more negative about them. The enormous noise pollution are making hundreds of thousands people ill. Every day thousands of birds are killed by the giant blades... Just to name only two things
Because communication is so important with the crane operator, they use a time-tested method used by police around the world and have up to twenty people shouting different things at once so that there can be no misunderstanding. 😂
That’s a dimwitted lie. Alberta is the third highest wind energy producer in Canada, and has the highest percentage of installed wind generation capacity of any province. Time for you to leave. BC is always looking for twits and liars.
I like the idea use energy of wind, it is also old school, like wind mills. But use composite blades is totally unacceptable. It is not sustainable. We should use much smaller wind turbines buld with sustainable materials on top of every house. This scale of "green energy" is totally not green.
Not quite so true regarding the burials at sea not being conducted since WW II. When I was on the Midway, after our forward deployment to Japan, in 1973, we lost some aviators in an accident, and several of those were buried at sea, as opposed to being returned to the families at home.
A lot better then solar but will never match nuclear. At some point the earth will become a coil of energy. It won't be good for humans. Robots will love it.
given that "nuclear power plants" are merely huge steam baths, and plutonium only increases in value, why would you ever consider another power generation? one which pollutes, kills and is fundamentally insufficient?
I see the wind turbines being abandoned in about 15 years after the Gov't money keeping them going is cut off due to budget cuts. Similar situation occurred in the early 80s in southern California. What a waste of money!!!!
and thats the "capacity." theyre not even giving the facts about how much power is actually produced by the turbine, which is a whole lot less than the stated "capacity." misinformation galore in this video
golden eagles may soon face extinction in the US due to wind turbines. to say nothing of all the other types of eagles, hawks, owls, bats, and even insects being destroyed. just keep your head in the sand and pretend it's evironmentally friendly. and please dont cite the number of small common birds killed by housecats. Ive never seen a housecat kill an eagle.
@@asbestosfiber I would disagree with you on negative impact when it comes to long term because they kill more birds per year than pretty much anything else out there man made and the amount of energy required to manufacture and transport them has to come from somewhere and it's probably not enough to offset the amount of so called green energy since they don't produce all the time and have alot of downtime for Maintenance there were alot of people who froze to death and suffered in Texas I believe because the wind turbines froze up and couldn't produce energy and alot of the grid was transferred over to it. I would say when you take everything in it's just not to positive.
How long does it take to recover the cost, what is the yearly maintenance cost and how are these huge structures recycled/reused/repurposed when they have reached their useable lifetime?
Look up abandoned wind farm. A lot of times they just become decrepit and left alone. Kinda sad really.
They never recover the cost is the short answer. The long answer is way more complex but in short normal people get screwed over while the wealthy get wealthier.
Not sure about rest but takes one year for construction and installation money recoup and 6-12 months for carbon recoup from construction.
Wow! This is dangerous work.
I have seen this before with much more sensible commentory.
Very nice work..
Those weren’t 30 mm “screws”. They were bolts! There is a difference.
Actually no, they were neither bolts nor screws. The men threaded in 30mm threaded bars. Because no head was on the top, they were not screws. Because there was no shank or head they were definitely not bolts. Bolts have a shank and a threaded section, screws are threaded virtually all the way to the head.
@@JonDingleLook again at ~9:30. Those are bolts! With nuts.
@@JonDingleHowever, I know what part you are talking about. I’m not sure they called those threaded bars “screws” though. I guess it doesn’t really matter anyway. I realize it’s being translated from German. Then again, the translator/narrator sounds like a native North American English speaker, and perhaps he should have known better.
@JonDingle they are bolts 😂😂😂
9:34 The "BOLTS" werre left hand thread !!!
@2:30 Each weighing around a tonne! Check this error! I would guess 30 tonnes.
What is the break-even time for a wind turbine?
Why can't they abseil down?
Very impressive engineering all round.
A windturbine weight between 240 tonnes and 303 tonnes. In addition to the wind turbine itself, around 750 tons of concrete and 40 tons of steel and iron are added to the wind turbine's foundation.
That means they weight atleast one thousand tonnes.
Your 30 tonnes are not even the blades wich weight atleast 11 tonnes each...
@@hobbelundahl6249 I meant 30 tons for each section of the ring. However, much it weighs in total is an incredible amount of material, and in my view, a waste of money
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@@jamesclark4 the Vogtle plant in the USA costs 10X what a turbine costs per kilowatt hour.
@@davidanalyst671 the cognitive dissonance is really strong in the nukers
@@boathemian7694 Then why is it that the places with the highest percentage of solar/wind power also have the highest electricity costs? Could it possibly be that intermittency is expensive.
why do you repeat everything so much, is this how you make the doco so long?
47:17 Uhhh, no. Gravity shifts the rotor assembly to the vertical position and it is pulling the workers towards the tower. The workers are slowing the movement down for safety reasons. This channel has a problem comprehending simple physics.
