Can't believe people are seriously review bombing a game that's good because the dev can't update because he's trying to not die right now. I swear, some gamers need to get their priorities straight
Gamers are typically seperated into three camps; those that quietly enjoy games, those that are vocal and supportive, and absolute monsters. Sadly, the absolute monsters are the loudest and most vocal, but don't actually make up the majority of people who play video games.
Giving a negative rating for a game not being finished is not in any way a wrong action or review bombing for that matter. Sure, it's not the developer's fault and it would be completely dickish to blame them but non of the reviews I have seen while scimming through them do that. Furthermore many of them seem to not know why it was abandoned, which fair enough, it is not a consumers duty to research why their promised product was not delivered. Any hate towards the team is unjustified but trying to paint people that just normally and fairly gave a bad review to an unfinished product as bad people is extremely uncalled for.
@@Diamond-ji2gvplayed it the other day and curious how it is now good? The main problem I had was the map objectives and not enough heist and since release they have only added 2 legacy missions and 2 paid dlc.. That’s not enough.
@@magicjack4076 id say it's still mediocre bc it lacks good ui, p2p servers (using ur computer as a server), gun stats not being accurate, boring art style and crashes. However, gunplay feels good and the new heist plays very well and stealth is way better than pd2 imo. It's still mediocre. Also, pd3's servers May crash in cook off and its annoying cooking 18 bags just to see how the servers crashes and lose all progress
Steam's full of diamonds and turds. When you release 14,500 games a year , it becomes a double edged sword. The crazy things is, statistically you've tripled the number of good games you get in a year compared to consoles, the bad thing is wading through the mountains of trash to find them.
thank god it self-regulates so trash just drowns in depth of steam's purgatory never to be seen again, unlike on consoles. too bad gems aren't always floating either, they often need some push so algorithm picks them up. But that's why we are here watching those videos.
Barely ever personally add games to wishlist nowadays and that is with all 98ish k of games on my ignore list. Recently got like 3 free releases I played and completed.Now for me personally almost 100% of what steam releases goes directly in the ignore list…some i’d say are just genre differences. Most though i’d say the quality of the game is so low that student projects are better.
I think that’s exactly how it should be, I think people should be able to make and upload whatever games they want, if people choose to buy terrible products that on them. The only real problem from this are scam games which at least steam is usually pretty good about taking down
@@YourFavoriteSon1 For sure. This is one I'll be waiting a few months for, as the issues with it all just look like matters of dev inexperience and lack of polish rather than any genuine lack of vision or commitment. Let dev cook and it could be a real cozycore hit.
I actually disagree about "take down" abandoned games. Just lower the price accordingly (if it's broken than it's free), state on the store page in description that the game will not be supported and is sold "as is". I really dislike when devs remove their games from storefront. Just gimme that piece of content, I'd figure something out. I want to KNOW what I'm buying and that's it. We just need transparency, not some promises. I purchase games in Early Access AS-IS, never expecting any updates and it's smooth sailing, just don't forget to click "follow" in case anything actually happen with the game.
Absolutely agree. There are lots of older games that I'd like to buy, that aren't available outside of hunting physical copies with unsupported DRM and dubious downloads.
Yeah, its a huge loss to lose games, even if they're "bad." Bad games will always have a place in history. Like, I really miss a lot of shovelware from 10 or 20 years ago.
The non-Steam version is still available and very much free. I played it just the other day and it's still as addicting as I remember it being. It took me easily over 24 hours before I was able to close the browser tab to move on. Funny thing is that I meant to try it only for a couple of minutes. The game is great but it's so addicting that I'm actually glad that I haven't bought the Steam version of the game. I honestly don't even want to think about how many hours I'd have then.
I actually checked out yggdrasil a few months ago. I don't really like dogging on idle games that much, but it was pretty bad. As a clicker, its outclassed by... I think every single other clicker game I've ever played that doesn't include shitpost games? and as an idle game holy SHIT is it cleared by games miles better (free bingo answer: NGU) The only positive things I can say about it is that the aesthetic is fairly pleasing and the music isn't bad, but gameplay and mechanics wise it's really not good. Rebirthing is fairly useless, which is insane for a clicker game already. Holy spirits aren't useless but you're basically playing checklist simulator since the next one is ALWAYS better so no point doing anything with the previous ones. Clicking is 100% utterly useless, which is also another crazy thing since almost all clicker games find a balance. Overall just not a very good experience. I'm the person who spends way too long playing slop games made by cashgrabbing devs, and even I don't feel like putting more hours into it.
From what I see from this video, Until we Die looks like Kingdom but instead of simply dispensing coins as a task management tool, your main character can also take part in the defense of your bunker.
Most of Yggdrasill's images appear to be AI generated. I know not everyone feels this would be a big deal, but to me personally it furthers the feeling that the game is a low-effort, low-quality cash-grab, as it's clear the creators couldn't even be bothered to take the time and money to hire a real artist.
Yeah, let's make them broke ass solo devs pay tens of thousands of dollars to artists just to see their investments burn at the end of the day, cause that's the only good way to make a game.
@@thesun9210 there are literally hundreds of solo devs out there who made great games all on their own without using AI art. Even if one can't draw there are plenty of people who put out free assets packs for people to use, AI isn't needed.
@@CosmindArt free assets are not enough for people to express themselves and it's also not up to you to decide if a tool needed or not, it's like saying lumberjacks have been cutting trees with axes for centuries, so we don't need chainsaws. Let the devs decide how they want to make their games, Ai is just one more tool added into their arsenal.
@@thesun9210 express yourself with a darn pen instead of using a grifting machine built on the stolen labour's of actual artist. I've see a disabled person with no arm paint a beautiful sunset with her brush held between her teeth. Gen-ai is not a tool, pick up a pen.
At first I wondered if they wrote "bunghole" wrong and why someone had the idea to make a Beavis & Butthead game at this time, when the show is pretty obscure these days.
