"Genshin Impact Is Better Than Wuthering Waves In Every Way"
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Hahahaha brooo
Guys... i think he sees his way clear
youre the G man, thanks
The fact you even went and did this kills me. Though tbf if you didn't, I would've.
Can't wait for Tectone to cover the fact that we are getting a free 5* selector as an apology for launch problems.
I’m sorry what
Yes @@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz yeah a free standard 5 star selector plus 10 limited pulls they're going all out cause cn community are pretty angry
fr fr the devs are literally spoiling us atp
@@DrSwazz yup.
"you skipped 90% of WuWas story while you at least watched the genshin stories"
My brother in christ, you literally HAVE to watch the genshin story because it doesn't let you skip that shit.
You don't get to choose. 😭😭😭
Played genshin since kokomis first debut and i can proudly say i would have NEVER EVER EVER gone through a story they gave me the complete ability to skip.
A fucking wet dream as i’m forced to lower my dialog volume to avoid growing a brain tumor from paimons yapping while spamming space and m1 for hours on end.
Im never looking on my screen unless there’s a cutscene, ACTUAL COMBAT or a god forsaken puzzle (pls add a separate paimon voice slider🙏🙏
@@Sarrr1that is EXACTLY how I felt
@@Sarrr1 Fr, The yapping in Genshin is so absurd, what could be said in few words got turned into long sentences and they speak 1,5 times slower. I love Genshin lore but...yeah
Brother in pagan?
@@zaidkapadia6824 Underrated comment
My dude picked a fight, lost it, and got farmed for content.😂
this is why i never talk shit online 💀
>Genshin came out before COVID
Holy brainrot.
that shit had me so stumped, that dude did not cook
maybe guy in iceland or something with 0 case of Covid recorded lmao
@@vince4503 North korea
@@theultrasillygoober The only thing he cooked is meth.
This is beyond brainrot, bro is equivalent to a vegetable
That ramdom said 10 wishes ain't good enough. He probably liked those 3 fates he got from hoyo 😂
mf be smoking 100 primos like fentanyl 💀💀💀
Devs also gave free 5 star selector as an apology
I am sad that the launcher isn’t working properly for me for some reason and I am missing all of these rewards :(
300 Primos not even equal to 3 spins
@@nonamenolife2635 yeah my launcher wasn't working properly either. But I went back from Windows 11 to Windows 10 and the launcher fixed itself. Maybe you can try that if you have a PC, but of course everything gets deleted. That's the only way to fix the launcher as of now for me.
3 fates in 3 years while wuwa gave 10 on day 2.
“Dont act like 10 pulls is a lot”
Also this guy when he sees gnshin anniversary awards:🤤🤤🤤🤤
I truly wonder why genshin players got really salty whenever genshin has a new competitor. Like, can they just enjoy that we get more free to play open world gacha game? I swear they're at least on par or even worse than MHA community in terms of toxicity.
@@pitunov8390people are stupid , that is all, they think competition is. A threat to their beloved game so they have to get all offensive about it as If mihoyo needs their "defense"
@@xLuis89x i agree.
dude loves his sweet madames
@@pitunov8390 the worst is defending a fucking gatcha with so much energy.
Like...my dude, it's a gatcha, all it wants is more money and time. If it pleases you, you play it, if it doesn't you don't but in any cases, why the fuck would you defend it like some kind of lobbying?
I find it insulting when they call Tectone's chat his "echo chamber" as if they don't echo each other to hate on him. 🤣
Chat is just overall fun 😂
hating on an opinion without having a discussion or clear non-cope argument is wild in general
Tectone just fought his evil shadow for 20 mins. He is now officially a persona user.
"I am thou ... thou art i"
u won the internet sir, I laughed for a good min
Could’ve renamed the title “Genshin Mintpicker acts more schizophrenic than the schizophrenic”
Even schizo look more normal when you compare them to each other one even touch grass for god sake
"Genshin Mintpicker being disingenuous"
Yep
Schizophrenically canon
Meaning? Of this word @@aidilhakimi8425
Genshin can light an orphanage on fire and people wont say anything while Wuwa will get chastised for Jay walking
I agree, but I also got teleported below the map after a cutscene 2500 meters away from where I was supposed to be, didn't swim in water, and couldn't move my camera. I feel like there's a bit more to it than jaywalking.
@@chhite7590 funny how it happen to me on early launch of genshin once on the backside of mondstat outer walls too
Facts
@@chhite7590 genshin Could NEVERRRRRRRRRRRR
@@chhite7590 biased hypocrite
🗣️ "WuWa will have no viewership"
me: *literally watching a guy try to kill the 3 lvl 120 monkeys for 1 hour*
What Wuthering Waves does better than Genshin at launch:
- Better combat
- Better traversal mechanics
- Characters have more animations during dialogues rather than being stiff
- Boss fights are very skill-based
- Better endgame
- 240 resin/waveplates at launch
- 100% weapon banner guarantee
- Skip dialogue
- Mobs attack each other in the overworld, either humans vs mobs or mob vs mob
- 5-star selectors in less than a week. It's possible to get 3 5-stars in the game a few days after launch
Also:
- You don't need to switch to a greatsword/broadblade user to easily mine ore deposits
- Autoloot. Items dropped by opened chests or slain wildlife/enemies are automatically added to your inventory. You do not need to collect them from the ground.
- The Echo system. Adds another layer of combat customization and playstyle and much more interesting than artifact grinding.
And no paimon who acts more like a mc than mc with overtalkative irritating high pitch voice
All of this actually doesn't matter, no paimon already make wuwa infinitely better
althought i like the skip dialogue option i dont think ill be using because ill be in a dialogue talking about how animals are important to the city then the whole city gets destroyed by something i skipped (lol)
@diovis21 oh no don't get it twisted all of that does matter, it's just no paimon is the icing on top for sure 😉
Also add, no paimon
Only thing this guy taught me is how to spell the word disingenuous.
Real bro
It’s a nice sounding word.
