@@jamesjohnson6309 &, one nearly interesting shit about that already shit, is how your follow-up to that follow-up, gave me the hiccups for...hell, idontreallyknow..at least a minute+½(or aprox abouts).
"You know, those things will kill you" Lanegan, after likely having done his morning shot plus another before this interview: "....been Told that." Also, Mike Johnson looks like he's about sick of sitting next to Lanegan. Those two had Many falling outs.
@@theinsidecyclist The book makes clear he despised promotional work, the Conner brothers, the lyrics he was forced to sing, traveling, the fans and nearly everything else. He just wanted to be left alone with enough money to score dope a few times a day.
@@DizGuys I like how couple of days after his death you come here just to shit on him. Even if he was a douche back in the day he changed for the better so let the man rest in peace.
@@aleksastamenkovic5526 I don't know him personally (do you?) so I can't shit on him, I referred to how he comes across. I like his music and have seen him live plenty of times...still seems here, (and from his memoir) like a grade A wanker.
@@stella-vu8vh yes I do as a matter of fact. May seem odd to someone like you who thinks they understand how all humans on earth function. Not just in old pre-cellular videos do I sense it but in the major metropolis city where I live if I go to the outskirts where there are little to no towers I feel it too. I grew up pre-cell towers, there was wholeheartedly a calmer much less frenetic vibe to everything. I apologize for feeling something you dont understand tho, its my fault obviously.
After reading Mark's book and knwoing how much he hated Screaming Trees first lyrics I think he died when the guy told him "lyrically the album is not a lot different". lol
MTV was not known for their artistic evaluations. While I don't think Lee Conner's lyrics were nearly as bad as Lanegan seemed to think, there's no question that even in Lanegan's infancy as an original songwriter, he blew Lee out of the water in terms of the sheer magnitude and memorable nature of his lyrics. Whiskey for the Holy Ghost was his attempt at a "masterpiece" record, and had Lanegan died in 1997 instead of going to rehab for the first time, that's likely what it would be viewed as today. Fortunately he lived another 25 great years and we got Bubblegum, Blues Funeral, Gargoyle and Somebody's Knocking. All of which I'd call masterpieces.
I've performed House a Home many times at solo gigs and I always would get the question after my set.."Who was that song by , you sang about a home?" Love that album Take care Mark.
I distinctly remember watching this when it originally aired as an 18 year old and laughing at what a tool Largent the MTV interviewer was. I will always fondly hold this time as a high water mark of the real early alternative era.
two diferent personalities ,ones doesn´t have nothing to do with other and have both recordings ,one was more popular and on L.S.D. other not so popular and heroin was his thing not L.S.D. there are videos where you can watch them in their lives and compare ,jim morrison videos when released on dvd were cut off for the nudity that again become a tabu
Was this before or after Kurt and Kristen died? Because if this was only shortly after, it would definitely explain his passiveness. I know from his book that he never enjoyed doing promotional work though. Also, I don't get why people talk so shitty about him, I can clearly see that he'd had to be a pain in the ass for anyone that worked with him during his active addiction, but especially in later Interviews, I find him so refreshingly authentic, down to earth and self reflected.
@@nelele ahh, I'm so used to seeing 'Kurt and Courtney", that went over my head.. According to another version of this video on youtube, the interview was February 13, 1994 -- so before Kurt's suicide.
Mark Lanegan is one of the true geniuses of the Seattle sound. A very unique individual. Gosh, this interviewer is trying so hard to be creative and sometimes he's REALLY reaching. Mark doesn't seem offended, but there are a few moments here where he's basically rolling his eyes.lol
@@WillJM81280 I mean not particularly . This is just Mark being Mark, so of course he’s probably stoned. Compared to most of the videos I’ve seen of him, he looks relatively close to sober. At least he isn’t it nodding out from smack in this video. That’s a start 🤣
Been reading Lanegan's book. Man, he was strung out for several years running including this interview. I don't think this interviewer was good, but Mark's state certainly doesn't help things.
really, what kind of question is that anyway? Whiskey for the holy ghost is an artistic masterpiece, and the guy thinks it's valid to ask if he created it because he had spare time on his hands...nothing better to do? No wonder he is annoyed at the questioning. Held it together pretty good, actually.
