How To Replace Subfloor In An Old House
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2021
- Repairing a damaged subfloor is serious business, but it doesn't have to be scary. Learn from Eduard Tarusov as he diagnoses their moisture issues & fix their rotten kitchen flooring.
Difficulty Level: Advanced. If you are not 100% confident with removing and replacing a subfloor, I recommend that you hire a professional.
One of the benefits of removing the old flooring is it allows you the chance to fix any loose subflooring or squeaks by re-securing the main subfloor to the floor joists prior to installing the new flooring. With all that being said though the answer is YES you can install New Wood Flooring over the old.
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lately I've been looking for cheap houses to buy because I'm tired of renting and I realized that there's a lot of material on youtube about renovating poorly maintained houses, if you start creating content for this genre, it will definitely help many people like me who don't they have the money to pay a contractor and they want to try to do things with their own hands, but all they find are videos of expensive home renovations for rich people.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was in the same situation. There is some great content. I sold the house, but I will be looking for another one. I will be posting something soon.
@@shedever_designs great, thanks
Right! I hate that people always think someone is being cheap and dont want to pay their contractor. Thats not always the case! Some of us arent rich or drug dealers. Some of us who arent rich still need work done and contractors are severely over priced lately because its a matter of the contractor choosing which jobs they want to take based on the amount its paying instead of taking every job they can get because they are in such high demand. Ive been shitted by so many contractors just doing what ever the hell they want in my house and I find the damage later that I just decided to start doing my own work. Its tough considering my job is labor intensive as well but seems you can never get anything done right unless you do it yourself. Even when you pay.
@Lilmiket1000 Exactly. I 100% agree with you. I have hired people before who claimed they're professionals and I later had to re-do things after them. If I "newbie" can detect their mistakes, that's not good. And they charge so much I simply can't afford their work. I would love to be wealthy but I am not.
I always admire someone who is willing to admit their mistakes and tell others to help them not make the same mistakes! Good job!!!
Thank you very much. Yeah. Of course. We all make mistakes
scamdemic is why I subscribed
@@g.h.1726 A lot of people are gonna hate me for saying that.
You are the getter done kind of guy, you have nothing to be ashamed of thanks for letting us tag along with you.
Play safe from Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada.
Tahnk you very much Scott. I appriciate your positivity :) God bless you
Don't be one of them channels that gives us this good ass shit then stops for like a whole five years!! KEEP THIS GOOD ASS SHIT UP MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey. I am really sorry. I sold the house. It was a terrible investment. I am in a process of looking for a new fixer upper. Thank you so much.
@@shedever_designs Alright main sir, just stay up in it.
@@sorongana5346 Thank you very much. God bless you Soro.
I just like watching people work on houses. Keep the content coming!
@@MoneyManHolmes Thank you very much
Same, man. I'm a computer guy, too, and I appreciate the video! I have the same issue in my bedroom; the wood floor is a true 3/4". The segment where you take the core sample to Lowe's as a measure is a fantastic idea! I assumed (wrongly) that wood floors and subfloors were true 3/4in and I should have known better. Cheers!
Thank you for your time and comment Michael. Yeah it's one of those things., It was fun learning how to replace the subfloor. I wish you luck on your remodel. Measure twice, cut once :)
Thank you, everyone, for your questions, comments, and support. Just wanted to point out a few things. When I recorded this video, I had no intentions to upload it on youtube, therefore it ended up not very educational. Rather "showing timelapse of how I did it". I hope that soon I will be able to upload videos that are more educational. Thank you for your time. Let me know what kind of videos you'd like to see. Take care.
Bro. Stop lying 🤣
I have learn a ton here....
Oooh boi! Look at his new nail gun and compressor! I geeked
Thank you Dminic! Have an amazing day.
Good job buddy!! The only way to learn how to swim is to jump in and start treading water! Excellent work my friend.
Thank you very much :)
Great video. One comment: I wouldn't use nails to hold the subfloor down. Use screws. Nails will come up over time
Thank you very much. It was not mentioned in the video. But I actually put a few screws afterwards as I did some more research on how it was suppose to be done and found that screws are better :).
