It's also a huge problem for towing yards. EV cars involved in accidents that were towed to a tow lot have been known to combust almost a week after the actual accident. They just start burning all on their own. I've seen this happen first hand.
Happened right here in my small town. Riggs first ever tow of a Volt that wrecked. It sat in the yard 2 days then ignited. Burned it and a motorhome beside it.
Not only is the fire difficult to extinguish, they release a lot of toxic chemicals that dissolve in the water and make a poisonous soup that contaminates the surrounding area
@drbichat5229, oh well, so what if people's insides begin to ooze out of any orifice in their body, it's all to "FIX CLIMATE CHANGE!!" the hypocritical "elitists" say!
EVs are all about sustainable energy and moving away from fossil fuels. It's never been about environmentally friendly sourcing of materials. You can't build anything without impacting the environment, but you can make sure the machines used have a power source that doesn't.
@@WolfHeathen like lithium?? Lol not a sustainable power source. In fact, if you look at all the processes involved in manufacturing a new ev car you will see that petroleum is needed/used in almost each car part including the paint. Drop-in retrofit engines are cost effective, create jobs, easy on the environment, creates great recycling programs. The world got it all twisted 🥨 right now ... Selling overpriced luxury items as means to prove how "green" you are... hahahahaha very green 🤣
And it just makes sense. I have a friend who makes 500k/yr, still drives his 15 yr old Honda CRV, still going strong! (And yes, he got rich by being smart)
I HAD a 37ft sailboat and an electric bicycle as my transportation when in port. By a series of accidents the 48 volt, fully charged e-bike battery fell into the bilge and shorted out in the salt water. It flared into EXTREMELY hot flames and within three to four minutes the entire boat was on fire. The only way a lithium battery will stop burning is when all the stored electricity has been discharged - you CAN'T put it out.
It is the chemicals in the batteries reacting, once they get hot enough, they produce their own oxygen and will burn until the chem’s are depleted, even under water.
@@da4127The end result is indeed a metallic chemical fire. Like a magnesium fire, burning lithium is extremely hot and nearly impossible to put out with conventional methods. However most of the battery fires are started by a high current discharge (a short), or overly aggressive charging. It is excessive electrical current in the battery that heats it up to ignition temperature.
We tried to tell people this would happen. For almost 20 years I've been an electric forklift mechanic and am very familiar with electric powered vehicles.
My dad told me 15 years ago that all this would happen. Lol he does electrical work in both gas and electrical vehicles. The places they jamm these battery's are not very good places either. Imagine a battery catching fire under your seat? Lol
@@dougvuillemot8670 with lithium batts under charge they don't really emit any explosive gasses like a lead cell battery, however they emit ALOT of Heat, just like our cellphones. Even taking this into consideration heat buildup under certain conditions causes them to catch fire. Don't even get be talking about electric vehicles in floods and the damage that occurs from bridging certain electrical contact points that were not meant to be shorted.
@@williamstamper442 yes, they do put out a lot of heat which can build up and be dangerous!...but, the real danger is because the lithium itself act's like gasoline when it come's in contact with water, which is why it take's about 20 time's the water to put the fire's out, then they have to be separated from anything around them for an extended period of time because they can and have reignited a number of time's day's and even week's after!...i was curious a few year's ago about regular old household batterie's, i took apart a dead lithium ion battery, the lithium metal is super thin sheet's all wound up like aluminum foil (almost the same color)!...before i knew anything about lithium being reactive to water i took a piece and dropped it into water to get the dull powder color off of it, i almost fell backward's out of my chair when it almost exploded when it hit the water!😮...learned a lot more since then, lithium is a horrible industry from where and how we get it, and where and how it's used, untold thousand's of people that work for less than slave wage's and get sick and die all because of the batterie's we need for technology
Wait until the insurance companies start charging more to insure the vehicle. Then wait and see if your homeowner’s insurance either raises your premiums sky high, or drops your coverage when they find you have one of these in your garage.
EVs are already more expensive to insure, for one, once they start acting up or been in an accidents it is totalled by the insurance company, more expensive to repair :D
Even parked in the garage with nobody in it it'll start on fire all by itself I think it was in Texas seven school buses were parked nobody was in them but all sudden one blew up and it caught all of them on fire and the water makes it worse
Like I have stated in previous comments. There are some insurance companies that will NOT insure your home for fire if you own one of these EV's and park it anywhere near your home of any other structure on your property.
@@elesjuan Not really. Coal only makes up about 20% of the power grid now and it's less every year. And if coal is so bad why do all the EV haters want more coal power plants ?
Well, I've looked (for the last 15 years) and Evs are better for the environment (than ICEVs). Perhaps you should spend your time looking yourself instead of posting ignorant comments on RUclips!
Much more economical, A bit safer and after 10 years of driving (charging from a Co2 neutral grid/your own solarpanels) you make less C02 than a Typical ICE car
@@reahs4815 thank you very much for putting my sentiment into words. EVs can be a lot better and if it was done right it will make us a lot less reliant on Russia and other oil producing nations especially if we don't start drilling ourselves
@@nutsackmaniaand every day there are more and more news of inextinguishable fires are caused by those very same evs, what's your point? look mate, I agree evs are cool and eventually they will be the future but battery tech simply isn't there just yet, lithium is rare and volatile, we need something else, and the government DEFINITELY shouldn't be banning combustion engine cars before that
I am a firefighter, it takes a minimum of 20,000 gals of water and 10-12 hours to extinguish the fire. The vehicle can still reignite afterwards on scene, on a tow truck, or at impound/storage yard.
The answer is salt water. The salt shorts-out and discharges the batteries and the water puts out the fire. It takes about one hour of the brine solution to ensure it's safe.
@andyhowlett2231, "most" people would know there's a potential hazard of this, consider the laptops, cell phones with lithium batteries that get hot, some of which have spontaneously combusted in people's pockets/in the cargo hold of airplanes, let alone whilst charging. Also some of the first Chevy Volts that were crash tested, they found that the coolant for the battery had corroded the terminals and suddenly the vehicles erupted in flames in the lot. They also know that water/salt water can corrode the battery terminals and cause vehicles to spontaneously combust so they said if your AE-V battery gets wet/flooded to keep the vehicle outside, away from anything else in the event it could erupt into flames.
Really suffocating it with foam isnt as effective or at least not marginally more effective than water. CO2 would be best but you'll need alot of it, and unless there's a AirGas truck near by, that aint happening. Never thought youd have to hook to a hydrant or need a water supply on a family vehicle.
"Here in the U.S., the first successful electric car made its debut around 1890 thanks to William Morrison, a chemist who lived in Des Moines, Iowa. His six-passenger vehicle capable of a top speed of 14 miles per hour was little more than an electrified wagon, but it helped spark interest in electric vehicles." - I found this quote via Google. Electric cars have been around for a very long time. Maybe there are some very good reasons why they never became popular in the first place?
Thank you “Big Oil” you have our gratitude. When we first looked at a dual powered back in 2013, we decided against because when wrecked, nobody even wanted to approach the car much less help victims escape. Can see why.
There is a documentary called "Who Killed The Electric Car" made in 2006. Some civilians and many celebrities including Ed Begley Jr, Alexandra Paul, Tom Hanks, Mel Gibson, were given the opportunity to lease an experimental EV from General Motors for 5 years. Many did not want to return it and lead to protests by leasees, but lawsuits by GM prevailed and GM destroyed all but two vehicles which one is in an auto museum and the other is owned by Jay Leno who also owns a Chrysler Turbine car from the late 60's. It's an interesting documentary.
"Hydrogen vehicles are not approved for production by governments around the world due to the flammability of the fuel." Then you see this and remember the real reason they're not doing it is money.
Hydrogen is much more flammable. It's much more dangerous. Hydrogen has a wide range of flammable concentrations in air and lower ignition energy than gasoline or natural gas, which means it can ignite more easily.
It does already with electric cars! Most media doesnt report them because they want to push electric cars on us..I know 4 Firefighters in my area and they told me this.
Thanks to Bob Davidson M.D. “One Tesla (or EV) battery has 25 pounds lithium ( which had to be processed with sulphuric acid) 60 pounds nickel 44 pounds manganese 30 pounds cobalt 200 pounds copper 400 aluminum and plastic The machine that mines this uses 900 to 1000 gallons of fuel in a 12 hour period. Electricity to put this together, generated by oil, gas, coal, or nuclear.”
Then add to all of it the VAST majority of charging stations are powered from the grid which is mostly fossil fuel (coal) generating plants. I think it's all a scam for entities to get rich selling the resources you mentioned above.
Can't fool mother nature. Anybody with a brain knows it is inefficient to take energy, turn it into a different energy, store it, and then use it at a later time.
One of the major problems with the lithium batteries is when they burn they can put gas oxides. This feeds the fire. With a regular gas car the oxygen comes from the air. So if you can douse it you can kill the fire. These batteries can't be stopped.
That's one reason the NEWER technology is using LiFePO-4 batteries based on lithium, IRON, and phosphate. Lithium iron phosphate batteries (LiFePO-4 ) offer lots of benefits compared to lead-acid batteries and other lithium batteries. Longer life span, no maintenance, extremely safe, lightweight, improved discharge and charge efficiency, just to name a few.
