Teddy has never changed his story about anything since he started doing the shoot interviews 20 years ago, dude doesn’t care about being in good graces with the corporate world or not. He just wants to be honest.
The best moment of teddy not giving an F is when he stopped counting in that one match because it wasn't supposed to be the finish, and you can tell he is getting chewed out, so he just takes his communicator off!
I agree but again innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. Laurinaitis was a racist piece a shit and always will be. Lest we forget Vince was pretty aggressive to get his way all the time. But I can see your point of view on this. Teddy is a stand up guy but Apter looked almost like he was gonna snap.
The grandchildren I can sympathize for, but Linda, Shane or Stephanie absolutely not. People like to pretend Linda didn't help cover everything up Vince did in the 80s and WELL into and through the bulk of the 90s. Shane and Stephanie may not have been involved, but they were aware of more than enough. The family is gross and dirty. Money doesn't make a carnie stop being a carnie.
I’m not so convinced with Shane knowing, he went out of his way to separate himself from the family business in the late 2000s into the 2010s. Shane is probably the only family member who got screwed over the worst, Vince never respected or listened to him because if he had they would own UFC. Steph is interesting because I think she voted against him returning to the WWE board before the sale and the min the Announcement came out she resigned swiftly.
11:37 an escort isn’t his employee. He can’t control them like he the women he had under contract. He wanted to take advantage of inexperienced vulnerable women.
@@basedelon the age doesn’t have anything to do with it. Your life situation has more to do with it than age. She doesn’t sound like she was very bright but she did lose her parents and doesn’t seem like she has much guidance after that. It’s not hard to believe she was groomed into a toy by Vince though. He probably made her strip down to her bra and panties and made her bark like a dog like he did to Trish. Vince was/is sick in the head so don’t put anything past him.
Teddy Long is so glad to hear about John Laurinaitis troubles, Karmas coming player.there's not many rassleing stars I believe, but I'd believe what Teddy Long says
I like the fact that Teddy L. ain't saying sht about Vince yet, but everyone else has had to condemn him LOL. Teddy's like "im blk fuk yall" and they ain't saying sht about him either. Several friends of mine shared this vid and we all said basically the same thing: "LOL Teddy ain't condemning Vince yet and NOBODY will say anything about it" 😅 That's fine with me, though. That's how you identify the tree by its fruit.
No he showed people with all the storylines and things he made people do for the sake of the show. Told on himself multiple times but people were like “oh that’s just wrestling”
@eamonnmaccionnaith5761 actually goes back to the 80s when he was accused of raping a female referee. The entertainment industry is full of despicable and depraved people preying on the weak and guillable.
He stopped paying once his legal team told him that it was unenforceable, which came out once the hush money payments were audited. Thats how i understand it.
And since it was Unenforceable She could bring this lawsuit if she has pictures. Text messages And vince was using the money from the The investors he's in Trouble, because it's a publicly traded company.
Consenting adults are entitled to have whatever type of relationship they please, but that’s impossible when one person is dependent upon the other for income and livelihood.
Vince stopped paying the NDA when he got caught for all the other NDAs. He couldn't keep spending money once accounts were under the microscope. It baffles me though how billionaires always need someone else's money. He could have given her two million from his own account
As a survivor as a long-term SA, thank you, Bill, for being so compassionate, appropriate, and respectful about this topic and the victims' experience. There is a huge power imbalance that exists between a billionaire who knew her since childhood and then stepped in when her parents died and offered work and financial/emotional stability, and an employee that becomes a "gun to the head", especially when a culture of silencing women already exists within a company.
Too alot of people, Vince is big, mean & loud. to some it's terrifying. To some it's embarrassing to the point they are afraid to tell anyone and then they think they have to carry on ... especially by a man, who puts you in a position that you know you have no experience in, move from dept to dept at whim ... slowly controlling you.... ... there doesn't have to be a 'gun' pointed at your head. psychopaths just needs to look in your eyes - see what you need to hear & say it to make you believe them.
That comment made around 4 minutes into the video is ironic. Vince McMahon's grandkids doing a Google search to see what's going on with him. Sex trafficking, rape, sexual assault, defecation and more. Yet, I recall all the times when WWF legend Chyna was still alive and fans wanted so desperately for her to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Creative reportedly also wanted Chyna to come back to the roster for the DX reunion. Gamers wanted her to be a playable character in the videogames. All of these requests were denied time and time again. HHH was asked about this directly and gave some BS excuse about Chyna appearing in some porn was not appropriate history for a Hall of Famer. HHH literally said he did not want his children, Vince's grandkids, to do a Google search on Chyna and find the porn she was in. He said this with a straight face, while ignoring the fact that his buddy X-Pac was in the WWE Hall of Fame even though X-Pac was in the porn film with Chyna. They were worried about the grandkids going on the internet and finding Chyna's porn. I wonder how worried they are about the grandkids going online and finding out their grandpa has partaken in rape, sex trafficking and more.
From what I know her parents lived in Vince’s condo and he knew her since she was younger. Her parents were financially stable until they lost everything filed bankruptcy and both passed away he kind of took advantage of her dark times.
Technically he didn’t do anything wrong………but morally you’re absolutely right. Preying on the weak in any form is some scumbag shit. Now do I feel she should be held accountable? Absolutely because you’re a 40 year old woman and you agreed to participate and you knew this was a long time married man. Vince cut the water off and now you wanna raise some hell. None of this surprises me and I’ll even go on to say it wouldn’t surprise me if we heard some our favorite all timers involved in some shit like this as well.
@-sdot83 She may have started out as a willing participant. She may have not known just how dark, dangerous and depraved his fantasy/perversions really were and may have never agreed to it. But, remember that consent may be rescinded at any point. And she points out that she did repeatedly tell them to stop and they did not. Plus, Vince broke the NDA and that gave her the chance to speak out about what happened.
@-sdot83 I see you didn't read the texts or the 66 page lawsuit. He would literally message her and tell her he told these guys if she said No it meant yes. He groomed her and used his power to force her into things. He told her how he could ruin her and how if she ever told or stopped how her pictures and everything would be in the public domain. He would text her about showing her pictures around even. Stop victim blaming
IT will be up to her, She wont get anymore money whether it goes to court or not. and it is a CIVIL TRIAL. So, it basically is already swept under the rug. She does not have to prove ANYTHING beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is why they went this way, she will either get paid before or after the trial. It is not anything other than a money grab, no one will go to jail, unless it is AFTER this trial. If she wanted him to go to jail, she could have just had a rape kit done after ANY Of the times she was raped, and he would be in jail. He never used protection, and neither did JL. So all their DNA would be in her or on her. End of story. Court or not, no one is seeing the inside of a jail cell in this. She will get dragged through the dirt and most likely suffer MORE in the trial. Vinces's lawyer is going to eat her up and spit her out, Whether or not he wins won't matter because it won't hurt Vince either way, going to trial is only going to destroy her even more. "Strictly speaking, a defendant doesn't go to jail from a civil lawsuit, but a person can go to jail for violating court orders of a civil case."
People keep thinking that this is a criminal lawsuit because of the acts Vince did. This is a civil lawsuit because he broke his agreement to pay her money.
@@stevenjames3242 He's under investigation for trafficking. I think you're living in the past. That's not the way it's going to go and you have no earthly idea what is up her sleeve. She likely held back
it's kinda funny that Teddy went from "i want to wait to give my opinion" to "laurinaitis probably influenced vince cause he's guilty as hell... if it's true"
No need to write my comment😂 Johnny Ace has a bad record especially with Teddy and Vince could convince some of the most uber ALPHA males to do some crazy things so...
Teddy Long: "There are rules we have to follow. Innocent until proven guilty." Also Teddy Long: "Oh, that n***a's guilty as hell. I'm sayin' it right now."
This is exactly what I was thinking. Kissing McMahons deplorable ass saying he has the utmost respect for him and doesn't want to give an opinion until it's decided in court but turns around and defiantly says Johnny is guilty simply because he hates him. My opinion is they're most likely both scum of the earth, but don't say one thing and immediately contradict yourself.
