Why we see less of IL 76s in IAF | Revisit | हिंदी में
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Saw many IL-76s on the Chandigarh airport in Nov 22. The conditions of these aircrafts was poor and looked like junk/retired aircrafts.
We should go for c390 as it costs only 50 - 55 million dollars with a payload capacity of 26 tons also with a new design compared to c130j super Hercules which is a old design which costs 75 million dollars with a payload of 20 tons. Embraer also accepted to make modifications according to Iaf's needs which will also reduce dependance on America.
@@ganeshprabu.k.s2082embrere is black listed in India
Yes because chandigarh have 2 sqn. Of IL76 .
@@Cayroh617 bro if embraer is black listed it cannot participate in medium Transport aircraft tender but it offers c 390 to india so it is not blacklisted.
We should indeed buy C390 ASAP.. ASAP and save lifespan of C17 .
I remember my journey from Bhuj to Baroda and then Baroda to Pune in an IL-76 back in 2001... And it was such a huge plane! The ride was bumpy... But this used to be the pride of the air force.. times change and now i think its time to bid adieu to this plane, along with mig 21 and An 32
I also traveled from Bhuj to Hindon back in 2001 after bhuj earthquake. Huge mammoth plane. Pity Russians cannot control the quality of their production
@@vineetverma9178
There is new modification of il 76
More expensive than old one
All third world
Or southern countries seeking cheap aircraft
When only 18 C-17s were due to roll out, we were asked if we want to buy a few more. The IAF said YES PLEASE, but our babus decided that there was no hurry. Nahin bik raha hai, thoda thehro. With 15 left, Boeing again reminded us-same response. We thought, "apne hi pas aayega, aur kahan jayega." We finally bought the last C-17 available. Then we asked Boeing for more. Boeing just said, "sod off."
Tactic was might be to negotiate for lesser price. Boeing was like 'vishwaguru...we have more profitable ventures to work on. Margins are more important for us'
We should go for c390 as it costs only 50 - 55 million dollars with a payload capacity of 26 tons also with a new design compared to c130j super Hercules which is a old design which costs 75 million dollars with a payload of 20 tons. Embraer also accepted to make modifications according to Iaf's needs which will also reduce dependance on America.
Babus should be locked up for treason. They are sabotaging all parts of the modernization of Indian military
Instead of blaming it on babus, blame it directly on the ruling govt which was in power at that time as they have the final call on these matters
Sir, there two types of people in our defence equipment acquistion process /system
1) honest people who will follow the rules to the "T" and they do not want to take much risk because these arms acquisition has always got a risk of turning out one scandal or the other so they would rather prefer not take any decisions at all thus get into controvery and trouble later on if some scandals happen thus spoil their career and post retirement benfits and life
2) There are dishonest people who will not budge an inch untill thier palms are greased since there will always be many people in this disputes and conflicts in the greasing of palms, those type people will also not do much of the work because there is too many layers of defence equipment procurement bureaucracy.
il-76 is $50 million per unit cost and other side c-17 Globemaster is $340 million per unit cost .obviously c-17 itna jyada mehnga hoga to performance v acha aega sir per esme bohat il-76 ajayaga😅
Maintanance cost bhi dekhana padega
When I was in my Air Force School, Agra, we were taken to see aircrafts on Air Force Day, then for the first time I saw IL-78, AN-32 and Avro, and showed them from inside as well, the whole analog system was as big as the wall of my room. There was a panel as big as that and the whole panel was full of analog meters. Later, when I grew up in 12th class, the children of the officers used to study together, they used to tell that Il 78 has many issues, sometimes fuel leaks, engine overheating, sometimes mechanical issues and the whole squadron never remains operational. And the sound of the engines oh my god my house is not far from the station when it takes off even my kitchen utensils fall. And don't ask about night flying.
Acha 🤣
do you remember the aircraft that used to stand behind the airforce school ground inside the forest?
@@arnavsadhu offcourse HF24 marut. I've also clicked a picture with that fighter .
lL76, I was posted in siachen during 1988 to 1990 base camp and thois. I travelled from thoise to chandigarh and vise versa at least two or three times. That time this plane was very superb and proud of IAF. Very Memoriable achievement of my armed forces life. I proud of my Indian Army . Jai Hind Bharat Mata ki Jay
Our super speed defence equipment acquisition process combined with russia -ukraine war which would be a "double whammy" Would definitely result in the fastest acquisition of russian manufactured defence equipments by Indian defence forces 😉
i saw 3 IL 76 in a single day over kolkata
Russian airforce completely depends on IL-76.
