Airbus A400M Offered to India | How will it affect the competition | हिंदी में
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This is a very well made video. Comparison tables make it very convenient for the viewer to understand.
It is clear that if we consider the capacity, price, service ceiling and speed C-390 appears to be the most well rounded aircraft as per the needs of Indian Airforce.
Although there are multiple factors which play a part but the price per ton is lowest for C-390 at $3.2 Mn per Ton and highest for C-130J at $4.25 Mn per Ton.
L1 bidder would win..
@@nishantshrivastava9674 This is not an infra project where L1 is the only criteria for selection.
India will most likely go with C-130J Super Hercules. As absurd it may sound, but it is the most cost effective platform for India and also ticks all requirements.
India already operates Super Hercules family aircraft, so the cost of integrating this platform with existing systems, pilot training, and engineering maintenance would be very low compared to something that is completely new like the Japanese and Brazilian aircraft. Indian army personnel are already well acquainted with Super Hercules family aircraft.
Also, when countries spend billions of USD on buying military hardware, they expect more than just hardware. They expect diplomatic support in key areas of interest, like support and a voice in UNSC and other important bodies. Both Japan and Brazil would be unable to provide that. But US and EU can.
The A400 is also has similar advantages, but it is very pricey and hence would not be considered.
A400m is the best
It is being told that Kawasaki didn’t submit their letter under extended RoI of Indian Defence ministry. So, how comes that C-2 is being considered in this video?
old video attached in this video
Japanese don't sell military products to other countries. Indian navy had to make special request for amphibious planes
122mm d-30 retired or in service of indian army?
RoI is extended as per my knowledge
@@shankarjeetpanda3476 Japan’s Abe government annulled the constitutional provision that prohibits the foreign military systems sales outside of Japan. Fact is that Kawasaki didn’t submit any letter of request for participation in this Indian Cargo aircraft saga, even in extended time range like the rest.
Perhaps they know that they have little chance for getting selected as their platform is the costliest one & has less rugged characteristics suitable for different terrains in the Indian subcontinent.
Let brazilian samba c-390 play out in India, let us support a brics nation and also increase our self reliance.
yup most probably that will happen, just 50 more C295s and 50 more Do228s and thus replacing An32s and also done with deals with Europeans, then diversifying options, we will indeed choose that, now as I see it
Do 228, C295s, then C130s, KC390s and finally C17s, well this is a diverse variety and not sticking to just 1 nation, plus this also looks perfect as a bran new fleet
I think this will happen, surely, BRICS point is also very good, both nations can benefit
Embraer is blacklisted
@@CatOfCulture if it gets out from that, we can get KC390s from them along with continuation of Netra Mk1s for about a total 10, in both ways this benefits us, lets see what happens next
otherwise we would definitely go the 20-30 A400Ms and additional 50 C295s route if Embraer remains in that state
Idk about IAF philosophy of acquiring things but Kawasaki c2 looks dope af and we need those in our inventory :3
A 400 is the best choice. If we chose this, it can be used as refueling and as Awacs platform with fleet commonality. It has a turboprop power plant which is cost efficient both in operation and maintenance aspects. With large number of purchase there is a option for ToT and a manufacturing line in India
Everbody knows that Mercedes Benz, BMW, etc. are far better choices, but the it's the Maruti Suzuki WagonR that sells in huge numbers, month after month.
Will these be considered only for transport or also be used as refueling tankers and AWACS platforms? I think from the logistics commonality angle it would make sense to decide on a common model to help maintain them cheaper and keep them in the air longer at a lower cost. Running costs are at times more important than just the buying costs. That I guess was one of the reasons we went in options besides the Russian jets for fighters.
Very well researched and presented... thanks for sharing...!!
the AIRBUS A400 M (Block II) multi mission transport aircraft could do with a stretched fuselage variant . . . a stretched variant of the A400 M (Block II) multi mission transport aircraft will broaden it's appeal to customers . . . different variants based on a common airframe with multi mission capabilities is exactly what customers look for . . . the AIRBUS A400 M (Block II) multi mission transport aircraft is tailor made to operate from air bases situated at very high altitudes, exceeding 9,683 ft a.s.l. . . perfect for the Himalayan ranges . . . the C-390 Millennium multi mission transport aircraft could replace the the air force's aging fleet of An-32 multi mission light transport aircraft . . .
