I just got registered for the Gulf War registery last week. I've been in the VA system for awhile, but for some reason was never entered into it prior to this. As part of the screening process they asked about 20 questions about various exposures I may have encounted and I answered yes to 16 or 18 or so. Interesting video after having done that. I think you guys hit all the relevant points with regards to their questions.
Some WWII documentaries covered this and one veteran stated "No one went to the therapist, because everyone in town would know you saw the shrink and no one would hire you." Our fathers weren't made of harder stuff, they just had to bottle it up.
As an iraq war veteran its the same thing except they just assume that you automatically have ptsd just because im an iraq war veteran and it took me a long time to find employment after the army. Men like that still exist most people just choose to ignore us
@@michaelragell people who haven’t seen something first hand have a hard time understanding it. I don’t blame people so much as the military itself for failing these men.
It always floors me that it took us as humans THAT long to figure out that watching other humans ripped and torn apart in the most gruesome ways by killing machines, might lead to people being a little fucking unhinged after they're done.... Just absolute nonsense that anyone was ever called a coward for experiencing the things they did
I’ve thought of this myself before. Mostly because WW1 was the war where in seconds thousands can die in your face, or you yourself can squeeze a trigger and watch limbs scatter from dozens in a matter of seconds. Whereas knights probably took a while to fight each other before even 1 was able to kill the other. Thoughts?
@@Reformed322Knights were also generally captured if possible. They are essentially members of lesser noble houses and their ransom was worth a peasants fortune and to be able to provide this to your lord ensured a status and wealth boost. Ofcourse knights were killed in many settings but where chivalry was considered it was distasteful to.
Yh that’s a perceived bias of modern day which doesn’t actually exist. It’s been known since the beginning of wars that wars lead to some people going a bit insane. You should stop pretending that you live in the best time yet because you don’t
My uncle Larry, a Vietnam vet, when he got back from nam he lived with my grandparents. My Dad said he would wake up and find him sleeping under the table. My Grandma would tell My Dad don't wake him up just let him sleep. War is a terrible thing yet it sadly will be with us until the Lord returns.
@@MASTEROFEVIL maybe because it served as cover, and felt safer against bombs and general infrastructural damage. Of course he didnt need to deal with that anymore and tables arent the best protection, but war leaves its mark on people
A guy in my neighbourhood fought in Cambodia as part of the NVA in what would be called Vietnam's Vietnam war,he told me his entire company were either dead,lost limbs or have been admitted into mental asylums
As someone who was on the front lines of the Iraq War, I learned to compartmentalize everything. I don't even tell people I served, for me it's like talking about an ex-girlfriend, different life at a different time. So, it's always funny hearing guys at work bragging about being in the Marines, all the shirts, bumper stickers, acting tough, yet they never even seen any combat.
My grandfather was in the big one and didn't talk much about it besides some funny stories he did at camp before they shipped out. I don't blame him god knows what he'd seen
You should talk about "the dai hong dan incident". Where in 2007, a north Korean cargo ship got hijacked by Somalian pirates. And a US warship came to the rescue after hearing their distress call. Fortunately, the NK sailors took the ship back after killing 2 of the baddies, and capturing 5 more. 3 of the sailors needed medical treatment, where US Navy medical personnel helped them. When the news spread around NK, they made a VERY RARE statement, PRAISING the US navy for answering the distress call for the their sailors. Worth talking about it. I'mma keep posting this comment until I get Simple History's attention! 😅😅 Edit: Daaaang!!!! Almost 200 likes!! BREAKING NEWS: Simple History got back to me on Instagram DM, and they said they’ll do it!!!
Everyone thinks PDST is a modern soldiers problem, but the ancient Romans wouldn't allow recently returned combat vets enter the city centres or congregate in large groups
The tales of homer the Iliad and story such as odyssey depict the affect and story of problem we have today is crazy that it never changed ex: "My mother Thetis, a moving silver grace, Tells me two fates sweep me on to my death. If I stay hereand fight, I’ll never return home, But my glory will be undying forever. If I return home to my dear fatherland My glory is lost but my life will be long, And death that ends all will not catch me soon." " I say no wealth is worth my life! Not all they claim was stored in the depths of Troy, that city built on riches, in the old days of peace before the sons of Achaea came- not all the gold held fast in the Archer's rocky vaults, in Phoebus Apollo's house on Pytho's sheer cliffs! Cattle and fat sheep can all be had for the raiding, tripods all for the trading, and tawny-headed stallions. But a man's life breath cannot come back again- no raiders in force, no trading brings it back, once it slips through a man's clenched teeth."
I believe my brother's godfather, who is a Gulf War veteran, has this, though his official diagnosis is PTSD. A lot of the symptoms described are what he experienced on and off through his life since his discharge. His mother was very worried about him and sent him to my father, who is his childhood best friend, whom Godfather respected immensely. She had hoped being around my dad and us would help Godfather, and it apparently did since Godfather likes to say the children, me in particular (I was around 4 or 5) made him feel better. I guess in his mind since we were just children, we weren't a threat, but he still felt physically ill a lot. Feeling better at least mentally, he eventually took part in paramedic training and become a paramedic where he's allowed much needed access to medical care, which has helped him immensely. I couldn't tell you if he took part in the study of Gulf War Syndrome, but he has mentioned helping doctors understand conditions that effect veterans, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
My Dad was in the Gulf war. He experienced hair loss immediately, insomnia and would forget things a lot! his doctor told him it was Gulf War syndrome back in 2002 :(
That was sobering; thank you for sharing this; because of people like the team at Simple History, these soldiers will not be forgotten, and although mistreated by their peers, they stand a chance of being respected and honored by the younger generations.
If you have guilt over serving in a war, just remember this. You didn’t start the war, politicians and businessmen did. You joined to serve your country, their job is to PREVENT wars. You did your job, but they didn’t do theirs.
It’s so fucking disgusting that the true cowards that never even tried being in war would call those men that gave there souls on the battles field cowards. Truly a bunch of fools that never even tried to imagine themself there and experience what they did. To call those real warriors cowards is insane. May god bless those men that died for their people.
