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  • Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez go in-depth on Vince McMahon's resignation from WWE/TKO on Friday following disturbing new allegations in a lawsuit.
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  • @rosspearman2808
    @rosspearman2808 6 месяцев назад +214

    Macho Man getting revenge through Slim Jim. Poetic justice

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 6 месяцев назад +20

      Ooooh yeeeaah!!

    • @williamanthony175
      @williamanthony175 6 месяцев назад +12

      Snapping into it beyond the grave

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +5

      Cause it was only vince that was the problem

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@MyChannel-ol1zzI mean, it was mainly Vince, yeah lol

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@Inequities And the several others named in the suit and all the enablers who knew about it, but sure just vince.

  • @torrancehale1819
    @torrancehale1819 6 месяцев назад +55

    Vince screwed Vince!

    • @greenskiis
      @greenskiis 6 месяцев назад +4

      Among a lot of other people.

  • @smac919
    @smac919 6 месяцев назад +117

    Cody seemed more like the head of wwe in the presser than Trips did lol

    • @johnathanashleyOCSO
      @johnathanashleyOCSO 6 месяцев назад +11

      Vince did it to himself. A legacy tarnished on an in minutes

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 6 месяцев назад +13

      That's cause he's a sociopath

    • @CarlMarxPunk
      @CarlMarxPunk 6 месяцев назад

      @@cervantesthenilbog7513 All great executives are.

  • @grizzlywyatt9491
    @grizzlywyatt9491 6 месяцев назад +62

    You don't start doing this stuff in your mid 70s you know he's done is before for sure.

    • @TheZaoNY
      @TheZaoNY 6 месяцев назад +4

      This behavior go way back. But money talk back in the days. I bet his dad and him knew about Mula trafficking.

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities 6 месяцев назад +5

      You hone your craft. You start seeing what you can get away with and it starts out fairly harmless and then you push the boundaries, and you use your fame and wealth and power to start grooming women. You’re absolutely right. He’s been doing this for a long time. He just got to a point where he was so comfortable being a predator, it became second nature

    • @philiphunn194
      @philiphunn194 6 месяцев назад +1

      All of the gross on-screen stuff he did with women during the Attitude era makes much more sense now.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 6 месяцев назад +1

      Rita Chatterton.
      The masseuse in 2006.
      Sable before 2003.
      Ashley Massaro was raped by an Army Doctor during tribute to the troops & was immediately coerced to sign an NDA. This was status quo, they had a process to deal with this at that point. Who knows what women who actually ended up on tv had to do.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheZaoNYI have no doubt in my mind Moolah was one of his inner circle. She was vile.

  • @345SM
    @345SM 6 месяцев назад +22

    Note on the NDA Law stuff, it apparently is actually retroactive.
    "The Law Retroactively Invalidates NDAs in Certain Circumstances
    The Speak Out Act applies retroactively to all NDAs that were already signed prior to the passage of the legislation. The law makes it illegal to enforce an NDA that would prevent a sexual harassment or assault victim from speaking out about their allegations. The law makes it clear that it applies to any claim that is filed after the date that the bill was signed into law, regardless of when the NDA was dated."

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities 6 месяцев назад +1

      It is actually far more confusing and convoluted than just that.
      So while a law was passed in 2022 that makes NDAs invalid if they were created to cover up sexual misconduct, the part about them being retroactive or not, is actually up to each of the states to make a decision on.
      You can put each state into one of three categories - 1) they do make them retroactive, 2) they’re not retroactive, and 3) it is currently being decided in the state courts, whether or not to make them retroactive.
      Connecticut falls in the third category and that is where the law will be enforced because of where WWE headquarters are. Currently there are two different people trying to pass laws making them retroactive but the vote is yet to come so actually we have no idea yet whether or not any of Vinces NDA are going to end up being retroactive. There’s actually a bunch of states like Massachusetts that have come out and said anything before December 2022 is not retroactive and not applicable to that law that you quote, so it’s pretty crazy

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 6 месяцев назад

      @@Inequitiesthis is the tough part. Because I’m sure Vince flew her all over from FL to CT, hotels as Laurinitis’ “breakfast” 🤮
      It’s a huge issue that these acts took place in multiple states & over a long period of time. Time & likely money will tell.

  • @geraintthatcher3076
    @geraintthatcher3076 6 месяцев назад +58

    Vince is probably begging Jerry Mcdevitt to come out of retirement

    • @user-ib6ky5os1n
      @user-ib6ky5os1n 6 месяцев назад

      *pegging

    • @nicolasawad4193
      @nicolasawad4193 6 месяцев назад +8

      Given that Vince referenced high powered lawyers ruining people's lives in the lawsuit he might very well be showing up for cross examination.

    • @jacobpolitte410
      @jacobpolitte410 6 месяцев назад +15

      Jerry, on a beach somewhere or whatever, looks at his phone that says VINCE, and just silences it.

