Welp, THIS Is What Happened to Another Bad Creation - They Weren't Making Any Money? 🤬
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2022
- Chris, Mark, Red, Dave, Ro, and their DJ G.A., better known as Another Bad Creation, were the cutest little things straight out of the southside of Atlanta. With some help from Michael Bivins, Dallas Austin, and Kevin Wales, they went on to sell millions of albums. But if you blinked, you probably missed their rise and their disappearance. Here’s what happened.
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Sadly, this is the story for a lot of young acts: TLC, ABC etc etc.. Parents gotta learn how to get THEIR OWN lawyer to negotiate these deals!. Stop letting the record company appoint you a lawyer.. Its so sad how often this has happened to people. Those boys couldve had college or trade school paid for with that money.
That’s fact because a lawyer that works for the record company is always gonna look out for the record company.
@@neshundrafuller8347 hell yeah
The parents of The Boys had it right. Their parents developed a business sense so they could protect their children. Fortunately, all of them are productive young men who were not screwed over mentally or physically. Thank God for their protective parents! 🙏🏾
THIS COMMENT RIGHT HERE!! 🗣🗣🗣
Exactly that would just seem like a set up to me smh
All I gotta say is…it’s messed up how Mike and Ralph did them especially after what they went through as kids in New Edition
This!!! This right here. That was wrong. If you go through anything in life you would think to want to help the next person not make the same mistake.
Those are my exact thoughts. That's horrible to repeat the same cycle.
You in Atlanta beautiful
What’s crazy is people adopt the mentality that this is standard practice. I forgot who, but I heard someone say that everyone gets a bad deal for their first contract. So in a way people don’t care because they see it as the standard
We're only getting their side of the story
Girl I wasn't ready for that Jerry curl pic of JD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂!
That’s our favorite pic of him 🤣
That took me out☠️☠️☠️
😂😂
Shocked that ABC was done dirty by the people who were done dirty.Fellas so glad no drugs ,alcohol ruined you
Big facts they did them so wrong smh💯💯😢
That was wrong glad to hear ABC never broke up. Love that group ❤❤❤.
Hurt people hurt people 😔
I will forever be a super fan of ABC. My childhood was awesome because of them.
I remember my mother bought me the album loved it and for some of these comments they were out before Kris kross they paved the way for alot of young artist after including KRISS KROSS
A few years ago I was in my apartment complex and this dude in a red Honda tried to Holla. He asked me where I was from and when I told him he said "oh I was there shooting a music video ". I was like whet. He said he was in ABC then I realized it was Red. He was still using ABC as a pick up line chile
NOOOoOOOoooo! 😂😂😂😂😂
@@rrg lol he was like "oh so you were a fan". I said nah "I liked Kris Kross". Which was true. I didn't like ABC at all lol
That's sad and hilarious 😂
Weak game 💀😂😂
😂😂😂
I'm glad these brothers are still alive and healthy. The music business is so shady!!
Yes exactly ❤❤ glad they are good n healthy
Never knew JD used to be a dancer.... it's good to know that ABC never broke up.
This hurts my heart. What great kids. What a great album that was back in the day. It was fun and cute. God bless them for being together. I hope they are all well. They still make me happy listening to their songs. Great memories I will cherish! You are loved Chris, Mark, Red, Dave, and Ro!
Although I wasn’t born yet, I love their album 😩😭 I still listen to it. Lol.
One thing I can say about the music business it doesn’t matter who’s in charge or a rather they are white or black they both would do you wrong when it comes to that money if you don’t have a good lawyer to look over that contract to make sure that you are getting paid they would just let you live a fantasy of being famous while they just collect the money and this is what they do to a lot of artists. They did it to TLC and so on and so on.
It was everything back then coming up in Los Angeles
When money is involved someone signs a CON-tract and gets Conned afterwards
It's a shame that Mike Bivens grew up and treated his artists the way he was treated.
Right like you know how it feels to not get the money you deserve and you still messed over more people .. I guess it’s true hurt people hurt people
Yeah good thing boys to men and him separated who knows where they would b if they were still under his management
@@shannonjefferson874 LOVE N.E for Life& Mike IS Cooler than a Fan, BUT I Believe the Holy Divine One Set this in order To teach Mike a lesson RE: Why N.E.(& BBD)Took Soooo many years of where they had a GAP in Success of Record sells from that '91-'03 ONE LOVE came out in 2004.👏🏽YOU👏🏽 CAN👏🏽 NOT 👏🏽TREAT 👏🏽GOOD👏🏽People👏🏽 in ANY Dirty , backhanded way,and then think the Good Lord WILL Bless your hand in your successes or ADD to those Blessings. He SHOLL nuff Resist the Proud,&give Grace to the Humble).
