How to prevent catalytic converter theft, I put a shield on my 2021 F-150
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2022
- Catalytic converter thefts are on the rise. I have been looking at products for a while now that might help prevent falling victim to the rise of cat theft. I found Talons Garage F-150 Transmission Skid/Catalytic Converter Anti-Theft Plate and was interested in seeing how well it would work. This is my initial impression of the skid plate and so far.... I LOVE it!!
Check out Talons Garage. This wasn't a sponsored video, I bought the catalytic converter skid plate but Talons garage sent me the front skid plate to test fit on a Powerboost and will likely do more content around the front skid plate as the product is developed in the future.
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When people start getting shot and killed while stealing these items, the problem will surely start to go away... Lol. Good stuff thanks for posting...
Come and take it! My cat that is
Totally agree!
most stealing these things are junkies with no regards for their own lives. I just caught 2 guys trying to take mine 2 late nights ago. they barely sped off. this morning it was all over the news that they hit 9 vehicles 3 blocks from me. I got lucky but know they will return
Like burglary or home invasion?
I can see injuring one of those guys guys but I wouldn't go so far as to kill someone for stealing a cat, that's a human life I will take and will have to live with that decision, now if they were threatening my life or that of my family it's a different story.
so happy to stumble upon your videos, cant wait to see future progress of your build :D
This is why your channel is number one bro you do things I can only think about doing keep up the good work I love your videos I am A F150 owner as well I love my truck👍👌
That was a great video for anyone thinking about protecting those cats. I have seen and read many articles about the issues with them being stolen. This lil shop could be the next heavy hitter in converter protection.
Great content Dan.
Thanks Marty. Unfortunately this is going to be a very common aftermarket accessory similar to the removable faceplates on head-units in the 90's needed to prevent radio smash and grabs.
@@GearsGadgets
Your always ahead of the curve.
Good content! Also we got the new Vehicle last Friday.
Can you provide what you ordered specifically for a PB.
Did you opt for the four special locking screw hardware kit?
The oil change door?
Did you use any special bolts, AKA security bolts, or do you think they're going to primarily cut?
Can you help me with the back plates on the powerboost..do they mount on top of the shield from Talon?
Is there anyway you could do a follow up “I’ve had this thing installed a month or two” video? Any issues with access to oil plug or overheating issues?
I installed this product on my 2021 F 150 and am very happy with it.
What about the screws would it be easy for a their to unscrew the screws to the plate
Great video! Any issues with the access panel and oil changes once this is installed?
i watched this the day you uploaded it and was going to order it but ended up getting caught up with work and forgot about it. Just had to park on the street since the driveway was full and i said to myself sh** why didnt i buy this thing and havent installed already, Im going inside and buying this thing right tf now . and.......Sold out.....and im pretty sure its because of this video lol. but still i wouldnt know if it werent for this video so i guess its a good thing . Thanks for the content . Picked up my lariat powerboost in december and 4k miles later its been nothing but a dream...knock on wood, your videos played a huge role in me making my final decisons.
Hi there!
just a question, ¿what about the screws? ¿do they can be off by any regular tool, or they are "key" pattern?
Thanks
Thanks for this. Is this simply all bolt on, no drilling for the 21 F-150’s
Quick question. I purchased the one for the cats. If I want the mid section then I need to purchase the front skid package
What neoprene washers did you use? Size? Link? How many neoprene washers are needed? Thx
Did they fix the front transfer case for powerboost? I have active airdam
There's an option for reinforced ribs; that increases the price by roughly $50. The website says that it's for improvement with offroading, but from a theft prevention point of view would it make any difference?
What size neoprene washers did you use?
Dan I Watch your video and I. just bought the catalytic converter skid plate can you tell me how long it takes just to install the Skid plate
Good video! Just ordered one for the PowerBoost.
Excellent information. Are you concerned any about over heating the catalytic converter with the shield? Just curious, I have no idea. I just got a 2022 F 150 Hybrid and deciding what all to do. I am really enjoying looking at your videos about the F 150 Hydrid! Thanking you in advance for your reply.
Are the Allen heads security headed? Stud in middle?
Great content; booked marked for if I ever get possession of the PowerBoost that I've had on order since mid-November.