They’re bolts not screws!
The energy required to produce 70 tons of steel and 700 cubes of concrete per tower, also transport and installation would exceed what the turbine could produce over it's short lifespan. Nothing green about 'renewables'.
That’s not true at all
Even assuming the turbine only produces power 50% of the time in a 20 year lifespan it will produce over 125,000 MWH
70 tons of steel about 350 mwh
A barrel of oil about 1.7 mwh and 0.4 barrels per yard of concrete. Thats about 500 mwh
Materials are under 1,000 MWH.
You are still up over 124,000 MWH
So many variables to these numbers but you aren’t even close. These numbers are only getting batter as wind turbines are constantly getting more efficient.
Wind generators will never be green energy. Alternative energy yes. What people don’t talk about is the amount of energy used to manufacture all the components, haul them out to the site, build the footings and roads to the site. Erecting the whole system. Running the wiring to the generator to get the power to where it needs to be. The service life and maintenance will never pay this off.
Amazing. I pass a wind farm every time I go to my vacation home out of Tehachapi, Ca., but I don’t think they are this big. Then again, they seem to be replacing them often, so maybe the newer ones are as big. I doubt it though. We certainly don’t have any offshore.
We love it big in europe. ;) :p
Most onshore turbines are at least 200-300 feet up. I work on them and they’re pretty tall 😂 the climb is humbling
Its interestyng I like
0:12 The Venus Project Jaques Fresco and Goodwill towards men...
So, why didn't we see the installation of the generating section and the attachment of the blades. Instead, they show us the blade manufacture 2X?
The background music is incredibly annoying, the video is interesting enough without music.
Ces éoliennes enrichissent essentiellement les industriels qui les fabriquent, mais bon au moins cela crée des emplois 😁😁
Great engineering but made possible by coal and oil. Once we stop mining these, I wonder how they gonna build and transport these wind turbines.
sad reality that the leftists cant seem to grasp. heavy industry and trucking will be dependent on hydrocarbon energy for the foreseeable future. golf carts just cant get it done. look at the current EV "trucks." only good for hauling potato chips and moving trailers around the shippjng yards. lol
I bet mining all the materials required with diesel is so green
It's not the diesel fuel that is the real problem. It is the effects of mining and material processing that has to occur on a vast scale to get all of the materials needed for renewable energy to work.
Then it is claimed in pure hypocrisy that nuclear power produces too much waste and that uranium mining has too much impact.
Still a lot more green over the 20-25 yr lifespan of the turbine
@@Maxpower50000 every wind farm ever has failed and been horrible for the environment and kills millions of birds
@@jamesclark4 Every coal and gas plant has failed and kills millions of birds. See I can say stuff too
@@jamesclark4 that’s a ridiculous statement
I fail to see how they can pay for themselves in the amount of electricity they generate. Obviously, erecting them is not the final stage; they all have to be connected and the cables run to the grid.
I understand that the bigest turbines can power an average home for a day with one rotation of the blades. I am invested in a medium size wind farm in Scotland. 8 turbines and 6500 investors. Some are business and hotels. It’s just waiting for the grid connection and testing.
Plus, the maintenance workers are paid big money.
this is a weapon which has been place the world in the position to shift the air pressure and create a cyclone
I think something is wrong,
classic wind turbines haven't done anything,
let's please have something new :
a vertical axis wind turbine (spinning like a carousel)
this wind turbine would look exactly like a tree, I call it : e-tree,
the trunk of the e-tree is brown, the spinning sails (blades) are green,
and finally attached to the trunk of the e-tree are features of : wifi/mobile network, light and power outlet, to charge a car for example
And what is the carbon footprint of the carbon fiber used in their construction, hardly green I wouldn't think.
Well why don’t you ask the manufacturers, and the designers. Maybe ask a University for an. I biased opinion. When you have done that tellu what you have found.
Unbiased opinion correction
No need for that. Almost 9000kg of resin for one blade alone, not even counting the fibers. Three blades for one turbine equals almost 27000kg of epoxy resin and there is no way that can be recycled. In 20 years that is pure waste. Sometimes is just obvious that numbers aren't adding up. This isn't environmentally friendly. There is so much more negative about them. The enormous noise pollution are making hundreds of thousands people ill. Every day thousands of birds are killed by the giant blades... Just to name only two things
A screw is not a bolt. A chimpanzee is not a monkey but is an ape. The correct word is important in language as well as engineering.
Because communication is so important with the crane operator, they use a time-tested method used by police around the world and have up to twenty people shouting different things at once so that there can be no misunderstanding. 😂
Crane.
renewable energy generation is not allowed in Alberta (where I live). It all has to be oil and gas...that's all that is allowed
Well that’s the power of the greedy, grasping, pollitimg fossil fuel lobby for you. In some US states electric cars are taxed three times.