Boys II Men probably got hip to How Mike B Played &Got over on ABC& They learned Early on ..hey Let's Bounce NOW (when they left his BIV 10 label )so they Wouldn't get GOT‼️
Mike. & Possibly Ralph too had Some Kind of Mentality of Gotta get Mine, before you get Yours and Deep down didn't Believe/Realize the Irony of How THEY(NE) got Played,insomuch basically turned Around and Mistreated those Baby boys the Same Way. Mike Only saw Potential $Signs. Which AGAIN IS IRONIC bc out of All the N.E Members HE is the One who took initiative to KNOW the ins/outs of the Music Biz so NOO body else would get over on them EVER Again🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🙆🏾🤦🏽Make it make SOME kind of sense BIV‼️
@@rissaceehart4076 & he wrecked Jus & Lil Nique later.
@@tonyac6142 music industry is satan just look at all artist in end they be broke and lose all they masters . they dont even own they work when another company buy record company and company own your masters it transfer over to music companies. it stupid you did all that work for nothing and cant even make generational wealth off your music
That's crazy how bivens did then the same way new edition was done you would think he would have done the opposite knowing how it feels to get bamboozled as a kid
Yep. Same thing I said. He should have advocated for them harder.
Exactly. He did Subway, and all his other artists that way, as soon as Boyz II Men really blowed. His karma was that they politely cut him out of the equation as soon as they could. 702 did the same.
Exactly!!! In New Edition’s biopic, he told a group they should’ve read the contracts better. He officially became my least favorite member of New Edition. For lack of a better word, he was bogus for that 💩.
Exactly, I never liked his big teeth as!
@@abundantlyblessednocap472
lol Word.
He just look shady.
This is why education is important, no matter what you do !
I hate that another young group got screwed like this. However, it's good to know they never broke up! That's real friendship right there.
I never knew the nephew of Ralph Tresvant was Dave of Another Bad Creation. Wow, that is something new to me. That was never mentioned in interviews up until now. I was a Another Bad Creation fan.
That's how you know destiny was at work.
I was today years old when I found out that Kris Kross was sneak dissing ABC on “Jump Jump”! I NEVER made that correlation! They came out when I was about 10 so I guess psychologically it wasn’t that deep for me. It’s a shame what happened to them. It’s truly difficult for young artists to grow up & still be relevant in the music industry. Especially if their music is more “trendy” than “classic”. Out of this bunch I think TLC were the only ones to sustain longevity.
Disappointed ☹️ this sort of thing goes on. These were kids
Everyone knew that 😂
@@SundaywithSamuel Apparently not… good for you though! 😒
They literally say "Dont try to compare us to Another Bad Little Fad".
@@maximusprime3459 I was 10 at best when this song came out. I wasn’t necessarily looking for lyricism 🙄. Some of us just wanted to dance.
So pretty much ALL of our favorite artists from the 70s, 80s, 90s and even before were getting robbed by their labels and management
The willingness for people to be absolutely predatory toward children is shameful.
They have parents though. No one under 18 can enter any contract, and parents aren’t even mentioned in this video. So for all we know they were paid, and the parents were spending their money.
@@Boobalopbop we don’t know that because there’s no evidence of these particular parents spending the money. The industry is predatory in general, and children are uniquely vulnerable to financially exploitative contracts. I do find that shameful. If you don’t, that’s fine. We can peacefully disagree.
@@taotaostrong I find it shameful too, but they legally could not have those kids sing on an album being produced for sale without permission from the parents. That’s just a fact. If no deal was ever made, then all those boys, who are now men can sue and easily win.
@@Boobalopbop yes. I know how contracts work.
J? D?
This is really sad. I don’t understand how people sleep at night knowing they’re taking advantage of others. I’m so sick of these predators.
On another note, I had no idea Kriss Kross came at them so hard. I was a kid back then so I guess all that stuff went right over my head. Wow!
Same!!!
Me too lol
How did yall not know this? They literally start off their first hit single saying dont try to compare us to another bad little fad? Lol
IKR...and somebody ( Jermaine Dupre..wink!!)..sittin on the couch..help Kriss/Kross come for em too...a shame n spiteful how we do us
Illegal and Shyheim destroyed all these kid rappers.