    • @geraintthatcher3076
      @geraintthatcher3076 6 месяцев назад

      @jacobpolitte410 He might come back just for the challenge. This is the toughest scrape Vince has been in, why not give it a go

    • @carl5381
      @carl5381 6 месяцев назад

      Jerry will likely be deposed so I doubt it.

  • @drewstar8611
    @drewstar8611 6 месяцев назад +14

    Vince screwed Vince

  • @theSuperviLLain_est
    @theSuperviLLain_est 6 месяцев назад +56

    Curious to see if Kevin Dunn saw the writing on the wall.

    • @adamlennard1828
      @adamlennard1828 6 месяцев назад +16

      Yeah the timing can’t be a coincidence.

    • @watersandblue6001
      @watersandblue6001 6 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@adamlennard1828 when i first heard he was gone, i thought how can this be real. You would not think someone like him leaves, without a bigger reason behind it.

    • @user-ib6ky5os1n
      @user-ib6ky5os1n 6 месяцев назад +14

      In the lawsuit they said Vince shared videos and photos of the victim to production team and a referee among others.

    • @bristolguy45
      @bristolguy45 6 месяцев назад +1

      Or the sh@t hitting the head

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden 6 месяцев назад

      He was fired so nope.

  • @Dr_1212
    @Dr_1212 6 месяцев назад +19

    Finally
    Goodbye predator vince

  • @tenchi67622
    @tenchi67622 6 месяцев назад +6

    You know somewhere Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff, and the Hart Family, among many others, are drinking toasts to Vince's downfall......

  • @AnssiEriksson
    @AnssiEriksson 6 месяцев назад +28

    This is tough to listen. Not referring to the subject itself, but the constant interrputions, "you know, you know, you know" and aimless rambling. Alvarez is fine though.

  • @jasonmorgan9881
    @jasonmorgan9881 6 месяцев назад +32

    Where Dave says he does not know what to say never a truer word spoken

    • @DarthMeteos
      @DarthMeteos 6 месяцев назад +2

      bro why are you hate watching these
      go, live your life, be free little homie

    • @ZombieaidZ
      @ZombieaidZ 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@DarthMeteossome people excessively online do that. Hate watching is such an absurd and masochistc thing. I dont get why anyone would want to do it, but I've seen so many people do

    • @sh3tpostsgamertime204
      @sh3tpostsgamertime204 6 месяцев назад

      @@ZombieaidZhow can you not get it, its easier to hate then like something

  • @TMPS93
    @TMPS93 6 месяцев назад +25

    You'd think Triple H would have met with legal or HR to prepare a statement for the press conference. That's what anyone else in a leadership role outside of the wrestling industry would have done.

    • @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
      @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 6 месяцев назад +4

      Ain't no time for that when Royal Rumble was about to go down.
      Plus, he is chief content officer not a board member or Nick Kahn.
      He's an employee

    • @rigsby1454
      @rigsby1454 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@NoneofYabiz-rx3zilol you serious? Him saying he hasn’t read it is horrendous. Imagine being a woman working in that company and the son in law and head of creative can’t be arsed

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@rigsby1454I mean the document came out late Thursday night and he has the second biggest PPV Saturday night. I’m not surprised he didn’t find time to sit down and read 64 pages of a civil complaint. It’s not his job as head of creative to read it anymore than it is head of production or head booker. This is the CEO and legal’s wheelhouse.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@rigsby1454 He didn't need to read it. He likely already knew about all of it.

    • @83jdc1
      @83jdc1 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@mikeg2491 HHH was also in charge of talent relations, all his talent worked with and under Vince. Just out of that fact alone he just have put 30 minutes aside to read the lawsuit. Not to mention it's the grandfather to his children.

  • @MyChannel-ol1zz
    @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +23

    Let’s see if Cena and Danielson make excuses like they did the first time around.

    • @MrTrueCaller619
      @MrTrueCaller619 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nobody cares

    • @markdinatale6660
      @markdinatale6660 6 месяцев назад +4

      So my take on wrestlers not knowing goes further than a Triple H. Wrestlers travel, and seldom visit the HQ, so I can see that they might not know about the inner-workings of what happens at Titan Towers. Now, would word travel and rumors start, I am sure of it. Every company has drama where details seep out, EVERY COMPANY BIG OR SMALL HAS DRAMA and someone, somewhere knows what happens.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@MrTrueCaller619 SA supporter alert

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 6 месяцев назад +1

      They won't say a damn thing.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад

      @@dogmd7 Like they won’t answer any questions asked to them about it? Or they won’t make excuses?

  • @jonpower9728
    @jonpower9728 6 месяцев назад +22

    So Triple H just accepted the fact Lesnar wasn't showing up to RR and didn't ask for any details as to what happened? C'MON!!!