Watching this makes me think of my grandfather he was 19 when he was fighting at Chosin Reservoir in Korea he fought in 30 below 0 weather and his friends were dying all around him .
I was in the Persian war . I was in Desert Storm . I was a Ranger in the 90s. We had, what we thought it was just going to be several hours…. It lasted numerous days.
Awesome video!! Have often thought about the mental health of the soldiers of ANTIQUITY when everyone fought FACE-TO-FACE with swords. Their mental health problems must have been beyond belief with what they saw/did up close and in person when you had to look your enemy in the eye before you sank your sword/spear into their body and could see their life force literally leaving their body.
Casualties weren't nearly as high with physical battles, generally, unless one side fled. Not until the American civil war and ww1. Ancient soldiers would be far more worried about disease or starvation
Like the comment here: during ancient battles and medieval, casualties were never high if what it took about 5% of all the deaths until one side fled or routed. In all senses each soldier would want to survive so they would just use their shields to block and push back.
I hear you, and I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. I know people quote this a lot but know there's always someone who wants the best for you and hopes you can make it through this situation friend. I can't help with every aspect, so i'd say seeing therapist would be a start if you're able and remember it's perfectly fine to do so, it's your mental health and it's better to tackle them before than later. Other advice aside from that I can give is to take small steps at a time. Eat well, sleep well and limit exposure to negativity, it can be discouraging I tell you. Remember that what was is the past and this too shall pass, if enough work is put in. Hope this helped and we can talk more if you wish👍
I wept when I heard about the treatment of our brave boys that fought in many different wars only to come home and be seen as cowards, given inhumane treatments, or just ignored. OUR brave heroes mistreated after what they did for our country. May God welcome them as heroes and the nation beg for their forgiveness. Rest in peace soldiers.
I feel so sad, for the soldiers that had to go trough this, I am grateful that I have never experienced something like War, I pray that all the soldiers rest in peace. ❤🩹
One the first part of the video, I knew two NCO's who had Gulf War Syndrome. Both told me that the Army would not admit that their M8A1 Chemical Agent Alarms would go off, they would get into MOPP 4 and verify the presence of a nerve agent. I'm glad that the VA is finally recognizing the damage done to our soldiers by Sadam and his chemical agents. The second part - I deal with PTSD. You can get it from being in a near combat environment for an extended period. I developed mine while never being in combat but on a peace enforcement mission in Bosnia in 95-96. We were on a war / combat footing for months, sitting there with our fingers on the trigger, waiting for something to happen. It never did. We were ready for combat, even developed a QRF roster, but nothing happened. Another thing that hurt me was I did not trust those around me. I was sent from the states to Bosnia, so did not know the people in my platoon. I had been a Cavalry Scout (19D20) before becoming an MP. I knew how to fight and survive in the field but was not used to the soft life of a MP, soft as in comparison. Those NCO's around me were trying to take my stripes and get rid of me. They failed, but the case of Angina, lack of trust of my fellow soldiers, and the stresses put on me, I came home completely grey haired, nightmares, flashbacks, and broken. Help from the VA after getting chaptered out is still helping to turn my life around. I mention this not for sympathy but to put out a message to others who might be like me that there is help out there.
Thank you for making this video available. I feel so alone with these issues and so many people believe I’m faking this medical situation … there’s so many health complications that I stay home a lot.
My father fought in the Gulf war, named OP. Granby by the British. He was in the 27th regt, Royal Corps of Transport; One of the first regiments heading into Kuwait through Saudi Arabia. He once told me before the entering Iraqi controlled Kuwait that the British soldiers had to take experimental drugs as a precaution against possible chemical weapons that Iraq might use, he mentioned one of the names for the drug was a botulism inoculation. He was considered lucky, only having mild symptoms having headaches and mild ptsd, also having a child (me) without any serious physical or mental effects, some soldiers had children which are disabled or handicapped either by mental and/or physical anomalies.
I worked with two Marine vets that fought at all the vacation spots in the Pacific during WWII. One of them had been a Wind talker. When he got home tribe elders were there to meet him and other vets. The young men were told they had been killing and fighting for so long that they weren't human beings anymore. They went out into the desert outside Phoenix, Az. They lived the old ways for many months. Some returning vets had scared children and dogs. Women were also afraid of these men. When my Dad ccame back from Vietnam he was broken. He had set children on fire. Bombed and burned towns. Killed everything that breathed. The Army wanted him to participate in a program that would use LSD to help his "problem". I think what the Native Americans did for their vets was a great help for these men. We have the VA but a lot of homeless are veterans. Sad.
There is so much industrial waste on the battlefield in general, I think it be almost impossible to pin this down to a single cause. The government research will always muddy the results…
In 1985 a known psychologist once said about Vietnam veterans (used in a famous song) "10 after comming home, almost 800.000 men are still fighting the Vietnam war"
Mental health services need to be increased, as someone who has served as religious program specialist in navy. My brother and sister Marines, sailors some were afraid to get help, don’t be afraid the biggest strength is getting help, it’s no weakness, if you need help please reach out
My dad was in desert storm mostly as a gunner on helicopters he passed 4 years ago due to cancer Ik he got the cancer from this war and with the job he did but the government just denied everything rip to him short war but long long time consequences
What’s a little messed to me is the movie, Saving Private Ryan, is seen as the best military and/or ww2 movie and doesn’t have a single black person in it. Took me until late 20’s and after watching it dozens of times did I notice.
@@Reformed322the race of the characters in the film was not an issue then and it should be now. The film is so beloved because it’s a good narrative first and foremost.
@@gamingforever9121The race of the characters shouldn't matter to begin with. Especially during that time blacks and whites served in separate unites for the majority of the time with some exceptions where it was needed.
24 : 36 In France, after WW1, the Parliament was nicknamed "la chambre bleu-horizon" (The blue-horizon chamber), referring to French uniforms's color, because its main political forces had been elected to obtain what the veterans had fought for.