He's certainly entitled to his opinion, but the fact is he's still talking out both sides of his mouth here, and holding different people to different standards based on his personal distaste. I'm not offended by it, I just think it's funny. Teddy (regarding Vince): There are rules we have to follow... Innocent until proven guilty. We'll see what comes out in the wash. Also Teddy (regarding Johnny Ace, 5 minutes later): I'm callin' it right now, that mofo GUILTY as hell! He probably orchestrated the whole thing and manipulated Vince into it!
If Teddy knows more than what is already out there, he should tell everything. I hope everybody from within who has knowledge of anything should come forward at this point. This is wrong on so many levels. I used drugs for a good ten year stretch in Florida and there was this guy who sold drugs (Thomas Vana) out of Cape Coral, FL (hes rotting in jail now) and he had about 15-20 girls extremely dependant on heroin, oxys, roxys etc and this guy used to make them do extremely degrading things just for a bag of dope so they wouldnt be sick. It made me sick but I never said anything because he used to give me good deals. I was asked to testify in court against him and I did, i felt compelled to out of respect for those girls, a few of which died in their twenties. I've been 11 years sober now from heroin which made my decision easier. He will probably be in jail for life.
@maggielusk6833 Dark triad candidate if there ever was one. He’s convinced of his own innocence and righteousness in every one of his disputes. Whenever someone exposes the truth he plays the victim card and in the past always had the power to get away with it. Now we can see how he reacts when he’s obviously in the wrong, obviously abusing his power. Looking back to past allegations and accusations we can see he’s done this countless times to abuse and manipulate both men and women. I’m not a fan of what this woman did, but the courage she’s showing now is admirable. It’s also ironic that just like Hillary Clinton, VM’s wife used her influence to protect her husband at the expense of his victims. They’re 2 peas in a pod ready to be fed to the pigs.
he was sexually molested by his mum as a child and violently beaten by his step dad , his view on life is distorted beyond repair and isn’t satisfied by regular sex
This is like spoof of a Livestream, all the back peddling and watching what they say for fear of backlash. The bill apter old man routine made me smile at the beginning
@@pinklady4703 Not really, you can have "pretend play time" power over her I guess, but that's far too weak for someone who craves actual power as much as we know he does
Sad, isn't it? Everything he's accomplished and the wonderful life he has/had and he pissed all over it. Vince could've realy left the wwe and gone into the porn industry with some of the stuff in those texts.
I personally can't get past the fact that Teddy has all of this (certainly well warranted) heat for Johnny Ace, while still having all of this respect and reverence for Vince. It's really not adding up for me.
All of a sudden everyone knew something. Shame no one knew anything while this was going on, might have prevented some of this horror from occurring if they spoke up.
I'd like to see Teddy Long or Mac Davis go and report Vince McMahon to the police department. Or any billionaire in this country to any police department for that matter.
Kudos to Mr. Bill Apter on his comments, through out the interview. NO ONE should draw a conclusion on why the lady did what she did. The visible facts is, 1: Vince resigned. #2: Brock Lesner was "scrubbed" & "scratched from WWF/WWE plans. If Vince did not do anything, he wouldn't have resigned. And I cannot agree w/Teddy Long comments, concerning JL being a "influence". Let's not forget, alot of Vince history, occurred when JL was still "Johnny Ace". That's no joke/not meant to be funny.
You seem to be taking it as "Johnny introduced Vince to this and put him on this path" when its more like "They fed each other's perversions and encouraged each other".
Yea, everybody here sweating Teddy and giving him props for being consistent on Laurinitis but to me, he seems like he's on Vince's jock more than the poor girl was.
@@maggielusk6833 no no, we're not falling for the 'believe all women' crap just because. We've seen this movie. You're making excuses for a woman who is old enough to know better.
Where were all these people at, when the last set of allegations came out? If this ends, will there be others? it seems like when these things happen to people, its one at a time.
I am female, 60 years old. When I was a girl, I was “touched inappropriately “, before I knew that it was not right. I felt guilty, like I had brought it upon myself. At the age of 11 or 12, I feel today that the 50 year old man was wrong. But the man who bought me beer, I had to “pay up “ so to speak. Sick thinking. But, look at all the crap he did in the ring…, Trish Stratus stuff, dropping his pants for the kiss my ass thing, etc. I just think, if he’s willing to do that in front of the masses, what would he be capable of behind closed doors?
Why are guys saying "we need to see if it happened".. It happened and text messages are there. Whether it's consensual that need to be seen. But it happened
You don't know how lawsuits work, anyone can screen shot text messages and then enter them into the record. Now it has to be proven they came from Vinces phone and (if that is the case) her responses will be read and wheighed too during trial to show her intent and willing or non willingness to participate.
@@MissterX I agree. what about nda? How about johnL saying he is victim and probably pushing it on vince. Several others now talking to FBI. Since they have nda they can't open their mouth. Nobody is so dumb to doctor msgs so that whole case could be thrown out and also they can put defamation case on her.
@@MissterX Exactly we haven't seen any of her text messages. They aren't going to show everything. I'm sure there are other text messages to other people not just what we have seen.
@@scottvenenga3168 They can show everything for evidence if Vinces lawyer petitions for it and its allowed in. I wait to see a trial and a verdict before I judge people. Unless there's video.
The insensitivity directed at the victim is due to the sensationalizing of the circumstances regarding the situation. Imagine having just one child, a daughter and then at some point you and your spouse die leaving her to fend for herself without any other family members for her to turn to during her time of mourning and grieving and then some dude like Vince shows up in her life and puts her in the position Ms. Grant was put in. What man in the same type of situation who's alive and becomes aware of his daughter being taken advantage of like that would allow Vince and John to still walk the face of the earth?
She went through a tough time, losing two parents is really rough. That being said she was a 40 year woman not some young girl that should be unemployed and financially dependant on her parents. They lived in vince mcmahons building. They must've been very wealthy. I hear they were facing bankruptcy which Is unfortunate but again she is a middle aged woman. She must have been very spoiled to have no career prospects or employment. Living off of her parents entirely which she must've became accustomed to . I wonder what happend to lose both parents. An accident? Suicide its a crazy situation to be in.
@@LeftHoookLuke So what she was 40 years old living at home and her parents were going bankrupt that has nothing to do with her being taken advantage of. If she was living at home with her parents at 40 there was a reason for it. She may physically be 40 but not mentally. I think she is mentally ill because her actions are similar to someone I knew who had multiple personality disorder or Dissociative identity disorder which is associated with overwhelming experiences, traumatic events and/or abuse that occurred in childhood. She has had more than a few overwhelming and traumatic experiences before she met Vince and he being a neighbor more than likely a noisy neighbor probably already knew what was going on with her. He probably had his eye on her before it all went down. Most people make it a point to know who their neighbors are. Who knows if Vince didn't use his own daughter to get the Macho Man to sign a deal? He doesn't think much of her if he was willing to do an incest angle with her. Vince isn't all up there nor is Janel.
I have no reason to form this opinion other than my own cynicism, but I believe someone in the company knew about this NDA, and wanted to get Vince out of TKO, so they were able to stop the NDA payments internally, which prompted the victim to go public with it. That way he can be ousted without struggle. I say that because it was weird how this happened at the same time the Rock got on the board. Not saying he was in the right. It sounds like he is a monster.
That is 200 different high end escorts or 1 high end escort for 200 days. 1,000,000 dived by 5,000 is 200. So if he paid $3M that’s 600 days or 200 days for 1M. Your math is off lol
You could get one fine escort for 2 thousand bucks a day 😅😅. But vince had his poop fetish 🤯😖, he could have still paid for a poop escort. Imagine his grandchildren, pop pop likes pooopies
I'd like to hear what Mark "The Undertaker" Calloway has to say about all this. I'm not saying I think he was involved in any of it, I severely doubt that, but as close as he and Vince were, you'd have to think if there were things like this going on, He would know about it. Again, NOT that he's involved in it, but just that he would probably be in the know. I'd be really interested to hear what he has to say.
We all would, but you're not gonna hear anything particularly interesting from him publicly on this topic beyond the generic lines everyone uses. He's refused to get into it at his live Deadman shows so far apparently
@@phoenixmodellingphotography Id say you're right. Id forgot about him doing those one deadman shows... You know people have to be shouting out questions.
@@phoenixmodellingphotography And you really can't blame these guys trying to distance themselves from it.. especially not knowing what all else is going to come out. Particularly as bad as what's already came out sounds IF it's true.