Thanks Ross I appreciate that
Hey love your video..I bought the Talon Garage Catalytic converter shield..for my powerboost. It came with ZERO instructions so your video was very handy. I'm in the middle of the install. Got the front done..the back is NOT DONE. It's hard to tell in your video how u mounted the back plates
I installed this plate a week ago and my transmission is getting really hot up to 210 on a normal day and 217 towing light. Have you had this problem?
Hello do you know of anyone that makes something like this for super duty power strokes?
Im sad they don’t make it for my 2021 GMC Sierra AT4, hopefully they make it in the future, any other brand suggestion for my truck?
Great video. Another protection problem for too many people: not parking the vehicle in the garage or behind a gate. Some just can’t but too many people use their garage as a storage unit and their vehicle is outside 24/7. Security is almost always about making your property more difficult to steal.
Some people can’t fit a full sized truck in their garage, many are not deep enough.
So this fit a F150 Lariat 2022 ECOBOOT too?
Do you know if It is works with an F150 V8, FX4 package?
Do they make on for a 2017 Ford Expedition?
I have a Talon plate on my 4Runner. Simple install. I have a Cat Security on my Tacoma. The Cat Security fits well but I wish I had found Talons before I bought it.
Always good to be proactive.
That's the intent. Just sucks we have to live in this kind of world.
These will definitely help prevent converter theft and enhance the protection of a number of vital parts. My concern is whether or not these ventilate enough to prevent the converter overheating and setting fire to the vehicle. I would STRONGLY SUGGEST that prior to and after install that you compare before and after temperatures and try to get an idea whether the floors of the cab and bed aren't getting too hot to the point of melting wiring, carpet, insulation, fuel and brake lines, etc.
I'm not sure why these would prevent theft anymore than the OEM one. Both seem to require similar work to remove to get at the converter. If someone was ready to the job on an oem plate I'm not seeing what is stopping them from removing these plates? After watching this I'm more confident in my OEM plates already acting as a deterrent.
@@DadeMurphie What kind of plate did you get on your truck? Mine is felt and I got a 2021 XLT FX4.
My only thought are how much heat getting trap above the skid plates
That truck seems like it has very low clearance. Looked like it was a struggle to install the bolts, is there actually enough room under the truck without a jack to get to the cats easily?
I have a 21 F-150 Powerboost as well and have been thinking of way to protect the catalytic converter. Do you think the vehicle warranty will be voided by installing that plate? What about heat displacement, let us know if you notice heat buildup after installing the plate. Thanks for the video.
I can't see how it could void a warranty as it really doesn't touch a single element that they could claim broke due to the plate (Magnuson-Moss Act). In regards to temperature, It was already covered by that felt tray and the aluminum if anything is a much better heat sync. Out of curiosity I drove 45 minutes and touched the plate. First and foremost, I was extremely cautiously and far from the cats, then moved slowly closer. There was not a single place that was more than luke warm to the touch.
Thanks for making this video! Now with these plates, would you be able to change the oil without taking the plates off?
The model for the PB has a dedicated opening, they recommend using a aftermarket drain plug.
Would it be difficult to use bolts with some sort of novel heads? I like the plate itself but seems like if someone has a driver and some sockets they could just drop the whole thing in minutes.
Would this fit ‘23 f150 tremor?
I was thinking of doing this to my truck also. However, I wasn’t sure exactly how oil & filter changes will work. Do you have to remove the plates to access the drain plug and the front filter if you put the front plate on?
I will have to do a video on that, I really should have included that commentary in this video but since my truck wasn't due for a change I just kind of blew past that consideration. I did order the drain valve they recommend so I will do another video soon doing the oil change with the plate on.
@@GearsGadgets thanks, looking forward to it.
do you think the soft feltish covers over the cats are enough to increase the theft time, such that thieves will move on? or will they take the time to cut off the soft covers as well in order to get to the cats?
I think the soft covers are easy enough to just pull off by hand.
I ordered my skid plates for my Powerboost , thanks for the recommendation. I still want the front one in the future. I also wanted to let you know that I was disappointed with the handling of my truck in the ECO mode. Did you know that the sway bar in the front is very small comparing to other F150s out there. I installed a sway bar on the rear to start with and it solved about 50% of the issue. I’m waiting on a larger sway bar for the front to be available. I also have the CCD shock system. I do like it so far.
