That's the point when I stopped giving the series any benefit of the doubt. Only reason why people didn't laugh their asses off at that point is because of the sentimentality to Paul Walker's death, which they were very much and still is banking on.
I stopped caring after Fast 4, skipped Fast 5 and saw Fast 6 in my college dorm. The entire thing was absurd, but when I saw THAT scene omg I lost it 😭😭 like what has this franchise become and how lmao
I still say when Dom flipped his car at the end of the first movie he actually did not survive unscathed. Instead, he was critically injured, and every F&F movie that has come after with him in it has been his dreams while he lays in a coma in a hospital bed. This also explains why each movie gets more and more far fetched given he is losing his grip on reality....plus the whole time his "family" is at his bedside, which is why family is so important to him.
Tokyo Drift was actually one of the best in the series imo. It had a strong theme of drifting, the yakuza, self-improvement and trying to fit in a strange culture that hates anyone outside of it. I liked the actors also way more, and it had an actual tension all the way through. I think it was waay underrated.
It’s the best of the series; it feel so much more grounded, using Tokyo as a backdrop combined with the Japanese car scene just gives the movie this energy that’s so different to the rest of the movies. I think Sean is a solid character but that’s Han’s movie I’d say top 3 is easily Tokyo Drift Fast Five The Fast and The Furious
@@Co-nm8ntbeen to Japan is different to moving to Japan. A lot of foreigners who moved to Japan discusses that Japanese don't 100% accept you they welcome but they also like to remind you that you are a gaijin
Rewatching 1-5 is crazy, you see how different the world/tone/dialogue is, they clearly saw Avengers while working on 6 and decided to blend their franchise with MCU style
@@jimjaspers3050 I agree, but Five was kinda the last movie of the series that had some of the soul of the previous movies, after that... well, here we are.
My buddy has talked about this for years. He calls it F&F effect. After so long, characters will always become super heroes if they get enough sequels.
Rambo and the last couple Die Hard movies come to mind. James Bond occasionally becomes cartoonish (Pierce Brosnan paragliding down an avalanche comes to mind). I’m not fully bought into this idea, but it’s interesting nonetheless
The fact that Gal Gadot is being considered to return to the franchise after being skidded off an airplane launch way is enough for everyone to know where this series is at.
Considered to return? I'm guessing you haven't watched the last one then. And I wouldn't usually post potential spoilers, but is it really a spoiler that someone in FF isn't actually dead at this point?
The Hulk stomp breaking the concrete for only Shaw to fall through is one of the funniest and most ridiculous things I've ever seen. I laughed out loud at that one and fully expected the camera to zoom in on Dom as he says "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" and tear off his shirt as he turns green.
I know you made that Hulk joke to be funny but ironically that's what Dom and the FF franchise is to Universal studios. Universal Studios is still in a long staring match with Marvel over the Hulk rights and still won't make a movie for him while also not giving Marvel much free reign with the Hulk for the MCU(which is mostly why he went zero for Infinity War and beyond). So they made Vin Diesel's Dom and FnF be their cinematic comic book summer block buster stand in for their Hulk license. So Dom is defacto Hulk in a sense.
It's an interesting state of affairs in the world of cinema when out of two Vin Diesel played characters, Riddick lives in a universe more grounded in reality than Dominic Toretto.
@@davebyrd1394 indeed. Up until Fast 6, or whatever the actual name is, the consequences were still real. I agree with the consensus, that the moment the series went into superhuman territory was when Dom rescued Letty, by propelling himself through the air, catching her and landing on a windscreen at the end of the ridiculous tank and bridges scene. Now unless a character is a villain, Vince, Elena or maybe Jacob, there's always a chance they will come back somehow.
Vin Diesel went from "No, don't do sequels to Fast & Furious, that will ruin the greatness of the original" to "give me all the money, I want creative control, I want in my contract that I never lose, I want exploding remote controlled submarines, I want superpowers, I want all the powers, I want at least 10 more sequels".
"And I want them all to be in considerations for Oscars because they are actually serious stuff when you think about it and Jason Mamoa is taking away from that."
I haven't even seen the last 3 entries in this franchise. Just watching the trailers were enough for me. I'm probably in the minority, but I enjoyed these movies when they were about street racing. Now they are just your average over the top spy action movies. Meh...
@@jeezus666you’re not in the minority. You’re in the majority it’s just most of us still have some hope that the movies aren’t as bad as the trailers. Imo the first 3 movies are the best in the series and the series should’ve ended at 7
The thing is, he is a producer as well. Which means his ego was/is through the roof to write himself to be essentially captain America. Dom is literally supposed to be a mechanic.
@@docsays The character development is so crazy. Like one day they're a mechanic, the next a rocket scientist. It's ludicrous and embarrassing. At this point surely they know it's a comedy movie?! I'm not sure if anyone within the fast world is taking this seriously
@@Breathe-Music - speaking of ludicrous, he was organizing races in F2, then somehow in F5 he is this cyber security/IT specialist! Like, wth? 🤨 His explanation: “i had a former life” 😆😆😆
@@docsays 😂 He must taken an IT course between movies. Oh he's also an expert in martial arts now and somehow that's the most believable part of any of this
Ok so that was actually the first and only fast and furious movie I ever saw and up until this video I literally thought it was the original film from 2003. My life is a lie
@@jimjaspers3050 Tyko Drift was actually my favorite one in the franchise. Had the most genuine personality to me. It was actually a cool story that was about the underground racing scene. Not just another generic action flick only focused on mindless entertainment for profit
@@phantomgamer9264 I'd never even heard of this. I thought driving the car from one sky scraper to the next was as ridiculous as they could get. Oops, I seemed to have underestimated them.
I don't care how ridiculous these movies are, when vin diesel said "you never took my car" I felt that. That line goes hard lol. He don't even try to hide it anymore, he knows he's playing a superhuman with car powers and fully embraces it
This and Vin stomping the ground killed it for me. I'm a original "Trilogy" kinda guy. I absolutely adore the first two in their own ways and Tokyo Drift is a good racing movie on its own. It just happens to be a Fast and Furious movie. It could have ended there. But it was Paul's franchise to me. It really should have ended when he died. I think Vin took advantage of the situation and made it his franchise since his Triple X and Riddick franchises didn't take off.
This was exactly what happened. And he used Paul’s death itself as a marketing tactic. It’s sick when you actually think about it. It should’ve ended years ago but if anything it at least should’ve ended when Paul died. The last scene with the two of them (with pauls brother playing him) should’ve marked the definitive ending
Eh, the spotlight was moving towards Diesel as early as Fast Five. Just look, it was Dom that got the epic battle with Hobbs, Dom that leant him a hand, Dom that kept dragging the Safe around and let Brian drive off on his own. In Fast 6 its Dom who drives the story with his relationship with Letty. Brian takes a second in command role from then on. It may have started as Walker's franchise, but his death wasn't what caused things to change.
I love how people find the stunts crazier than the fact we're at ten of these now. Not unheard of for a franchise but very much so when each entry contains the same leads.
The parallel to Vin Diesel's power trip character leading this movie was Paul Walker. The dichotomy of one having the physical strength (Dom) mixed with the agility and charisma (Brian) meant that both characters needed to play the roles in sync in order for this level of achievement within the plot to work. The loss of Paul Walker with no attempt to fill in Brian's storyline arguably hurt the franchise more than Vin Diesel's inflated ego, since many would either pass off the absurdity for the sake of the entertainment or justify it by the moments built up to it from the other characters or Brian working alongside him. Dom is now perceived as the one achieving most of what was assumed to be equal tag team effort between two equally loved characters in the prior movies, which makes his achievements far more inflated than what happened in 5 - 6.