@@TomTricx Tech exists to put the EV Fires out. Water is injected into the battery pack chilling the entire pack below auto ignition temperature. Dumping 1000s of gallons on top the battery will not cool the hot cells. Fire fighter training and equipment needed.
@@danharold3087 No technology exists for when the car is fully engulfed. Even if it worked, you're creating unnecessary solutions to unnecessary problems.
Of about 170,000 car fires each year on US highways, about fifty of them are EV's. They're ticking time bombs, *hidden among hundreds of thousands* of ticking time bombs.
@@PyroShieldsYou have to ask???? you know it is because you can stop an oil spill. But these batts at critical temps cannot be stopped. Avg fire dept sayd it take over 20,000 gallons of water just to bring one EV car fire under control. But they go off in chains. WHat do you think?
@@gendaminoru3195 The oil Gulf spill lasted over a decade and it took over 60 billion dollars to clean up and pay for lawsuits. Not to mention the damage it does to marine life. Clearly you're knowledge is very Iimited.
I'm old enough to remember the Ford Pinto, which was famous for exploding from minor rear impact. Ford was sued and eventually they discontinued that model. With EVs, the attitude seems to be " oh well, yeah they're dangerous, but they're going to save the planet" .
In 1977, a Pinto unexpectedly passed a NHTSA crash test. It turned out the car had a cheap plastic part that helped protect the gas tank, one of the parts Ford had known would work. It was further discovered that this particular Pinto was built in Canada, where crash standards were more strict.
The Ford pinto holds no light to what these electric vehicles do when they catch on fire and if you happen to be in a wreck with one of these electric cars and your guy Madagascar guess what they can't touch you until they make sure that electric cars is from your car so you can be laying in their dying but they cannot touch you until they get the electric car under control no the bad thing about it our government put the pinto out of business but yet they are promoting these electric cars to kill
You also have another issue in relation to EV fires, at wrecking/storage yards where flooded EV's are mixed in with gas cars/trucks. EV's MUST be separated and placed in another section solely by themselves and the batteries containers removed for fire safety reasons. This battery fire issue isn't only Ford, it's happened with other manufacturers EV's as well.....
True fact: Ships arriving in a naval shipyard with large Li battery banks have those batteries stored under the same precautions as their explosive ordinance.
@GaryTilman909 Oh don’t get me wrong here, I’ve no interest of any kind in electric vehicles. I’m 76 and grew up a petrol head owning real cars,,,Zodiacs Cresta’s Granada’s Manta’s Sierra 4X4’s Mondeo ST 220 etc etc, all the way up to my present day car, a pristine 2007 BMW 530. I just didn’t realise how dangerous EV’s could be.
They did studies and found that electric vehicles actually cause more pollution (manufacture, charging, disposal) than gas powered vehicles. They contain materials that are more toxic than fuel powered vehicles.
@@docpadds2We got locked in a Kia Ceed, the emergency release is a clip on the hatch and you can only find it by searching the owners manual. We had to smash the windscreen out with our feet, because the manual wasn't even in the car.
@@chargeriderepeat7024 Its easier to smash out a side window really. Ya the clip/emergency release wasnt intentionally designed to override the need for a manual. This very caring atheist brings safety considerations to the table of critical thinking for evaluations.
We need a Republican in the WH to kill the mandatory EV government control of having to own an EV and replace all gas appliances and fossil fuel devices with electric. Joe Biden is being blackmailed and compromised by China to force and control everyone to be in an EV and replace fossil fuel stoves and home heating to electric by 2025. Vote Trump in 2024.
Just dont vote Democrat, vote Libertarian, or well, GOP for the next 10 years and we can fix all this woke, Marxist garbage being shoved down our throats.
What this story fails to mention is that days later, these vehicles can just reignite on their own. I recently heard a couple tow companies in my area will not tow EVs that have had fires.
I work for a professional FD in Canada. I have been saying for a LONG TIME that EV's should not be allowed to park, or charge, in underground parking garages.
Same goes for gasoline regular cars tho right? I mean have you seen the way they extract oil? How many people die in those places? And a gasoline powered car having an accident... that fire is toxic, the gasoline seeps into clothes. Have you ever pulled someone out of such a car?
@@BreakfastCroissants definitly !!! That'd be a dream come true mate... but compared to electrics its still at a sluggish pace. I hope it picks up tho.
@@BreakfastCroissantsI like the idea of hydrogen, we just have to find a way to produce it in a clean way. Current hydrogen production produces quite a bit of co2 I do love the idea of an electric car that can be filled in a comparable time to a gas car though
We currently live in an area that people love to keep old vehicles going. A friend just bought a 1989 Honda and a 2001 ford ranger. They certainly aren’t in perfect shape but keeping those older vehicles on the road scrapping them and buying new leaves a far smaller environmental footprint due both to the recycling/rusting away and energy/materials used to manufacture a new one. Then there is the EV scam which puts this on a whole new level. Long term vehicle ownership is not as likely without having to swap out those expensive, chemical laden, hazardous battery packs.
If Congress remains Democratically controlled and another Progressive/Communist President is elected, we'll all be keeping, repairing and duct taping our old cars and trucks.
Older vehicles are nice if you don't live in the salt belt, or in states that require annual inspections. The undercarriage of cars in New England is shot in about 10 years...sometimes less. It isn't just body panels and frames that rot. I just replaced an oil pan and transmission pan that were rotted through on a 2012 with 120K miles.
CBC is basically monarchy installed tax payer paid for church mafia pulling in billion$. The theft of freedom of speech rights, thats called very very manipulative sociopathy. Ever ask yourself, how did doug ford get elected to handle all the tax dollars of ontario, after his brother was caught with exacting video and audio evidence of him trying to hire a hitman and never was even arrested for it? Please reply back unless this comment is made invisible by the church mafia.
@@mr.ponstan7522 as if your country isn’t predatory with limits on free speech As if they don’t hide stuff and kill people who expose the crimes the government does
@@jaystarr6571 Listen you immature little punk some of us out here have family and friends who are firefighters, and as one, your comment is disgusting.
not need Lithium battery to run car ok all need is 12volt deep cycle battery 500A or 1000A ok have 8 12volt battery 500A each you get you 4000 Amp it run the car ok i know that
It's a race between developing batteries where this can't happen, and insurance companies either not insuring EVs at all, or refusing to pay out if your house burns down due to an EV being in the garage.
This can ALWAYS happen when we try to force electrons into confinement with other electrons. There is no battery technology that can make an electron happy to be around others.
What about when they burn under bridges or in tunnels? A vehicle fire that would only cause thousands in damages now may be "unquenchable" and cause millions. Or, more disturbingly, what about cases were people are trapped in a crashed EV and nobody, not even the fire department, can put out the fire?
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 Perhaps the point is --- Apparently, Fire Responders have not figured out they need to have FOAM available on the Pump Truck, etc., to put out those electrical fires yet???? All they needed to do, since this EV thing started, is to go talk to the guys at the Airport that put out Airplane Fires.... They use FOAM....
@@JoeOvercoat gasoline fire is also hot enough to significantly weaken them... so fking what? If your bridge has a single point of failure then thats on you.
Havila Krystruten has banned EVs Hybrids and hydrogen cars from their ships. These are not classic ferry boats. They are cruise ships that allow passengers to bring their car. Ro Ro style. The company owns 4 identical cruise ships. The problem is the crews are not trained to extinguish these less common car fires. No Scandinavian countries have banned EVs on any ferry boats that are not cruise ferries. In fact, Scandinavia is a leader in the adoption of electric vehicles, and Scandinavian ferry companies are committed to safely transporting EVs.
@@e3a3c3 The concerns about lithium-ion batteries in checked luggage are genuine and rooted in past incidents. Modern advancements in battery technology and BMS systems have undoubtedly mitigated the risks. It is far safer to keep the regs in place then to have someone check a low quality or old device and cause a fire. Logically I can also imagine people charging up devices prior to flying. I can see potential problems with this and checked baggage. A fully charged cell could conceivably rupture as the plane gains altitude and pressure drops. But they have vents to prevent that. Regardless the regs make sense. But they have little to do with shipping cars unless it is by air freight.
Considering the whole point is to reduce emissions, I wonder if anyone has ever added these fire emissions to an EV's total emissions to figure out an accurate comparison with ICE engine total emissions. Not every EV will burn, but it appears to be more than just an inconsequential occurrence, and it sure looks like a significant amount of emissions going into the atmosphere when it does occur.
It's inconsequential given the massive number of HOUSE and structure fires every year, which includes burning of tar and asphalt roofs, chipboard, plastics of all kind, foam insulation, foam in furniture, fabrics, electronics, paint (lead paint on older houses) attics exposed that can contain asbestos contaminated zonolite vermiculate insulation that is still found in an estimated 80 MILLION attics; The media hypes up the rare EV fires because its unique and dramatic, and it's taken out of context, especially in comparision to this; In 2017, fire departments responded to 357,000 home fires, which resulted in 2,630 fatalities, 10,600 injuries and $7.7 billion in cumulative property loss. Between 2011 and 2015, municipal fire departments in the U.S. responded to an estimated average of 37,910 fires at industrial or manufacturing properties each year, with annual losses from these fires estimated at 16 civilian deaths, 273 civilian injures, and $1.2 billion in direct property damage. Then there's the BIG fires with massive amounts of toxic smoke,, like the one that happened to that Pepcon rocket fuel plant that kept burning and exploding, and like the compressed gas tank elsewhere that had thousands of stored tanks full of welding gasses located in a city and it caught fire and tanks were exploding and taking off like missiles.