Man, I hope Biv wouldn’t do them like that! If anything he should understand more than anybody how it feels to put in all that work to get nothing in return. New Edition is one of the poster child cases of what it is to get taken advantage of by the industry smh.
I hope neither he nor Ralph did. I'm an NE fan, and knowing their struggle, would hate to think they were doing this to others. Personally, I think they were young and inexperienced, plus they were having issues of their own with their labels. Mike did talk about that in his interview with the breakfast club.
Thank you for this update. I personally loved The Boys, ABC, and Kriss Kross in that order. Had the biggest crush on Hakeem from The Boys, Red from ABC, and though lighter Kris was cute. I NEVER knew they had connections with JD. If so, they probably would've went further than being with Michael Bivens... His focus was mainly on BBD and Boyz II Men. But then again, Bow Wow and Da Brat are the most consistent artist with So So Def (Kris Kross fell off after a few hits and definitely haven't heard anything from Dem Franchise Boyz or Jagged Edge).
A lot of ABC's family members are here leaving comments, so everyone please be respectful as always and keep it cute ❤
Where is Marliss? 😩 did he comment?
@@jennykerolle8983 Family members, not the group...yet lol
@@rrg well let me know when he comment 🤣
@@jennykerolle8983 We left links to their Instagram accounts in the description box too if you're trying to shoot your shot 😂
@@rrg never too late I guess 😆
Good to hear despite their brief success they haven't slipped into despair like so many former child stars
theboys also did well, he mastered everything and quickly bounced back and made another group
Criss cross did though 1 of them dead.
@@spazarellapoet8735 yes had heard it is sad
Agreed! I was waiting for the narrator to say that 2 of them were in jail or something and was surprised when she said they went to college, started families and lived normal lives.
@@hocine6539 Chris Kelly Died of a drug overdose
Very sad, what makes it's so sad is the parents were not involved enought. They should have done their due diligent of researching, and seeing that they had a manager that could be trusted and the group should of had their own entertainment attorney to guide them, to see that they were paid treated accordingly.
Nice to see that the guys are still connected... true brotherhood
I am the auntie of Chris and Romell. Unfortunately I was unaware of what really happened with their money. This really shed light on the music industry. Just Wow!
We hope they are doing well and thanks so much for watching ❤️
Chris and Romell are related? I never knew that.. The music industry will ruin peoples lives.. I hope they are all doing ok.. I still listen to their music 🎶
@@jennykerolle8983 Yes, we mentioned in the video they are cousins ❤
@@rrg they are doing good. Thanks 🙏 for sharing this information with us.
@@denisesellersking3791 please let them know they still have fans out here! I know every song on the first album til this day. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I had the biggest crush on Mark! Let me know if he's single Auntie lol
ABC was a pretty good group but they were children so the parents should've secured attorneys to read the fine print of the contracts. Those young boys didn't understand nothing and grown people took advantage of them.
These record labels,managers,handlers always take black youth from the projects ( New Edition,TLC,to name a few ) groom them,make as much money off them,then ignore them.No one in these kid's families ever think to hire a lawyer ( some/most problably can't afford one or take the word of the kid's manager )while the managers,record labels make a fortune.
👍THIS!!!🎯💯👍
People back then were very trusting, unfortunately. They usually found out too late that they needed a lawyer
Agreed! The probably gave the parents a few pocket change to satisfy them for the time being & promised more.
Sad 😞
They will forever be part of my childhood. Love and hugs to them!💖
Thanks for this. I always wondered what happened. Bivens should have looked out for these boys because he knew first hand how it feels to tour the world and get dropped off back in the projects.
Yep I hangout with one of them in a studio in Atlanta decades ago he was telling me face to face it's a dirty business. Wishing them blessings.🦁👑
The Janet Jackson gif after mentioning Jermaine Dupri 😭😭.
We can't stand ourselves 😂😂
Shady...😂😂😂
Right 🤣🤣
🤭😆😂🤣😭💀💀💀
The Junior Lords from the Meteor Man 😂😂😂😂
I loved them in the second and third grade. My mom brought me their cassette tape and I listened to it and day dreamed for hours. As kids we loved the song Iesha because it was my mom's name.
These kids were very talented for the time in the 90's.
It's more expensive to take children on a tour than adults. They need tutors to continue their education and have to maintain certain work hours due to child labor laws. Since the industry adults around them were making their money, they didn't care to take on the responsibility of making a tour happen. That's sad because they did a great job and deserved to get handsomely paid.
