Unfortunately, many modern storage sleeves are “loosy-goosy” and don’t have PVC, so that’s not a great way to test them. I saw another video that showed that if you burn a little of the plastic, the flame turns green if it has PVC, so I’ll be testing all of my non-brand name plastic products now.
Other than PVC, storing coins in paper napkins can be hazardous. I found a wad of old tissue paper containing war-era 10 penny iron coins and they'd all corroded. Another collection was all safe. And I'd used 80s/90s leftover memo pad paper to roll regular circulated coins before reading about paper acidity, so I checked to make sure my copy paper follows the ISO 9706 (acid-free) standard and rerolled all of them with that paper. Silver and billon coins are flipped without further consideration in mylar and cardboard 2x2s.
This also applies to currency bills as well, though more dramatic effects happen such as the paper becoming brittle, or the ink basically liquefying, or both... I use Supersafe brand top loader holders for my bills and clear hard polystyrene 2x2's and roll tubes for my coins... PVC = Degradation in value for anything it 'protects'...
Thank you for the reminder. I checked my coin collection and found a restruck 1 Thaler Maria Theresa coin that was in a PVC flip. No damage yet, but thanks for reminding me to take it out.
Make sure you keep some of the Mylar flips on-hand everyone!! Grading companies require coins to be shipped in those plastic flips! Thought I was already subbed.. Now subbed for sure, happy stacking!!
Time to buy some mylar flips.. Just started going through my collection after 10 years in storage and found a few Morgan's with green rims.. Was Wondering what it was and then came across this video! Thank you!!!
Tou can't tell, therefore it's not considered cleaning in the field of numismatics. Acetone does not react with silver nor gold. But unfortunately doesn't clean pvc damage either. It will wash a fresh fingerprint or fake patina some sellers on ebay put on coins (actually black grease which I personally find disgusting and might cover some defects on purpose). Acetone doesn't remove real patina either so don't worry. Make sure you don't scratch the coin with fingers or anything. Just hold it by the edge with clean fingers and dip it in the chemically pure acetone, but do not allow it to touch the container and don't touch the obverse or the reverse of the coin with anything if you want to keep the "uncleaned" status for your precious coin. But if you do have pvc damage, you might need to physically scratch the green demon away. I find it works well with matchsticks or wooden popsicle handles under a big loupe, as the wood is softer than metal and the overall damage will be held at minimum. It did happen at least once to see pvc damage so bad I had to use an Xacto knife. I did scratch the coin, but with pvc damage it was only worth the melt value anyway.
just use acrylic coin capsules like Lighthouse/Leuchtturm and you'll be safe. The cheap holders are not to be trusted. Small ziplock bags are polyethylene and could be safe too, but coin capsules are better IMHO
Hi I'm currently collecting strictly British coins only but I have a Kennedy half dollar and I would like to know why its made to look like silver but the rim is copper
Can pvc plastic flips be rigid too? I bought some not too long ago on amazon and didn’t check the material, they are rigid and also have a hard time staying folded on their own
I handled my coins using vinyl disposable gloves which at the time did not know contained PVC, does this mean that my coins will now have PVC damage in the future?
I use the mylar and cardboard holders for regular coins and the expensive ones I store them in quadrum capsules. PVC is awful but unfortunately very commonly used.
Im 14 yrs old 2 months ago i bought a coin book the outside is pvc but the slots the coins are inserted is non pvc in 100 coins I can see 5 with the green stuff will the others also get can you help me please ?
So, I've got thousands of cherry-picked wheats and memorials in mylar 2x2's. The coins have been stored in these holders for at least 10 years. Now, there's some online chatter and people are saying collectors should replace the 2x2 holders about every 18 months. However, those same people offer no logic, nor justification to support said advice. I feel that keeping the 2x2's in a temperature-controlled, average humidity environment should be just fine. I cannot see why in the world I would need to go through all the hassle of cutting those countless 2x2's open every 2 years, just to put the coins right back into brand new holders. Does this make any sense to anyone reading this?