@@HobbyOrganist Houses don't spontaneously combust like lithium batteries do. What you left out of your "facts" are the percentage of houses than burn compared to the percentage of EV's. Just in the last hurricane they were going up left and right from being exposed to salt water.
@@HobbyOrganist none of your arguments are valid in light of the government legislating mass adoption. they will no longer be "inconsequential" as your propaganda starts out.
The whole point is for everyone to have a vehicle that these companies and government will have control over. Environmental issues have nothing to do with this.
Yea. That was going to be my next question. How long before EV owners home insurance skyrockets. Then when you have a fire, they will say "...you should have known this could happen... not covered..."
EV car insurance will be sky high if it isn't already. Then comes everything they are burning. I guess we don't worry about the kids in Africa mining lithium in bare feet.
OMG ! What on earth would the Fire Brigade be able to do if this was a collection of multiple electric vehicles pileup on a highway/freeway, with this kind of intense heat
....No, honey....just bring the steaks, and tin-foiled potatoes. Fire ? No problemo ! We've got that covered,.....very good fire here.....Say what ? You'll be a bit late. ? NO problemo....the heat will still be on......see you then......
@@musk-eteer9898 one of the differences being that it’s much easier to put out a fire on a ICE vehicle. There was a whole ship carrying EVs that caught fire and sunk because it couldn’t be extinguished
@@avman2cl ice cars have had problems catching driving or parked. Check out the Ford Pinto, Ferraris, Lambos, or the amount of recalls due to fuel line leaks and fires. EV’s are getting heat now ‘cause they’re new.
@@avman2cl they do, All it takes is a build of charge inside the tank. Most EV’s don’t randomly ignite either btw,they have a trigger, be it extreme heat or a punctured battery, and those 2 would also cause a gas fire too,
@@N2.W8SThe man in the video said that firefighters are not necessarily prepared because they have never seen a fire. Lol Hopefully he meant an EV fire, not just a fire in general like he said.
What they haven't told you is that EV battery fires burn at 3,000 degrees plus, as opposed to a petrol fire which burns at 850 degrees. This, I believe, puts families and houses at extreme risk as the speed and ferocity of electric fires is a much bigger risk than the average car fire that owners might have experienced before.
Actually, the other way around. The rate of energy release in an EV is many times slower than any gasoline fire, making gasoline far more dangerous, which is the reason why there are far more deaths with gasoline and diesel on a percentage basis. You have confused temperature with the release of energy, which by contrast is a function of temperature and mass.
@@harrymills2770 i’m not going to believe you, because you’re only giving a very small part of the story. Small mass at 3000° is nowhere near as dangerous as a pool of gasoline under your car at 850°.
That certainly looks more green than a combustion engine… even to put it out takes more resources let alone the damage it does to other property around it.
@@rickpicone9751 yup and harms us breathing it in as well. Unless the goal from these politicians is to put us in more harm… pretty sure at this point that is the goal. After all the WEF wants the world population to less than a billion.
dude holy crap you are literally genius level. i mean, of course every EV built automatically bursts into flames not just a few hundred. i mean, who has ever seen a gasoline fueled car burning on the side of the road--does not happen #extremelogicaldeductions
@@nutsackmania EV’s can’t be put out with just water. Also everything around it goes up real quick. Unlike combustion engines where it’s very rare they go up. Also diesel isn’t as flammable as you think it is. Shows you are certainly far from being a Gen’us.
They probably shouldn't be trying to make an electric car. They can't even make an ice car that can hold up to a decade of use without having to be rebuilt.
Hey, don't worry, The Canadian Government is giving billions of dollars and South Korean employees to help with EV production, I mean, what could go wrong? 🤔
The fire department’s around here, according to my friends from my Paramedic days, aren’t spraying water on them because of the risk of electrocution and the reaction that lithium has with water.
“Ok firefighters , I want you to go to that burning vehicle and hook on to a solid attachment point near the bottom of the vehicle so we can pull it away. And if you have the time shift it into neutral so it rolls easier. Ok? Training done, good job!”😂😭☠️
All those statements he says they're so dumb charger car outside how many people can charge your cars outside several Evie bikes have blown up while they're riding them down the road it's all very dangerous
People need to see this. These aren't freak accidents. As long as there is a lithium based battery involved, combustion is inevitable. Not a matter of if, but when. The only way to prevent it is to get rid of that battery. This is why I will never have one.
I mean comparing this to the amount of deadly gasoline car accidents there are... eh? It's really not that bad. And add to that the amount of people dying from smog caused problems.
@@neilrobertson811 Your phone has a very small lithium battery. These EV's have several thousand lithium batteries, and if any one of them short out all the rest start burning also. What you stated makes as much sense as trying to bail out a boat that has a 3 foot hole in the bottom with a tea cup.
It depends on the composition of the lithium battery. The ones with cobalt in them are the ones that burn like this. Lithium iron phosphate ones don't don't burn like that.
This is now making me realize a probable cause as to why there was a car on fire in an auto railcar full of new vehicles being pulled by a train going by my neighbor about a month ago.
The sad part is the story should be about the insane push for EV’s and why nobody is asking serious questions. Instead the guy at the end ignores the actual problem and simply says need more training.
@@justinbogart278 I mean good lord insurance rates are insane. From Tesla voiding battery warranties cause a guy drove in heavy rain to Hyundai charging 60k for a new battery pack because the bottom cover was scraped but still intact. Nobody wants to work on them, nobody wants to tow them, and insurance wants nothing to do with them.
Just think if this truck or car was in your garage. Your entire home and possibly the neighbors home as well may be destroyed. I can only imagine insurance on EVs must be very expensive as well because when they catch fire, in most cases they are completely destroyed because they burn hot and fast due to the chemicals used in the batteries.
Another thing to consider regarding EV fires are they plugged into a charging station and are there any hazmat concerns for firefighters and ecologically
There are so many things about these E~cars that they don’t tell you about. Now if you have one of these catch fire in your garage, And you are able to save your home but there’s extensive smoke damage. Is that now considered hazardous material? How do you get all those burnt battery chemicals out of your home?
There are so many things they don't tell you because most of that crap isn't true. Big Oil BS making sure people stick to their oil addiction. Gas cars are actually more likely to catch on fire then an EV, even more after an accident.
Look up Norway’s Stavanger airport parking garage fire. 100 plus cars burned which was started by a diesel car. There are 140,000 car fires in the US annually, which amounts to 380 per day! There are several gas station fires every day. There are deaths and injuries every day caused by gas vehicles but not many of us knew that or cared. EV fires do have special needs to extinguish and we have to find the best way to deal with them just as we did with gas vehicles. Several people have looked at the rate of EV fires and it is much lower at this time than gas vehicles which should actually help reduce the yearly rate.
Has already happened…at least one known case of occupant trapped in vehicle after high speed collision….with fire……unable to extricate themselves due to NO mechanical backup for door locks……yes that scenario was fatal to at least one occupant.
I hate the way things work theses days, the fire department won’t comment and were forced to release the video. Can’t tell the news or the truth because of politics. There not going to talk about this because we’re supposed to like EV’s.
This just a part of the WEF/NWO agenda to attempt to limit your ability to travel extensive distances comfortably, quickly and reliably. They're goal of enslavement into 15 minute cities and eventuality put you into pods as the cull the world population by 90% with China as they're global enforcers.
The government officials who dictate this unproven technology, should be held accountable. There is no such thing as clean energy. I live near two of the largest open pit copper mines in Canada. It's a disaster.
The mining aspect is a huge issue not many are aware of. Photos of the mines and tailings ponds need to be circulated and shared over and over again! This insanity has to be stopped! Hope you find a way to get the votes to get rid of the little emperor and his merry band of idiots in your parliament.
And lithium is mined in only a few places in the world. The environmental standards will be lower than those in Canada. People should just look into maintaining their current car. And if they need another car, just look into an efficient gas one.
I'm doing my part to remedy this situation. I just got the gas engine on my 1999 Subaru rebuilt, so it's highly doubtful I'll ever own an EV in my lifetime! You're welcome!
Thats what I need: a nice, old, small, gasoline fuel-efficient car, to own, and rebuild the engine, on. I was considering a 1998 Honda Civic, myself, since my girlfr had one, years ago, and I liked it, and there were a lot of them made, and a lot still around, but I also like your use of your 1999 Subaru, another, small, fuel-efficient, older car--sounds good to me!
@@michaeltotten7508 -- *What a coincidence... Allow me to assist you. I found a 1998 Honda Civic LX for my son for $500 a few years ago, which we spent about $150 making roadworthy, and it ran like a charm for him for almost two years. It wasn't pretty, and had high miles, but it got him around (locally). I warned him not to take it on long trips. BUT... old Hondas are in such high demand because of all the "fart-can" kids, and parts are hard to find, so they get STOLEN at a ridiculous rate, which is what happened to my son's Honda. It was found in the rough part of town a few days later, raped of it's fuel system, and unrepairable.* *So, I advised him NOT to go buy a new car as he was planning, because the costs would be above his ability to manage AND have a life, so he found a used 2004 Subaru Outback wagon, with only 84,000 miles on it, for $3500... Unfortunately, very shortly we discovered it needed head gaskets, (a common problem with Subarus, I learned) which cost $3200. That became my college graduation gift to him, since I had talked him into buying used, to avoid the high insurance and loan costs. But his little "Suby" has run like a champ ever since, and he has driven it all over the intermountain Western USA.* *So use that info in whatever way it may help you!... No charge!* 🙂
Unfortunately, that will soon not be an option, there are already rumours that some states are saying they will no longer register certain classes of vehicles, they will simply put an age limit on the ICE’s that they will register, and in a few years, no more ICE’s on the road
So in my 40 years working in the environmental field I was told to NEVER use water on an eleictrical fire. Dry chemical to separate the oxygen from the fuel.