    • @BBBWrestling
      @BBBWrestling 6 месяцев назад +7

      I'm positive when he said he didn't read it he meant he didn't read the document with his own eyeballs, he can still be informed about the details of the lawsuit without reading it himself. The news dropped like two days before the rumble, he's still running smackdown inbetween one of their biggest shows of the year. It's not that farfetched

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@BBBWrestlingHHH likely already knew what happened. As did a number of people in the company.

  • @QualtM
    @QualtM 6 месяцев назад +22

    Politics, wrestling, and business aside, the main issue is a woman who just lost her parents was preyed upon and put through physical and traumatic harm. She was passed around and broken on purpose. At work by her superiors.

  • @hihihi1q23
    @hihihi1q23 6 месяцев назад +39

    I just need to know why he went for that gross dyed hair and mustache combo. It's absolutely bizarre. He went from looking like a good looking old guy to the corpse of Clark Gable.

    • @jonny8908
      @jonny8908 6 месяцев назад +4

      I wouldn’t make those comparisons. He is a serial offender end of

    • @ChickenNugNugz2
      @ChickenNugNugz2 6 месяцев назад +5

      Vince never looked good or handsome, he just looked less weird. He looked like a weird Old man before the new look

    • @shylurker5883
      @shylurker5883 6 месяцев назад +1

      jacked up corpse of clark gable

    • @kayskreed
      @kayskreed 6 месяцев назад +2

      Gomez Addams's great grandfather.

    • @pester2191
      @pester2191 6 месяцев назад

      So he can abandon it all before a potential future criminal trial and make himself look frail and inspire sympathy.

  • @LapsedComicFan
    @LapsedComicFan 6 месяцев назад +2

    Damn. Came here to listen and see what’s going on with this and got to hear Meltzer say……
    “as far as this lawsuit goes umm there’s so many things but I mean like have you.. is there any.. because here’s one of the big questions that I have no idea the answer for”
    Thanks Dave.

  • @rj5822
    @rj5822 6 месяцев назад +4

    Would love to see how a conversation with Vinny Mac and Travis Brown would go

  • @fitzgerald434
    @fitzgerald434 6 месяцев назад +9

    For HHH to be asked about those questions and to dodge the question and brag about all the money WWE is making was disgusting. It's exactly why I stopped supporting the WWE. Cody gave a better answer than HHH. When he said I didn't read the lawsuit I was done , how can a person in his position especially when he could be in that lawsuit as Corporate Officer #1 not read it. Wwe is a joke

  • @NostalgiNorden
    @NostalgiNorden 6 месяцев назад +11

    Looking forward to reading all the WWE stans defending Vince and somehow claiming that it is really Tony Kahn who is the bad guy....

    • @craigoneill2216
      @craigoneill2216 6 месяцев назад

      I don’t think you’ll find anyone defending this crazy shit

    • @kellijones6481
      @kellijones6481 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@craigoneill2216Unfortunately, I’ve seen quite a few people who are defending Vince. I saw one RUclipsr (won’t mention his name but it’s out there) that made a 20 minute video that was titled “Vince is a victim”. It’s bizarre

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 6 месяцев назад

      But but but Tiny Tony doesn’t blink and hugs the wrestlers!?!!? 🤣

  • @starswarslandoseries
    @starswarslandoseries 6 месяцев назад +3

    love the work you guys do. keep up uncle dave

  • @rollandcurtis874
    @rollandcurtis874 6 месяцев назад +8

    Journalist: “Is there anything that’s out-of-bounds for you guys right now?”
    Vince McMahon: “Uh well sure, I think that there might be some things that are out-of-bounds, I mean there are no guns, there are no knives, there’s no R*PES, there’s no robberies.” - Vince McMahon in 1998

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD 6 месяцев назад +2

      That was in relation to the Austin/Pillman gun angle they shot at the house.. It was also during the time they did a miscarriage angle so he was referring to domestically strong angles they were avoiding.. Your reference is pretty weak here regardless of Vince's scandal!

    • @wkmalory
      @wkmalory 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@JamesWilsonMD yeah James keep backing monsters and correcting people online, your a fu***ng hero guy

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@JamesWilsonMD You always get some smart arse know it all🤦

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD 6 месяцев назад

      @@wkmalory I do apologize, RUclips is flooded with absolute 🔔 🔚 marks on these dirt sheets who don't know their ass from their elbow, so when you correct them on their BS rhetoric they come back at you with pathetic stuff like what you've just said!
      Also - whilst I personally believe everything in the lawsuit (which I've read cover to cover twice) is real and genuine, we don't know how consensual it was throughout and most importantly we live in an open and free society where you are innocent til proven guilty!
      Cry more ya plant pot.

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MikeyP1983 It's just called being an avid wrestling fan that has a decent memory, it's not that hard.. Try using the other brain cell you were gifted with. 😉
      Also - without any context from the OP it fools people like you.. It was from "Off the Record with Michael Landsberg". 😘

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 6 месяцев назад +5

    If people like Paul Levesque can reasonably be viewed as knowing what was going on, I imagine the story will expand to them pretty quick right?