As someone with a heavy foot I love the smoothness of eco mode. I wish I could make it the default when I start up.
Just the regular F150 FX4 doesn’t need the extra plate does it? Just the cover for the catalytic
Converter? Correct?
That is correct.
As much fun it may seem to pick off someone under the truck, it maybe harder hiding the body. HaHa . I am waiting on my new Powerboost should be to me in less then 6 weeks at most I'm told now. I ordered my skid plates from Talons Garage for the F-150 Powerboost , thanks for the recommendation. Sorry you're not making on the sale. But I'm sure at one point they will be in demand. I am taking this time to make rear plates out of harden stainless, making it harder to cut or bend. Unless they hook into my beds 240 and bring their own plasma cutter. Thanks again for the videos.
I have a 2021 F-150 Powerboost - can a thief just unscrew the Catalytic converter skid plate? Or is it difficult to remove? I would love to have some peace of mind. Also can my local dealer install it?
I asked my dealer, and they said no. Because it was not factory. But it's worth asking.
Dan this is a subject that been on my mind I also have a f-150 powerboost I had the truck ppf and took off the powerboost badging but I am also looking on how to keep someone from stealing my catalytic converter this look like a simple solution my question is are there any holes that have to be drilled for the Mount The skid plate or can you use the pre-existing holes can you tell me what is the difference in the oil drain cover there’s two options regular and reinforce how is it reinforced and is it necessary to get the reinforced and how long does it take just to install this skid plate only
If you did the skid plate only for the cats I am guessing you could do it in 3ish hours. It uses all factory mounting holes but does take some time to organize and reach bolts. I think it is a solid solution. I will have to do a part 2 on the oil change thing, I kind of blew past that important part of the video because my truck isn't due for a change yet so I just didn't really think to mention it. That was a big thing I certainly missed and should have been talked about in the video. I bought their recommended drain valve but being that I have it installed without that valve now, I will be able to demonstrate what its like to change the oil WITH the valve, and with the standard plug. Stay tuned for that.
@@GearsGadgets Dan I want to thank you for replying back and can you tell me if you have to use the powerboost add on brackets to install the catalytic skid plates can’t want until your next video on the oil drain plug and change
I have a 2014 f150 someone just stole my Cadillac converter and they still the mirrors off my doors but I am so upset about this and I have to replace everything
Is there something that prevents a thief from just unscrewing the bolts in 2 minutes ?
I put the Raptor plate on my F150 platinum 3.5L TT for this reason, at least slow them down. Also, plastic transmission pan… ugh. Fiberboard and a good rock will take them out. I am interested in that front plate though. I’ll check them out! Thanks!
The big question I have is will this do double duty as a skid plate?
It is 1/4” aluminum plate, so yes.
I have a F150 2002 they stole my catalysts converter s my insurance paid for it but I need to order this we’re how do I Oder them?
A dude a few doors down had his stolen. Definitely getting a metal skid plate to hopefully protect against these losers.
Cops don’t care didn’t even want my cctv😂 footage whole area was hit that week wish I was awake when they were here would have been a party 🎉
I put a raptor transmission skid plateon my 2020. Costs 1/3of the talon one which is never in stock . Ford # HL3Z-7222-C just need two extra frame nuts and 2 more bolts .made of steel. Wraps around the outside of the frame.
Dan, it looks like the bottom of the corvette when you took the video from the front. Cleaning up the parasitic drag under the truck might just increase fuel mileage, never know. Good job.
Does this interfere / interact with the FX4 skid plates? I’m awaiting delivery of my FX4 so I can’t look under a FX4 truck to see for myself. :)
just got a powerboost FX4 2022 - did you yet and do you know if they (Talon) will fit? I'm going to look next time I can
Interesting idea. Have a couple of questions. Does it make oil changes much harder? I've heard that having a smooth underneath (Ha!), you can get better aerodynamics. Have you noticed any increase in MPG? Thanks for the video!