My grandfather talked about how his father who fought in WWI with the NZ army would come home and that he would be "f*cking terrified of him". The mans body was riddled with shrapnel and mustard gas had an effect on him. He would come home from work and my grandfather would run to hide under his bed. His father walked in one time and screamed "Where are you?!". When he found my grandfather he pulled him out from under the bed and beat him horribly. His father suffered from heavy PTSD and combat fatigue. Sadly, my grandfather also developed PTSD after his time in Vietnam. War is a horrible thing.
Many clinicians in the Department of Veterans Affairs view “Gulf War Syndrome “ as a “myth” and Veterans like myself who suffer from Gulf War Illnesses as “compensation seekers”.
I was confused as to why the USA, UK and other western nations were getting involved to liberate Kuwait from Iraq, until I heard the words "oil fields" then it all made sense
In a Deltarune fanfic I'm writing, we find out that Susie's dad Jonah Rexman was in the Iraq war, and ended up getting his middle finger shot off. But, rather than being traumatized by the experience, the opposite happens. He develops a taste for violence, to the point of believing WWIII is just around the corner, and prepping Susie for it her whole life through militaristic training.
My aunt Nancy said there was abuse in the household from her dad who served through ww2. She said "he had alot of war stories he didn't want to talk about them per say"
WWI had already alot of casualties as is, to think that people suffering from shell shock got shot by their own friends, companies, sergaents, etc is simply a disgrace and i hope history never repeats itself both for the fact that i hope we never get a war this big again, and people suffering from the illness do NOT get shot by their comrades and can get the proper treatment they deserve for it. People with shell shock are NOT cowards, they are as much of a hero as the person standing next to them on the battlefield. There's no guessing what you, or i will do or how we would act when there's 1000's of bombs flying around and landing next to us. I am an ex-sniper in the Belgian army that served in Syria, and although i served my country it was a very different experience to what it would have been in WW1 & WW2. To every veteran reading my comment: You're a hero and i love you! Take care of yourself, and if you feel like you're not doing ok, ask for help and go to a doctor! I pray for peace in the world every day so that our children do not have to experience a war!🤞 🙏
War in ukraine vet here born in America but fought for Ukraine i am just happy to be alive honestly maybe the emotional part hasnt come fully yet but knowing i took part on the right side of history gives me comfort when the demons attack my brain especially when i am alone it truly Helps to be able to reaffirm i went through what i went through for the right reasons
Unsurprising that you have reading comprehension issues along with those other low-information losers who liked your post. He was "BORN IN AMERICA". How is the Ukraine "his country"? @@amuroray9115
@@amuroray9115 Growing up exposed to American propaganda, at best - listening only one side in the conflict located on the other continent, he claims to know which side is right??
It's so disgusting. Such a god damn shame at how long it took for modern militaries to fundamentally understand the stressors of combat and war. And every step taken 12 were stepped back. Today, as a former Hospital Corpsman with the US Navy, and a former employee of the VA, we have made some significant strides in mental health treatment, but there is still so much we need to do. Veterans today stand on the shoulders of millions, MILLIONS who suffered so we can have even a shred of normalcy after coming home.
Considering the first Gulf War was ridiculously short and didn't subject solders to very long term stress like both world wars and the Vietnam war I have a hard time thinking it's anything mental. That's not to say that even during the short war that soliders weren't placed under am enormous amount of stress, I'm just saying that the vast majority of United States soldiers have the mental fortitude to weather such sn endeavor. I eas a soldier myself. I began my basic training at Fort Knox Kentucky in January of 2001. Helluva a time to join right?
Wonder how did soldiers in ancient times dealt with PTSD, since warfare was way more brutal back then, there is little reference to "it" in ancient sources.
Defeated soldiers were simply traded as slaves unless they resisted: then they were killed, and only their families were "saved" and forced to become slaves. PTSD 😄😂
it' was way more evil tho, before 19th century, most army usually plunder into their enemy territories, burning town and villages and taking food supplies and loot
@worfoz also Romans or Greeks didn't saw their friends get blown up to pieces or turned into pink clouds, never had to encounter mine fields, ieds or modern flamethrowers and incendiary ordnance or get bombarded for days or witnessed killing in industrial scale, neither survived to a fucking nuke but hey modern ptsd is a joke
Being slightly different often is like fighting a battle. And you're still different from soldiers with their PTSD, and that is because you're a unique human being, just like everyone else. That's life: problems are normal, happiness is rare.
I just got registered for the Gulf War registery last week. I've been in the VA system for awhile, but for some reason was never entered into it prior to this. As part of the screening process they asked about 20 questions about various exposures I may have encounted and I answered yes to 16 or 18 or so. Interesting video after having done that. I think you guys hit all the relevant points with regards to their questions. Oh, yeah. Chronic pain, sinusitis, are a couple of my ailments and now wonder about so much more after all of the answers i gave. 50% disabled rating now after Gulf War, and then OIF later in life. Hoorah!
Its weird being suggested video right after watching a documentary about DU rounds. Well must be the algorithm. Anyway, I wish all the veterans of the Gulf War relief and hopefully cure from this problem. Thank you for your service
Just imagine what mental issues soldiers endured during the medieval time. Cutting ppl heads off and having to stab someone to death had to weigh heavy on them
O M G Seriously I drop things just like the dude in beginning of clip. I have very peculiar issues since coming back from Iraq. I’m sick all the time; I get terrible shakes during anxiety that it makes my bones hurt. Headache, double vision when tired. I used to have uncontrollable rage. I am Iraq 08-09; chest pains.
I think what many dont consider is that nowadays you have 4k shots of full battles etc. and everyone gets an insight how crazy this all is.. but 110years back, ppl where just coping and stupid So sad for the brave and honorful men who fought for those cowards who later laughed at them.. horrible
PTSD among war veterans from WW1 all the way to today are so well documented and easily witnessed, imagine the PTSD form soldiers from wars before then. Battles and wars from the ancient days all the way to the Boxer Rebellion; how would Roman Centurions recover after witnessing their comrades being dismembered and killed right in front of them, or mercenaries in the Hundred Years War, or soldiers in the Boxer Rebellion.