    • @beckriv9854
      @beckriv9854 6 месяцев назад +2

      I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'm fairly certain they all knew about the NDAs and while Stephanie left, Paul wasn't as personally connected therefore retained his position because it was morally easier for him despite what was known and not known about the specifics and in the event of it all coming out he has that option of deniability of "we knew about the NDAs but my business is the wrestling side so I didn't ask questions about stuff that didn't involve that".

    • @samoanjoseph1457
      @samoanjoseph1457 6 месяцев назад

      I really doubt that people who worked closely with Vince for years were totally in the dark. I suspect the same is true of family, or people who became family.
      If Paul, for example, were to say he had no idea what Vince was doing behind closed doors, I'd call him a liar. I think he would have known, even as one of the boys. These are people who were tight with Ric Flair, what are the odds they didn't know Vince had women on the side? Now, as for it being their responsibility to stop it? Vince was grown. And you could make the case that anybody who knew could have approached him, possibly at the cost of their job, and told him to stop. But the fact is, most people go to WWE to make money. You can be principled, when you can afford it. In much the same way I'm sure these women likely would not have gotten personally involved with Vince if they had the money to pay their own way instead. Or at least that's how it was framed this time. She needed money, Vince offered.
      So I would argue that anybody who knew and didn't say anything, wasn't necessarily guilty. Because the people who knew and did say something, probably don't work for WWE anymore. And even she stayed and stayed quiet for the money, so I don't really consider it fair for her to blame anyone else who did.

  • @OscillatorCollective
    @OscillatorCollective 6 месяцев назад +26

    I hope TKO absolutely GUT wwe. There needs to be a complete house cleaning in that company.
    I know “everyone” loves HHH, but he probably needs to go too.

    • @HavenFlux
      @HavenFlux 6 месяцев назад +7

      I think if this happens and they dont apoint a Paul Heyman or William Regal but rather put in an Entertainment exec in place then this could be a serious problem for WWEs longterm sucess...

    • @iamnotanumber100
      @iamnotanumber100 6 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed 👏👏👏👏

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 6 месяцев назад +5

      You want more corporate non wrestling stooges running WWE and making it even more of a joke than it already is?

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@HavenFluxAgreed. Putting an entertainment exec without any background in wrestling can be a disaster for the WWE brand and turn off a lot of fans.

    • @adamrichman6105
      @adamrichman6105 6 месяцев назад +1

      Dwayne is going to take over.

  • @seanbyrne2179
    @seanbyrne2179 6 месяцев назад +4

    Vince Screwed Vince!

  • @jimmymancus
    @jimmymancus 6 месяцев назад +1

    Does Linda consider divorcing Vince now? Obviously they aren't "together" and haven't been for years, but stayed married for business purposes. But now, does she want to be associated with him with these horrific allegations out there?

  • @DARC-87
    @DARC-87 6 месяцев назад +20

    Ashley Massaro

    • @jordanakram5573
      @jordanakram5573 6 месяцев назад +1

      What happened with Ashley?

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 6 месяцев назад +1

      Raped in Kuwait and supposedly Vince and Triple H helped hide it @@jordanakram5573

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 6 месяцев назад +3

      I always thought Ashley was never really a wrestler. Especially after winning a beauty contest. All those bumps and injuries took a toll on her body.

  • @markdavidson1498
    @markdavidson1498 6 месяцев назад +4

    Now kick rocks Vince.

  • @kingston4313
    @kingston4313 6 месяцев назад +4

    Vince would have thrived in ancient rome. They had a specific job for guys who liked to piss, they used it to clean their togas

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 6 месяцев назад +1

      WrestleMania IX would have been appropriate😅

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 6 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't be a bit surprised or shocked if Bruce Prichard was involved, I've never known such a yes man, a total kiss arse,if Vince told him to lick the shit out of Vince's crack Bruce would have his tongue out in less than a split second,no hesitation at all. He is so pathetic he makes me cringe.

  • @auramigraine
    @auramigraine 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is just the beginning too, after discovery it could open up even more atrocities.

  • @shredenvain7
    @shredenvain7 6 месяцев назад +9

    There is no way in hell that Trips hasn't read the lawsuit and there is no way that if these things are true that Trips didn't know about them.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus 6 месяцев назад +3

      Dude had six hours of shows to prep for ahead of him when the document dropped. If you were Hunter, would you drop everything to read how your daughters' grandfather is worse than Roger Stone on Epstein Island? I'd wait until the shows were over personally. And then I'd wish I didn't read it after I was done.
      Seems like you want him to be guilty of conspiracy. His answer wasn't great but it wasn't a rambling coke tangent like we got with Tony and Kylie Rae.

