Hey guys! This episode of GBNF was made from suggestions from fans who emailed us demanding this show be covered in this series. If you want to make suggestions for future episodes of GBNF then e-mail GBNFSeries@gmail.com and maybe we’ll cover your show! UPDATE!! So the show is no longer on Netflix. Bummer.
I agree with you... and they also alienated him from many elements of the storyline as the seasons moved on. You want your favorite characters that you invest emotionally in, or what's the point of the series. Which is hell to do and keep everyone coming back. They should have gone and done spin-offs. Like star trek, it would allowed for the older show to fade away. And newer ideas to flourish. where the 1st season is introduction to the worlds situation, New characters and previous series guests and so on. They looked to make something as integrately entwined as the wheel of time series and that's hell on tv.
Yeah, @CerealMilkDVD I noticed that when I started rewatching the series a week or so ago. It's leaving mid January, so I've been trying to finish before it leaves. Also, when it does leave I hope it becomes available somewhere else.
@@seanfalkenburg3434 yeah I was a little confused after I finish watching Joe blo's video that he said he doesn't think it's ever leaving and I'm sitting there like if you did the research on this you would have known that Netflix is taking it off the streaming site
@@CerealMilkDVDso the videos are written ahead of time. While I was editing the video and literally uploading it to check for copyright I noticed it was labeled as leaving soon which I missed. So either I could rewrite the line, send it to Jesse to re-record the line which would take a day since he is doing his own show and life obligation. Get it back edit the video and upload it in time to meet the schedule or I could leave it as is and let everyone in the comment educate each other over something (no offense) so minuscule.
Too complex?!? What you mean is, it was one of a vanishingly small number of shows this century that didn't completely insult its viewers' intelligence.
Too complex to bring in new viewers without them being lost. Ultimately, I think this show failed because of the TV format. New viewers could not just jump in and so, as they lost viewers, they were not gaining new ones to replace them or grow their audience. This show would have greatly benefited to the streaming format and would probably still be going if it started as a streaming show since new people could watch from the start.
@@richetoku Outside of procedural dramas and reality shows, all tv shows have a format that would leave a new viewer lost if they just jumped in on a random episode of a random season. That's not complexity. That's just how narratives work. Also, while the show aired on SyFy, it was streaming on Netflix.
I saw this comment at the top before watching, so had it in mind still when OP was discussing. I think the point was that this show was not a streaming original, so in order to gain new watchers after the first season, viewers would be asked to jump in to a story that really built upon past events more than some. I don't think it was meant to be critical of the writers so much as just to explain why viewers who stopped watching weren't being replaced at the same rate. Like, compare with Doctor Who, which has constant callbacks, but they are never central to understanding the current episode.
"I am the hero of this goddamned story, Ember! Remember? And the hero gets the reward!” “No, Quentin,” the Ram said. “The hero pays the price.” - The Magician King
"has been on Netflix for years and I don't see it leaving anytime soon." Video released a day after Netflix announced they are dropping it mid January. Woof.
Eh, just means its jumping to another streamer. You wait long enough, everything ends up on another platform. Hell, there are big HBO shows on Disney+ right now that I'd never would have believed MAX would let air anywhere else.
I loved that not only could magic not cure cancer, but there was a theory that cancer WAS MAGICAL in nature. Magic went away, so Quinton's cancer went into full remission. Magic comes back, and the cancer returns with a vengeance.
basically if you have the patience just watch it start to finish. it's quite beautiful and human. make your own decision on season 5. it had to wrap up a lot in one season instead of two but overall the general premise of magic existing in our morally questionable world is so engaging and intriguing
The way I see it, at the end of S5 the 4 heroes on Fillory were basically starting over. They were like the new Ember and Umber of the place. So many possibilities.
but that whole storyline about Fillory needing to be destroyed etc just felt so rushed. building it up across two seasons would've been muchhh better. but you're right. so many possibilities. I'd have loved a spin off, maybe just focusing on Hedges or like a ten year time jump
I'd have been so sad but season 4 felt like a more natural conclusion. season 5 was just rushed. they needed to conclude so many storylines in a shorter amount of time than they thought.
Ironically the opposite 😅 If you check out the cast interviews where they're in their hip NYC theater actor-look, everyone looks stunning! They scuffed them up and dressed them down to make them look like ordinary nice-looking people, instead of movie-star gorgeous. I thought the craziest transformation would've been "homely & repressed" Alice, but nope, Quentin's actor looked absurdly hot - like someone you'd actually cast as the lead of a show full of pretty people 😂
I think The Magicians is one of the best examples of a property being adapted in a way that is true to the spirit of the original work without being a direct "faithful" adaptation. I think they really nailed being "The Magicians" while still creating something new. The series includes many great moments from the books, but doesn't just rehash the entire story in another format. Don't get me wrong, I love faithful adaptations, particularly because unfaithful ones usually go VERY wrong. This is one of the few examples that went RIGHT in my opinion, they managed to do just enough different and just enough the same and I love it. I'm also not that bothered by them killing off the main character, I don't think the way they ended the series was all that bad either. The last season might not have been the strongest season, but it wasn't as much of a let down as many other shows.
I agree that quentins death killed the show. But not that it was the wrong descision. His death was just beautifully executed and did make sense to the story for me. that song they sang at the campfire? still getting teared up whenever I hear that song in the radio
I don't believe it killed the show. They knew the show was dying so they needed to wrap it up. To get a season after they thought the show was cancelled was a blessing for the fans even though it show could have ended in season 4.
Agreed. I'm on my second or third rewatch of the series, and just got past that episode. Hale Appleman is incredible, and I'm appalled that he's not been cast in more productions.
Like HBO at the time, they pulled most of the cast from the NY Metro / Broadway theater scene. All the older cast members are also in other TV & movies, but the main younger cast likely went back to their usual stage work.
I just finished a complete re-watch of the series, and now I feel I understand both the storyline and the characters much better. I was not sure I liked any of the characters at first, and found the overarching story to be pretty convoluted. But watching the series without the months and years between seasons helped a lot. I now think it is a very good story, and I love how all the characters grew and evolved. Well done!
That's the thing. One of the complaints about the show by many people was that the main characters weren't all that likeable. They're NOT meant to be likeable. Magic comes from pain so they're often all a bit broken in some way than can manifest in a way that they are not people you would normally want to be besties with. For example Quentin tends towards being unhappy and sullen with a wannabe nice guy main character syndrome. Alice is socially awkward and often comes across as haughty and cold. Penny just comes across as an angry AH much of the time. Margo is the privilaged pretty girl who comes across as catty, over competitive and shallow. Elliot can be defensive, sarcastic and underneath that seems often seems depressive, insecure and dependent. Anyway, you get the picture. They do evolve to become characters you may decide to like and the viewer learns more about them and why they are behaving as they do which gives the background to understand them, but on episode 1 you're not meant to think they're a great bunch of people that would be fun to hang out with. They're meant to be more complicated characters that are played off against the concept that people who are happy and fulfilled do not tend to be the ones capable of learning magic.
Quinton dying was the most interesting thing his character did the entire series. And the end of season 5 seemed like a natural place to end the story.