Great point even tho dom character is the worst the void that’s very obvious due to Paul’s absence is equally just as bad. In my opinion the best way to go about all of this is to have Han take Brian’s role so to speak. Especially considering Han & Brian are obviously the coolest characters in the series. There should’ve been more of a load on Han narratively & character wise. I’d be happy with a spin-off with just Han tbh
you are exaggerating my guy, they were all complete dog shit, Paul Walker was cringe as fk. These movies are just meant to be run in the background and that's kinda it
Just rewatched Tokyo Drift last night and I’m certain now that it is my favorite film of the franchise and probably the best film of the franchise. Why? Because it’s the ONLY film in the entire franchise that is literally centered around street racing to the point the final showdown between our hero and villain is settled on a street race. Not a semi-truck heist gone wrong. Not some half assed undercover cop plot involving crashing onto a boat. Not some ridiculous safe heist chase. And not some over the top Avengers style mess involving submarines, airplanes, disrupting satellite signals, and all other impractical forms of Chase Fu. TD is a street racing movie from start to finish. It has good characters, an easy to follow plot, some great stunt driving and the creativity to put Han’s SR20DET into a 68 mustang for the big race. When’s the last time we saw this level of creativity in these films? Hell, when’s the last time we saw the characters “build” any car? Oh wait, there’s the Fiero rocket ship from 9. Oh yeah that’s Sean, Twink and the rest of the TD crew that built it. Sorry, hate me all you want, but Dom Toretto AND Brian O Conner are overrated characters who are only praised and remembered for the cars they drive. If they drove regular cars or didn’t drive at all, nobody would care, nobody would bother because their characters are THAT unlikable and unrelatable. When I want entertainment I can turn my brain off to and just watch over the top action sequences with weak plots, I’ll watch a Transformers film. Those films have every right to be the pointless global scale spectacle they are. It’s a silly series based on alien robots. An action film franchise “with heart” supposedly revolving around street racing yet excludes street racing, kills characters to merely bring them back in later sequels with insulting plot twists, and has characters doing the most ridiculous looking cgi stunts since Ben Affleck’s Daredevil. Fast and Furious has devolved into Unhurried and Inexcitable.
Yup, but it also fell to the classic movie trope where the hero doesn't win the race but rather the villain does something dumb and crashes so the hero effectively wins by default. But I agree, Tokyo drift is def in contention with the best in the franchise next to the first one. (Though a lot of the acting was terrible, I've always wondered how good that film could have been if it wasn't shot with the intention of it going right to TV. Like exact same script but with more talent. There is a reason none of the cast really has careers after other than Kang and Kelley , and really Kang hasn't done anything other than star in Fast sequels.)
@@ryancooper3629 yeah i feel ya on that. The big “what if?”. The potential is certainly there for a great street racing film. Lucas Black was a decent child actor but I couldn’t tell you a film he made as an adult outside of his 3 F&F appearances. Also, be careful, I hear Ryo Watanabe is looking for you lol. I still get down with Pro Street in my PS2.
@@FunkyGOB Yeah exactly, and I just think he looked too old to be playing a high schooler, not sure how old he actually was at the time but he looked 30. I did like the character though until they utterly destroyed it bringing him back and making him a stooge.
@@FunkyGOBTD is that movie we can watch over and over and we don't get tired of it. Apart from TD which is obviously a masterpiece, I still believe that Fast 1 and Fast 2 were the only ones worth watching in terms of characters and plot lines. Not only do they involve racing at their majority but also the characters sound more natural and realistic. I hate what they did to characters like Dom (greedy Vin) and Roman. I laughed a lot of times whenever Roman was in the scene at F2 and still he was a respected, a badass and a competent character, now in late movies they've just forced him into a comic relief, I might have laughed once or twice during his overall screen time after Fast 2 but they've really ruined his and other characters, Dom clearly had the worst downgrade. Dom never was the main character for me, Brian was and will always be the main character imo, I didn't give a damn about the car he was using. I just wanted to see him racing, his character development, stunts and his undercover cop scenes. The 3 first movies are just not comparable, cinematography is on a whole different level. Realistic fiction even though it's still fiction, this is my stance. It could've just stayed there if the directors weren't to screw up things, the material source has always been there..
My brother once said that their super powers in these movies are cars and now I cant stop thinking of it that way. They were around cars so long they eventually gained the attributes of cars.
It's been pretty tasteful, I guess. But I kinda wish they'd give it, and Walker, a rest. It's getting to the ambiguous point of milking it. It seems like the opening scene of Fast X will be the last time. Until the final film, of course.
The movies should have stopped there. Paul was the heart and soul of the films. Even the last movie he was in was pretty marvel like but still had some parts that felt like the old movies. After the 4th movie is where it started to get a little bit extreme imo.
My favorite Insane Dom moment is when he pulled down an entire room full of bad guys to collapse the floor/roof like some kind of Biblical figure. Totally ridiculous.
After watching FF7 in the theater, I remember saying to my brother right after we left: "Surely they're gonna keep making these FF movies, but I think this is the last one I'm gonna watch". I recongnized the franchise had become way too silly, but the relationship between the core characters kept it somehow grounded. That died along with Paul Walker. FF7 was the first movie of the franchise I didn't enjoy that much, only the emotional send-off they gave Paul Walker made it right. I felt it would only go downhill from there. Sad to see I wasn't wrong.
Same. I don't see the point of these films without Walker. It's clearly just a cash grab and the people who keep giving them money are getting screwed.
This can actually be done fairly simply if it is attached to a pulley system with the right leverage. But in the same movie, where he is able to hyper-detective his way to find out how Letty was (supposedly) killed, by what type of car, and by whom its NOS was supplied - just from a couple of random ass skidmarks on the road. Man, that really took me out of the sense of disbelief. Dude literally just became a quantum computer in an instant and never looked back since.
Agree, but I'd prob argue him timing driving under the bouncing, rolling semi at the beginning of that film was the moment the franchise no longer lived in reality. After that, for me, anything could happen on screen.
You know I never really realized how diverse the cast is. That is the way to do it. So many movies ham fist diversity into the plot and make the entire movie about how diverse it is.
Funny thing is it was working, 5 + 7 are known as some of the best in the franchise but cuz they had already established going bigger and bigger 8 took it in an unrecoverable position. I think 10 tried to bring the series back to the ground for the most part but still has those bombastic moments which is why it’s the best movie since 7
@@TahirAli-ri3hn I mean if u didn't like it then no probs man. U can have ur opinion. I don't need all of my movies to have a deep message or have some complex storytelling. Sure they are enjoyable but sometimes i wanna watch some dumb as hell fun. So yea fast and furious is pretty fun.
@@TahirAli-ri3hnThat...was exactly the point they were trying to make. A movie can be dumb and fun at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive. You don't have to like the franchise, but that doesn't mean you have to put down everyone that does like it no matter how absurd it is at this point.
As a native Carioca from Rio, when they solved centuries worth of crime, economic disparity and corruption resulted from colonisation with cars, it very much broke suspension of disbelief.
The superman air intercept was so over the top that Cinema Sins didn't explain the sin he just laughed for 5 seconds straight while the counter was going nuts bllllliiiiinnnngggg.😂
This was the first fast and furious movie I saw. I was 13, and my science tutor, who was 25 at the time, went to see this movie in a theater. His treat. He was going to a different city for a job. I remember loving the film. And this scene was my favourite scene for a LOOOONG time
Can you please do a video on the unrealistic superhuman strength the rock had in these movies. Breaking slabs of concrete off the wall to curl them, hurling grown men into ceilings, punching giant dents into steel walls, etc.
Dom is a literal racing/transport God of the modern era, that’s why shit is weird in his universe, the characters are even starting to become self aware.
It literally happened in Fast & Furious.. started catching engines with one hand and doing superhuman driving feats.. after that he went full ego, having other hollywood tough guys coming in to take “losses” against Toretto..Rock, Statham, Cena, Tormund from GOT, and now Reacher and Momoa
The worst part about Dom’s antics are that for him to pull these things off… it would take the amount of math and physics and planning that the stunt coordinators needed. Yet, somehow, Dom just does these things spur of the moment without any planning and him or his car and all his friends always end up at the speed or location exactly where they’re always needed.
also zero thoughts about collateral damage, like sure it was for your family but every city you go to basically experiences a terrorist attack thats almost always directly tied to them
I personally wanted things to continue like Tokyo drift, going to over countries showing their unique driving styles and cultures Personally for me 5 was the last good one, ive watched up to 8 and I might watch 9 and 10 one day but it just isn't for me anymore and that's fine I hope the people who like them enjoy them
Same for me, 5 is just "Almost Impossible but never impossible", a long journey ended, and a happy ending for all characters, after that, just watch the movie with your brain off, you'll appreciate it more without your brain
@@minatouzumaki405 yeah I mean 5 had mostly real stunts with very little CGI, a story that makes sense and let’s be real, everyone loves a good heist movie. The 7th one was the heaviest because it was Paul’s last movie which made it emotional. 8 was entertaining enough but everything else was god awful
@@kaibalfour2318 that's what i mean, 6-10 is just too much cgi and revival nonsense, no racing like even 5 have a nice b-roll of cars before heist, and boy of boy don't forget about the whole agency's nonsense, and the fact that they need a flashback to get a new villains, really just shut your brains lol
There's one thing I love about this franchise is that they didn't forget the first rule of entertainment business which is to entertain unlike Disney with their woke agenda and identity politics.