@@ryan-tabarjust like hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia
fr i didnt even realized that such a word even existed💀
@@eden5388or even pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
"Wuwa has more issues COMPARED to genshin; that is an undisputable fact." wuwa has literally only been playable for 2 days. it's gonna have problems. what they failed to point out was genshin has had these same problems and continues to have them after 4 years. at least wuwa devs are trying to fix it
Yeah. And just recently they had an issue that nearly destroyed people's games. And they are clearly scared because we haven't had a Kaveh rate up rerun for a while.
Feels like the don't have the confidence that they fully fixed him. Or they protected the game enough to not have a repeat. If another wrong person gets him.
@@usonohoshi6165 yeah i've heard its pretty bad, I haven't touched genshin impact since jan of 2023. it got repetitive and boring and i cant imagine what it has become now.
@@rororororosie Currently in their "off season" the recent stream shows that they will definitely go back to the main stuff. But those can be done in one weekend or two, depending on how busy you are.
Off season events ones are definitely just a one weekend thing as long as you let the game release all the levels. The way they pad it by releasing one to two levels a day can be quite silly.
@@rororororosieas someone who started playing it recently,(i quit during 2.5) it's still pretty bad especially for f2p, but if you have a friend who can oneshot a boss, the grinding is way easier, because instead of fighting for like 10 minutes for one boss, your friend can do it in less than 1 minute
Bro its there first gaccha game and these shits crying crazy
"Combat alone cannot carry this game"
Black Desert Online: Hold my beer.
Average Black desert story experience: RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Unfortunately, I like reading so I have to read those shit 😭
But I do keep spamming R during Tuvala Seasons since I already know the story when starting over again
BDO player here!
@@stuvthanz STUV? OwO
@@stuvthanz Stuv?? OwO
Bro is just arguing with himself at this point
But he’s making money doing it
@@DrSwazz yea i get it, its just funny to think its him on an alt account
its fun ngl
@@Bbne420 Please explain how he is "on an alt account" when the guy is quite literally typing while he is playing the game fighting monsters you goofball and he also pulled up the dude's twitch chat logs showing the dude was sending messages while he was writting in a document you're a fool
And actually I love that this game has issue as now dev team gave us a free 5 star selector and even great games like zelda has bugs these people can't admit when there wrong lol
Saying devs who roll out hotfixs are bad is crazy seeing as warframe devs after 10 years still roll out hotfix after an update drops. Emergency hotfix is a sign of competent devs 2:35
Seeing the hotfix updates after the main updates made me loyal to warframe even as a newer player just because i know from proof that they're immediately competent and actively looking out for bugs (granted there's still some stuff but that's better than radio silence)
you know what's better?
devs that dont need to hotfix.
but we'll take what we can get.
Voruna is bae
I was thinking the same thing! No company wants to do a hotfix but players love them because then they know that their issues are being taken cared for. And Kuro give us 10 free wishes AND a 5 star character of our choice while being fast with hotfixs and not waiting until the next update (a month and a half) to see one like another game 😂
@@raulmaltrain6893 tell me a dev who doesnt need to hotfix because there are no perfect devs
"Combat Alone cannot Carry this game Long-term"
I believe he hasn't heard of PGR game literally owned by the same company that purely survives because of combat (Literally Story there is A Skip and For Fact it didn't have Any advertisement aside from that One Video About Crimson Weave vs Twins literally showcasing Combat System)
Genshin players don't know what good combat content does for games, genshin players log in to play fucking TCG for fuck sake
It's quite funny he says the game will be dead like ToF. Funnily enough, ToF is still earning money. Not big, but unfortunately for him, not dead.
And if a game as unpolished as TOF is can survive, what makes him think WuWa won't. This game will stay for long as long as Kuro doesn't do something unredeemable, like doing illegal shit.
Or Devil May cry? People still play 3 4 and 5 religiously and the story isn't great, and most offer 2-4 characters to use tops.
story did get better, but this is way far off, however, yes main carry here is combat and gameplay, game still alive even with bad advertisement
in the debate scene that's called gish galloping. just drown your opponent in half baked barely thought out points and overwhelm them, and the second their point starts to be challendged and they know they dont have solid ground to stand on they throw another at you. luckily you held your cool, held him down and went point for point with him, it takes cooling down and dictating the pace of the debate and a great amount of patience.
this is why we love tectone
bro was angry as he couldn't beat crownless(he didn't know zhongli doesn't exist in wuwa)
I unironically had more difficulty with a guy riding a bike, and a massive bear twice my level than I did against crownless
Tbh, i do feel jianxin's bulky shield is kinda pseudo zhongly, without the interrupt immunity though
@@bullettime1116 ooooh same he was annoying but once i actually used the glacier characters it was so easy
@@bullettime1116 Bruh that bear is pure cancer yesterday.
What’s funny is that you can fight giant monke inside a giant tree for a boss fight
People losing arguments will try to hop or change subjects. (Information overload, it's a tactic) Tell them if they change the subject they are giving up on it and lose on those subject points they bring up when they try to change to a new point or topic on the matter. People who do this know they are losing the argument is why this dude tried to change the topic subject matter so much and tried to label Teccy as a shill or call him "disingenuous." Ironically this chatter was disingenuous & bad faith from the start.
Probably a Hoyo spy sent to assassinate Tectone lmao 😂
Ayanokoji tactics on!
You described tectone in the last “pros and cons” video 😂
Cope
Yea bro argued like my narcissistic brother and i could see every garbage tactic from a mile away. Nearly none of the dozens of points he hopped around to held ANY water, and when he eventually made a remotely reasonable one, surprise surprise, they actually agreed, right up until the chatter remembered he hated teccy and NEEDED to disagree with him
13:19 funniest thing about the chatter mentioning the 619k peak and asking him to compare it to Genshin's launch, is that peak was like a random day in 2022. August 22, 2 days before 3.0, out of nowhere. If you actually compare the launch days, Genshin has like 210k, WuWa has 146k. Considering how big Twitch and Gaming exploded during the pandemic, its not that surprising that Genshin outperformed. Although, not by much considering those same factors.