It has a cut out for oil draining but it is a pain changing the oil as the cutout needed to move over about 2 inches. I just got a cockvalve with a hose where you just open it and drains the oil no problem!
@@scooterman7888 Couldn't a theif just easy just take out the screws for the plate
@@DjTxTruth No! I had to take it off to put the cockvavle on and it took me a hour just to get 2 out of four bolts off. Plus I put on bolts that needs a special tool to take them out.
@@DjTxTruth Opps sorry I left the plate off and it makes it easier for a oil change. It's a 3 x 6 cutout but doesn't effect the whole cover.
@@scooterman7888 Can you tell me the name of the screw because I need to buy some
I’m trying to find a company that will make something to protect the DPF filter. That is a big issue and is $8500 to replace
I want to buy one of these so badly but the phone number listed in their website doesn't work, and they don't respond emails either.
Thanks for the video and I got mine on order after watching your video. I don’t really have the space to do the install myself so I’m taking it to my favorite mechanic and having them do it. I’m certain that a methhead will look under my truck, see the plate and move on to the next victim - I doubt they’ll even mess around with it. I didn’t really wanna spend $400 on a skid plate but it sure beats the shit out of $4000 for a new cat and who knows how long until it gets fixed. Thanks for the video.
What did the mechanic charge you for installation? Debating doing it myself or have someone with a lift install it.
I ended up hiring a mobile mechanic to come by the house. The install was about 2 hours, and he charged me under $200.
I concur, they don't want to get caught. I would bet they take one look at that plate and move on to the next truck!
Had three converters stolen off my Tundra…. While it was AT THE DEALERSHIP for service. Cost almost 5G to replace….. and a mess with the insurance and auto dealership both wanting the other to cover it…. Lost use of my truck for an extra week.
That 100% sounds like a dealer fault
So who paid for the replacements, insurance or the dealership?
Powerboost?? Is that another name for Ecoboost? Never heard it referred to as a Powerboost.
PowerBoost is a hybrid. It has the twin turbo 3.5L eco boost combined with an electric motor sandwiched between the motor and trans. It’s an interesting take on a hybrid where it’s focused more on turbo gas power first, electric second.
Anyone else having an issue with the power boost that the plate causes a crazy rattle noise?
Go buy some silicone tape from Home Depot and put it between the plates. It will stop. www.homedepot.com/p/Nashua-Tape-1-in-x-3-33-yd-Stretch-and-Seal-Self-Fusing-Silicone-Tape-in-Black-1743082/100206050?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D26P-026_002_AIR_CIRC_ACC-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-PMax&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D26P-026_002_AIR_CIRC_ACC-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NEW-PMax-71700000097492027--&gbraid=0AAAAADq61UdKTabiiXE2HZ39phTimo7x_&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhL6pBhDjARIsAGx8D581Blg5DrTPqGjzJXUsm7mL5CaEXqQmbehwwXkNNQ-9NLmI2R7W49MaAu-nEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Sawzall is a waste of time. For quick and easy access under the plate-- Milwaukee FUEL M18 5-3/8" Metal Saw -- Low profile, single hand use. Would make quick work of 1/4" aluminum.
I applaud your goal of at least slowing down the casual catalytic thieves but a concerted effort will reap rewards. Enough plates on vehicles and the thieves will adapt.
Still, good video and great idea to be forward thinking on self insuring yourself.
I don't subscribe to anyone, but I do like your content.
Cheers :-)
I somewhat agree that there will always be a tool for the job but no different than a glass window, a cloth tonneau cover, or a deadbolt lock. They are all easily defeated with basic tools or objects found on the ground. 99.9% of security measures are widely adopted because most thieves are morons looking for a quick hit and will just move on to the path of least resistance.
@@GearsGadgets I agree with this statement. Most times a window is broken is because something was visible. In the case of the plate it'll be a deterrent more than anything. They're more likely to just move on than mess with that.
Man my cousin in Kansas city has a 2019 Ram sum one down town took his he has 2 on duel pipes Rams cost $5900 insurance cost took a month because boats in California
Kool
I figured a way to install it..but its clearly not cut correctly. One side has a huge gap to the frame rail..the driver side is tight to frame rail. It's OFF. NO INSTRUCTIONS Either..I'm not a Happy Camper.