I agree but id like to say the turn of Rome's character becoming the "straight man/voice of the audience" and being the sort of meta voice has been a refreshing funny addition. Because him bringing up their indestructibleness leans on what your saying in a comedic lampshady kind of way that i rather enjoy!
I watched the first 2 movies 20 years ago, then hadnt really kept up with the franchise at all.....Then watched Fast X on a overseas flight.....that was jarring - thanks for filling in the gaps :D
It really is a perfect storm that got is to where we are today lol. Clearly Vin’s ego is a big part of it, but he’s also very clearly listening to his audience. People liked the first 3 Fast movies, but 4 and especially 5 EXPLODED in popularity. So in his and the studios mind, they figured “oh maybe people don’t really care about the story, they’re really here for action scenes.” So the narrative took a back seat to the action. And I for one am all for it. We don’t have nearly enough movies that have creative and completely insane action scenes like F&F does.
I'm on the opposite camp I liked the first few movies 2 fast 2 furious is my favourite one And Paul walker is my protagonist not Dom So obviously see you again is where the franchise ended for me They drove into the sunset and lived happily ever after enjoying their family The end
@@tpsam I agree but the franchise ended for me with six but the sunset scene in 7, is where it truly ends. It shows that Brian and Mia want to settle down and raise their kid away from this life, start fresh. It brings a tear to my eye every time I watch it.
I am glad to see a video addressing the Vin Diesel problem. F&F movies are made to be action filled but it does come at the expense of storytelling. By understanding that, I’m able to enjoy these films. However my main problem when watching Fast X was with Dom’s “invincibility”. There is virtually no scene where this character bleeds, suffers or shows any sign of fatigue. To me, it lowers the stakes and takes away from what the movie is trying to achieve.
Only thing Dom needs is spiderwebs, seems to do alright in midair. Doesn't need armour, has steve rogers tier durability, and Cage lvls strength, cracked concrete with a stomp.
I hear that a new Riddick is in the works. Idk how they're gonna pull that off because the dude is getting old. But, honestly, he doesn't need to do anything. Mans is set.
@@jase276 I'm starting to lose hope on Riddick, his chances of playing him was before 2013 and he wasted time afterwards doing Bloodshot and Witch Hunter, both were fine but his best character is Riddick....like why buy the rights to him if he isn't gonna use him correctly? Dude could've had 2 or 3 more films done by now, THEN he could finish out Fast Furious Other stars have done this kind of thing but Vin won't, yet he claims to love Riddick....I just don't get it
1st mistake - Not ending the franchise after Fast 5. 2nd mistake - Not ending it after Furious 7. F7 had such a beautiful and perfect ending. The scope for a sequel does not even exist.. But the writers you know... forcefully created stupid and senseless storylines and destroyed the franchise
For me, Dom suffered serius head injuries in the last stand (the car crash with the train...) with Brian in Fast & Furious and remain in coma... dreaming the rest of the franchise.
The 5th installment was the best, but 4th is a also a nice movie, I liked it. For me 2nd part was maybe not as good as the first one, but really near to that. I don't understand those negative reviews. The 7th was the end and they should've let it be that way. I accepted that series as long as Paul Walker was there.
Dom went from getting agitated over police cars and being too scared to drive the Family Car to stomping parking lots and using his car as a literal weapon
Sometimes you just want a movie where you can watch explosions and action, and thats where this franchise comes in. I'm all for it. Its the same as the Transformers franchise - yeah they shouldve stopped at the third, but its always great to go watch giant transforming robots fight each other. There's just something cool about it. Same with the Godzilla movies, or Pacific Rim. These kinds of movies are really fun to watch if you take them at face value. Not every movie is intended to be deep or realistic or symbolic of anything. Sometimes its just to see cool stuff.
Honestly this was a very logical breakdown and I appreciate you voicing all my feelings as a guy who has almost 20 years doing serious surgery on cars and lots of dangerous recreational fun.
TBH I really like the 3 first movies because they are a really good trilogy about street racing culture, yeah the first one is basically Point Break with tuner cars, but the fact the Diesel denied appearing on the next 2 movies and only a cameo on Tokyo Drift in exchange on the Riddick franchise rights, could be the best thing it could happen to those movies. I mean, it wouldn't make sense having Toretto back with Bryan immediately, as I see it, he was laying low, and it have Bryan to actually became a great street racer now that he's unemployed, and the turn of having him work with the FBI and also redeem himself with an old fried whom he had the opportunity to make the same thing with Toretto but actually imprisoned himself it really good, and it's Miami so I really loved it and it still was this underground racing story as well. And Tokyo Drift felt like this great extension of showing us other street racing cultures with a really good standalone story and seeing Toretto in the end kinda makes sense, like thinking he got himself trafficked into Japan and that he started gathering a new family member there, was cool, and that's it, because when it became this heist movie thing I really lost it, and now that this is the MCU but with cars even worse, but yeah, these movies are enjoyable and I understand why people enjoy them it's just not my cup of tea as people say.
In my heart the F&F franchise ends with F&F7. My one complain about these movies is that from F&F4 on Brian O'Conner felt relegated to a supporting character, which is very unfair considering his character started the story
I made a similar comment reminds me of a joke my grandpa would tell me when I was kid. "I can lift a car with one hand with Jack" when i was little, i just thought my grandpa was insanely strong, and I've never met Jack.
@@xjmg007 where I work, we have a chain hoist that can lift several tons and you can do it with with minimal effort. You have to pull a lot of length, but it's super easy. So I can see a 500 or so pound engine block being stopped with one arm. Where I have doubts is getting that timing that close lol
I think that you can forgive most of the narrative flaws and unrealistic strength of Dominic Toretto because it's just a movie meant purely to entertain you. It's unpretentious and always delivers exactly what the trailers and the name is associated with. Sometimes, it's okay to have a movie meant to just be fun.
For me in FAST X bringing back that character at the end made me feel like I was watching a Marvel/DC movie. Nobody dies in the Fast and Furious films even if you die in real life
My head canon for this franchise is Dom's in a coma after he's knocked out in Fast and Furious 7, I know Dom wakes up but what if he woke up in his mind not the real world, it would sure explain alot.
The thing is you can't only do races street car based movies for so long specially if the actors are the same, I believe it was the only way to make it last the way it did. Do you imagine only seeing sequels after sequels where the main protagonist Vin diesel , Paul walker only doing street race ? Eventually it will get to a point where they 'll have to get out of the loop and get the tangent .
This is true for many other franchises as well. Once these "franchises" become established with yearly releases, you just know the main character will be fine. You never worry about them anymore. The stakes go down no matter how hard they try to artificially pump it up. I noticed a similar thing in John Wick, and even the MCU. The first movies actually gave you the sense that the hero can actually get hurt or die right during the action. Every fight is difficult and potentially the last for the struggling hero. Some good examples are John Wick 1, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Thor 1, Spider-Man 1 and 2, etc. Yes the heroes are plenty capable, but its not so easy for them to defeat everyone. But once they get famous, they'll just effortlessly take down hordes of enemies and villains, and you never care for them like you did in the first movies. Its just too easy for them. This is how we end up with "junk food" movies. No authentic stakes, just guns and explosions.
I can't help but laugh when I think of that fact that this movie franchise went from Dom looking like he was hurt pretty bad (looked like a dislocated shoulder, probably still less minor than it should have been) after a car accident in the first movie to what you see happening in the initial 10-15 seconds of this video where he not only crashes his car, he flies hundreds of feet in the air, catches somebody (mid-air mind you) and then lands on the windshield of another car with the weight of another person also landing on him and he is perfectly fine. All you need is family and to have a say in how powerful, immortal and immune to injuries your character is.