Also important to note the Minimum viewers on the launch day, Genshin had 36k, while WuWa has 56k. A good sign of a more active base viewership. Genshin had a large spike from larger streamers (who aren't in the gacha space) deciding to stream it, but more of those viewers didn't return to the category to watch other streamers. The chatter is just dumb af, the fact they didnt even check the launch day peak and just assumed that the 619k was launch day is a good sign they are are not doing even basic fact checking.
That and also them criticizing WuWa on having bad story in comparison to Genshin's launch. 1.0 story in Monstadt is mid af. I like venti, but the bulk of it is very simple. Once you get to the combat parts of the story its even worse. The part where you are flying in the air and shooting Dvalin is just boring, and then the final fight against him is janky (even today, over 3 years later) I do agree that overall WuWa's first parts of its launch story is bad from a lore and story side of things (while Genshin's was okay), but the gameplay and combat in the story quests is great (while Genshin's was bad).
Regardless of whether you play the game, you should be wanting it to be successful, competition is making miHoYo have to actually make the game better when it comes to gameplay and especially resin. Them increasing resin cap to 200 now of all times is no coincidence. They could and should have increased it before Fontaine and/or Sumeru but chose not to. One of the biggest reasons being that if you just played every 24 hours you would lose out on resin, since it only takes like ~21.33 hours to get the 160, you would lose out on ~20 resin. They want you to have as little resin as possible, but not so little you complain so much that it becomes the only thing the community talks about.
Anyways, this whole rant has gone completely off track, time to sleep. If anyone actually read or replies to this, I would be quite surprised.
Edit:grammar
ye we basically knew that chatter was pulling it out of his ass conveyor belt style and doesn't think about his argument
disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous
Good points well said.
But in my opinion, GENSHINs combat isn't bad, it's good, but wuwas is great.
It's good combat ( GI ) vs GREAT combat ( wuwa).
the world building, lore, story is stupidly great in Gi, but the problem is the stupid direction.( The barely expressions, stupid dialogue stances, like how they stand and talk like robots, AND NO SKIP BUTTON!!. Am a lore guy but I can understand people don't want read and just play, just give a skip button it's easy.
I think the dialogue themselves are fine.
As for wuwa, just have to wait for lore/world building to expand ( it's only day3 now lol ) to judge.
But yeah monstadts start was simple and basic, and then accelerated to how great it is ( despite the stupid problems I mentioned ).
but dude, you're being disingenuous
Wait, they only did it to 200? Not 240?
@@reya012 yeah 😂😂😂
I swear am gonna suicide !!!
Genshin story be like :
Paimon : so what you saying is ......
"SO BASICALLY *repeat everything that has just been said*"
=> MC goes "nod nod" with its stupid 🙂 face.
=> get given a fake choice (also happens in WuWa btw, not a good point for them)
@@ThomasAndy-qu8dp at least in wuwa you have lip sync and some choices give different answers and mc that talk more than this MC after 4 years
Just finished the main quest, and the story gets much better after you fight scar for the first time, kuro also announced that they are hiring new VAs and new writers to improve the story and the delivery, they are also giving a free 5 star selector ticket (not banner) as compensation for everything. I will always have faith in this game because kuro is a company that actually listens to their players' feedback.
this, the sheer fact that they WANT to improve is a sign of success to me
Ikr
Yesss! Immediately topped up at day 1 since i'm passionately supporting it as the company actually listens.
Fr . everything with Scar is genuinely so good, his nightmare boss fight is everything I always wanted from Genshin (particularly from the Fatui harbingers)
true. I found the act 3 has nice depths into it, combined with the quirky story telling, oh boy
What WUWA have over genshin:
Better Ingredients, Better Pizza
-Papa Johns
Dunkey fan.
@@husamfaris729 whats that?
@@husamfaris729 still crying?
And cruchy crust
so, I watched this video and I can see a genshin stan when I see it, all of my friends played this game and alot of us are above union level 30 and we have all had a blast with it. Its very hard to not compare this game to genshin because it fixed so many issues that we were all accepting as a normal thing (within genshin) that now that we don't have to deal with it anymore (things like running out of stamina and falling to death, things like flying into a cutscene just to find out that you died because you dropped from midair) this game feels super refreshing
I also played this game for the combat, not the story. At this point I could care less if the story is super bad because thats all we have had for a while (minus HSR), so playing for combat is super cool, this is what people have been wanting for a long time, IMO. I hate it when I am doing parts of a story and these games go off on a tangent with so much dialogue that even SPAMMING through it will take hours just to get past it (having a skip button in this game is SUPER NICE). I also like the fact that responses for this game as far as bugs go get fixed right away. I experienced my own bug (which I later found out was widespread among players) while fighting the tactical hologram: mourning Aix where the game would target an enemy WAY off camera when it (Mourning Aix) would fly up off screen. That was fixed very quickly.
The devs can fix this game and make it super good, there might be a reason as of to why the story is doing what its doing, if anyone has seen one piece then they KNOW that it started out not so great too, but now its one of the most loved anime out there. Give this game time, let the devs do what they do and do not spread false hate. I do not want to be tagged or responded to here because I know there WILL be people who disagree with me, but thats 100% ok, everyone is entitled to their opinions, however, look at things from both angles when comparing games to each other, not a one of them is truly perfect and without some sort of bug SOMEWHERE.
Alright, thats all I have to say and thanks for reading this if you did, its just my personal take, but I think this game has promise for the things I listed
That guy was probably 13 when Covid started and now he messed up the years and thought that Covid started in November/December of 2020 when it started in 2019. Then he said that Genshin came before it 🤣🤣
Genshin sidequest average time: 45 mins.
Wuwa sidequest average time: 10 mins.
The skip button is a godsend.
Literally a game changer, i hate world quests and archon quest in genshin
@@avrhamcom then why do you even play this game? Genshin isn't for you.
@@SuleimanTheMagnificent71618there are other likable things... Mostly the aesthetic...