It's beautiful looking..
Out of stock. Popular item.
I'll just let the 85 lb staffy out. I trained him to attack the sound of a sawzall on a metal pipe.
Dan I have a powerboost also and I found a easy way to get rid of that annoying fake electric engine noise check out Mitch cox video on how to get rid of fake electric engine noise and I think this will benefit you when you are driving in electric mode
Ring ramps are cheap and work great for big boys to get under the truck.
and now you planted a bug to my head......V!
The news report you played clearly stated the car's owner was shot by the converter thief.
Yes it did
Scrap yards are the real villians
Had two cut off of my E-250, clamped two pipes where they were cut off and it failed inspection, been sitting in my yard since Jan. this year. A 11year old van has now become a storage shed, unfortunately I just filled up with gas the day before this happened, so I have about 35 gallons of weed killer sitting in the tank. Now they are drilling holes in the gas tanks to steal gas, maybe I need to dump 5 lbs. of sugar in my tank so when they come to take the gas out of this junk van LOL. Quoted $2500 to have to van fix, The van is not worth it. I heard some being killed as the car falls off the jack while cats are being cut off, Trucks are easy targets, no jack is needed.
off duty officer in houston just walked out of a grocery store to his cats getting stolen in the exact scenario you mentioned at the start of your video. He was killed. He shot two of three thieves in the process, but he ended up dead. sad all around.
Oh man that is so terrible. What a bunch of scumbags. Makes me sad to think people like this exist who would murder someone just to score a few bucks at the scrap yard.
1960 n Aldine Westfield I stay right across from that Joe V's where it happen
Here’s an idea, make it illegal to buy a cut out cat.
Its already illegal to steal them so what is another law going to do to prevent this. (ANSWER: Nothing) because thieves don't obey laws. Government can only do so much. The rest is up to the citizen and this video is just that. Don't give government that power and take care of your own.... Be a man!
I think maybe there stolen for the platinum?
5 hours to install wow
You need to borrow a floor jack? 😂
I have a floor jack but it wasn’t necessary and also wanted to show how it wasn’t hard to do without needing a lift.
@@GearsGadgets hmm. Okay
Tired of this stupid plastic cardboard skid Plate falling off the damn truck everytime I drive over some grass or a small rock. Idk how it falls off..its hanging down right freaking NIW
That would be a perfect time to collect insurance and go high flow downpipes 😎
Good information, but the music is borderline unbearable
Sad day when a person has to buy something like this to stop thieves from stealing a catalytic converter from your vehicle.The dip shits who are stealing these things should focus their energy on finding an actual job. Some people are just plain and simply fucked up.
I totally agree, I think these people are complete scumbags and deserve whatever projectiles come their way in the midst of being complete dirt balls.
RIP future oil changes
Super easy, remove the access panel for the oil pan, pull the skid plate on the front for the oil filter. If you can remove 8 screws, you are fine. If you can’t, you shouldn’t do your own oil changes anyway.
I believe this plate doesn't fit in a truck that has been lifted ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️💩
That's a Big NO from me.......This will only trap more heat under truck from the Hottest component of the vehicle. That's what insurance is for..........Thx for sharing
It already covered but the felt/plastic tray.
Chris is right, It was already covered by that felt tray and the aluminum if anything is a much better heat sync. Out of curiosity I drove 45 minutes and touched the plate. First and foremost, I was extremely cautiously and far from the cats, then moved slowly closer. There was not a single place that was more than luke warm to the touch.
Start quote " When the looting starts then the shooting starts" end quote President D.T.
Cool. Politics being inserted into every aspect of life for no reason. My favorite thing 🤮
You're not a lawyer, leave out the advice. Just plug your video.
Remember Democrat law makers gave the criminal rights not you.
🤦🏼♂️this isn’t a political issue. Last I checked there is zero right given by the right or left to steal catalytic converters, still illegal everywhere. Why do people love to find a way to assign politics to every aspect of life. I guess it’s easier to blindly blame politics than it is to apply critical thought to complex issues.
