Pure Aero 98 vs Pure Drive 98 | Racket Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2023
- My thoughts on the two 98's from Babolat's latest. I do have a preference!
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It’s just like you say. The aerodynamic beam allows for a more vertical path. Then it could be combined with a stiffer, more powerful frame and more open string pattern density.
The Pure Drive Original, and Woofer gen, before the Team in early 2000s, were even flexier at 64-65ra. It made a more linear order. So then the Aero on the extreme side of power and spin would make sense. The most help from the frame. I believe it’s marketing that influenced
Great review buddy. I just feel they nailed the Aero this time around and with so many of the young guns using the stick it has our attention and respect. On another point man I was surprised with the shift 18x20... now thinking it may be my blade pro 18x20 successor. I have a bunch of sticks you have not reviewed on the Wilson line if you want I can send them to you to review in the future.
Thank you! I'm a fan of the pure aero series this go around as well! I think I made that pretty clear in my videos. I might pick the standard one just because I'm so bias towards the denser spacing but there are things to like about both which make picking tricky.
Wow that is cool! I'm still getting to know the shift but I'm liking it a lot. Zero is still holding up in there all too well haha.
That would be really cool of you and I appreciate the offer! However I pretty much have all access to most rackets especially current ones.
What do you find about the shift that makes it challenge the blade?
VS is Not Versus
VS was the word Babolat started using their for their best gut string since from 80 years or so ago... Eventually they are similarly using VS for their top of the line special racquets compared to their regular counterparts... Aero, Drive, Strike....
I think you are correct after doing some research in the direction of what you are saying. Funny history with that name or label, isn't it?
@@time410s Now I want VS of everything..... My mind thinks it stands for VERY SUPERIOR.
Time for some VS Beer!
Vastly Superior? That's got a ring to it.
got my hands on a pro stock VS control from 99’ this past year. Such a fun racket
How does the Shift 300 compare with these rackets, the Vcore 98 and Pure Aero?
Is the Shift a quality racket?
Shift is very quality for sure. I hope that is still true for the official line up. I think they are being tighter on quality control so they get more consistent feedback on these pre-release rackets. I want to confirm this with somebody but it may be hard to do that.
It's definitely closer to the spin levels of a pure error than vcore 98. Although it's feel might be somewhere in between. It's got it's own thing going on but those are interesting comparisons to bring in but I think my answer is pretty on point.
What's the RA on the Pure Drive 98? I've seen 4 different retailers list 4 different RA. 63, 67, 70, & 74. So which is it? Or did all these retailers get different batches?
Funny. I don't know! I recall seeing mixed reviews. Babolat lists their own measurements but maybe tw measurea their own. Dunno about the rest.
They're probably ALL correct! I have watched about every review on this racquet I could find on RUclips and it's clear that Babolat's specs are ALL OVER the place! Also swingweights differing 30 points on a regular Pure Drive, to name something ridiculous. So I'm not surprised they would all list different RAs...
The Pure Drive 98 is the most powerful 98, with the FX500 Tour from Dunlop a very close #2, according to Tennis Warehouse's tests, once adjusted for swingweight. In other words, if you string them identically and lead up all the 98s to the same swingweight, the PD98 and FX500 Tour return the most energy to the ball. But it's not by a huge amount: the Blade v6, Radical MP, Pure Strike 16x19, Boom Pro, and Ezone 98 are very close (basically, they are all tied for #3). And they are far from as powerful as the Pure Drive 100. The PD98 does have a very open 16x19 pattern, almost identical to the pattern of the Blade Pro 16x19 (H22) (my main current racket) or Solinco Whiteout (the latter of which is also pretty powerful), but it's a very different hitting experience because it feels stiffer. I had the same reaction as you: solid, spinny, powerful racket but not something that specifically enhances any one aspect of one's game. The power is greater but the control is lesser than the Blade Pro, Blade v6, or Whiteout. That tradeoff doesn't work for me but it probably does work for many people.
Interesting points, thanks for sharing! I suppose the idea that it takes the edge off, as I say, of the pure drive 100 is the best way to put it maybe.