Actually, it sounds like he gave it a “meh” review. It sounds like it’s hard to get a real hang of due to poor explanation in the game and less than optimal UI, but maybe there are some mods that can fix that. And the devs are still updating the game. I’m curious to try it out
It's funny that the only game on this list that truly and utterly, without any question deserves it's bad review score is the one with the biggest money and production behind it. Well deserved too, fuck Payday 3 and the losers at Starbreeze for treating us loyal fans like some stupid cash cows.
@@kurdtcobenThe game play for Payday 3 is genuinely so much better than Payday 2. All they need to do is add offline mode (which they're doing) and more heists.
Acquire studios have been a popular AA studio in Japan, they made they innovative games like Tenchu and Way of the Samurai, but also weeb stuff like Akiba's Trip. They recently went more big budget when they collaborated with Square Enix to make Octopath Traveller games. Adventure Academia seems so be on their lower end weeb side of catalogue
@@Graknorke Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I do not mean anything like "weeb = bad". It is catering to a different market. Akiba did gained popularity, but many games dont get budget or marketing push to succeed.
I love these kinds of video's. My favorite Genre of game is Bad Games. I love the janky messes with weird art and bizarre stories, but it's hard sometimes to parse out "they put their heart into this weird idea and it fell a little short" and "This has no story and only runs if you say 3 Hail Mary's and sacrifice a roomba."
This video highlights the importance of negative reviews since people might find a favorite out of this bunch. And this is deadass too. I think the Internet has become aggressive towards negative reviews, so a video like this is nice to see.
Its wild because at it's core, Payday 3 is FUN, well puttogether... but holy hell it launched so badly with servers barely working and then just, heists that barely exist.. and weird monetization choices. It's a shame, because I was excited for it... and welp. Back to Payday 2 then.
These videos are always really interesting, especially when hidden gems are uncovered. I think you should talk with Grealdon who is doing "Steam Sequence" where he's going through every single steam game in alphabetical order to find which games are good vs bad regardless of user score. He goes through a game or two a week and I think you could do a collab with him since your both doing similar things.
Review bombing a game for lack of updates when the devs are in Ukraine is wild to me. I hope the devs are doing alright. The first half of this video was stuff I was mostly 'huh that looks pretty good' over. Brocula definitely feels it needs some tweaking but the foundation there is pretty charming, love the art style.
I love "Until we Die". The only map it has works as a full game for me, but yeah, I do hope the developers will get a chance to develop it as it was intended :D
As intro for every game, you should include a snapshot of their rating and how many reviews (basically what Steam shows), as a form of documentation. You don't even mention it 😬
I don’t know this makes sense so here goes but you should try to find games that are underrated or games that doesn’t have a reviews on it. Could find a gem from doing that 🤷♂️
Undead Inc. is bad version of Project Highrise. Abermore is just bad version of Theif with bad graphics and bad gameplay. Payday 3 feels rushed and puts features we did not ask for or need
Undead Inc sounds actually pretty interesting! Team 17 I trust. Brocula really seems well intentioned, but it's ironic when a game is WAY too punishing for how chill it seems.
getting here a bit late, but I'm also a clicker game defender! though I delve more in the "incremental" side of 'em- not necessarily clickers, but in the spirit. Skynet Simulator, Crank, A Dark Room, Candybox, Proto23. All great games, in different styles, doing completely different stuff. Still in the genre, but with personality! Sadly, most of what comes out ends up being like Yggrasil. Gems are worth looking for, though
there is one detail about yggdrasill that kinda shows how lazy and cheap the game is: the tree graphic's edges are cut off from the sides, there is random splotches at edges, and some of the lineart has been erased. its kinda giving away the fact that it has been edited out of a picture with a background rather than being an artwork especially made to be used as an graphics element for this game. idk if its stolen art, or genuinely made for this game, regardless does not look good.
I never played Cornhole in real life, it's just not a thing in Germany. I only ever played it virtually with my friends in the lobby of Phasmophobia 😄 But I am honestly not surprised there's a professional Cornhole league. It's basically like Boule or Darts, park/pub sports that also evolved into a professional thing. And if even wacky stuff like Quidditch got professional scenes, why not Cornhole?
i was actually a QA tester for Team17, i tested Undead INC and Hammertings and i raised a ton of issues about both games, and they completely dismissed me it seems, everything that was wrong with them is still there.
In ACL's defense pricing it it at $30 is in line with the value of other sports games. NHL2K whatever doesn't actually have anywhere near $60 worth of content. It's fun for a game or two with friends, but people pay full price for those because a lot of those who like sports games really only buy sports games. If you only buy one new game a year, it's easy to justify $60 to get the newest set of players. I don't get it, but it's obviously important enough to people to maintain the whole sport game market.
You didn't need to use Overcooked 2, Dredge. etc to demonstrate that Team 17 are a credible publisher. Team 17 have been creating/publishing games for over 30 years, beginning on the Amiga in 1990. They are legendary and revered.
i found your channel like 2 days ago and been bingewatching these videos. I'm surprised you havent mentioned Hero Siege (2?), where people spent hundreds of hours (like me at 400hours) just to get every Satanic gears/weapons get wiped due to major updates AND THEN again after completely restarting for the first time. Last time I played it was back in 2018 or 2019 at 401 hours but i'm giving it a 3rd chance and i am now at 615hours... And oh i always respect who use Silent Hill 2/3 tracks in the background
think you might be right. the left side of the tree is cut off and you can see white fragments from a removed background? If an actual artist would've drawn that tree it wouldn't have that cut off crown. However, i don't mind AI generated art and images hehe...
@@MadWyrmMusic AI art is basically stolen art. Not one of the LLM models that do art has shown their training data so it's almost certainly just stolen from places like deviantart.
@@Merble No it's not. I'd rather not argue about that topic since blood will boil fast when talking about stealing art, however, just because AI uses other peoples art that is publicly available doesn't mean it's stolen. By that logic, nearly every artist today is a thief since they copied and learned from other peoples art.