"Toretto suffers no emotional loss" Yes, he does. He loses his best friend, his lifetime partner and the mother of his kid. The "Toretto Super Hero" trope comes from Diesel's childhood. He was a nerd in a time when being a nerd cost you instant bullying in school. Believe it or not, Vin Diesel is, because of his age and fondness of tabletop RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons, the embodiment of one of "Stranger Things" kids, turned a steroid-driven badass. Mind you, all the kids his age group that suffered "nerd treatment" that I know(Myself included) work out and/or practice martial arts. Been hitting the gym for thirty years and still look buff while the "cool kids" of my school have become fat boomers. The "Toretto Expanded Universe" is a reflection of that.
The thing is, this used to be Paul Walker's franchise. He was the main protag, the person living a double life, the one whose perspective we follow through.. And it shows, he was the one pushing the show forward and Dom was more of a side character to be a supporting pillar, an anchor of sorts - but not the one steering the show. After Paul Walker's death, Vin Diesel took over the role of lead not just as a character, but also as a director in a sense. He became the show -or rather, the show became him. Now he was the center of every plot point. The intrigue, the drama, the family, the vendetta of the bad guys ..literally everything. In my opinion it is extremely distasteful how he took what Paul made great (with the help of every cast member ofc) and then turned it into a powertrip fantasy of Vin Diesel himself who always ends up turning every franchise he stars in into a pseudo superhero story with him as the main character who owns the world and powers through any trial without any sign of consequence from real hardship.
Agree, franchise should've respectfully came to an end when Paul died. But uncle fester had other plans and now it's booty. Mamoa was good in 10 though lol
@@nickbeam5541 for real, Mamoa looked like he was the only one having fun lmao - actually carried the whole script because everything else was a total shitshow haha
very good point, because even if initally it wasnt written as paul walker as the singular protagonist, the fact that we as the audience watched the sequel without vin, and saw paul go through his whole journey to quitting the police force, so in every sense in the audiences point of view Paul was the steady character that was always there, there really isn't anyone to oppose Vin ironically in the story and IRL, in the story sense, everyone else seems to be below Dom while Paul was more like a unofficial blood brother type thing, now Dom basically has henchmen
Jumping from one car to the other is more realistic than him catching an entire engine with one arm without it tearing his shoulder clean off!! Your the first RUclipsr I’ve seen to comment on the engine scene! 👏
for me it was in Fast and Furious 4 (when Dom gets shot in the back in Mexico after the big tunnel run and all he does is turn around and look at the shooter angrily and punch him then walk away like nothing happened.)
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Vin stomping the ground so only deckard could fall through the concrete was pretty crazy ngl lol
It's called earthbending dude. Get with the program! 😂
@@BerlyMcCowanToph would be proud of that move
They didn't have when dom flexed the door and flew it off like the hulk
That's the point when I stopped giving the series any benefit of the doubt. Only reason why people didn't laugh their asses off at that point is because of the sentimentality to Paul Walker's death, which they were very much and still is banking on.
YO!! tbh I stopped after tokyo drift. but i was in a barbershop and saw this scene.
I was like "yup, I'm never watching these"
No, no Nerdstalgic. You got it all wrong he's still human; it's just that he's blessed by the power of *FAMILY* nothing is stronger than that.
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Harry Potter is protected by love. Dom is protected by FAMILY. Only Magic can defeat Magic.
@@peterdavis6768 At least Harry's case makes actual sense since his world is magical. Dom OTOH... is just a bunch of crap at this point.
@@mottom2657 Fast & Furious and Mission Impossible movies are all just modern day pulpy action-adventure movies disguised as other genres.
Between the streets and family, family always win
I love how we all collectively agree that this is when things "got nuts"
@@suavgod why would you say something like that?? Why would you put that into the universe?? Prequel?😫
@Kenny-lz3gh what did he say 😂
@@Kenny-lz3gh Noooooo no prequel
Honestly it's the point when I could no longer give this series a pass. Fast Five was already pushing it but this scene was dumbfoundingly ridiculous.
I stopped caring after Fast 4, skipped Fast 5 and saw Fast 6 in my college dorm. The entire thing was absurd, but when I saw THAT scene omg I lost it 😭😭 like what has this franchise become and how lmao
I still say when Dom flipped his car at the end of the first movie he actually did not survive unscathed. Instead, he was critically injured, and every F&F movie that has come after with him in it has been his dreams while he lays in a coma in a hospital bed. This also explains why each movie gets more and more far fetched given he is losing his grip on reality....plus the whole time his "family" is at his bedside, which is why family is so important to him.
That's the only explanation that makes rational sense. It won't happen in the franchise though.
It’s true.
Like repo men
Well we'll if it isn't the laziest theory to ever exist
Really good alternative narrative there
Tokyo Drift was actually one of the best in the series imo. It had a strong theme of drifting, the yakuza, self-improvement and trying to fit in a strange culture that hates anyone outside of it.
I liked the actors also way more, and it had an actual tension all the way through. I think it was waay underrated.
It’s the best of the series; it feel so much more grounded, using Tokyo as a backdrop combined with the Japanese car scene just gives the movie this energy that’s so different to the rest of the movies. I think Sean is a solid character but that’s Han’s movie
I’d say top 3 is easily
Tokyo Drift
Fast Five
The Fast and The Furious
it definatly was lacking production value but I like the guy they had in it he goes all the way back to an old counter movie I love haha
Tokyo drive was amazing but the Japanese culture is wonderful and they don't hate others i've been to japan before they are so friendly and polite
@@Co-nm8ntbeen to Japan is different to moving to Japan. A lot of foreigners who moved to Japan discusses that Japanese don't 100% accept you they welcome but they also like to remind you that you are a gaijin
@@Co-nm8ntEh, they got a bit of xenophobia over there, but it's a solid place if you're not expecting it to be like from the anime
Rewatching 1-5 is crazy, you see how different the world/tone/dialogue is, they clearly saw Avengers while working on 6 and decided to blend their franchise with MCU style
Fast Five was mean to be the last movie of the franchise and in my opinion it should have ended at that.
@@shariqhasan6220Fast 5 ended with a sequel hook.
@@shariqhasan6220 sadly no, i've red the article somewhere that Vin and Paul already try to make Fast Furious until 10th title around 2012
@@shariqhasan6220I enjoyed till 6 after that it went crazy
@@jimjaspers3050 I agree, but Five was kinda the last movie of the series that had some of the soul of the previous movies, after that... well, here we are.
My buddy has talked about this for years. He calls it F&F effect. After so long, characters will always become super heroes if they get enough sequels.
great point
@@adrielsfxit would be if he can provide examples of other movies with humans becoming super heroes throughout sequels
John Wick
Rambo and the last couple Die Hard movies come to mind. James Bond occasionally becomes cartoonish (Pierce Brosnan paragliding down an avalanche comes to mind). I’m not fully bought into this idea, but it’s interesting nonetheless
Die Hard
The fact that Gal Gadot is being considered to return to the franchise after being skidded off an airplane launch way is enough for everyone to know where this series is at.
Nobody dies, except Jessie
@@TechDove There were actual plans to revive Johnny Tran too, I'm not kidding!
@@TechDove and vince
Well…😔
Considered to return?
I'm guessing you haven't watched the last one then. And I wouldn't usually post potential spoilers, but is it really a spoiler that someone in FF isn't actually dead at this point?
The fact that the Rock, Stratham and Diesel all have it in their contract that they can’t lose is absolutely hilarious. Such frail big men.
I agree,it's laughable.
Ikr
I'm pretty sure the rock has a clause about never having a villain role, but I don't know about the not losing thing
@@thegames4565 he was the villian in the movie ''get smart''(2008) and he also lost
@@thegames45652005 DOOM. He lost in that one
The Hulk stomp breaking the concrete for only Shaw to fall through is one of the funniest and most ridiculous things I've ever seen. I laughed out loud at that one and fully expected the camera to zoom in on Dom as he says "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" and tear off his shirt as he turns green.
And you loved it don’t lie 😂
@@Usernamehearbruh it's dumb and cringe
Right like I’m watching fast and furious or a pg13 marvel movie 😂😂😂😂
I know you made that Hulk joke to be funny but ironically that's what Dom and the FF franchise is to Universal studios. Universal Studios is still in a long staring match with Marvel over the Hulk rights and still won't make a movie for him while also not giving Marvel much free reign with the Hulk for the MCU(which is mostly why he went zero for Infinity War and beyond).