Charge your electric scooter outside in NYC so it’s fully charged when it’s stolen.
Maybe stop using known dangerous vehicles to make your lives easier then!
What do you do with it during NY winter? Buffalo gets 10' of snow and ice storms
@@davidderler5924 NYC barely gets snows
I charge the kids hover boards in the walk in shower.
That is a good one. !
I'll bet all that toxic smoke caused far more atmospheric damage than a regular F-150 does in its entire service life.
Thee only remans & clues they found were thee MADE IN CHINA stickers...
The BLM/Antifa/Dem climate riots have caused far more environment damage.
True.
Nonsense……..They are zero emission vehicles😂😂😂
@@georgealdredge2806 Hahaha, that smoke column looks like zero emissions to me lol!
It's also a huge problem for towing yards. EV cars involved in accidents that were towed to a tow lot have been known to combust almost a week after the actual accident. They just start burning all on their own. I've seen this happen first hand.
Maybe just tow it to the owners driveway and let them deal with it. Wake up Bitchies!
Nearly impossible to put out too. Electric cars are absolutely worthless in every possible way. People who buy them are beyond low IQ.
Electrical shorts
Happened right here in my small town. Riggs first ever tow of a Volt that wrecked. It sat in the yard 2 days then ignited. Burned it and a motorhome beside it.
Maybe the battery was at 100% for too long, I've had new batteries inflated like balloons for sitting at 100% from the manufacturer
Not only is the fire difficult to extinguish, they release a lot of toxic chemicals that dissolve in the water and make a poisonous soup that contaminates the surrounding area
@drbichat5229, oh well, so what if people's insides begin to ooze out of any orifice in their body, it's all to "FIX CLIMATE CHANGE!!" the hypocritical "elitists" say!
Some European car ferry companies have already banned electric cars from boarding ships.
Wait until insurance companies raise your homeowner insurance if you own an EV!
What could go wrong with a fire on a vessel at sea? Oh yeah...that.
Lol! Here on Seattle where there is a dozen ferries running all day loaded with the liberals and their EVs. It's just a matter of when, not if!
@@johnwest3287 Well, if those EV's catch fire, the liberals will be going down with their ships. That wouldn't be such a bad idea now, wouldn't it?
@@MyNathanking I guess, all in time my friend. But to them it's only what they have been inspired to think by our puppet Masters.
Repairing your current vehicle is actually more environmentally friendly than wasting resources to buy a new one.
EVs are all about sustainable energy and moving away from fossil fuels. It's never been about environmentally friendly sourcing of materials. You can't build anything without impacting the environment, but you can make sure the machines used have a power source that doesn't.
@@WolfHeathen like lithium?? Lol not a sustainable power source. In fact, if you look at all the processes involved in manufacturing a new ev car you will see that petroleum is needed/used in almost each car part including the paint. Drop-in retrofit engines are cost effective, create jobs, easy on the environment, creates great recycling programs. The world got it all twisted 🥨 right now ... Selling overpriced luxury items as means to prove how "green" you are... hahahahaha very green 🤣
That's the truth. It may not be trendy but that is the truth.
And it just makes sense. I have a friend who makes 500k/yr, still drives his 15 yr old Honda CRV, still going strong! (And yes, he got rich by being smart)
@@jent6476 smart people see the value in the things they have.
He didn't mention that an EV can catch fire again hours, days or even weeks later.
Yes, it’s called re-ignition from thermal runaway
Which is why once it catches fire, it's totaled. The fire dept. hauls it off to a junkyard.
I HAD a 37ft sailboat and an electric bicycle as my transportation when in port. By a series of accidents the 48 volt, fully charged e-bike battery fell into the bilge and shorted out in the salt water. It flared into EXTREMELY hot flames and within three to four minutes the entire boat was on fire. The only way a lithium battery will stop burning is when all the stored electricity has been discharged - you CAN'T put it out.
It is the chemicals in the batteries reacting, once they get hot enough, they produce their own oxygen and will burn until the chem’s are depleted, even under water.
It’s not the electricity that mostly causes the fire, even a fully discharged lithium battery can burst into flames that last days
@@da4127The end result is indeed a metallic chemical fire. Like a magnesium fire, burning lithium is extremely hot and nearly impossible to put out with conventional methods. However most of the battery fires are started by a high current discharge (a short), or overly aggressive charging. It is excessive electrical current in the battery that heats it up to ignition temperature.
We tried to tell people this would happen. For almost 20 years I've been an electric forklift mechanic and am very familiar with electric powered vehicles.
My dad told me 15 years ago that all this would happen. Lol he does electrical work in both gas and electrical vehicles. The places they jamm these battery's are not very good places either. Imagine a battery catching fire under your seat? Lol
@@dougvuillemot8670 with lithium batts under charge they don't really emit any explosive gasses like a lead cell battery, however they emit ALOT of Heat, just like our cellphones. Even taking this into consideration heat buildup under certain conditions causes them to catch fire. Don't even get be talking about electric vehicles in floods and the damage that occurs from bridging certain electrical contact points that were not meant to be shorted.
@@williamstamper442 yes, they do put out a lot of heat which can build up and be dangerous!...but, the real danger is because the lithium itself act's like gasoline when it come's in contact with water, which is why it take's about 20 time's the water to put the fire's out, then they have to be separated from anything around them for an extended period of time because they can and have reignited a number of time's day's and even week's after!...i was curious a few year's ago about regular old household batterie's, i took apart a dead lithium ion battery, the lithium metal is super thin sheet's all wound up like aluminum foil (almost the same color)!...before i knew anything about lithium being reactive to water i took a piece and dropped it into water to get the dull powder color off of it, i almost fell backward's out of my chair when it almost exploded when it hit the water!😮...learned a lot more since then, lithium is a horrible industry from where and how we get it, and where and how it's used, untold thousand's of people that work for less than slave wage's and get sick and die all because of the batterie's we need for technology
@@dougvuillemot8670 Or over your head like the French bus that was fully engulfed in a matter of seconds.
Funk FPV
Wait until the insurance companies start charging more to insure the vehicle. Then wait and see if your homeowner’s insurance either raises your premiums sky high, or drops your coverage when they find you have one of these in your garage.
EVs are already more expensive to insure, for one, once they start acting up or been in an accidents it is totalled by the insurance company, more expensive to repair :D
right on
Even parked in the garage with nobody in it it'll start on fire all by itself I think it was in Texas seven school buses were parked nobody was in them but all sudden one blew up and it caught all of them on fire and the water makes it worse
Like I have stated in previous comments. There are some insurance companies that will NOT insure your home for fire if you own one of these EV's and park it anywhere near your home of any other structure on your property.
They got really picky during the pandemic, can't have old cars on stands. They'll 💯 go after this
Look into how those batteries are made and tell me EVs are better for the environment
EV is the biggest Global Scam made for American 🐑🐏
not to mention how they're charged.... C O A L . . . . .
@@elesjuan Not really. Coal only makes up about 20% of the power grid now and it's less every year. And if coal is so bad why do all the EV haters want more coal power plants ?
@@SkaBob 60% of the US grid is fossil fuel though.
Well, I've looked (for the last 15 years) and Evs are better for the environment (than ICEVs). Perhaps you should spend your time looking yourself instead of posting ignorant comments on RUclips!
Tell me again how economical, safe & eco-friendly these EVs are.
Very.
Very very
Much more economical, A bit safer and after 10 years of driving (charging from a Co2 neutral grid/your own solarpanels) you make less C02 than a Typical ICE car
@@reahs4815 thank you very much for putting my sentiment into words. EVs can be a lot better and if it was done right it will make us a lot less reliant on Russia and other oil producing nations especially if we don't start drilling ourselves
ZERO!
Imagine this happening at a charging station in a garage under a high rise apartment building!
It's coming...
That's the Plan.. 3 in every home.. if it's not clear yet.. they want us all dead.
there are millions of EVs driving around and we're all still here; how is this possible???
Get informed loser. Tesla has only sold a couple of million. Ford and GM sell that many trucks every year.@@nutsackmania
@@nutsackmaniaand every day there are more and more news of inextinguishable fires are caused by those very same evs, what's your point? look mate, I agree evs are cool and eventually they will be the future but battery tech simply isn't there just yet, lithium is rare and volatile, we need something else, and the government DEFINITELY shouldn't be banning combustion engine cars before that
I'll keep my gasoline truck, thanks ⛽
Imagine your gas car having an electrical fire.
Gas vehicle catch fire 60x more than a EV
@@stevehayward1854 Is that stat when both type of vehicles are parked or a general stat that is misleading?
Gas cars catch on fire more then EVs so good luck Einstein
I know no one that would buy one.