Very informative piece, many thanks for this 👍👌 Beautiful comparison between all the four brands specs. We should opt for the one which is made in India and the one which carries the maximum firepower, looking at the ever hostile neighbourhood.
If we can get the deal to transfer manufacturing line to India, than in long-term C2 is the best option because it will create jobs and an ecosystem for long-term.
they never do it.
Very good comparision
Is a TOT not possible in this? So that later we are able to manufacture such aircrafts like the Chinese built Y20.
With the issue of low numbers of C17 (IAF didn't give a repeat order), the IAF may be forced to buy the best available platfrom, without thinking about the price. This makes the A400M and C-2 Kawasaki. Also, with USAF also thinking of increasing its airlift capabilities, their is a chance of restarting the production of C-17 Globemaster, a chance India shouldn't miss.
Sir for your information Boeing has stop manufactured C-17 aircraft it was last batch Boeing manufacturers C-17 for IAF i think last lag IAF ordered 2,more C-17
@rajeshchopra1111 USAF is planning to buy around 150 additional C-17 units. This may force Boeing to start production due to the numbers, which may allow IAF to put orders for C17
@@hrushikeshavachat900 i think.boeing is working on transport air craft on new technology and it will be on double capacity & on either lithium battery or on hydrogen fuel
@@rajeshchopra1111 The money for new transport aircraft is given by Pentagon while the money for new C-17 is given by air-force.
Sir I have a doubt as alpha defence told in his video that Japanese have not send a reply for RFP.
As a person who plays Turboprop Flight Simulator... I'am very happy ;)
I think we should also developed our own cargo aircraft like C-17 globe master with Rolls-Royce collaboration for heavy lift engine and we got tata who would get matured with manufacturing of C 295 aircraft.
Sir what are you talking about after so many years we have not developed any light transport / passengers plane till now we have developed "SARANG " propelled base aircraft but still on testing stage & you are talking huge C-17 glob master aircraft will take next 20 to 25 years to develop it
Let's get AMCA flying
@@rajeshchopra1111developing a new military transporter is extremely expensive. the cost for the a400m was up to 20 billion euros. it is almost impossible for anyone to develop it today from the beginning except the usa, eu and china. even the USA modernized the plane from 1955 !!!!!! and not develop a new one. otherwise it would take at least 10 years and huge resources to go from a sketch. if there wasn't a strong political desire to end dependence on the usa, europe would never have developed this plane. this plane will never be economically viable. it is better for india not to go into those waters for now. I know, there is also the issue of technology development, and it is desirable that the country has advanced technology... but for now i think india is better off without it. I feel bad that sometimes the EU spends tens of billions of euros just to compete with the USA
@@rajeshchopra1111Place a Ban on Import, we can produce not only an aircraft. Even quality engines as well. (Till Import Lobby is present, Nothing is Successful in India)😂😂😂
It is for transport of refueling tanker Or AEWACS platform?
Very Nice Comparison
Yea 1st
India should ask Embraer or Airbus to set up a JV in India for India market and global exports.
We are a big army , we need more aircraft , at cost of 3 airbus A400 we are getting 5 embraer C 390 .
If think like that 60 Airbus = 100 Embraer.