So they made Vin Diesel's Dom and FnF be their cinematic comic book summer block buster stand in for their Hulk license.
So Dom is defacto Hulk in a sense.
@@mysteryace2129 I expect dom to be fighting saiyan god super saiyan goku in F&F 22
It's an interesting state of affairs in the world of cinema when out of two Vin Diesel played characters, Riddick lives in a universe more grounded in reality than Dominic Toretto.
The irony.
I just realized that Dom is actually just his XXX character xander but with family
@@catierose3647 well, family and less tattoos.
@@davebyrd1394 indeed. Up until Fast 6, or whatever the actual name is, the consequences were still real. I agree with the consensus, that the moment the series went into superhuman territory was when Dom rescued Letty, by propelling himself through the air, catching her and landing on a windscreen at the end of the ridiculous tank and bridges scene. Now unless a character is a villain, Vince, Elena or maybe Jacob, there's always a chance they will come back somehow.
If I wanted reality I wouldn’t be watching a movie
Vin Diesel went from "No, don't do sequels to Fast & Furious, that will ruin the greatness of the original" to "give me all the money, I want creative control, I want in my contract that I never lose, I want exploding remote controlled submarines, I want superpowers, I want all the powers, I want at least 10 more sequels".
"And I want them all to be in considerations for Oscars because they are actually serious stuff when you think about it and Jason Mamoa is taking away from that."
I haven't even seen the last 3 entries in this franchise. Just watching the trailers were enough for me. I'm probably in the minority, but I enjoyed these movies when they were about street racing. Now they are just your average over the top spy action movies. Meh...
It was because we didn’t see The Pacifier and Riddick so this is his revenge.
@@polelix1023 I saw Riddick. And any of those movies are better than the past 4 FatF combined.
@@jeezus666you’re not in the minority. You’re in the majority it’s just most of us still have some hope that the movies aren’t as bad as the trailers. Imo the first 3 movies are the best in the series and the series should’ve ended at 7
The thing is, he is a producer as well. Which means his ego was/is through the roof to write himself to be essentially captain America. Dom is literally supposed to be a mechanic.
Vin diesel is a little bitch lmao. Obviously trying to compensate
😆 exactly
@@docsays The character development is so crazy. Like one day they're a mechanic, the next a rocket scientist. It's ludicrous and embarrassing. At this point surely they know it's a comedy movie?! I'm not sure if anyone within the fast world is taking this seriously
@@Breathe-Music - speaking of ludicrous, he was organizing races in F2, then somehow in F5 he is this cyber security/IT specialist! Like, wth? 🤨 His explanation: “i had a former life” 😆😆😆
@@docsays 😂 He must taken an IT course between movies. Oh he's also an expert in martial arts now and somehow that's the most believable part of any of this
Who needs physics when you have family
0:05 if y'all only knew how memed this scene has become in latinamerican social media
Tuve fe
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En el aire weon, EN EL AIRE
Dom Toretto's "detective vision" for figuring out Letti's seemly fatal accident was the "jump the shark moment" in the franchise for me.
That's Diesel's interpretation of how the Insight skill in Dungeons & Dragons work
I never singled anyone out. But I always said they do more extreme things than superhero movies. How?
Ok so that was actually the first and only fast and furious movie I ever saw and up until this video I literally thought it was the original film from 2003. My life is a lie
Kinda weird because in The Fast & The Furious (the 1st one).. Dom couldn't even hold his own again a truck driver with pump shotgun.
@@RUclipsAIbotthe original came out in 2001
I haven’t seen the latest movie but absolutely NOTHING will top him attaching his car to the rope of a suspension bridge bf swing across the gap.
You're in for a surprise buddy
Miley Cyrus would be proud of Dom is all I'm saying.
@@orlandowright2323 o.o
Fast X: hold my beer.
well, you're going to love this one because he actually plays Rocket League using a Dodge Charger now.
Tokyo Drift - Fast Five was peak for me.the bank vault scene was about that optimal high point of absurdity for me.
You should see the Rocket League-type scene from Fast X.
@@jimjaspers3050 Tyko Drift was actually my favorite one in the franchise. Had the most genuine personality to me. It was actually a cool story that was about the underground racing scene. Not just another generic action flick only focused on mindless entertainment for profit
That’s mine as well 😂
@@dime1012Tokyo Drift is more realistic & relatable to our life than the Fast Five onwards.
Then you are not meant for it
Hearing that Tokyo Drift had a budget for a planned direct to DVD release, that movie is a masterpiece.
You put so much more thought into this than the last 5 movies combined!
Ironically... In fast 9, Ludacris and Tyrese going to space is more believable than like 90% of the movie
How did they reenter the atmosphere 🤣
@@jbrown8601 In a spaceship (probably a Russian Soyuz). They docked or were rescued by astronauts from the International Space Station.
@@Nghilifabruh I don't even want to believe you
@@phantomgamer9264 I'd never even heard of this. I thought driving the car from one sky scraper to the next was as ridiculous as they could get. Oops, I seemed to have underestimated them.
@@VAFranky nah I believe it tho since a lot of the advertisements had them in a car going to space
I laughed so hard I woke people up when he said, "it doesn't even make his white shirt dirty," when Don crushed into the windshield.
Even the power of the family extends to the clothes that he wore😅😅😅
@@radityafauzanilmi4219Seems like it 🤣
Came for the cars, stayed for the family.
Haha genius 🤣
Deserves to be pinned
I don't care how ridiculous these movies are, when vin diesel said "you never took my car" I felt that.
That line goes hard lol. He don't even try to hide it anymore, he knows he's playing a superhuman with car powers and fully embraces it
Fast and furious is one of those 'fun' franchises, you just watch it to have fun and not take it very seriously.
This and Vin stomping the ground killed it for me. I'm a original "Trilogy" kinda guy. I absolutely adore the first two in their own ways and Tokyo Drift is a good racing movie on its own. It just happens to be a Fast and Furious movie. It could have ended there. But it was Paul's franchise to me. It really should have ended when he died. I think Vin took advantage of the situation and made it his franchise since his Triple X and Riddick franchises didn't take off.
Don't forget Bloodshot.
@@Kerrathul don't recall that one. I remember the one where he was a witch hunter though or whatever
This was exactly what happened. And he used Paul’s death itself as a marketing tactic. It’s sick when you actually think about it. It should’ve ended years ago but if anything it at least should’ve ended when Paul died. The last scene with the two of them (with pauls brother playing him) should’ve marked the definitive ending
Eh, the spotlight was moving towards Diesel as early as Fast Five. Just look, it was Dom that got the epic battle with Hobbs, Dom that leant him a hand, Dom that kept dragging the Safe around and let Brian drive off on his own. In Fast 6 its Dom who drives the story with his relationship with Letty. Brian takes a second in command role from then on. It may have started as Walker's franchise, but his death wasn't what caused things to change.
@@cameronjosephvideos5942 You right. Vin needed F&F and Paul didn't. He was doing other stuff. But the series should never have gotten that far
I love how people find the stunts crazier than the fact we're at ten of these now. Not unheard of for a franchise but very much so when each entry contains the same leads.
But each entry hasn't contained the same leads
Technically TWELVE counting Tokyo Drift and Hobbs & Shaw
@@jimjimmers8571Tokyo drift is apart of the main continuity so it’s still in line with the 10 movies. So it’s only 11 not 12
@@camknight2411 Sorry, my mistake, you’re right 😭😭
The thing is we got bored of the same "haha FnF movie printer goes brrr" bit 10 years ago
The parallel to Vin Diesel's power trip character leading this movie was Paul Walker. The dichotomy of one having the physical strength (Dom) mixed with the agility and charisma (Brian) meant that both characters needed to play the roles in sync in order for this level of achievement within the plot to work. The loss of Paul Walker with no attempt to fill in Brian's storyline arguably hurt the franchise more than Vin Diesel's inflated ego, since many would either pass off the absurdity for the sake of the entertainment or justify it by the moments built up to it from the other characters or Brian working alongside him. Dom is now perceived as the one achieving most of what was assumed to be equal tag team effort between two equally loved characters in the prior movies, which makes his achievements far more inflated than what happened in 5 - 6.