That's why Russian Airforce has no role in Ukraine war bcs its completely worthless.
Yes but they have their own chain of spare availability and other supplies. But in the case of India, we have to import it from weather Russia or Ukraine.
@@MohitThakur04 This is dumbest logic I have heard in my entire life. The reality is western weapon supplier provides commission to everyone and Russian don't pay commission so it is necessary to show Russian weapons are not good. Instead we are buying wonder weapons and spending billions, Ukrainian Russian war have shown that there is no wonder weapon. It's always going to be quantity..
They have an 124 too
The C17 should be used only for outsized cargo... We should look at having civilian type large cargo plane operated by the iaf to do most of the normal airlifting to preserve the fleet of c17
Civilian cargo lifts are Airbus / Boeing commercial aircraft, they are completely different. They have significantly less payload capacity, need proper long smooth runways everywhere, do not have electronics for military grade communication, tracking etc. It would be very costly to retrofit civilian transport aircraft for military use.
Yes! A330 MRTT would be a great choice!
My uncle is in the IAF and I had an opportunity to visit afs Chandigarh. IL 76 is commissioned in squadron no 44 ‘Mighty Jets’ . And told me that il 76 is still the backbone of airforce and c17 is in no comparison to the sorties being flown everyday by il especially if we see multiple regular flights from Chandigarh to Ladakh. So il 76 is still very competent.
We should make arrangements for building spares for C17 and IL76 indegenously to maintain them
Glad to be here on time 🙌
Saw just 2 days ago taking off Lohegaon. Was pleasantly surprised by seeing it after longtime
I also saw a IL-76 in bagdogra airport I don't if it was there for service but the surprising thing was not in a hanger but was at the corner of the airport near end of run way and it had 3 of it's engines missing it was painful to look at it
When did u see?
@@RCLepcha let see 2 or 3 years ago I don't take much connecting flights to guwhati any more
@@Moon-no3ts oh i see
Glad the old intro is back
It's a shame that people are not subscribing this channel
People like masala party propaganda more than rational national security analysis.
We should buy 20-25 mote C17 globemasters from USA , 2nd hand.
If they are willing to sell.
Reliablity :
These are work horses, their needs are proved in the tasks they accomplish.
Strong fuselage and powerful heavy lift Jet Engines are it's strength.
Issues:
Servicibility ...🤔
If we have longer life jet engines it would never have to be replaced.
Maintainence:
Spares have to be sourced from both Ukraine and Russia.
C-5 super galaxy have more payload capacity then C-17 globe master
Yea it’s a bigger aircraft
This is High Time Russia can be requested to convert one or more existing IL - 76 s as FTB (Flying Test Bed for development of Turbofan Engines), as PRC did with the help of Russia.
Daily seee both c 17 and il 76 in Chandigarh, c 17 engines are quiet comparitive to il 76 engines such a noisy engine, windows starts shaking at time of landing and takeoff just above my house , but feels good as defence aspirant 👍
But in near future US airforce will be needing new transport aircraft so they will launch a new variant of c-17 or a totally new aircraft. Which will be for all old customers of c-17
USAF has a variety of transport aircraft, new version of C-17 is being made but it will be a lot more costly.
Good to see old starting
What about c 295 ? They have a manufacturing plant of it in vadodara
much much smaller aircraft, not comparable
This beast literally shakes when it’s engines start just like when we sit in an autorickshaw with that grgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrg sounds
Best option is to lease C-17 from US Airforce. They have 70 odd for emergency deployment.
थोड़े कम नही बहुत कम ऑर्डर दिया था भारतीय वायु सेना ने न जाने क्या सोच के
Indian Defense is like the average Indian.... Sab kuch jugaad me aur saste me chahiye.... Bache kuche paise khud hi khaa jaayenge..
We should try to integrate r37 on su 30s so that we have heavily aggressive missiles against our adversaries, this missile can be used to push enemy aircraft on the back foot by launching it in their general direction as this missile has an active seeker to find targets itself.