    • @shredenvain7
      @shredenvain7 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Sockimus Have you read the document? It's got some crazy shit. It's also his father in law and the creator of the company he works for. Then take into account that Trips most likely had access to these documents way before the public did. He has read them.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@shredenvain7 I did read it. Did you read my comment?

    • @shredenvain7
      @shredenvain7 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@Sockimus Yes your argument is that Trips is so busy from wake to sleep booking TV that he doesn't have 10 mins to read a document that could cause great harm to the company he loves and works for. That is a ridiculous argument to make.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus 6 месяцев назад

      @shredenvain7 are you done with your autistic temper tantrum?

  • @henryblazer20
    @henryblazer20 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is Dave wearing the “I am Kenough” hoodie?

  • @stephanebeauchemin2987
    @stephanebeauchemin2987 6 месяцев назад +3

    Also i think Triple H knew what was going on

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Based on my general knowledge of companies that I've worked for and that I've heard to talked about and reported on, it would be difficult to imagine this behavior was contained to a fee people. Companies run on culture, and people talk. I think the number one question right now is who else was participating in this and who else knew it was going on and was complicit in him.

  • @TheHardys01
    @TheHardys01 6 месяцев назад +2

    1:51 Thank You Both for using logic to form a very good question.
    Triple H made himself look very shamefull last night, to those who are capable of logical analysis.

  • @MrSkittlez313
    @MrSkittlez313 6 месяцев назад +1

    VKM ruined his family legacy. His grandfather and father were promoters. He didn’t leave the company for his kids. He sold out his name and ruined it. His father is turning in his grave.

  • @brandonliddy6389
    @brandonliddy6389 6 месяцев назад +2

    As long as Bruce and John are in there then vince isn't out. Also yes where's the lack of coverage on triple h and especially stephanie? Wouldn't be suprised there's a maxine twist involved

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 6 месяцев назад +1

      Which John? If you mean Laurinaitis he's been gone since 2022.

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly Vince coming as close as he did to surviving all of this was wild to begin with. Despite all of the issues and having to step away he was able to force back in he was able to pull off the merger at a substantial premium in valuation compared to what the stock was trading at when he was initially forced out and had a pretty nice arrangement to still be in the mix albeit in largely an honorary role as executive chairman. The day he resigned as CEO their stock closing price was $62.51 a share. The final trading price of the WWE stock was $100.65 a share. So to think he did all the stuff he did and was able to consummate a sale that led to the share price being 61% higher per share than what it was the day he initially stepped away was insane. And then you think that had he simply made his payments like he had agreed to even if he thought he didn’t have to this lawsuit likely doesn’t happen and he gets to stay around in the honorary role. Instead he decided to skirt paying $2M forcing him to leave again in even more disgrace than before and the price he will have to pay when this suit is said and done will be multiples of what he would’ve paid and could be even more if it’s ruled that the NDAs aren’t enforceable which we will then get to see more people flock in droves to sue him and that’ll likely be even more large payouts that are multiples of what he would’ve paid to Janel. And had this lawsuit never occurred he would’ve still been seen poorly but it would still be seen as improper relationship of a boss and employee instead of seeing the alleged depravity laid out in this lawsuit. Amazing that a businessman who always thought of the long game elected to try and skirt a sum of money that was peanuts in the total picture of his wealth and now blew up his entire legacy and will end up paying out immensely more money than he would have paid to honors the NDA. Entirely self inflicted destruction to himself

  • @DOHCtorJ
    @DOHCtorJ 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can Meltzer complete a sentence without trying to make another statement?
    If he is a journalist he should have taken a speech class.

    • @averagejoe4525
      @averagejoe4525 6 месяцев назад +1

      *Perfectly* said!

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 6 месяцев назад

      Bear in mind that Dave started reporting on wrestling when he was a teenager.

    • @DOHCtorJ
      @DOHCtorJ 6 месяцев назад

      @meekrob ok, I'm guessing it's been 50 ish years, and he still hasn't learned how.
      Thank you for the information, though. I didn't know it had been that long.

  • @SamSamSamJ
    @SamSamSamJ 6 месяцев назад +7

    I still believe Shane and/or another family member spilled the beans to start the investigation.

    • @fives.
      @fives. 6 месяцев назад +3

      Given what has been reported about what happened over the years at the corporate level, I could believe this

  • @001sander2
    @001sander2 6 месяцев назад +1

    The board needs to resign as well for letting him back in

  • @ImportAustralia
    @ImportAustralia 6 месяцев назад +1

    We've been down this road before. Who's to say it won't end up exactly like it did last time?

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 6 месяцев назад

      VKM does not have controlling shares of TKO like he did with WWE. Are you new here kid?

    • @ImportAustralia
      @ImportAustralia 6 месяцев назад

      @@milk_bath Are you? This is EXACTLY how it went last time. Vince "stepping down" after allegations broke.

