PNTV: Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman (#8)
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Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman. Optimism, optimism, optimism. If we want to live an extraordinary life, we've gotta develop our ability to shape our minds. In this episode, we're going to take a quick look at Martin Seligman's great book "Learned Optimism" and some science on how to get our optimism on! Hope you enjoy!
Hey - came back to watch this again - I read the book after watching this years ago. Great book and great video. Also - really cool to see how far you have come with video quality and that you built something awesome around this with the Optimize program
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Martin Seligman tortured dogs in reprehensible experiments. I don't care what good he is doing now, it'll never make up for the evil he's done. He should be in prison.
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I did some research into it and although I by no means wish to change your mind, I found this post by Seligman that sparks tough questions in my mind about the justification of less ethical testing:
"Forty years ago, several dozen dogs got 64 brief shocks that were moderately painful. From the knowledge that was gained, depression was relieved for hundreds of thousands of people. Inflicting pain on animals or humans in medical experiments can only be justified if it is likely that the knowledge gained will eliminate vastly more suffering."
www.thedp.com/article/2008/08/martin_seligman_data_that_opens_countless_doors_counterpoint
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OPTIMIZE the question is whether it is moral to torture conscious animals.
I can vouch for the correlation between helplessness and depression. That's exactly what started my depression and still effects me to a degree. . .Great vid by the way.
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I'm sure this is a great book, but how ironic that in the selfish pursuit of our own happiness, we find it quite acceptable to torture other being in experiments. We won't be truly empowered until we have compassion and act on it.
Nice one Julie! Agreed!
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I really liked this review as it is exactly what I have been looking for. Short , clear and natural. Well explained.
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Wow, just wow. This video has really opened my mind about me.
Great to hear Steve!
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"One of the biggest discoveries in the last 20 years is that we choose the way we think." - Wasn't that what Alfred Adler was saying 100+ years ago?
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Poor dogs. That's sad... perhaps a more ethical experiment is called for.
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Is listening to this as I drive sufficient? Or taking notes on all these videos needed? I just want all this information so much good stuff but I don't want to forget have to remember to apply intelligence/wisdom
Steven Nelloc I think the key is to find ways to practice applying your favorite Ideas!
+Steven Nelloc A steady stream of reminders is what works for me. I put signs up around my house, work office, and in my car, and I watch these videos daily. Writing about them is a good way to form memories, too. Share these ideas with other people because, as they say, he who teaches learns.
What happened to the bastard who shocked the dogs? How cruel.
Edward Shore You know what Ed, you'll definitely benefit from this book. I'd recommend you read this on wiki first- . Seligman invites pessimists to learn to be optimists by thinking about their reactions to adversity in a new way. The resulting optimism-one that grew from pessimism-is a learned optimism. The optimist's outlook on failure can thus be summarized as "What happened was an unlucky situation (not personal), and really just a setback (not permanent) for this one, of many, goals (not pervasive)".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_optimism
Good luck!
Chetan Pinto The theory and studies might be beneficial. However, the torturing of dogs doesn't make me feel optimistic at all.
Is it ok to torture someone else in order to gain well being? Is that how happy optimistic society looks like? Learning how to be happy by torturing innocent animals?
Learned helplessness is something that I knew way before I was familiar with Dr. Seligman and his work. I didn't know the term but I learned it from my own experience (was in depression for many years). Figuring it out is not a rocket science and you don't have to torture dogs in order to understand it. Interviewing a bunch of depressed people can do the job.
Dr Seligman preaches about optimism and happiness while causing suffering to others. He learned the value of optimism by torturing others. That fact makes me very pessimistic.
Shpitzyl L Again, I'd recommend you read this on wiki first- . Seligman invites pessimists to learn to be optimists by thinking about their reactions to adversity in a new way. The resulting optimism-one that grew from pessimism-is a learned optimism. The optimist's outlook on failure can thus be summarized as "What happened was an unlucky situation (not personal), and really just a setback (not permanent) for this one, of many, goals (not pervasive)".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_optimism
Chetan Pinto I think we all choose to believe what we want to!
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Your are very good at explaining. You got the main points of this book.Great!
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Brilliant, some wonderful insight that I can use in a research paper! Thank you for existing.
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How many books have u read ?! :)
Ragzy M I'm not sure! Quite a few. hehe. Here are some of my favorites: brianjohnson.me/philosophersnotes/the-books/
Do u have a top 10? :))
Ragzy M :) That page has my top favorites for each category!! :)
***** I can't seem to find it :s
Ragzy M Go here: brianjohnson.me/philosophersnotes/the-books/ Then click on the "tags" with categories. Make sense?! Let me know and happy Monday! :)
Good summary, Brian
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great video! loved the commentary and easy to follow. im definitely going to read this book.
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Brian, you rock! Thank you for being you and for sharing!
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hey i love your vids! im just wondering if i can buy the notes in a book form?
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Great review! Very well explained and a pleasure to listen to :)
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So the message of Learned Optimism is basically, “take credit for all successes and pass the buck for all failures”?
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OPTIMIZE That doesn’t sound healthy or honest.
my most optomistic friend is also my richest friend! she prob would never think of herself as spiritual but she is also my most spiritual friend too! very in the Now.
this is great..thanks!
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thanx for sharing this with us !! I want to get that book now :D
It's a great read, Glenda!
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I have just experienced a paradigm shift.
Amazing!
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Great work man.
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Loved this.
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Excellent video
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awesome.
Thanks Diva
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