I've never heard that before. The whole point of the Mylar is that it is non-reactive (so it would not need to be changed because it doesn't chemically affect the coins). I have kept coins in Mylar 2x2s for many years and they are absolutely fine. Plus, you're more likely to damage your coins when cutting them out of the 2x2s than the Mylar going bad or something unlikely like that
Silverpicker thanks for the reply. Yeah, I agree with you. I did some more research on their reasoning, and they claim it's because of the cardboard degassing over time, and also, staples rusting from even the slightest amount of humidity, etc. As one collector countered their concerns about the degassing notion, he pointed out the fact that since the cardboard would eventually be done degassing over the years, no further degassing would occur at that point in time. Further, he argued that removing the coins from the already degassed holders, and placing them in new holders every few years, would only start the degassing process over again each time. I have to agree with his logic. In addition, I suppose if my staples start rusting, I'll go with stainless steel in the future and to help prevent that from happening, maybe I'll toss some silica sachets in the storage boxes.
You can put any plastic that are not reactive like Polypropylene for examplethis plastic is also safe with both Coins & Banknotes to store with because they are also non reactive like Mylar did but you must take care with it because of originate oxidization so yea Polypropylene is safe but you need to take care of them also
Hey SilverPicker! This video's kinda old, what about the unplasticized vinyl (uPVC) flips they have now like the ones made by Guardhouse? Are those safe for long-term storage?
@@Silverpicker thanks for the speedy reply! Maybe pin my comment as an update to this video or even make an update video if you're looking for some content to put out.
I've got a few tubes of silver coins such as maples and eagles and they have milk spots in tubes but some were spotted when I bought them but some have changed in the tube
To be honest, I'm not sure, but if they are the rigid ones, they're probably safe. Real coin holders are very cheap, though, so it's probably best to get the real ones. Cardboard 2x2s are like $2 for 100
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You just saved like $3000 worth of my coins thanks man
My pleasure! Really happy you saw this!!
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Does the 2x2 Double Pocket Vinyl Flip BCW work???
Unfortunately, many modern storage sleeves are “loosy-goosy” and don’t have PVC, so that’s not a great way to test them.
I saw another video that showed that if you burn a little of the plastic, the flame turns green if it has PVC, so I’ll be testing all of my non-brand name plastic products now.
Unfortunately, right. Lots of people get hoodwinked by those TV sellers
Thank you so much! My entire collection was in PVC! I will fix that now!
Glad I could help!
@@Silverpickeris it safe to just keep my collection in my grandma purse
PVC is why I started to use coin trays instead of holders/ albums
Smart
Learn new things everyday. No damage to my coins and now no PVC coin holders. Yeah, I subscribed and liked. Thanks
Thanks Dee! Glad this video was of help to you!
Other than PVC, storing coins in paper napkins can be hazardous. I found a wad of old tissue paper containing war-era 10 penny iron coins and they'd all corroded. Another collection was all safe.
And I'd used 80s/90s leftover memo pad paper to roll regular circulated coins before reading about paper acidity, so I checked to make sure my copy paper follows the ISO 9706 (acid-free) standard and rerolled all of them with that paper.
Silver and billon coins are flipped without further consideration in mylar and cardboard 2x2s.
frick I had a Australian 1966 80% silver coin uncirculated in pvc I just took it out thanks.
Awesome! Glad to help
This also applies to currency bills as well, though more dramatic effects happen such as the paper becoming brittle, or the ink basically liquefying, or both...
I use Supersafe brand top loader holders for my bills and clear hard polystyrene 2x2's and roll tubes for my coins...
PVC = Degradation in value for anything it 'protects'...
I am from India and you are doing a great job... It's very useful information
Thank you for the reminder. I checked my coin collection and found a restruck 1 Thaler Maria Theresa coin that was in a PVC flip. No damage yet, but thanks for reminding me to take it out.