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 6 месяцев назад

      @@ImportAustralia I repeat, VKM does not have controlling amount of stock shares of TKO/WWE to force himself back in like he did before TKO absorbed WWE. He had 80%+ of WWE, but only 12% of TKO. Do you have learning disabilities or are you just willfully dense?

  • @vodkagal28
    @vodkagal28 6 месяцев назад

    That's a good question. What if this case goes to court? What happens to WWE if it goes to trial?

  • @ESWShockwave
    @ESWShockwave 6 месяцев назад

    Dave mentions that the texts were real. I’ve searched all over for the number being connected to Vince. Did I miss that information? Seriously asking.

  • @leondarnell1
    @leondarnell1 6 месяцев назад +5

    This is why i've been an Observer subscriber for over 35 years!!!! Really look forward to Dave's analysis.

  • @onnu2001
    @onnu2001 6 месяцев назад +5

    The lawsuit? Let me sum it up for you. When are the cops coming to make arrests? That’s your answer right there.

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 6 месяцев назад

      That’s not how lawsuits work. You complete dunce.

  • @XhoowieX
    @XhoowieX 6 месяцев назад +1

    It was always obvious Vince was like this even from somebody who just follows this stuff from the outside, so people like Rock, Cena, Undertaker, Big Show etc who have publicly been unflinchingly loyal to him for decades need to be seriously looked at. And as for Hunter, it's barely even worth looking, only to find out the extent of his involvement.

    • @michaelparrish6093
      @michaelparrish6093 3 месяца назад

      Maybe he's a POS behind closed doors who ALSO did good things for people and their careers. People are complex. Also, Steph and HHH seemingly hated Vince.

  • @LukeLeonettiYouTube
    @LukeLeonettiYouTube 6 месяцев назад

    Triple H claiming he “didn’t read the lawsuit” gives him an out so he didn’t have to answer any specific questions pertaining to it

  • @gildartswinters4984
    @gildartswinters4984 6 месяцев назад +1

    the people who took down Vince McMahon was slim jim.

  • @deekdeegler5059
    @deekdeegler5059 6 месяцев назад +4

    Dave thinks HHH is oblivious at his job as head of creative because he didn’t read the lawsuit then 1 minute later admits he himself hasn’t read the lawsuit so doesn’t that mean Dave is also oblivious to his job as a journalist

  • @JohnRigby5011
    @JohnRigby5011 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank God

  • @Fallout7295
    @Fallout7295 6 месяцев назад

    I'm honestly wondering if vince will make another comeback to the wwe & tko since he pulled it off the first time

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 6 месяцев назад +1

    What a dreadful culture at that company

  • @auramigraine
    @auramigraine 6 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone remember Serena Deeb's Promo from 05/18/22?

  • @kimymarie596
    @kimymarie596 6 месяцев назад +4

    Those accusations are horrible. And seems like she got the receipts for some of it 😬

  • @GodlessScummer
    @GodlessScummer 6 месяцев назад

    How many years has Dave been waiting to say "Vince McMahon screwed Vince McMahon"?
    (Yes I know I'm paraphrasing).

  • @nameless5413
    @nameless5413 6 месяцев назад

    "Vince screwed Vince"
    To some extent i am not surprised, he kept getting issues with locker room and some things he did (even in context of the time) were rather questionable.
    And once the allegations about the lady division started flying... oh boy it felt like there HAD to have been compliance from management of federation and its management. Even so i am bit surprised Vince would cut deal like that, really i thought it'd be from his cold dead hands or the same way he undercut his own father to get the buzniess, not in Mr. Ecclestone slowly yielding power to someone he sold buzniess to (altho his was at least not mired in controversy).

  • @bunnyboy1
    @bunnyboy1 6 месяцев назад +1

    How long until he weasels his way back in once again and everyone will just forget once again until the next horrible thing comes out

  • @georgewolynetz3874
    @georgewolynetz3874 6 месяцев назад

    To be fair though, if Triple H knew he'd be asked about the lawsuit after the PPV then I could believe he didn't read it. That way, he ain't lying when asked. Ask him again in a week and a half and he says the same thing, then I'd be suspicious. But I agree also that he could have handled it better and that Cody really stepped up.

  • @BOBBYSOX86
    @BOBBYSOX86 6 месяцев назад

    Uncle Dave is so adorable with that microphone

  • @Bman32x
    @Bman32x 6 месяцев назад

    It’s just like the Washington Commanders & Dan Snyder. Got away with atrocious abuse toward women for years inside the organization, but it was only until he was screwing up the NFL’s money, was when stockholders & the other teams wanted him gone. When Vince’s actions messed with the money, then he had to go. The sale may have been the best thing to happen to clean everything up. But when McDevitt left, that was the writing on the wall that this was different.

  • @TheGekko135
    @TheGekko135 6 месяцев назад

    "Any NDA dealing with sexual assault after the year 2022 is invalid". Lol if that WAS retroactive to years prior i think the wrestling industry would become a VERY different place

  • @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu
    @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu 6 месяцев назад +12

    Maybe is possible that HHH didn't know everything that was going on. Remember he did have to deal with his own health issues.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +5

      No, just no.