They did deserve to go on tour! Kris Kross went on tour...with Michael Jackson for christ sakes!🤣 They were the opening acts on the Dangerous Tour....actually, that could explain it a bit...there would be a lot of $$$ behind a Michael Jackson tour and since only 2 kids in Kris Kross to have liability over as opposed to ABC having 6,7 kids to be liable for could get very expensive!
Never thought of it that way. Kids also need chaperones and to be separated from the adults on tour, otherwise they would be exposed to all kinds of seedy activities (sex, drugs, alcohol...) while on the road with adult males. Maybe these boys turned out ok because they DIDN'T go on tour, could've been a blessing in disguise, remember one of the Kris Kross members ended up a drug addict. He probably started while on the road with adults and away from his parents.
You're right if you blink you missed their 15 mins of fame, I actually forgotten all about them!
Yea crisscross killed them🤣🤣🤣
Me too if I'm honest! 🤦🏾♀️
What?!!
The fact that Michael bivins did this to a kid group is truly sad when the same thing was done to him and New edition when they were kids
Bivins is no good.Never cared for him
They all do it unfortunately anytime you see an artist with their own label that's a subsidiary of a major label all that tells you is the artist got robbed and confronted the label and this is the major labels way of "paying them back" they tell the artist how they robbed him and make him go out to find some fresh dummies that they can rob together. And the cycle goes on. The music business is a crime syndicate nothing more nothing less
@adriennerobinson1180 yea I'm seeing how they tried to build him up to be this great guy in the N E movie. I knew there was lies behind it all. His big headed self. People need to know this, I don't like him being applauded as this great business guy. When he out to get over on them too
The industry did it to New Edition, and Mike Bivins did to his artists. Never-ending cycle.
true
Literally worked them until they got what they wanted out of them smh. It’s sad because these young men were definitely doing there thing. I never forgot about them. Glad they are still together And still have a love for performing. Peace and Blessing to these young men.
Not shocked... but definitely disturbed. I grew up watching a lot of the artists that you do pieces on... and I find it difficult to be disappointed that my life didn't go into that industry as an artist. So many sad stories and outcomes.
Agreed. I feel for entertainers. I think they all find out too late that their career path is not what they believed it'd be.
Sad but True SMH
This. I can sing, but as I've been privy to the industry as an entertainment writer throughout my career, I saw the shadiness and wanted no parts of it.
😩That Jermaine Dupri throwback photo.🤣
Hi RRG! Thank you for telling these stories with compassion and hilarity lol the sly shady pics and comments took me down (JD being so short and Janet smiling made me scream 😂). I wasn't a fan of ABC (I've always been an old soul), however I'm sad that Biv did them so wrong...how immature and vengeful. Just grateful they are still alive. *Meteor Man is one of my fave movies!
it's disheartening how many shady people, especially in the entertainment industry, are just waiting for the next person to come around, so they can use them. I understand it takes money to make a record, and especially shows and music videos, but the actual artist(s) shouldn't ever get anywhere near the smallest piece of the pie.
This is just another example of how ruthless and shady the music and entertainment business is in this case with music so called adults took total advantage of some talented young black kids and their families and to make it even mone trifling and shifty you own people were doing the same and biv having experienced what they industry does still let this happen these and other music entertainers deserve better especially from our own but unfortunately that's not always the case so please stop with the excuses of they should have read the contract bull because most of you wouldn't know how to read one black men and women and young music entertainers have been and continue to. exploited by now just white executives but also black see jz,puffy and others and for you that support and praise them what the hell did they do for you except take your hard earned money and run with it have they really given back and im not taking about some donations to some group her or there but helping pool their billions and build affordable housing for blacks creating more jobs and opening clinics for mental health and substance abuse helping stem some of the violence in our communities when these start taking place given them some appreciation until then stop riding on a train that you have no ticket to get on God bless you Abc glad to see all of you have stayed together thru all the storms of life
yeah but I wonder if the really made all that much. they made TV and show appearances that pays little to nothing. albums sales paid for the items above and the people who helped them and their pay that was split 6 ways. and they didn't tour. i think it's because they didn't have enough material for a whole concert they only really had the one song. They feel differently but its true..(Kriss Kross didn't tour either just a handful of performances at other people's shows again maybe 2 known songs tops) and the second album flopped. I know people definitely get taken advantage of but im not sure thats the case here i dont think they made what they thought they deserved
@@hootsaidtheowl you made some valid points and you're not wrong but even though their careers were shot lived and their catalogs were small they didn't make what they deserved for that period of time that on top of yes splitting up really 5 ways because the producer gets his first then everything else management, agent, publicist and a few others that pie is now crumbs my biggest problem is that you had someone who had been in the game seen how the industry can be because they experienced what type of business it was a didn't better prepare them to understand the business side
@@hootsaidtheowl abc 1st album sold 2mil copies. Back then a cd cost about $15 and cassette was probably about $10. Times that by 2mil and it’s roughly 25-30 mil…which is astronomical. The backend expense to fund the album should’ve left them with more then half that amount for profit. So somebody made bank off those boys hard labor to make and talent.