I wonder if there's a diffrent in the mental health of soldier who fight for the right cause(like defending their country), and those who fight for oil (unknowingly). Like the soldier who attack other country will surely see women and children get killed by their army, while the other one dont.
Im honestly not the sharpest tool in the shed but being around millions of gallons of burning oil, might make you sick. Why the government didnt take care of these people is beyond me. They have lost all legitimacy as a good government that cares at all for its citizens, veteran or not.
@@statendrei5 No but leaving vietnam veterans to rot due to agent orange exposure, or gulf sickness is ridiculous. Also its not like they actually use our taxx dollars wisely. You really didnt read my comment did you?
Simple History can you do a Simple History video on why a Monarch's role and duties are way more stressful, harder and not as fun and glamorous as people think and why they have such massive responsibilities.
In relation to the video, what about the late 60s and early to mid 70s when it came to the mental health of those who returned from the Vietnam war? How did things that were common amongst the time period such as the opinions and attitudes of the society and it's youth towards the decision to get involved in the conflict in the first place, as well as the lifestyles of drinking and substance abuse and partying that became prevalent amongst the youth in that time period on top of any other prevalent societal and environmental factors, have an impacting effect on Surviving Vietnam Veterans at the time when they returned in addition to whatever existing forms of PTSD or other trauma they suffered as a direct result of being involved in the war?
To die in war is one thing, but to survive it is quite another. One man said that only the dead have seen the end of war, and that is correct, no matter how hackneyed the sentiment may be. Because those who survive the war are left with the task of making sense of what happened. Otherwise, it is just an empty horror.
you guys should do one of these videos on people who were such peoples of governments that were forced into the situation and turned them medical experiments in the modern day and used to your post Cold War dictatorships as being adoped from romania born 1994
It is not only soldiers who suffer from PTSD. As the name suggests: Post Trauma. Rescue workers, police and all people who have experienced trauma as a result of an accident or violence can suffer from it. This is psychological, not biological!
Depleted Uranium doesn't even make sense. By definition depleted uranium is NOT radioactive. Depleted is the opposite of enriched. Since the stable form of Uranium, U-238, isn't radioactive it doesn't make sense to blame it on radiation from the shells & armor plates, unless they were for some reason actually not completely depleted which would be a very expensive and very stupid mistake to make and an big was issue For those wondering "well why would they want to use deplete uranium to make shells if it's not radioactive?" Well that is because uranium is extremely dense. Meaning the shell weighs more for it's size compared to other shells giving it more destructive power.
I understand that things are difficult for everybody. Every single human fights their own battles and has their own "trauma." What irks me, is the use of the word trauma. Trauma is meant for r*pe and assault victims, soldiers for more reasons that are stated in this video. Language is a powerful tool. It's been continually watered down over the years and is currently even being hijacked and warped for political gain. I won't go on a long tangent, but my point is, Karen does NOT HAVE TRAUMA FROM STARBUCKS RUNNING OUT OF PUMPKIN SPICE LATTES!
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"I can't, i'm poor"
Same
I just got registered for the Gulf War registery last week. I've been in the VA system for awhile, but for some reason was never entered into it prior to this. As part of the screening process they asked about 20 questions about various exposures I may have encounted and I answered yes to 16 or 18 or so. Interesting video after having done that. I think you guys hit all the relevant points with regards to their questions.
@@infurnius9449get oiled up
poor veterans... 😞
Some WWII documentaries covered this and one veteran stated "No one went to the therapist, because everyone in town would know you saw the shrink and no one would hire you."
Our fathers weren't made of harder stuff, they just had to bottle it up.
As an iraq war veteran its the same thing except they just assume that you automatically have ptsd just because im an iraq war veteran and it took me a long time to find employment after the army. Men like that still exist most people just choose to ignore us
@@mickey875I don’t personally I enjoy the company of veterans they tend to have a great sense of humor.
And yet we blamed them when they turned all too often to the bottle for assistance
@@michaelragell people who haven’t seen something first hand have a hard time understanding it. I don’t blame people so much as the military itself for failing these men.
Why do you think so many of these veterans drank after the war? This is exactly why they did.
It always floors me that it took us as humans THAT long to figure out that watching other humans ripped and torn apart in the most gruesome ways by killing machines, might lead to people being a little fucking unhinged after they're done.... Just absolute nonsense that anyone was ever called a coward for experiencing the things they did
I think Medieval knights had a better understanding.
I’ve thought of this myself before. Mostly because WW1 was the war where in seconds thousands can die in your face, or you yourself can squeeze a trigger and watch limbs scatter from dozens in a matter of seconds. Whereas knights probably took a while to fight each other before even 1 was able to kill the other. Thoughts?
@@Reformed322Knights were also generally captured if possible. They are essentially members of lesser noble houses and their ransom was worth a peasants fortune and to be able to provide this to your lord ensured a status and wealth boost. Ofcourse knights were killed in many settings but where chivalry was considered it was distasteful to.
war is a terrible experience for those that have fought before
Yh that’s a perceived bias of modern day which doesn’t actually exist.
It’s been known since the beginning of wars that wars lead to some people going a bit insane.
You should stop pretending that you live in the best time yet because you don’t
I felt really sorry for those soldiers what they went through. Respect to all soldiers.
My uncle Larry, a Vietnam vet, when he got back from nam he lived with my grandparents. My Dad said he would wake up and find him sleeping under the table. My Grandma would tell My Dad don't wake him up just let him sleep. War is a terrible thing yet it sadly will be with us until the Lord returns.
Why the table?
@@MASTEROFEVIL maybe because it served as cover, and felt safer against bombs and general infrastructural damage. Of course he didnt need to deal with that anymore and tables arent the best protection, but war leaves its mark on people
@@ZweiHandsome Mentally a part of you never comes home after it's over
A guy in my neighbourhood fought in Cambodia as part of the NVA in what would be called Vietnam's Vietnam war,he told me his entire company were either dead,lost limbs or have been admitted into mental asylums
No lord returnintg goofy
As someone who was on the front lines of the Iraq War, I learned to compartmentalize everything. I don't even tell people I served, for me it's like talking about an ex-girlfriend, different life at a different time. So, it's always funny hearing guys at work bragging about being in the Marines, all the shirts, bumper stickers, acting tough, yet they never even seen any combat.