thats what I said to another commenter above too, for 3 A400Ms we can get KC390s, but thing is Embraer is blacklisted
I mean if they get unlisted then surely we can do this deal and also get Netra Mk1s back and even more in numbers, but I dont think its gonna happen
thus C2s are better, if they are offered to India
C2s too are expensive but deliver well too plus now its Japan, we are diversifying otherwise buying too much from Airbus can be harmful for Indian geopolitics as its controlled by the EU
I think C2s in 20 numbers seem nice, we should buy 30 more C295s and 30 more Do228s so total 80 done, and thus 10 C17, 10 C130, 20 C2, 80 C295 and 80 Do228 can make us have 200 Planes
currently IAF has 250 planes for transport and maybe IAF wants to make it 300
so the remaining 100, which are gonna be replacements for An32s, but bigger than them, just a little bit shorter than C130s, should be developed indigenously, we are assembling so many planes man, the Japanese copied the globemaster and made C2 which is smaller yet good, also the Italians copied the C130JSH and made a much smaller C27J Spartan
why cant we also make the same as them, I think we can, we need dedication
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भारत सरकार को यार C 17 के रिप्रोडक्शन के लिए बात करनी चाहिए बोइंग से भारत मे और 40 एयरकाफ्ट का वादा करना चाहिए।
साल हर चीज़ में बेस्ट ऐक्रेफ्त है।
To land in remote areas and unprepared runways which type of engine is good . Turboprop or turbofan?
Turboprop
C130 can also be used as a Rapid Dragon Missile deployment system.
Best option will be to get A400M ad KC390 with airbus in flyaway condition and KC390 made in India.
What if this can be used for close air support ?
for 10 Tonn - C295
for 20 Tonn - C130j Super Hercules
for 40 Tonn - A400M
for 80 Tonn - C17 Globe Master
Please highlight the issue of subbotage in our indigenous helicopter crash incidents through maintenance helicopter department by Indian private sectors alongwith foreign lobbies specially from Europe 🔥🔥🔥
When 120 mmrca will arrive?
Probably best jet and manufacturing inlong term airbus aircraft parts and landing gear .....but who listens .....taking fast decisions is need of hour ........everything goes towards salaries ...pensions
Excellent.shirt and sweet
but still embrear is black listed so how would be choose that
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India can go for the Embraer family, because maybe in the future India can buy a stake in the company. Going for c130 is foolish though there are reasons to buy that model having 12 nos. Aircraft have hardly 4 decades of service and by that time India can build infrastructure to design and build aircrafts of all types from fighters, strategic airlifter, air refuellers, and awacs. India is already making for Airbus (c-295), and Boeing (f16 wings and Apache fuselage). Mahindra can have a tie-up with Embraer to build aerospace infrastructure and produce c390.
Embrace now has Boeing as the biggest shareholder.
Am I the only one who thinks the C130J-30 variant of the Super Hercules is a good choice here? Since we already have some of them? There's repair facilities and infrastructure established for them already by Lockheed Martin.
That's a very strong point for the super Hercules, but some requirements are not met, but it will all come down to licence manufacturing rights. Because YK first pr and second promotion of manufacturing in pvt sector.
Well said.
main purpose of the hercs purchase was for specialist missions for specops but having to be used in transport role due to lack of mta
@@Rishabh-ty3grWe have a huge ass requirement, so Lockheed Martin will definitely let us license-build these in India similar to Airbus with their C295s.
@@CatOfCulture yeah and they do want that sweet sweet Indian market to flex.
A400 was offered to india during development of aircraft..india pulled out of the program for buying c130 hercules
Brilliant comparison. Logical sense from a maintenance and inventory perspective since C130j is already in IAF. That should be the choice. Even training the pilots for a common platform would make more sense. Rest of course experts would know better always. My apologies for being naive in my approach.
That is exactly the point. Everyone is throwing opinions like they are comparing smartphones. C130J will be the most cost effective aircraft for India, as it already operates those. So there is no additional cost involved. Baring maybe A400, rest all require completely new setup, pilot training, integration with existing systems, etc. that makes them very costly in long term.
80 C-130 J-30 with 20 A 400 M Atlas would br e the best option....
C-390 is also a good option but C-130 is due to commonality to both C-130 in IAF and C-295 as well....
India is short of heavy lift transport aircrafts.
India needs to either purchase or take on lease 10 secondhand C17 globemaster for 15 years from USA.
Through this we will immediately get very capable transport aircrafts at a fraction of the cost of new aircrafts.
Kawasaki bid nahi kar Raha.
Already hamari heavy plane ki jarurat ab bad gayi hai .
IL 70 bekaar ho chuke hai.