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That’s a dimwitted lie. Alberta is the third highest wind energy producer in Canada, and has the highest percentage of installed wind generation capacity of any province. Time for you to leave. BC is always looking for twits and liars.
I like the idea use energy of wind, it is also old school, like wind mills. But use composite blades is totally unacceptable. It is not sustainable. We should use much smaller wind turbines buld with sustainable materials on top of every house. This scale of "green energy" is totally not green.
Ahh wind turbines my province has installed thousands of them and my hydro bill has sky rocketed
You should call it an electric bill for people outside of Ontario who don't know what a hydro bill is. Also, intermittency is expensive.
@@eitkoml Perhaps you shouldn't consider anyone dumb enough to not know what his referring to. Unless English isn't their language
Guessing your somewhere off-grid solar isn't viable?
Watching, I can stop thinking of costs.
Return on investment is soooo faaar negative, it will take 6 lifetimes to make it worthwhile.
id rather do this instead of shoveling dirt
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Images are too fast, my brain cannot follow
Not quite so true regarding the burials at sea not being conducted since WW II. When I was on the Midway, after our forward deployment to Japan, in 1973, we lost some aviators in an accident, and several of those were buried at sea, as opposed to being returned to the families at home.
So when is the documentary on how many birds these things kill? Since we are all about going green and saving everything.
The TensionTurbine has ZERO bird kill.
Yeah because as we all know oil and coal kill zero birds.
Tens of thousands of birds and bats are killed by wind turbines annually.
Did you notice that they didn't mention the noise this thangs make and the damage it is doing to the fish and whales that live in the ocean.
I hate them they destroy the land scape with little benefit
those are some beautiful eagle shredders
Not to many eagles in strong winds 20+ miles offshore, where turbines should be
Windmills are literally the worst way to create hydro
Amazing engineering, but after all of that, you get a dinky 3.2mw, that operates around 35% of that capacity. What a waste of money and resources.
Must be old video, no nacell production in Brande anymore
A lot better then solar but will never match nuclear. At some point the earth will become a coil of energy. It won't be good for humans. Robots will love it.
What they ant telling us is how mine birds are killed each year and they still haven't found a way to reclama the fan blades .
The used fan blades now serve as fuel in cement making in one process. Why fixate though over one part ?
@@grahamstevenson1740 Good if that's true .
@@robertwilliams2623 I'm assures that it is indeed true.
given that "nuclear power plants" are merely huge steam baths, and plutonium only increases in value, why would you ever consider another power generation?
one which pollutes, kills and is fundamentally insufficient?
I see the wind turbines being abandoned in about 15 years after the Gov't money keeping them going is cut off due to budget cuts. Similar situation occurred in the early 80s in southern California. What a waste of money!!!!
All that to only power 7,000 washing machines 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
and thats the "capacity." theyre not even giving the facts about how much power is actually produced by the turbine, which is a whole lot less than the stated "capacity." misinformation galore in this video
Biggest scam in the world.🙄
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In ENGLI§SH we call them wind FARMS, not 'parks'. Do translate properly. I also have never heard of a 'yaw gear', obviously another mistranslation..
Soooooooooooooooo greeen .....not
ANY ONE LIVING WITH IN 17 MILES HAS BLACK LIVER & INFLAMED HEART CAUSE OF DEATH INFLAMED HEART
golden eagles may soon face extinction in the US due to wind turbines. to say nothing of all the other types of eagles, hawks, owls, bats, and even insects being destroyed. just keep your head in the sand and pretend it's evironmentally friendly. and please dont cite the number of small common birds killed by housecats. Ive never seen a housecat kill an eagle.
ANYONE THAT THINKS THEY ARE THE WAY TO GO
ARE LIVING IN A FANTASY
CRITICAL THINKING OR COMMON SENSE SAY NO
AND MATHEMATICALLY DELUSIONAL
Bolts not screws
With nuts.
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What a waste of resources. 🤦🏾♂️
really is time people woke up to this BS ! Just HORRIBLE !!!!!!
This is a total waste of time fill with stuff that is meaningless
You really need a commentary WITHOUT an American accent for these European made documentaries. It just sounds so FALSE as it stands.
No to wind turbines.
As soon as I hear an American accent talking in this boring cadence I switch off..
it may be the largest turbine or maybe just the LARGEST waste of time and money
It's a motor you still have to change the oil.
How many birds die and how much polution do they bring in when they are decommissioned and during manufacturing or transportation?
Far less than conventional power. It's easily available information
@@asbestosfiber I would disagree with you on negative impact when it comes to long term because they kill more birds per year than pretty much anything else out there man made and the amount of energy required to manufacture and transport them has to come from somewhere and it's probably not enough to offset the amount of so called green energy since they don't produce all the time and have alot of downtime for Maintenance there were alot of people who froze to death and suffered in Texas I believe because the wind turbines froze up and couldn't produce energy and alot of the grid was transferred over to it. I would say when you take everything in it's just not to positive.