It has a longer range than meteor and can work greatly until Astra mk3 arrives
Everyday I see them.. In Chandigarh, they make so much noice while landing and take off..
See IL76 has 4 engine slots so why not just empty 1 engine and make it a test bed for our engine development program.
We have them so we shd use them for stuff we need.
Try this new engine upgrade on 1 existing IL 76 of India. If performance is good then we can look for it, otherwise better to select western engines like GE of C17.
British Airforce is going to retire some of its planes just to uprgrade its airforce, IAF can consider those as they is more life reamining for those planes
IL 76 की सबसे अच्छी बात जो आपने नही बताए वो ये कि पिछले लगभग 40 साल मे एक भी IL 76 दुर्घटनाग्रस्त नही हुआ , रशियन इंजीनियरिंग 👌 जबकि पहले खरीदे 6 मे पहला c130 j हरकुलिस 6 महीने मे ही धौलपुर के पास ट्रेनिंग मे क्रैश हो गया 19 वायुसैनिक शहीद हुए।
India spent billions to install Israeli AWACS system on IL-76s , wonder what is the serviceability of that very important platform ?
This intro is best !!! JAI HIND🇮🇳
What about second hand c17.
Yes, after dedollarization the u.s. will default and then there won't be any world policing left for the u.s. military that means they will need to withdraw from foreign military bases across the world, that time they might sell most of their military hardware to allies. We have little chance there.
Serious doubt, what did defence matrix analyze in this video? If not everything spoken is just there in Open Source.
It is a sad ending for IAF that they cannot acquire anymore of C-17s. Also what happened to the A330 MRTT deal ?
Hi bro IAF procurement is always dam slow irritating frustrating delays, army and Navy for better both aggressively modernizing, but IAF Is 😬🙄😮💨🤦 nothing no vision no modernization nothing
@@vaibhavs.p3899
Also no budget
A330 ka production bnd hone ka time aa gya kya??
Nhi to.. Itni jaldi kya h yr.. Abhi canteen se shopping krne jana h
@@nishantshrivastava9674
I got you bro.
@@nishantshrivastava9674 no, there are still planes on order from European countries
Why We couldn't buy American second hand c17 in storage
C-17 globemaster ko L&T ke sath deal karwa kar TOT/license lekar khud hi desh me manufacturing karna chahiye. Ya phir bade numbar me order diye jaay Boeing ko. ILyushin aircraft ko to de-commission kar deni chahiye.
Itna nahi hamare babu sochenge. Wo russia k dalley hain, unhe India se ni matlab hai bas russia se rishwat chahiye.
Boeing will never give away a priceless design like C-17. Also, it uses a lot of parts from other EU suppliers. Everyone would need to agree which itself will take years.
Make a video related to why c-17 globemaster production stopped ?? 🙏🤔
Why don't we buy c 130 in large quantities then?
Because a c130 can't lift tank. It will not make sense in heavy lift aircraft
We should go for c390 as it costs only 50 - 55 million dollars with a payload capacity of 26 tons also with a new design compared to c130j super Hercules which is a old design which costs 75 million dollars with a payload of 20 tons. Embraer also accepted to make modifications according to Iaf's needs which will also reduce dependance on America.
We have enough C130 as medium category & also making Casa 295 for light category. We need heavy lift category like C17 or C5 galaxy.
@@surojeetchatterjee bro if we purchase 80 c 390 under medium lift transport aircraft it will cost only 4.4 billion dollars that is 55 million dollars per unit which has more payload capacity of 26 tons which is more than 20 tons of C 130j
But if we purchase 80 c 130j under medium lift aircraft rfi it will cost 6 billion dollars eventhough it has less payload capacity of 20 tons which is less than that of 26 tons of C 390 and had older design compared to c 390 of Embraer.
Assume that if maintainence, support, overhaul and spares cost of c 390 about 100 million dollars in the future, still the deal for 80 c 390 will cost around 4.5 billion dollars which is 1.5 billion dollars less than 6 billion dollars deal for 80 c 130j
So it is better to go with c 390 which has cheap price, better payload, new design.
Embraer also accepted to local manufacturing, transfer of technology, Integration of indian weapons and sensors and make modifications according to IAF'S Needs like awacs, bomber, anti submarine warfare aircraft, gunships, air to air refueler etc which is never possible in c 130j.