I wonder if "Da UN-DER-TAY-KAA" knew anything considering how close he and Vince are? Edited: Typo - due to my large fingers having to type on a small keyboard.
With Bill talking about Shane either knowing or not but remember Shane’s storyline when he returned saying Vince screwed up huge and he has a lockbox with documents inside! Was Shane working or shooting at the time? Makes you think
Whoever chooses to do a documentary, really good one. And exposes wwe from beginning, and gets all the scandals put in it. It will be the largest streamed doc in history. Promise you that. Now get to it
Netflix has been working on documentary on Vince for a few years now. It keeps getting held up because of all the crazy shit. We will see it when this is all over. They are gonna get everything
@@flyingunpan50 I wouldn't work for someone who did that. Like I've been saying about this. No one gave a shit what Vince did, as long as they got their money.
@johnnymedrano7081 Yeah and you can't expect them to believe a woman because they are a woman. She consented the moment she accepted money and signed an NDA. Sure vince went to far but she still consented so he could have his way.
If I'm not mistaken, this isn't a new one. All this actually stems from the first time Vince left last year. It's just now that everything is finally being made public and this is what came out of the investigation. I'm a firm believer this is why Shane and Stephanie left the company.
Vince I'm not surprised, but I never imagined Brock Lesnar would go down like this. The Taker streak, the Goldberg feud, the Eddie Guerrero feud, The Cena Feud. A career heading in a hall of fame direction, all gone.....all for nothing. That's a damn shame.
@@redeastwood4850 former ufc heavyweight champion was in contract negotiations. Pretty well sums it up to Brock Lesnar. Don't need to be a journalist to figure that out and no it's not cain and riddle was never heavyweight champion. The timing adds up to Brock.
@@redeastwood4850 all I got that he did was Vince was pumping her out to Brock for contract negotiations. Brock said he liked messaged her and told her to send a video of her pi$$ing. She did he called her a bi$ch . They were suppose to meet up but a snow storm kept him from being able to meet up. That is all I got from the 67 pages.
They aren't really allegations anymore Bill! Lauranitis has already essentially admitted its true because he is claiming to be a victim of Vince too, so he is confirming the "allegations"!
That’s not proof whatsoever; false corroboration happens frequently. These are still allegations and whether you like it or not, Vince McMahon should have the presumption of innocence until actually proven otherwise.
I tuned into this to hopefully learn something new and the only thing I learned was what a fair, straight up, individual teddy long is. Of every clip I've watched my long was the first person to remind me that everyone is innocent until proven guilty as well as the young lady and reminding us we don't really know both individuals or what transpired until we get to a court of law. Bravo playah, bravo!
If there was no Vince then there would be less wrestling on TV and everywhere else which in reality would have been a better thing if you look at all the lives that were ruined and cut short. I like wrestling but I would rather see a wrestler live out a blue collar life as a construction worker or something than see them ruin their lives for our entertainment. Now that's something I learned and figured out just by seeing all the history and stuff that happened for the past 40 years or so. So many great names that would be alive today although they wouldn't be famous if they werent wrestlers but they would be alive and maybe have families. That's the truth.
This situation is a power thing. It doesn't give him nearly as much power having sex with an escort. Rita Chatterton Ring boy scandal Pat Patterson Scandal Ashley Massaro Lita Vince had a lot of power and she was financially instable. If you read the whole story and know stuff about psychology in regards to manipulation this is all textbook manipulation.
Ashley Massaro who left WWE in 2009? Ashley Massaro who was part of that silly concussion lawsuit in 2016? Ashley Massaro who sent a letter to WWE apologising for being a part of that suit? That Ashley Massaro who died in 2019? What about her?
@@basedelon bruh, the WWE claimed that she apologized after she died, and her lawyer said they didn’t know anything about it. Your claim that the case was “silly” is your own bias language. And she was raped on a tribute to the troops show and after one of Vince’s doctors gave her a rape kit and promised not to tell anyone, the doctor told Vince and Vince told her to keep it to herself as to burn their bridge with the military. It’s a completely incredible statement from the WWE and it was made in the midst of an ongoing lawsuit. You are a moron.
I have heard several people commenting on this case who have said they consider her to be a willing participant. How willing can you be when the person you are in the relationship with controls your ability to pay your bills? Her choice was either participate and accept the gifts, or be homeless. I think many people would have made the same choice that she did at the time
Im afraid that TKO will try to erase every bit of history before they bought the company and take the WWE network down and all the classic ppvs. I hope that doesn't happen
@@Cyko..Netflix’s deal didn’t include the tape library. The whole tape library thing was Vince’s baby, TKO or any other company could care less about a SMALL number of fans who actually watch vintage content. I think they’ll just shutter it and will do like the NFL does with legacy content, just hack together and release documentaries when they feel like it versus offering up entire games uncut.
Im sure ive seen that Vince stopped paying her because there was an annonomous tip. I think the tip came before he stopped paying? He's obviously not going to continue to pay her once the story has leaked.
His texts imply otherwise. They went on for years. He paid various settlements out and this is not the first person to accuse him. He also exhibits behavior you could see in someone who would act like this including his need for control over everything around him. Even Johnny Ace is now trying to claim he's a victim of Vince as well.
I remembered Teddy & Laurinaitis in 2011 & 2012 they always had a suspicion that they had a personal issue even the promos and segments they had they not liking one and another.
Sixty seven pages is short. We have multiple Federal Protected Civil Rights, Liberties, Property and Employment Rights Actions against multiple U.S. States and we have Filed over Two Hundred Pages of Sworn Court Documents. If this woman made any false statements then she will be Indicted on Federal Charges, Title 18 U.S.C. Section 1001. This woman is not a victim. She is forty five years of age.
67 pages is a huge filing. Don't act like you know what you're talking about, because you don't. Go ahead and side with the pervert. You make me almost as sick as he does.@@WilliamOfficeSupply9832
Teddy Long is the most logical and sensible man I've heard speak on this. There's a lot of angles to look at this thing from, and regardless of who you are and what you think, in this country we MUST BE Innocent until proven guilty. As for Bill talking about putting this girl on trial, I think it's ABSOLUTELY fair to ask questions about her. Bill said "She's the victim here"... but the truth is she's the ALLEGED victim. We're all arm chair quarterbacking. There's not one of us who knows what really went on and who all was involved or in the know. This whole #Me Too thing has had some really bad side effects. You can't just say "We must believe all women"... You just can't. People are people, whether they're male, female, or otherwise... and the fact of the matter is, some people lie. I'm not saying this woman IS lying, but we don't know... It's GOT to be considered a possibility. Either we want the truth, or we just want to see somebody's head roll. We shouldn't be making judgments either way until it's all out in the open and been ruled on. And to be honest, now days, even then you can't really be sure what really happened. Only those involved really know.
Exactly. Not saying Vince is innocent or not, but people just start talking as if everything that was said by her is all the 100% truth like if it's impossible for her to be lying for money like if this isn't done commonly all the time and just start bashing someone's name without hearing both sides. Just like what happened with Johnny Depp they bashed his name, cut ties, and then turned out he was innocent lol
Everyone is judging Vince but we have no idea of this woman’s past which is a long one. She was 40 when this happened so she most likely had numerous relationships prior to Vince and who knows what she was into. Has anyone spoke to her past relationships of her ex boyfriends to find out her previous behavior. She could have been a swinger or into kinky stuff. There are a ton of women into this stuff. There are numerous websites with people into this stuff and Ton of this type of porn. People are acting as if she was 20 with no life experience. There are women out there that go after Rich men all the time for money. Why is everyone taking this woman’s side of the story which is right now one sided written by her attorney. Everyone should wait until the depositions are taken during this lawsuit to determine what is true. She may be ripped apart when she is deposed. This is currently only a civil suit so why is everyone assuming she is the victim as if it was a criminal case where a prosecutor investigated it and decided to bring charges. Some women out there today are worse than men. Just because your parents are wealthy doesn’t mean that your upbringing or family was normal. Most wealthy people often have more issues than poor people.
@@xSupremev2 Yep, Dead on... Johnny got his name dragged through the shit pile, turns out she was a damn liar, and yet you don't see THAT plastered all over the place like you did them saying him was a monster just based on an accusation. I mean damn, I agree that we need to take allegations seriously, but you investigate them... instead of just running with an allegation like its a conviction.