Isliye bada capacity wala lena hi theek hai .
Air bus ya Kawasaki best hai .
il 70 aur globe master ka comparison kare to globemastre costly hai par reliable hai .
What is the operating cost Kawasaki plane ? Plz add operating costs also
India should go for 15/20 numbers C130J as IAF already has 12 of them, and about 30 numbers A400 Atlus
Can c-390 carry 25 tons light tank
Sir ek alfa difance karke chanalle hai jis par likha hai all difance matrix viewer also view this cahnlle to sir kya aap hi use chala rahe hain ye froad hai ki
we need to diversify our arsenal ........... too much dependence on the America ...... or any other country is not good
Wait for HAL. They will submit a proposal that they want to make their own transport aircraft in Just 5 yrs. But it will never comes in next 50 yrs.
F16 jasa jet India kiu nahi desing nahi karta. light fighter kiu banata ha India. video plz
Go for indigenous aircraft....
Possibly the best jest we can get
Yes, but meteor is missing bro and india might integrate astra mk2,3 and rudram 1,2 ,3.
India should have procured c70 Globemaster long time back....
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In my opinion IAF should immediately buy 13 Ex RAF C130J. Which they offered at pittance. And few can be procured from USA. So total will be around 40 C130J. That's good enough for next 25 years.
yeah that seems nice, but bold of you to think RAF likes IAF, those Brits are of no one, they are racist AF and will not like to give them to us considering the Safran Deal and how nowadays we are countering Britain in almost everything in geopolitics
as per me, even though your idea seems nice, but I think the following is gonna be the scenario
10 C17s
10 C130J30s
20 KC 390 or A400M or C2
80 C295
80 Do228
and next 100 are gonna be indigenous, it should be, we should do it to replace An32s
btw as you saw, we already have 50 Do228s and 50 C295s are on order
maybe as per me, we should actually continue to buy those for 30 each, and then 20 to be bought for that MTA programme, total 80 as mentioned
also this would make the price come low
and this seems most realistic scenario as per me
btw Embraer is blacklisted and we are already gonna use C295s, A321s, A319s and A330s of Airbus, and Do228 is also european, thus I highly suggest us to buy those 20 remaining ones as C2s only, the price is more but performance too
then for the leftover 50 to 100 more planes we might need, I suggest to make them indigenously
we are making so many planes from every where under license, I believe we can make 100 planes of our own
lets hope for the best
btw your idea too was good but nah not happening as per me
Why you are .... bluffing....who gave order ...is the contract signed??? It is just offered....no contract signed
C-17 Globemaster k as pas koi nahi hai ?????
Ye competition C130 vs C390 hoga price ko dekhte hue
I would have gone for A400m.
Kawasaki C-2 🎌🔥
bhai mehenga bahut hai, shayad na len, KC 390 zyada sense bana rha hai abhi takk, why take in a large fleet of A400Ms, itne paise nhi hain humaare paas and it would be an overkill, thus bas C295s aur Do228s aur lenge hum to replace An32s and bas phir Europe pe total dependence na ho jaye isiliye hum pakka KC 390 lenge, C130 sense nhi banata aur C2 sachme mehenga hai yaar, accha hai leking nhi le payenge
Im sure KC 390 bhi hum bas 20 ya zyada se zyada 30 hi lenge uss se zyada nhi lenge
okay so I researched a bit more after writing the first comment, and now it seems nice, Japan doesnt have enemy stance towards India and we have a common enemy China, and Embraer is blacklisted, hmm... perhaps 20 to 30 C2s now seem good, also A400Ms will make us a puppet of Europe kinda, like we are getting Airbus 295s, then A321s being upgraded for AWACS, then A330 MRTTs as refuelers, man, if we buy A400Ms too then we are screwed thus yeah, as Embraer is black listed then C2s are much much better if bought in smaller numbers
A400M have more price compared other options, may be in reduced numbers will be viable
But Airbus already manufacturers c295 in India
@@sarants4488 yeah I think we can buy the A400Ms too, I will tell you how
we bought 50 C295s to replace our HS748s
maybe we are gonna place an order of extra 50, making it a total of 100, and also further make 50 more Do228s to bring them up to 100 as well
in this way we are gonna retire An32s of IAF completely with these combined 200 aircrafts
Rest, as IAF currently operate 250 transporters, so 200 done here, and we have got almost 25 aircrafts already, around 12 C130s and 11 C17s
so maybe an order of 50 C295s and 50 Do228s is given to save up costs and replace An32s, and for MTA we MIGHT choose 20 to 30 A400Ms only and not beyond that
considering C130s being only special mission like, and C17 production being stopped, this might be it if we think via the 'AIRBUS IS ALREADY MAKING FOR IAF' route and proceed for a continued deal
OTHERWISE most possible option for taking in KC390s also exists, well because, A400Ms job is already being done by C17s, and also to diversify options and take up knowledge from a lot of countries, we might lean more towards it, given that C2s are very EXPENSIVE
so maybe this can happen too otherwise next option is just A400M
What is operational/ maintaince cost of these transport aircrafts ?