Soooo GOOD I had to watch this twice!!! Thank You for taking the time to create and share this wonderful tutorial video with us all ❤
Wow. So kind of you. Thank you so much.
You speed played all the most important things to see. In fact pretty much the whole process.
Sorry about that. I am kind of new to this. Next time I'll do better :)
@@shedever_designs You did just fine, you can not please everyone no matter if the information is free. Keep up the good work.
@@lmartin3601 Thank you. I had no intentions to put this on youtube, but when I was done, I thought why not share with people. Next time I hope to do a better job :)
You did a great job! No nasty comments here... Thank you.
Thank you very much
2:55 and minutes before: You should use a digital caliper, much easier and accurate when your counting such small fractions/decimals.. Secondly, I was at a HD yesterday explaing same thing to old guy employee and he said he used to do floors and they'd use roofing tar paper to close-up the differance if there was any. I'm doing same project btw, removing same type floor boards and replacing with 3/4" (23/32) sheathing ply-wood. My old floor measures between .73 and .74" and the ply-wood is showing me about the same with my caliper..my measurements have a slight contradiction with what the manufacturer states as the "actual thickness". I used a small pocket size digital caliper which I bought in the tool section, measures up to 3" in length or thickness, shows fractions/decimals/millimeters. BTW I measured the hardwood ply and that was also different than the manufactures "actual thickness", twas about .75", the sanded was .70".
Thank you. We will give it a try next time.
Will do in the future. I am still learning. Thank you very much.
Love your honesty dude, you're great.
Thanks :) I tried.
Awesome job dude! Way to dive head first into the unknown. I'm redoing my bathroom right now and it has been - as you said - TEDIOUS! Haha. So many things to research, so many things to learn, so many new findings when you remove the tile, subfloor, toilet, etc. But that's the beauty of it all. I admire your efforts and your approach. Looks like it's coming out great (or at least at the time of this video). Cheers!
Thank you so much. So much positivity. Blessings to you.
I enjoyed seeing you and your helper doing the demo with the Estwing (crowbar). I'm doing that now. Definitely no shortcuts with this step!
Thank you very much. yeah. There are no shortcuts. Take care. Blessings.
"Scamdemic" I love that statement.
Thank you for the tip on Tongue facing WALL and the JIG you made. I'm busy replacing our Master Bedroom subfloor. What a mess. It is Glued, Screwed and nailed everywhere.
So, after a few more days of cutting, prying, grinding, leveling, I will be installing. However, I will not be gluing. I am using 2 1/2" decking screws, instead of nails and adhesive, to avoid the squeaks associated with subfloors installed with nails. Also, if the next owner needs to pull this flooring up, he will not have the nightmare I am having right now.
Oh yeah, this is my first subfloor as well. Thank the Lord for RUclips video uploads like yours.
Thank you for the video, Sir.
Wow. Thank you so much. I agree with you. Remodeling this would be nothing but pain.
Cool video
. Great inspiration for my subfloor next week
Good luck!
Even if you're new to it it's great that you're willing to delve into all of the guts of a home with that level of confidence! Appreciate the vid and keep it up! 👍
Thank you so much. I just could not afford to hire someone to do it for me. As I don't make very much money, I do a lot of the work myself. I wish I could hire professionals but I just simply can't afford them at this time in my life. :)
Thank you for this, very helpful!
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
Thank you so much for this video you just gave me confidence to do my flooring
Wow. Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings. Good luck to ya.
You have done really well for a first timer
Thank you Kerri. I appriciate you taking your time to say positive things. God bless you.
I think you just gave me the push I needed to do the same thing in a room in my house !!!
It's not that hard and not scary. Just got to do it.
Great video dude!
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
Great work there. Like you, I'm redoing my floor and I'm no pro but my strong points are walls, doors, and electricity. Never fixed a floor but shouldn't be nearly as much to do though cause it's on a slab. But this video gave me an idea of exactly how to do it. I'll get started tomorrow.
Yeah. Good luck to you on your build.