Teddy Long years ago never spoke up about male wrestlers calling young girls RATS FOR SEX so he's just as,responsible for this kind of horrible shit happening in pro Wrestling
You underestimate Mr. Teddy. He may very well have talked to them already. Or this may be the indicator that he would like to. Well Teddy...you got your chance. Use it or lose it. I might can't get you justice, but I might could get you revenge.
@Outlawtorn3711 Oh I am certain he has. But if the Feds are going to be asking such questions as "who knew what, and when they knew it, and what did they do when they knew it" now would be a good time for any WWE employee or ex employees to not admit to seeing anything unless they talk to their lawyer first. That's all.
@manbearpig7359 first of all for anyone to be shocked about things like this in the wrestling business going on you've been living under a rock. Most wrestlers marriages fail for more than just being on the road alot. Drugs, murder, sex. It's all synonymous with wrestling. I'm not saying Vince is completely innocent but I certainly don't think he's that freaking stupid either but who knows. I know from reading those text messages though that Vinces grammar is piss poor which makes me suspicious even more.
Holding someone accountable and indicting people are two different things. Conservatives don’t seem to understand words and concepts so it’s easy to see how you two got confused. Op was right that if an unrelated 3rd party knew details it’s not a far stretch to assume family members knew details as well. Maybe even more as they were high up on exec boards and had more access to information about the goings on than teddy could have dreamed of. Regardless they will all get investigated and if they are responsible for committing or enabling Vince and friends they’ll be held accountable as well
No she's 44,born in 1980!They wanted to portray that she was a young innocent girl, never had a job.This was a rich bitch who never worked an her parents died an she was broke!So she hooked up with Vince!!
Teddy also claimed that he has more information about more vile shit quite frankly seems like teddy was aware of situations like this and just chose not to bother saying anything due to getting a paycheck from Vince so if he couldn't say no why would he expect anybody else.
Teddy has never changed his story about anything since he started doing the shoot interviews 20 years ago, dude doesn’t care about being in good graces with the corporate world or not. He just wants to be honest.
I wish we had more journalists like him..And you know he's not a bit surprised by this.
Teddy was a good manager. Wasn’t he also GM or something at one point? I know he was also a ref when Droz got paralyzed.
@@ponokanakaAt one point? He was gm for many years bruh
The best moment of teddy not giving an F is when he stopped counting in that one match because it wasn't supposed to be the finish, and you can tell he is getting chewed out, so he just takes his communicator off!
@@schmuelgoldsteinwhich episode, event is that? I want to watch it.
Teddy must be loving this. He's openly hated JL forever. And probably rightfully so.
as much as he hates flair lol
Even more than JR? JR spoke up for Ace in a WWE front office job & look what he did to him.
Teddy Long staying on JL neck like he should.
never like JL either. always seemed like a person who you did not want to be around for long, same with Vince.
Probably???? When he did this crap while his wife battled cancer he certified himself as a pure breed POS.
Teddy Long has been consistent about John Laurinaitis for the longest.
Pun? lol
Teddy's been preaching this same thing for years!!!!!! It's a shame it took this long for em to catch these horrible pieces a trash.
but he protecting vince too much so his opinion is kinda silly
I agree but again innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. Laurinaitis was a racist piece a shit and always will be. Lest we forget Vince was pretty aggressive to get his way all the time. But I can see your point of view on this. Teddy is a stand up guy but Apter looked almost like he was gonna snap.
If he knew about stuff he was doing and didn't do anything about it , that's wrong.
Teddy needs to write a book about everything he’s witnessed 😮
I would read the hell out of it😂😂
I would buy a copy without a doubt.
The grandchildren I can sympathize for, but Linda, Shane or Stephanie absolutely not. People like to pretend Linda didn't help cover everything up Vince did in the 80s and WELL into and through the bulk of the 90s. Shane and Stephanie may not have been involved, but they were aware of more than enough. The family is gross and dirty. Money doesn't make a carnie stop being a carnie.
I’m not so convinced with Shane knowing, he went out of his way to separate himself from the family business in the late 2000s into the 2010s. Shane is probably the only family member who got screwed over the worst, Vince never respected or listened to him because if he had they would own UFC.
Steph is interesting because I think she voted against him returning to the WWE board before the sale and the min the Announcement came out she resigned swiftly.
Steph knew, She's been avoiding him for years now. Paul? I think Steph would threaten Divorce if he had anything to do with her Dad.
The money only makes it worse. People don't have that much money unless they're morally bankrupt.
Why do you think Shane left?
Answer: - Vince
Imagine how he treated his wife. He was likely passing off this stuff as "stories" for TV
11:37 an escort isn’t his employee. He can’t control them like he the women he had under contract. He wanted to take advantage of inexperienced vulnerable women.
A vulnerable woman in her late 30s
@@basedelon the age doesn’t have anything to do with it. Your life situation has more to do with it than age. She doesn’t sound like she was very bright but she did lose her parents and doesn’t seem like she has much guidance after that.
It’s not hard to believe she was groomed into a toy by Vince though. He probably made her strip down to her bra and panties and made her bark like a dog like he did to Trish. Vince was/is sick in the head so don’t put anything past him.
@@basedelondoesn't seem like late 40's to me. Honestly seems like early 20's. Also, someone can be vulnerable regardless of age.
@@basedelon Vulnerability happens at any age, yes.
@@sproductionsinc is "vulnerable" a medical condition? How's she vulnerable? Define it please.
I have one thing to say about "why not a high end escort". My speculation is it wasn't about sex. It was about power and control over people.
1OO% correct.
It's weird that this has to be said.
@@sproductionsinc yea this whole thing is weird
Teddy Long is so glad to hear about John Laurinaitis troubles, Karmas coming player.there's not many rassleing stars I believe, but I'd believe what Teddy Long says
I like the fact that Teddy L. ain't saying sht about Vince yet, but everyone else has had to condemn him LOL. Teddy's like "im blk fuk yall" and they ain't saying sht about him either. Several friends of mine shared this vid and we all said basically the same thing:
"LOL Teddy ain't condemning Vince yet and NOBODY will say anything about it" 😅
That's fine with me, though. That's how you identify the tree by its fruit.
Didn’t Vince help cover up a murder, allegedly
The Superfly deal.
That was documented in Dark Side.
I heard he kicked a puppy too.
@@exspiravit6920 Did it belong to Debra?
@@ignatiusjackson235dude that's not funny
People say that Vince losing his mind due to age or CTE but I think he has always been this way he just never showed anybody
Yep, accusations going back to 1992.
No he showed people with all the storylines and things he made people do for the sake of the show. Told on himself multiple times but people were like “oh that’s just wrestling”
@eamonnmaccionnaith5761 actually goes back to the 80s when he was accused of raping a female referee. The entertainment industry is full of despicable and depraved people preying on the weak and guillable.
Trump will pardon him 2025
My boy teddy..the coolest dude ever lol he's one guy I really miss seeing on WWE TV
I don’t care what reasons anyone has…….anyone who feels the need to SHARE a woman with your friends, and get off on passing her around, is not normal.
Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none
@@howard1852 figures a guy named Howard would say that.
You must be young, there are whores and sugar babies. She consented
@@javier77th no need for a Mexican standoff Javier
@@howard1852 ay yi yi
This is a good program. Good audio, professional, not talking over one another, busting each other's chops...good shit
Thank you
@@RoadTripAfterHours Your welcome
He stopped paying once his legal team told him that it was unenforceable, which came out once the hush money payments were audited. Thats how i understand it.
And since it was Unenforceable She could bring this lawsuit if she has pictures.
Text messages And vince was using the money from the The investors he's in Trouble, because it's a publicly traded company.
Consenting adults are entitled to have whatever type of relationship they please, but that’s impossible when one person is dependent upon the other for income and livelihood.
I was going to agree but then I realized you could easily be describing marriage as far as financial dependence.
@@VindicatorMike Abusive as well
I’ve known teddy a long time and he’s not known for saying things - maybe one or two words tops. Teddy says it, I believe it.
interesting, cornette and dutch both said Rhonda was right about Pritchard and Vince
Vince stopped paying the NDA when he got caught for all the other NDAs. He couldn't keep spending money once accounts were under the microscope. It baffles me though how billionaires always need someone else's money. He could have given her two million from his own account
That's what I'm saying
And made that 2 million right back
Teddy just shooting it straight.