5 years old video - but i truly caught the value of the content so: thanks a lot!
Make sure you keep some of the Mylar flips on-hand everyone!! Grading companies require coins to be shipped in those plastic flips! Thought I was already subbed.. Now subbed for sure, happy stacking!!
Glad to have you! Welcome to the Silverpicker Squad!
Will share this video with my coin club!
Amazing! Thanks :)
Thank you I spent 26 dollars on a binder and after watching this video I'm taking all my coins out.
Better to lose $26 than your whole collection!
Great information, definitely worth a subscribe! Thankyou!
As a newbie, thank you! I’m trying to sort through bags of ziplocks full of coins from my father!
Oh wow, fantastic info. Thanks
Glad to help!
Thanks for sharing the info. It will help in the future
Time to buy some mylar flips.. Just started going through my collection after 10 years in storage and found a few Morgan's with green rims.. Was Wondering what it was and then came across this video! Thank you!!!
This is honestly the kind of comment that makes me want to continue making videos. So happy to help you preserve your collection!
Nice Video. You now what you talking about 👍
How can you tell if a coin has been dipped in acetone? Does the acetone react with the silver?
It should not be noticeable. The idea is that the acetone reacts with the pvc but not the silver
Tou can't tell, therefore it's not considered cleaning in the field of numismatics. Acetone does not react with silver nor gold. But unfortunately doesn't clean pvc damage either. It will wash a fresh fingerprint or fake patina some sellers on ebay put on coins (actually black grease which I personally find disgusting and might cover some defects on purpose). Acetone doesn't remove real patina either so don't worry. Make sure you don't scratch the coin with fingers or anything. Just hold it by the edge with clean fingers and dip it in the chemically pure acetone, but do not allow it to touch the container and don't touch the obverse or the reverse of the coin with anything if you want to keep the "uncleaned" status for your precious coin. But if you do have pvc damage, you might need to physically scratch the green demon away. I find it works well with matchsticks or wooden popsicle handles under a big loupe, as the wood is softer than metal and the overall damage will be held at minimum. It did happen at least once to see pvc damage so bad I had to use an Xacto knife. I did scratch the coin, but with pvc damage it was only worth the melt value anyway.
Excellent tips!!.Thank you so much for sharing!!
My pleasure! If you learned something, share it on social media and spread the word (it'll help me out too)!
I have used coin flips like that all the time but I have never had any corrosion or ruined coins
I wouldn't do that if I were you. It can takes years and years before you notice anything. Then one day, you've lost your whole collection's value
Thanks! I use the hard plastic storage cases
Great!
RUclipsWatcher the hard ones are good
Great information 🎉
Glad it was helpful!
Man, here in Brazil, most holders doesn't have pvc in their composition. But thank you for the recomendation! Greetings from Brazil! 👍🇧🇷🇧🇷
Thank you! Im new to collecting and didnt know this.
thank you for the video i have had my coins in a pvc flip since January im a new collector
I bought an uncirculated walking liberty half that’s been in one of those for years!
And what does it look like?
Very helpful buddy! I’m doing a complete change out on all my coins today 👍🏼
So glad to hear it!! That's what this video is all about!
Please can you give any coin by delevery from india
Some of my coins got damaged in so called good 2x2 coin holders.....how to distinguish between reactive and non reactive plastic....????
I've heard that pvc has a strong smell of plastic to it.
just use acrylic coin capsules like Lighthouse/Leuchtturm and you'll be safe. The cheap holders are not to be trusted. Small ziplock bags are polyethylene and could be safe too, but coin capsules are better IMHO
Thanks for the tip
My pleasure
I've always bought and stuck with 2x2 flips
Also 2x2 mylar flips used to be made with pvc. Around the late 90's when they discovered pvc ruined coins they started making them with mylar.
Really good info. I didn't know that.
Lots of great info. Thank you so much!
Thanks!
