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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @HomeStudioCorner
    @HomeStudioCorner  9 месяцев назад +5

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      @skeimor9129 9 месяцев назад

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  • @RhythmicDias
    @RhythmicDias 9 месяцев назад +38

    I love watching Joe's videos because he says "if you can't do this in your DAW, here is a workaround." Very thoughtfully done video

  • @300Spartan03
    @300Spartan03 9 месяцев назад +29

    I love adding a slap back with the slightest amount of reverb, usually a plate, just to sit the vocal in the mix and give it a sense of space and vibe. It always sounds cool especially on softer mixes

    • @ItzUnknwnX
      @ItzUnknwnX 2 месяца назад

      I like plate reverb on leads a lot

  • @BoomBoom-ci8is
    @BoomBoom-ci8is 9 месяцев назад +18

    Hands down, he is the best teacher and he keeps things easy for people to understand. Thanks for all the experience you share!

    • @rewind2play
      @rewind2play 4 месяца назад

      Can't agree, he talks way too much.. but his info is good

  • @themotownboy1
    @themotownboy1 9 месяцев назад +1

    If you don't like reverb, it is probably because you don't know how to use it. It helps to have a good artistic sense to know what works and what doesn't. Professional engineers and producers know how to use it. Often, reverb is used in conjunction with delay.

  • @markcook2980
    @markcook2980 9 месяцев назад +13

    Once again Joe...you've nailed it...it...it...it...it

  • @user-ps5to6nw3l
    @user-ps5to6nw3l 7 месяцев назад +3

    I've been doing something like that on my studio recordings for some time now. What I do, is do about a 3/4 pan to one side and then slightly delay to the other side with just a bit of reverb. Gives a nice stereo effect.

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM 9 месяцев назад +9

    Nope. I love reverb. All kinds of reverb and I put it on e everything. I like delay too but reverb is awesome and it’s making a comeback!

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  9 месяцев назад +3

      You're totally right. And I luuuuuv reverb too.

    • @marlongrawer
      @marlongrawer 4 месяца назад +2

      Bro didn't get the whole point.

  • @zacalakemusic
    @zacalakemusic 9 месяцев назад +8

    Thank you! All these years I’ve been trying to make slapback fix with 10-20 ms, I was off by a mile. Huge improvement omg kind of a humbling experience for me but so worth it. ❤

    • @julianmorrisco
      @julianmorrisco 2 месяца назад

      It’s too late for you, I’m afraid but consider the original slap was using the gap between the record and repro heads of a handy two track to give the effect most often. A machine running at 15ips wpuld give around 120-170 ms delay (depending on the manufacturer). Halve it for 30ips, double for 7.5 ips.

  • @renodigitalservice
    @renodigitalservice 9 месяцев назад +2

    And I’m set ‘cause I do have a copy of Studio One pro! This is Great 👍

  • @bizarrobrooks2301
    @bizarrobrooks2301 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks Joe I'm learning something new everyday definitely incorporating this. Much appreciated.👍

  • @whosrichpurnell3328
    @whosrichpurnell3328 9 месяцев назад +6

    A good slap back can really add dimension. One trick I’ve learned along the way is to route your Fx into your vocal bus. Makes it 100x more cohesive with very little Fx processing. But, do it only after you’ve keyed in the Fx to the best of your ability. The switch will sound amazing

    • @timspencer1
      @timspencer1 8 месяцев назад +3

      I agree. Indeed I do this with ALL of my FX sends these days. Route them back to the bus channel they are supposed to be in - rather than going directly to the Masterbus.

  • @JerryBologna
    @JerryBologna 9 месяцев назад +8

    Crowded House's "Don't Dream It's Over" makes excellent use of slapback delay on lead vocals.

  • @CharfishDesign
    @CharfishDesign 9 месяцев назад +9

    Me using reverb:
    “I’ll just low-pass all these frequencies out. Then I’ll high-pass all these frequencies out. Oh well would you look at that. All the frequencies are gone.”