As a survivor as a long-term SA, thank you, Bill, for being so compassionate, appropriate, and respectful about this topic and the victims' experience.
There is a huge power imbalance that exists between a billionaire who knew her since childhood and then stepped in when her parents died and offered work and financial/emotional stability, and an employee that becomes a "gun to the head", especially when a culture of silencing women already exists within a company.
Too alot of people, Vince is big, mean & loud. to some it's terrifying. To some it's embarrassing to the point they are afraid to tell anyone and then they think they have to carry on ... especially by a man, who puts you in a position that you know you have no experience in, move from dept to dept at whim ... slowly controlling you....
... there doesn't have to be a 'gun' pointed at your head. psychopaths just needs to look in your eyes - see what you need to hear & say it to make you believe them.
Him and Only him bc the other 2 didn’t!
Nobody cares . Cry more
I love how so many people must ALWAYS infantilize females. Yup. there is just no way possible she could have a willing participant.
@@morrnmanderson7376 She didn’t have Agency in her life. That’s Very different than infantilising her.
Chyna better be in the HOF by herself this year. Triple H has no excuse now
Exactly!! Cus with these allegations Vince don’t even need to be mentioned anymore just like they did Chyna when she was alive
She was inducted I saw a video
0:36 THAT WAS HILARIOUS! I loved reactions, shout out to the legendary Bill Apter!! Gentlemen, GREAT VIDEO !
That comment made around 4 minutes into the video is ironic. Vince McMahon's grandkids doing a Google search to see what's going on with him. Sex trafficking, rape, sexual assault, defecation and more. Yet, I recall all the times when WWF legend Chyna was still alive and fans wanted so desperately for her to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Creative reportedly also wanted Chyna to come back to the roster for the DX reunion. Gamers wanted her to be a playable character in the videogames. All of these requests were denied time and time again. HHH was asked about this directly and gave some BS excuse about Chyna appearing in some porn was not appropriate history for a Hall of Famer. HHH literally said he did not want his children, Vince's grandkids, to do a Google search on Chyna and find the porn she was in. He said this with a straight face, while ignoring the fact that his buddy X-Pac was in the WWE Hall of Fame even though X-Pac was in the porn film with Chyna. They were worried about the grandkids going on the internet and finding Chyna's porn. I wonder how worried they are about the grandkids going online and finding out their grandpa has partaken in rape, sex trafficking and more.
From what I know her parents lived in Vince’s condo and he knew her since she was younger. Her parents were financially stable until they lost everything filed bankruptcy and both passed away he kind of took advantage of her dark times.
Technically he didn’t do anything wrong………but morally you’re absolutely right. Preying on the weak in any form is some scumbag shit. Now do I feel she should be held accountable? Absolutely because you’re a 40 year old woman and you agreed to participate and you knew this was a long time married man. Vince cut the water off and now you wanna raise some hell. None of this surprises me and I’ll even go on to say it wouldn’t surprise me if we heard some our favorite all timers involved in some shit like this as well.
@@-sdot83 Well Brock Lesner is always allegedly involved so....
@-sdot83 She may have started out as a willing participant. She may have not known just how dark, dangerous and depraved his fantasy/perversions really were and may have never agreed to it. But, remember that consent may be rescinded at any point. And she points out that she did repeatedly tell them to stop and they did not. Plus, Vince broke the NDA and that gave her the chance to speak out about what happened.
@@morrnmanderson7376 involved how? Expand please.
@-sdot83 I see you didn't read the texts or the 66 page lawsuit. He would literally message her and tell her he told these guys if she said No it meant yes. He groomed her and used his power to force her into things.
He told her how he could ruin her and how if she ever told or stopped how her pictures and everything would be in the public domain. He would text her about showing her pictures around even. Stop victim blaming
This is going to go to court regardless if Vince or TKO don't want it to. This is not going to be swept under the rug.
IT will be up to her, She wont get anymore money whether it goes to court or not. and it is a CIVIL TRIAL. So, it basically is already swept under the rug. She does not have to prove ANYTHING beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is why they went this way, she will either get paid before or after the trial. It is not anything other than a money grab, no one will go to jail, unless it is AFTER this trial. If she wanted him to go to jail, she could have just had a rape kit done after ANY Of the times she was raped, and he would be in jail. He never used protection, and neither did JL. So all their DNA would be in her or on her. End of story. Court or not, no one is seeing the inside of a jail cell in this. She will get dragged through the dirt and most likely suffer MORE in the trial. Vinces's lawyer is going to eat her up and spit her out, Whether or not he wins won't matter because it won't hurt Vince either way, going to trial is only going to destroy her even more. "Strictly speaking, a defendant doesn't go to jail from a civil lawsuit, but a person can go to jail for violating court orders of a civil case."
People keep thinking that this is a criminal lawsuit because of the acts Vince did. This is a civil lawsuit because he broke his agreement to pay her money.
@@stevenjames3242no if the defense attorney decideds to pick up the chargers it won't matter what she says
@@stevenjames3242 He's under investigation for trafficking. I think you're living in the past. That's not the way it's going to go and you have no earthly idea what is up her sleeve. She likely held back
Federal authorities are already investigating Vince over the trafficking allegations so I think criminal charges will be filed at some point
it's kinda funny that Teddy went from "i want to wait to give my opinion" to "laurinaitis probably influenced vince cause he's guilty as hell... if it's true"
No need to write my comment😂
Johnny Ace has a bad record especially with Teddy and Vince could convince some of the most uber ALPHA males to do some crazy things so...
Teddy Long: "There are rules we have to follow. Innocent until proven guilty."
Also Teddy Long: "Oh, that n***a's guilty as hell. I'm sayin' it right now."
This is exactly what I was thinking. Kissing McMahons deplorable ass saying he has the utmost respect for him and doesn't want to give an opinion until it's decided in court but turns around and defiantly says Johnny is guilty simply because he hates him. My opinion is they're most likely both scum of the earth, but don't say one thing and immediately contradict yourself.
He did state that it was his opinion so he is entitled to reveal it in the discussion
He's certainly entitled to his opinion, but the fact is he's still talking out both sides of his mouth here, and holding different people to different standards based on his personal distaste. I'm not offended by it, I just think it's funny.
Teddy (regarding Vince): There are rules we have to follow... Innocent until proven guilty. We'll see what comes out in the wash.
Also Teddy (regarding Johnny Ace, 5 minutes later): I'm callin' it right now, that mofo GUILTY as hell! He probably orchestrated the whole thing and manipulated Vince into it!
If Teddy knows more than what is already out there, he should tell everything. I hope everybody from within who has knowledge of anything should come forward at this point. This is wrong on so many levels. I used drugs for a good ten year stretch in Florida and there was this guy who sold drugs (Thomas Vana) out of Cape Coral, FL (hes rotting in jail now) and he had about 15-20 girls extremely dependant on heroin, oxys, roxys etc and this guy used to make them do extremely degrading things just for a bag of dope so they wouldnt be sick. It made me sick but I never said anything because he used to give me good deals. I was asked to testify in court against him and I did, i felt compelled to out of respect for those girls, a few of which died in their twenties. I've been 11 years sober now from heroin which made my decision easier. He will probably be in jail for life.
Congrats on your sobriety. Best wishes on future success of staying clean.
Nice. A success story.
"I never said anything because he gave me good deals..." You are just as shitty as your dealer then
Mac its not about paying for sex its about power and control. Hes a sociopath!
@maggielusk6833
Dark triad candidate if there ever was one. He’s convinced of his own innocence and righteousness in every one of his disputes. Whenever someone exposes the truth he plays the victim card and in the past always had the power to get away with it.
Now we can see how he reacts when he’s obviously in the wrong, obviously abusing his power. Looking back to past allegations and accusations we can see he’s done this countless times to abuse and manipulate both men and women. I’m not a fan of what this woman did, but the courage she’s showing now is admirable.
It’s also ironic that just like Hillary Clinton, VM’s wife used her influence to protect her husband at the expense of his victims. They’re 2 peas in a pod ready to be fed to the pigs.
he was sexually molested by his mum as a child and violently beaten by his step dad , his view on life is distorted beyond repair and isn’t satisfied by regular sex
@chamuuemura5314 well said my thought entirely!