I am a firefighter, it takes a minimum of 20,000 gals of water and 10-12 hours to extinguish the fire. The vehicle can still reignite afterwards on scene, on a tow truck, or at impound/storage yard.
how many EV fires did you need to extinguish so far?
The answer is salt water. The salt shorts-out and discharges the batteries and the water puts out the fire. It takes about one hour of the brine solution to ensure it's safe.
buy a tesla
i love how the world picks the dumbest idea possible and keeps doing it, like tons of water on an electrivcal fire.
I imagine they're just making it "breathe" with water
This seems to be a problem they either a) did not know about or b) knew about but decided it would be so rare they could ignore it.
@andyhowlett2231, "most" people would know there's a potential hazard of this, consider the laptops, cell phones with lithium batteries that get hot, some of which have spontaneously combusted in people's pockets/in the cargo hold of airplanes, let alone whilst charging. Also some of the first Chevy Volts that were crash tested, they found that the coolant for the battery had corroded the terminals and suddenly the vehicles erupted in flames in the lot. They also know that water/salt water can corrode the battery terminals and cause vehicles to spontaneously combust so they said if your AE-V battery gets wet/flooded to keep the vehicle outside, away from anything else in the event it could erupt into flames.
Lithium reacts violently to water.
I have heard that but I am wondering if a dry chemical fire extinguisher would work or not.I know they use foam on oil or petroleum fires.
@@jeffharper7579 foam is the only thing that puts Ev fires out
So driving in the rain, sleet or snow?
In lithium rechargeable batteries lithium is an ion and unreactive with water.
Really suffocating it with foam isnt as effective or at least not marginally more effective than water. CO2 would be best but you'll need alot of it, and unless there's a AirGas truck near by, that aint happening. Never thought youd have to hook to a hydrant or need a water supply on a family vehicle.
"Here in the U.S., the first successful electric car made its debut around 1890 thanks to William Morrison, a chemist who lived in Des Moines, Iowa. His six-passenger vehicle capable of a top speed of 14 miles per hour was little more than an electrified wagon, but it helped spark interest in electric vehicles." - I found this quote via Google.
Electric cars have been around for a very long time. Maybe there are some very good reasons why they never became popular in the first place?
Go watch the movie, who killed the electric car? It was big oil that killed this car
Thank you “Big Oil” you have our gratitude.
When we first looked at a dual powered back in 2013, we decided against because when wrecked, nobody even wanted to approach the car much less help victims escape.
Can see why.
@@hitekredneck109 this might be the dumbest thing I’ve read all year, and this has been a special year….congrats…
@@joshuad1716 no, yours was an uneducated ramble. 🤡
There is a documentary called "Who Killed The Electric Car" made in 2006. Some civilians and many celebrities including Ed Begley Jr, Alexandra Paul, Tom Hanks, Mel Gibson, were given the opportunity to lease an experimental EV from General Motors for 5 years. Many did not want to return it and lead to protests by leasees, but lawsuits by GM prevailed and GM destroyed all but two vehicles which one is in an auto museum and the other is owned by Jay Leno who also owns a Chrysler Turbine car from the late 60's. It's an interesting documentary.
"Hydrogen vehicles are not approved for production by governments around the world due to the flammability of the fuel." Then you see this and remember the real reason they're not doing it is money.
Hydrogen is much more flammable. It's much more dangerous.
Hydrogen has a wide range of flammable concentrations in air and lower ignition energy than gasoline or natural gas, which means it can ignite more easily.
Wait until they find out about gasoline
A full tank of hydrogen for a fuel cell Weighs 9 kilograms.
Toyota might actually get the last laugh
hydrogen gas is very flammable, liquid hydrogen is explosive. a hydrogen flame is invisible too.
These things are far too dangerous to be in any public space. Why are they not illegal?
$$$$$ is why, the right people are being paid the right amount to keep this charade going and the general public is too dumb to see it!
Because of vested interest.
follow the money and climate change!
Imagine this happening in your garage or next to your house...
It does already with electric cars! Most media doesnt report them because they want to push electric cars on us..I know 4 Firefighters in my area and they told me this.
Homeowner insurance rates are going to increase thanks to EVs.
Imagine your gas car having an electrical fire.
@@bobroberts2371 yeah that would be bad too, but that can be put out quicker than a EV fire. Both are bad one is worse than the other.
@@Cmoredebris I could definitely see that happening.
Thanks to Bob Davidson M.D.
“One Tesla (or EV) battery has
25 pounds lithium ( which had to be processed with sulphuric acid)
60 pounds nickel
44 pounds manganese
30 pounds cobalt
200 pounds copper
400 aluminum and plastic
The machine that mines this uses 900 to 1000 gallons of fuel in a 12 hour period.
Electricity to put this together, generated by oil, gas, coal, or nuclear.”
That’s 1.3 gallons per minute. That’s a pretty hungry machine
Then add to all of it the VAST majority of charging stations are powered from the grid which is mostly fossil fuel (coal) generating plants. I think it's all a scam for entities to get rich selling the resources you mentioned above.
Can't fool mother nature. Anybody with a brain knows it is inefficient to take energy, turn it into a different energy, store it, and then use it at a later time.
Thanks for posting your dumb af conspiracy lies.
Many of the mining equipment is also going electric. Just like trains, they are basically electric engines powered by generators.
Not only are they super heavy they burn uncontrollably
Thank all of you electric vehicle owners for single handedly saving our planet. You guys are doing it! Great job!
Absolutely
One of the major problems with the lithium batteries is when they burn they can put gas oxides. This feeds the fire. With a regular gas car the oxygen comes from the air. So if you can douse it you can kill the fire. These batteries can't be stopped.
Would you shut up.
Your phone battery is lithium as well and it didn't blow up in your face when calling or texting this god awful comment...Jesus
That's one reason the NEWER technology is using LiFePO-4 batteries based on lithium, IRON, and phosphate.
Lithium iron phosphate batteries (LiFePO-4 ) offer lots of benefits compared to lead-acid batteries and other lithium batteries. Longer life span, no maintenance, extremely safe, lightweight, improved discharge and charge efficiency, just to name a few.
Its a chemical reaction, so it doesn't even need Oxygen to continue. Only way to diminish it is to cool it down, but that is almost impossible.
@@TomTricx Tech exists to put the EV Fires out. Water is injected into the battery pack chilling the entire pack below auto ignition temperature. Dumping 1000s of gallons on top the battery will not cool the hot cells. Fire fighter training and equipment needed.
@@danharold3087 No technology exists for when the car is fully engulfed. Even if it worked, you're creating unnecessary solutions to unnecessary problems.
Stop forcing EV on people Cause it’s not that simple Take it slow and make a few models here there
EV's... literally hidden ticking time-bombs.
Exactly 💯
ICEs literally destroying the planet with climate change. I'll take my chances with EVs.
It's like setting up a human grill
Of about 170,000 car fires each year on US highways, about fifty of them are EV's. They're ticking time bombs, *hidden among hundreds of thousands* of ticking time bombs.
@@evognayr batteries dont just combust when they get old, they have to be punctured
My volunteer firefighter dad always told me that the most toxic fire was large high capacity batteries.
Look how environmentally friendly those EV are. All that smoke and chemicals. The environment is thanking you
Not to mention what goes into manufacturing the batteries and later disposing with them after useful lives. It's far worse than ICE's
And the strip mining, destroying & scarring the planet, ALL in hopes for a failing agenda to look "rightous".
@@gendaminoru3195 Is it worse than an oil spill that takes over a decade to clean up?
@@PyroShieldsYou have to ask???? you know it is because you can stop an oil spill. But these batts at critical temps cannot be stopped. Avg fire dept sayd it take over 20,000 gallons of water just to bring one EV car fire under control. But they go off in chains. WHat do you think?
@@gendaminoru3195 The oil Gulf spill lasted over a decade and it took over 60 billion dollars to clean up and pay for lawsuits. Not to mention the damage it does to marine life. Clearly you're knowledge is very Iimited.
Can you imagine this happening in your home's garage??
This is the very reason that across the nation most condos will not alow you to install and ev charger in your garrage
it has happened. during a hurricane.
Good way to kill everyone in the house ,these things are very dangerous
@@zoso1123 If I was forced to have one, the charger would be far away from the house and the car would be parked on the street.
Has happened. Home owner insurance shouldn't pay for the dummies who buy these vehicles.
I'm old enough to remember the Ford Pinto, which was famous for exploding from minor rear impact. Ford was sued and eventually they discontinued that model.
With EVs, the attitude seems to be " oh well, yeah they're dangerous, but they're going to save the planet" .
In 1977, a Pinto unexpectedly passed a NHTSA crash test. It turned out the car had a cheap plastic part that helped protect the gas tank, one of the parts Ford had known would work. It was further discovered that this particular Pinto was built in Canada, where crash standards were more strict.
Pinto was maligned. It was never as bad as the media lied about it!
These are not meant to save the planet, that is a lie. These are built to destroy the planet.
I just wonder how many humans are going to be left after they save the planet.
The Ford pinto holds no light to what these electric vehicles do when they catch on fire and if you happen to be in a wreck with one of these electric cars and your guy Madagascar guess what they can't touch you until they make sure that electric cars is from your car so you can be laying in their dying but they cannot touch you until they get the electric car under control no the bad thing about it our government put the pinto out of business but yet they are promoting these electric cars to kill
This is a world wide problem we recently had a multi storey car park burn down here in the UK absolute madness.