How can I check my 2x2s?
Hello! I was curious to know if the same rule applies to polythene resealable zip lock bags?
Wow man thanks u saved me had few coins in bend flips changed them to the good flips
Thanks for the tips, I have tons of the 4 by 4 cases so I put my coins in there. Thanks again
Excellent, just make sure it's a non-reactive plastic
Beeswax, oil or Helium gas intrinsic capsule. Rinse with low ionic solvent then distilled water and dry for display.
Hi I'm currently collecting strictly British coins only but I have a Kennedy half dollar and I would like to know why its made to look like silver but the rim is copper
great guy's! thanks for your resourcefull information you shared to us.more power to you buddy.
My pleasure!
Thank you for sharing this it saved a lot of my coins
Can pvc plastic flips be rigid too? I bought some not too long ago on amazon and didn’t check the material, they are rigid and also have a hard time staying folded on their own
I bought some Guardhouse uPVC flips. Are those safe for coin storage?
I am a young collector from Philippines i have a 1930 coin but I don't have a holder can you make a video making a DIY coin holder
ifrit 8 | I use trading card sleeves as homemade coin holders but I don’t know if they contain pvc or not
Thanks for the silver saving info
My pleasure Joako!
That was some very useful information, thank you
I recently ordered some silver from apmex and they came in those sealed plastic bags. Should I take them out of this plastic?
I handled my coins using vinyl disposable gloves which at the time did not know contained PVC, does this mean that my coins will now have PVC damage in the future?
Very informative video. Thanks for the good advice on storing your coins.
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Excellent article
Thanks for the tip on that one man. Learning something new every day lol
I use the mylar and cardboard holders for regular coins and the expensive ones I store them in quadrum capsules. PVC is awful but unfortunately very commonly used.
you can acetone any coin and it will not devalue it as long as you don't leave the coin for to long.
Good video. 👍
Im 14 yrs old 2 months ago i bought a coin book the outside is pvc but the slots the coins are inserted is non pvc in 100 coins I can see 5 with the green stuff will the others also get can you help me please ?
What about bcw vinyl coin flips
Well said my friend!!!
Thanks for sharing. Good info.
Acetone dip is not considered cleaning, as acetone doesn't actually react with silver at all, and it surely doesn't remove pvc damage
Thanks for the information. I enjoyed the video very much.
You have any tips for getting coins on a budget
could plastic insert folders damege coins?
Thank you i just emptyed my book out i was wondering y that book was so cheap it broke on me the very first time i used it
Another collection saved!
PVC likes sticking to stuff when it deteriorates.
Interesting stuff Silverpicker! Note to self... dont use PVC flips :D. Looks like I'll be sticking to capsules and coin tubes going forward.
Awesome! You're future self will be super happy!
are zip lock are pvc?
Great advice..I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't already have this knowledge. Thank you silver picker! 👍
How can I know the paper flips I have been using are pvc free?
Depends where you got them from. If you got them from a coin shop, they're probably totally fine. Wish.com, not so much lol
send a link to non pvc flips
Where did you find that coin
Is there any way you can make it non toxic plastic
Great info. Much appreciated. Mylar and acid free papers or cardboards.
So, I've got thousands of cherry-picked wheats and memorials in mylar 2x2's. The coins have been stored in these holders for at least 10 years. Now, there's some online chatter and people are saying collectors should replace the 2x2 holders about every 18 months. However, those same people offer no logic, nor justification to support said advice. I feel that keeping the 2x2's in a temperature-controlled, average humidity environment should be just fine. I cannot see why in the world I would need to go through all the hassle of cutting those countless 2x2's open every 2 years, just to put the coins right back into brand new holders. Does this make any sense to anyone reading this?