@@avrhamcomI wanna do the quests if the dialog was skippable and watching what I wanna see.
funny thing, I wanted the skip botton in genshin but now that I have it here I don't skip wuwa story lol.... guess the thing I wanted was to skip genshin "story", not the botton
Ain't no way bro made half an hour video of 1 random chat guy
One guy'd
It was his livestream not a video
EZ clickbait free money for him
more money for him, more content from him
@@ChunMargin honestly its fun to watch dramas and arguing too, its like a podcast
Been playing Genshin for 2 years
AR60 w/ 1K plus Achievements
Multiple Meta Teams, Characters
95-100% All Regions on 2 Accounts as an F2P
I think I can safely say I know how Genshin works. It's boring AF, people who sticks to it for the story are basically kids or adults with an IQ of a kid. They get hyped up for a damn Animated short that HoYo promised 2 years ago.
It's a damn short, not a full episode and they get fired up. They are beyond salvation.
I played that garbage also and only could witstand Li ue and mondshtat, after that i literally felt ill and disgusted from how bad of game genshin was... THEY EVEN LIMITED FISHING AND THROW BAITS IN DIFFERENT REGIONS AAAAA.
after that i learn that inadzuma had power spike in difficulty and shit story, so i went to sumeru and instantly quit game after i seen how unreasonably large hills in that area... Also combat was so bad that i resined to use Archers with charge attack only. Now i have genshin ptsd from how bad it was....
Mean while wutering waters felt like hybrid of honkai star rail pgr and honkai impact wich are my favorite games and story is kinda interesting also
The story is ok but yeah people get really obsessed over the story of genshin. But a lot of people dont especially since people keep asking gor a skip button. If hoyo cared and had confidence theyd hve added a skip button.
@@MrMilkyCoco funny thing is that honkai star rail, honkai impact and wuva even pgr had skip buttons from start, genshit devs Just want to hold People more in "game" for stable player count
Jesus Christ what the fuck did I just see 😮 bro acts like he knows everything related to genshin timeline but doesn't even remember a fucking pandemic
If I had the option, I'd skip 90% of the Genshin plot too.
Almost everyone would 😂😂😂😂
@@letsrank9349 i just stoped enjoying playing the game. Even getting Arlecchino is super underwhelming now and doesn't make me wanma keep playing.
@@flamingdeathbananaThat character cuppochino was overhyped to hell and I lost interest to the point I couldn't stand her and the MC lost to her like a punk it's sad
@@vinceunknown1935i loved her before her release cause that's when i didn't had to witness her fandom...later... I figured...she managed to acquire fandom worse then hutao's... Her story quest was good and all but mc losing against her while only doing bare minimum while she was in her full glory of transformation didn't feel impactful... "She was taking it easy" how is that taking easy..she was the only one who used all her power and transformation while others use physical attacks..atleast let traveller use his element before losing ..that would be lot more easy for me to accept that she's strong despite his best efforts ... It was for marketing they made her shine...
@@vinceunknown1935 Maybe id MC wasn't using a Dull Blade they woulda won.
Bro was malding so hard that he got made into a video LMAOOOO
Lil bro got FARMED
It's funny how the people who hate him continue to give him thousands of dollars in content
free content baby
120k views 😂
Have you seen that we’re getting a free 5 star selector in mail as well as another 20 radiant pulls? The 5 star selector lasts for a year as well it’s crazy
A year? That's hope for ps5 launch.
Nah I don't care about that. Fix the game first that I actually care about.
@Bashbuddies bro literally most people haven’t had much issues if any and they weren’t game breaking genshin could never give a free five star for the anniversary let alone an apology
Me personally.... that guy was yapping some disorderly noise as sunday would call it
😂😂😂
5:17 "It's in release bro they can't fix the story now"
Literally star rail: removes requirement to do a sidequest that wasn't coherent in the main story. They can change anything they want to. Will they? Probably not, but they CAN.
Like legit the only good thing about genshin is its story and music, while the combat is so aaaass, boring and repetitive, just spam xingqiu, bennett, kazuha and your new DPS tada
While in WuWa even tho the story isnt chris nolan level of writing, the combat is so good its literally "skill issue" if you lose, dont forget the variety of attacks, air combos etc
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 No, another very important "good" thing about Genshin is lore, character design and setting. Genshin is THE anime isekai/fantasy game. That is insanely appealing to the anime fanbase and many gamers in general. Imo Wuwa suffers a bit from its lack of unique designs and the weird black/white color palette they use. It's certainly an art direction, but it feels like they were going for something similar to NieR and couldn't really nail it.
Before Genshin even came out my friends already gushed over Mona, Jean, Barbara etc, that were displayed on the website. I like Wuwa combat, but it doesn't really feel like it wants me to stay, similar to ToF. It's a bit weird because PGR and Girls Frontline nail this more "mature" look really well.
We also have to consider that the majority of Asian players doesn't really want challenging Dark Souls like combat, they play these games for 10 minutes on their phones on the way to work. The majority doesn't seem to care about combat at all and only ~10% of players even touch Abyss. Most of the players are in it for characters and exploration fun, and Genshin is still pretty good in that - all the nations have unique designs and cultures that have distinct personalities and clear vibes.
Imo Azur Promilia could be a bigger "threat". Made by the Azur Lane devs, looks really promising with its bright art direction and isekai fantasy style, gameplay seems to have some unique features for the genre as well.
Honkai impact devs rewrite story 3 times and comoensated with a ton of energy for all players...
@@quanlinglingdingle6122not to mention how new characters will integrate with the way WuWa combat is designed, it offers a lot of flexibility
@@quanlinglingdingle6122when i started genshin i found the combat great. Then i understood that its mostlyu about rollfacing AND getting good rolls on your artifacts(i didn't say GOD ROLLS just good rolls which sometimes don't even come up during farming).
There is so many characters and most of them are one dimensional with no hope of changing or evolving. It's so BAD
Love how the dudes whole argument is "You're being disingenuous." Like I am legitimately left wondering if they know what that word means....
I enjoy Genshin, I actively play Genshin. I also play HSR, and WuWa. I like them all and all have pros and cons. WuWas launch hasn't been the best but Kurogames is showing they're a competant, and dedicated dev team who want this game to succeed. People like this dude give the rest of us who just want to enjoy our little games a bad name. It doesn't have to be a competition. Play your game, let me play mine and kindly fuck off.