@@MadWyrmMusic Publicly available does not mean free to use. Most art is covered under some form of creative commons licensing with requires attribution for any derivative works, and LLM simply cannot provide this attribution. It's theft. If a human learned from another human's example, that's inspiration. LLMs are not humans and should not be treated as such. Also, AI doesn't exist yet. It's not AI. Calling it AI is a ploy by the companies controlling them so people will take whatever they say as fact, because it's "intelligence".
@@Merble so it's okay if a human learns from art to draw but not if it's a machine? maybe i am stupid but pleas explain what's the difference? Where does the stealing process happen tho? i cannot agree with it. It is automation of a task or a skill which is a necessary step in evolving technology forward. I can understand why someone wouldn't like AI to learn from their art, however, the artist put it on the internet free to view, the consequences, that someone would use it for something shouldn't be a surprise.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain a clicker game in earnest. A lot of people write them off as memes, but there is a strategy to them even if it can be simplistic and straight-forward at times.
Brocula looks so cool. Like the whole idea its build on, that a vampire needs to get a job to repair his castle is so cool and fresh. Just so interesting... Like magic idk.... They should make a anime out of that
While the PD3 debacle is notable, it is just a straight up lie that at the time of this video being released, there was only a single post-launch heist. There were 3 when this video was published and 2 were free.
With the cornhole game, things that would make it actually interesting -Funny costumes, possibly inspired by the players they have in the game to be more involved in the sport -Vr support, something so simple could be much more fun -obvious things like different arenas, make some like backyards front yards parks beaches, make some silly ones like the players being kaiju sized and using the city as a cornhole arena -have some modes separate from basic cornhole like a corn hole version of those crazy mini golf course, or overhand mode where you absolutely beam that sucker with over the top animation, or a party mode where you could aim for things aside from the goal to get powerups that do stuff to make it harder for your opponent to get in the hole
I'll give it to the Brocula developer. A double pun! Nice! And I had no idea you americans actually played a backyard sport called "Cornhole". I got the urge to pull my shirt over my head. Gotta love that.
I'm from the US (and technically the south for that matter) and I'm right there with you. It feels weird to say that out loud. Then again I do need some TP for my bunghole... bungholio... hmhm, heh
@@ASpooneyBard I love it. It's just such a great sounding word. Especially shouted really loud by Mike Judge. I'm norwegian and our games all have really lame names like "Kick the can". Cornhole rules!
25:01 if they just took payday 2, added new levels, new weapons, added new models for weapons and characters and gave it new graphics, people would love it
Freeman guerilla warfare. Its like a jankier mount and blade set in modern time but you can kit out everyone individually in your army. It got review bombed because devs abandoned it after promising a bunch of sweeping updates its had a really up and down lifecycle
I never really got Melvor Idle. It might be because I have never played RuneScape, it might be because there are so many systems without proper explanation, it might be because despite letting it run for some 500 hours it didn't feel like I was getting somewhere. Currently I'm playing Magic Research 2 and loving it. The first one was great already and the sequel is mostly just more of that.
Mmhmm. I’m with you on Melvor. It felt like it needed to lean into the unfolding mechanics aspect of incrementals imo….but otoh like you I never played RuneScape and I know it appeals to those who did. So perhaps it’s just different strokes. I know there’s a game like Melvor that people have enjoyed who didn’t like Melvor, but h*ck if I can remember the name.
that game Until We Die reminds me of those old school flash games where you can get survivors and give them weapons (i think i dont remember if you give them the weapons or they have their own) and each night you got groups of zombies coming towards you and you have to fend off the waves
i think brocula could be a really cute mini series or something like that cause i love the art style in the animations they did and the story could be fun for like some stupid show
My neighbors play cornhole every weekend in their driveway. Thr game is definitely dumb as hell, but they’re having fun, play music at a reasonable volume, and dont get upset when neighborhood kids run through the middle.
You sound like a miserable person lmao. Is it dumb when kids play basketball? Its getting a ball in a hole. This is getting a bag in a hole. Whats the difference?
Payday3 got negative reviews not because the gameplay is bad but the things outside the gameplay is horrible. (Servers, Online only, Questionable dlc pricing and so on)
Cornhole, or Poor Man's Horseshoes, really should have picked a better name. I feel like the majority of people just didn't know what that phrase meant until it was too late!
Allegedly the name of the game is literally what it was. Throwing bags of the corn feed into a box with a hole in it. Supposedly a game farmers played.
i ditched payday 2 because of the loot crate debacle. if you dont remember the timeline, it was at the height of overwatch and devs realized they could milk you with a rng'd reward for a fixed price. in real world dollars. in a pay to access game, that was already at the time, charging 250% base price in dlc, at steam's discount rates, for the full experience. today, with the game 50% cheaper, it's still a whopping 250 dollars! 2400% base price! it takes roughly 40 hours of grind to setup basic gear for one build. if you want a fully optimised rig, it's 80+ hours, and you'll be paying for dlc's needed for THAT build. and they also were in the process of doing multiple nerf waves on shotguns, akimbo pistols... in other words the game i liked, went grinding for 100+ hours back then has nothing in common with today's PD2, to the point i cant go back anymore. i lost these hours entirely. the time needed to coast this game comfortablely is litterally a full time job. so yeah, i'm not, an probably lots of others, going to buy a starbreeze title ever again. especially since rng'd lobbies suck ass in PD2 (you'd only really want to play certain missions to grind, and try the other missions to let off steam, taking away that choice simply kills the point of having a variety of jobs available) looking back at PD2, i cant even begin to comprehend the pain overwatch specialists must feel today...