Omg. That's crazy! I would never in my entire life own one of those EV's. They are incredibly inconvenient and Incredibly dangerous.
@@Mischa21xo The only thing incredibly dangerous are people like you..
You also have another issue in relation to EV fires, at wrecking/storage yards where flooded EV's are mixed in with gas cars/trucks. EV's MUST be separated and placed in another section solely by themselves and the batteries containers removed for fire safety reasons. This battery fire issue isn't only Ford, it's happened with other manufacturers EV's as well.....
EV batteries should be treated like nuclear waste and until they are we will continue to have deadly fires!
Build Back Better
Store them underwater and charge accordingly.
That’s correct! They are extremely dangerous! China has a EV graveyard! Its on yt!
True fact: Ships arriving in a naval shipyard with large Li battery banks have those batteries stored under the same precautions as their explosive ordinance.
These EVs are the gift that just keeps on giving.
Cannon fodder never produces afterlives, but stockholm syndrome is addicted to overlooking facts.
Gift from China like fiyntnol
😂😂😂
Like AIDS
Like herpes?
In a normal world, when someone has a bad/dangerous idea, we stop doing that thing. In todays world they just keep pushing it.
Several years to come, EVs will join the list of the dumbest inventions in human history
MANDATING it
If China, California or Biden is pushing something, run the other way.
It's the liberal way.
That's a good idea if their agenda is to depopulate humankind.
The irony that Ford named them the 'lightning' is palpable. No EV gets to park on my property, ever.
Don't forget the water they use to quench the fire, and running into the storm drain is also now highly toxic. 😮
You are right E.V. or a big problem.
You should share your status if you have EV.
Just like the water from any fire they put out, it's all toxic.
Wow I never even thought of that 😱
@GaryTilman909 Oh don’t get me wrong here, I’ve no interest of any kind in electric vehicles. I’m 76 and grew up a petrol head owning real cars,,,Zodiacs Cresta’s Granada’s Manta’s Sierra 4X4’s Mondeo ST 220 etc etc, all the way up to my present day car, a pristine 2007 BMW 530. I just didn’t realise how dangerous EV’s could be.
They did studies and found that electric vehicles actually cause more pollution (manufacture, charging, disposal) than gas powered vehicles. They contain materials that are more toxic than fuel powered vehicles.
EV s are here to stay and recycling them will improve, it's still early
But the fake liberals are pushing them as a means of controlling society.
Exactly. Its all a big lie.
@@peterwilliamson8721 zero chance
Sure buddy. And tobacco companies did studies that showed smoking wasn’t harmful.
Sounds environmentally friendly 👍
Lol, it will turn people into instant ASH.
Just like the mining for the battery minerals.
EV = ignorance
😂
@@tedtan6449 And gasoline powered cars don't do that?
I am seeing videos like this every day. I wish there was a way to track the number of fires. I’m sure it’s under reported.
The media wouldn't do that would they?
My biggest concern is the door locks, which are all by wire thesedays..not working in a fire, leaving you trapped in a burning car.
Good point
Even a Tesla has an emergency release for the door, its required by law.
@@docpadds2We got locked in a Kia Ceed, the emergency release is a clip on the hatch and you can only find it by searching the owners manual.
We had to smash the windscreen out with our feet, because the manual wasn't even in the car.
@@docpadds2 Yeah, but if you don't know where it is at, you're toast. Literally.
@@chargeriderepeat7024 Its easier to smash out a side window really.
Ya the clip/emergency release wasnt intentionally designed to override the need for a manual.
This very caring atheist brings safety considerations to the table of critical thinking for evaluations.
Just wait until your electric car gets old, and the wire starts to fray....
No, wire does not just start to fray....It is shielded pretty heavy for starters....
It's a good thing they aren't forcing us to go all electric in the near future...oh...oh wait .....
We need a Republican in the WH to kill the mandatory EV government control of having to own an EV and replace all gas appliances and fossil fuel devices with electric. Joe Biden is being blackmailed and compromised by China to force and control everyone to be in an EV and replace fossil fuel stoves and home heating to electric by 2025. Vote Trump in 2024.
Just dont vote Democrat, vote Libertarian, or well, GOP for the next 10 years and we can fix all this woke, Marxist garbage being shoved down our throats.
They will NEVER force me to go Electric. I'll flat out tell them to go to hell.
I'd buy a big diesel dump truck before I'd by an EV
Great Leap forward from internal combustion vehicles to spontaneous combustion vehicles!!
Well, the science is there?!?!?!?
From Internal combustion to external combustion
What this story fails to mention is that days later, these vehicles can just reignite on their own. I recently heard a couple tow companies in my area will not tow EVs that have had fires.
Or in a parking garage.......
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@@flodjod Oh? Want to share what you disagree with?
Ev’s need to be handled differently after accidents.
Actually, they did mention it.
Looks super "enviro-friendly" to me.. 👍
It's not like those black fumes are chok full of cancerous toxins or anything like that...
Exactly 👍
Oh yes indeed,..good point!! 😂
Is this your first time pretending to care about the environment? It's not convincing but nice try
I think now we know what happened a few years ago when that ship full of cars caught fire and burned and sunk
Yep, it was a meltdown! And sinking
yep and coevred up i bet too
@@NickyD With water!!!!!
Do they SHIP the EV batteries separately now.
No way. lol
This just in. Ford renamed the Lightning to the "Fire Edition"
I work for a professional FD in Canada. I have been saying for a LONG TIME that EV's should not be allowed to park, or charge, in underground parking garages.
As if the process for harvesting the raw materials for the batteries wasn’t bad enough.
Same goes for gasoline regular cars tho right?
I mean have you seen the way they extract oil? How many people die in those places?
And a gasoline powered car having an accident... that fire is toxic, the gasoline seeps into clothes. Have you ever pulled someone out of such a car?
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 well, you’re not wrong. Personally i hope we make some more headway on hydrogen.
@@BreakfastCroissants definitly !!! That'd be a dream come true mate... but compared to electrics its still at a sluggish pace.
I hope it picks up tho.
@@BreakfastCroissantsI like the idea of hydrogen, we just have to find a way to produce it in a clean way. Current hydrogen production produces quite a bit of co2
I do love the idea of an electric car that can be filled in a comparable time to a gas car though
We currently live in an area that people love to keep old vehicles going. A friend just bought a 1989 Honda and a 2001 ford ranger. They certainly aren’t in perfect shape but keeping those older vehicles on the road scrapping them and buying new leaves a far smaller environmental footprint due both to the recycling/rusting away and energy/materials used to manufacture a new one. Then there is the EV scam which puts this on a whole new level. Long term vehicle ownership is not as likely without having to swap out those expensive, chemical laden, hazardous battery packs.
If Congress remains Democratically controlled and another Progressive/Communist President is elected, we'll all be keeping, repairing and duct taping our old cars and trucks.
who paid you to write this
Older vehicles are nice if you don't live in the salt belt, or in states that require annual inspections. The undercarriage of cars in New England is shot in about 10 years...sometimes less. It isn't just body panels and frames that rot. I just replaced an oil pan and transmission pan that were rotted through on a 2012 with 120K miles.
Newer vehicles are rotting away faster than the older ones !!!!
100% agreed.
Sounds like the new Ford Lighting is going to be called a Ronson, because it lights every time.
It's nice to see this being reported. Our media in Canada would never show this. Due to the governments stronghold on our media.
I hope you all find a way to take your country back.
CBC is basically monarchy installed tax payer paid for church mafia pulling in billion$.
The theft of freedom of speech rights, thats called very very manipulative sociopathy.
Ever ask yourself, how did doug ford get elected to handle all the tax dollars of ontario, after his brother was caught with exacting video and audio evidence of him trying to hire a hitman and never was even arrested for it?
Please reply back unless this comment is made invisible by the church mafia.
This has already been known. Nothing new. Our media is a joke.
@@mr.ponstan7522 as if your country isn’t predatory with limits on free speech
As if they don’t hide stuff and kill people who expose the crimes the government does
The maple leaf on your flag has been replaced with a soy bean!
As a former fireman, I’d never have an EV.
0:48 Is it true that "firefighters" have probably haven't seen a fire?
Friends don't let friends drive firestarters! ⚡️🚘💣🔥😳
@@jaystarr6571personally from a family of fire fighters I’ve have several members go to wild fires multiples times over the years
@@jaystarr6571 Listen you immature little punk some of us out here have family and friends who are firefighters, and as one, your comment is disgusting.
not need Lithium battery to run car ok all need is 12volt deep cycle battery 500A or 1000A ok have 8 12volt battery 500A each you get you 4000 Amp it run the car ok i know that
This video should be shown on every news station around the world, daily, for a year.
And mandatory that they show it.
Yeah, they were trying to hide it, but thank goodness to the freedom of information request, we're able to see it 👀
Watch some of the videos from China.
Amen
That would be Russian disinformation
The easiest way to put out an electric fire is not to have an electric car in the first place.
It's a race between developing batteries where this can't happen, and insurance companies either not insuring EVs at all, or refusing to pay out if your house burns down due to an EV being in the garage.
This can ALWAYS happen when we try to force electrons into confinement with other electrons. There is no battery technology that can make an electron happy to be around others.