Unsmart people tend to fall back to broad vague arguments when they've got no good points to present.
@@riotangel4701 Unsmart is my new favorite word
@@skyethenerd1054 crazy
@@skyethenerd1054lol it's sounds good imma use that word later if i find someone like that
Genshin is like 4 years old while wuwa is just 4 days old (not counting pre launch)
and its understandable that wuwa has more issues but the devs are working hard to fix them (hotfixes)
meanwhile genshin devs just refused to fix other issues and left them even after years of it still existing
so
Genshin has the longest running issue that are not getting fixed any time soon
while
Wuwa has many issues that are being fixed currently
which do u think is worse :v
Literally name optimization issues that Genshin is facing or HAS faced at LAUNCH (assuming that you're not just yapping and actually played the game at launch. However, you're just gonna lie about it so I won't even bother) WuWa fans literally hyped their game to be "genshin killer" and are now massively coping because they're getting destroyed by the CN community now.
"Atleast Kuro listens,"
Yeah right, they had 2 CBTS and so many years to listen to the same problems. Yet, those problems remain unfixed and they try to divert public attention by bribing them five stars. Damage control =/= generosity.
They listen to YOU, but can give 0 dogwaters about their own employees; literally took advantage of freshmen graduates and ripped off their "freshmen" status while putting them on probation (meaning that they get underpaid for 6 months)-- only to get laid off when that probation period is over. Since their "freshmen" status is ripped off and are labelled as experienceless, most of these employees cannot find jobs. Great! Kuro literally ruined the lives of 100 workers.
Furthermore, employees are now underpaid and working overtime cause of Kuro's own management issues, but it's okay because they apparently "care" about you and are coaxing you with their sweet words? I don't recall Hoyoverse ever having such a poor work environment even during their lowest times.
You seem to forget that Kuro is a company, they are businessmen. They absolutely do not give a finger about you, they're just trying to save themselves right now.
@@siren3028 So you'd rather Kuro not listen, not apologize to their playerbase, nor improve their game and have them on the chopping block for dismissing 100 employees?
@@vjbd2757 So you care about yourself more than the conditions of talented workers? Oh please.
Y'all also act like they're "listening" when all they're trying to do is take damage control and make the game not fail.
Do not employ straw man on my argument, it is more than just "dismissing".
@@siren3028 thats a lot of yapping but sure bro its your opinion
@@siren3028 "You either hate the game I hate or you're a shill." - @stixxy
Bro got farmed like cottons during ww2
This guy was so fucking annoying to read his messages when this happened.
Nah he cooked tectone ngl, he was only wrong in the last part about covid but that was whatever really.
@@kiuhh1118 half of ur messages are hating on tectone or wuthering waves
Nice try atleast try to be honest bruh 😭
@@kiuhh1118what was he right about tell us
@@kiuhh1118 How ? The game does every single thing genshin does better and more, everything people have been complaining about in genshin for years has been fixed in wuthering waves. Including the skip button, now if you're the type of person to actually enjoy genshin's story and reading it's shitty dialogue i'm not trynna hear anything from you lmao.
@@kiuhh1118 buddy get off the alt account we all know its you tecton3
If i got a standard pull for every time this guy said disingenuous, i could hit pity on my discounted novice banner.
Words I know "disingenuous" 😂
Do some people think that because the story is bad in 1.0 it means that it will be bad forever? Kuro has managed to save their story before. PGR was pretty boring at first, then the first patch came with the narwhal story and it was amazing. After that from chapter 9 and onwards the games story got so much better patch after patch. With the amount of feedback given and Kuro being good at listening I have no doubt in my mind that they will create a compelling story eventually.
Imo, the story does actively get better the further along you get through it. The final boss fight was pretty fun and I'm hyped to see the next section of it while I'm practicing the amazing combat in-between.
As an ex genshin player, yep, wuwa definitely saved me, already lvl 23
How tf? I am only level 9.... how do you guys get to 23 so fast lol ? I probably should finish the main story instead of exploring lol.
@@sasank4after you finish some quest or reach 10 union level (sorry don't remember) ECHO will appear on map(first time completion without wasting energy gives around 450 union exp)so its fast enough
@@Sarbertoras Ooo Interesting! Ima get my ass to 10 then.
@@sasank4 np gl!
Same 😂 downloaded yesterday and already union level 23 😂
Now I understand why Genshin community is so toxic. Half of the time they don’t play the game because there is nothing to play and go to another game to diss them.
Ye dude it's a lot genshin players just dissing on people and think the first launch should release perfectly without any issues
gotta use their downtime between olympic mintpicking somehow
They think this and that are the problem but didn't realize that they are the problem 😂
which is funny if you think about it, theyre just a player, not even a shareholder or even mihoyo employee, wuwa doing great or not literally shouldn't matter for them, they dont lose any money, their precious wifu doesnt dissapear from their account, the fact that they going around to people stream, wuwa sub reddit, hsr subreddit and shitting on the dev is just looks pathetic
Always has been even the Arknighy community shits on them constantly.
I'm watching 2020 tectone vs 2024 tectone 🤣
the most ridiculosu thing is that was a actual living breathing human and not a faulty programed bot....my brain melted way...nuclear psychopath..
People were pretending that Wuthering Waves was gonna be this groundbreaking miracle of a game, perfect from the start? bruh.
It was made by humans and is bound to have shitty parts. Just enjoythe parts you like and skip the things you don't.
Ye bro I think what tectone and some other ccs over hyping wuthering waves is the main cause of all of this bec people thought that there will be no issues whatsoever which is obviously wrong every game on the first release has lots of issues and all of the genshin glazers just think that it will fail now which is hilarious for me lmao their cope is on another level wuthering waves has everything that genshin has and much more better
@@nikel_gamer9604 i agree
@@nikel_gamer9604this.
That's what I'm saying! People over hyped this game so much, and then they wonder why they get disappointed so badly.
@@nikel_gamer9604 ☝️
its kind of obvious there would be less viewers for twitch on launch because majority of people would be playing it before watching streamers, i dont get what that guys point was
I never have time to watch these streams. They're always when I'm working. If I'm not working I'm playing not watching streams.
also im sorry, but twitch is aterrible metric for video games.