I mean you don’t need dlc to make a build and in 10-20 hours you can hit level 100, and if you struggle with 2 piece suit amcar and chimono up to mayhem with muscle then big rip, should improve those skills. Payday2 is a good game we revolted the loot boxes and we won all skins are earnable, only a few dlc are unobtainable but there not worth mentioning other than Scarface but even then that’s nothing pay to win in payday2. I’ve seen plenty of players start at level 1 and learn death sentence to hit level 100 and already be doing one down Louds before they ever infamy once. Even for stealth many a new player find stealth easy right off the go. It’s all just a skill issue. If you need help with the game just ask around plenty of people out there willing to play at 20-30k players daily for payday2 :)
Well, son. That's a real bummer. I got myself Payday 3 today, it's still originally wrapped in my bag, and I was pretty excited to get to play it for the first time, since I have heard nothing about it until today. In hindsight, I guess it was for a good reason. I'll just go back to Payday 2 again
pro cornhole is very fun to watch, i saw it on tv randomly once bc its like all community college kids plus maybe 2 from a college youve heard of its great and i love the vibe
While stopping game development due to war is a reasonable result, that isn't what happened. It's important to know that Until We Die stopped development way before the war. The developer hangs out in Discord and posts to Github, but otherwise never says a word in any of his channels, English or Russian. I don't have a single issue if they don't want to update the game, but it is distasteful that he uses the pain of others to shield themselves from criticism on a video game.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine really fucked over Loop Hero too. It was a super fun game that very clearly was intended to have DLC, as there are spaces in the game for an archer character and unused equipment slots and obvious placeholders meant to be expanded later. All of which was canceled after the war. Way to go Putin.
Gamers have seriously become so insufferable a non triple A studio releases a game (Undead Inc) a literal month ago and it’s considered horrible, so much so that it gets review bombed because some individuals are too lazy to figure out game mechanics. Steam is becoming the kind of cesspool that Reddit is, filled with people who have horrible arrogance and garbage takes thinking they’re hot shit.
Jokes on you, I like Payday 3. It’s clear with Operation Medic Bag they’re making efforts to fix it. Sure it has its flaws but at the end of the day, it’s still Payday
Can't believe people are seriously review bombing a game that's good because the dev can't update because he's trying to not die right now. I swear, some gamers need to get their priorities straight
I was kind of shocked at some of the reviews.
They probably didn't bother doing any research whatsoever.
Gamers are typically seperated into three camps; those that quietly enjoy games, those that are vocal and supportive, and absolute monsters.
Sadly, the absolute monsters are the loudest and most vocal, but don't actually make up the majority of people who play video games.
Sometimes review bombing feels like mass psychosis. Ppl just follow alobg.
Giving a negative rating for a game not being finished is not in any way a wrong action or review bombing for that matter. Sure, it's not the developer's fault and it would be completely dickish to blame them but non of the reviews I have seen while scimming through them do that.
Furthermore many of them seem to not know why it was abandoned, which fair enough, it is not a consumers duty to research why their promised product was not delivered.
Any hate towards the team is unjustified but trying to paint people that just normally and fairly gave a bad review to an unfinished product as bad people is extremely uncalled for.
It's so pathetic seeing a game that cost 50 mil to make like Payday 3 next to one person indie games made on a lunch break.
Here's prayers Starbreeze and Overkill go bankrupt 🙏
@@DogeickBatemanJesus Christ grow up.
@@DogeickBatemanpd3 is now good but still misses a few things. Pd3 in like 2 years will be good i hope
@@Diamond-ji2gvplayed it the other day and curious how it is now good?
The main problem I had was the map objectives and not enough heist and since release they have only added 2 legacy missions and 2 paid dlc..
That’s not enough.
@@magicjack4076 id say it's still mediocre bc it lacks good ui, p2p servers (using ur computer as a server), gun stats not being accurate, boring art style and crashes. However, gunplay feels good and the new heist plays very well and stealth is way better than pd2 imo. It's still mediocre. Also, pd3's servers May crash in cook off and its annoying cooking 18 bags just to see how the servers crashes and lose all progress
Steam's full of diamonds and turds. When you release 14,500 games a year , it becomes a double edged sword. The crazy things is, statistically you've tripled the number of good games you get in a year compared to consoles, the bad thing is wading through the mountains of trash to find them.
thank god it self-regulates so trash just drowns in depth of steam's purgatory never to be seen again, unlike on consoles. too bad gems aren't always floating either, they often need some push so algorithm picks them up. But that's why we are here watching those videos.
Barely ever personally add games to wishlist nowadays and that is with all 98ish k of games on my ignore list. Recently got like 3 free releases I played and completed.Now for me personally almost 100% of what steam releases goes directly in the ignore list…some i’d say are just genre differences. Most though i’d say the quality of the game is so low that student projects are better.
I think that’s exactly how it should be, I think people should be able to make and upload whatever games they want, if people choose to buy terrible products that on them. The only real problem from this are scam games which at least steam is usually pretty good about taking down
I think this entire "Brocula" thing is a play on broke - you know, because he's... well, broke
a little bit of both
You're actually both wrong - the name is because he's part broccoli.
@@kurdtcoben if I am 198 and I eat 2 pounds of Macaroni and Cheese, do I then become 1% Mac and Cheese?
@@UpperCumberlandGamers Well, obviously.
Until digestion yeah @@UpperCumberlandGamers
Brocula seems like it could be really good... One day.
It is genuinely fun and comfy. With some hotfixes and some updates it could be great.
@@YourFavoriteSon1 For sure. This is one I'll be waiting a few months for, as the issues with it all just look like matters of dev inexperience and lack of polish rather than any genuine lack of vision or commitment. Let dev cook and it could be a real cozycore hit.
Try Graveyard Keeper for fun, morbid undead farming.
Yeah, I have been listening to the feedback to improve it. Along with working on its 1st expansion pack.
Prateek. Let's get a definite answer. Is it broke ula. Cause you know he is broke. Or is it bro cula. Cause you know he is a bro.
