Magpul .223 / 556 "PMag" M2 vs M3 (Gen2 vs Gen3)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- This review compares the M2 (Gen 2) vs the M3 (Gen 3) PMag from Magpul Industries. Both mags are stripped down and I take a look at the slight differences in both magazines. Both are great magazines however if you're using a European style AR rifle, the M3 (Gen3) PMag would be my preference.
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I'm glad I live in Alabama and can buy 30rn pmags all day!
+Taylor Galbreath Yes lucky you Taylor :)
+Taylor Galbreath way to toss salt in their wound.. If you asked me who the nicest most fantastic people on the planet are I would either say Australians or Finnish. Too bad for Australia their government betrayed them. Hopefully y'all get your rights back sometime soon.
Will will certainly fight trying to get our rights back and continue to enjoy lawful firearm ownership!
Taylor Galbreath same here bro!
For now. If the commies...I mean the socialist (Democrats and the left) have their way we won't be able to buy them anywhere.
A weird thing to do is put the M2 mag and the M3 mag side by side. While holding them with one mag in each hand the one in your right hand will appear noticeably bigger then then one in your left hand. But if you switch hands then the one that was in your left hand will look bigger in your right hand. It’s weird. I’m guessing it has to do with the curve of the mag. Pretty cool little illusion tho.
Magpul makes some of the best rifle products, they are my favorite AR mags. It looks like the gen 3 floor plate has a moisture drain slot.
speaking of moister drain slot i gotta go take a wiz
Good review. Nice to see a gun owner out of Australia.
I didn't think yall over there could have firearms!! Good on you man 👍
It's good to mark your mags, to note which one if you have a malfunction. Helps troubleshoot a failing mag.
The indents are useful for numbering. If you experience a magazine related malfunction, take note of the number and swap in a fresh one. The number helps identify the problematic magazine later on when you have several otherwise identical mags in your dump pouch or range bag. My M2s have been marked on the floor plates, used a soldering iron to make small dimples.
Good point, thanks for mentioning it...
This was pretty helpful mate. Especially with the business we've been talking about.
They are both good mags, but a few differences that people should know about, hence the reason I did the review…
Damn, hope you guys in Australia can get that round count limit BS thrown out of legislation. Nice review by the way!
Thanks, yep, it depends on which State you live in as to what mag restrictions apply to what category of firearm… but funny how the criminals don't adhere to these limits!
Great video. Thank you for this.
Thanks man!!
This was good information
Gday :) Honest precise no BS review as always Cheers :)
Thanks mate...
I recently found this vid, really sad to see this. I hope you get these back one day
You might notice the back of the mags. the gen 2 has more of a V shape notch where the Gen 3 a more square and larger area for feed reliability. Also Gen 3 plastic dust covers won't fit the gen 2 mags because of this shape. Gen 3 mags are closer in design to military metal mags.
Just ordered two gen 3's. First two ever. Don't even have a rifle yet. haha (Ordered a stripped lower with the mags and I have a kit in mind.)
6:24 see how the rear cuts are wedge-like on the gen2 and squared out and open on the gen3? that beveling caused the bolt hold open to protrude further up and cause wear to the bolt, hence the design change.
I know this is old but apparently that was only an issue with the FN-SCAR. I'm no expert, though.
$12 each or $99 for 10 packs in my area
Army surplus aluminum mags run $1-6 and I've got 97 sitting in my locker
Pmags are definitely the bees knee but you can stack the surplus stuff up high
+PranklinMaltese where do you buy the pmags and surplus mags?
+Chance Ke I live outside a military base. Soldiers sell all of their kit at yard sales on base
PranklinMaltese Alright cool. I'm looking for a 10mags for a $100 deal.
In these incredibly uncertain times probably one of the best investments one can make is to buy as many AR and AK magazines as you possibly can and it doesn't really matter if you get functional surplus or low cost functional magazines of aluminum, steel or polymer construction. If Hellary actually gets enough people to buy into her lies REMEMBER what she has PROMISED and that is to institute eventual gun confiscation. First she will probably reinstate the high cap mag ban afterwhich the price of magazines for "evil black rifles" and "evil high capacity handguns" will start the ball rolling probably with some initial "grandfathering" of existing magazines. That will start the explosion of magazine prices so if you pay as much as say $10 for a gen 2 magpul on sale you can easily see them sell for $50 fairly quickly and those prices will with time increase exponentially. Of course keep enough for yourself (and some rebuild kits), but buy enough to keep your firearm owning brothers supplied. Bad times may very well be coming starting if the she devil becomes President in January of 2017. Orwell may have been 34 years late in his vision but it may very well come true faster than one can realize the nightmare. Another good investment is to stock up on inexpensive barebones AR lowers and build kits for both AR and AK type rifles. Also don't forget to stockpile as many high cap popular handgun magazines as you can. With Glocks try to avoid the Korean made ones but DO stockpile on the Magpul aftermarket mags as they are almost as reliable as the factory mags at half or less the price. The Korean mags for Glocks are iffy. Also buy up as many Romanian and even Pro Mag AK drums as you can. I can easily see them selling for more than $500 a piece in a year from now, perhaps more. If you are really well off or have a lot of money to invest buy as many decent AR and AK platform rifles as you possibly can. With the Ak's with few exceptions, avoid Century products and go with at least DDI. Our brothers will need QUALITY firearms. Remember the true purpose of the 2nd Amendment and it was established by the Founding Fathers to protect the citizenry from an out of control Government, one we will most certainly see if the idiotic voters actually pick the proven but not indicted felon called Hillary Clinton. She has already proven that she has no respect for the rule of law nor for the value of the common man. Bad times could be coming friends. PREPARE but first VOTE!!!!