You mostly watch streamers and spam shit in the chat nowadays. Its nice if they play a game you like but many games are not "twitch" friendly and Gacha are absolutely that.
It really shocks me how far people are willing to go to deffend their beloved game and discredit their competitor. It's like you're a honda a fan, a then toyota enters the market and you start shittalking it in every way you can just to "protect" your beloved brand and make sure they stay perpetually in the lead.
Seriously man, competition is good for the market! How can people not understand that? And Genshin really needs competitors, Mihoyo literally shits on the heads of GI playerbase everytime they release an update.
How can someone be so blind to all the issues GI has and to how its playerbase is treated?
WuWa is not a perfect game, it has issues. But at least the devs are aware, they listen to the complaints of their playerbase and are trying to fix it. That's a so much more than I can say about Mihoyo's behavior.
that guy is actually malding 😅
Yup. Genshin community is just mental asylum of gaming community
A decent portion of the gacha gaming community is the asylum of the gaming community
You mean the gacha community. Have ya seen Star Rail's community. 🫠 We're feckin insane and wild on social media. Really giving genshin fans a run for their money. To be fair there's probably some overlap.
if i was tecton3 i wouldn't have lost the argument.
My argument- "P0RN"
True 😂@@akkunichinose3426
watch all chrion last's videos, and learn this WHOLE PLACE (plan_et) is an asylum.
the fact that wuthering waves give 20 pulls for the optimization problem as a compensation, compared to genshin impac 3 pulls in thier 3rd anniversary rewards is insane
Update: they already patch a new optimization update and login issue and the game becomes smoother and better ,+ they will give 10pulls + free 5star on may 26.
What's insane? One game is a failure, the other is at the peak of popularity and has earned billions of dollars. A failed game must somehow compensate for its inferiority.
Go figure why. Oh wait, maybe, just MAYBE, one is peak of the charts consistently while the other one is failing to break top5 on its release lmfao
Again the 3 pulls thing wasn't even anniversary and it was 13 pulls lol
@@caelestemundus5178the meat rider as been found 💀
@@caelestemundus5178 30 million pre-reg failure right, keep sucking it
So thats what kids hating on tectone looks like 😂
This felt like a conversation of between Tectone and another Tectone from a different timeline
I like how very little of of hoyo's launch issues weren't mentioned like when venti could just ult all your artifacts off the map and waste peoples time and expeditions made your characters unavailable lol or no weapon pity (you know what i mean by this) and it costed resin for an event (back when you had 120 as cap lmao) this is just a few. genshin is also a story and exploration game and that only gets story 18 weeks every year and its still fine.
The resin for events nearly killed me if that had not gone I would have stopped playing awhile ago.
The venti and Jean artifact trolls were wild. Devs took months to fix that for absolutely no reason. It shouldve been priority given that artifacts are the core of a gatcha.
I definitely did not did that during launch after getting venti on my 1st 10 pulls on his banner :>
Don't forget all the security issues we had to deal with. Still yet to be seen if we have any in WuWa but Kruo does have some pretty good track records for account security with PGR.
Watching this person desperately trying to make a baseless point is funny af, and Tectone just makes it even better
Probably no one noticed but AFK Journey devs changed Antandra’s voice line for victory. It IS very much possible to fix voicelines past release and whoever says it’s not simply doesn’t know how game dev works.
Edit: to think the number of viewers on twitch would be close to the ore reg numbers is literally insane. There are a LARGE number of people who want nothing to do with twitch or the online community. Lol this is ridiculous.
I have a macro for genshin called "Hoyoskip" in my keyboard, where I place a mouse on place they place options on and it spam left click while watching youtube, the only time I never skip are the one where zhongli and xiao is there because they are the only character worth listening to, and on launch for WW, I did not wanna go to twitch because I don't wanna get spoiled
People talking about Kuro releasing a poor quality game that needs hotfixes as if *every* major release that has online play doesn't see issues they have to deal with over launch week. There is only so much a dev team can do to prepare for launch and then they have to fix things on the fly. It's literally nothing new.
We've a fresh example of that with Helldivers 2, the devs weren't expecting the popularity the game would have, and in one or two weeks they fixed it
genshin didn't have those issues though?
@raulmaltrain6893 ya they only had a bug of showing your phone number which was a bigger issue then bugs
The only reason I don't like wuwa is because I can't download wuwa on any device because they don't meet system requirements and after I downloaded the apk for it the game crashes after every 5 steps ingame😔
@@exoticwolf3547 security issue lmao
This guy named "Tecton3", talk trash with teccy, yap fest for 30 minutes, Lost 5 USD for subbing just to not get ads, Purely L take, gets banned, get farmed by teccy, And generates yt money.
All according to tectones plan lol
It’s just a 100% tectone paid actor
looks like he just got gifted sub, i wonder why he love watching Asmon, Asmon shit talk on every gacha game and player.
@@Nihilism420I’ve seen that idiot in Asmongold’s chat before. He’s a Genshin shill that has a tendency to actively shit on Tectone whenever Asmongold or his chat say anything nice about him.
What I will say is that the combat feels incredible in wuwa, but it doesn’t have the same magic touch as genshin. The first time playing genshin will forever be nostalgic: fighting the dragon in the air, getting our gliding manual from amber, and trying to survive dragonspine’s frost. The characters were so alive! The environment, especially mondstadt, felt so homey and welcoming too. And it doesn’t help wuwa that it’s incredibly laggy in the open world. I’ve already long quit genshin, but I will always hold it near and dear to my heart.
Short reminder, a while back I hit u up about genshin literally taking 4-5 months to fix my IP not being able to update the game or download the game at all and once they did, there was no compensation for the amount of time I lost
That guy really got his 5 dollars worth out of that tier 1 before getting banned lol
I’m playing it on my laptop with 8Gb Ram, when the recommended minimum is 16Gb Ram, and it is running just fine, and I am having lots of fun with it
CPU and GPU?