The raspy voice comes from heroin and all the other opiates he and Lane were consuming hahaha believe me I know from personal experience!! Been clean off the "Junk" for 10 years...that shit would make Mickey Mouses voice sound like Andre the Giants haha deep and scruffy!!
I keep coming back to this for the hilarious awkwardness. Asking why he feels the need to make solo music when he has a perfectly good day job!? Hooooo lordy.
It's interesting watching these interviews as an adult. As a kid, I always thought everyone on MTV, especially the VJs and interviewers were amazing. Watching this now, this Largent guy reminds me of an annoying boss, putting people on the spot with annoying almost insulting questions and interrupting while obtaining the answer...+ the part with the hair in the face and the "you know those things will kill ya" lol! What a joke!
Yeah, his job has gone to his head, he seems like a mouthy little arrogant twat. Mark Lanegan probably would have punched him in the face if he came at him like this in a bar 😂
120 minutes was EVERYTHING. Man, those were the days. I only remember it from the MTV2 days at the tail end, but it introduced me to so much incredible music. I’m so grateful for MTV, MTV2, SPIN magazine, and the little record store in my hometown that I used to skip middle school to hang out at. Who knows what garbage I might be listening to if not for these influences.
@@theshimmyking1514 I don’t know why you’re agitated, I’m pretty sure he was quoting it because he understood that mark was joking and he found the joke funny.
In his memoir, Sing Backwards and Weep, Mark says his heroin habit had picked up during this time and he says it substantially mellowed him out and slowed him down
Do you think whoever the interviewer is/was looks back on this and thinks: “what an asshole/clown I was.” Or do you think he’s still bullshitting himself all these years later?
The soft, shy demeanor he shows here is a great contrast to his life and music. You really wouldnt think he would be capable of smashing your face in should you piss him off
Just finished his book and I understand why he has that. Croaking heroin voice. Rest in peace Mark. I remember. Looking forward to this show when I was a kid
I didnt hear one interesting or intelligent question...just stupid comments that Mark was either embarrassed to answer or too high to care!...The interviewer is a knob!
This is a study in how to ask people stupid questions and how NOT to interview someone......this is like your little nephew gets to see you at Christmas so he asks you these types of annoying questions, poor Mark - go read Mark's Book - an amazing read Sing Backwards and Weep
Me encanta ver cómo a Mark le importaba tan poco promocionarse, hablar con el resto del mundo. Solo hablaba de él en sus canciones: Ahí es donde está la verdad.
My dad (born in 1949) who lived through the musical revolutions in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, and beyond has frequently said to me for the last 30 years how he sometimes wishes he was my age (born 1975) so he could’ve been coming of age in the 90s…he just says that though he went through some of the most historically significant times in music and cultural history the 90s just seems to be different. You weren’t wrong dad…you damn sure weren’t wrong!!
I just love Mark’s chilled disposition, and how very intimidating he was to the interviewer! I believe it was rumored that he quit, not long after this interview. Way do go Mark Lanegan! I just love him!!! 🤗❤️
Why tf would you give someone props for intimidating a guy trying to do his job, whoch is mainly to promote the guys being interviewed?! Weird. I like Lanegans music, but he seemed like an asshole.
Don't get me wrong- I like ML and this interviewer seems a douche, but I highly doubt dude quit his job because of the after effects of fear of a long haired junkie.
@@gerardgibbons3456 In the process of reading his book, and you’re absolutely right. Can’t say I blame him for taking offense to that, he’s a brilliant artist and an authentic individual.
Lanegan May take it as an insult but the vibe is totally there. I know as much about Morrison as any average person can, meaning I never knew him but have read and watched everything that I can about him. I am a huge lanegan fan and the vibe is def there even tho I know it’s totally unintentional
Atta boy, he’s promoting his solo album and you keep pushing him on screaming trees. If this guy had any idea of who he was dealing with he would be terrified.
A fascinating case study of a person who doesn't want to talk to another person.
Lol indeed
@Ronald McDonaldtrump also mark hates interviews in general
Haha spot on
Mark Lanegan: if you ask me one more silly ass question I’m beating the 💩 out of you
Make that three people that don't want to talk to another person!
thanks for posting!!
Such a nice MTV time...
feb. 22th, same day..