  • @steveatkinson9123
    @steveatkinson9123 9 месяцев назад +2

    Cool trick, thanks, answers some of my problems on some vocal tracks.

  • @rachelraspberry1761
    @rachelraspberry1761 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is a great video. Thank you for sharing it!

  • @MattyWhens
    @MattyWhens 9 месяцев назад +15

    excellent Cash impression haha. As a shoegaze/dreampop fan, I tend to use way too much reverb in everything. I'll definitely be trying more slapback.

    • @portclaire
      @portclaire 9 месяцев назад +8

      Same here, big shoegaze/dreampop sound fan! And to be honest, at 2:00 I thought "Well that is perfect" hahahah

  • @Beejbottom1960
    @Beejbottom1960 9 месяцев назад +5

    I’ve been using 120ms slap back live for Rockabilly vocals. I love it!

  • @panorama_mastering
    @panorama_mastering 9 месяцев назад +9

    Great work! I love learning how others set-up their FX!
    One thing I do with slap-backs, parallels or reverbs; to level them; I play the whole mix with NO LEAD VOCAL; and aim to pocket time based effects into the tail/instrument bed slightly behind other driving elements almost so it meshes into the soundscape of the instruments.

    • @berkeleybernie
      @berkeleybernie 9 месяцев назад +1

      Very interesting idea, thanks.

    • @NevilleDMusicTV
      @NevilleDMusicTV 9 месяцев назад +2

      Sir, I am subscribed to your channel and I would love to see a demonstration of this concept, unless you already have a video on it?

  • @ytnewt02amgine
    @ytnewt02amgine 9 месяцев назад +3

    I just happened to run across your channel. I really enjoyed watching this video. You explain things very well so that everything is easily understood. Subscribed. Keep up the great work.

  • @cone-stone
    @cone-stone 9 месяцев назад +2

    Excelente video y consejo. Me subscribo a tu canal. Saludos desde España.

  • @Jesse615
    @Jesse615 9 месяцев назад +2

    I didn't know it was slap-back, but I concur. I pretty much put a stereo plate or tape slap on my lead vox as well!

  • @aaronsmith2611
    @aaronsmith2611 9 месяцев назад +4

    A delay effect I like to use is to have a short delay on one side and a long delay on the other side. It's kind of like what Joe did with the stereo slap back, but longer delays. It adds some nice width and a cool ethereal effect. Obviously, you wouldn't use it on everything, but in the right application, it's really nice.

  • @ThomasNorthener
    @ThomasNorthener 9 месяцев назад +2

    Pretty cool 😊 Thanks for great tips.

  • @jakelecroy5553
    @jakelecroy5553 9 месяцев назад +2

    OMG I never thought of adding the distortion after the vocal and before the delay. I'd sometimes add a little distortion to the vocal to give it more edge or a poor man's Motown clipping vibe but had I put it post vocal pre room effects I would have had much more control over the fuzz level and it would have sounded so much better. Thank you! This is a game changer! 🤘🤪🤘

  • @keithbroughton4476
    @keithbroughton4476 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have been using this delay setup on live audio for years and it works great. Band pass EQ on the delay return is very important!
    Another trick for wide stereo is to return the delay on 2 separate channels pan them hard left and right and invert the polarity on one of the channels.

  • @musicmaestrodj
    @musicmaestrodj 9 месяцев назад +11

    It's gotta be slap delay! I heard Kenny Gioia talking about it a while back in one of his tutorials, although I've been using it since the 80s. 🙂

  • @chadfayrobinson7537
    @chadfayrobinson7537 9 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy good impression !!

  • @stevecappella7358
    @stevecappella7358 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well Joe, I don't have a "go to" vocal affect because I am new to recording and Studio One. HOWEVER, I love your videos and find them very helpful tools to learning. I have to admit that I have a huge learning curve to get by, but I think with all the videos you have as well as Gregor and others, I should be able to find my way around Studio One fairly well in the (hopefully not so long) near future.
    Thanks again for your videos. I love your approach. You are very articulate with getting across the information you want to teach as well as do that with a bit of humor. Have yourself a good weekend, week, day, or whatever it is you will be having.