Chance K. It’s been 4 years but gun mag warehouse is the cheapest I’ve seen
There is also differences in the magazine catch slots. Couldn't tell you as to why though. Haha! Great review, everything I wanted to know!
Thanks
Reasoning is specifically for the M855 A1 military cartridge. Allows the round to feed much higher up in the chamber so the metal bullet tip doesn't destroy your barrel extension m4 feed ramps.
@@TerminalM193 That would be the feed lip angle.
@@mmelgoza1983 Yea, somehow I knew it was a different feed angle yet said something else, thanks for correction.
Seems like I read somewhere that the gen 3 were best for the m855a1 round because I think it tilted the cartridge up a little more so the 855a1 round wouldn't eat up your m4 feed ramps.
You missed in important improvement in the M3. If you notice the area directly over the mag catch indent, the M3 has a bit of raised plastic where the M2 does not. This is a VERY important improvement as the mag catch on some ARs WILL NOT hold the mag in place regardless of the adjustment. Yes I have one AR where this is a problem where all others I own are fine. The problem is more with the lower than the mag. On the problematic lower, the mag catch recess is not sufficient.
Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.
They're practically identical yet they charge almost twice the amount for a gen 3 vs a gen 2
I saw just a $2 price difference. Try shopping at Primary Arms
An Australian explaining mags, that's rich lol. Not much good without the guns lol. Jk good vid
sucks they are limited to 10 rounds. They're trying to do the same thing to us in the USA. Only issue is there is approximately 100 million 30 round mags already in circulation.
I bet there's probably WAY more than that.... Here in Maryland it's illegal to purchase, trade or transfer anything over 10rds BUT any capacity magazine is 100% legal to use and carry. Me and the 3 dudes I train with have over 50 magazines each, anywhere from magpul m2&m3, okay brand aluminum 20 & 30rd and duramag stainless steel as well as a few 40rd long boys and a few 60rd drum mags.
I thought firearms were banned in Australia? I'm glad I live in the U.S. More specifically a pro gun state like Nevada. :) I love pmags with the window!
+Donovan Delos Santos Check out my "Australian Gun Laws" video, it'll answer ALOT of your questions ruclips.net/video/x9th0TM0Gss/видео.html
The so called serious violent crime reduction benefits of the ultra-strict gun control laws of Australia and Canada is a bunch of nonsense fed to us in the USA. Although those countries do have gun laws much stricter than our own, they are not completely without guns. We don't have a gun violence problem in the USA, we have a human violence problem. Of course, citing that some groups of people are more prone to violence than others is blasphemy to those wrapped up in certain political ideologies. In order to get around the contradiction, it's just easier for them to blame the guns and direct their cohorts in the media to not report on the failures of strict gun control laws that they put into place in their state.
They are now
I thought Australia banned all firearms?
I just got into the sport of shooting after going to the us and living there for years with a 1022, but you can't get them here. Was going to get a 223 rifle but I'm not sure about reloading
Isn't the Gen3 Pmag developped to improve the compatibility with the original HK416 lower receiver geometry ?
the fact is, Heckler & Koch released the HK416A5 (latest 416 gen), which use the original AR15 lower receiver geometry to insure full compatibility with ....Gen 2 Pmag.
it seems Magpul and H&K should talk before engaging useless "improvement".
It was designed mostly to be compatible with other rifles in general that use AR like magazines like the British service rifle SA80s and FN SCAR Mk. 16/16s. Every PMAG M3 has it labeled what rifles it's compatible with.
Will a gen 2 follower/spring/baseplate thing that has the button to disassemble the mag fit in a gen 3 magazine housing?
Also heard that the gen 3s follower feeds m855a1 without scratching the feed ramps of ARs as much. It’s an exposed steel tip bullet so people were concerned about it. Do you know if this is true?