They could’ve did a small promotional tour off that album maybe 10 or so shows that could’ve at least put a little money in those boys pockets. Sure they wouldn’t have been able to live like kings the rest of their lives off just one album. And if their parents screwed over their money then that’s fkd up for sure. But then that’s why mike biv should’ve put part of that profit from the abc album and if not hand it to the boys at that moment, at least set up a separate trust fund for each of them that they couldn’t touch til they turned 21 that potentially could’ve been worth a few hundred grand, maybe half a mil each once they were legally old enough to access it themselves. Those boys were taken advantage of, period.
Them kids went 2 times platinum,,they made somebody alot of money,,enough to where they paid back the money for videos and stuff..Alot of artist take gifts and think thats for doing a good job and its a present but at the end its coming out of your own money..Look how suge done his artist,,gifting them with cars and houses but never put any of it in their names and when they fell out he took his shit back..Pac thought he bought his mom a house but it end up being Suges house cause wen Pac died he had people go over there and move Pac mom and aunt things out the house..
They were cute but I never thought they had staying power. Im just glad to see that they're all alive and well. Great video!
Several people have said that in the comments. Why didn't you think they had staying power?
@@rrg imo they had a fad vibe to them from what I remember they're music was bubblegum and never evolved
@@delsgurl4133 I was about to say the same. Many kid acts had a poor shelf life. The Jacksons, New Edition and New Kids on the Block managed to stand the test of time.
Me too. I forgot about them boys/men. The late 80s and early 90s were on FIRE with these,kids/teen-groups and rap,R &b music.
@@powerbad696 So true. Hi-Five just came to mind, which RRG just did a video on ironically lol.
Not jermain dupri and his jerry curl getting lost in the shuffle 😂
Now see, that's why I love this channel so much! All this time and as many times as I've heard the Kriss Kross song, I never made the connection that some of the lyrics in Jump were disses at ABC, lol. Okay, now yall have to do a segment on Kriss Kross. I had no idea that one Chris died?!
"At the playground..." That part made me laugh. It was still the jam.
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I'm so shocked! I had no idea jump was a diss track!!😳😮
Never know they actually have a beef in past?
Same! I still jam to that song; thinking it's just a fun song. Never sensed any beef.
Yall was under a rock then the youngsters diss Kris kross
So glad these brotha’s are well and thriving. We will always love your music; keep ya heads up because blessings will always be will you Chris, Mark, Red, Dave, and Ro!!
This was great, thank you. I always wondered what happened to Chris, Mark, Red, Dave, & Ro
Loved them when they came out and as much as I wish them success, I don’t wanna see grown men performing the songs they created as kids 😩😩😩
LOL we agree....the songs don't hit the same with the deep manly voices 😂
@@rrg Right! 🤣🤣🤣
NEW EDITION were KIDS when they first came out, & they are now OLD MEN still performing hit songs from their FIRST ALBUM.
So whats the problem ??
@@anythinggoesvideospart-2242 They also recorded music when their voices changed so it's not the same.
@@rrg Im sorry, that makes no sense . Regardless they still performing Songs like CANDY GIRL as grown men.
Yeah I heard them dudes was not getting paid…. One of the guys said in a video “They knew it was coming to an end when the stop getting calls from the label” pretty sad
That's terrible 😩
That's wrong m sad that they used them n made money off them n not pay them nothing sad Mike is evil
I'm not shocked anymore; just saddened as more of these and similar stories come to light. Also relieved that it never really worked for me. Turns out I'm happy where I am.