  • @johnb9507
    @johnb9507 Месяц назад

    In Cakewalk I used to use the Sonitus delay and set left @180 and right @220. Now that I'm learning S1 I'm glad I found this. Thanks for posting this, Joe!

  • @hannah_banana39
    @hannah_banana39 9 месяцев назад +1

    Really appreciate how detailed and informative this video was! It's very cool to get a how-to-guide for an effect as neat as this one. 👍

  • @harleymferris
    @harleymferris 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great process. I almost always try slapback on my vocals, but I've struggled getting it to work as often as I feel like it should. The high and low passes with the saturation is what I've been missing. It never ceases to amaze me that I'll know how and why to do something like that if I'm giving someone else advice, but when working on my own mixes, I sometimes forget that I'm not limited by the parameters of any single plugin. Thanks for the reminder and clear description of your process!

  • @kasperrasmussen6149
    @kasperrasmussen6149 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for all the good stuff you put out there Joe! You are an excellent teacher

  • @echomotiondnb
    @echomotiondnb 9 месяцев назад +5

    This came at the perfect time! Beautifully well explained as well. Thanks Joe!

  • @Osssssssssssssh
    @Osssssssssssssh 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome lesson. I did learn a good lesson today because I set up my guitar the delay and reverb, I never set it right, but I know what my main problem is. Thanks for the good lesson

  • @guytisdale
    @guytisdale 9 месяцев назад +1

    Watching the video might seem a bit off at first with your personal sound effects, but you're really giving an in depth explanation of what it will do and sound like, which I like. Many kudos. 👏👏👏👏👏
    Your a real wizard at this when also stating how to perform the effects on many DAWs🧙‍♂.
    Thank You🙏

  • @mcmc5335
    @mcmc5335 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video -- straightforward commentary and how-to. Joe has a great radio voice, he should be a DJ. Wolfman Joe Gilder!

  • @jlo7855
    @jlo7855 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Joe, this video and your suggestion came at just the right time. My vocals and the chosen reverb did not match the rest of the song. Cool effect and yes, the low-cut is really a game changer

  • @corn_the_dog
    @corn_the_dog 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love your vocals so much

  • @DEKILL_official
    @DEKILL_official 9 месяцев назад +3

    I have to say I've been sleeping on slap delay because it just always sounded kinda -- bad to me whenever I tried it. Besides reverb my go to effect for vocals is maybe some kind of chorus effect mixed under the vocal (might also cause some unwanted issues if not careful and mixed real low) I've gotta give the slap back another chance with the help from this video though, very useful tips!

  • @rickdixontn
    @rickdixontn 5 месяцев назад

    Very helpful video. I've been doing delay wrong for quite a while. Love Studio One.

  • @TONDJO-STATION
    @TONDJO-STATION 5 месяцев назад

    parfait, bon résumé et petit rappel indispensable que parfois c'est exactement ce qu'il manque ! merci !!

  • @peterelfman
    @peterelfman 9 месяцев назад +2

    Joe!!! I cannot understate how absolutely clutch this video was. I've seen other tips suggesting delay in the vocal processing chain, but this is the exact answer I've been looking for to solve a particular problem in one of my latest productions. THANK YOU!

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM 9 месяцев назад +2

      “Clutch”? 🙄

    • @peterelfman
      @peterelfman 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@officialWWM "Clutch" as in "at the most effective time." As, a clutch base hit.

  • @ringomaharaj1268
    @ringomaharaj1268 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice stuff Joe....gotta try it on the lead vocal track I normally use a plate reverb on backing vocals.

  • @nicholaslombardi3327
    @nicholaslombardi3327 9 месяцев назад +1

    GREAT info brother..... it was John Lennon's fav =slap back delay. But you've taken it and refined how to push it around.... I've learned and appreciate your skill.
    thank you,
    fr Navarre, Fl.