Thanks for sharing. It looks good
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
Good job👍 Thanks for sharing
wow Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
75k views, more than 1,000 likes and over 100 positive comments under a video like this one?, I am shocked. Thank you everyone who's watching this and educating me on how things need to be done. I plan to grow this channel, just need to do a few things financially first so I can upload educational videos. Please let me know what kind of videos you would like to see, and how I can improve my videos. Thank you again dear friends.
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
Great job!
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
hey, great job with your video and how it all worked out. Would love to see finished results.
Wish I recorded the finished product. It turned out pretty good actually.
Good job!
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
nice work
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
Thanks for the video
Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
good video you did amazing!!!
Wow. Such kind words. Thank you very much. Take care. Blessings.
Nice 👍 video thanks
Doing a new subfloor as well, from what I found #10 3 inch screws seem to be the best for 3/4 inch plywood.
Good luck to you ))
@@shedever_designs got done 2 weeks ago, decided to do 3/4 inch screwed with #10 3 in and nailed 1/2 inch to cover the cracks and provide a sturdier non squeak floor. love my new flooring.
hard part was replacing all the joists...... rotted out junk that was stabbed by morons who can't level to save their life...... i wish i knew who worked on this house prior.
I love videos like this. Just mirroring a suggestion you've already gotten, before you do time lapses you should show whatever you're doing in detail for a moment. I love time lapses but also want some of the smaller details.
Hey, thank you. Will try next time :). In my next videos
Nice Bro but I was hoping to see what you were gonna finish it with... What did you use and did you do a Video about that one cuz I would love to see it completed... But excellent Video and thanks for doing it cuz it was very useful...!!!
Thank you very much. Unfortunately, I had to sell the house. It was in extremely bad condition. I kept on discovering new issues. It would cost me way too much to fix it. Especially that I am a perfectionist. So I sold it. Took loss, and going to look for a different home. I will be uploading more, just got to buy some kind of house first.
Good job! How you reinforced the joists properly for the Island?
I don't know if you saw in the video, but I have added a few joists, same size as the existing, and I put blocking to make the floor level. Now the floor is so strong you could park a heavy car inside and it would not sagg.
cool 👍 good job
Thank you so much )
I thought you were going to bite it like a cookie after you measured
it xD
Haha. No its nasty
Did you replace the small pieces under the drywall ?
can you use 2x4 studs (non pressure treated) to reinforce between the joists instead of 2x6? also what is the spacing required between the reinforcement pieces?
I honestly don't know the answer. I heard that using 3/4" plywood is much better than even a 2x6. If you want to reinforce the existing joist, you could sister on a plywood, that is the same height as the existing joist. Do that on both sides. That's what I heard from people who remodel a lot of old houses. I don't know how true or how legit this method is.
The DeWalt sponsorship came thru in a clutch 💪🏿
I love DeWalt. Wish they'd be giving out gifts lol. I buy their tools with my own money.
Doing a similar thing. Tried a facelift remodel of my master bedroom and ended up having to cut open a 12ft span of the floor to replace termite/rot damaged joists and jack things up because the corner foundation is sunk about 1". I had to rip out my subfloor around the walls so I had to ude little subfloor 1" blocks under every joist/block around the walls to jack it up and then cut notches in my subflooring to slide it up under the bottom plate of the framing. It's a freaking nightmare to replace subflooring when the walls basically all sit on top of it.
Yeah. I know what you mean. I wish we put our subfloors like they do in Europe. They don't put walls on the subfloor.
Спасибо за видео!
Пожалуйста. Откуда ты?
Maybe I'm missing something--but do you finally put fiberglas or some other insulation beneath the floor?
We did later. Not in the video.
Just about to replace my subfloor and literally about to start cutting! Curious: why did you set your blade for 1.5” when the subfloor boards are 3/4”?
I needed to cut through the hardwood finish boards which are 3/4" and the Subfloor which is also 3/4".
Whats the island you were talking abt ? I seen the 2 new joists but wheres the big beam thats holding it?
I'm asking because I'm remodeling my bathroom as well. Water damage to the basement smh from the toilet.