@@GearsGadgets Your correct they have zero rights to steal catalytic converters but here in NY there is no deterrent. Non violent criminals are released with an appearance ticket. No jail time no deterrent. Who put these no bail laws in effect here in NY? Democrat law makers that's who.
What are you talking about? The GOP is currently FILLED with potential criminals who aided and abetted the biggest criminal of all, Trump, in trying to steal an election. This video has nothing to do with politics.
I prevent this type of theft by driving an EV.
Fair
Let me know how your EV tows a 33’ camper for more than six hours at a time.
@@x3dominator28 That’s what my 2500 HD is for.
yeah...and you can go 230 miles and find a plug...lol, lol, lol...BTW, inflation, crime, interest rates - how's that biden vote working for ya now
@@JC-hi6yi I have a plug in my garage so I don’t have to go very far. Yeah Biden causing inflation worldwide it’s kind of crazy. I’m not sure exactly how he’s causing crime to rise in cities of all shapes and sizes red or blue but hey whatever narrative floats your boat.
A 45 or 357 does the same job and they won't come back!!! Damn shame how desperate democrats make people with a shitty economy!!! Think hard before you vote.
Catalytic converter theft doesn't start and stop based on who's elected president, people REALLY love to take everything straight to the White House as if its to blame for local crime trends. Scumbags have and always will exist regardless of mutually (regardless of party) ineffective politicians in office. You also missed my point of marching out in your driveway to shoot someone only to be shot down yourself by their scumbag accomplice hiding waiting in the shadows shooting you dead in your own driveway while you rightfully defend your property. The skid plate just alleviates your need to get politically fired up over non-political things, or getting killed playing Rambo. Now if those scumbags come through the door...... it will rain hellfire quicker than they can turn and run.
That music is annoying as shit.
That’s music was so annoying but good video
Fair enough, its not easy picking royalty free music for these videos. Lots of garbage to sift through and only so much time in the day. You really start to appreciate the people who are responsible for compelling movie soundtracks.
Horrible advice to say not to confront the thieves. So we just let the thieves do as they wish and steal, steal, steal!?
Don't listen to the video maker here. Be a man and kick the shit out of thieves. Liabilities?! Please. Any police department that will not side with the owners are probably in the theft business too.
I mean you can confront them and risk getting shot or you can just deal with insurance. The choice is yours.
No, liabilities like playing Rambo and running to pummel scum bags only to be shot in the back of the head yourself by a lookout that you were too angry and tunnel vision to see at that moment. Does your family value your catalytic converter more, or you more? It is incredible to me that you had such little practical thought through watching this "video maker" and actively typing this comment. Truly incredible.
@@GearsGadgets Thank you for your stance G&G. I'll be over to steal your CAT(s) often now.
@@GearsGadgets Totally agree with you Dan; really is a no brainer.
I have a suggestion, move out of the shit hole towns so you don’t have to worry about this!
So instead of spending a few hundred on a skid plate, my wife and I should quit our jobs, uproot our family, leave our life behind in a relatively safe city full of opportunity and move out to a rural mid-west town to avoid the potential inconvenience of petty crime that exists in virtually every city in America?
With that thought process you may as well just get rid of your vehicles because worrying about drunk drivers or rouge deer is not worth the expense of having car insurance.
I’m not interested in retreating into the forest and turning into bubble boy to address otherwise relatively simple solutions to defend against the few to live amongst the rest of the good.
I don’t live or work in a shithole town, and my ‘19 F-150 was hit by thieves. They’re usually people FROM shithole towns that go to nicer towns to steal
@@stevevex7765 Welcome To Joe Biden’s America where criminals have more rights than law biding citizens. When you decriminalize everything, this is what you get!
@@devilsmetsfan6393 Spot on 😬
You are not allowed to kill people because they steal from you. You are only allowed to shoot people that are trying to kill you or someone else. I think I understand what you were trying to say, but you should’ve said, “You will go to prison if you shoot someone stealing who is your catalytic converter. Don’t do it.”
Depends on state law and of course consult an attorney but here in Arizona it is legal to stop the commission of burglary with deadly force.
www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00411.htm
Of course because you can doesn’t mean you should as there are commonly lookouts standing by so if you shoot one guy, you might just get shot by the other guy which probably isn’t worth it to save a few grand.