@@CortexNewsService TBF, the writers had, deliberately or not, made the role more and more boring for him to play - and the official press release at the time say the producers had decided by the end of season 3 he would die during season 4, and "had a meeting" with him and they "all agreed" to him leaving. I even remember at the time reading an interview with one of the producers saying he needed to go because the Magicians was about subverting fantasy tropes, and having a white male protagonist is the biggest fantasy trope. So yeah, in all likelihood he was fridged, or at least told what was going to happen so he could start making other plans. It was a great ending for the character though, regardless.
@@Beer_Dad1975 agree with all of this. They could have done more with the character but chose not to. The scene of everyone saying goodbye to him felt real and fitting in a way despite the BS done with the character.
My friend and I were freaking obsessed with this show! She'd read the books and I remember when she first told me about it, saying, "Imagine Harry Potter except the students are us when we were undergrads and there's sex, drugs, gods, and even more death." The most painful thing for us was having to wait so long between seasons, especially since new episodes would air on SyFy and neither of us had cable. She eventually lost interest after season 3, but I stayed with it until the very end. Killing Q was the worst mistake ever. He was the heart of the show, and it just felt like an edge-lord thing to do by killing the main character. That said, the episode where Q dies introduced me to one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs I've ever heard in my life, "Cruel World" by Active Child. That song was so perfect for that scene; heartachingly melancholic yet full of hope and sacrificial love.
Like a lot of shows, including Supernatural, the story became both more convoluted and repeated itself. Every time they solved a problem, a new, bigger problem showed up. Also, when you bring in ‘multiple universes’ , there isn’t much more you can do with the story. Marvel has this issue now as well. Every issue gets solved just to have another big bad come up.
@@satsubatsu347 Civil War and Winter Soldier shows you don't have to keep going for BIGGER baddies or world ending for a good sequel. Unfortunately Marvel fell into the Michael Bay mindset.
Omg yes! I'm STILL upset that it got cancelled after only 2 seasons. I loved both it and Killjoys, but I think I liked Dark Matter better, and it got cancelled while Killjoys got to run for 5 seasons and (mostly) wrap up the story.
I was sick from covid when I discovered this show. I quickly went through the series and fell absolutely in love with it!! If people haven't watched it, they definitely should!!
No reference to the musical numbers? Those were a highlight of the series. But I have to agree with your overall take. No, I don't think it should come back. I loved it, but it ran its course.
but but but what if they had the same writers and they did start a new world a the end ...Historically yes such reboots rarely equal or surpass the original but i need more. :)
Best friendships on the show are: 1. Eliot and Margo 2. Quentin and Julia 3. Julia and Kady I love Eliot and Margo characters, followed by Zelda. I will defend Zelda till the day I die😂
Zelda was such a masterful magician. She was almost too OP. And she really didn't look it, especially the way she walked swinging her arms like that. She looked like a lightweight. Wrong!
Zelda… unironically formed a MAJOR portion of my sexual attraction. Like that is an archetype of woman that I will do ANYTHING for 😂😂. But as a character, AGREED! I would move mountains for Zelda
My absolute favorite series. I loved the trilogy and almost freaked out when I heard about the show when it was casting. Thank god it just came out perfect, IMO. The ending could have been different but I love them both so much.
While Quentin's death may have contributed to ending the show, I found it very meaningful and a logical conclusion of his arc. Also, speaking as someone who considers The Magicians to be his no. 1 favourite show of all times (sorry Buffy, your reign was long and well-deserved), I much prefer it running for four perfect and one very good season as opposed to it overstaying it's welcome, becoming watered-down and thus tainting it's legacy.
Q's funeral was one of the best scenes in the show, period. I think it also made it possible for other characters to fulfill their fates without worrying about leaving him behind. I don't think Alice would have been ok as the new librarian if Q was still in the world. Elliot may have never let himself be open to love again if Q was still a possibility. The conversation Q has with Penny at his funeral (asking if he deep down wanted to die & that's why he sacrifices himself, etc.) made it feel to me like this was always an intended outcome the show had been working towards since season 1. It also gave so much more meaning and reason for Q's ability being able to fix small broken things. I'm never happy when a character I love is written off a show but in this case it felt right, noble, purposeful and necessary for the other characters to fulfill their destiny too.
I found The Magicians in Season 2 then went back and watched Season 1. I found that I had to watch an episode 3 times - once to just go with the flow, once to stop and analyze the motives and actions of the characters, and once to just revel in the complexity of the characters, story, and sets.
Can be frustrating at times when you realize you got deep into a storyline and didn't notice subtle details BUT I believe it is truly one of the best reasons to have a great time rewatching.
This show was one of my favorite shows, I don't agree that it was too complicated I think it did what a lot of shows used to and nod to other popular or niche references.
1:25 I never read the books either but I LOVED THE SHOW !!!!! I miss it ❤ My all time FAVORITE EPISODE is the one where the sing Pressure by David Bowie and Freddie Mercury… My gosh how many times I played it over and over lmaoooo 😂❤❤❤❤
I _really_ hate the way J.M. Barrie has been unjustly villainised due to viewing the post through a present lens. There is NO evidence that he ever abused those children. In fact, there's more evidence that he was asexual rather than a predator, and just related to children more than adults.
@smashy_smasherton He spent a lot of time with the children, so, over time, people have started making allegations. However, there's absolutely no evidence from that time that even alludes to anything untoward happening. A lot of the people who subscribe to this notion, liken him to Michael Jackson (what you believe those allegations of not is a different can of worms), but the situations and relationships are _completely_ different. He was just an awkward guy that related more to children than adults, and used them as inspiration for his stories. Your conclusion has always been my supposition of the situation.
I love the show. A very adult take on the magical academy and magical realm genres. Becoming king of fairy land isn't the end of the story. Now you need to solve famines and settle border disputes. Then I read the first book... Well it is a very accurate portrayal of what would happen to bratty privileged college students if you gave them magic and set them loose on a world that couldn't tell them no. Parties, drugs, self-sabotage, and zero accountability.
I loved this show. I need to rewatch it. It was dark and dramatic, but also lighthearted and quite funny at the same time. Great complex characters and storylines. I can see how it might've been difficult for some casual viewers to follow, but the world-building was great in my opinion, and I particularly liked how they developed the magic system and hand movements. I found it a little odd at first, but the way they broke it down into mathematics made it feel more "real" if that makes sense, which I thought was super cool. It was also nice to see how free and open they were with sexuality, as well as love in general amongst the characters, (both romantic and platonic). Margot and Elliot's dynamic was fantastic, and the Quentin/Elliot episode was so sweet but sad.
I absolutely adore The Magicians. All the reasons it didn't last past season 5 are what set it above so many other magic school shows. I haven't read the books but I really should correct that.
I love this series. It really does carry a lot of psychological undertones, but it's still a great series. I would love to get the books and read them.
I thought it was a good choice to kill off Quinton and I do feel his story was done and before they killed him we got to see Evil Quinton which was cool. I like that Quinton was the shown as the main character but ends up dead but the real main character was his best friend and he died so his friends he loved can live.
