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Astonishing that such a minute adjustment can yield such a clearly audible improvement
You are on the edge of the rabbit hole I investigated during covid. Some general facts to think about are: sound travels 343m/s, 1 sample at 48k is approximately 7mm or 3.5 at 96k, a 20khz wavelength is 17mm long. Each time you nudge a sample by 1 you are effectively moving the mic away from the source by 7mm or 3.5 mm respectively at 48 or 96k. That's ¼ and⅛ wavelength at 20k. It's pretty hard to imagine the effect of comb filtering up that high but put two identical mics next to each other staggered by those distances and it's audible. Sample delays are handy but capsule alignment is even finer. To defeat the fixed sample distance with a plugin it would need to oversample a few times. I don't know if a speaker cone creates a linear pressure wave near the cone since the cone and the dust cover are concave and convex. Fluid dynamics isn't my jam.
Here is a wierd idea. Might be fun to Automate sample delay to make it gross or “ blur “ as an effect on a bar on something. But as intended that’s doing the trick.
that's such a cool idea tbh!
That section you played at 1:10 is one of the coolest chord progressions I've ever heard.
Yep! Gonna try this later this week! AWESOME! Thank you so much!
Let me know how it goes
I wouldn’t say polarity and phase are a completely different thing; they are, but they’re 100% related. If something’s in phase, flipping the polarity will make them out of phase. A trick to finding the right phase relationship is actually to flip one out of phase and then align them until it sounds like absolute garbage, then flip the phase back
Thank you!!!!!
This was crazy valuable to me. Nice work man very smart.
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Oh yes - I use the Voxengo Sample delay to get this right - and it can be a pain either way you approach it! My *main* deal for literally years was a 57 and an ADK 51 on the same speaker, moving them until they were working, and then combining onto one track as we recorded.
It's also worth noting, if someone doesn't want to use time adjuster, you can manually enter these values in the ADC field in the mix window : )
I was trying to be as DAW agnostic as possible. Some won’t do that.
@@RecordingStudioLoser oh jeez, sorry. Hadn't considered that when I commented! lol Just so used to (mostly) everyone I know being on PT haha oh well
wow, that was an Importent Video, thanks for this Jeremy
Yeah. That high end cleaned up.
Easy to overlook. Big payoff
Hey man. Ya ever tried soundradix's autoalign for this sorta stuff? Please make a video on that one! Been meaning to get one exactly for this sorta stuff cuz phase analysis is a pain.
I had the trial. It just seems expensive for something this easy
Thats nice and really noticeable on distorted guitars. Have you tried Auto Align or Eventide Precision Time Align?
I have PTA for use in negative delay. I’ve got videos on that.
Automating seems expensive for such an easy fix. I could be wrong there tho…
@@RecordingStudioLoser Yeah Im not sure Auto Align does anything special but might take some guess work out with a click of a button. But too expensive I agree. Thanks sir
Auto Align 2 does a pretty great job at this, and its lightning fast. Auto Align Post 2, in my opinion, does an even better job, but is way more expensive. You can set a reference, and make all the other mics align optimally in a few seconds. You can also turn on and off their fancy spectral phase correction manipulation thingy, which adjusts things note by note (I never turn it off because it always works for me... but I play drums, so it may be different with guitars. Its such a killer plugin that fixes a very specific problem. I used it for years and then kept adjusting my mics until AAP2 didn't have to do anything. Now my mics are set and they dont move, which works for me and what I do.
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I'm FINALLY gonna learn that One Weird Trick!!!!
Not weird, free.. cause everyone wants to use an expressive plugin to do the same thing
@@RecordingStudioLoser I totally get it! And honestly I never would’ve thought to nudge one track one sample at a time. That’s super freaking cool! But I’m also a drummer and I just don’t hear very minor differences in guitar tones the way I do drum tones. I mean, I HEAR the differences, but none of them sound better or worse to me, just different.
Hi...what´s the name of band you have recorded? They sound cool!
Josh Powell. I’ve had them on a few videos. Song releases this week
These questions are purely educational. How did you come to the conclusion that you needed to go all the way down to Sample Nudges? Weren't there other steps that could've been made before having to surgically move cycles into phase? You mentioned at the beginning that this isn't about phase but it really is. The combined frequencies from the close mics are at odds with one another despite having a tone you wanted. lol You're Phase aligning at a surgical level. Why not get different mics? Why not EQ differently after the guitars are tracked? Why not have less gain on the guitar doubles? Overall, I do appreciate and have paid attention to the fact that IF it is needed, you can go down to a microscopic level and adjust certain cycles down to a sample to fix a frequency that is clashing with a doubled track.
At the beginning I said it’s not about polarity, not phase.
Sometimes we can’t control the tracks we get. In this instance I did the best with the time I had with the band in the moment the guitars sounded good. But at the end of the day with tired ears some things
Slip through the cracks. But sometimes I’m sent tracks to mix I had no hand in recording.
Even using the same mics they can be at odds in a sample level. Phase is something you just have to deal with (or not if it’s not a problem… which sometimes it is not to be clear.). Less gain… that’s not what the bad wanted.
In the end yeah all these things you mention also work. But we cant go back to fix mistakes already made. And if this gets the job done. That’s what I have to do. And realistically it’s not difficult, nor time consuming.
I appreciate the reply man, I was curious because eventually I will have to deal with these things with other clients. Whether they be a band, a company or A/V Situation.
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That high end! Next? Low pass the f out of it hahahah😅
Jk aside, great tip, thanks for the video!
For sure. Lol. Talking starting points here. 😂
I imagine before you went through all that you tried just muting one of the mics? :)
Jeremy! Did I miss something? I thought you were going to switch DAWs
I’ve got a few years of prepaid PT licenses to go through. I’m very much planning the next move.
dude, there's a so much easier way to deal with this.
This is pretty darn easy. But my lazy side is very curious now.
Seriously interested
damn, still using pro tools?
Using up all those licenses I got.