Correct! The magazine catch geometry as well as the feed lip angle allow for cartridges to feed higher up, allowing the barrel extension m4 feed ramps to be struck higher up where the metal is much stronger. It's still perfectly fine to use your older generation mags for the m855a1 cartridge. You won't notice feed ramp damage unless you run litteraly thousands of m855a1 rounds which is near impossible to do for any citizen.... Hell, Ive sought out m855a1 for purchase for over 5 years now and have only been able to obtain just under 500 rounds, 100 of which was just the bullet that needed to be reloaded into my own brass.
$14.99 each in Las Vegas, Nevada for Gen 2.
What restricts the full size p mag to just 10 shots??? Is there a video review on the full size 10 shot mags???
I haven't reviewed the full size 10 shot mags… I've been told they are basically glued and part of the plastic moulded so if someone tried to convert the mag, they would break it rendering it useless…
Does anyone know if its legal to have a 30rnd magazine on a cat a/b licence in victoria for my remington 7615 ? Just bought one and want a 30 rnd but dont want to get pinched, Thanks
I think alot of people use the little squares to write stuff like .223 or 5.56 or BLK for 300 blackout. I could see that being useful if you've got a few rifles and you only feed one with .223 and one with 5.56. Just for safety reasons or something. I'm from Canada so my knowledge on the AR platform is very limited but I have a crusader arms temp 5.56 which is a ar180b variation. I believe the chamber is .223 wylde? Says 5.56 NATO on the bolt carrier when it's closed but I'm pretty it's the wylde clambering or however you'd put it. Plus to be able to keep track of malfunctions from mags by filling in the dots and as you run through your mag stock pile you could maybe find ones more reliable? I dunno just spit balling here.
I just wish we weren't limited to 5 rounds :( that sucks. We can get p mags up here but you can barely use any of the space.
I didn't know you were into weapons also!!!
They no longer come with the dust cover. You have to buy them separately.
Does anyone know if the Gen2 and the Gen3 base plate detents fit in the same general area? Will the Gen3 magblocks fit into the Gen2 mags?
+Ron Hernandez I'll have to check...
Are they the same size springs?
I only want the Gen 2s because they come in tan and the gen 3s dont yet, but it seems like better quality... which one do you think I should get?
I was in the same boat as you, so I ended up getting both!
Jyst picked up gen3 in tan today 30rd
Best mag for the sig716 go??
Hope you guys get out of the mess you’re in in Aussie
Can you buy a 30 round magazine, and install your own capacity limiting device?
It depends on where you live and what class of licence you have (if you're in Australia)… for example, these mags can be held under category b in South Australia, but in Queensland, you need a category d licence… but then if you had one of these mags limited to 10 rounds, it would be legal in Queensland for example under a category b licence… hopefully that makes sense?
For me, the PMAG M2 is little bit hard to load into the AR 15. I have to press/hit/push it hard to get it in place.
Other than that, nice magazine
That's interesting to hear as I find the M2 maybe a little easier to seat… what brand is your AR?
***** Nope, the PMAG M2 is totally fine. It's just me so stupid that trying to load it up-side-down hahahaha.
BTW, I have Bushmaster XM-15
:-)
I have to slam mine in. That's just how ar mags are fully loaded
I was dumb enough to buy 10 magpul G2 promag and that thing does not seat worth shit. In a gunfight the last thing I want to deal with is dropping my mag like a douchbag out the magwell. They just do not sat like the steel......everyone says these things are great ....am I missing something ?
I pay 11 US dollars for those mags 30 round normal capacity
thereis a mag pul conversion kit I use which will restrict them to ten
1:55 type of ammo ?
I have gen 3, 10 round mag and it keeps falling out while shooting anyone know why ??
Your magazine catch is installed either too loose or too tight. Very easy to fix, tons of videos showing so on RUclips. Just look up "AR15 magazine catch instalation".
The M3 is made of a stronger material.
How is it even possible to over insert the mag into magwell??
Push it in to far, especially when you smack the bottom of the magazine. I've seen it a few times when people are amped up. Obviously only when the bolt is open.
Do you know if these fit a Ruger Precision?
I only trust the M2 (window) PMAG only. Will not trust M3 due to shorter follower on one side, I've had rounds pushed out or mag due to shorter follower which can cause feeding issues. On the other hand M2 utilize the longer follower on both end as you see on video and it helps rounds to stay in mag when bolt is pulled back while mag is inserted in the magwell. Do the test yourself and you'll see the big difference in reliability.
Gen1 PMAGs all the way!!!
Stop.
oi oi oi
Step one - acquire 30 round mags
Step two- be a man and convince your mates to be men as well.
Step three - take your rights back.
Ive been told the rdb wont run gen 2, but will work with 3. According to your video thats fucking BULLSHIT. im having a hard time spotting any difference in the top of the mag.