The books were amazing, I do a re-read of the trilogy every couple of years. It’s a fun story to revisit. As for the show I did enjoy it. After Q got killed off (even knowing it was coming bc the actor was leaving) I couldn’t do it. For me personally the story doesn’t work without him. It wasn’t that I wasn’t interested in the other characters, I absolutely love them (even if the show did my girl Alice EXTREMELY dirty…) I feel like the writing just went south. I can’t even do a real rewatch of the show bc I just cannot watch his last season. The first few seasons were really great, especially the first season. It’s a shame though, I wish more people knew about the books & the show. I was pleasantly surprised to see this video up. I like the fact Magic isn’t just about saying the right words & pointing a wand. It’s a WHOLE freaking process, I think it’s cool they have to physically use their hands to create the spell, it’s something you have to practice, work on constantly to get just right. Don’t even get me started about Circumstances & the position of the moon at any given time. The breakdown is INSANE! It gave me an appreciation for how hard they have to work, even ones like Alice where they make it look easy. She busted her ass to be as OP as she is (unfortunately not so much in the show, but she’s a complete bad ass in the books)
All the comments that he was killed for being a white male really bothered me, because he was the main character! I just didn’t understand how they thought it would make the show better and more socially conscious!?! What? It’s about guys love of magic and the world he has always loved. He found it! Just imagine... 😊
@@HBADGERBRADhe wanted to leave the show. That is why they killed him off. I don't understand all the discussion on writer motivations. What were the writers supposed to do? It had nothing to do with the story. It was just an actor who wanted out of the show.
What i hate most about the end is that Q had depression and suicidal thoughts then they made his death essentially a suicide and tried to make it seem like the right decision
Yeah, they didn't do a good job of distinguishing suicide vs sacrifice. I mean, they even have him straight up ask "Did I save my friends, or did I finally just find a way to successfully kill myself?" It was the wrong message to attach to his death, especially when so many people identify with him and his mental health struggles. Most people I know who stopped watching after season 4 specifically cited they were pissed about how they handled Quentin's death.
@LittleHobbit13 Been some yrs, but I think they made the distinction through the series itself. Quentin's whole POV changed from thinking primarily of himself, and thinking that the world was better off without him (and he without the world), to thinking and giving everything for his friends, and by extension, the world. He went from having a warped sense of his place in the world, and depressed that he lacked a place in other's hearts, to playing a pivotal role on a grand scale and in all those intimate emotional ones. Even if he didn't completely understand, we the audience definitely should have by the end.
@@mandisaw I don't know that making a suicide prone character a martyr when there are stakes is any better than when a suicidal character kills themselves when there aren't any stakes. In contrast: It would be like the Joker wanting to destroy a city but finds himself in a position wherein there is no city to destroy. So he sets aside his dreams of habitation destruction and refocuses it on building a city. Through hard work and effort he creates a thriving safe and beauteous metropolis. He promptly destroys it when discovering the city endangers the common vole... Brilliant!
You jinxed us! It was gonna be there for all eternity and now it’s leaving 😭. Thanks though this vid got me rewatching them for the first time in half a decade. Love the show
@@zimriel season 3 is definitely worth it, same with season 4. I would watch season 5 if you don't think too hard, because the characters and acting are fine. You get one more run with the lovable characters
When I tell people about this series I explain simply as, "Think of it as Harry Potter and Narnia, but make it for adults, and add sex, drugs, and rock and roll." Lol! In the books, Lev goes more into detail how magic works. And as a practicing Pagan/Witch, I can honestly say that I feel like he did some real world research, because we take into consideration the time of day, location of the nearest body of water, moon phase, etc., etc. And in the books, all of these details are explained. As for Tutting, while it is fanciful in the show, some practitioners actually do hand gestures while performing rituals and spell work, so it isn't something just made up for the books/show. I thought it was awesome that Lev incorporated these details into his world and it made me fall in love with the series so much more.
I have an entire tattoo sleeve dedicated to the books/show. This was an amazing series. I loved how the show gave the smaller characters importance and you walked away loving them as much as you did Quentin. I'm glad I have the series on Blu-Ray as it is my go to comfort rewatch show. So sad to see it leave Netflix.
I agree that killing off Quentin killed the series. It was the end for me. You should read the books! If you loved the show and are sad that it is over, then read the books.
We absolutely loved The Magicians! I cant even really pick a favorite. Each actor was perfect for their roll, except Julia. She always looked high to me and/or like she was crying lol. One of my favorite lines was from Penny when he called his hands "stuff touchers" we use that term often lol. Quentin's death was the downfall of the show unfortunately and I was holding out hope that they would bring him back somehow. Now that I've seen this video, I need to watch this show again.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer did it first. She was in a coma. She woke up and an alternate world where she was not the vampire slayer. Somewhere I would think, but still, it's the same thing. I think. I don't know. I really think it's really close to being the same thing.
Season 5 seemed like it was rushed. Netflix tried to cut it at season 4, and they had planned on at least 6 seasons. That meant they had to tie everything up in the story in only one season instead of two. The last season had Amazon picking it up for them.
Awesome job summarizing this series! I absolutely love The Magicians! I would never miss an episode. But, yes it did get confusing with the added villain’s and story plots. Plus, killing off Quentin?! What were they thinking?! His character was the heart of the whole story. I kept waiting for a magical return of his character(it is a magical world after all) and nothing! I felt so let down by the series producers and writer’s. I would still recommend this series to anyone.
I really loved the death of Quentin. I think the fact that he died before they could explore all those extra parts of his character was great cuz it kind of showed that death doesn’t care about any of the things that could’ve been. I will always love this show and how there were no holds barred on what could happen
Great show. Reminded me of Guy Gavriel Kay’s “The Summer Tree” books - college students get transported to magical, warring kingdom. The cast was hilarious and attractive. Plot was adult, scandalous, complex (what do you expect from magicians), and the writing and banter was better than “Buffy..”. I was really bummed it ended, I really wanted Julia’s arc and the kingdom’s fate to play out. It should become a Netflix series. Netflix is the perfect place for it.
Best depiction of magic ever. History, Characters, motivations among gods and God killing beings, time travel, and the biggest lesson of magic. Not everything is solved by magic
I love how the story is set up in the way that you don't feel like the main characters are the chosen ones. Yes they are above an ordinary human who doesn't know magic, but when you compared them to the magical creatures and other magicians, they aren't particularly special. And whenever I think about it I am always brought to the scene when Quentin learns that his specialty is minor mending. It inspires me because the main characters are just ordinary people to some degree, but even for not being special at all, they have had a huge impact on the world.
The complexity of the show was what I loved about it. Julia was my favorite. Quinton would appear in spirit. I wasnt as upset about his death because i was already acclimated to A Game of Thrones vibe.
I wish the show would have five more seasons but after a time skip where all the actors would be around their actual ages this time. They can also bring back Quinton by showing us what happens when you step through the underworld door. They can even make the majority of season 6 about him while splashing in bits and pieces of what's going on with everyone else make up for him not being in season 5.
TV and movie adaptations are never like the books. I’ve never read the books myself watched the show. Loved the show. And I lost the ability to watch the show at some point think it was just after the whole rebellion in the magic kingdom, the guy that teleports he got stuck in the magic library. I was at the end of that ducked out and I didn’t get to see how it all ended.