Once those young marines see war they wish they never had. No one is made for war not even the toughest person.
Same man
My grandfather was in the big one and didn't talk much about it besides some funny stories he did at camp before they shipped out. I don't blame him god knows what he'd seen
Thx for service
You are the real deal and badass
The initial build up in 1990 was Desert SHIELD. The start of the air strikes was Desert STORM. The ground war was Desert SABRE.
My dad was on a carrier for Storm and Shield, he later also took part on another carrier for Iraqi Freedom
It is not that important TBH
@@BrateTebra123It is weirdo
The whole thing was desert bullshit
And together they formed desert DESASTER
You should talk about "the dai hong dan incident". Where in 2007, a north Korean cargo ship got hijacked by Somalian pirates. And a US warship came to the rescue after hearing their distress call. Fortunately, the NK sailors took the ship back after killing 2 of the baddies, and capturing 5 more. 3 of the sailors needed medical treatment, where US Navy medical personnel helped them. When the news spread around NK, they made a VERY RARE statement, PRAISING the US navy for answering the distress call for the their sailors. Worth talking about it.
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I miss 2007
Everyone thinks PDST is a modern soldiers problem, but the ancient Romans wouldn't allow recently returned combat vets enter the city centres or congregate in large groups
The tales of homer the Iliad and story such as odyssey depict the affect and story of problem we have today is crazy that it never changed ex: "My mother Thetis, a moving silver grace, Tells me two fates sweep me on to my death. If I stay hereand fight, I’ll never return home, But my glory will be undying forever. If I return home to my dear fatherland My glory is lost but my life will be long, And death that ends all will not catch me soon." " I say no wealth is worth my life! Not all they claim
was stored in the depths of Troy, that city built on riches,
in the old days of peace before the sons of Achaea came-
not all the gold held fast in the Archer's rocky vaults,
in Phoebus Apollo's house on Pytho's sheer cliffs!
Cattle and fat sheep can all be had for the raiding,
tripods all for the trading, and tawny-headed stallions.
But a man's life breath cannot come back again-
no raiders in force, no trading brings it back,
once it slips through a man's clenched teeth."
I believe my brother's godfather, who is a Gulf War veteran, has this, though his official diagnosis is PTSD. A lot of the symptoms described are what he experienced on and off through his life since his discharge. His mother was very worried about him and sent him to my father, who is his childhood best friend, whom Godfather respected immensely. She had hoped being around my dad and us would help Godfather, and it apparently did since Godfather likes to say the children, me in particular (I was around 4 or 5) made him feel better. I guess in his mind since we were just children, we weren't a threat, but he still felt physically ill a lot. Feeling better at least mentally, he eventually took part in paramedic training and become a paramedic where he's allowed much needed access to medical care, which has helped him immensely.
I couldn't tell you if he took part in the study of Gulf War Syndrome, but he has mentioned helping doctors understand conditions that effect veterans, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
“You think I haven’t heard of things before? You’re just a bully who’s too scared to go to war.” Freddie Mercury
Honestly one of the hardest hitting lines in that battle
So true.
"You had a hit song called 'My Way', but someone else wrote it. You're the least talented rat in your whole pack of rodents!"
You had a hit song called "My Way", but someone else wrote it
Wasn't he talking to Sinatra? Talk about an early fake celebrity lol
My Dad was in the Gulf war. He experienced hair loss immediately, insomnia and would forget things a lot! his doctor told him it was Gulf War syndrome back in 2002 :(
That was sobering; thank you for sharing this; because of people like the team at Simple History, these soldiers will not be forgotten, and although mistreated by their peers, they stand a chance of being respected and honored by the younger generations.
PTSD also affect ordinary civilians caught up in the war, and partisans as well
If you have guilt over serving in a war, just remember this. You didn’t start the war, politicians and businessmen did. You joined to serve your country, their job is to PREVENT wars. You did your job, but they didn’t do theirs.
that's deep
But you still decided to join. If you werent drafted and thus forced, you are a murderer.
Thank you for this. ❤
That doesn't help the guilt dude...
"Just following orders"
It’s so fucking disgusting that the true cowards that never even tried being in war would call those men that gave there souls on the battles field cowards. Truly a bunch of fools that never even tried to imagine themself there and experience what they did. To call those real warriors cowards is insane. May god bless those men that died for their people.
In gulf war and iraq They didnt died for their people
All women felt that way and most now act that way too. Still immune to the draft though.
Yeah it's sickening plus I know a crack addict that was a Vietnam veteran .....he had to get on drugs
Watching this makes me think of my grandfather he was 19 when he was fighting at Chosin Reservoir in Korea he fought in 30 below 0 weather and his friends were dying all around him .
The Frozen Chosin.
All the respect to your grandfather.
Semper Fi.
Respect older generation, who had fighting for their nation and for their later generation.
I was in the Persian war . I was in Desert Storm . I was a Ranger in the 90s. We had, what we thought it was just going to be several hours…. It lasted numerous days.
Thank you for your service
@@jatoraavamiro thank you. I’m still in. I’m in the Gard. I am still in when they need something done. I’m not Rambo . 😝.
@@maestromike91971I just do you have any experience any pstd
How long did it take u to recover mentally after the war?
Awesome video!! Have often thought about the mental health of the soldiers of ANTIQUITY when everyone fought FACE-TO-FACE with swords. Their mental health problems must have been beyond belief with what they saw/did up close and in person when you had to look your enemy in the eye before you sank your sword/spear into their body and could see their life force literally leaving their body.
Casualties weren't nearly as high with physical battles, generally, unless one side fled. Not until the American civil war and ww1.