Not entirely surprised the pure drive 98 is ranked as the most powerful. I might have guessed these on 98 is up there but they all seem pretty close then. I do feel I'm able to hit through the ball harder on the EZONE 98 but that probably has to do with other things making it seem more powerful than the Pure Drive 98 in stock form, which flops a little before I really get much power and drive from it.
@@time410s Yes, so much is dependent on the sensation of control. The Ezone 98 is only about 2% less powerful than the PD98 depending on what part of the stringbed is tested, so if you feel more confident with the Ezone, you'll easily swing that much faster. And of course a well-placed shot at 98 mph would be better than an wild hit at 100 mph. Raw statistics are interesting, at least to me because I am a math nerd, but I fully admit that they don't translate well to playability.
I think that's enough data you could make really great guesses and suggestions but you need to be able to assign numbers and graphs not only for the rackets and every variable of string and tension but something similar for the player and how they hit. But even then people are so subjective with what they like. Like how some days the same exact bracket can feel terrible for some reason a few days later. That doesn't really happen to me anymore but I remember sometimes it could.
The numbers can get too in your head but so can anything, right? The human struggle, especially for those who overthink.
Hey! What happened to the Blade 104 that you picked up? I was thinking of getting one but I'm curious on why your stopped using yours. Also which rackets do you think have the biggest sweet spot and are light/powerful? I need something for my lil sister in high school.
I made a short on why but not a video. I could try linking you but lmk if you want that. It's a bit of a story...
I plan to make a video on what brought me back to standard length from extended.
Oh and for your sis I honestly thought the pure drive 98 would be solid for a wide range even beginner. I don't really like suggesting those 105-110 inch rackets that are light and head heavy
Honestly that 104 might be a solid suggestion as well.
Here's the short ruclips.net/user/shortsXmoDB4J1m54?feature=share
please clarify a doubt, what is the difference between Aero VS 2020 and Aero VS 2021? Are they different rackets? it seems that one has stiffness 67 and one 70, is that it?
I believe the older one was also lighter in balance or swingweight. Really never see thoes around anymore.
Is the Pure Aero Plus in any realm of the question? It’s not talked about very often but I’ve heard some say they like the power and spin of it but I was hoping to get your opinion!
Interesting question! I think I'd be more likely to go EZONE 98 plus anyway than the Pure Aero but back in the day when I was trying to find the perfect extended length, this one might have caught my eye because the pattern is more dense than previous versions.
@@time410s So would you say it’s strictly personal preference? I’m an advanced player but not sure which direction to head
@@time410s I guess what I’m trying to figure out is I know you really like the EZONE 98, but is it just personal preference or something else that keeps you from using the EZONE 98+
It's a few things and I mean to make a video on it. Extended length frames have weight taken out especially around the 3 and 9 area. So at net, volleys can seem really floppy.
An EZONE 98 plus still tempts me just a bit but you essentially increase swingweight from length but actually get a less stable racket and at net that kind of just sucks. Baseline, you can make a case for either direction, positive or negative. That's more subjective.
@@time410s I see. I’m actually watching your “Why Extended Rackets Are Not Popular” video from about a year ago now lol. Thanks man
What about flat serves with aero 98?
It does them well. The racket is stable enough to hit a flat ball well! I wouldn't say it is the speciality of this racket but it can absolutely hit them well. Better than the PD 98.
Why aren't you using your favorite string for this comparison, the restring zero. I found a similar 6 sided blue string on Tennis Warehouse called the Diadem Solstice Power. Could both strings be from the same manufacturer?
I don't always string it up in the rackets I demo since my time with them might be short and I may not like the racket enough to consider switching. But, I know hyper G well enough that I can still be very objective about my observations.
Also, I am not sure but I somewhat doubt it. Even if it is, though, there are several factories that make many different brands of strings and they generally are very secretive about the formulas and process between brands so that one brand can't just make another's string.
That all being said, the Solstice Power is a decent string but for sure doesn't come anywhere close to the snapback Zero offers. It does seem on par with strings like Tour Bite and so on, however.
@@time410s So in terms of overall playability, would you rank the Zero as good or better than any other poly currently on the market? Thanks for getting back to me so quick!
I'd say better. Absolutely. It actually holds tension extremely well and the fact it retains insane snapback characteristics throughout the entire lifespan of the string, the playability remains very predictable for a very long time.