A400m uses turboprop engines,so maintaince cost would be lesser than any aircraft with turbofan engine(same category).
Also it's western platform not a russian or chinese,so lesser maintenance unit cost and better maintenance is obvious,but per unit cost of a400m is toooo high.
@@unknown_5107 Thanks for information
Embror c390 is the best option for IND
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Order milega c130j Hercules ko hi
why dont we consider C-17 Globemaster, we are already usuing it
bhai production band ho gyi kabki
earlier 6 to 10 more were to be bought, Boeing built them, but India didnt buy idk why, the deal was cancelled in last moments I think
then we reduced the number to 3 and again didnt buy
and thus Boeing sold all jets to other nations, it did keep 1 for India yet whoops we didnt get that one too, we lost it
now production stopped and they aint gonna resume until order is big
and 20 C17s are gonna cost 2 to 3 times more than even A400Ms and C2s man, plus they are an overkill, possible to get them still, but man, they aint gonna resume their production lines any time soon, never perhaps, we lost the bus again
nevermind we MIGHT get second hand C17s when USA retires them but service life then will be very less compared to brand new
Did Assam rifles failed in Manipur?
A400 is still good offer
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I think Kawasaki C-2 is best option for I.A.F.
Turbo-prop v/s turbo-jet
One is rugged and other is efficient and has more speed .
One is reliable in all conditions and can land on any surface and one cannot and requires special prep surfaces to land .
Main differences.
Agar A400M ko bhi C295 ke tarah procure Kiya jata h with TATA partnership toh ye choice aachi hogi
this would make us a slave of western planes, bro we are gonna use atleast 10 AWACS based on A321s, we might also make A319s and A330s as AWACS, and we already are buying C295s, and also, 10 A330s can be bought under Refueling tanker procurement
bro, this is being overdependent on Europe, plus even Do228 is European, plus we are gonna develop engines for AMCA Mk2 with Safran and already are gonna buy 114 + 26 Rafales, doesnt this show we are into Europe a lot, making A400Ms will be a diplomatic blunder and these westerners will get an excuse to use India as a puppet
idk whats gonna happen, Im now against A330 procurement btw, coz that too will put us back in their shoes, thus KC 46 A or B767 upgraded tanker lifter makes more sense now with Boeing, being too much with Airbus can be harmful
their lobbies are active to destroy IMRH, ALH, LCH, and in future LUH and HCH
we cannot let them do this, we need to place our cards well or we are trapped in their hands
@@lightyagami5483 I know that too but unfortunately we are out of choices. Russia can't provide the transport platform we need. As for why Airbus because Airbus and Safran MRO facilities will be soon opened in India and we will be able to manage their spare and repairs just like we managed to make our own spares of Su 30 and it's engines. I think going with Airbus would be good choice because TATA might be able to absorb some tech and we can create an aircraft manufacturing ecosystem similar to our helicopter, submarines and Aircraft carrier. It is said to say but when it comes to big Cargo plane our expertise and knowledge is very limited and we need more time to create our own indegenous platform that can work as refuler, AWACS, ASW, COMINT platform. Atleast we are working on RTA but it's pace is very slow
More C 130 J super Hercules would be the best option for procuring .... cuz already we have the logistical chain set up and there should be no need of training fresh crews on some fresh platform !!!!