    • @ArthurDent33
      @ArthurDent33 6 месяцев назад +6

      Everyone in the company knew

    • @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu
      @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ArthurDent33 Everyone?? I doubt that.

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yuyou doubt this cause your naive and gullible. I bet you're beyond a wrestling mark, you were probably a vaccine mark too.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu May not be every single person. But alot of people definitely knew. And it's a safe bet that HHH was 1 of those people

  • @ronniesouthern7829
    @ronniesouthern7829 3 месяца назад

    Dave spewing his familiar words: Uhm, uhm, you know, I, I, I just cant uhm, uhm, uhm believe it, you know.

  • @user-ho4yf2ez7n
    @user-ho4yf2ez7n 6 месяцев назад

    One thing for sure is he likely can never be a public figure again because this stuff is going follow him for the rest of his life.

  • @sanchez501
    @sanchez501 6 месяцев назад

    If the allegations prove true, it really is Vince Mcmahon screwed Vince Mcmahon.

  • @LeoNxL2Hx
    @LeoNxL2Hx 6 месяцев назад

    I think Brian is correct with the Vince not paying reason, but I don’t think he thought she talked, I just think he thought, well it’s out there, I’m paying to keep it quiet but now it’s out, why bother. And yes, he is an idiot for thinking like that, that old man mentality

  • @ronniesouthern7829
    @ronniesouthern7829 3 месяца назад

    Someone finally had the balls (and money) to get Vince out of there.

  • @PK-ne8hk
    @PK-ne8hk 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dave's face looks like he was in multiple war games against the horsemen lol.

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 6 месяцев назад

      I know, right? His forehead looks like he's been gigging it for years.

  • @amitvishwakarma726
    @amitvishwakarma726 6 месяцев назад

    "Vince Screwed Vince!!"

  • @Sockimus
    @Sockimus 6 месяцев назад +12

    I don't think Bruce was involved in the Vince excrement, but I can definitely understand wanting him gone because of Vince. I kept looking for Bruce in the document. While he wasn't there, doesn't mean he couldn't be involved, but the podcast with Conrad has made me feel he's more of a decent family man now and someone who sowed their oats before having kids. I wouldn't care if he got let go or not; I enjoy the unreliable narrative of his podcasts more than I do him as a booker. But I don't think Bruce was ultimately part of the deplorable sex crap. Insane to carry a gun to work? He is Texan afterall.

    • @rafaelriveracollazo8680
      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 6 месяцев назад

      If he knew, he has to go. Because if it were to happen again he will not say anything because it will hurt the company. Anyone that knew has to go.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus 6 месяцев назад

      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 no sign of him in the document so he passed the first test.

    • @WheelzGaming88
      @WheelzGaming88 6 месяцев назад +2

      Bruce is happily married. The only thing he's definitely guilty of is knowing this pattern of behavior for years and never speaking up against it or reporting it to authorities within the board of directors.

    • @rafaelriveracollazo8680
      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Sockimus i don't know. Ronda Rousey called him as a "Vince avatar". A minion who will do Vince will when he was not there. We will see.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@rafaelriveracollazo8680 If that's the case. Then a number of people need to go. Cause a number of them knew.

  • @MyChannel-ol1zz
    @MyChannel-ol1zz 6 месяцев назад +4

    “But but but Tony” - Deflecting drones

  • @PhenomenalOne1000
    @PhenomenalOne1000 6 месяцев назад +1

    Vincd screwd vince bret hart from the past must be laughing rn

  • @drpiv
    @drpiv 6 месяцев назад

    Over under on how many months until Vince is back in some form?

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob 6 месяцев назад

      Not this time.

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 6 месяцев назад

    WWE is going to chuck Vince so far under the bus it's unbelievable. They fight and lose, they're going to be destroyed by more disclosures. They'll settle, no doubt, and will not support Vince should he try to fight the charge.

  • @cal9784
    @cal9784 6 месяцев назад +13

    "I... Y'know... The thing is... And it's not like it's... You know... Here's the thing, y'know, like I said"
    Meltzer's brain is fucking mush

  • @blakefranklin882
    @blakefranklin882 6 месяцев назад

    19:30 notta good look on Bruce. I dont think he will be around in wwe much longer either. I think all of the Vince guys will be gone

  • @MrJawstherevenge87
    @MrJawstherevenge87 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think its time he stays gone. This is just nasty. Im no bible beater but this isnt sexting this is just sick and twisted. Ill just remeber wwe as the cartoon of then 80s. F Vince

  • @LemoTetson
    @LemoTetson 6 месяцев назад

    Any chance they force Vince to sell his 12% stock ownership? Then he’d TRULY be done.