It's below. You couldn't see it in the video. Because I did not demo the whole floor. The beam is right in the center of the house.
@@shedever_designs but what is an island?
@@mqass7677 kitchen island
LOL. there are shims, you can use, to put on the joists, that will bring up the floor to the true 3/4, with the new material. The plastic ones were cheaper, but there are also metal ones.
Sure, but the joists were damaged. They needed to be repaired. (fixed). That's why I sistered on additional joists.
You need to give more detailed information when you're assembling things such as spacing between boards and walls. How you reinforced the joists properly. Things like that. People want details that are crucial to the job. Thats how you can up your subs and quality. Up close footage and specifics.
Good job though, at least you're making videos and repairing things on your own.
Hi Christ. Thank you for your feedback. For sure. I agree. This video is a bit useless. Will do a better job at recording next time. Got a lot to learn.
@@shedever_designs it will be more time consuming for you, but take the extra camera time to show them details and you'll probably end up making money with your videos... which can help fund some of those renovations! Lol win win for us all. Peace! ✝️
@@shedever_designs no, it's not useless, it helped me . Good job.
@@christislord6136 Thank you Sir. I really hope I will find a camera person. Because recording and doing work is hard. I hope I hope I hope soon I will find a helper. :)
I'd suggest screws for the subfloor to stop squeaks. Otherwise nice video.
Hi. Thank you for your time. Yeah, I did use screws too. I just did not show it in the video. Very good point. Thank you.
How long did it take you and helper to remove old and install new one. Actual work time please🙏 and what was your material price ball park number? Thanks
I would say 12 - 14 hours total.
Will the OSB not absorb moisture since it's above ground?
By advantech. Its superior in all ways and it would take months of being way before it failed
What would be an the average repair cost for a 1,250 square foot apartment? Replacing floor subfloor and probably even the joists to add more support?
I honestly have no idea. I would assume a few thousand dollars. It's not that difficult of a job honestly. If you have a helper.
I must have missed it, but where did you find the wood? What store did you go to?
I was able to find plywood or OSB subfloor sheets at a local home depot store. Some didn't have them because during the pandemic times, people were buying all the lumber, so stores were half empty.
Cool.... Please tell me that installing a new rubber flat roof is no big deal!!! Mine is spungy
Thanks
It's easy. You can do it. :). Roofing is easier that changing a subfloor.
Is it possible to get rid of the subfloor and put concrete floor as a base?
Everything is possible. You just got to make sure the joists are strong enough for that. I'd get an inspector and could builders to come out and take a look at the condition of your existing joists. I have seen it done. So it's possible.
Did you replace the plumbing drain lines?
A plumbing company have completely re done the plumbing in the whole house.
Did you check for asbestos before you did the reno?
I did. We had it professionally removed. I hired skilled guys.
Question
Is this a DIY or for a professional I have a restroom that has water damage
I am not a professional. But this video might encourage you to give it a try. It's not that difficult, to be honest. Just takes some time.
I seriously doubt 1/32nd of an inch would make a significant difference - no framing carpenters work to that tolorance. Would love to hear why he thinks that's the case...
Hi. I had to get mine as close I humanly could. The old house that I bought had floor issues throughout the whole house. I was thinking "If I am going to fix the floor", I am going to make it as straight and as rigid as possible. Otherwise why even bother. Unfortunately I ended up selling this house as I needed to dump way too much money than I'd ever be able to get out of it. I made a mistake buying a house without a proper inspection.
$48.34 per sheet as of July 23, 2021, at Home Depot.
That's pretty crazy.
@@dvizhuxa2244 I bought it at $80.
@@walterdiaz2003 That is insane. Prices have came down a bit.
@@shedever_designs yeah, and the worst part is that I still have them in the basement ready to be worked out. I feel like it's bitcoin.....
@@walterdiaz2003 Haha. I know what you mean. Everyting that goes up, will eventually go down. Life is cyclical. :).
Can U show a how to build a washroom on the upper floor of a wooden house.. like a simple bathroom ..
I would love too. Soon I'll be uploading new videos.