I've never heard that before. The whole point of the Mylar is that it is non-reactive (so it would not need to be changed because it doesn't chemically affect the coins). I have kept coins in Mylar 2x2s for many years and they are absolutely fine. Plus, you're more likely to damage your coins when cutting them out of the 2x2s than the Mylar going bad or something unlikely like that
Silverpicker thanks for the reply. Yeah, I agree with you. I did some more research on their reasoning, and they claim it's because of the cardboard degassing over time, and also, staples rusting from even the slightest amount of humidity, etc. As one collector countered their concerns about the degassing notion, he pointed out the fact that since the cardboard would eventually be done degassing over the years, no further degassing would occur at that point in time. Further, he argued that removing the coins from the already degassed holders, and placing them in new holders every few years, would only start the degassing process over again each time. I have to agree with his logic. In addition, I suppose if my staples start rusting, I'll go with stainless steel in the future and to help prevent that from happening, maybe I'll toss some silica sachets in the storage boxes.
Very simple and very helpful, thank you very much
My pleasure, Nathan!
Thank you!
Had a couple in PVC, glad I saw this.
Ziplock bags in Europe are mostly made of ldpe (low density polyethyelne) which are also safe. Mylar contains polyethylene terephthalate (pet).
You can put any plastic that are not reactive like Polypropylene for examplethis plastic is also safe with both Coins & Banknotes to store with because they are also non reactive like Mylar did but you must take care with it because of originate oxidization so yea Polypropylene is safe but you need to take care of them also
I have an old coin master merc dime album that tore up 50 dimes. Had it for years ,since I was a kid...
That's frustrating to hear. At least they still have their silver value!
@@Silverpicker True . I did get the green crap off with acetone bath . I have em in a baby food jar now . Lol.
Does it damage gold too?
Thank you So Much. My silver coin was in PVC.
Glad I could help! Share the video to spread the word!
Thanks man! I appreciate the detailed explanation and money saving tip.
Q.) I have a dozen or so morgan dollars. I wanted to ask if you have any idea of their worth.
A few 1882-S PCGS MS64 and a few 1885-O also PCGS MS64.
Look it up
is polystyrene good?
Very useful information, will never ever ever use PVC....thanks
Glad it was helpful! :)
You need to recheck some of your info. Coins will tone unless in airtight capsule. And any plastic can and will scratch coins.
I am not saying that using mylar will guarantee that you wont damage your coins, I'm just saying it won't leach chemicals onto them.
I have mylar flips but I mostly use albums for my coins but I have a lot of everything. But not PVC.
Hey SilverPicker! This video's kinda old, what about the unplasticized vinyl (uPVC) flips they have now like the ones made by Guardhouse? Are those safe for long-term storage?
Yes, those are designed for long term storage.
@@Silverpicker thanks for the speedy reply! Maybe pin my comment as an update to this video or even make an update video if you're looking for some content to put out.
Does this hurt gold?
Thank you very much..I also seen milk spots in graded cases too. What about the plastic coin tubs that fit a whole roll?
I've got a few tubes of silver coins such as maples and eagles and they have milk spots in tubes but some were spotted when I bought them but some have changed in the tube
Pure Acetone will remove that PVC residue without effecting the metal of the coin.
Yes it will, but the problem is the coin has been corroding. After a while you notice ugly pitting in the surface. Nothing will fix that.
Do Pokémon card sleeves have pvc in them? I’m using them as homemade card holders.
To be honest, I'm not sure, but if they are the rigid ones, they're probably safe. Real coin holders are very cheap, though, so it's probably best to get the real ones. Cardboard 2x2s are like $2 for 100
wow I had a Britannia and a kangeroo in PVC , I just got rid of the flips , cheers
So glad to hear you saved them!!
subbed to you very informative thanks will be saving my newly found or bought coins in paper flips
Just finished transitioning my collection to 2x2 flips and I couldn’t be happier!
Such a good idea. I'm always curious to hear what info other collectors put on their 2x2s. What do you have on yours?
thanks dude! I subscribed!!!!
thanks this helped me so much im looking for good quality coin holders
Glad I could help!