Bingo!
Yep. As a psychopath or sociopath he has no empathy, and other people are just toys for him to use and play with.
Mac, this isn’t about getting off. This is about power, control, and manipulation.
Why else hire a woara? But he should have paid.
This is like spoof of a Livestream, all the back peddling and watching what they say for fear of backlash. The bill apter old man routine made me smile at the beginning
Mac’s math is way off. $1,000,000, at $5,000 per pop, is 200 encounters. Not 20,000.
I was using Steiner math, lol
I couldn’t ask for a better response!
Well, he was a good singer
Numbers aren't his strong point. Ha.
Mac has a great voice but math clearly isn’t his strong suit.
He asked why didn't Vince just buy an escort, it's about having power over her
"I'm vince macmahon! I can buy and sell every damn one of u!" Mister macmahon wasn't "working"
Vince wants to be God so to speak.
You can have power over an escort. Vince wasn’t very smart to bring that mess into the business.
@@pinklady4703 Not really, you can have "pretend play time" power over her I guess, but that's far too weak for someone who craves actual power as much as we know he does
@@phoenixmodellingphotography well .. the power is gone now lol.
Vince may have ruined his reputation, and maybe his family even more.
Sad, isn't it? Everything he's accomplished and the wonderful life he has/had and he pissed all over it. Vince could've realy left the wwe and gone into the porn industry with some of the stuff in those texts.
I personally can't get past the fact that Teddy has all of this (certainly well warranted) heat for Johnny Ace, while still having all of this respect and reverence for Vince. It's really not adding up for me.
When he says that, the weird look he gets from Apter is gold.
Exactly he’s corporate pet
The Mac Militant really *is* coming to set it off!
U know 😂teddy has some good dirt!
COMEONANGETITONNNN
He defended vince? Teddy is a broke dick mofo, defending a monster 👻 for his legends contract
All of a sudden everyone knew something. Shame no one knew anything while this was going on, might have prevented some of this horror from occurring if they spoke up.
I'd like to see Teddy Long or Mac Davis go and report Vince McMahon to the police department. Or any billionaire in this country to any police department for that matter.
Kudos to Mr. Bill Apter on his comments, through out the interview. NO ONE should draw a conclusion on why the lady did what she did. The visible facts is, 1: Vince resigned. #2: Brock Lesner was "scrubbed" & "scratched from WWF/WWE plans. If Vince did not do anything, he wouldn't have resigned. And I cannot agree w/Teddy Long comments, concerning JL being a "influence". Let's not forget, alot of Vince history, occurred when JL was still "Johnny Ace". That's no joke/not meant to be funny.
Love hearing your take on things , this is just going to keep growing and growing.
"Vince was influenced by Johnny" is the most outlandish thing I've heard since this all came out, lmao. Are you kidding
hahaha I agree with you wholeheartedly
Disgusting!
Bury John but don't defend Vince😮
You seem to be taking it as "Johnny introduced Vince to this and put him on this path" when its more like "They fed each other's perversions and encouraged each other".
Yea, everybody here sweating Teddy and giving him props for being consistent on Laurinitis but to me, he seems like he's on Vince's jock more than the poor girl was.
It's 200 nights at $5k/night, not 20k nights.
Yeah, his maths needs some work. Ha.
that is only 1 million LOL. He was supposed to pay 3 million to just this girl, he already paid 12 million.
@@eamonnmaccionnaith5761 That is only 1 Million, he was supposed to pay 3 million and he already paid out 12 million to others. Try to keep up. HAHA
Yeah definitely didn't learn his Steiner Math there.
Says a lot more about the people blaming her than it does about her!
She wasn't some weak-at-the-knees 18 year old fresh outta college or an invalid, she was a grown ass woman in her late 30s. Don't make excuses.
@@basedelon Another Vincel excuses excuses you people want to get your heads looked at or mb your just sociopaths like your hero.
@@maggielusk6833 no no, we're not falling for the 'believe all women' crap just because. We've seen this movie. You're making excuses for a woman who is old enough to know better.
They still scared VM will return.
He stopped paying because he assumed she was the one who leaked the story initially.
This dudes math is a ohhhhh only off by 18,800 nights!
$5000 into $1,000,000 is 200.
Off by 19,800 nights.
John Laurinaitis, tonight you will go one on one with the Undertaker!!!
The Dump Taker.
Where were all these people at, when the last set of allegations came out? If this ends, will there be others? it seems like when these things happen to people, its one at a time.
I am female, 60 years old. When I was a girl, I was “touched inappropriately “, before I knew that it was not right. I felt guilty, like I had brought it upon myself. At the age of 11 or 12, I feel today that the 50 year old man was wrong. But the man who bought me beer, I had to “pay up “ so to speak. Sick thinking. But, look at all the crap he did in the ring…, Trish Stratus stuff, dropping his pants for the kiss my ass thing, etc. I just think, if he’s willing to do that in front of the masses, what would he be capable of behind closed doors?
Why are guys saying "we need to see if it happened".. It happened and text messages are there. Whether it's consensual that need to be seen. But it happened
You don't know how lawsuits work, anyone can screen shot text messages and then enter them into the record. Now it has to be proven they came from Vinces phone and (if that is the case) her responses will be read and wheighed too during trial to show her intent and willing or non willingness to participate.
@@MissterX I agree. what about nda? How about johnL saying he is victim and probably pushing it on vince. Several others now talking to FBI. Since they have nda they can't open their mouth. Nobody is so dumb to doctor msgs so that whole case could be thrown out and also they can put defamation case on her.
@@MissterX Exactly we haven't seen any of her text messages. They aren't
going to show everything. I'm sure there are other text messages to other people not just what we have seen.
@@scottvenenga3168 They can show everything for evidence if Vinces lawyer petitions for it and its allowed in. I wait to see a trial and a verdict before I judge people. Unless there's video.
Know one is saying that. You're obviously a troll trying to bait men into arguing with you
The insensitivity directed at the victim is due to the sensationalizing of the circumstances
regarding the situation. Imagine having just one child, a daughter and then at some point
you and your spouse die leaving her to fend for herself without any other family members
for her to turn to during her time of mourning and grieving and then some dude like Vince
shows up in her life and puts her in the position Ms. Grant was put in. What man in the
same type of situation who's alive and becomes aware of his daughter being taken advantage
of like that would allow Vince and John to still walk the face of the earth?
She went through a tough time, losing two parents is really rough. That being said she was a 40 year woman not some young girl that should be unemployed and financially dependant on her parents. They lived in vince mcmahons building. They must've been very wealthy. I hear they were facing bankruptcy which Is unfortunate but again she is a middle aged woman. She must have been very spoiled to have no career prospects or employment. Living off of her parents entirely which she must've became accustomed to .
I wonder what happend to lose both parents. An accident? Suicide its a crazy situation to be in.
@@LeftHoookLuke So what she was 40 years old living at home and her parents were going
bankrupt that has nothing to do with her being taken advantage of. If she was living at home
with her parents at 40 there was a reason for it. She may physically be 40 but not mentally. I
think she is mentally ill because her actions are similar to someone I knew who had multiple
personality disorder or Dissociative identity disorder which is associated with overwhelming
experiences, traumatic events and/or abuse that occurred in childhood. She has had more
than a few overwhelming and traumatic experiences before she met Vince and he being a
neighbor more than likely a noisy neighbor probably already knew what was going on with
her. He probably had his eye on her before it all went down. Most people make it a point to
know who their neighbors are. Who knows if Vince didn't use his own daughter to get the
Macho Man to sign a deal? He doesn't think much of her if he was willing to do an incest
angle with her. Vince isn't all up there nor is Janel.
@@jamesearlcash1758 You just made a sh*t ton of allegations without a shred of evidence to back any of it up.......
@@jamesearlcash1758 the first thing you said that makes sense - yes mentally ill.
Alright, calm down white knight...
I have no reason to form this opinion other than my own cynicism, but I believe someone in the company knew about this NDA, and wanted to get Vince out of TKO, so they were able to stop the NDA payments internally, which prompted the victim to go public with it. That way he can be ousted without struggle.
I say that because it was weird how this happened at the same time the Rock got on the board.
Not saying he was in the right. It sounds like he is a monster.