Interesting... Another Bad Creation. I have fond memories of only two of they records. _Iesha_ and _Playground_ is all I know and care about. They came out right when I started getting into music. I was always listening to the radio, watching music videos and of course snooping around my dad's tape and vinyl collection. My big cousins and I made a step to _Iesha._ They always allowed me to join because they knew that I was a quick learner and I could keep up. My big cousin had they debut LP on cassette, but I don't remember listening to the whole thing. In 1990/1991, 'twas all about Johnny Gill, En Vogue, Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. Oh, and Samuelle's _So You Like What You See._ My dad and I used to always sing and dance to that cut. Folks don't remember it, but I sure do. Anyway, circling back to Another Bad Creation, I knew it was it for them when I saw they sophomore LP in stores w/o a lick of promotion. Even back then I knew when an artist's/band's time was up. Whenever an artist had hella promo behind they project, I knew they were good. For example, Wxrner Brxs. Records used to give Madonna Ciccone cutouts, posters, bumper stickers, keychains, etcetera. I knew that 1992's _Nastee_ was it for Kwamé Holland. His label ain't give him diddlyquat. Hell, they barely played the videos from that LP. Imma just hold onto the fond memories I have of Another Bad Creation's _Iesha_ and keep it movin'. That tune reminds me of: putting a seashell on my ear and hearing the ocean, _Candy Land, Monopoly,_ making steps w/ my cousins, red Squeez Its, them lil' light-up Payless shoes, bean bags and lemon-scented stickers.
NOT Samuelle "So You Like What You See"???! I bust out laughing when I read that LOL. Yes we definitely grew up around the same time. Payless light up shoes and Prowings for me LOL. Penny candy and Kool-Aid LOL. ABC was around the time when I was still very young but old enough to where I called myself noticing the girls. It was that innocent time of seeing a girl and knowing she may like you too. Great times and memories, playing with cousins at the park and riding our bikes
Dang, never knew “Jump” was dissing them. Thank you for another awesome video!!!! 💛💛💛💛
I would have thought Ralph Tresvant and Micheal Bivens would make sure ABC would recurve a good contract from their own experience in New Edition's bad contracts.
They were trying to recoup the money they lost? 😭
What does Bobby have to do with this?
He didn't have anything to do with ABC.
@Nevin Reid again your stating that they we're trying to get what they lost. Mike signed them to his label. One of the members was Ralph nephew. But in the video Bobby is never mentioned. So what foes he have to do with ABC?
OMG!! I’ll never forget when ABC visited my school back in the day!!! I still get excited thinking about that day!! Lol! I was in the 6th grade! 😍😍😍
My very first concert ever was another Bad Creation …. C&C music factory was the headliner and Salt n PePa was there too .
I was 11 I think
That's wild The guys needed their parents and a good lawyer. They needed to be informed about the music business
Who was going to tell them the internet in 1992
Youd think Ronnie being the cousin of one of them wouldve given some insight or help with that too
@@dont_at_me__ yeah right he anit know shit either
what kind of parents were the parents, first??
@@chriss4357 what type of stupid question is that. You think the parents know the music business
Young artists have always gotten taken advantage of. Parents unfortunately are so glad someone is putting their children on, they don't read the fine print on the contracts.
Yes I always wondered what happened to the group Another Bad Creation, I was a little girl when they came out I was about five or six years old and I remember singing and dancing around to their songs and watching their music videos and even as a teenager. That is so crazy how some music artists and music groups get shaded in the music industry. That is good to hear that they didn't break up as group, if Another Bad Creation does a tour I sure would go see them in concert.
Damn they got played also I would have thought Mike Bivins would not have been on BS like that especially after what him and new edition went thru as child starts. I never knew they had a second album
EXACTLY 💯 Bivins was about what he could get out of them.Terrible
That clip of Janet Jackson laughing took me out 😂 The shade at Jermaine!
I thought I was the only one who caught that🤣🤣🤣
Michael Bivins was the main one complaining about Maurice Starr stealing money from New Edition. Now, he ended up with a group who feels the same way about him. Basically, business is business. Parents need to encourage creativity but prioritize education and stability. Two albums is more than a lot of groups accomplish. Take the good with the bad. Iesha and Playground are classics from that era. I loved the songs but the group looked weird to me, a few were really little kids, not all teens. They didn't all look the same age the way New Edition did. I never understood the point. It wasn't like a family of brothers where you could explain why they all were hanging out together at different ages (like Jackson 5).
At the playground, ya know, plaaaay grouuuuuuund. 🤣😂
You're right. They weren't the same ages. NE only had like a 2 year age difference among all the members, whereas I believe ABC had as much as a 4-5 year age difference among themselves.