How you gonna drop this and not your specs
What are other specs?
I have a 3080ti, 32gb ram and a 5700x. Constantly getting frame drops, lag and crashes. Still having fun aswell but it's quite annoying
@@lichmourne00 what are your specs?
i dont think the chatter knows what disingenuous means 😭
Didn’t even realise that whole conversation lasted 26 mins, it’s crazy how they couldn’t apologise or be sympathetic once.
As an ex genshin player I am enjoying wuwa. Combat is way more fast/engaging, way more user friendly at the get-go, and the story isn't even bad?
wuwa combat much much better than genshin
story wise, the story just okay..
music ngl genshin still wins..
I agree but I gotta say I really don't like the story tbh
ngl genshin's only advantage are music, orchestra, live events, and story, other than that the gameplay is so boring and repetitive af
still downloading wuwa to try it out, hope the combat is as good as everyone said
The story is pretty dry. There's nothing offensively bad about it, like being narrated by a certain fairy, but it's definitely like eating a piece of plain toast.
As an active Genshin player, I can tell you something: Genshin is still better (currently), but not *double* the better. It IS, though, double the *price*.
These communities are so toxic. Just enjoy the game bruh. Every single game has bugs more or less and the devs fix it as the time goes on. Just wait a bit for the update, play and enjoy. Stop yapping.
True look at cyberpunk 2077, incredible bounce back
Amen! 🙌🏼
genshin fandoms full of stupid kids
@@juliuskaniava8913 I used to hate that game but now I consider it to be one of the best I have ever played
This is so true. Fuck the drama and the community, just enjoy playing the game
You can have Ass story but if the GAMPEPLAY is fun a game will prevail.
The only thing I think 1.0 Genshin is iconic for is for how bad it was to everything else afterwards. Bro resin at 120!? The story in WuWa isnt anything special but we gonna pretend the Dragonshit arc was good!? Dvalin fight? The joke it was the 1000 of bugs it had ans still has 4 years later (not that it matter now since its dies instantly pretty much) Like what the fuck is that? And this guy saying that shit is good? lil bro really didnt play anything else other that snake on his phone before Genshin
Man 4 years really does make people forget all teh bad shit. What is obvious as well is that Genshin was a very 1st game of its kind and on 1.0 everyone was in honeymoon phase, but there is no denying that 1.0 Genshin is prob the worst Genshin ever was. 1.1 "fixed" a lot of shit and ppl seem to forget that and think some of it was there from launch
Ive seen a lot of people say WuWa's story is confusing and they have no clue what's going on. I'm not even tryna be rude at all but.. how is it in anyway confusing? I understand they throw a lot of random ass terms at us constantly but other than that its pretty simple to follow.
it's because of those terms and also the pacing. being sent on a wild goose chase for coded messages the moment you enter the world and somehow being able to just piece things together feels like the characters know what's going on but the players don't.
the name dropping is pretty bad and the writing is not great but hey, at least I can skip everything
It'd cuz they don't know how to fkn read.
First hour everything was dropped on us with complicated names weird pacing and of course too much yapping in the dialogue
The story I think is pretty much you are a special being with two factions wanting you on their side. The Jianzou-something group getting to you first
that 'didnt even hit 200k + viewers on launch day' comment is just bogus. Genshin also had covid boost and everyone was stuck inside so there was barely anything else to do.
fr bro its sad game gettin very bad rating in Google ply store because i don't want this game to die... i wish it surpass hoyo greedy company
Hit 200k because everyone busy enjoy the game
tof hit 250k lmao the covid cope is stupid because many games came out during covid and nothing had this success, cyberpunk released right after genshin and shit the bed with so many bugs community left till recently
@@CzDelta92 covid boost is an actual thing, tech companies exploded during that time and now have to downsize because less people stay inside and use their products
@@bullettime1116 but why then no other gacha explode like genshin? many released on covid and many died before covid was over too, many highly anticipated games barely grow and became non existant now, is cope atributing all genshin success to covid, ToF released during covid and could not compete with genshin either, even as a non competitor pulled more viewers than wuwa on release
I'm surprised to hear about performance issues because I'm playing on a Google Pixel 7 with nearly zero issues
Same with my 4 year old phone.
i really enjoy Tectone opening up conversations like this and being really civil while the oposition always lose their shit.
To be fair, the Story isn't all that great but it is at least enjoyable. That doesn't mean that it can't be improved. PGR's story also has a rough start but it gets WAY BETTER as it progresses.
I heard act V and VI is really good
I find it really interesting from Chapter 4
Better than genshin ... Worse than HSR
Sadge
I think genshin had a stronger start but fell off later on in the story I think WuWa still start weak but build up like with the patch fixes and how they turned them out fast for players to play
@@toukoenriaze9870I mean hsr makes every other gacha game look 3rd rate just by comparison so it's better to not compare them
Now we are gonna see that dude posting in fb and reddit that tectone banned him for no reason. And the same people who wanted proof of zzz contract being real are gonna trust him without any proof or context
This video made me look up the word disingenuous so many times to make sure I got the meaning right. 😂
"ur saying the devs rolling out emergency hotfixes is good", is it suppose to be bad? huh
Whats confusing about this statement? The implication is that their game is in absolutely mess
@@kiuhh1118it is for a good bunch of people.
I think what he mented was that damage controll this bad shouldnt be praised because it shouldnt even have had to be made in the first place.
@BasedMan88x88bruh last I checked the only one of those that is mobile and free is zzz. And that isn’t even out yet, so you can’t say combat is defacto better
I mean what makes zzz combat better?
I was there in stream.... and man what a journey LMAO
Would've been funny if he gave him vip so that the chat can laugh at him whenever he spoke
Even Genshin fans low key agree that GI story was bad/mid until the final half of Inazuma or straight up until Sumeru, WW is already superior to Monstad and Liyue even if only by a single point, IDK Inazuma though.
They like to compare WW with Sumeru and Fontaine but never dare to talk about the beginning, heck, even HSR fans don't talk about the Chinese space ship much while Chernobog was literally the meme of the dude sleeping in class and suddenly waking up when the "Cocolia Drop" happened, imagine, "Cocolia Drop" being an actual thing as if that's the only memorable thing of that Arc.