That is 200 different high end escorts or 1 high end escort for 200 days. 1,000,000 dived by 5,000 is 200. So if he paid $3M that’s 600 days or 200 days for 1M. Your math is off lol
You could get one fine escort for 2 thousand bucks a day 😅😅. But vince had his poop fetish 🤯😖, he could have still paid for a poop escort. Imagine his grandchildren, pop pop likes pooopies
How did he get 20,000? Ha
Added an extra 0
people were victimized and or murdered and YOUR concern is the math....your as sick as v.k.m.
I'd like to hear what Mark "The Undertaker" Calloway has to say about all this. I'm not saying I think he was involved in any of it, I severely doubt that, but as close as he and Vince were, you'd have to think if there were things like this going on, He would know about it. Again, NOT that he's involved in it, but just that he would probably be in the know. I'd be really interested to hear what he has to say.
We all would, but you're not gonna hear anything particularly interesting from him publicly on this topic beyond the generic lines everyone uses. He's refused to get into it at his live Deadman shows so far apparently
@@phoenixmodellingphotography Id say you're right. Id forgot about him doing those one deadman shows... You know people have to be shouting out questions.
@@phoenixmodellingphotography And you really can't blame these guys trying to distance themselves from it.. especially not knowing what all else is going to come out. Particularly as bad as what's already came out sounds IF it's true.
I wonder if "Da UN-DER-TAY-KAA" knew anything considering how close he and Vince are?
Edited: Typo - due to my large fingers having to type on a small keyboard.
Apparently the character Vince McMahon played on TV was more like the person he is outside the wrestling ring
With Bill talking about Shane either knowing or not but remember Shane’s storyline when he returned saying Vince screwed up huge and he has a lockbox with documents inside! Was Shane working or shooting at the time? Makes you think
Whoever chooses to do a documentary, really good one. And exposes wwe from beginning, and gets all the scandals put in it. It will be the largest streamed doc in history. Promise you that. Now get to it
Netflix has been working on documentary on Vince for a few years now. It keeps getting held up because of all the crazy shit. We will see it when this is all over. They are gonna get everything
@Radikaltruth505 not gonna happen. They supposedly scratched it when they decided to give em 5billion
@@coreycochran8011 oh I did not know that. And that totally makes sense to shelve it too.
If Teddy knew, why didnt he say anything? He is also complicit in it also.
If your boss brought a young woman to work and gave her a job would ypu think anything of it?
@@flyingunpan50 I wouldn't work for someone who did that. Like I've been saying about this. No one gave a shit what Vince did, as long as they got their money.
@johnnymedrano7081 Yeah and you can't expect them to believe a woman because they are a woman. She consented the moment she accepted money and signed an NDA. Sure vince went to far but she still consented so he could have his way.
I love Bill. You are the best!!!
If I'm not mistaken, this isn't a new one. All this actually stems from the first time Vince left last year. It's just now that everything is finally being made public and this is what came out of the investigation. I'm a firm believer this is why Shane and Stephanie left the company.
Vince I'm not surprised, but I never imagined Brock Lesnar would go down like this.
The Taker streak, the Goldberg feud, the Eddie Guerrero feud, The Cena Feud. A career heading in a hall of fame direction, all gone.....all for nothing.
That's a damn shame.
Everyone is alluding to BL being involved, but no one's saying details. Without getting your comment banned, what did he do?
@@redeastwood4850forreal I'm trying to figure out too
@@redeastwood4850 former ufc heavyweight champion was in contract negotiations. Pretty well sums it up to Brock Lesnar. Don't need to be a journalist to figure that out and no it's not cain and riddle was never heavyweight champion. The timing adds up to Brock.
@@joehickman624 I got the part of that it was him, but what did he do to this lady?
@@redeastwood4850 all I got that he did was Vince was pumping her out to Brock for contract negotiations. Brock said he liked messaged her and told her to send a video of her pi$$ing. She did he called her a bi$ch . They were suppose to meet up but a snow storm kept him from being able to meet up. That is all I got from the 67 pages.
They aren't really allegations anymore Bill! Lauranitis has already essentially admitted its true because he is claiming to be a victim of Vince too, so he is confirming the "allegations"!
That’s not proof whatsoever; false corroboration happens frequently. These are still allegations and whether you like it or not, Vince McMahon should have the presumption of innocence until actually proven otherwise.
Yeah, everyone is buying that.
They are still allegations only. Do people not understand how law, truth, and justice works?
Voice of reason =Teddy Long
I tuned into this to hopefully learn something new and the only thing I learned was what a fair, straight up, individual teddy long is. Of every clip I've watched my long was the first person to remind me that everyone is innocent until proven guilty as well as the young lady and reminding us we don't really know both individuals or what transpired until we get to a court of law. Bravo playah, bravo!
This is all horrible. All parties should be held accountable for their actions. Plain and simple
If there was no Vince then there would be less wrestling on TV and everywhere else which in reality would have been a better thing if you look at all the lives that were ruined and cut short. I like wrestling but I would rather see a wrestler live out a blue collar life as a construction worker or something than see them ruin their lives for our entertainment. Now that's something I learned and figured out just by seeing all the history and stuff that happened for the past 40 years or so. So many great names that would be alive today although they wouldn't be famous if they werent wrestlers but they would be alive and maybe have families. That's the truth.
Teddy long: hold up playa! 30 secs in and im dying laughing... greatest segment in wrestlin history.
Only one came forward. They say they’re more but afraid to come forward for retaliation
This situation is a power thing. It doesn't give him nearly as much power having sex with an escort.
Rita Chatterton
Ring boy scandal
Pat Patterson Scandal
Ashley Massaro
Lita
Vince had a lot of power and she was financially instable. If you read the whole story and know stuff about psychology in regards to manipulation this is all textbook manipulation.
Ashley Massaro who left WWE in 2009? Ashley Massaro who was part of that silly concussion lawsuit in 2016? Ashley Massaro who sent a letter to WWE apologising for being a part of that suit? That Ashley Massaro who died in 2019? What about her?
@@basedelon bruh, the WWE claimed that she apologized after she died, and her lawyer said they didn’t know anything about it.
Your claim that the case was “silly” is your own bias language. And she was raped on a tribute to the troops show and after one of Vince’s doctors gave her a rape kit and promised not to tell anyone, the doctor told Vince and Vince told her to keep it to herself as to burn their bridge with the military.
It’s a completely incredible statement from the WWE and it was made in the midst of an ongoing lawsuit.
You are a moron.
Brock Lesnar is in a Wee Wee bit of trouble
LEAVE MY POTTY PRINCE OUT OF THIS!!
Pee Wee Lesnar.
Shouldn't be
The Peeast Brock Peesnar
Even before this, Terry Runnels said that BL exposed himself to her.
It's a power complex to a manic.
BILLY i AM SOOoo HAPPY TO SEE GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER
🤯 FUCK 🤦🏻♂️ I THOUGHT MR BILL APTER HAD FELL DOWN! 😂
I thought Bill had fallen over too.
Same. He's a treasure.
Same haha
So did I 😂
I have heard several people commenting on this case who have said they consider her to be a willing participant. How willing can you be when the person you are in the relationship with controls your ability to pay your bills? Her choice was either participate and accept the gifts, or be homeless. I think many people would have made the same choice that she did at the time
A woman in her late 30s with no control over herself, terrible isn't it.
Ill agree with Teddy on that
Im afraid that TKO will try to erase every bit of history before they bought the company and take the WWE network down and all the classic ppvs. I hope that doesn't happen
They could be stripping the company to the bone just to resell it. It could still just wind up being purchased or bought into by the Saudis.
Say bye bye to majority of the attitude era .
I hope not. I think they would alienate a big portion of their fan base
They’re not going away. Netflix didn’t spend billions for nothing. 😂
@@Cyko..Netflix’s deal didn’t include the tape library. The whole tape library thing was Vince’s baby, TKO or any other company could care less about a SMALL number of fans who actually watch vintage content. I think they’ll just shutter it and will do like the NFL does with legacy content, just hack together and release documentaries when they feel like it versus offering up entire games uncut.
Can we take a moment to appreciate Bill. The guy needs his flowers.
Teddy said, he was a Customer in his Younger days ! LMAO
Im sure ive seen that Vince stopped paying her because there was an annonomous tip. I think the tip came before he stopped paying? He's obviously not going to continue to pay her once the story has leaked.