Definitely agree with the different ages part. Those boys deserved to get the money they were due, but idk how much further the group would have went even if it wasn't a bunch of mess involved.
You sound stupid I never that ish and you know it stop playing self
To new edition defense they discovered themselves and did it until they were teenagers without money the parents shouldve fired the managers and got one that actually cared like new edition did to gary
So many memories came back after watching this thanks
"Don't compare us to another bad little fad" - kriss kross
🌬️💨💨💨 Mike Bivins did the exact same thing to these boys that the Managers of New Edition did to them when they were young and dumb!
Through his label Biv10 he got half of all of his artists earnings!! He has a lot of nerve to talk about how New Edition was done wrong and taken advantage of, but yet he exploited these kids...SHAME ON HIM!
That's why he got a lawyer so they won't sue him wish they did n win their case bc Mike is dirty
2:54 y’all 🌚 for that one 😂🤣😂🤣😂
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This is amazing! I really love this.
THANK YOU THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for sharing this!!! I ABSOLUTELY remember Another Bad Creation, and I ALWAYS wondered what happened to them!!!💯 My heart is kind of broken knowing that they WERE very hard working young men, and the "music industry" which I've always heard about was to blame!!!😤😮I guess I should have known!😔 They WERE the originators of the backwards clothing, and Kris Kross was BITING!!! Jermaine Dupri...You should be ASHAMED...I'm TOTALLY HAPPY to know that they are still together as a group as they've gotten older, I really liked ABC!!!!❤🥰💙Chris, Mark, Red, Dave, Ro...#Ronnie #Bobby #Ricky #Mike This has TOTALLY made me happy, just a bit sad because of all the time has gone by...😢
The sad thing is when you're poor and talented you are just eager to sign on the dotted line. Nobody had a business background or knowledge of how crooked the music industry is. Im so glad they're not strung out. They look decent.
Exactly they don’t read the fine print they gotta read the fine print
Mike got his own lawyer he had it planned out bc by them being young n want to be on stage n make music n have fun he didn't want their parents saying nothing n reading the contract I wish they would've sued him
It's shocking to see the music industry do this to yet another group, but after watching the NEW EDITION story, I'm not surprised.
They were literally signed to Mike's record label and he robbed them like New Edition got robbed
@@CleanMusicLover229 same way he did boys to men...even in the movie there's a scene where Mike's on the phone asking them did they really read there contract implicating he know he just robbed them
And for a New Edition member to do it is worst
@@simpsetbobbo6573 I remember that scene. Kinda sad. We should be helping each other to improve things not continue the negative trend.
I’m so sorry that happened to you guys. I love you all still. I grew up watching you guys. I’m proud of y’all No Matter what. Look at it as God saving you all from being turned out sell outs.. Y’all are men real men. Doing big things even if it’s not on the big screen
I remember the playground song getting a lot of airplay at the enlisted night club after coming back from Desert Storm in March 91’ when I was stationed at Fort Stewart GA 89’ to 92’.
Ralph and Mike both know how being stole from feels. They should have looked out for the guys and made sure they didn't get taken advantage of. Smh
Welp
2 dirty horses huh???🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yesssss ❤🙌🏽 I've always wondered what happened to them. They were dope 🔥🔥
Hope you enjoy it!
The evil people behind these groups using kids as puppets and not even looking out for there well being is disgusting. Never ever ever sign anything with doing what you love
When you think about it though it's the parents' fault. They had to handle the signings unless they handed over power of attorney.
SO VERY DISTURBING AT A HIGHER LEVEL!!🤬🤬🤬
I remember b2M,ABC,BBD ,and House party for defining my life in 1989/1990. I am who i am because of these times! Chris
"Another Bad Contract" would have been a more fitting name. 🤷🏿♀️
Harsh but factually true!
Dam. Totally accurate
They need a UNSUNG documentary
But they wouldn't wanna upset Bivins
No they a fucking lawyer!!
We just watched it..
EXACTLY 💯
@@wefinnasee7067damn him he used them made money off them he was getting paid when they weren't just sad took advantage of them that's just why he had a lawyer so he can make money off them n use them Mike ain't shit he should know how it felt when it happen to them but no he's a user look at what he tried to do with Ralph replace him with johnny
This was a great video, thanks for making it. I didn't really grow up listening to them, but stumbled onto their songs like 10-15 years ago, lol.