This is common sense why are we even talking about this 😅
C-130J is very small, C-17 would have fit India's need but Boeing has already closed it's production line, C-5 Super Galaxy will be the best choice.
Ambani should buy Embraer and make India aeronautical base.
@Hero007ization:
Why don't you talk to him and convince him
What is the reason the C-130J has lesser ability to meet requirements of the IAF for transport aircraft? Doesnt IAF already having them help it's chances that much more?
perhaps that were brought for geo-political reasons but as you see, India need aircrafts with higher celling to tackle China and Pakistan in Himalayas, which C-130 is not fulfilling to the best with such lower celling.
@nitinkumar29 the C-130 actually set a record landing at the highest altitude and it was done by India. It was published on LM's website
@@F22raptor46 that might be the case but if Indian Air force can achieve that with C-130, they might well do even higher with higher celling aircraft such as Kawasaki C2 which has not only higher celling, load carrying capacity, speed and range. Japanese products are always reliable and robust.
@@nitinkumar29 Japanese products are also not for export, plus they're far more expensive than European
@@F22raptor46 Japanese may export, it is new product and they may have some time to work out the whole process. European products might be better but expensive and have a big hurdle of dealing with multiple countries involved, Indians rejected such proposal before and most likely now. Either they will go with the US or Japan, that's my gut feeling as an Indian.
C 130 j best one...
Logistics nightmare?
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A400M has components form EU nations that will certainly cut the supplies as per their whims and fancies.
cant agree more, why buy more A400Ms and be over dependent on Europe
C295s and Do228s are already from Europe
C2 or KC390 is more better, also C130s are special ops aircrafts, not proper cargo lifters, plus such a large number of planes taken from USA is gonna make us slaves of west in cargo transporters category
thus C2 and KC390 are much much better
I would argue to just buy 30 more C295s and Do228s to have a fleet of 80 aircrafts each, and then these total 160 planes can easily REPLACE our An32s which are 100 and HS748s which are 50 so total 150 being replaced asap in next 1 to 2 decades
then the remaining 20 planes, as total are 80 to be ordered and we can think of getting 30 of each as mentioned above, can be C2s or KC390s or maybe even A400Ms, but then the number is small and cost doesnt matter
personally C2s and KC390s will be better, why buy A400Ms unnecessarily and become over dependent on Airbus
if I am not wrong, 6 A321s are gonna become Netra MK2s and also maybe 6 additional, plus if IAF brings back dome like AWACS idea on A330s then total 10 to 15 new and only AWACS for next 3 decades of IAF, along with A330 MRTTs which we are thinking of buying asap as refuelers, is indeed gonna make us over dependent on Airbus
I think IAF, PSUs, Private players too and especially the government knows this, hence a bit of time is being taken to think about something better
it would be nice if we buy less numbers from outside for the moment and try to use the old planes for a bit more time and in the meantime make our own cargo lifters for the total renewal
@@lightyagami5483then you realise KC-390 has european sub contracters.
C2 ne india ki RFI ko response nehi kiya... To C2 competition se out
In Airbus A440 unit price we can get 4-5 units of C-390 millennium aircrafts which gives us more strategic depth. In war like situations, we need quantities and top of that we can utilise C390 milenium as multirole aircraft which is need of the hour.