Interviewer:
Wants to ask questions
Lanegan:
Wants more heroin
They just couldn’t get on the same page for the one. Painful to watch that interview. Total cluster fuck
Stay off the drugs kids or you'll all sound like these guys talking with zero emotions. lol
Stay off drugs and you'll end up like the interviewer in this video. Better go do some more drugs then
No wonder they never made it
They made a living making music seems like they made it to me
He already used up his 75 words per day limit.
@Mariana D'Amelio haha it made me laugh too
@Mariana D'Amelio your follow up comment 2 years later made me howl
@@jamesjohnson6309 &, one nearly interesting shit about that already shit, is how your follow-up to that follow-up, gave me the hiccups for...hell, idontreallyknow..at least a minute+½(or aprox abouts).
I needed the laugh these comments gave me.
Sounds like a comment that only an asshole would make.
We love this man. RIP Mark, you beautiful soul.
Never would have I imagined J Mascis would be the most talkative guy in an interview.
"You know, those things will kill you"
Lanegan, after likely having done his morning shot plus another before this interview: "....been Told that."
Also, Mike Johnson looks like he's about sick of sitting next to Lanegan. Those two had Many falling outs.
LOL
after reading Mark’s memoirs the answers he gives to the hosts questions make soooo much more sense.
Hey I read it but didn't draw the link...can you kindly elaborate for me to jog my memory? was an amazing read....a little depressing really.
@@theinsidecyclist The book makes clear he despised promotional work, the Conner brothers, the lyrics he was forced to sing, traveling, the fans and nearly everything else. He just wanted to be left alone with enough money to score dope a few times a day.
@@AFaceintheCrowd01 yeh, he comes across as a selfish asshole
@@DizGuys I like how couple of days after his death you come here just to shit on him. Even if he was a douche back in the day he changed for the better so let the man rest in peace.
@@aleksastamenkovic5526 I don't know him personally (do you?) so I can't shit on him, I referred to how he comes across. I like his music and have seen him live plenty of times...still seems here, (and from his memoir) like a grade A wanker.
its so strange, pre-smartphone everything was so much calmer, you can actually feel the lack of cellular signals
Yes, but also Mark is literally on heroin
Rob Littlemore 🤣🤣🤣
Ha right less triangulation of Weaponized frequencies
what, do you walk around feeling the cell phone towers coursing thru ur veins? sheeesh.
@@stella-vu8vh yes I do as a matter of fact. May seem odd to someone like you who thinks they understand how all humans on earth function. Not just in old pre-cellular videos do I sense it but in the major metropolis city where I live if I go to the outskirts where there are little to no towers I feel it too. I grew up pre-cell towers, there was wholeheartedly a calmer much less frenetic vibe to everything. I apologize for feeling something you dont understand tho, its my fault obviously.
Marks book Sing backwards and weep is one of the most intense music bio's I have ever read.
After reading Mark's book and knwoing how much he hated Screaming Trees first lyrics I think he died when the guy told him "lyrically the album is not a lot different". lol
MTV was not known for their artistic evaluations. While I don't think Lee Conner's lyrics were nearly as bad as Lanegan seemed to think, there's no question that even in Lanegan's infancy as an original songwriter, he blew Lee out of the water in terms of the sheer magnitude and memorable nature of his lyrics. Whiskey for the Holy Ghost was his attempt at a "masterpiece" record, and had Lanegan died in 1997 instead of going to rehab for the first time, that's likely what it would be viewed as today.
Fortunately he lived another 25 great years and we got Bubblegum, Blues Funeral, Gargoyle and Somebody's Knocking. All of which I'd call masterpieces.
Well... By then Mark has already contributed with a lot of the lyrics in the last album of screaming trees at that moment: Sweet oblivion
Back when you could smoke indoors...I remember watching this 25 years ago!
I've performed House a Home many times at solo gigs and I always would get the question after my set.."Who was that song by , you sang about a home?" Love that album Take care Mark.
I distinctly remember watching this when it originally aired as an 18 year old and laughing at what a tool Largent the MTV interviewer was. I will always fondly hold this time as a high water mark of the real early alternative era.
I distinctly remember watching this (as an 18 year old) when it originally aired
wrong - lanegan was being a douchebag - if you don't wanna do interviews then don't. I love mark but he's an asshole here
Agreed, the interviewer is awful, MTV had a knack for putting shitty talent in their "alternative" slots, like Kennedy.