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 6 месяцев назад +1

      No they can't. I actually wonder if his contract has anything carved into allowing him to come back to his chairman role if he voluntarily resigns if he wants. I think if he can clear his name, he will try to get back in there.

    • @robjazer203
      @robjazer203 6 месяцев назад

      I’m not sure but I think he gets double pay that was written in if he resigned.

  • @mulldrifterz6469
    @mulldrifterz6469 6 месяцев назад +4

    If we can just get Dave to retire now, would be great. Tired of um, ya, you know, etc etc for minutes on end before a thought comes out.

    • @averagejoe4525
      @averagejoe4525 6 месяцев назад

      "Tired of um, ya, you know, etc etc for minutes on end before a thought comes out" 🤣👍

  • @BigG257
    @BigG257 6 месяцев назад

    Vince screwed Vince.

  • @jeffreyross71
    @jeffreyross71 6 месяцев назад +3

    There is no way HHH did not know about this

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 6 месяцев назад

    Where was this energy 3 weeks ago

  • @shootwithjets
    @shootwithjets 6 месяцев назад

    How convenient that Vince sold the company at the time that he did

  • @kencarr2190
    @kencarr2190 6 месяцев назад

    How much was Bruce Pritchard involved.Did he know or more than know.

  • @johns3491
    @johns3491 6 месяцев назад +3

    He may have resigned, but he still owns 11% of the company stock. While that greatly diminishes his voting power, that still may give him a tiny bit of leverage should he want to return one day (such as if, by some miracle, he's able to disprove the charges against him).

    • @colinbennett2014
      @colinbennett2014 6 месяцев назад +2

      He will be so toxic, he will not be allowed anywhere near a wwe or ufc venue

  • @willc3050
    @willc3050 6 месяцев назад

    Maybe this is why he sold the company, maybe this is why Kevin Dunn left, maybe this is why they’re brought the rock on the board of directors and when he rang the bell he looked cold towards vince.

  • @rmunoz93
    @rmunoz93 6 месяцев назад

    Don’t forget about Kevin Dunn

  • @StuntmanMike11
    @StuntmanMike11 6 месяцев назад

    It’s amazing that no one is talking about sex addiction…

  • @conormoncrieff5942
    @conormoncrieff5942 6 месяцев назад +7

    Do you think Dave Meltzer will ever get a sentence out?

    • @NinjaSquirrel30
      @NinjaSquirrel30 6 месяцев назад

      Why the F are you here then? The 3 of you who like comment also.
      Meltzer is #1 wrestling match and industry analyst. Coming onto a channel just to throw shade. Your lives are very boring and time wasted to do that.

  • @Xmao002
    @Xmao002 6 месяцев назад

    Good advertisement for Slim Jim.

  • @tomzarate4694
    @tomzarate4694 6 месяцев назад

    Vince McMahon screwed Vince McMahon

  • @mr.c4p
    @mr.c4p 6 месяцев назад +3

    the texts are WILD. i'm assuming they're 100% verified but they're so nuts they're almost hard to believe. hard to imagine vkm using Lol, B, etc.

    • @johnm140
      @johnm140 6 месяцев назад +1

      He can't even spell apparently

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 6 месяцев назад +1

      Texts like a horny 16 year old lol. The guy was in his mid seventies 😂

  • @cameronmartino1994
    @cameronmartino1994 6 месяцев назад

    An.......ongoing......... investigation.........

  • @AdamSylis-nh5oo
    @AdamSylis-nh5oo 6 месяцев назад +2

    I cannot blame HHH. How the heck was he supposed to stop Vince? Vince absolutely ruined HHH's NXT wrestlers in front of him, and he couldn't do anything. I'm not saying he is pure; the same goes for TK. But I'll take TK or HHH over Vince any given day. ⚡

  • @sebastianhoward3304
    @sebastianhoward3304 6 месяцев назад

    Well slim Jim was with WCW until they died when savage went over there.

  • @JPD2587
    @JPD2587 6 месяцев назад

    5:41 - 😂😂😂

  • @gutterpoprecords5595
    @gutterpoprecords5595 6 месяцев назад

    Oblivious to his job? Must be doing a Tony Khan gimmick.

  • @ArthurDent33
    @ArthurDent33 6 месяцев назад +5

    Hopefully the family of Ashley Massaro can get some attention. He drove that girl to suicide

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 6 месяцев назад +1

      I’m sorry she is gone but she claimed “The woman guarded the door while the man proceeded to inject me with a drug that caused me to be unable to move my body or to scream.” Just seems a little far fetched. Also the drug paralyzed her yet she claimed she felt pain throughout the assault? A small minority of patients have woken during general anesthesia but they never feel pain just general terror being awake. Also if the man was not a doctor as she claimed since he wasn’t dressed like the other techs, how did he know the right dosage or drugs to give her that wouldn’t kill her? There is a reason professionals administer this stuff and have to do precise calculations. If it was any random dude on the base I don’t think she’d lived to talk about it.