Also,C 130j is meant for special missions and not for medium lift operations.
Purchase of C 390 will also reduce dependance on America and Russia in the future.
We cannot purchase airbus A400m because it costs about 150 million dollars.
We cannot buy c 17 because the production is stopped and all c 5 galaxy is retired and America will not sell c 5m super galaxy to India.
India cannot buy new or old IL 76 because it had poor availability rate.
So the best option available for IAF is C 390 millennium.
IL76s is the past... C17 Globemaster is the future of IAF. But given the terrain of India's North and North East, India does not need this massive fleet since an invading Chinese army is incapable of coming deep inside India... the mistakes were made but they are now being tackled by building better infrastructure. Plus IAF can always use Air India and Indigo Airlines which will have combined fleet of 2000 aircraft soon
bro if we purchase 80 c 390 under medium lift transport aircraft it will cost only 4.4 billion dollars that is 55 million dollars per unit which has more payload capacity of 26 tons which is more than 20 tons of C 130j
But if we purchase 80 c 130j under medium lift aircraft rfi it will cost 6 billion dollars eventhough it has less payload capacity of 20 tons which is less than that of 26 tons of C 390 and had older design compared to c 390 of Embraer.
Assume that if maintainence, support, overhaul and spares cost of c 390 about 100 million dollars in the future, still the deal for 80 c 390 will cost around 4.5 billion dollars which is 1.5 billion dollars less than 6 billion dollars deal for 80 c 130j
So it is better to go with c 390 which has cheap price, better payload, new design.
Embraer also accepted to local manufacturing, transfer of technology, Integration of indian weapons and sensors and make modifications according to IAF'S Needs like awacs, bomber, anti submarine warfare aircraft, gunships, air to air refueler etc which is never possible in c 130j.
Also,C 130j is meant for special missions and not for medium lift operations.
Purchase of C 390 will also reduce dependance on America and Russia in the future.
We cannot purchase airbus A400m because it costs about 150 million dollars.
We cannot buy c 17 because the production is stopped and all c 5 galaxy is retired and America will not sell c 5m super galaxy to India.
India cannot buy new or old IL 76 because it had poor availability rate.
So the best option available for IAF is C 390 millennium.
Why not Airbus A400M
@@ankoo10 it is very costly aircraft
@@fatehdharmender3495 but it's abilities are better than c390 in terms of weight lifting capacity or take off and landing in high altitude. It's a modern design and it can also be customised according to our needs. I personally think for our army we should always go for quality. Airforce is also planning to buy the costliest mq9 b drones coz of their capabilities and reliability.
@@ankoo10 bro it costs 150 million with a payload of 38 tons, in this price we can buy 3 C 390 ( 3 × 26 tons = 78 tons). It is also a new design, customized according to our needs and it is also a quality aircraft like A400M.
the decision making capabilities of indian armed force surprise me no more. they have mastered the science of poor decision making.
We should go for c390 for medium lift aircraft rfi and to replace il - 76 as it costs only 50 - 55 million dollars with a payload capacity of 26 tons also with a new design compared to c130j super Hercules which is a old design which costs 75 million dollars with a payload of 20 tons. Embraer also accepted to make modifications according to Iaf's needs which will also reduce dependance on America. We cannot buy new or used il 76 from russia as it has an old design and will have poor availability rate in the future.
What about the Airbus A400M?
@@maitreytelang2312 bro it costs 150 million with a payload of 38 tons, in this price we can buy 3 C 390
@@ganeshprabu.k.s2082 Yeah but, it can carry atleast 1 Tata Kestrel / Zorawar LT, carry upto 116 troops / paratroopers, can perform aerial refueling and can also act as a tanker. It has got much better utility than C-390. Also, Make in Insia will be easier for A400M cause C-295 is already being manufactured in India.
A400M have wide body and can carry tanks and artillery guns. IL76MD 90 dont have rear side door. Getting A4000M will be better option.
I thought C17 can carry close to 78 tons
There is talk of them carrying 2 light tanks weighing 37 tons each
My travelled a lot in this plane.
India can work with Antonov to develop an improved version of An124 with western assistance.
This aircraft can fulfill the heavy lift category for air forces around the world as there are no aircrafts in production in this category.
Bhai kichdi pasand hogi tumhe .