I strongly disagree with Quentin’s death being a fridge. Fridging is a trope, not the actual cause of a characters death. You’re conflating the two. In this case, Q was not fridged because his death served a purpose. It was set up extremely early in the season and previous seasons involving the mirror world, there was proper foreshadowing. Being fridged requires the character’s death to only serve a single purpose: as motivation for other characters. Q didn’t do that. He saved his friends and the WORLD in the ultimate sacrifice and died doing what he always did. The core of his legacy. Just a little minor mending. That is NOT fridging. And the only reason it’s a trope is because so many popular characters in comics and film have their entire families murdered and it is what makes them the main character. Not the main character being killed of for some emotional rugpull for supporting characters. Take a look at Batman’s parents. Uncle Ben. The punisher’s entire bloodline. Q’s death is, imo, one of the most beautiful and powerful ways to send off a beloved character when the actor is ready to move on to other projects. I think it speaks volumes about the audience when half of them leave because the one conventionally attractive white guy gets a really good death scene and follow up in the afterlife. Especially in a show that gives us clear rules and expectations about death and the underworld, and how it’s a temporary stop before the afterlife. To explore that with a beloved character after their greatest moment in life is quite interesting, to me at least.
Serah Gamble's decision to invest an entire emotion-laden storyline to the love between Eliott and Q, just to drop it at the very end to go back to the hetero romance between Q and Alice basically ten seconds before he offs himself was one of the most disgusting rug pulls I had ever witnessed on tv. Stopped watching after that.
Quentin was _not_ fridged. Please don't use that term incorrectly. It dilutes its utility. Quentin's death was deeply important to the arc of his own character, the underlying themes of the show, and overall plot. A character that is fridged is one that exists solely to die for the benefit of another character's development. That does not apply here, even a little bit.
As much as I'd love to see more of the characters, all the characters in the end did find what they needed. To bring it back would not make sense. I loved that the characters were all deeply flawed individuals.
The hand gestures were my least favorite thing about the show. They just looked dorky outside the context of dancing. I much prefer the more fluid hand movements that Agatha Harkness uses in the MCU. Something like that would have been more visually pleasing.
The whole point is that magic was more technical. It was a field of study to be learned and mastered, not just something to feel your way around. I thought the hand gestures were awesome *and* visually pleasing.
I felt like it was another way to nod to modern gay culture, esp in NYC, which a lot of the show riffs on. Wizard duels & demos felt like watching voguing 😅Haven't caught the WandaVision spinoff yet to compare tho.
@ I see that now. I just enjoy the more graceful and fluid hand gestures that were created for Agatha. I also like how she’s used them for so many years that the gestures have become part of how she moves in general. It’s a great show, even if you’re not into the whole MCU thing, which I’m not so much anymore. I still absolutely LOVE The Magicians. I’ve watched the entire series about 6 times now.
Wow nice work I think this is the 1st time seeing this channel going to look about and see what els u have . I loved this show and would like to see more of it
Despite its faults, I will always immensely value this show for how unapologetically bold they decided to be with their choices. Not enough people are willing to create tv that genuinely stands out from the crowd.
Quentin's death really struck me on a emotional level. It's one of the first series that really made me 'cry' about a character death. Thought that episode on itself was a masterpiece, I felt like the series went downhill after his death. It's a shame really, this is probably my all time favorite series.
we are currently re-watching this series, have read the books, the Characters are so complex interesting, nothing is similar to anything else Watch this series and keep rewatching
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UPDATE!! So the show is no longer on Netflix. Bummer.
Actually Netflix announced its leaving soon
I agree with you... and they also alienated him from many elements of the storyline as the seasons moved on. You want your favorite characters that you invest emotionally in, or what's the point of the series. Which is hell to do and keep everyone coming back. They should have gone and done spin-offs. Like star trek, it would allowed for the older show to fade away. And newer ideas to flourish. where the 1st season is introduction to the worlds situation, New characters and previous series guests and so on. They looked to make something as integrately entwined as the wheel of time series and that's hell on tv.
Yeah, @CerealMilkDVD I noticed that when I started rewatching the series a week or so ago. It's leaving mid January, so I've been trying to finish before it leaves. Also, when it does leave I hope it becomes available somewhere else.
@@seanfalkenburg3434 yeah I was a little confused after I finish watching Joe blo's video that he said he doesn't think it's ever leaving and I'm sitting there like if you did the research on this you would have known that Netflix is taking it off the streaming site
@@CerealMilkDVDso the videos are written ahead of time. While I was editing the video and literally uploading it to check for copyright I noticed it was labeled as leaving soon which I missed. So either I could rewrite the line, send it to Jesse to re-record the line which would take a day since he is doing his own show and life obligation. Get it back edit the video and upload it in time to meet the schedule or I could leave it as is and let everyone in the comment educate each other over something (no offense) so minuscule.
Too complex?!? What you mean is, it was one of a vanishingly small number of shows this century that didn't completely insult its viewers' intelligence.
Too complex to bring in new viewers without them being lost. Ultimately, I think this show failed because of the TV format. New viewers could not just jump in and so, as they lost viewers, they were not gaining new ones to replace them or grow their audience. This show would have greatly benefited to the streaming format and would probably still be going if it started as a streaming show since new people could watch from the start.
@@richetoku Outside of procedural dramas and reality shows, all tv shows have a format that would leave a new viewer lost if they just jumped in on a random episode of a random season. That's not complexity. That's just how narratives work. Also, while the show aired on SyFy, it was streaming on Netflix.
THIS I could do a TED talk on this... I haaaaate when they chew it up for viewers like we're dumb
Really? This show is what we needed at the time.
I saw this comment at the top before watching, so had it in mind still when OP was discussing. I think the point was that this show was not a streaming original, so in order to gain new watchers after the first season, viewers would be asked to jump in to a story that really built upon past events more than some. I don't think it was meant to be critical of the writers so much as just to explain why viewers who stopped watching weren't being replaced at the same rate. Like, compare with Doctor Who, which has constant callbacks, but they are never central to understanding the current episode.
"I am the hero of this goddamned story, Ember! Remember? And the hero gets the reward!”
“No, Quentin,” the Ram said.
“The hero pays the price.”
- The Magician King
YES! I love this book so much I just wish that line was in the series.
@@IAmMightyMike It isn't said, but it definitely played out that way in the end.
"has been on Netflix for years and I don't see it leaving anytime soon." Video released a day after Netflix announced they are dropping it mid January. Woof.
I cursed it 😢
Omg, nooooooo
Gonna have to rewatch it before it goes… also cancel my Netflix subscription for removing great things.
Eh, just means its jumping to another streamer. You wait long enough, everything ends up on another platform. Hell, there are big HBO shows on Disney+ right now that I'd never would have believed MAX would let air anywhere else.
New arrival to Tubi?
I really got addicted to the magicians. Such a weird tv series.
You mean "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" for grad students?
It had the same feel as True Blood. You never knew where the story would go.
@@Philbert-s2cfunny because my favorite reference they made was about Buffy the vampire show about kids who appear or grow up fast😂
I love the hand tutting being used for spell casting
i swear this show changed my life
Peaches and Plums mf’ers, The Magicians was absolutely magical. I miss it so much
Spent the $ on my Amazon acct and bought the series. Best coin I’ve spent, rewatch once a year.😊
I cried so hard from that episode!
So damn boring and predictable I couldn't make it past the first few episodes I bailed after seeing the totally unnecessary sex in the air scene.
@MavenWalsh hey look the trolls are hungry again...
@@MavenWalsh there’s literally nothing like that again in the entire series.
I loved that same scene so much between Eliott and Margo. It was such an epic depiction of how best friends function.
Margot and Elliott on top fr
I loved that not only could magic not cure cancer, but there was a theory that cancer WAS MAGICAL in nature. Magic went away, so Quinton's cancer went into full remission. Magic comes back, and the cancer returns with a vengeance.
Quinine dad had cancer if remember correctly?