With good 1/2 ply running $50 a sheet I did mine in 2×4. An extra $ dollars but won't delaminate and solid as a rock. The extra $7 is not a big impediment in my mind.
That's awesome Clark.
Im working on my kitchen but the subfloor is already very patchy. I cant decide if i should replace it or just lay plywood on top. I did remove the original wooden floor
That's awesome. Good job.
How long did it take you to complete that?
With the help, I would say about two days. If I knew what I was doing and had all the stuff ready, I think I could do it in 8 hours.
Great job for first floor. Can you come do mine? Just kidding but I am looking because I got to get a whole in my kitchen door under sink replaced but I am afraid it is going to require a lot more work because main seal hoist is rotted away now.
It's a lot of work my friend. I don't think I'd ever want to do another job like this. It takes so much time, such a nasty process. But the result is satisfying.
Do you have to add any other thing on top of plywood before adding floors?
You don't have too. But you can
Pl400 is good stuff before it will let loose either the plywood or joists will fail also always cut the tongue off and but it to the old
Thanks a lot
Glue and screw. Nailing is never as strong.
True. Used screws too
So particle board is acceptable for subfloor? I thought you'd have to use actual plywood in order for it to last.
An actual plywood is much much better than OSB. I am not using particle boards. I am using highest quality OSB Subfloor sheets. They are meant for subfloor. You would have a very difficult time trying to break it in half. Honestly it's very rigid. That's what they use on the new homes, apartments. It's approved, so. If it lasts 30 - 60 years, I am happy.
Came across this concept in other videos as well: replace a subfloor after water damage, with a material that is susceptible of water damage. 🤷♂️
I hired a professional plumber who re-plumbed the whole house. We shouldn't have any leaks now.
Why can you not buy larger beams and raise it up to make the 3/4 plywood match with existing plywood
You could. I am sure there is more than one way to take care of this issue.
3 months ago I paid $79 dollars a SHEET for 3/4" treated plywood. Where were you seeing anything close for $59?
This was 6 to 9 months ago. Prices have gone up.
@@dvizhuxa2244 They sure have. I'd love to see them drop even 10 percent. I thought maybe they lived somewhere where there was a sawmill or something. It was a good video either way. I learned a bit. Thanks for the reply!
@@me_TJ_MrB Thank you very much. Where I live, the prices have came down a bit. Lumber is much cheaper now.
@@shedever_designs Oh, youre so lucky ! I wish so much they would come down here. I live in the South and even with all our lumber yards and forests the prices are still at $78.80 for 4x8 3/4 in plywood , $77.44 for Advantech , and 71.00 for that particle board stuff like they build houses with. I need sub flooring wood badly but just about run out of money . I went 2000 over the budget for repairs to my house just on lumber alone. Even a 4x8 sheet of 1/4 inch Luan is 52.00 and it's good for nothing other than a wall panel or decor/ finishing. I pray it goes down here before winter kicks in.
@@me_TJ_MrB Yeah, that sucks. Have you tried looking at craigslist? Offerup? Facebook groups? Sometimes you can get a better deal on there, but you'd probably pay cash. Wish I could help. Lumber here is about 25% cheaper than what it was a month ago.
By cutting out the entire perimeter of the room to replace the subfloor, isn't the walls on top of the subfloor? By cutting out the perimeter, isnt the walls going to fall down since the wall sits ontop of the subfloor?
I'm not sure you have noticed, but no, I have reinforced the existing subfloor where the walls are. I put blockings. You should see it in the video. A professional builder told me to do so because it helps to make it stronger. It would be nearly impossible to pull the existing old subfloor wood from under the exterior walls. It's possible but insanely difficult.
I hate osb flooring. I have replaced so much of that with actual hard woods and ply woods.
I know what you mean. It sucks. :(
dont use nails on your subfloor thats how you get noise floor when you walk on them. always use screws
Yes sir. :)
I always wanted to know how they build and make. Apartment and houses floors so they won’t fall. For a long time…,
Yeah. It's fun. Watch some time lapses of how people build houses on internet. They're fun.
@@shedever_designs Yea its really cool to be able to watch it online.