I've never really experienced anything like that and I've tried a TON of strings.
@@time410s You know, that's the one thing that's always bothered me the most about polys. They immediately start notching and before you know it the strings are locked in and the snap back effect is gone, I call it the notch and lock. What's your racket of choice right now?
That's another thing about restring, there's so much reduction in friction that the strings really don't eat into themselves. It's incredible what that formula achieves and it doubles the durability.
Racket to beat is the EZONE 98. The Shift 315 might have a shot. Still testing. Am curious about the pure strike 18x20 but yet to develop much thought besides I see potential.
Do we know for sure about the stiffness with the PD98? I’ve seen sources that say it’s mid 60s but the Babolat catalogue says 74 lol
Unstrung vs. strung. Babolat uses unstrung and retailers usually measures after strung. Stringing reduces stiffness a lot
@@ZimingXie it’s usually only 2-3 points, not 10
How dies the Shift 300 compare with these two rackets? Spin, control and comfort?
Isn't that wild? I was wondering if there were typos or something somewhere.
@@ZimingXie could be this.
how would u compare the aero 98 to the purestrike
To the 18x20 pure strike? They are almost nothing alike actually!
@@time410s What about Pure Strike 16x19? I kinda like the stiffness of the PAVS more than PA98. I've been looking for something like PAVS, but it's nowhere to be found where I live
Pure strike vs review??
I could. It's not high on my list but I am a little curious. Doesn't seem to be a very popular racket and I find the pattern to be more open than I like so I wouldn't switch to it anyway.
"VS" goes back a long way and pretty sure has nothing to do with the latin Versus. Babolat used to have the logo VS painted on strings during the wooden racquet era. Some people have joked saying in stands for "Very Special". Their strings are definitely very special. Their racquets, mhhhh.
Interesting. I didn't know there's a deeper history to VS. I wonder if someone somewhere can chime in on this. It was what I said because they came out with these selling matched pairs when I first heard of it.
@@time410s I'm presuming the amount of bad press on their abysmal QC made them come up with it ... Shame they can't just do it as part of their good business ethics. As regards VS, I don't know of anyone who really knows what it stands for or its history so I'd be interested to find out too.
To see things from the other side, I can imagine how difficult it is to manufacture rackets with great consistency and still pay everybody enough to do it and have money left over for ad campaigns and major sponsorship contracts such as for Nadal and so on. Yonex is an interesting case. Culturally they just have a high standard for quality control but they also probably reduce some costs by doing all of this in house.
But in the end I do imagine making a Yonex frame costs more than making a babolat frame. Even though the prices for the consumer are relatively the same, the costs for the companies are pretty different.
@@Rui_Dias_ Fab piece of history. Much appreciated :)
Awesome! Maybe I'll run this by my channel but is there more proof? Or at least how do you know this?
If the pure drive 98 is easier on the arm then im not going to wven try the aero because I have the pd 98, and it's extremely unforgiving on miss hits for pain. Gets the ball over on miss hits but with consequences.
Hmmm IDK that it is. But if you like spinny power rackets the Dunlop SX series is extremely comfortable and I switched to it. Latest video on why
@@time410s I think balanced weight rackets instead of HL lets say 5-7 pts, and are stiff just don't agree with me. I think the pro staff is far less unforgiving then the PD 98 and I wonder if I got the PD with plus 7 RA. It's just crazy how off center hits rattle my arm with this stick. I've dropped the tension, gut to 50 and Alu power at 48 and it still bad. Any lower and it's impossible to keep on center shots. My experience anyway.
I'll take a look at the SX. I'm always checking out the extreme tour. See how it goes
@user-kb4tn5tu1u I get ya! I've never really had racket issues but I can definitely appreciate the difference in comfort. The SX is actually shockingly soft, I still don't quite understand it. A lot of people say this as well. It's not a super common racket so it's just not something you hear about.
My video touches on that. Yeah lmk if you try!
Yamaha Secret 04 Stiffest of them all RA 80
That's crazy. Yamaha would make racquets lol
@@time410s ruclips.net/video/27PhJb0RLNw/видео.htmlsi=1q7-Q7UJ6nUmt7Up