@@Deploraclethats not how electrons work.. The nucleus wont allow protons to supersede the amount of protons.
Go back to elementary science class.
@@dnegel9546 Tell that to a capacitor.
@@Deploracle you have to get rid of the resistors.
If only.
What about when they burn under bridges or in tunnels? A vehicle fire that would only cause thousands in damages now may be "unquenchable" and cause millions. Or, more disturbingly, what about cases were people are trapped in a crashed EV and nobody, not even the fire department, can put out the fire?
Same thing happens when gasoline cars crash and burn...
whats your point?
We'd just change the approach to the kind of fire.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 Perhaps the point is --- Apparently, Fire Responders have not figured out they need to have FOAM available on the Pump Truck, etc., to put out those electrical fires yet???? All they needed to do, since this EV thing started, is to go talk to the guys at the Airport that put out Airplane Fires.... They use FOAM....
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 EV fires will be hot enough to warp the steel I-beams of bridges. Now, you know.
@@JoeOvercoat gasoline fire is also hot enough to significantly weaken them... so fking what?
If your bridge has a single point of failure then thats on you.
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 it’s almost as if your original question was not sincere. go figure.
Scandinavian countries do not allow EVs on car ferries for this exact reason!
Havila Krystruten has banned EVs Hybrids and hydrogen cars from their ships. These are not classic ferry boats. They are cruise ships that allow passengers to bring their car. Ro Ro style. The company owns 4 identical cruise ships. The problem is the crews are not trained to extinguish these less common car fires.
No Scandinavian countries have banned EVs on any ferry boats that are not cruise ferries. In fact, Scandinavia is a leader in the adoption of electric vehicles, and Scandinavian ferry companies are committed to safely transporting EVs.
@@danharold3087 If it were a matter of training, then why didn't they just train people instead of banning EVs? You're a little too glib.
@@harrymills2770 I was not glib. The ferry company took the path of least resistance aka cost.
@@danharold3087 You may be right, but every airline in the world prohibits lithium batteries in your checked luggage.
@@e3a3c3 The concerns about lithium-ion batteries in checked luggage are genuine and rooted in past incidents. Modern advancements in battery technology and BMS systems have undoubtedly mitigated the risks. It is far safer to keep the regs in place then to have someone check a low quality or old device and cause a fire. Logically I can also imagine people charging up devices prior to flying. I can see potential problems with this and checked baggage. A fully charged cell could conceivably rupture as the plane gains altitude and pressure drops. But they have vents to prevent that. Regardless the regs make sense.
But they have little to do with shipping cars unless it is by air freight.
Imagine this happening in a public parking garage where firetrucks cannot fit.
Toyota said that all EV's "suck the Royal Bag"
Considering the whole point is to reduce emissions, I wonder if anyone has ever added these fire emissions to an EV's total emissions to figure out an accurate comparison with ICE engine total emissions. Not every EV will burn, but it appears to be more than just an inconsequential occurrence, and it sure looks like a significant amount of emissions going into the atmosphere when it does occur.
It's inconsequential given the massive number of HOUSE and structure fires every year, which includes burning of tar and asphalt roofs, chipboard, plastics of all kind, foam insulation, foam in furniture, fabrics, electronics, paint (lead paint on older houses) attics exposed that can contain asbestos contaminated zonolite vermiculate insulation that is still found in an estimated 80 MILLION attics;
The media hypes up the rare EV fires because its unique and dramatic, and it's taken out of context, especially in comparision to this;
In 2017, fire departments responded to 357,000 home fires, which resulted in 2,630 fatalities, 10,600 injuries and $7.7 billion in cumulative property loss.
Between 2011 and 2015, municipal fire departments in the U.S. responded to an estimated average of 37,910 fires at industrial or manufacturing properties each year, with annual losses from these fires estimated at 16 civilian deaths, 273 civilian injures, and $1.2 billion in direct property damage.
Then there's the BIG fires with massive amounts of toxic smoke,, like the one that happened to that Pepcon rocket fuel plant that kept burning and exploding, and like the compressed gas tank elsewhere that had thousands of stored tanks full of welding gasses located in a city and it caught fire and tanks were exploding and taking off like missiles.
@@HobbyOrganist Houses don't spontaneously combust like lithium batteries do. What you left out of your "facts" are the percentage of houses than burn compared to the percentage of EV's. Just in the last hurricane they were going up left and right from being exposed to salt water.
Don’t forget the 3 massive container ship fires.
@@HobbyOrganist none of your arguments are valid in light of the government legislating mass adoption. they will no longer be "inconsequential" as your propaganda starts out.
The whole point is for everyone to have a vehicle that these companies and government will have control over. Environmental issues have nothing to do with this.
Yep, and when I was getting my insurance policy for our house they asked if I had a charging station. My answer was, hell no.
Yea. That was going to be my next question. How long before EV owners home insurance skyrockets. Then when you have a fire, they will say "...you should have known this could happen... not covered..."
EV car insurance will be sky high if it isn't already. Then comes everything they are burning. I guess we don't worry about the kids in Africa mining lithium in bare feet.
How did the insurance company respond to your "HELL NO"?
Can you imagine this happening to a vehicle parked in an underground parking spot under a high rise apartment
OMG ! What on earth would the Fire Brigade be able to do if this was a collection of multiple electric vehicles pileup on a highway/freeway, with this kind of intense heat
Watch
it would melt through the road for a good distance, it would be so hot they'd never get it out
Tell it to Biden and see what kind of lie he will tell you.
@@christopherhall5361 no. No it wouldn’t… that not how heat works u can’t just have multiple fires to make it hotter.
....No, honey....just bring the steaks, and tin-foiled potatoes. Fire ? No problemo ! We've got that covered,.....very good fire here.....Say what ? You'll be a bit late. ? NO problemo....the heat will still be on......see you then......
I'm sure all of those fumes released are safe for the environment too. 😂
EV’s catch fire all of the time but most media buries the reports
i thought the same with ICE cars, just a matter of who is paying attention
@@musk-eteer9898 one of the differences being that it’s much easier to put out a fire on a ICE vehicle. There was a whole ship carrying EVs that caught fire and sunk because it couldn’t be extinguished
@@musk-eteer9898 ice vehicles do not randomly combust while sitting idle.
@@avman2cl ice cars have had problems catching driving or parked. Check out the Ford Pinto, Ferraris, Lambos, or the amount of recalls due to fuel line leaks and fires. EV’s are getting heat now ‘cause they’re new.
@@avman2cl they do, All it takes is a build of charge inside the tank. Most EV’s don’t randomly ignite either btw,they have a trigger, be it extreme heat or a punctured battery, and those 2 would also cause a gas fire too,
Looks like a free barbecue with every EV sold ,what a bargain
Do not blame Firefighters. They are the heroes who are dealing with this mess.
Those heroes get to deal with ALL the messes!
I didn't hear anyone blaming the firefighters . Did you ?
And in many cases provide cover for the EV evangelists.
@@andylaauk site an example
@@N2.W8SThe man in the video said that firefighters are not necessarily prepared because they have never seen a fire. Lol Hopefully he meant an EV fire, not just a fire in general like he said.
What they haven't told you is that EV battery fires burn at 3,000 degrees plus, as opposed to a petrol fire which burns at 850 degrees. This, I believe, puts families and houses at extreme risk as the speed and ferocity of electric fires is a much bigger risk than the average car fire that owners might have experienced before.
Actually, the other way around. The rate of energy release in an EV is many times slower than any gasoline fire, making gasoline far more dangerous, which is the reason why there are far more deaths with gasoline and diesel on a percentage basis.
You have confused temperature with the release of energy, which by contrast is a function of temperature and mass.
@@colingenge9999 "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"
@@harrymills2770 i’m not going to believe you, because you’re only giving a very small part of the story. Small mass at 3000° is nowhere near as dangerous as a pool of gasoline under your car at 850°.
@@colingenge9999 You've obviously never seen a litium battery fire then? lol.
@@colingenge9999an ev battery is hardly a "small mass".
If this doesn’t convince you to avoid electric vehicles I don’t know what will.
It doesn’t. Petrol autos burn daily. Everyone is used to them, so it isn’t really news.
Did you forget gas powered cars explode?
@@pongmolina2157 moron
@@pongmolina2157 Not like electric cars do
Government does not plan on adopting ev infrastructure because they want us to have fire hazard paper weights.
Imagine having one of these in your garage !!!!!
That certainly looks more green than a combustion engine… even to put it out takes more resources let alone the damage it does to other property around it.
And the toxic smoke it's putting out. Like that's really good for the environment.
@@rickpicone9751 yup and harms us breathing it in as well. Unless the goal from these politicians is to put us in more harm… pretty sure at this point that is the goal. After all the WEF wants the world population to less than a billion.
dude holy crap you are literally genius level. i mean, of course every EV built automatically bursts into flames not just a few hundred. i mean, who has ever seen a gasoline fueled car burning on the side of the road--does not happen #extremelogicaldeductions
@@nutsackmania EV’s can’t be put out with just water. Also everything around it goes up real quick. Unlike combustion engines where it’s very rare they go up. Also diesel isn’t as flammable as you think it is. Shows you are certainly far from being a Gen’us.
Even Tesla recommends not changing your vehicle in your garage but outside garage. Due to fire hazard
EV's don't charge well when it's cold so almost half the year in many parts of the world they are no good. I will NEVER buy an EV.