I say let WW cook the frickin story too, without Chernobog and Laofu we would not have Penacony, with Monstad and Liyue we wouldn't have Fontaine.
As a day 1 genshin player I can tell you that 1.0 Wuwa absolutely trashes 1.0 Genshin. Many players also didn't enjoy the Sumeru arc coz it felt rushed. Genshin players who keep praising Genshin like it has always been perfect only joined the game when everything was already stable.
@@I_Love_Plump_Grandmas Hey that guy said Genshin came out before COVID. He did NOT play it on day 1.
The only time I agree that Genshin Cooked with story was the later parts of Sumeru arc and entirety of Fontaine arc.
Sure, I enjoyed Monstadt and Liyue and maybe Inazuma, But thats just because GI is my 1st gacha game (Well, there was grand chase back in early 2000) and its nostalgia speaking.
I'm a day 1 Genshin player. You don't want to ask a Genshin player who were there during Inazuma's main quests about it's quality. It was THAT much of a dumpster fire, and the month long gap to wait for mid upon mid to drop was agonizing
My brother in Christ you did not just call Belobog "Chernobog" lmao
Still, valid points
Been playing WuWa on my ipad since yesterday.
Best experience I’ve had playing a game ever. Genshin impact cutscenes literally crashed the game everytime i olayed it 3 weeks after launch.
6:35 i’m pretty sure this guy hasn’t played Genshin during launch
Yep it's definitely Bec of the over hyping of wuthering waves to the point that people forgot games have issues on the first release plus the genshin glazers and the Chinese community basically complaining on everything but genshin
ah yes i remember seeing people complained childe fight cutscene being blackscreen lmao, i think i got one too and just open youtube immediately after
@@vince4503yeah GI launch cutscenes were bugged on my experience as well, it freezes but the audio is still playing. Fortunately that's the only bug I had using the same phone I'm using Wuwa rn, in my WuWa experience is great though, only bugs are the audio cutting mid dialogue.
Honestly WuWa is already better to me because they are actually addressing stuff and fixing it. I've had optimization issues with genshin ever since it came out, but have gotten nothing to help that. I personally haven't had any optimization issues with WuWa but the fact that they are addressing it already puts it higher for me.
I was there live for this, shit made me feel like I’m watching a movie about a mentally ill individual
Ww actually fixing the problems and giving us free 5*
Genshin could never
It genuinely breaks my heart hearing that guy calling the devs incompetent. Bro legit sounds like Karen asking for a manager. Like do you know how hard making a game is? If they're listening and trying to fix it that means they love the game and YOU. If loadouts still ain't a thing then they don't give a fuck about the game and YOU.
So this is the guy who kept saying, Tectone can't beat MoC and PF
I salute you to give this guy attention. Why can't they accept that there are other games out there and coexist.
Like ofc he doesn't represent all WuWa haters, but I honestly respect the guy for pretty effectively bringing up many of the points WuWa haters seem to have just so Teccy can absolutely obliterate them. But bro had the absolute worst case of goal-post moving, acting like:
Guy: "well uh i ACTUALLY mean that THIS is the problem"
Teccy: "well thats not a problem either."
Guy: "okay but like THIS bit is the ACTUAL ACTUAL problem tho"
Teccy: "thats also not a problem. And thats just like, your opinion, man."
Bruh wuthering waves is better than I expected, probably the only gacha I want to play right now, only sucks that my main DPS is Loli 😞
@@lichmourne00 Yo I also gave her inferno bike, she's great DPS 💪
you will get selector later for standard pool, so prepare who you gonna pick now
Won't be for long after that 5 star selector dropping. You'll have Sephiroth in your roster very soon.
Encore is at least cute, and feels like a daughter that you have to take of. Unlike genshin lolis because they're weird
she is actually a cute child atleast, not some weird kid looking 5000 years old granny
15:48 If Genshin was so fun you wouldn’t be trolling a cc covering another game. The fact that they can’t see how they contradict themselves is insane. Just enjoy Genshin if it is so great and stay over there so Wuwa doesn’t get any of your shit feedback
I normally skip stories as well. When I skipped, I felt that I am missing something, so I actually did read the dialogues when it came to the characters I cared about. Honestly I still love Genshin but Wuwa really did have everything I wanted in Genshin, I loved that zippyzip thing and running up walls were really fun and best, I could play on phone for Wuwa
Honestly the only thing holding wuwa back is the bugs which every game has at start
And now because of the performance issue kuro actually will give us 5 selector ticket for free (I don't know that this selector for cn players only or for players global too), this is why genshin could never bro fr
And it's awesome, another freebie, tho I didn't had any performance or technical issues at all
It’s both en and cn
@@suilugferenthon6683same
@@nothingspecialhere541 you mean to say that kuro games doesn't discriminate against its Global community while only pandering only to CN issues and feedback like hoyoverse? 🤯
@@suilugferenthon6683 same on my side, i have a relatively mid pc and game runs stable 60fps with everything on max, free stuff always good
Literally Genshin is paying "youtubers" and "streamers" to talk shit to WuWa 😂 literally is in their new contracts
Not smart it free advertising for the game
Did you read the actual leaked contract or did you breeze through it and start spreading rumors without taking responsibility. If you read the actual contracts, then you would never make comments like you did.
I'm also 100% convinced that Hoyo also hired a bunch of bot farms to shittalk wuwa online. Governments are doing it, politicians are doing it, companies are doing it, they'd be fools not to.
The contracts didn't even mention anything like that
dude even wuwa subreddit shits on the game did hoyo pay them too?
Tectone literally fked that mintpicker up
1:30 I have a giga brain, so I know what the entire paragraph is gonna be based on the first 5 words. There are only like 3 Blue Quests in the entirety of HSR that I haven't skipped. If developers wanted me to pay attention, they would have payed and extra month of rent to the VAs to voice it.
This is why I never play games on the first day because there are always major problems in games discovered on launch that need to be patched. Then I start playing a couple days after launch when the issues get fixed.