  • @_davelv
    @_davelv 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Joe! Perfectly timed as I’m mixing at the moment.

  • @mikewaldron4492
    @mikewaldron4492 Месяц назад

    Just watched this again for the umpteenth time - yes I'm British. This sort of content is great to watch once properly, then revisit for reminders periodically.
    Today, whilst rolling some smokes, I found myself wondering what the lyric 'a truer cavart' meant. I'm embarrassed to say that it took me a couple of minutes to realise it was actually 'a true work of art'... 🤣
    Keep up the stellar work, Joe dude... 🤘

  • @CreativeSauce
    @CreativeSauce 9 месяцев назад +2

    Love this! Gonna try it for sure :)

    • @TheMixClub
      @TheMixClub 9 месяцев назад +2

      I lost Mike i picked chorus.. LOL

  • @TheRickdoggie
    @TheRickdoggie 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video!! I love the Analog Delay in Studio One. It's one of my MVP plug ins.

  • @darwinsaye
    @darwinsaye 9 месяцев назад +2

    The only always-on effect in my guitar chain is a 112-118ms single-repeat delay, except I use a delay pedal that has a high cut control for the repeat, and I have *all* the treble rolled off, so it’s not a “slap” back, but just a thickened sound.

  • @chizzlebeatz
    @chizzlebeatz 8 месяцев назад

    great video bro. this exactly explains what slapback does. its not just having echo in the background its almost like a mirroring of your own voice. without the headache of 5 vocal stacks lol

  • @mccloysong
    @mccloysong 8 месяцев назад

    Yes, yes and yes. Delay with top and bottom rolled off. I too have it on all vocals I do. It spackles the holes.

  • @potente141
    @potente141 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for sharing these awesome drops of hot sauce!

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph 9 месяцев назад +2

    What I usually like in a heavy mix is delay, not too much but a bit more of a delay than slapback. And usually tempo sync'd. Reverb tends to be hopless - too much mud no matter what you do with it EQ wise, because in a heavier sound the mid-range becomes more busy so not a super amount of benefit of just rolling off the highs and lows.

  • @thejameslealartco.7625
    @thejameslealartco.7625 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m happy I watched this

  • @FieroGTXX
    @FieroGTXX 9 месяцев назад +2

    Really cool video. This was a proving point for me. I listened to the effect before you built it, and said " Sounds like a slap back buss with a crunchy telephone filter and hi/lo pass." THEN you built it the way I heard it on my mind. Very hard earned moment when there's proof that my ears have grown. Could be a cool new segment. GET LIKE JOE. Id love for you to design and effect and we have a chance to guess how it's built as you build it. Great stuff. Really good stuff Joe.

  • @MrZerohour1967
    @MrZerohour1967 8 месяцев назад

    Great video. Love they way you explain everything in detail and give us examples. Everything you said makes great sense and I'll be tinkering with this next time I go into my home studio.

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Joe. Slap back is awesome. Like everything in life, best done in moderation.

  • @MontegoBayApartment
    @MontegoBayApartment 5 месяцев назад

    thanks for this very helpful demonstration Joe! Big up!

  • @deethree_orchestra
    @deethree_orchestra 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the tip. It will come in handy. I hope to use it somewhere. 🔷

  • @HorstAlex
    @HorstAlex 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hi Joe, since I joined many of your tutorials, it’s time so say: awesome. As we say in German; your a cool “Sau” sorry 😅 but this time this your delay tips, are my goal, as god gave me some Phil Collins Voice🎉 , so now I can create much more better this slap in his voice some songs he gave us to join for all times. THANKS 🙏

  • @marcvanhie4425
    @marcvanhie4425 9 месяцев назад +1

    great advice Joe!

  • @Jukeboxrevolvergso
    @Jukeboxrevolvergso 7 месяцев назад

    Cool thing about the slap back delay on the Johnny Cash, Scotty played an amp, there were only about 20 made, it had a tape delay built into it, it was later the blueprint for the Roland Space echo, but it was at the longest delay setting which was a slap back delay

  • @snarkus
    @snarkus 9 месяцев назад +1

    Slapback delay works great for harp, too. Just enough to fatten the notes up a bit.