Ancient soldiers would be far more worried about disease or starvation
Like the comment here: during ancient battles and medieval, casualties were never high if what it took about 5% of all the deaths until one side fled or routed. In all senses each soldier would want to survive so they would just use their shields to block and push back.
Bro my metal health... from the pandemic, being homeless, dumped and surrounded by all this division is maddening enough.
I hear you, and I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. I know people quote this a lot but know there's always someone who wants the best for you and hopes you can make it through this situation friend.
I can't help with every aspect, so i'd say seeing therapist would be a start if you're able and remember it's perfectly fine to do so, it's your mental health and it's better to tackle them before than later.
Other advice aside from that I can give is to take small steps at a time. Eat well, sleep well and limit exposure to negativity, it can be discouraging I tell you.
Remember that what was is the past and this too shall pass, if enough work is put in.
Hope this helped and we can talk more if you wish👍
@@aster7420hell yes let’s start a mental health help group
Hope you good bro
I wept when I heard about the treatment of our brave boys that fought in many different wars only to come home and be seen as cowards, given inhumane treatments, or just ignored. OUR brave heroes mistreated after what they did for our country. May God welcome them as heroes and the nation beg for their forgiveness. Rest in peace soldiers.
Thank you for this.
I feel so sad, for the soldiers that had to go trough this, I am grateful that I have never experienced something like War, I pray that all the soldiers rest in peace. ❤🩹
The wounds to your body heal but the wounds to the soul will never heal
Keep up the good content, your channel is incredible!
I like these videos investigating the more serious aspects of war. Keep up the high quality content!
War....war never changes.
war always changes
Yep
@@Fightingvaultboy War has changed.
@@usamazahid3882 The tactics do. The reasons for war never do.
And ides
The case of PTSD is a prime example of why you should listen to the people who know what they’re doing and not make assumptions
Salute to all soldiers for everything they do
One the first part of the video, I knew two NCO's who had Gulf War Syndrome. Both told me that the Army would not admit that their M8A1 Chemical Agent Alarms would go off, they would get into MOPP 4 and verify the presence of a nerve agent. I'm glad that the VA is finally recognizing the damage done to our soldiers by Sadam and his chemical agents.
The second part - I deal with PTSD. You can get it from being in a near combat environment for an extended period. I developed mine while never being in combat but on a peace enforcement mission in Bosnia in 95-96. We were on a war / combat footing for months, sitting there with our fingers on the trigger, waiting for something to happen. It never did. We were ready for combat, even developed a QRF roster, but nothing happened. Another thing that hurt me was I did not trust those around me. I was sent from the states to Bosnia, so did not know the people in my platoon. I had been a Cavalry Scout (19D20) before becoming an MP. I knew how to fight and survive in the field but was not used to the soft life of a MP, soft as in comparison. Those NCO's around me were trying to take my stripes and get rid of me. They failed, but the case of Angina, lack of trust of my fellow soldiers, and the stresses put on me, I came home completely grey haired, nightmares, flashbacks, and broken. Help from the VA after getting chaptered out is still helping to turn my life around. I mention this not for sympathy but to put out a message to others who might be like me that there is help out there.
Thank you for making this video available. I feel so alone with these issues and so many people believe I’m faking this medical situation … there’s so many health complications that I stay home a lot.
My father fought in the Gulf war, named OP. Granby by the British. He was in the 27th regt, Royal Corps of Transport; One of the first regiments heading into Kuwait through Saudi Arabia. He once told me before the entering Iraqi controlled Kuwait that the British soldiers had to take experimental drugs as a precaution against possible chemical weapons that Iraq might use, he mentioned one of the names for the drug was a botulism inoculation. He was considered lucky, only having mild symptoms having headaches and mild ptsd, also having a child (me) without any serious physical or mental effects, some soldiers had children which are disabled or handicapped either by mental and/or physical anomalies.
I worked with two Marine vets that fought at all the vacation spots in the Pacific during WWII. One of them had been a Wind talker. When he got home tribe elders were there to meet him and other vets. The young men were told they had been killing and fighting for so long that they weren't human beings anymore. They went out into the desert outside Phoenix, Az. They lived the old ways for many months. Some returning vets had scared children and dogs. Women were also afraid of these men. When my Dad ccame back from Vietnam he was broken. He had set children on fire. Bombed and burned towns. Killed everything that breathed. The Army wanted him to participate in a program that would use LSD to help his "problem". I think what the Native Americans did for their vets was a great help for these men. We have the VA but a lot of homeless are veterans. Sad.
14:05 aint no way they did the shell shocked drawing
It was worse in Vietnam ,after the war I saw friends go crazy ,comit suiside end up in mental hospital,still feel the blasts in my head
I remember when gulf war veterans were young. I was a little boy and they were in their twenties
There is so much industrial waste on the battlefield in general, I think it be almost impossible to pin this down to a single cause. The government research will always muddy the results…
In 1985 a known psychologist once said about Vietnam veterans (used in a famous song) "10 after comming home, almost 800.000 men are still fighting the Vietnam war"
One of my teachers fought in desert storm eith the Egyptian army
Mental health services need to be increased, as someone who has served as religious program specialist in navy. My brother and sister Marines, sailors some were afraid to get help, don’t be afraid the biggest strength is getting help, it’s no weakness, if you need help please reach out
My dad was in desert storm mostly as a gunner on helicopters he passed 4 years ago due to cancer Ik he got the cancer from this war and with the job he did but the government just denied everything rip to him short war but long long time consequences
19:02 What is that piano piece called? It is so beautiful.
My grandfather used to have panic attacks because of PTSD from WWII. He always used to say the military is no place for a black man.
Yeah I’m black at that time they thought black men weren’t fit enough for battle
What’s a little messed to me is the movie, Saving Private Ryan, is seen as the best military and/or ww2 movie and doesn’t have a single black person in it. Took me until late 20’s and after watching it dozens of times did I notice.
@@Reformed322the race of the characters in the film was not an issue then and it should be now. The film is so beloved because it’s a good narrative first and foremost.