Great point even tho dom character is the worst the void that’s very obvious due to Paul’s absence is equally just as bad. In my opinion the best way to go about all of this is to have Han take Brian’s role so to speak. Especially considering Han & Brian are obviously the coolest characters in the series. There should’ve been more of a load on Han narratively & character wise. I’d be happy with a spin-off with just Han tbh
you are exaggerating my guy, they were all complete dog shit, Paul Walker was cringe as fk. These movies are just meant to be run in the background and that's kinda it
That's true. Brian was always a better character and started as the MAIN character. The series going forward without him was a huge mistake.
Just rewatched Tokyo Drift last night and I’m certain now that it is my favorite film of the franchise and probably the best film of the franchise. Why?
Because it’s the ONLY film in the entire franchise that is literally centered around street racing to the point the final showdown between our hero and villain is settled on a street race. Not a semi-truck heist gone wrong. Not some half assed undercover cop plot involving crashing onto a boat. Not some ridiculous safe heist chase. And not some over the top Avengers style mess involving submarines, airplanes, disrupting satellite signals, and all other impractical forms of Chase Fu.
TD is a street racing movie from start to finish. It has good characters, an easy to follow plot, some great stunt driving and the creativity to put Han’s SR20DET into a 68 mustang for the big race. When’s the last time we saw this level of creativity in these films? Hell, when’s the last time we saw the characters “build” any car? Oh wait, there’s the Fiero rocket ship from 9. Oh yeah that’s Sean, Twink and the rest of the TD crew that built it. Sorry, hate me all you want, but Dom Toretto AND Brian O Conner are overrated characters who are only praised and remembered for the cars they drive. If they drove regular cars or didn’t drive at all, nobody would care, nobody would bother because their characters are THAT unlikable and unrelatable.
When I want entertainment I can turn my brain off to and just watch over the top action sequences with weak plots, I’ll watch a Transformers film. Those films have every right to be the pointless global scale spectacle they are. It’s a silly series based on alien robots.
An action film franchise “with heart” supposedly revolving around street racing yet excludes street racing, kills characters to merely bring them back in later sequels with insulting plot twists, and has characters doing the most ridiculous looking cgi stunts since Ben Affleck’s Daredevil. Fast and Furious has devolved into Unhurried and Inexcitable.
Yup, but it also fell to the classic movie trope where the hero doesn't win the race but rather the villain does something dumb and crashes so the hero effectively wins by default. But I agree, Tokyo drift is def in contention with the best in the franchise next to the first one. (Though a lot of the acting was terrible, I've always wondered how good that film could have been if it wasn't shot with the intention of it going right to TV. Like exact same script but with more talent. There is a reason none of the cast really has careers after other than Kang and Kelley , and really Kang hasn't done anything other than star in Fast sequels.)
@@ryancooper3629 yeah i feel ya on that. The big “what if?”. The potential is certainly there for a great street racing film. Lucas Black was a decent child actor but I couldn’t tell you a film he made as an adult outside of his 3 F&F appearances.
Also, be careful, I hear Ryo Watanabe is looking for you lol. I still get down with Pro Street in my PS2.
@@FunkyGOB Yeah exactly, and I just think he looked too old to be playing a high schooler, not sure how old he actually was at the time but he looked 30. I did like the character though until they utterly destroyed it bringing him back and making him a stooge.
Hey ...
Dom is family.
@@FunkyGOBTD is that movie we can watch over and over and we don't get tired of it. Apart from TD which is obviously a masterpiece, I still believe that Fast 1 and Fast 2 were the only ones worth watching in terms of characters and plot lines.
Not only do they involve racing at their majority but also the characters sound more natural and realistic. I hate what they did to characters like Dom (greedy Vin) and Roman.
I laughed a lot of times whenever Roman was in the scene at F2 and still he was a respected, a badass and a competent character, now in late movies they've just forced him into a comic relief, I might have laughed once or twice during his overall screen time after Fast 2 but they've really ruined his and other characters, Dom clearly had the worst downgrade.
Dom never was the main character for me, Brian was and will always be the main character imo, I didn't give a damn about the car he was using. I just wanted to see him racing, his character development, stunts and his undercover cop scenes.
The 3 first movies are just not comparable, cinematography is on a whole different level. Realistic fiction even though it's still fiction, this is my stance.
It could've just stayed there if the directors weren't to screw up things, the material source has always been there..
Toretto was never human, he is the God of Family!
My brother once said that their super powers in these movies are cars and now I cant stop thinking of it that way. They were around cars so long they eventually gained the attributes of cars.
lolol
So the characters drink gasoline and have superhuman speed.
I’d love to see a video discussing the franchise’s treatment of Brian after Paul walkers death.
For me that is where the franchise should've ended.
It's been pretty tasteful, I guess. But I kinda wish they'd give it, and Walker, a rest. It's getting to the ambiguous point of milking it. It seems like the opening scene of Fast X will be the last time. Until the final film, of course.
@@jase276 not that it’s not tasteful, it’s just “ oh, he’s not here right now”
The movies should have stopped there. Paul was the heart and soul of the films. Even the last movie he was in was pretty marvel like but still had some parts that felt like the old movies. After the 4th movie is where it started to get a little bit extreme imo.
My favorite Insane Dom moment is when he pulled down an entire room full of bad guys to collapse the floor/roof like some kind of Biblical figure. Totally ridiculous.
I laughed so much at that scene.
It’s giving Bollywood 😂
I also completely lost it at that scene.
I like how in Fast X roman literally acknowledges that how are they so lucky everytime and that they might be invincible.
Tyrese Gibson said it best in one of the films, it’s like they are indestructible 😅
After watching FF7 in the theater, I remember saying to my brother right after we left: "Surely they're gonna keep making these FF movies, but I think this is the last one I'm gonna watch".
I recongnized the franchise had become way too silly, but the relationship between the core characters kept it somehow grounded. That died along with Paul Walker.
FF7 was the first movie of the franchise I didn't enjoy that much, only the emotional send-off they gave Paul Walker made it right. I felt it would only go downhill from there.
Sad to see I wasn't wrong.
Same. I don't see the point of these films without Walker. It's clearly just a cash grab and the people who keep giving them money are getting screwed.
I think it was actually the moment Dominic was able to hold up an entire engine block with just one hand.
That was definitely some superhuman bs.
This can actually be done fairly simply if it is attached to a pulley system with the right leverage. But in the same movie, where he is able to hyper-detective his way to find out how Letty was (supposedly) killed, by what type of car, and by whom its NOS was supplied - just from a couple of random ass skidmarks on the road. Man, that really took me out of the sense of disbelief. Dude literally just became a quantum computer in an instant and never looked back since.
Right lol
Agree, but I'd prob argue him timing driving under the bouncing, rolling semi at the beginning of that film was the moment the franchise no longer lived in reality. After that, for me, anything could happen on screen.
You know I never really realized how diverse the cast is. That is the way to do it. So many movies ham fist diversity into the plot and make the entire movie about how diverse it is.
Ikr, Corp that focus on it has an agenda
That's what Screen junkies said in the Fast 7 Honest Trailer
True, it's about the working-class coloured folk.
Yeah diversity doesn’t really matter to me but when it’s done right and not forced it can be a beautiful thing
Darth Vader: "You don't know the power of the Dark Side."
Dominic Toretto: "I don't fear the Dark Side I have Family."
Funny thing is it was working, 5 + 7 are known as some of the best in the franchise but cuz they had already established going bigger and bigger 8 took it in an unrecoverable position. I think 10 tried to bring the series back to the ground for the most part but still has those bombastic moments which is why it’s the best movie since 7
The fast franchise is the best example of power creep in cinema
Lmao exactly. But damn is it fun to watch.
@@eerierpk no it's not
@@TahirAli-ri3hn I mean if u didn't like it then no probs man. U can have ur opinion. I don't need all of my movies to have a deep message or have some complex storytelling. Sure they are enjoyable but sometimes i wanna watch some dumb as hell fun. So yea fast and furious is pretty fun.
@@eerierpk dumb as hell fun 🤣
@@TahirAli-ri3hnThat...was exactly the point they were trying to make. A movie can be dumb and fun at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive. You don't have to like the franchise, but that doesn't mean you have to put down everyone that does like it no matter how absurd it is at this point.