@@shedever_designs Yea its really nice to be able to watch it online.
Was good to see a project turn out good, but should rename the video to "Watch someone replace subfloor". No explanation about anything.....the whole "How to" part that is needed in a how to video.
Next video, we will make better. This was our first video. Not a lot of experience
Didn't see the layment of the osb.
What do you mean?
@@shedever_designs have to look at the video again
I highly recommend shopping for plywood at an actual lumber store. I have had way better luck getting the right thickness, better service, and price.
Good idea. I'll check it out next time.
you didn't clean the ground under the new floor ?
Hi Robert, I did. It's not in the video, but I cleaned the whole basement/crawlspace. It's just not in the video. I had no plans to put this video on youtube so this video is not professionally made.
@@shedever_designs oh, also don't understand why in some houses the basement is so low , only 0,5 meter ( 1,5 foot ), imagine having to repair some water tubes etc , very incomfortable
@@santaclaus179 I know. It's redicilous. People don't think or plan ahead. I work as an Architect assistant in Washington state. We make our clients make the crawl space a minimum 36". The code here is 18" minimum. Honestly I wish the code was 24" minimum, because by the time you run all your pipes, gas pipes, duct work, waste and water supply, you loose additional height, and it sucks for plumbers to repair anything. I think the main issue why is because people don't care or their budget is very very low.
I thought youbweee going to replace the beams
Not this time my friend. :)
Anyone that uses 'scamdemic' to describe what this world is going through is OK by me!
Good job on the floor too!!
Hey Richard. I didn't call "scamdamic" what's happening in the world. Rather what the Elite is making it to be, or what the government does to use. Let's admit, we are nothing to them. But the virus thing is real.
Hey. Thank you for your time. I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts
Why use adhesive when u are using nails?
I actually used screws too. 50% nails and 50% screws.
Let me guess true 3/4 o 3/4 wow 3/4 is it 3/4 are u sure 3//4
Hahahahahaha 🤣🤣
Doesn't that type of wood swell with like 1 drop of water!? 🤔
Sure does haha.
Just add Packers
I am not sure I know what they are. Explain please.
nobody worries about a 1/32 difference in construction 😂
I am a newbie haha. :)
OSB wood is not for floors the water is going to ruined it. You could of rented a floor sander and send out the old floor much better material
Not really. If done right, it wont. I mean the whole house is made out of wood. It will last. Just got to do things the right way, protect it from water and you'll be good.
Is that tongue and groove shiplap for a subfloor? That could have made you a pretty penny if you woulda gotten it out without many cuts
This was a regular 3/4" subfloor tongue and groove I used.
You missed showing the details!!
You are correct. In my next videos I will show details.
Nails are not a good choice to fasten subfloor. They will most likely pop out. Screws is the way to go
I agree. I actually put some screws afterwards. Thanks.
Love the scamdemic comment cause it's the honest to God truth
Hey Westly. I later figure I should keep these kinds of comments to myself. As It's a very controversial comment. Some people love it, some people hate it. Can't please everyone. Some people say so you don't believe in covid. But my comment was more about the situation rather than the virus itself. Anyway, glad you took it the right way. May God bless you.
Why use nails? Aren’t you going to end up with squeaky floors over time?
I actually used screws too. It's just I didn't capture it in the video. This floor is so strong now you could park a tank on it :)
You ripped out shiplap subfloor to replace it with plywood???
I'd fire you!!
Had you left the shiplap, you wouldn't have to worry about the weight of the island.
It was rotten in some areas and the whole floor was sagging almost an inch. And I told you that I'm a rookie. haha. This was my first time doing something like this.
Where are you from Russia Ukraine?
I'm from Russia. What about you?
Time laps does not show your viewers how you did your work, not interested in watching you r videos, will not watch you again
Hi Gorge, I am sorry my video did not help you. Sorry for wasting your time. I wish I did a better job so you would receive something you came here for. Anyway, there are plenty of good videos on youtube. Take your time, you will find what you are looking for. I am not getting paid for doing this. So quality/content isn't great. Take care, and God bless you.
Please show me how it's done. :)