I actually disagree about "take down" abandoned games. Just lower the price accordingly (if it's broken than it's free), state on the store page in description that the game will not be supported and is sold "as is". I really dislike when devs remove their games from storefront. Just gimme that piece of content, I'd figure something out. I want to KNOW what I'm buying and that's it. We just need transparency, not some promises. I purchase games in Early Access AS-IS, never expecting any updates and it's smooth sailing, just don't forget to click "follow" in case anything actually happen with the game.
Absolutely agree.
There are lots of older games that I'd like to buy, that aren't available outside of hunting physical copies with unsupported DRM and dubious downloads.
Yeah, its a huge loss to lose games, even if they're "bad." Bad games will always have a place in history. Like, I really miss a lot of shovelware from 10 or 20 years ago.
generally should never expect future updates unless specifically promised tbh, at least when it comes to more than just bug fixes
@@5kcl but a roadmap does not count as "promised"
yeah watch them lower the prices of thousands of games now
Yggdrasil is literally a shitty Cookie Clicker. That game was flash and used to be FREE.
The non-Steam version is still available and very much free. I played it just the other day and it's still as addicting as I remember it being. It took me easily over 24 hours before I was able to close the browser tab to move on. Funny thing is that I meant to try it only for a couple of minutes. The game is great but it's so addicting that I'm actually glad that I haven't bought the Steam version of the game. I honestly don't even want to think about how many hours I'd have then.
@@Mizufluffy its still an ai slop garbage
I actually checked out yggdrasil a few months ago. I don't really like dogging on idle games that much, but it was pretty bad. As a clicker, its outclassed by... I think every single other clicker game I've ever played that doesn't include shitpost games? and as an idle game holy SHIT is it cleared by games miles better (free bingo answer: NGU)
The only positive things I can say about it is that the aesthetic is fairly pleasing and the music isn't bad, but gameplay and mechanics wise it's really not good. Rebirthing is fairly useless, which is insane for a clicker game already. Holy spirits aren't useless but you're basically playing checklist simulator since the next one is ALWAYS better so no point doing anything with the previous ones. Clicking is 100% utterly useless, which is also another crazy thing since almost all clicker games find a balance. Overall just not a very good experience. I'm the person who spends way too long playing slop games made by cashgrabbing devs, and even I don't feel like putting more hours into it.
From what I see from this video, Until we Die looks like Kingdom but instead of simply dispensing coins as a task management tool, your main character can also take part in the defense of your bunker.
That was my thought too, reminds me a lot of Kingdom, but seems to have its own take on it
I noticed this too, I was waiting for YFS to mention it
Most of Yggdrasill's images appear to be AI generated. I know not everyone feels this would be a big deal, but to me personally it furthers the feeling that the game is a low-effort, low-quality cash-grab, as it's clear the creators couldn't even be bothered to take the time and money to hire a real artist.
the images arent even properly croped. Part of the leaves are chopped on one side, there's ugly white artifacting all around. Clearly very sloppy :/
Yeah, let's make them broke ass solo devs pay tens of thousands of dollars to artists just to see their investments burn at the end of the day, cause that's the only good way to make a game.
@@thesun9210 there are literally hundreds of solo devs out there who made great games all on their own without using AI art. Even if one can't draw there are plenty of people who put out free assets packs for people to use, AI isn't needed.
@@CosmindArt free assets are not enough for people to express themselves and it's also not up to you to decide if a tool needed or not, it's like saying lumberjacks have been cutting trees with axes for centuries, so we don't need chainsaws. Let the devs decide how they want to make their games, Ai is just one more tool added into their arsenal.
@@thesun9210 express yourself with a darn pen instead of using a grifting machine built on the stolen labour's of actual artist. I've see a disabled person with no arm paint a beautiful sunset with her brush held between her teeth. Gen-ai is not a tool, pick up a pen.
About Cornhole, I think it needs more airmail.
its lookin like AIRMAIL
CORN HOLE + AIR MALE = You get where this is going.
I've got a fever, and the only cure is more airmail
At first I wondered if they wrote "bunghole" wrong and why someone had the idea to make a Beavis & Butthead game at this time, when the show is pretty obscure these days.
Anyone else hungry for some Johnsonville Sausages?
The sponsor for a pro cornhole game is Johnsonville, a sausage company. Sometimes the jokes write themselves.
Undead Inc premise sounded so cool, like having your own Umbrella Corporation. Then I remembered this is a bad reviewed games video.
Actually, it sounds like he gave it a “meh” review. It sounds like it’s hard to get a real hang of due to poor explanation in the game and less than optimal UI, but maybe there are some mods that can fix that. And the devs are still updating the game. I’m curious to try it out
if you liked Until we Die check out the Kingdom series (Kingdom: Two Crowns as reference)
Will do, I saw this game referenced a lot in comparison.
Thats what i thought. If its just more of that im into it.
I played Kingdom: Come Deliverance and this series is kinda confusing.
@@admiraltonydawning3847 Completely unrelated to Two Crowns, developer and all.
I totally lost it when you said "It looks kinda f*cking stupid" about Cornhole 🤣🤣🤣
It's funny that the only game on this list that truly and utterly, without any question deserves it's bad review score is the one with the biggest money and production behind it. Well deserved too, fuck Payday 3 and the losers at Starbreeze for treating us loyal fans like some stupid cash cows.
huge respect bro
@@mykyta1235 What for? This was not some brave statement, just me being pissed off :p
@@kurdtcobenThe game play for Payday 3 is genuinely so much better than Payday 2. All they need to do is add offline mode (which they're doing) and more heists.
Undead Inc. is like managing Umbrela Corp. from Resident Evil just on realistic and mundane level.
Acquire studios have been a popular AA studio in Japan, they made they innovative games like Tenchu and Way of the Samurai, but also weeb stuff like Akiba's Trip. They recently went more big budget when they collaborated with Square Enix to make Octopath Traveller games.