@@coffeebean_tamer Yes his dad.
And the good luck day really didn't help either.
He never had cancer 😅
@jimenez2403 it was a brain tumor yes
@coffeebean_tamer no it was his dad.... rewatch the series.
basically if you have the patience just watch it start to finish. it's quite beautiful and human. make your own decision on season 5. it had to wrap up a lot in one season instead of two but overall the general premise of magic existing in our morally questionable world is so engaging and intriguing
The way I see it, at the end of S5 the 4 heroes on Fillory were basically starting over. They were like the new Ember and Umber of the place.
So many possibilities.
I wish they'd ended it after season 4 tbh. Season 5 was awful, objectively speaking.
but that whole storyline about Fillory needing to be destroyed etc just felt so rushed. building it up across two seasons would've been muchhh better. but you're right. so many possibilities. I'd have loved a spin off, maybe just focusing on Hedges or like a ten year time jump
I'd have been so sad but season 4 felt like a more natural conclusion. season 5 was just rushed. they needed to conclude so many storylines in a shorter amount of time than they thought.
@Natalie-pn3fi id love a spin off abt the sisters tht saved the world back in the past
The costume and makeup department making every single actor in that show look gorgeous might also have been a reason for its popularity...
Ironically the opposite 😅 If you check out the cast interviews where they're in their hip NYC theater actor-look, everyone looks stunning! They scuffed them up and dressed them down to make them look like ordinary nice-looking people, instead of movie-star gorgeous.
I thought the craziest transformation would've been "homely & repressed" Alice, but nope, Quentin's actor looked absurdly hot - like someone you'd actually cast as the lead of a show full of pretty people 😂
Alice dresses like a child.. She seems like she's wearing stuff from years ago that she's outgrown..
It's all about Stella Maeve.
I think The Magicians is one of the best examples of a property being adapted in a way that is true to the spirit of the original work without being a direct "faithful" adaptation. I think they really nailed being "The Magicians" while still creating something new. The series includes many great moments from the books, but doesn't just rehash the entire story in another format. Don't get me wrong, I love faithful adaptations, particularly because unfaithful ones usually go VERY wrong. This is one of the few examples that went RIGHT in my opinion, they managed to do just enough different and just enough the same and I love it. I'm also not that bothered by them killing off the main character, I don't think the way they ended the series was all that bad either. The last season might not have been the strongest season, but it wasn't as much of a let down as many other shows.
I agree that quentins death killed the show. But not that it was the wrong descision. His death was just beautifully executed and did make sense to the story for me. that song they sang at the campfire? still getting teared up whenever I hear that song in the radio
I rewatch the scene all the time. My favorite version of Take on Me.
Same. I definitely agree
Same. Also the song they played during his death. Cruel World by Active Child. It’s a banger.
I don't believe it killed the show. They knew the show was dying so they needed to wrap it up. To get a season after they thought the show was cancelled was a blessing for the fans even though it show could have ended in season 4.
Hate to say it but out of the cast Quinton by the end was the worse one
at first, I read the title as "WTF happened to magicians" I understood like magicians in general, and I was like" ya, what DID happen to magicians?" 🤔
lol, but you might have a point, where are the darren browns, dynamo, chris angel
😐
@@patsonzgambo9672 the internet made it too easy to look up their secrets, destroyed the mystique, which destroyed the genre of entertainment.
You could say they just disappeared
You could say they just disappeared
How actor playing Elliot is not a movie star, I can't understand. The greatest episode was one where Earth kept being destroyed by the Moon. 😀
Agreed. I'm on my second or third rewatch of the series, and just got past that episode. Hale Appleman is incredible, and I'm appalled that he's not been cast in more productions.
Ever seen the film teeth?
That one is AMAZING.
Margot is so hot too
Like HBO at the time, they pulled most of the cast from the NY Metro / Broadway theater scene. All the older cast members are also in other TV & movies, but the main younger cast likely went back to their usual stage work.
I just finished a complete re-watch of the series, and now I feel I understand both the storyline and the characters much better. I was not sure I liked any of the characters at first, and found the overarching story to be pretty convoluted. But watching the series without the months and years between seasons helped a lot. I now think it is a very good story, and I love how all the characters grew and evolved. Well done!
Only character I actually liked was Penny.
That's the thing. One of the complaints about the show by many people was that the main characters weren't all that likeable. They're NOT meant to be likeable. Magic comes from pain so they're often all a bit broken in some way than can manifest in a way that they are not people you would normally want to be besties with. For example Quentin tends towards being unhappy and sullen with a wannabe nice guy main character syndrome. Alice is socially awkward and often comes across as haughty and cold. Penny just comes across as an angry AH much of the time. Margo is the privilaged pretty girl who comes across as catty, over competitive and shallow. Elliot can be defensive, sarcastic and underneath that seems often seems depressive, insecure and dependent. Anyway, you get the picture. They do evolve to become characters you may decide to like and the viewer learns more about them and why they are behaving as they do which gives the background to understand them, but on episode 1 you're not meant to think they're a great bunch of people that would be fun to hang out with. They're meant to be more complicated characters that are played off against the concept that people who are happy and fulfilled do not tend to be the ones capable of learning magic.
@ashenlion805 i couldn't stand tht motherfuqr but he grew on me😂😂
Quinton dying was the most interesting thing his character did the entire series. And the end of season 5 seemed like a natural place to end the story.
Ditto
Yes. And leaving the show was Ralph's choice as well. He wasn't fridged. The character's death had a long lasting impact
@@CortexNewsService TBF, the writers had, deliberately or not, made the role more and more boring for him to play - and the official press release at the time say the producers had decided by the end of season 3 he would die during season 4, and "had a meeting" with him and they "all agreed" to him leaving. I even remember at the time reading an interview with one of the producers saying he needed to go because the Magicians was about subverting fantasy tropes, and having a white male protagonist is the biggest fantasy trope. So yeah, in all likelihood he was fridged, or at least told what was going to happen so he could start making other plans. It was a great ending for the character though, regardless.
@@Beer_Dad1975 agree with all of this. They could have done more with the character but chose not to. The scene of everyone saying goodbye to him felt real and fitting in a way despite the BS done with the character.
Total fucking truth. He finally actually did something.
My friend and I were freaking obsessed with this show! She'd read the books and I remember when she first told me about it, saying, "Imagine Harry Potter except the students are us when we were undergrads and there's sex, drugs, gods, and even more death." The most painful thing for us was having to wait so long between seasons, especially since new episodes would air on SyFy and neither of us had cable. She eventually lost interest after season 3, but I stayed with it until the very end.
Killing Q was the worst mistake ever. He was the heart of the show, and it just felt like an edge-lord thing to do by killing the main character. That said, the episode where Q dies introduced me to one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs I've ever heard in my life, "Cruel World" by Active Child. That song was so perfect for that scene; heartachingly melancholic yet full of hope and sacrificial love.
Love that song
Harry Potter meets Narnia meets some very recreational drugs.
@@pendelschabe It's one of those songs that just seeps into you as you listen to it.
Love active child
I loved the books too and equally loved the show. Lev's newest book is awesome too. Its a quest from the "side" characters from Arthurian legend.
Like a lot of shows, including Supernatural, the story became both more convoluted and repeated itself. Every time they solved a problem, a new, bigger problem showed up. Also, when you bring in ‘multiple universes’ , there isn’t much more you can do with the story. Marvel has this issue now as well. Every issue gets solved just to have another big bad come up.