Money is truly the root of all evil
Not money ppl are. Give those type of ppl money and they will show you their true self
If I had billions of dollars, you'd never hear from me again. That's probably why i'm eternally broke af.
@@sickboy703You and me both😂
Money's great...it's the LOVE of money that is the truest root af all evil.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
This is clearly just a Smear Campaign. Defecation of Character.
😂😂😂
His texts imply otherwise. They went on for years. He paid various settlements out and this is not the first person to accuse him. He also exhibits behavior you could see in someone who would act like this including his need for control over everything around him. Even Johnny Ace is now trying to claim he's a victim of Vince as well.
Vince simps are on par with Trump simps as the biggest beta bitches alive.
@@geneanthony3421YEP. HE’S GUILTY
@geneanthony3421 It's a pun read it again. SMH I hate having to explain jokes.
I remembered Teddy & Laurinaitis in 2011 & 2012 they always had a suspicion that they had a personal issue even the promos and segments they had they not liking one and another.
And their issues date back to the early 90's in WCW
They always had a suspicion that you had a personal issue with what? Their promo's? This comment makes no sense...
Pretty sure an NDA doesn't mean anything when it comes to this
I suggest Teddy read that 67 page court filing. He'll change his tune.
Sixty seven pages is short.
We have multiple Federal Protected Civil Rights, Liberties, Property and Employment Rights Actions against multiple U.S. States and we have Filed over Two Hundred Pages of Sworn Court Documents.
If this woman made any false statements then she will be Indicted on Federal Charges, Title 18 U.S.C. Section 1001.
This woman is not a victim. She is forty five years of age.
67 pages is a huge filing. Don't act like you know what you're talking about, because you don't. Go ahead and side with the pervert. You make me almost as sick as he does.@@WilliamOfficeSupply9832
Teddy Long is the most logical and sensible man I've heard speak on this. There's a lot of angles to look at this thing from, and regardless of who you are and what you think, in this country we MUST BE Innocent until proven guilty. As for Bill talking about putting this girl on trial, I think it's ABSOLUTELY fair to ask questions about her. Bill said "She's the victim here"... but the truth is she's the ALLEGED victim. We're all arm chair quarterbacking. There's not one of us who knows what really went on and who all was involved or in the know. This whole #Me Too thing has had some really bad side effects. You can't just say "We must believe all women"... You just can't. People are people, whether they're male, female, or otherwise... and the fact of the matter is, some people lie. I'm not saying this woman IS lying, but we don't know... It's GOT to be considered a possibility. Either we want the truth, or we just want to see somebody's head roll. We shouldn't be making judgments either way until it's all out in the open and been ruled on. And to be honest, now days, even then you can't really be sure what really happened. Only those involved really know.
Exactly. Not saying Vince is innocent or not, but people just start talking as if everything that was said by her is all the 100% truth like if it's impossible for her to be lying for money like if this isn't done commonly all the time and just start bashing someone's name without hearing both sides. Just like what happened with Johnny Depp they bashed his name, cut ties, and then turned out he was innocent lol
Everyone is judging Vince but we have no idea of this woman’s past which is a long one. She was 40 when this happened so she most likely had numerous relationships prior to Vince and who knows what she was into. Has anyone spoke to her past relationships of her ex boyfriends to find out her previous behavior. She could have been a swinger or into kinky stuff. There are a ton of women into this stuff. There are numerous websites with people into this stuff and Ton of this type of porn. People are acting as if she was 20 with no life experience. There are women out there that go after Rich men all the time for money. Why is everyone taking this woman’s side of the story which is right now one sided written by her attorney. Everyone should wait until the depositions are taken during this lawsuit to determine what is true. She may be ripped apart when she is deposed. This is currently only a civil suit so why is everyone assuming she is the victim as if it was a criminal case where a prosecutor investigated it and decided to bring charges. Some women out there today are worse than men. Just because your parents are wealthy doesn’t mean that your upbringing or family was normal. Most wealthy people often have more issues than poor people.
@@xSupremev2 Yep, Dead on... Johnny got his name dragged through the shit pile, turns out she was a damn liar, and yet you don't see THAT plastered all over the place like you did them saying him was a monster just based on an accusation. I mean damn, I agree that we need to take allegations seriously, but you investigate them... instead of just running with an allegation like its a conviction.
@@Frankenberry What did she lie about? Curious
@@flyingunpan50 AMBER HEARD.... She lied about all kinds of shit.
Teddy Long years ago never spoke up about male wrestlers calling young girls RATS FOR SEX so he's just as,responsible for this kind of horrible shit happening in pro Wrestling
This was a long time coming... Remembered they lots of execs, including referee Mike Keota, which could be the ref involved.
Bill you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned all the family you're so right This kind of information shouldn't even be talked about
Yup. Just like all the countless victims of Vince and his cronies have families too. What's your point?
Teddy comes off bad in this. Defending Vince and being "honoured" to be his sex toy. Yikes. Apter is the voice of reason here.
Innocent till proven guilty
"Like Teddy said" Mac the maneuver lol
Teddy Long is a real one. Long live one of the greatest GMs and Referees.
Theodore R Long,Greatest Smackdown GM ever.No doubt about it and an awesome dancer.He gets to the bottom of anything suspicious very quickly.
Teddy may want to be careful bragging about "knowing stuff" if there is a federal investigation
You underestimate Mr. Teddy. He may very well have talked to them already. Or this may be the indicator that he would like to. Well Teddy...you got your chance. Use it or lose it. I might can't get you justice, but I might could get you revenge.
Careful bragging?? Lol Teddy has been around Johnny Ace for more than just time in WWE I'm sure he's seen and heard alot.
@Outlawtorn3711 Oh I am certain he has. But if the Feds are going to be asking such questions as "who knew what, and when they knew it, and what did they do when they knew it" now would be a good time for any WWE employee or ex employees to not admit to seeing anything unless they talk to their lawyer first. That's all.
@manbearpig7359 first of all for anyone to be shocked about things like this in the wrestling business going on you've been living under a rock. Most wrestlers marriages fail for more than just being on the road alot. Drugs, murder, sex. It's all synonymous with wrestling. I'm not saying Vince is completely innocent but I certainly don't think he's that freaking stupid either but who knows. I know from reading those text messages though that Vinces grammar is piss poor which makes me suspicious even more.
“I really don’t think we’re talking to Bill, I think it’s just A and I” vintage Teddy Long folks
If I was the supposed victims attorney I would subpoena Teddy Long.
If Teddy Long knows "stuff", how much "stuff" does the son-in-law and daughter know? I say hold them all accountable.
Yeah just indict the whole of WWE HQ on a hunch.
@basedelon that is the liberal way 🤣 cancel everyone and everything victim mentality lmfao.
@@Deasnuts1 exactly. Unforutnately there are many like @shaunnewport infesting the comments.
Holding someone accountable and indicting people are two different things. Conservatives don’t seem to understand words and concepts so it’s easy to see how you two got confused.
Op was right that if an unrelated 3rd party knew details it’s not a far stretch to assume family members knew details as well. Maybe even more as they were high up on exec boards and had more access to information about the goings on than teddy could have dreamed of. Regardless they will all get investigated and if they are responsible for committing or enabling Vince and friends they’ll be held accountable as well
This woman was also 44 years old. But regardless Vince and Lairantesss assaulted this woman badly.
Apparenlty not
no evidence at all of assault what u on about haha 😂😂if that dopey woman sent brocks pics thats on her and dont give me she did it to keep her job LOL
I've heard that she was 21
No she's 44,born in 1980!They wanted to portray that she was a young innocent girl, never had a job.This was a rich bitch who never worked an her parents died an she was broke!So she hooked up with Vince!!
21.
honestly laurinitis always gave creep vibes
''John Laurinaitis, Tonight it will be you vs...The Undertaker!''
She could have said no from the beginning like Teddy referenced. I'm not defending Vince but Teddy is right.
Especially if she goes up to meet him and he opens the door in his underwear as she claims, why go back? At that point Vince had no power over her.
Teddy also claimed that he has more information about more vile shit quite frankly seems like teddy was aware of situations like this and just chose not to bother saying anything due to getting a paycheck from Vince so if he couldn't say no why would he expect anybody else.
Did teddy go to vince to get anally fucked?