Ha Ha!!!!
i think the height of the alterantive era was 1992/93/94, and ending around 98/99 sadly
Mark reminds me of Jim Morrison. A reluctant, self-destructive rock star. Although Mark did outlive him by alot. RIP
hahaha. I just read his book and he mentioned several times he hates that comparison
two diferent personalities ,ones doesn´t have nothing to do with other and have both recordings ,one was more popular and on L.S.D. other not so popular and heroin was his thing not L.S.D. there are videos where you can watch them in their lives and compare ,jim morrison videos when released on dvd were cut off for the nudity that again become a tabu
Glad I’m not the only one who thought this!…
🦋
impossible to deny the similarity. look, voice, several doorsy songs. its not an insult i don't know why it would be.
That was painful
RIP Mark, and RIP MTV…
Lanegan must have had a good hit before coming on.
Was this before or after Kurt and Kristen died? Because if this was only shortly after, it would definitely explain his passiveness. I know from his book that he never enjoyed doing promotional work though. Also, I don't get why people talk so shitty about him, I can clearly see that he'd had to be a pain in the ass for anyone that worked with him during his active addiction, but especially in later Interviews, I find him so refreshingly authentic, down to earth and self reflected.
Kristen who?
@@matteframe Kristen Pfaff, bassist of Hole, she died only shortly after Kurt Cobain and I think she and Mark were about to date when that happened
@@nelele ahh, I'm so used to seeing 'Kurt and Courtney", that went over my head..
According to another version of this video on youtube, the interview was February 13, 1994 -- so before Kurt's suicide.
@@matteframe interesting... well I guess it was just his usual (heroin fuelled) passiveness at that time. I love that guy nonetheless haha
It was before.
They were still making the Tom Waits comp even back in 94 😂
Back then he'd have rather heard that than Jim Morrison. That was the first major comparison people made.
@@jetcheneau5811he has a very Morrison style of singing but he sounds better than Jim
Mark Lanegan is one of the true geniuses of the Seattle sound. A very unique individual. Gosh, this interviewer is trying so hard to be creative and sometimes he's REALLY reaching. Mark doesn't seem offended, but there are a few moments here where he's basically rolling his eyes.lol
Interviewer is a fucking idiot
Well that and Mark is high as balls too.
@@WillJM81280 I mean not particularly . This is just Mark being Mark, so of course he’s probably stoned. Compared to most of the videos I’ve seen of him, he looks relatively close to sober. At least he isn’t it nodding out from smack in this video. That’s a start 🤣
@@larkinh1
As is Mark. Look like a fucking moron unable to comprehend a simple question.
Acting. Pretending.
Eef yew mayke aye faurt wyle yew goe peapea, eet weel cume owt ov thee ducke's but
So minimalist and fucking hilarious.
Been reading Lanegan's book. Man, he was strung out for several years running including this interview. I don't think this interviewer was good, but Mark's state certainly doesn't help things.
Liked the story with layne.
What is the book called please
@@jolo2331 sing backwards and weep. there is also an audiobook read by himself :)
That happens a lot with Rachtman.
@@davidleewrath6919 not rikki Rachman but he does have a strong resemblance
Well, this was awkward.
He is deep in his hero in addiction here,
4:07 Mike and Mark are having fun pulling the interviewer's leg. Mike grew up in southern and central Oregon (hundreds of miles from Ellensburg, WA).
It’ wasn’t so much the Seattle sound, or grunge…It should be renamed the Opiate Sound.
just when you couldn't think it was possible for the interview to get more awkward J mascis shows up lol
He just saunters on in.
LOL
Back when Empty-V featured good music.
In 3 years you're gonna be Tom Waits, LOL :))))
Damn. The interviewer is dead
all 3 are super human song writers and music men but not the best at talking about things. like pulling teeth
Three individuals who would rather be doing ANYTHING except an interview. J is my hero and I've modeled my conversational skills after him haha.
They were more than eager to be there, this was just them being too cool
RIP Mark Lanegan. I still can't believe he's gone...
really, what kind of question is that anyway? Whiskey for the holy ghost is an artistic masterpiece, and the guy thinks it's valid to ask if he created it because he had spare time on his hands...nothing better to do? No wonder he is annoyed at the questioning. Held it together pretty good, actually.
Awful interviewer. Must be dads production company.