I think one video that needs to be done is an update video on all the artists from that "East Coast Family 1-4-All-4-1" music video. I've never heard of anyone from that video other than Boys 2 Men, lol. I really wanna know the story behind "Fruit Punch", "Tom Boyz", "10 10" and all those other people, lol.
It's a shame there's not much information on old groups like this
This one hit home! 1 of their mother's were my sweet 16 for a minute? 💯 Recently gave me some inside of her sons experiences with those Demon's in charge of Them! 💝😡The way we let our own take advantage of us so Sad?
Sadly, I figured this is what happened to them. At least it wasn’t worse.
The names that we have allowed the wicked music industry to give us is mind boggling “Another Bad Creation” 🤦🏾♀️ 😳
Yes l thought the same about that
People used "bad" to mean good in those days.
@@dapperfan44 lol exactly
Awe how sweet, not bad they did & are still performing💕!
I absolutely loved this group when I was coming up…their song jealous guy in our town still a bop in 2022 lol 😂😅 thanks for taking me back way back to my childhood
Why I’m I grilling burgers 🍔 and watching RRG lol 😂. I had long “Jheri Curls” and my “Starter” baseball shirts as well lol. My little brother wanted to fight ABC because his little sweetheart was in love with them lol. I get on my brother all the time about it. Thank you so much RRG for once again bringing the heat. Hopefully this time we’re not going to have any heart broken trolls bothering us lol 😂
Not lil bro tryna fight 😂😂😂 Thanks for always stopping by and don't worry, we'll handle the trolls ❤️
@@rrg my little brother was going to mail ABC a letter talking about where they can fight at lol 😆. I had to take the letter out of the mailbox before the mailman arrived lol 😂🤣. But I didn’t know ABC was still performing, because Ayesha has to be a grandma now lol. Keep bringing the heat RRG I will definitely be here waiting
I still listen to them and perfect gentlemen
Love them!
Ooh la la by perfect gentlemen was my jam..
@@blasianluvschocolate397 and rings around the moon and tell me again lol memories
@@jensendavenport1406 yes but they can't touch my ooh la la joint..brings back some good innocent memories..lawd have mercy 🥰
@@jensendavenport1406 crush by Rob base...lawd have mercy again 🥰
Thanks this was my favorite group growing up😍
Glad you enjoyed it!
They are another victim of the Unscrupulous Music Industry but I am glad they all have remained friends and united throughout the years.
That part about David being Ralph Tresvant's nephew had me asking questions. Definitely not judging because you never know what folks go through, but seems they could have by-passed strangers - stylist and her friend and went straight to the successful uncle and why was he singing for money for food? Anyway just had me in my thoughts.
Well first, NE hadn't exactly made a lot of money either. I heard Rickey Bell recently say, he has never seen a New Edition royalty check to this day. Another thing, the part about him being Ralph's nephew, if I remember correctly he wasn't actually his nephew. I believe it was something along the lines of the nephew of Ralph's then girlfriend that would later become his first wife or something like that. He might have been a close friend's son or something, but I don't believe he was actually a nephew of Ralph's, at least that's the way I remember it back then.
the whole music industry is based on nepotism
I ain’t know that either
Romel Chapman is my cousin. His maternal Grandmother is my Father's baby sister. Unfortunately both have transitioned, but we still keep in touch. His Dad, my first cousin is a Pastor.
We are very sorry for your losses ❤️
Childhood. Great video
All the parents fault… they weren’t involved enough. No way my child is in the entertainment business and I don’t get a lawyer.
I bought Word Up Magazines just to get their posters out. When they dropped their 1st album I begged my brother to buy it. I hate they didn’t get what was owed for their hard work to end up where they started.
Wow! My mind wants to stay stuck on remembering them as just the way they were and looked as kids. Great to see them as buddies before and still after the fame and pain. Stay blessed.
How could Mike Biv let that happen knowing NE went through the same bs as kids?
I was so in love with this group. Redd was my favorite. I never knew what happened to them. Thanks so much RRG for the info! I hate they got cheated out of so much bc they were children and didnt understand the business.
Omg so glad you did this video because I always wondered why they fell off. I had a huge crush on Chris from ABC at the time. I wished they never ditched Jermaine because he was the main guy to would of took them far
Maybe JD dirty too look at what he did to Kriss kross
It was a SHAME how they went from a Platinum album and then nothing. Motown was on their way down a LONG spiral down during this time too.
I truly am grateful for u making me accountable to me putting in the work frfr peace .forever grateful for your guidance I'm forever charged. ❤❤
I used to love them as a kid!!!!!!