  • @Tiomofee
    @Tiomofee 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting go-to regarding improving the sound of main vocals. Thanx a lot. :-) Subscribed! (/from Germany)

  • @BillNagle6900
    @BillNagle6900 8 месяцев назад

    Joe, I tried this on a vocal and it seemed to make the vocal much better. Thanks! The only thing I ran into was that I created a bus in S1 and added it there instead of the vocal track send. this made the vocal lag. but I found my error. Love your videos!

  • @lukealberti5094
    @lukealberti5094 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a very good video.

  • @pierrebroccoli.9396
    @pierrebroccoli.9396 9 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting, I was thinking initially to throw the vocals into a highpass filter for a lowfi sound but this is much better. Doing this in REaper with ReaDelay plugin.

  • @jazzguitarmichael9753
    @jazzguitarmichael9753 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Joe, greetings from Australia! Many thanks for this, and so many other superb tutorials. I am approaching completion of the mix for my band's first album, and your clear, well-presented videos have helped change this from a pretty-good result to a first-rate result. Also, am about to upgrade to version 6. Exciting times.

  • @JoeStuffzAlt
    @JoeStuffzAlt 9 месяцев назад +1

    Here's how I learned about delay. "Wait... there's effects on Ozzy's voice in Crazy Train, but it doesn't exactly sound like reverb." After I shook off the shock about how good the lyrics of Crazy Train are, I did some research online. It was indeed delay.
    I did not know about the EQ and distortion tricks. I definitely will have to try them sometime thanks to this video. I actually have a guitar pedal that I like using in live-ish situations, so now I'm more aware of the delay settings and what they can do
    Sometimes I like a very, very slight reverb when I use delay

  • @wapanglemdur
    @wapanglemdur 9 месяцев назад +1

    My fav delay plugin is echoboy... But I'm sold by this stock one by you.

  • @steveskidmore849
    @steveskidmore849 8 месяцев назад

    Many thanks for this. I really needed this, having a terrible voice. I need all the help I can get!

  • @CHIG5748
    @CHIG5748 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great tip! The Cash vocal is dead on 😂

  • @Punk_Mayhem
    @Punk_Mayhem 9 месяцев назад +1

    from Beinhorn, to Butch Vig, to Albini, the true legendary personnels nobody ever did used or put emphasis on this reverberation of fake illiterate production work flow. Joe Gilder is the only one ive found in YT who’s been honest to their true philosophy. the people so called yt producers suggesting using reverb, they themselves doesn’t even care about reverb.
    the exception would be the natural room reverb sounds, which adds a certain amount of depth to the original track.

  • @bassyjay6281
    @bassyjay6281 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work joe!! Its fairly early days for me in the producing, mixing world but clear on ooint videos like this are what people really need, top man 👊

  • @LievenDV
    @LievenDV 8 месяцев назад

    wow. loved this video! I usually get the urge to skip forward in production video's like these but Joe is different. He doesn't ramble on and in a style completely void of any pretention he's clear, concise and very practical. h and yes; bonus points if your Johnny Cash imitation is so good :D

  • @curiouscatlabincgetsworrie7755
    @curiouscatlabincgetsworrie7755 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice primer for slap back delays. I'm a Cubase addict since a few decades and also I have IK Multimedia Tape Echo and they sound ... good! I guess you can find some space either by panning the slap backs hard left/right or if that space is already occupied find somewhere where you as a producer hear them a little as slap backs rather than just part of the mud. It's basically a producer's hobby because friends, family and fans only care for the refrains haha! And yeah ... huge delays are a little over used and over trusted to to the right thing. Delays and short tight reverbs could oftentimes be the right medicine, but there is still a place for huge reverbs! :D

  • @dvnbrat
    @dvnbrat 9 месяцев назад +1

    Slap back delay is almost my default for my vocals. Thanks for helping me validate this nearly automatic choice. LOL

  • @guppybill
    @guppybill 9 месяцев назад +1

    My go-to secret sauce for live vocals is a Peavey Kosmos. Surprise!