"Every time they solved a problem a new bigger problem showed up" Isn't that how plots work?
@@iwontdowhatyoutellme3466 Yes but when the first problem was the destruction of reality you kind of run out of reasonable options fast.
@@satsubatsu347 Civil War and Winter Soldier shows you don't have to keep going for BIGGER baddies or world ending for a good sequel. Unfortunately Marvel fell into the Michael Bay mindset.
Please do Dark Matter 2015, I feel like not enough people know how special that show was
✋🏾
Omg yes! I'm STILL upset that it got cancelled after only 2 seasons. I loved both it and Killjoys, but I think I liked Dark Matter better, and it got cancelled while Killjoys got to run for 5 seasons and (mostly) wrap up the story.
I was sick from covid when I discovered this show. I quickly went through the series and fell absolutely in love with it!! If people haven't watched it, they definitely should!!
No reference to the musical numbers? Those were a highlight of the series. But I have to agree with your overall take. No, I don't think it should come back. I loved it, but it ran its course.
I tried but I got copyright flagged and without being able to play the clips just felt kind of pointless
but but but what if they had the same writers and they did start a new world a the end ...Historically yes such reboots rarely equal or surpass the original but i need more. :)
It had one of the best musical episodes I've seen: didn't feel forced or cringe like in other series.
Best friendships on the show are:
1. Eliot and Margo
2. Quentin and Julia
3. Julia and Kady
I love Eliot and Margo characters, followed by Zelda. I will defend Zelda till the day I die😂
Zelda was such a masterful magician. She was almost too OP.
And she really didn't look it, especially the way she walked swinging her arms like that. She looked like a lightweight. Wrong!
Elliot and Margo are so fantastic
Zelda… unironically formed a MAJOR portion of my sexual attraction. Like that is an archetype of woman that I will do ANYTHING for 😂😂.
But as a character, AGREED! I would move mountains for Zelda
My absolute favorite series. I loved the trilogy and almost freaked out when I heard about the show when it was casting. Thank god it just came out perfect, IMO. The ending could have been different but I love them both so much.
I cried so much with the scene of Quintin watching as the group sang "take on me" and you could feel Elliotts anguish in his final notes...
While Quentin's death may have contributed to ending the show, I found it very meaningful and a logical conclusion of his arc. Also, speaking as someone who considers The Magicians to be his no. 1 favourite show of all times (sorry Buffy, your reign was long and well-deserved), I much prefer it running for four perfect and one very good season as opposed to it overstaying it's welcome, becoming watered-down and thus tainting it's legacy.
Q's funeral was one of the best scenes in the show, period. I think it also made it possible for other characters to fulfill their fates without worrying about leaving him behind. I don't think Alice would have been ok as the new librarian if Q was still in the world. Elliot may have never let himself be open to love again if Q was still a possibility. The conversation Q has with Penny at his funeral (asking if he deep down wanted to die & that's why he sacrifices himself, etc.) made it feel to me like this was always an intended outcome the show had been working towards since season 1. It also gave so much more meaning and reason for Q's ability being able to fix small broken things. I'm never happy when a character I love is written off a show but in this case it felt right, noble, purposeful and necessary for the other characters to fulfill their destiny too.
I found The Magicians in Season 2 then went back and watched Season 1. I found that I had to watch an episode 3 times - once to just go with the flow, once to stop and analyze the motives and actions of the characters, and once to just revel in the complexity of the characters, story, and sets.
Can be frustrating at times when you realize you got deep into a storyline and didn't notice subtle details BUT
I believe it is truly one of the best reasons to have a great time rewatching.
You posted this 3 days ago! Its schedule to leave netflix January 14. 23:52
Lmfao that’s wild work😂😂😂
On my birthday😢
@kiidkif2009 big up yuhself!
@@drefinn8821 respect mi G
@@drefinn8821 up bro
It was conceived, produced, and was fabulous for five years. That's what happened.
I never got myself to go back into the Magicians' world when season 5 started. I guess half the audience decided the same thing.
This show was one of my favorite shows, I don't agree that it was too complicated I think it did what a lot of shows used to and nod to other popular or niche references.
1:25 I never read the books either but I LOVED THE SHOW !!!!! I miss it ❤ My all time FAVORITE EPISODE is the one where the sing Pressure by David Bowie and Freddie Mercury… My gosh how many times I played it over and over lmaoooo 😂❤❤❤❤
I replay all the musical episodes (except the first one with Quentin) that cover of Take on Me by Aha makes me cry every time
@@Arroyo2099 yes the musical episodes are my FAVORITES 😍😘🥰🥰🥰
Elliot and Margot are two of my favorite characters from any show, they nailed em.
I _really_ hate the way J.M. Barrie has been unjustly villainised due to viewing the post through a present lens. There is NO evidence that he ever abused those children. In fact, there's more evidence that he was asexual rather than a predator, and just related to children more than adults.
First time I ever heard of these allegations. Maybe he was just another boy who didn’t want to or couldn’t grow up.
@smashy_smasherton He spent a lot of time with the children, so, over time, people have started making allegations. However, there's absolutely no evidence from that time that even alludes to anything untoward happening. A lot of the people who subscribe to this notion, liken him to Michael Jackson (what you believe those allegations of not is a different can of worms), but the situations and relationships are _completely_ different. He was just an awkward guy that related more to children than adults, and used them as inspiration for his stories. Your conclusion has always been my supposition of the situation.
I love the show. A very adult take on the magical academy and magical realm genres. Becoming king of fairy land isn't the end of the story. Now you need to solve famines and settle border disputes. Then I read the first book... Well it is a very accurate portrayal of what would happen to bratty privileged college students if you gave them magic and set them loose on a world that couldn't tell them no. Parties, drugs, self-sabotage, and zero accountability.
@@cheshiredeimos1874 I'm assuming you meant to post this as your own comment on the video, because it has nothing to do with my comment.
It's trendy now to try to deconstruct historic figures. No doubt the trend will pass eventually.
Just over halfway through watching your series essay and im fully invested in watching the series over again. So, good job to you sir.
I loved this show. I need to rewatch it. It was dark and dramatic, but also lighthearted and quite funny at the same time. Great complex characters and storylines. I can see how it might've been difficult for some casual viewers to follow, but the world-building was great in my opinion, and I particularly liked how they developed the magic system and hand movements. I found it a little odd at first, but the way they broke it down into mathematics made it feel more "real" if that makes sense, which I thought was super cool. It was also nice to see how free and open they were with sexuality, as well as love in general amongst the characters, (both romantic and platonic). Margot and Elliot's dynamic was fantastic, and the Quentin/Elliot episode was so sweet but sad.
I wish I could watch this show for the first time again. One of my favorites.
summer bishil, olivia taylor dudley, jade tailor and stella maeve were the reasons to watch
I absolutely adore The Magicians. All the reasons it didn't last past season 5 are what set it above so many other magic school shows. I haven't read the books but I really should correct that.
A Life in the Day wasn't one of the best episodes of the series. It was _the_ best episode of the series.
Such a great and underrated show. I didn’t appreciate the ending as much as I could’ve, but I still love it.
I love this series. It really does carry a lot of psychological undertones, but it's still a great series. I would love to get the books and read them.
I loved this show There was literally so much to explore. I was super disappointed to see how it just abruptly ended.