Adventure Academia seems so be on their lower end weeb side of catalogue
Putting down the weeb stuff seems questionable, Akiba's Trip was well received, so they're obviously capable of making things that are good.
@@Graknorke Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I do not mean anything like "weeb = bad". It is catering to a different market. Akiba did gained popularity, but many games dont get budget or marketing push to succeed.
Brocula is actually a mixe between Broke and Dracula btw, you can see the constant themes of little money and debt to back that up.
I love these kinds of video's. My favorite Genre of game is Bad Games. I love the janky messes with weird art and bizarre stories, but it's hard sometimes to parse out "they put their heart into this weird idea and it fell a little short" and "This has no story and only runs if you say 3 Hail Mary's and sacrifice a roomba."
This video highlights the importance of negative reviews since people might find a favorite out of this bunch. And this is deadass too. I think the Internet has become aggressive towards negative reviews, so a video like this is nice to see.
Payday 3 still hurts. What a baffling flop.
I really wish they could fix it, but it just doesn't seem likely at this point.
Its wild because at it's core, Payday 3 is FUN, well puttogether... but holy hell it launched so badly with servers barely working and then just, heists that barely exist.. and weird monetization choices. It's a shame, because I was excited for it... and welp.
Back to Payday 2 then.
It can still be saved if they want to
It's a good game with overly sensitive critics
The servers were a non problem, at least for me, but i agree with your other points@@StagFiesta
These videos are always really interesting, especially when hidden gems are uncovered. I think you should talk with Grealdon who is doing "Steam Sequence" where he's going through every single steam game in alphabetical order to find which games are good vs bad regardless of user score. He goes through a game or two a week and I think you could do a collab with him since your both doing similar things.
Review bombing a game for lack of updates when the devs are in Ukraine is wild to me. I hope the devs are doing alright.
The first half of this video was stuff I was mostly 'huh that looks pretty good' over. Brocula definitely feels it needs some tweaking but the foundation there is pretty charming, love the art style.
Ooooh, I hope the Until We Die dev is okay...
PAYDAY 3. It's like they learnt nothing from the success of PAYDAY 2 and regressed
Ah Abermore, Thief on a budget. A small budget, but a decently fun budget!
Oooof I forgot about Until We Die. Poor Dev.
I would assume that the review bombers are of a certain ethnicity, considering the ethnicity of the creator
29:23 shoutout to “HotBathFarts” 🤣
I love "Until we Die". The only map it has works as a full game for me, but yeah, I do hope the developers will get a chance to develop it as it was intended :D
As intro for every game, you should include a snapshot of their rating and how many reviews (basically what Steam shows), as a form of documentation. You don't even mention it 😬
Thanks for the feedback! This is a great idea and I'll start implementing it moving forward.
Brocula is obviously supposed to sound like "Broke dracula". Not a "bro" who is a dracula lol
I don’t know this makes sense so here goes but you should try to find games that are underrated or games that doesn’t have a reviews on it. Could find a gem from doing that 🤷♂️
I'm working on a video right now on Indie titles that I really enjoy. Some undiscovered, some that people know.
Undead Inc. is bad version of Project Highrise.
Abermore is just bad version of Theif with bad graphics and bad gameplay.
Payday 3 feels rushed and puts features we did not ask for or need
"Until We Die" look's like "Kingdom Two Crowns" with a different Art style, maybe i try it out. 🙂
payday 3 could've been so good it just wasn't ready for release
Undead Inc sounds actually pretty interesting! Team 17 I trust.
Brocula really seems well intentioned, but it's ironic when a game is WAY too punishing for how chill it seems.
getting here a bit late, but I'm also a clicker game defender! though I delve more in the "incremental" side of 'em- not necessarily clickers, but in the spirit.
Skynet Simulator, Crank, A Dark Room, Candybox, Proto23. All great games, in different styles, doing completely different stuff. Still in the genre, but with personality! Sadly, most of what comes out ends up being like Yggrasil. Gems are worth looking for, though
hey babe, wake up, he got out of the crib
there is one detail about yggdrasill that kinda shows how lazy and cheap the game is: the tree graphic's edges are cut off from the sides, there is random splotches at edges, and some of the lineart has been erased. its kinda giving away the fact that it has been edited out of a picture with a background rather than being an artwork especially made to be used as an graphics element for this game. idk if its stolen art, or genuinely made for this game, regardless does not look good.
bean-bag toss ("cornhole" is stupid af and i am not calling it that) would work so much better in VR.
I never played Cornhole in real life, it's just not a thing in Germany. I only ever played it virtually with my friends in the lobby of Phasmophobia 😄
But I am honestly not surprised there's a professional Cornhole league. It's basically like Boule or Darts, park/pub sports that also evolved into a professional thing. And if even wacky stuff like Quidditch got professional scenes, why not Cornhole?
i was actually a QA tester for Team17, i tested Undead INC and Hammertings and i raised a ton of issues about both games, and they completely dismissed me it seems, everything that was wrong with them is still there.
The untill we die dev is believed to have be a casualtie while relocating. No one has heard or seen him since his last post.
In ACL's defense pricing it it at $30 is in line with the value of other sports games. NHL2K whatever doesn't actually have anywhere near $60 worth of content. It's fun for a game or two with friends, but people pay full price for those because a lot of those who like sports games really only buy sports games. If you only buy one new game a year, it's easy to justify $60 to get the newest set of players. I don't get it, but it's obviously important enough to people to maintain the whole sport game market.
You didn't need to use Overcooked 2, Dredge. etc to demonstrate that Team 17 are a credible publisher. Team 17 have been creating/publishing games for over 30 years, beginning on the Amiga in 1990. They are legendary and revered.
They need another 30 years to make up for Box Office Bust.
i found your channel like 2 days ago and been bingewatching these videos. I'm surprised you havent mentioned Hero Siege (2?), where people spent hundreds of hours (like me at 400hours) just to get every Satanic gears/weapons get wiped due to major updates AND THEN again after completely restarting for the first time. Last time I played it was back in 2018 or 2019 at 401 hours but i'm giving it a 3rd chance and i am now at 615hours...