Don’t touch Russian hardware with 10 foot pole. They are poor quality and not reliable
May be antonove is in total ruins
Due to un reliable d-3engine it servicility and avability is only 35percent also shortage of spare parts and over hoiling problem it situation is very warash India require capable cargo work horse of 40to50tons payload
Banana Defence by Banana Republic of India.
Saw one recently in Tripura
If India requests USA, and places substantially big order, it is possible that USA concerned company may reopen the manufacturing line and manufacture few dozen C-17
can someone give me "INTRO" music link ?? pls
Sir, with the demand for C-17, why was the production of the C-17 stopped ??? What was the reason ???? And is the Airbus A-400 any good and can it be compared with IL -76 ????
C17 is more than 50 years old tech, usa has enough of c17 now. The cold war is over and they are developing new aircraft meantime. The new one will be available in 2040 , so they stopped the production line. Usa has huge number of aircrafts in Nevada desert. They can use them in emergency.
We already use the EMBREAR R99 AWACS aircraft and these are quite capable planes. Why don’t we consider the EMBREAR C 390 Millennium Medium lift aircraft for our air logistics!!
Gajraj takes a lot of Rest😂
the Indian Air Force could consider replacing their existing fleet of Ilyushin Il-76MD multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft with the Ilyushin Il-76MF-90A multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft which is a stretched variant of the Ilyushin Il-76MD multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft . . . Indian Air Force could send in a request to U.S. Department Of Defense for possible acquisition of 38 - 43 second hand C-17A Globemaster III multi mission heavy lift transport aircraft from the USAF . . . poonch ne mein kya harzz hai . . .
Enough of Russian junk Il76.
C390 or new C130J...
How about buying more C130J super Hercules aircraft?
We could go for AN-124, or Kawasaki transporter
India should to try to make cargo plane
Only bought 11 c17. What a future ready planning by IAF. 🙄🙄🤮Pathetic
When IAF used brain ? It only looks for its own officials interests. Corruption & nepotism is rampant.
Do we have a English version of this Channel also ?
Purana wala intro 🫠
c-17 ka fir se production line start ho sakta hai agar bara order mila to
We can use c5 galaxy
C-90 Milenium (TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT) Is best option for IND
India must buy second hand c17 from other countries....il76 availability problem full....
Better to go with C390 and make new 50 tons aircraft on the base of C390
India should try to get c17 manufacturing line transferred to India
I saw il76 in kolkata airport last month...
Indian air forces should’ve bought 50 these squadron of 10 in each corner of India.
Can these be used as refuler
India should replace IL-76 with An-124 which have payload of 150 ton. 24 such needs to be procured. If such proves too costly, at least its 17 IL-76MD's need to be upgraded to IL-76 MKI version to add to its 6 IL-76 MKI.
To complement the 11 C-17 Globemaster III, can't India order 9 more used C-17 with good airframe life and new engines?
While there is time, India should order 8 more C-130J tactical transport aircraft.
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Can't we integrate American engines with il76/78 ?
Kya hum usa se kuch second hand c17 nhi kharid skte negotiation krke?
A400 Grizzly aircraft is the answer!
❤
C17 ki technology purchase kr lye
France unveiled it's Aarok male uav
Because of Parts
Kya purana c17 nahi mil sakta kisi dusre airforce se
Fortunately Chinese force admit it and solve it early by developing own aircraft..!!
China have hevy investment on il76thy got its from ukrain and reverse engineering them in there country India should buy chines il76spare part from chiana Russia cannot supply spare part of such old cargo il76
C-5M SUPER GALAXY
Simple solution refit new engine and cockpit
Our bureaucracy is so short sighted.. i hate it..
C 130 kya h!!!??
100% TOT mil mil bhi jaye maya Russian plane ka engine ka issue for bhi rahega
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Why don't we go for c5?
How many of our airfield are able to take them specially in forward areas
Lots of people pushing US fighters and heavy lift aircraft anyone willing to raise taxes to pay for them
1 OPTION COULD BE C7 GALEXY ,BUT ITS A BIGGER AIRCRAFT
also out of production
A 400M is also an option
Indian Air force buy C-5 GALAXY
We should develop our owm
We should get new Il76 now
Why we can buy medium payloader cargo plane with reliable engins with payload of 30tonns😮