I thought it was a good choice to kill off Quinton and I do feel his story was done and before they killed him we got to see Evil Quinton which was cool. I like that Quinton was the shown as the main character but ends up dead but the real main character was his best friend and he died so his friends he loved can live.
This show was an actual work of art. I can’t count how many times I’ve rewatched it 😊
The books were amazing, I do a re-read of the trilogy every couple of years. It’s a fun story to revisit. As for the show I did enjoy it. After Q got killed off (even knowing it was coming bc the actor was leaving) I couldn’t do it. For me personally the story doesn’t work without him. It wasn’t that I wasn’t interested in the other characters, I absolutely love them (even if the show did my girl Alice EXTREMELY dirty…) I feel like the writing just went south. I can’t even do a real rewatch of the show bc I just cannot watch his last season. The first few seasons were really great, especially the first season. It’s a shame though, I wish more people knew about the books & the show. I was pleasantly surprised to see this video up. I like the fact Magic isn’t just about saying the right words & pointing a wand. It’s a WHOLE freaking process, I think it’s cool they have to physically use their hands to create the spell, it’s something you have to practice, work on constantly to get just right. Don’t even get me started about Circumstances & the position of the moon at any given time. The breakdown is INSANE! It gave me an appreciation for how hard they have to work, even ones like Alice where they make it look easy. She busted her ass to be as OP as she is (unfortunately not so much in the show, but she’s a complete bad ass in the books)
Agreed. After Q died I felt like the story was missing something essential. Gonna have to read the books now
All the comments that he was killed for being a white male really bothered me, because he was the main character! I just didn’t understand how they thought it would make the show better and more socially conscious!?! What? It’s about guys love of magic and the world he has always loved. He found it! Just imagine... 😊
@@HBADGERBRADhe wanted to leave the show. That is why they killed him off. I don't understand all the discussion on writer motivations. What were the writers supposed to do? It had nothing to do with the story. It was just an actor who wanted out of the show.
@@kirielbranson4843 That's not true. Jason Ralph didn't want to leave.
It just kept getting more convoluted but the characters never stopped being fun
What i hate most about the end is that Q had depression and suicidal thoughts then they made his death essentially a suicide and tried to make it seem like the right decision
self sacrifice and suicide are not the same thing. related, but not the same.
Yeah, they didn't do a good job of distinguishing suicide vs sacrifice. I mean, they even have him straight up ask "Did I save my friends, or did I finally just find a way to successfully kill myself?" It was the wrong message to attach to his death, especially when so many people identify with him and his mental health struggles. Most people I know who stopped watching after season 4 specifically cited they were pissed about how they handled Quentin's death.
@LittleHobbit13 Been some yrs, but I think they made the distinction through the series itself. Quentin's whole POV changed from thinking primarily of himself, and thinking that the world was better off without him (and he without the world), to thinking and giving everything for his friends, and by extension, the world.
He went from having a warped sense of his place in the world, and depressed that he lacked a place in other's hearts, to playing a pivotal role on a grand scale and in all those intimate emotional ones. Even if he didn't completely understand, we the audience definitely should have by the end.
@@mandisaw I don't know that making a suicide prone character a martyr when there are stakes is any better than when a suicidal character kills themselves when there aren't any stakes.
In contrast: It would be like the Joker wanting to destroy a city but finds himself in a position wherein there is no city to destroy. So he sets aside his dreams of habitation destruction and refocuses it on building a city. Through hard work and effort he creates a thriving safe and beauteous metropolis. He promptly destroys it when discovering the city endangers the common vole... Brilliant!
You jinxed us! It was gonna be there for all eternity and now it’s leaving 😭. Thanks though this vid got me rewatching them for the first time in half a decade. Love the show
Yeah the fifth season of this show was a clusterfuck.
That's one word for it. On top of just being all over the place the heavy handed preaching really reached critical mass.
@@amarhadziabdic6595 that's a shame. I bought the first two seasons on DVD and enjoyed rewatching them. I guess I fell off during season three.
@@zimriel season 3 is definitely worth it, same with season 4. I would watch season 5 if you don't think too hard, because the characters and acting are fine. You get one more run with the lovable characters
"its been on netflix for years and i don't see it going away anytime soon" literally a week ago on the netflix homepage "magicians - leaving soon"
When I tell people about this series I explain simply as, "Think of it as Harry Potter and Narnia, but make it for adults, and add sex, drugs, and rock and roll." Lol! In the books, Lev goes more into detail how magic works. And as a practicing Pagan/Witch, I can honestly say that I feel like he did some real world research, because we take into consideration the time of day, location of the nearest body of water, moon phase, etc., etc. And in the books, all of these details are explained. As for Tutting, while it is fanciful in the show, some practitioners actually do hand gestures while performing rituals and spell work, so it isn't something just made up for the books/show. I thought it was awesome that Lev incorporated these details into his world and it made me fall in love with the series so much more.
The show was like a fever dream. Watching it was like gaming with a headache, it hurt your brain, but you couldn't stop yourself.
It's mind blowing that none of these actors seem to have become A-list yet.
I have an entire tattoo sleeve dedicated to the books/show. This was an amazing series. I loved how the show gave the smaller characters importance and you walked away loving them as much as you did Quentin. I'm glad I have the series on Blu-Ray as it is my go to comfort rewatch show. So sad to see it leave Netflix.
I agree that killing off Quentin killed the series. It was the end for me. You should read the books! If you loved the show and are sad that it is over, then read the books.
Never watched the show but loved the video anyway. Nice job!
We absolutely loved The Magicians! I cant even really pick a favorite. Each actor was perfect for their roll, except Julia. She always looked high to me and/or like she was crying lol. One of my favorite lines was from Penny when he called his hands "stuff touchers" we use that term often lol.
Quentin's death was the downfall of the show unfortunately and I was holding out hope that they would bring him back somehow. Now that I've seen this video, I need to watch this show again.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer did it first. She was in a coma. She woke up and an alternate world where she was not the vampire slayer. Somewhere I would think, but still, it's the same thing. I think. I don't know. I really think it's really close to being the same thing.
Was so disappointed with season 5. You could tell they had no idea where to go with the story after Quentin dying.
You do realize that the show was based on a book series?
@EricHendershott I do know that. It doesn't negate the fact that the show completely fell apart after his death.
@@EricHendershott The character doesn't die in the books though.
Season 5 seemed like it was rushed. Netflix tried to cut it at season 4, and they had planned on at least 6 seasons. That meant they had to tie everything up in the story in only one season instead of two. The last season had Amazon picking it up for them.
@Taricus It was a syfy show, not Netflix. But either way, season 5 was just pointless
This was an amazing breakdown and made me fall in love with it again. Lets watch them all over again!!! Thanks!!
Do .. some goddam MAGIC!!!
Awesome job summarizing this series! I absolutely love The Magicians! I would never miss an episode. But, yes it did get confusing with the added villain’s and story plots. Plus, killing off Quentin?! What were they thinking?! His character was the heart of the whole story. I kept waiting for a magical return of his character(it is a magical world after all) and nothing! I felt so let down by the series producers and writer’s. I would still recommend this series to anyone.
Not the Jesse Shade JoBlo featured video I was hoping for, but I'll enjoy it still.
Well it’s not Jesse per se but still hope you enjoy
@Arroyo2099 I love your Gone But Not Forgotten videos. I was just eager for the Awfully Good Movies Worst of 2024 list.