The interviewer is so annoying 🙄! RIP Mark! 🖤🥀
Lewis Largent, the host, passed away this past year (2023) from a lengthy illness.
Looks like a young Joe rogan from the 90s with long hair that never lifted weights.. could be brothers
Oh interviewer, sweetie, you tried your best. lmao.
You sure about that kate ...jk I'm sure it's a very difficult job trying to interview rock stars
he did great
Jeez, this is painful to watch. This represents exactly what Cobain was mad at.
The raspy voice comes from heroin and all the other opiates he and Lane were consuming hahaha believe me I know from personal experience!! Been clean off the "Junk" for 10 years...that shit would make Mickey Mouses voice sound like Andre the Giants haha deep and scruffy!!
One of the greatest voices of his generation.
Oh yeah 👍
100%
Shit, of ANY generation!
these guys come across as SO wrapped up in their own cool, they're too far beyond to have a normal conversation and interact.
Not really - the interviewer is pretty awkward & trying too hard.
I keep coming back to this for the hilarious awkwardness. Asking why he feels the need to make solo music when he has a perfectly good day job!? Hooooo lordy.
Came for the Lanegan stayed for the Mascis..
It's interesting watching these interviews as an adult. As a kid, I always thought everyone on MTV, especially the VJs and interviewers were amazing. Watching this now, this Largent guy reminds me of an annoying boss, putting people on the spot with annoying almost insulting questions and interrupting while obtaining the answer...+ the part with the hair in the face and the "you know those things will kill ya" lol! What a joke!
Yeah, his job has gone to his head, he seems like a mouthy little arrogant twat. Mark Lanegan probably would have punched him in the face if he came at him like this in a bar 😂
There's a great Mr. Show sketch that parodies this precise dynamic of MTV interviewers talking to musicians who resent talking to MTV interviewers.
The real lasting legacy of Seattle in the 80s and 90s
120 minutes was EVERYTHING. Man, those were the days. I only remember it from the MTV2 days at the tail end, but it introduced me to so much incredible music. I’m so grateful for MTV, MTV2, SPIN magazine, and the little record store in my hometown that I used to skip middle school to hang out at. Who knows what garbage I might be listening to if not for these influences.
that is one of the most awkward interviews! 🙄
Mark reminds me of a 90's era Jim Morrison.
MTV just hired some of the worst possible hosts that asked the most awful questions. Mark hated this 😂
Is it a good thing or bad thing?
Takes draw from cigarette. ..
Awesome!
"Looking good is it's own reward"
Ah shut up mark was fucked up and strung out
@@theshimmyking1514 I don’t know why you’re agitated, I’m pretty sure he was quoting it because he understood that mark was joking and he found the joke funny.
@@swampshack1018 I think so too
Methinks Mark is stoned in this interview
In his memoir, Sing Backwards and Weep, Mark says his heroin habit had picked up during this time and he says it substantially mellowed him out and slowed him down
As soon as he started talking, I thought to myself,”he’s on heroin.”
Rather stoned. There is not much detail but he lacks the delayed /dragged look of a smack enthusiast. And his mimicks are too vivid in its presence.
And bored and probably insulted...the guy was completely uninformed..tool
@@warmspell7562 you should be detective hey homes?
Do you think whoever the interviewer is/was looks back on this and thinks: “what an asshole/clown I was.” Or do you think he’s still bullshitting himself all these years later?
High as kites. Hilarious.
He looks a little bit like Glenn Danzig!!!!!
The soft, shy demeanor he shows here is a great contrast to his life and music. You really wouldnt think he would be capable of smashing your face in should you piss him off
Mark was always so patient with idiotic interviewers and their stupid questions.
Jackass is like "MARK WHY DO SOLO PROJECTS EXIST COME ON"
“What??? That’s a good question!”
…right…
Mark was so hot, misterious. R.I.P...❤❤❤❤
Crazy that Lewis largent guy just died but damn he could not interview to save his life 😂😂
Oh man the 90s were so chill and friendly we needed a new word: casz, short for cas-ual. Hey can I crash here? Sure, it's all casz here, no prob
Dudes lucky mark is cool af… dude was a mtv prick
Just finished his book and I understand why he has that. Croaking heroin voice. Rest in peace Mark. I remember. Looking forward to this show when I was a kid
there's too many cool people in this interview, all trying to out-cool each other while also pretending to not give a shit
I don't get that vibe from Mark. He just never seemed comfortable in interviews in the same halting way as Hope Sandoval from Mazzy Star.