@@gamingforever9121The race of the characters shouldn't matter to begin with. Especially during that time blacks and whites served in separate unites for the majority of the time with some exceptions where it was needed.
@@Reformed322As far as I'm aware, regiments were racially segregated in WW2 so Saving Private Rian is simply portraying how it would have been.
That’s weird, I have those 4 symptoms and I wasn’t even alive during those days. (Depression, forgetfulness, loss of focus, and insomnia)
Respect for all war veterans.
God bless all combat veterans, I all my brothers and sisters get the mental help the need
The security guard at my school was in desert storm.
All negative life events can lead to trauma and mental disorders
Great narrator by the way.
Дякую за відео!
24 : 36 In France, after WW1, the Parliament was nicknamed "la chambre bleu-horizon" (The blue-horizon chamber), referring to French uniforms's color, because its main political forces had been elected to obtain what the veterans had fought for.
My grandfather talked about how his father who fought in WWI with the NZ army would come home and that he would be "f*cking terrified of him". The mans body was riddled with shrapnel and mustard gas had an effect on him. He would come home from work and my grandfather would run to hide under his bed. His father walked in one time and screamed "Where are you?!". When he found my grandfather he pulled him out from under the bed and beat him horribly. His father suffered from heavy PTSD and combat fatigue. Sadly, my grandfather also developed PTSD after his time in Vietnam. War is a horrible thing.
Very interesting video, I haven't even heard any of this before, pretty informative video
Many clinicians in the Department of Veterans Affairs view “Gulf War Syndrome “ as a “myth” and Veterans like myself who suffer from Gulf War Illnesses as “compensation seekers”.
I think gulf war syndrome was most likely caused by the burning of oil wells and other toxic chemical processes that occurred in the battlefields.
I was confused as to why the USA, UK and other western nations were getting involved to liberate Kuwait from Iraq, until I heard the words "oil fields" then it all made sense
So what, I'd rather take the last drop of oil then to be the first without it
Control of oil fields isn't a trivial thing.
@@tinman3586 not at all
In a Deltarune fanfic I'm writing, we find out that Susie's dad Jonah Rexman was in the Iraq war, and ended up getting his middle finger shot off. But, rather than being traumatized by the experience, the opposite happens. He develops a taste for violence, to the point of believing WWIII is just around the corner, and prepping Susie for it her whole life through militaristic training.
My aunt Nancy said there was abuse in the household from her dad who served through ww2. She said "he had alot of war stories he didn't want to talk about them per say"
WWI had already alot of casualties as is, to think that people suffering from shell shock got shot by their own friends, companies, sergaents, etc is simply a disgrace and i hope history never repeats itself both for the fact that i hope we never get a war this big again, and people suffering from the illness do NOT get shot by their comrades and can get the proper treatment they deserve for it. People with shell shock are NOT cowards, they are as much of a hero as the person standing next to them on the battlefield. There's no guessing what you, or i will do or how we would act when there's 1000's of bombs flying around and landing next to us. I am an ex-sniper in the Belgian army that served in Syria, and although i served my country it was a very different experience to what it would have been in WW1 & WW2. To every veteran reading my comment: You're a hero and i love you! Take care of yourself, and if you feel like you're not doing ok, ask for help and go to a doctor! I pray for peace in the world every day so that our children do not have to experience a war!🤞 🙏
War in ukraine vet here born in America but fought for Ukraine i am just happy to be alive honestly maybe the emotional part hasnt come fully yet but knowing i took part on the right side of history gives me comfort when the demons attack my brain especially when i am alone it truly
Helps to be able to reaffirm i went through what i went through for the right reasons
Right side of a history..lol
@@ChobeVelyasha considering he was defending his country from invading Russians then yes. He definitely fought on the right side of history lol.
Unsurprising that you have reading comprehension issues along with those other low-information losers who liked your post.
He was "BORN IN AMERICA". How is the Ukraine "his country"? @@amuroray9115
Congrats on being a War Whore for politicians and war profiteers who couldn't care less about you.
@@amuroray9115
Growing up exposed to American propaganda, at best - listening only one side in the conflict located on the other continent, he claims to know which side is right??
The old had their money increased while the young had their life decreased.
when i saw the name of the video without the thumbnail loading in i thought they were talking about TF2
It's so disgusting. Such a god damn shame at how long it took for modern militaries to fundamentally understand the stressors of combat and war. And every step taken 12 were stepped back. Today, as a former Hospital Corpsman with the US Navy, and a former employee of the VA, we have made some significant strides in mental health treatment, but there is still so much we need to do. Veterans today stand on the shoulders of millions, MILLIONS who suffered so we can have even a shred of normalcy after coming home.
Considering the first Gulf War was ridiculously short and didn't subject solders to very long term stress like both world wars and the Vietnam war I have a hard time thinking it's anything mental. That's not to say that even during the short war that soliders weren't placed under am enormous amount of stress, I'm just saying that the vast majority of United States soldiers have the mental fortitude to weather such sn endeavor. I eas a soldier myself. I began my basic training at Fort Knox Kentucky in January of 2001. Helluva a time to join right?
Wonder how did soldiers in ancient times dealt with PTSD, since warfare was way more brutal back then, there is little reference to "it" in ancient sources.
Defeated soldiers were simply traded as slaves unless they resisted: then they were killed, and only their families were "saved" and forced to become slaves.
PTSD 😄😂
it' was way more evil tho, before 19th century, most army usually plunder into their enemy territories, burning town and villages and taking food supplies and loot
@worfoz also Romans or Greeks didn't saw their friends get blown up to pieces or turned into pink clouds, never had to encounter mine fields, ieds or modern flamethrowers and incendiary ordnance or get bombarded for days or witnessed killing in industrial scale, neither survived to a fucking nuke but hey modern ptsd is a joke
'Depression, forgetfulness, loss of focus, insomnia.'
Here's me being born with Autism ADHD and epilepsy....
Being slightly different often is like fighting a battle.
And you're still different from soldiers with their PTSD, and that is because you're a unique human being, just like everyone else.