As a native Carioca from Rio, when they solved centuries worth of crime, economic disparity and corruption resulted from colonisation with cars, it very much broke suspension of disbelief.
The superman air intercept was so over the top that Cinema Sins didn't explain the sin he just laughed for 5 seconds straight while the counter was going nuts bllllliiiiinnnngggg.😂
I think he’s knocking on the door of being top 5 strongest characters in all of entertainment.
This was the first fast and furious movie I saw. I was 13, and my science tutor, who was 25 at the time, went to see this movie in a theater. His treat. He was going to a different city for a job. I remember loving the film. And this scene was my favourite scene for a LOOOONG time
Can you please do a video on the unrealistic superhuman strength the rock had in these movies. Breaking slabs of concrete off the wall to curl them, hurling grown men into ceilings, punching giant dents into steel walls, etc.
That's making the same point twice.
@@CamJames The Rocks’ is just so much more absurd imo… both hilarious though.
Or when he flexed and popped the cast off his arm.
@@vanessap7393😂😂😂that is the one i remember most
Naw when his ass jumped out a 20 story window back first on a truck and only sprained his arm 😭😭
For me, the believably really slipped when he held the engine block with one bare hand. Everything else was stacked on top of it.
Dom is a literal racing/transport God of the modern era, that’s why shit is weird in his universe, the characters are even starting to become self aware.
05:39 i laughed so hard in the cinemas when he did this head spear thrust thing hahahaha i almost got kicked out
It literally happened in Fast & Furious..
started catching engines with one hand and doing superhuman driving feats..
after that he went full ego, having other hollywood tough guys coming in to take “losses” against Toretto..Rock, Statham, Cena, Tormund from GOT, and now Reacher and Momoa
The worst part about Dom’s antics are that for him to pull these things off… it would take the amount of math and physics and planning that the stunt coordinators needed. Yet, somehow, Dom just does these things spur of the moment without any planning and him or his car and all his friends always end up at the speed or location exactly where they’re always needed.
also zero thoughts about collateral damage, like sure it was for your family but every city you go to basically experiences a terrorist attack thats almost always directly tied to them
@@sangun123So goes the questionable morality of Hollywood execs.
I personally wanted things to continue like Tokyo drift, going to over countries showing their unique driving styles and cultures
Personally for me 5 was the last good one, ive watched up to 8 and I might watch 9 and 10 one day but it just isn't for me anymore and that's fine I hope the people who like them enjoy them
after 7 it was too much for me
Same for me, 5 is just "Almost Impossible but never impossible", a long journey ended, and a happy ending for all characters, after that, just watch the movie with your brain off, you'll appreciate it more without your brain
@@minatouzumaki405 yeah I mean 5 had mostly real stunts with very little CGI, a story that makes sense and let’s be real, everyone loves a good heist movie. The 7th one was the heaviest because it was Paul’s last movie which made it emotional. 8 was entertaining enough but everything else was god awful
I watched 9 once it was free...
still paid too much...
@@kaibalfour2318 that's what i mean, 6-10 is just too much cgi and revival nonsense, no racing like even 5 have a nice b-roll of cars before heist, and boy of boy don't forget about the whole agency's nonsense, and the fact that they need a flashback to get a new villains, really just shut your brains lol
Fun Fact: Working titles for The Fast and the Furious included "Racer X", "Redline" and "Race Wars"
Race wars is crazy title for 2023 😂
@@moddedmercury funny enough the name of his studio is now "one race" so like who won vin? whos the last remaining race???
No matter how illogical that flying off the bridge moment was, but you have to agree that was very creative and really stylish
There's one thing I love about this franchise is that they didn't forget the first rule of entertainment business which is to entertain unlike Disney with their woke agenda and identity politics.
Dom didn't stop being human. He was superhuman from the beginning. He's got the power of FAMILY after all.
"So you have a movie for me?"
"Yes sir, I do!"
Underrated 😂
I agree but id like to say the turn of Rome's character becoming the "straight man/voice of the audience" and being the sort of meta voice has been a refreshing funny addition. Because him bringing up their indestructibleness leans on what your saying in a comedic lampshady kind of way that i rather enjoy!
agree this moment broke the whole franchise for me and I can still remember laughing so hard when I watched it before basically crying myself to sleep
I watched the first 2 movies 20 years ago, then hadnt really kept up with the franchise at all.....Then watched Fast X on a overseas flight.....that was jarring - thanks for filling in the gaps :D
It really is a perfect storm that got is to where we are today lol. Clearly Vin’s ego is a big part of it, but he’s also very clearly listening to his audience. People liked the first 3 Fast movies, but 4 and especially 5 EXPLODED in popularity. So in his and the studios mind, they figured “oh maybe people don’t really care about the story, they’re really here for action scenes.” So the narrative took a back seat to the action. And I for one am all for it. We don’t have nearly enough movies that have creative and completely insane action scenes like F&F does.
I'm on the opposite camp
I liked the first few movies 2 fast 2 furious is my favourite one
And Paul walker is my protagonist not Dom
So obviously see you again is where the franchise ended for me
They drove into the sunset and lived happily ever after enjoying their family
The end
@@tpsam I agree but the franchise ended for me with six but the sunset scene in 7, is where it truly ends. It shows that Brian and Mia want to settle down and raise their kid away from this life, start fresh. It brings a tear to my eye every time I watch it.
Even after going to space like everyone predicted
Fans weren't satisfied
I was, though. It's beyond silly, and I'm glad they did it. Loved it :)
It was meant to be a joke. And the movie studio took it seriously 😂😂
I remember before 9 came out, people were joking saying "what's the next one gonna be, in space?" And sure enough it actually happened lol
I am glad to see a video addressing the Vin Diesel problem. F&F movies are made to be action filled but it does come at the expense of storytelling. By understanding that, I’m able to enjoy these films. However my main problem when watching Fast X was with Dom’s “invincibility”. There is virtually no scene where this character bleeds, suffers or shows any sign of fatigue. To me, it lowers the stakes and takes away from what the movie is trying to achieve.
Dom holding an engine block with his arm extended out that way (which would have broken his shit) was the moment Dom was given super strength
Only thing Dom needs is spiderwebs, seems to do alright in midair. Doesn't need armour, has steve rogers tier durability, and Cage lvls strength, cracked concrete with a stomp.
Fast and furious is when I get a simple idea and somehow end up overcomplicating it beyond recognition.
That catch didn't make me go "damn that's epic", but "damn, he become Hancock"
I wonder what Vin Diesel is gonna do once he's done with the FF franchise
Because he hasn't done anything interesting lately besides saying I AM GROOT
Isn't it obvious?
*Fast And the Groot: Guardians 4*
He's almost 60, he's not gonna do anything else cuz he doesn't need to, this is his cash set
I hear that a new Riddick is in the works. Idk how they're gonna pull that off because the dude is getting old. But, honestly, he doesn't need to do anything. Mans is set.
@@jase276 I'm starting to lose hope on Riddick, his chances of playing him was before 2013 and he wasted time afterwards doing Bloodshot and Witch Hunter, both were fine but his best character is Riddick....like why buy the rights to him if he isn't gonna use him correctly? Dude could've had 2 or 3 more films done by now, THEN he could finish out Fast Furious
Other stars have done this kind of thing but Vin won't, yet he claims to love Riddick....I just don't get it
the entire fast cast's careers are going down the drain, at this point they just do it cause they dont have any other prospects.
1st mistake - Not ending the franchise after Fast 5.
2nd mistake - Not ending it after Furious 7.
F7 had such a beautiful and perfect ending. The scope for a sequel does not even exist.. But the writers you know... forcefully created stupid and senseless storylines and destroyed the franchise
Superpower: Nothing is impossible if you got family.
Obviously 😂
They literally made Dom, Shaw, Hobbs, and Jakob possess peak human physicality.
For me, Dom suffered serius head injuries in the last stand (the car crash with the train...) with Brian in Fast & Furious and remain in coma... dreaming the rest of the franchise.
The 5th installment was the best, but 4th is a also a nice movie, I liked it.
For me 2nd part was maybe not as good as the first one, but really near to that. I don't understand those negative reviews.
The 7th was the end and they should've let it be that way.
I accepted that series as long as Paul Walker was there.
Came to the comment section just so that I can find this. Thanks!