+Sold future LOL one of the most ridiculous interview clips I've seen
or ya know, theyre actually cool...
If this is cool, then I most certainly don't wanna be it
I didnt hear one interesting or intelligent question...just stupid comments that Mark was either embarrassed to answer or too high to care!...The interviewer is a knob!
This is a study in how to ask people stupid questions and how NOT to interview someone......this is like your little nephew gets to see you at Christmas so he asks you these types of annoying questions, poor Mark - go read Mark's Book - an amazing read Sing Backwards and Weep
Man he’s sitting Indian style like a little kid lol
Me encanta ver cómo a Mark le importaba tan poco promocionarse, hablar con el resto del mundo. Solo hablaba de él en sus canciones: Ahí es donde está la verdad.
Amazing álbum but BORRACHO song OMG, fucking love it since then.
Second segment, Lewis is trying to be flirty and clever in his questions to Mark - what a knob.
HAHAHAAA Little Mister Zealously Overeager Interviewer really tried to give Lanegan '94 shit about smoking??? Did he think this had been going well???
He hated being compared to tom waits lol
My dad (born in 1949) who lived through the musical revolutions in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, and beyond has frequently said to me for the last 30 years how he sometimes wishes he was my age (born 1975) so he could’ve been coming of age in the 90s…he just says that though he went through some of the most historically significant times in music and cultural history the 90s just seems to be different. You weren’t wrong dad…you damn sure weren’t wrong!!
Chatty interview, haha. Rip Mark, what a legend
maybe lewis wasn't cool enough to shoot up with lanegan and finish it off with a crack chaser - grow up cool guy.
I'm from ellensburg Washington that's awesome to hear Mike say if he grew up in Washington and says ellensburg 04:17
what's it like there? I'm from Michigan
Mike's from Oregon out near Medford. He was totally making the Ellensburg thing up that's why Mark laughed.
@@rsohlich1 small, windy,rodeos and nice community
@@burnlastsunday lol nice!
@@zapatista39 thanks for the reply
I never forget all records of Mark ,especially song dedicated to Kurt "River Rise " Farewell Brother
Talk about awkward lol
I just love Mark’s chilled disposition, and how very intimidating he was to the interviewer! I believe it was rumored that he quit, not long after this interview. Way do go Mark Lanegan! I just love him!!! 🤗❤️
Why tf would you give someone props for intimidating a guy trying to do his job, whoch is mainly to promote the guys being interviewed?! Weird. I like Lanegans music, but he seemed like an asshole.
Don't get me wrong- I like ML and this interviewer seems a douche, but I highly doubt dude quit his job because of the after effects of fear of a long haired junkie.
“Chilled”
Who else gets a Jim Morrison vibe from Mark Lanegan ?
Do not say that to Lanegan...he’ll hunt you down
@@gerardgibbons3456 In the process of reading his book, and you’re absolutely right. Can’t say I blame him for taking offense to that, he’s a brilliant artist and an authentic individual.
Lanegan May take it as an insult but the vibe is totally there. I know as much about Morrison as any average person can, meaning I never knew him but have read and watched everything that I can about him. I am a huge lanegan fan and the vibe is def there even tho I know it’s totally unintentional
Both sagittarius for what it's worth
He reminds me of Lou Reed...
Too cool for school
Looking back it's hard to believe how bad the "VJ's" were on MTV.
The whole interview is boring and forced. Background music would have helped a lot !
We love you forever mark RIP
RIP Mark. Have to say the interviewer deserved all the evasion he got. Such a missed opportunity.
MTV always had the worst interviewers in those days, but it made for some pretty awkward interactions that are still worth watching to this day.
It’s interesting that some musicians complain about record companies not promoting their albums, when they seem incapable of doing it themselves.
ha, j's the most talkative one
Rip underrated talent
Mark always looked confused and annoyed in this interview. It's funny to watch 😂
Mark's voice gives me chills. He's amazing 😊
Atta boy, he’s promoting his solo album and you keep pushing him on screaming trees. If this guy had any idea of who he was dealing with he would be terrified.
"looking good is it's own reward.."
nice!