@ quick tease it’s going be better than last year
I really loved the death of Quentin. I think the fact that he died before they could explore all those extra parts of his character was great cuz it kind of showed that death doesn’t care about any of the things that could’ve been. I will always love this show and how there were no holds barred on what could happen
Great show. Reminded me of Guy Gavriel Kay’s “The Summer Tree” books - college students get transported to magical, warring kingdom. The cast was hilarious and attractive. Plot was adult, scandalous, complex (what do you expect from magicians), and the writing and banter was better than “Buffy..”.
I was really bummed it ended, I really wanted Julia’s arc and the kingdom’s fate to play out. It should become a Netflix series. Netflix is the perfect place for it.
Best depiction of magic ever. History, Characters, motivations among gods and God killing beings, time travel, and the biggest lesson of magic. Not everything is solved by magic
Did Jesse pick up a new mic? Sounds great!
He's a star!
@@JoBloOriginalsNetflix announced its leaving soon after site
@@JoBloOriginals you are aware that you were wrong about the Netflix cuz Netflix is taking it off
I love how the story is set up in the way that you don't feel like the main characters are the chosen ones. Yes they are above an ordinary human who doesn't know magic, but when you compared them to the magical creatures and other magicians, they aren't particularly special. And whenever I think about it I am always brought to the scene when Quentin learns that his specialty is minor mending. It inspires me because the main characters are just ordinary people to some degree, but even for not being special at all, they have had a huge impact on the world.
The complexity of the show was what I loved about it. Julia was my favorite.
Quinton would appear in spirit. I wasnt as upset about his death because i was already acclimated to A Game of Thrones vibe.
I wish the show would have five more seasons but after a time skip where all the actors would be around their actual ages this time. They can also bring back Quinton by showing us what happens when you step through the underworld door. They can even make the majority of season 6 about him while splashing in bits and pieces of what's going on with everyone else make up for him not being in season 5.
Nothing. It's on NETFLIX.
Btw, Hale Appleman (Elliot) was just on S1 of "Black Doves."
That’s not him that’s Ben Wishaw
I was obsessed with this show😍
TV and movie adaptations are never like the books. I’ve never read the books myself watched the show. Loved the show. And I lost the ability to watch the show at some point think it was just after the whole rebellion in the magic kingdom, the guy that teleports he got stuck in the magic library. I was at the end of that ducked out and I didn’t get to see how it all ended.
I loved this show and The Order. Its the jumping the shark so to speak.
I strongly disagree with Quentin’s death being a fridge. Fridging is a trope, not the actual cause of a characters death. You’re conflating the two. In this case, Q was not fridged because his death served a purpose. It was set up extremely early in the season and previous seasons involving the mirror world, there was proper foreshadowing.
Being fridged requires the character’s death to only serve a single purpose: as motivation for other characters. Q didn’t do that. He saved his friends and the WORLD in the ultimate sacrifice and died doing what he always did. The core of his legacy. Just a little minor mending.
That is NOT fridging. And the only reason it’s a trope is because so many popular characters in comics and film have their entire families murdered and it is what makes them the main character. Not the main character being killed of for some emotional rugpull for supporting characters. Take a look at Batman’s parents. Uncle Ben. The punisher’s entire bloodline.
Q’s death is, imo, one of the most beautiful and powerful ways to send off a beloved character when the actor is ready to move on to other projects.
I think it speaks volumes about the audience when half of them leave because the one conventionally attractive white guy gets a really good death scene and follow up in the afterlife. Especially in a show that gives us clear rules and expectations about death and the underworld, and how it’s a temporary stop before the afterlife. To explore that with a beloved character after their greatest moment in life is quite interesting, to me at least.
i started watching the magicians expecting it to be my guilty pleasure show but it ended up being genuinely one of my favorite tv shows ever.
Serah Gamble's decision to invest an entire emotion-laden storyline to the love between Eliott and Q, just to drop it at the very end to go back to the hetero romance between Q and Alice basically ten seconds before he offs himself was one of the most disgusting rug pulls I had ever witnessed on tv. Stopped watching after that.
Loved the clips JB threw in of Urban Theory! Thanks, JB!
Quentin was _not_ fridged. Please don't use that term incorrectly. It dilutes its utility. Quentin's death was deeply important to the arc of his own character, the underlying themes of the show, and overall plot. A character that is fridged is one that exists solely to die for the benefit of another character's development. That does not apply here, even a little bit.
Loved this show ❤️
My wife and I have re watched it multiple times!
Brilliant 👏
As much as I'd love to see more of the characters, all the characters in the end did find what they needed. To bring it back would not make sense. I loved that the characters were all deeply flawed individuals.
Great show! I miss it. One of the shows which didn't insult the viewers intelligence. Totally original and not predictable.
THIS Show just got better & Better & BETTER😍💖💚 Super Loved the last season 💙🩵
I've never really gotten into fantasy type of shows.... Except The Magicians! LOVED IT!!! I was very sad when it ended.
The hand gestures were my least favorite thing about the show. They just looked dorky outside the context of dancing. I much prefer the more fluid hand movements that Agatha Harkness uses in the MCU. Something like that would have been more visually pleasing.
it gave a technical aspect to the magic practice. it was cool
The whole point is that magic was more technical. It was a field of study to be learned and mastered, not just something to feel your way around. I thought the hand gestures were awesome *and* visually pleasing.
@ ok, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for that perspective.
I felt like it was another way to nod to modern gay culture, esp in NYC, which a lot of the show riffs on. Wizard duels & demos felt like watching voguing 😅Haven't caught the WandaVision spinoff yet to compare tho.
@ I see that now. I just enjoy the more graceful and fluid hand gestures that were created for Agatha. I also like how she’s used them for so many years that the gestures have become part of how she moves in general. It’s a great show, even if you’re not into the whole MCU thing, which I’m not so much anymore. I still absolutely LOVE The Magicians. I’ve watched the entire series about 6 times now.
Im obsessed with this show, what a masterpiece ❤
I stopped watching The Magicians when they killed of Quentin.
well, S5 was the weakest season of the show, IMO but I still enjoyed it.
Josh not even being mentioned is a call back to the quest for the seven keys
Wow nice work I think this is the 1st time seeing this channel going to look about and
see what els u have . I loved this show and would like to see more of it
Despite its faults, I will always immensely value this show for how unapologetically bold they decided to be with their choices. Not enough people are willing to create tv that genuinely stands out from the crowd.
“Not going away soon”? Buddy clearly missed the memo as it’s no longer on as of today (Jan 14 2025) 😭
One of my favorite shows... I was not prepared for this show
Quentin's death really struck me on a emotional level. It's one of the first series that really made me 'cry' about a character death. Thought that episode on itself was a masterpiece, I felt like the series went downhill after his death. It's a shame really, this is probably my all time favorite series.
1:57 Is that Bill Cypher?! 😂
5:05 Hold on. Are those Dutch subtitles?!
the magicians just left netflix yesterday, but it's on tubi as if today!
I need to rewatch. I have the complete series but haven’t watched since it went off the air.
I loved this show so much
You jinxed the show on Netflix thanks for that
The best show wish they made more seasons never seen a show like this at all
we are currently re-watching this series, have read the books, the Characters are so complex interesting, nothing is similar to anything else Watch this series and keep rewatching