That's life: problems are normal, happiness is rare.
i love ur videos 💕💕
I've always been interested and wondering a lot about this
I just got registered for the Gulf War registery last week. I've been in the VA system for awhile, but for some reason was never entered into it prior to this. As part of the screening process they asked about 20 questions about various exposures I may have encounted and I answered yes to 16 or 18 or so. Interesting video after having done that. I think you guys hit all the relevant points with regards to their questions. Oh, yeah. Chronic pain, sinusitis, are a couple of my ailments and now wonder about so much more after all of the answers i gave. 50% disabled rating now after Gulf War, and then OIF later in life. Hoorah!
File for an increase %, brother.
Semper Fi
War may be scary, that's true, but not only that, it also traumatizes every good soldier's life, their mental health and even suffering from PTSD
Its weird being suggested video right after watching a documentary about DU rounds. Well must be the algorithm.
Anyway, I wish all the veterans of the Gulf War relief and hopefully cure from this problem. Thank you for your service
1:15 actually it was operation desert shield
Just imagine what mental issues soldiers endured during the medieval time. Cutting ppl heads off and having to stab someone to death had to weigh heavy on them
O M G
Seriously I drop things just like the dude in beginning of clip.
I have very peculiar issues since coming back from Iraq. I’m sick all the time; I get terrible shakes during anxiety that it makes my bones hurt. Headache, double vision when tired.
I used to have uncontrollable rage. I am Iraq 08-09; chest pains.
Deet being able to degrade plastic is actually crazy
No cap it hurt to watch real time i have a grandfather who served 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The other three symptoms are other depression symptoms in gulf war syndrome
I think what many dont consider is that nowadays you have 4k shots of full battles etc. and everyone gets an insight how crazy this all is.. but 110years back, ppl where just coping and stupid
So sad for the brave and honorful men who fought for those cowards who later laughed at them.. horrible
PTSD among war veterans from WW1 all the way to today are so well documented and easily witnessed, imagine the PTSD form soldiers from wars before then. Battles and wars from the ancient days all the way to the Boxer Rebellion; how would Roman Centurions recover after witnessing their comrades being dismembered and killed right in front of them, or mercenaries in the Hundred Years War, or soldiers in the Boxer Rebellion.
I wonder if there's a diffrent in the mental health of soldier who fight for the right cause(like defending their country), and those who fight for oil (unknowingly). Like the soldier who attack other country will surely see women and children get killed by their army, while the other one dont.
Im honestly not the sharpest tool in the shed but being around millions of gallons of burning oil, might make you sick. Why the government didnt take care of these people is beyond me. They have lost all legitimacy as a good government that cares at all for its citizens, veteran or not.
@@statendrei5 No but leaving vietnam veterans to rot due to agent orange exposure, or gulf sickness is ridiculous. Also its not like they actually use our taxx dollars wisely. You really didnt read my comment did you?
@@statendrei5 Waste our tax dollars?
6:07 I like how they all use the same unwashed needle XD sharing needles is caring I guess
Very good job dudes!! Congratulations 999.79% yo. Splendid! War....war never changes.
Simple History can you do a Simple History video on why a Monarch's role and duties are way more stressful, harder and not as fun and glamorous as people think and why they have such massive responsibilities.
In relation to the video, what about the late 60s and early to mid 70s when it came to the mental health of those who returned from the Vietnam war? How did things that were common amongst the time period such as the opinions and attitudes of the society and it's youth towards the decision to get involved in the conflict in the first place, as well as the lifestyles of drinking and substance abuse and partying that became prevalent amongst the youth in that time period on top of any other prevalent societal and environmental factors, have an impacting effect on Surviving Vietnam Veterans at the time when they returned in addition to whatever existing forms of PTSD or other trauma they suffered as a direct result of being involved in the war?
To die in war is one thing, but to survive it is quite another. One man said that only the dead have seen the end of war, and that is correct, no matter how hackneyed the sentiment may be. Because those who survive the war are left with the task of making sense of what happened. Otherwise, it is just an empty horror.
2:59 i come from denmark. Just as a side note i felt obliged to say after hearing den,ark mentioned!,,,,,,,,,,
2:58!
you guys should do one of these videos on people who were such peoples of governments that were forced into the situation and turned them medical experiments in the modern day and used to your post Cold War dictatorships as being adoped from romania born 1994
“I was an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee”
- Abe Lincoln
Did you not learn to fast travel 😂
Did you not learn to fast travel 😂
War never changes
That one commenter who thinks Simple History somehow glorifies war is gonna be seething at this
It is not only soldiers who suffer from PTSD. As the name suggests: Post Trauma. Rescue workers, police and all people who have experienced trauma as a result of an accident or violence can suffer from it. This is psychological, not biological!
While this is a serious topic, the man with big eyes is a cute drawing with his big eyes and small mouth
Depleted Uranium doesn't even make sense. By definition depleted uranium is NOT radioactive. Depleted is the opposite of enriched. Since the stable form of Uranium, U-238, isn't radioactive it doesn't make sense to blame it on radiation from the shells & armor plates, unless they were for some reason actually not completely depleted which would be a very expensive and very stupid mistake to make and an big was issue
For those wondering "well why would they want to use deplete uranium to make shells if it's not radioactive?" Well that is because uranium is extremely dense. Meaning the shell weighs more for it's size compared to other shells giving it more destructive power.
I understand that things are difficult for everybody. Every single human fights their own battles and has their own "trauma." What irks me, is the use of the word trauma. Trauma is meant for r*pe and assault victims, soldiers for more reasons that are stated in this video. Language is a powerful tool. It's been continually watered down over the years and is currently even being hijacked and warped for political gain. I won't go on a long tangent, but my point is, Karen does NOT HAVE TRAUMA FROM STARBUCKS RUNNING OUT OF PUMPKIN SPICE LATTES!
just drink some water, take some pills and walk it off soldier!
Can you make a video on operation meghdoot
India captures Siachen glacier
good job telling me this information 🤓
Please Can you make the video about PROJECT AZORIAN ?