And oh i always respect who use Silent Hill 2/3 tracks in the background
Yggdrasil looks like having AI generated images
think you might be right. the left side of the tree is cut off and you can see white fragments from a removed background? If an actual artist would've drawn that tree it wouldn't have that cut off crown. However, i don't mind AI generated art and images hehe...
@@MadWyrmMusic AI art is basically stolen art. Not one of the LLM models that do art has shown their training data so it's almost certainly just stolen from places like deviantart.
@@Merble No it's not. I'd rather not argue about that topic since blood will boil fast when talking about stealing art, however, just because AI uses other peoples art that is publicly available doesn't mean it's stolen. By that logic, nearly every artist today is a thief since they copied and learned from other peoples art.
@@MadWyrmMusic Publicly available does not mean free to use. Most art is covered under some form of creative commons licensing with requires attribution for any derivative works, and LLM simply cannot provide this attribution. It's theft. If a human learned from another human's example, that's inspiration. LLMs are not humans and should not be treated as such.
Also, AI doesn't exist yet. It's not AI. Calling it AI is a ploy by the companies controlling them so people will take whatever they say as fact, because it's "intelligence".
@@Merble so it's okay if a human learns from art to draw but not if it's a machine? maybe i am stupid but pleas explain what's the difference? Where does the stealing process happen tho? i cannot agree with it. It is automation of a task or a skill which is a necessary step in evolving technology forward. I can understand why someone wouldn't like AI to learn from their art, however, the artist put it on the internet free to view, the consequences, that someone would use it for something shouldn't be a surprise.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain a clicker game in earnest. A lot of people write them off as memes, but there is a strategy to them even if it can be simplistic and straight-forward at times.
Team 17 has become dogcrap in taking dev's works, and sticking spyware in them, like they did with "Golf with your friends."
Brocula looks so cool. Like the whole idea its build on, that a vampire needs to get a job to repair his castle is so cool and fresh.
Just so interesting... Like magic idk.... They should make a anime out of that
Pro cornhole?
Never thought id see the day
We really out here
Makes as much sense as Bowling being a pro sport. Or golf…
I really need to try out Until We Die, I enjoyed Kingdoms: Two Crowns or whatever it's name was that is very similar to Until We Die.
While the PD3 debacle is notable, it is just a straight up lie that at the time of this video being released, there was only a single post-launch heist. There were 3 when this video was published and 2 were free.
Cornhole being a pro game is so stupidly American.
With the cornhole game, things that would make it actually interesting
-Funny costumes, possibly inspired by the players they have in the game to be more involved in the sport
-Vr support, something so simple could be much more fun
-obvious things like different arenas, make some like backyards front yards parks beaches, make some silly ones like the players being kaiju sized and using the city as a cornhole arena
-have some modes separate from basic cornhole like a corn hole version of those crazy mini golf course, or overhand mode where you absolutely beam that sucker with over the top animation, or a party mode where you could aim for things aside from the goal to get powerups that do stuff to make it harder for your opponent to get in the hole
The ACL Pro players aren't even holding beers in their non dominant hand. No thanks brochachos
First time here and the "Hey, Dad. It's me, your favorite son" caught me of guard and had to find context cause I was confused and concerned lol
I'll give it to the Brocula developer. A double pun! Nice! And I had no idea you americans actually played a backyard sport called "Cornhole". I got the urge to pull my shirt over my head. Gotta love that.
I'm from the US (and technically the south for that matter) and I'm right there with you. It feels weird to say that out loud. Then again I do need some TP for my bunghole...
bungholio...
hmhm, heh
@@ASpooneyBard I love it. It's just such a great sounding word. Especially shouted really loud by Mike Judge. I'm norwegian and our games all have really lame names like "Kick the can". Cornhole rules!
Kyle Malone catching many strays in this video: getting absolutely bodied by Son.😂
Sorry Kyle
If brocula can make the mini games more engaging and shorter i see a lot of potential.
Abremore appears to be heavily theif inspiered
do not laugh at cornholing. you could be the next great cornholio.
25:01 if they just took payday 2, added new levels, new weapons, added new models for weapons and characters and gave it new graphics, people would love it
You're really doing me proud and have earned your place as MyFavouriteSon
Freeman guerilla warfare. Its like a jankier mount and blade set in modern time but you can kit out everyone individually in your army. It got review bombed because devs abandoned it after promising a bunch of sweeping updates its had a really up and down lifecycle
I never really got Melvor Idle. It might be because I have never played RuneScape, it might be because there are so many systems without proper explanation, it might be because despite letting it run for some 500 hours it didn't feel like I was getting somewhere.
Currently I'm playing Magic Research 2 and loving it. The first one was great already and the sequel is mostly just more of that.
Mmhmm. I’m with you on Melvor. It felt like it needed to lean into the unfolding mechanics aspect of incrementals imo….but otoh like you I never played RuneScape and I know it appeals to those who did. So perhaps it’s just different strokes.
I know there’s a game like Melvor that people have enjoyed who didn’t like Melvor, but h*ck if I can remember the name.
16:27 Real cornhole fans already have their MMO, the 'Grinder' app. No need for another game.
that game Until We Die reminds me of those old school flash games where you can get survivors and give them weapons (i think i dont remember if you give them the weapons or they have their own) and each night you got groups of zombies coming towards you and you have to fend off the waves
I think Brocula is supposed to be broke-ula. like you have no money so you rebuild because you're broke.
It's so sad seeing you going from "ACL Pro Cornhole" to "Payday3". I had great hopes for this game
Until we die seems to just be a Kingdom: Classic clone which is a f2p game on steam.
Natural Instincts looks like a pretty interesting idea.
Ring of elysium was super popular in 2018 and now not more than 60 people are playing.