  • @ElQuinnMcClarty
    @ElQuinnMcClarty 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nice Joe. Thanks.

  • @tymelyneentertainments7478
    @tymelyneentertainments7478 9 месяцев назад

    Oh wow this is a burner!!! I love this!!! Thanks as always Joe!!!

  • @drmstudio5050
    @drmstudio5050 9 месяцев назад +2

    Already using slap back delay from studio one on my second single release coming up. I’m going to try the widened out approach first, and then experiment with the grit and see if it’s right for the tune. Thank you!

  • @jielin3945
    @jielin3945 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bro Joe is super underrated for this bro. Not mention hes the best mix engineer in the world but, the process of the way he explain bruhhhhhh... Amazing, easy to understand and know the reason behind also being also to using 1 thing to do many thing. Wonderful

  • @SeriouslyLarry
    @SeriouslyLarry 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this. You've convinced me I need a 2nd delay pedal. I've toyed with the idea for awhile but it seemed like such a nuanced, barely noticeable effect. Now I hear what it does for vocals, I want to hear what it does for guitar.

  • @DerekPower
    @DerekPower 9 месяцев назад +3

    When you were describing adding a bit of stereo/ping-pong to the delay, what you described was the Haas effect

    • @ricardojmestre
      @ricardojmestre 9 месяцев назад +1

      Correct

    • @EdwinDekker71
      @EdwinDekker71 7 месяцев назад

      Haas effect is a waay shorter delay.

    • @DerekPower
      @DerekPower 7 месяцев назад

      @@EdwinDekker71 It can be up to 40ms for complex sounds

  • @Punk_Mayhem
    @Punk_Mayhem 9 месяцев назад +1

    he’s definitely going to be discussing delays, 10 million bucks, i bet, absolute definite!

  • @ANON0061
    @ANON0061 9 месяцев назад +1

    This video changed my life

  • @SC515
    @SC515 Месяц назад

    Moogfoiger slap delay is one I use, but it’s an out board gear so I use my patch bay. Cool video man.

  • @miguelpereaantonetti7576
    @miguelpereaantonetti7576 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thank you Joe

  • @mperron3
    @mperron3 9 месяцев назад +1

    I LOVE JOE ! ! ! So, what is that cool "Chrome" mic he is using?

  • @LouizAntonio
    @LouizAntonio 6 месяцев назад

    This is a true work of art

  • @sVieira151
    @sVieira151 9 месяцев назад +5

    The only thing better than reverb, is a second reverb! 😝

  • @wolfhard2420
    @wolfhard2420 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was also on that anti reverb trip until I compared my mixes with a number of Bee Gees songs using the reference option in Ozone. My mixes are dead dry compared to Bee Gees songs. Compared directly with this reference button The Bee Gees mixes even sound weird. I couldn’t believe how drowned they sound in reverb. And we all know that they had the best sound guys available to them. But I love delay and I use it exactly like it is explained here

  • @TimmoMcGinn
    @TimmoMcGinn 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very entertaining Joe. My takeaways…. Hot sauce and stink face!

  • @steviek6484
    @steviek6484 25 дней назад

    This channel is disgustingly good

  • @TheBinaryWolf
    @TheBinaryWolf 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the useful info. On slow vocals that have sustained notes, reverb is indispenable (with some delay).

  • @jonmatthews4254
    @jonmatthews4254 9 месяцев назад +1

    Always useful.

  • @philcassel
    @philcassel 9 месяцев назад +2

    You do a great Johnny Cash!

  • @stephenpeacock7990
    @stephenpeacock7990 9 месяцев назад

    Great tip Joe - thank you for sharing 👍

  • @gaston-alegre-stotzer
    @gaston-alegre-stotzer 9 месяцев назад +1

    current fav(s)... AudioThing's Speakers, Wires and Reels.