Isn’t that the whole point of a garage?
@@JensSchraeder yup but they aren’t safe . That’s what I read anyway
My friend who works at GM told me that these so called EVs are nothing but an absolute nightmare..
They probably shouldn't be trying to make an electric car. They can't even make an ice car that can hold up to a decade of use without having to be rebuilt.
Wait until people can’t afford to fix them. Disposable cars designed to cost too much to repair.
EVs are a nightmare at GM.
GM and Ford are losing ground to Tesla and Toyota. Serves them right.
Hey, don't worry, The Canadian Government is giving billions of dollars and South Korean employees to help with EV production, I mean, what could go wrong? 🤔
Between this the windmills and the acres of solar panels, our government is batting 1000.
Well, just think. The post office in it's 200 year history has NEVER been profitable!
Evs are a giant mistake
ev's are not a mistake but this rush to get rid of ICE vehicles
I don’t need gas stations or oil changes and costs me $15 for 300 miles of range. Works for me
You were a mistake, EVs need work.
@master bait and on top of all this relying on China to make the batteries
@@13MAM13 lol, until you get to replace the battery...then you get to pay for all the oil changes at once
The fire department’s around here, according to my friends from my Paramedic days, aren’t spraying water on them because of the risk of electrocution and the reaction that lithium has with water.
Imagine the cars that get dumped in a lake. 🌋
What about having an electric fire truck go up?
I bet they had to cut the power to those charging stations before putting out the fire!!
@@garybulwinkle82 you don't put them out. you let them burn out.
I work with a volunteer FF. He said they are not allowed to use water on EVs or houses with solar panels on the roof because of electrocution hazard
“Ok firefighters , I want you to go to that burning vehicle and hook on to a solid attachment point near the bottom of the vehicle so we can pull it away. And if you have the time shift it into neutral so it rolls easier. Ok? Training done, good job!”😂😭☠️
Neutral? Anyone cares if it is in “N”? The other point is legit.
Xzactly, are the EV manufacturers gonna place a special tow hook spot on the front and rear just for this purpose, I think not.
All those statements he says they're so dumb charger car outside how many people can charge your cars outside several Evie bikes have blown up while they're riding them down the road it's all very dangerous
They'll need bomb suits now because it could 💥
They don't have neutral. You have to drag them.
Those flames and smoke are fierce!!
EVs are about control,
yup, just like B S CLIMATE CHANGE!
People need to see this. These aren't freak accidents. As long as there is a lithium based battery involved, combustion is inevitable. Not a matter of if, but when. The only way to prevent it is to get rid of that battery. This is why I will never have one.
I've got a 14 year old phone gathering dust in the cupboard with original lithium battery. Hasn't combusted yet.
I mean comparing this to the amount of deadly gasoline car accidents there are... eh?
It's really not that bad. And add to that the amount of people dying from smog caused problems.
I read somewhere that a Chevy Volt caught fire in the service department of a chevy dealer and the whole dealership burned to the ground..
@@neilrobertson811 Your phone has a very small lithium battery. These EV's have several thousand lithium batteries, and if any one of them short out all the rest start burning also. What you stated makes as much sense as trying to bail out a boat that has a 3 foot hole in the bottom with a tea cup.
It depends on the composition of the lithium battery. The ones with cobalt in them are the ones that burn like this. Lithium iron phosphate ones don't don't burn like that.
This is now making me realize a probable cause as to why there was a car on fire in an auto railcar full of new vehicles being pulled by a train going by my neighbor about a month ago.
The sad part is the story should be about the insane push for EV’s and why nobody is asking serious questions. Instead the guy at the end ignores the actual problem and simply says need more training.
What's your alternative suggestion? Ban all cars and expand Publix transit 10X?
@@justinbogart278 I mean good lord insurance rates are insane. From Tesla voiding battery warranties cause a guy drove in heavy rain to Hyundai charging 60k for a new battery pack because the bottom cover was scraped but still intact. Nobody wants to work on them, nobody wants to tow them, and insurance wants nothing to do with them.
Stop putting these death traps on the highways and in peoples homes.
Are people that stupid? why don't they just stop buying them?
@@papo1515 YES the SHEEP are that STUPID, they know nothing but what they are told by the MSM. not smart enough to investigate anything on their own.
Just think if this truck or car was in your garage. Your entire home and possibly the neighbors home as well may be destroyed. I can only imagine insurance on EVs must be very expensive as well because when they catch fire, in most cases they are completely destroyed because they burn hot and fast due to the chemicals used in the batteries.
Another thing to consider regarding EV fires are they plugged into a charging station and are there any hazmat concerns for firefighters and ecologically
Most certainly. Read the list of ingredients contained in these batteries. Evidently the technology was pushed ahead without due process.
On my way to Austin, 700 miles, I counted 8 places where cars had pulled over and burned. Michael
There are so many things about these E~cars that they don’t tell you about. Now if you have one of these catch fire in your garage, And you are able to save your home but there’s extensive smoke damage. Is that now considered hazardous material? How do you get all those burnt battery chemicals out of your home?
Probably some smoke repair guy will come in and paint everything for $150,000 and say its safe then you will grow a third testicle in a few years
Gut the house to the studs 😢
There are so many things they don't tell you because most of that crap isn't true. Big Oil BS making sure people stick to their oil addiction. Gas cars are actually more likely to catch on fire then an EV, even more after an accident.
@@juliogonzo2718 Excuse me? It is Ma'am!
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Imagine this happening in a parking garage under a building.
Imagine that is your garage attached to your house with your family sleeping in their beds
Wait until insurance companies refuse policies…
google parking garage fires and see what burns for yourself.
Or in public parking spaces, adjacent to corporate office buildings
Look up Norway’s Stavanger airport parking garage fire. 100 plus cars burned which was started by a diesel car. There are 140,000 car fires in the US annually, which amounts to 380 per day! There are several gas station fires every day. There are deaths and injuries every day caused by gas vehicles but not many of us knew that or cared. EV fires do have special needs to extinguish and we have to find the best way to deal with them just as we did with gas vehicles. Several people have looked at the rate of EV fires and it is much lower at this time than gas vehicles which should actually help reduce the yearly rate.
These fires are so hard to put out can you imagine being trapped in one after a wreck
Has already happened…at least one known case of occupant trapped in vehicle after high speed collision….with fire……unable to extricate themselves due to NO mechanical backup for door locks……yes that scenario was fatal to at least one occupant.
Revelations. FIRE not FLOOD will be next 🤔.
@@stephencannon3140source?
No need for cremation, it's done on site😂
Or aboard a ferry boat miles from land?
Only ev owners think they can defy physics , it’s not training, it’s how batteries burn toots.
I hate the way things work theses days, the fire department won’t comment and were forced to release the video. Can’t tell the news or the truth because of politics. There not going to talk about this because we’re supposed to like EV’s.
Welcome to communism
This just a part of the WEF/NWO agenda to attempt to limit your ability to travel extensive distances comfortably, quickly and reliably. They're goal of enslavement into 15 minute cities and eventuality put you into pods as the cull the world population by 90% with China as they're global enforcers.
They just pose different risks. You won't die from carbon monoxide poisoning in your garage with an EV.
So a test vehicle at a factory catches on fire?
The government officials who dictate this unproven technology, should be held accountable. There is no such thing as clean energy. I live near two of the largest open pit copper mines in Canada. It's a disaster.
Tell that to California and other States in the USA.
Just drove by one on holiday and stopped for photos! What an amazing landscape created! An 11km settling lake!
The mining aspect is a huge issue not many are aware of. Photos of the mines and tailings ponds need to be circulated and shared over and over again! This insanity has to be stopped! Hope you find a way to get the votes to get rid of the little emperor and his merry band of idiots in your parliament.
And lithium is mined in only a few places in the world. The environmental standards will be lower than those in Canada. People should just look into maintaining their current car. And if they need another car, just look into an efficient gas one.
Not to mention how are they going to dispose of the mountains of toxic batteries in the near future?
Look at all that beautiful GREEN smoke!
Mass adoption of cars/trucks that burn themselves down?
Guess the EV market didn't get a clue when E-Cig and Cell phones were exploding in people's pockets!!😂
I'm doing my part to remedy this situation. I just got the gas engine on my 1999 Subaru rebuilt, so it's highly doubtful I'll ever own an EV in my lifetime! You're welcome!
Thats what I need: a nice, old, small, gasoline fuel-efficient car, to own, and rebuild the engine, on. I was considering a 1998 Honda Civic, myself, since my girlfr had one, years ago, and I liked it, and there were a lot of them made, and a lot still around, but I also like your use of your 1999 Subaru, another, small, fuel-efficient, older car--sounds good to me!
Your loss
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@@Edwardo-e7j I doubt it.
Unfortunately, that will soon not be an option, there are already rumours that some states are saying they will no longer register certain classes of vehicles, they will simply put an age limit on the ICE’s that they will register, and in a few years, no more ICE’s on the road
This is a hot topic.
We have a burning desire to know more
What a fiery news report.
I saw what you did there.
OK I lol'd
It's all smoke and mirrors.
Yes Julio, it's a BURNING desire 😂
So in my 40 years working in the environmental field I was told to NEVER use water on an eleictrical fire. Dry chemical to separate the oxygen from the fuel.