To be honest, Brocula looks like it should have been a Stardew Valley mod.
i think brocula could be a really cute mini series or something like that cause i love the art style in the animations they did and the story could be fun for like some stupid show
My neighbors play cornhole every weekend in their driveway. Thr game is definitely dumb as hell, but they’re having fun, play music at a reasonable volume, and dont get upset when neighborhood kids run through the middle.
You sound like a miserable person lmao. Is it dumb when kids play basketball? Its getting a ball in a hole. This is getting a bag in a hole. Whats the difference?
Payday3 got negative reviews not because the gameplay is bad but the things outside the gameplay is horrible. (Servers, Online only, Questionable dlc pricing and so on)
corn hole segment had me in stitches hahaha AIRMAIL
Damn I really want Until We Die made. Loved the Kingdoms games
Brocula is BROKE. literally first thing you see is a massive debt bill? but sure,. hes a bro - lmfao
There's some dark humor in a man in Ukraine making a game called "Until We Die".
I'm from the chicagoland area and we always called it "bags" instead of cornhole, but idk if that was just us
Glad my steam game didn’t make your list 😅
28:45 also, armour used to regenerate over time but health wouldn't - now, both need to be refilled from medic/armour boxes. Really weird choice
Cornhole, or Poor Man's Horseshoes, really should have picked a better name.
I feel like the majority of people just didn't know what that phrase meant until it was too late!
Allegedly the name of the game is literally what it was. Throwing bags of the corn feed into a box with a hole in it. Supposedly a game farmers played.
@@coreydopson2030 Oh, I know. It also has a much different slang meaning!
i ditched payday 2 because of the loot crate debacle. if you dont remember the timeline, it was at the height of overwatch and devs realized they could milk you with a rng'd reward for a fixed price.
in real world dollars. in a pay to access game, that was already at the time, charging 250% base price in dlc, at steam's discount rates, for the full experience. today, with the game 50% cheaper, it's still a whopping 250 dollars! 2400% base price!
it takes roughly 40 hours of grind to setup basic gear for one build. if you want a fully optimised rig, it's 80+ hours, and you'll be paying for dlc's needed for THAT build.
and they also were in the process of doing multiple nerf waves on shotguns, akimbo pistols... in other words the game i liked, went grinding for 100+ hours back then has nothing in common with today's PD2, to the point i cant go back anymore. i lost these hours entirely.
the time needed to coast this game comfortablely is litterally a full time job.
so yeah, i'm not, an probably lots of others, going to buy a starbreeze title ever again. especially since rng'd lobbies suck ass in PD2 (you'd only really want to play certain missions to grind, and try the other missions to let off steam, taking away that choice simply kills the point of having a variety of jobs available)
looking back at PD2, i cant even begin to comprehend the pain overwatch specialists must feel today...
I mean you don’t need dlc to make a build and in 10-20 hours you can hit level 100, and if you struggle with 2 piece suit amcar and chimono up to mayhem with muscle then big rip, should improve those skills.
Payday2 is a good game we revolted the loot boxes and we won all skins are earnable, only a few dlc are unobtainable but there not worth mentioning other than Scarface but even then that’s nothing pay to win in payday2.
I’ve seen plenty of players start at level 1 and learn death sentence to hit level 100 and already be doing one down Louds before they ever infamy once. Even for stealth many a new player find stealth easy right off the go. It’s all just a skill issue. If you need help with the game just ask around plenty of people out there willing to play at 20-30k players daily for payday2 :)
Well, son. That's a real bummer. I got myself Payday 3 today, it's still originally wrapped in my bag, and I was pretty excited to get to play it for the first time, since I have heard nothing about it until today. In hindsight, I guess it was for a good reason. I'll just go back to Payday 2 again
This video is outdated since it came out theres been 3 new heists, a bunch of fixes came out or are planned for near future
4 heists i forgot one
pro cornhole is very fun to watch, i saw it on tv randomly once bc its like all community college kids plus maybe 2 from a college youve heard of its great and i love the vibe
While stopping game development due to war is a reasonable result, that isn't what happened. It's important to know that Until We Die stopped development way before the war. The developer hangs out in Discord and posts to Github, but otherwise never says a word in any of his channels, English or Russian. I don't have a single issue if they don't want to update the game, but it is distasteful that he uses the pain of others to shield themselves from criticism on a video game.
Also, I think Steam should change the "mostly negative" status to "massive bummer."
I like your videos but it makes me feel weird that I have to rp as your dad when I watch them
The Russian invasion of Ukraine really fucked over Loop Hero too. It was a super fun game that very clearly was intended to have DLC, as there are spaces in the game for an archer character and unused equipment slots and obvious placeholders meant to be expanded later. All of which was canceled after the war.
Way to go Putin.
16:13 I genuinely can't believe it's even a thing
Is there a longest spit completion game somewhere?
Brocula is obviously a play on words. He's a broke dracula, not a bro dracula.
i would recommend cube world from one of the most promising alphas to the worst version of beta
I hope Kyle Malone sees this video and goes "Hey, what the fuck man" 😂
Dude's actually real?
Gamers have seriously become so insufferable a non triple A studio releases a game (Undead Inc) a literal month ago and it’s considered horrible, so much so that it gets review bombed because some individuals are too lazy to figure out game mechanics.
Steam is becoming the kind of cesspool that Reddit is, filled with people who have horrible arrogance and garbage takes thinking they’re hot shit.
Jokes on you, I like Payday 3. It’s clear with Operation Medic Bag they’re making efforts to fix it. Sure it has its flaws but at the end of the day, it’s still Payday
Brocula is a lot more like Graveyard Keeper than Stardew imo.
Team17 also did some Amiga games son. A famous one would be Alien Breed.
you deserve a like just for having persona 4 music at the begining
I think brocula needs a price cut to help it $19.99 feels steep something like $4.99 or $9.99 would be way better