Also Airbus lobby subbotaging our helicopter induction programme 🔥🔥🔥
the what... I agree with the lobby part
I agree with all you said
but bro, wth, 4 to 5 C390s in the price of 1 A400M, what are you saying lol
1 KC 390 is 85 million dollars, so 4 will be 340 million dollars, meanwhile A400Ms are at 140 million dollars, so in that sense, its not equal at all
btw yeah for 5 KC390s we can get 3 A400Ms, but the price of A400M is more coz its better
btw as per me, we should collaborate with Japan, and thus build C2s instead, they aint used by many, they wont be exported much, only Japan and India will work on it, and Japan wont bully us, it cant, coz we are allies against China, so that makes it better
although these jets cant be bought in 80 numbers, at most 40 can be bought, but I think only 20 will be bought, rest small scale planes will be bought a bit more in follow on orders, and the remaining planes needed can be replaced by Indigenous options in next 2 to 3 decades, this would be better and as we now know planes from all countries, we can make our own, given that HAL delivers, btw its TATA making them all, so I hope TATA, L and T, etc can work well too, and HAL supports them with tech they have already developed to be integrated, win win
@@lightyagami5483 yes agree on what you said but in war like situations quantity matters. Japan's C2 is a great plane but when you wants quantity with acceptable quality then C390 milenium is great choice. Another thing is we have huge civilian market for C390 kind of planes within country. Brazilian plane industry is also eagerly waiting for big expansion in near future. Now the time has come where Brazil and Bharat has to come together as part of BRICS nation which has promising future and win win situation for both the countries.
With Japan we have already experienced strategic delays in US-2 aircraft and kind of lesson to us. I believe Japan is not independent and totally depends upon USA.
If IAF is smart they will choose the A400M
@johnhero:
No, they're not as smart as you are. 😉
@@le_ecrivaine yeah like not ordering more c17 , limited numbers of ch47F , still operating the flying coffin ... Not so smart
Modi need extra good stuffs all the times, i means it
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We should move forward with Airbus as they agreed to make in India project for C 295 .. and in this case also with a big number of order and make in India with some percentage of TOT will be the best option
Kawasaki C2 ko kyu consider kr rahe ho..
U-2 ka example km hai kya..
Japanese are not good partner..
Wohh log ku6h bechne vale nahi hai..
hmmm interesting, but they might do so, considering that India and Japan both are anti China
Idk what will happen
issues are, C130s are not fit for only transport category, KC 390 cant be made as Embraer is blacklisted, C2s wont be given if we take your stance, A400M will make us over dependent on European Airbus Company, hmmmmm
idk man what happens
I wanted that C2 as its the best considering geopolitics too
what happened to U2 btw arent they giving us that
that will be really sad
अगर सी 295 और ज्यादा ले लिए जाएं तो इंडिया के कितना अच्छा होगा
Japan ki industry koi matlab nhi hai Kawasaki C2 bhi acha platform hai with turbofan engine
kawasaki ninja bike kharido wo kafi sasti hain.😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
kc-390
I love Russian made IL
@tp4398:
You can buy it for your use. IAF isn't interested.
@@le_ecrivaine can you tell me reason,
in history IAF had used IL in war.
Kawasaki will fit our need better because of better celling height, and has better range and speed, Japanese technology has always been reliable and robust and they are friendly nation to us too and have to deal with one country instead of many EU countries, the EU countries are have lot of problems of immigration and religion, they may refuse us spare parts say 20 years after when most of the EU will have majority of Muslim population while Japan is homogenous with next to nothing immigrant population and their work ethics and productivity score surpass every other country in the world.
Germany ordered 50 a400m of they can why can't we. How long are we gonna show misery in national security and logistics?!!
We r no Germany.. They r developed countries with surplus dollars.. We r modernizing our military not expanding it.. We have to do everything in that limited budget.
@@nishantshrivastava9674 yup, sad yet true
I hope our economy becomes twice by next decade so we can spend almost twice or maybe thrice the current military budget, thrice in case the percentage is increased for Defence, like 3 percent from 2 percent, etc
lets see
I hope one day we have a fleet on par with atleast Russia, aiming to equate USA
@roughriderkenan:
If Germany ordered 50, India should buy 60. 😉
@@le_ecrivaine ho jayega, we will get a few more second hand C130s and C17s with a large number of C390 millennium, I see it coming...
Our fleet would be
25 C17s
25 C130s
50 C390s
100 C295s
100 Do228s
Total 300 (replenishing current requirement)
Plus this is cost effective ngl (we don't have unlimited budget)
If Japan offers c2 to India then India should go for it
Emram india me ban hai😂😂😂🎉