Dom went from getting agitated over police cars and being too scared to drive the Family Car to stomping parking lots and using his car as a literal weapon
It the power of FAMILY that gives Dom his superpowers.
The series is lowkey so ridiculous i love it
I love my Dumb Fun Fast Franchise. The first one really was lightning in a bottle.
Sometimes you just want a movie where you can watch explosions and action, and thats where this franchise comes in. I'm all for it. Its the same as the Transformers franchise - yeah they shouldve stopped at the third, but its always great to go watch giant transforming robots fight each other. There's just something cool about it. Same with the Godzilla movies, or Pacific Rim.
These kinds of movies are really fun to watch if you take them at face value. Not every movie is intended to be deep or realistic or symbolic of anything. Sometimes its just to see cool stuff.
Yes exactly. There are movies to watch for intriguing storytelling and characters, and there are times where you just wanna see something go boom.
Honestly this was a very logical breakdown and I appreciate you voicing all my feelings as a guy who has almost 20 years doing serious surgery on cars and lots of dangerous recreational fun.
fast and furious is one of those franchises i can watch dozens of times and still not know what the heck i just watched by the end of it
TBH I really like the 3 first movies because they are a really good trilogy about street racing culture, yeah the first one is basically Point Break with tuner cars, but the fact the Diesel denied appearing on the next 2 movies and only a cameo on Tokyo Drift in exchange on the Riddick franchise rights, could be the best thing it could happen to those movies.
I mean, it wouldn't make sense having Toretto back with Bryan immediately, as I see it, he was laying low, and it have Bryan to actually became a great street racer now that he's unemployed, and the turn of having him work with the FBI and also redeem himself with an old fried whom he had the opportunity to make the same thing with Toretto but actually imprisoned himself it really good, and it's Miami so I really loved it and it still was this underground racing story as well.
And Tokyo Drift felt like this great extension of showing us other street racing cultures with a really good standalone story and seeing Toretto in the end kinda makes sense, like thinking he got himself trafficked into Japan and that he started gathering a new family member there, was cool, and that's it, because when it became this heist movie thing I really lost it, and now that this is the MCU but with cars even worse, but yeah, these movies are enjoyable and I understand why people enjoy them it's just not my cup of tea as people say.
6:50 the difference is dom got family 🗿
Hobbs and Shaw too was crazy but entertaining
In my heart the F&F franchise ends with F&F7. My one complain about these movies is that from F&F4 on Brian O'Conner felt relegated to a supporting character, which is very unfair considering his character started the story
I had no idea there were so many of these movies. Literally havnt watched a single one since 2
About the engine block being held with an arm, I could see a professional grade chain hoist doing that. Mechanical advantage and all that.
I made a similar comment reminds me of a joke my grandpa would tell me when I was kid.
"I can lift a car with one hand with Jack"
when i was little, i just thought my grandpa was insanely strong, and I've never met Jack.
@@xjmg007 where I work, we have a chain hoist that can lift several tons and you can do it with with minimal effort. You have to pull a lot of length, but it's super easy. So I can see a 500 or so pound engine block being stopped with one arm. Where I have doubts is getting that timing that close lol
I think that you can forgive most of the narrative flaws and unrealistic strength of Dominic Toretto because it's just a movie meant purely to entertain you. It's unpretentious and always delivers exactly what the trailers and the name is associated with. Sometimes, it's okay to have a movie meant to just be fun.
You're right, but it's funny
For me in FAST X bringing back that character at the end made me feel like I was watching a Marvel/DC movie. Nobody dies in the Fast and Furious films even if you die in real life
My head canon for this franchise is Dom's in a coma after he's knocked out in Fast and Furious 7, I know Dom wakes up but what if he woke up in his mind not the real world, it would sure explain alot.
Toretto can space and time and tear the fabric of the universe because he has the power of Family.
The thing is you can't only do races street car based movies for so long specially if the actors are the same, I believe it was the only way to make it last the way it did. Do you imagine only seeing sequels after sequels where the main protagonist Vin diesel , Paul walker only doing street race ? Eventually it will get to a point where they 'll have to get out of the loop and get the tangent .
No, you can definitely just keep doing races if you want. Millions of people watch racing every week
@@Bdavis2475 is that why tokyo drift did bad at the box office or need for speed not getting a 2nd movie?
This is true for many other franchises as well. Once these "franchises" become established with yearly releases, you just know the main character will be fine. You never worry about them anymore. The stakes go down no matter how hard they try to artificially pump it up.
I noticed a similar thing in John Wick, and even the MCU.
The first movies actually gave you the sense that the hero can actually get hurt or die right during the action. Every fight is difficult and potentially the last for the struggling hero. Some good examples are John Wick 1, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Thor 1, Spider-Man 1 and 2, etc. Yes the heroes are plenty capable, but its not so easy for them to defeat everyone.
But once they get famous, they'll just effortlessly take down hordes of enemies and villains, and you never care for them like you did in the first movies. Its just too easy for them.
This is how we end up with "junk food" movies. No authentic stakes, just guns and explosions.
0:45 In flated ego😂i see what you did there about that exact scene.
I can't help but laugh when I think of that fact that this movie franchise went from Dom looking like he was hurt pretty bad (looked like a dislocated shoulder, probably still less minor than it should have been) after a car accident in the first movie to what you see happening in the initial 10-15 seconds of this video where he not only crashes his car, he flies hundreds of feet in the air, catches somebody (mid-air mind you) and then lands on the windshield of another car with the weight of another person also landing on him and he is perfectly fine. All you need is family and to have a say in how powerful, immortal and immune to injuries your character is.
Dom took a bullet in Fast and Furious and shrugged it off. That is superhero for sure.
"Toretto suffers no emotional loss"
Yes, he does. He loses his best friend, his lifetime partner and the mother of his kid.
The "Toretto Super Hero" trope comes from Diesel's childhood. He was a nerd in a time when being a nerd cost you instant bullying in school. Believe it or not, Vin Diesel is, because of his age and fondness of tabletop RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons, the embodiment of one of "Stranger Things" kids, turned a steroid-driven badass.
Mind you, all the kids his age group that suffered "nerd treatment" that I know(Myself included) work out and/or practice martial arts. Been hitting the gym for thirty years and still look buff while the "cool kids" of my school have become fat boomers. The "Toretto Expanded Universe" is a reflection of that.
The thing is, this used to be Paul Walker's franchise. He was the main protag, the person living a double life, the one whose perspective we follow through.. And it shows, he was the one pushing the show forward and Dom was more of a side character to be a supporting pillar, an anchor of sorts - but not the one steering the show. After Paul Walker's death, Vin Diesel took over the role of lead not just as a character, but also as a director in a sense. He became the show -or rather, the show became him. Now he was the center of every plot point. The intrigue, the drama, the family, the vendetta of the bad guys ..literally everything. In my opinion it is extremely distasteful how he took what Paul made great (with the help of every cast member ofc) and then turned it into a powertrip fantasy of Vin Diesel himself who always ends up turning every franchise he stars in into a pseudo superhero story with him as the main character who owns the world and powers through any trial without any sign of consequence from real hardship.
Good comment
Agree, franchise should've respectfully came to an end when Paul died. But uncle fester had other plans and now it's booty. Mamoa was good in 10 though lol
@@nickbeam5541 for real, Mamoa looked like he was the only one having fun lmao - actually carried the whole script because everything else was a total shitshow haha
@Real_MisterSir He stole the movie. Yeah everything else was booty.
very good point, because even if initally it wasnt written as paul walker as the singular protagonist, the fact that we as the audience watched the sequel without vin, and saw paul go through his whole journey to quitting the police force, so in every sense in the audiences point of view Paul was the steady character that was always there, there really isn't anyone to oppose Vin ironically in the story and IRL, in the story sense, everyone else seems to be below Dom while Paul was more like a unofficial blood brother type thing, now Dom basically has henchmen
Jumping from one car to the other is more realistic than him catching an entire engine with one arm without it tearing his shoulder clean off!! Your the first RUclipsr I’ve seen to comment on the engine scene! 👏
I'm just waiting for the Avengers to recruit Dom
for me it was in Fast and Furious 4 (when Dom gets shot in the back in Mexico after the big tunnel run and all he does is turn around and look at the shooter angrily and punch him then walk away like nothing happened.)