So my the tip of my S pen finally gave out after ~2 years, and I thought I had to buy an entirely new S pen... came across your video for some reason and watched you unbox it, which revealed that the original box comes with those replacement tips. I couldn't be happier right now. THANK YOU!
@@galangbangsa5599 I am actually using this tablet as we speak. I primarily used it as an entertainment device while on travel for videos and reading, so I have not drawn with it much. When I did draw with it, I liked the experience, although I'm not a hardcore artist or anything so keep that in mind. It's sturdy and powerful for my needs so I would recommend it, although would definitely not pay retail price for it. I've since bought a Bluetooth keyboard that I carry with me so I transform this tablet into a little laptop capable of typing documents.
@@NzV123 thank you so much for the insight. I'm thinking on getting a portable and affordable drawing tablet, mostly for light drawings and sketches. Your opinion helps a lot. Thanks for responding!
I agree with the rest of the comments below, you're review is clear and helpful. I currently own an iPad pro, I have to agree that the drawing apps for it are in deed quality. recently I started to look into an android tablet because I'm primarily an android user there's something about an iPad I've yet to love. So thank you for letting us android user feel like there's hope!
I love the way you design the review, all my potencial questions are always answered as I think about them. That stylus looks really interesting. Great video!
i like how you talk about all the aspects of the product you are reviewing. you get zoomed close to give the viewers better understanding which is great. and to finish the video you compare it with other brands and talk about value for money and purpose of use which i really appreciate. i love your reviews . please keep this up. love from Bangladesh.
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Thank you for this review! I've been wanting to get into digital art and have been debating purchasing this tablet over an iPad, so this review was certainly helpful in reaching a decision. Keep up the good work!
Same did you get s3 or ipad? I've heard both companies have bad repair customer service. Fixing a tab cost as much as a new tab. And any tabs supposedly only last 2-3 years. I've only ever had kindles so convince me iPad or s3 or surface go for drawing and watching movies, light games.
@@Glamrgrl104 Tabs last longer than 3 years if theyre good! But at that point you probably wouldnt even want it anymore because itd be seriously outdated. I got the s6 last week and I am enjoying it. Havent played many games because its pretty big and im not used to that. Its way more than capable though. As for media, power and speed it is great. I multi task on it a lot and its great for split screening apps or even getting some work done on. As for comparison to kindle... My kindle is pretty old so my opinion might be outdated. But my kindle has always been slow and buggy from day 1. I dont think the OS is very good. Sometimes apps would close out without warning or if I did too many things at once it would freeze and need to be restarted... Again, my kindle is an old version and it did these things out of the box. But the way id put it is the(my) kindle is for reading and anything else is an afterthought (although im sure the newer ones are very capable). Its made to sell you amazon products after all. I personally stick with samsung products & I find them really enjoyable. & lastly, for digital art I am having fun with it. But android apps in the art department are not as good as the ipad. However IbisPaintX seems to do all I want it to.
@@jammy008 thanks for quick reply. My budget is $400 not $600 on a tab. And no headphone jack for s6 puts me off it. I don't have to have the greatest and best but one that is durable and will last. I will look at the s4 but again others saying has burn out screen.
I have started looking for a replacement for my Galaxy Tab 2014 10.1 (also with an s-pen), which I mostly use for drawing. Thanks to your in-depth review I may have found it. By the way, I admire your watercolor painting style and urban sketches. Very inspiring!
Buttons on the Samsung S-Pen can be mapped via in-app. If the app supports it, such as Painter, Clover Paint, and Artflow functions such as eraser and eye dropper can be assigned. Some apps will also allow you to assign in-app functions to the volume rocker too.
i had/have a problem with this. Everytime i pushed the Button, the App responded to it with the assigned function, but Android responded with this Quick-Menu too. Sometimes it can get a little unhandy
+Enigma2K99 Thank you so much for your support. It helps me out A LOT as these items are not sponsored but bought for review purposes. I'm going to sell this off after creating a few more comparison reviews. I lose less money because of help from supporters like you.
Yes! I was hoping to see a review by you of this tablet. Thank you for making such excellent (and well edited) videos. Also please review this for handwriting. Cheers!
4 years of usage, I still use it to this day. Its really good ngl, and I only had to change the nib once (well mainly because I prefered the harder ones)
Hello I bought one recently and the pen doesn't work correctly. It starts working when I hover the stylus. Do you have any idea of how to solve the problem. Thanks
In apps like infinite painter you can even configure the effect of hand touches over the screen, be either 1 touch, dual touch or disable them completely.
I'm not too sure about that, but I do know a lot of companies require a serial number to register the product and you wouldn't want someone else doing that. I'm always seeing serial numbers being blurred out in videos so I'm just conditioned to notice it. Serial number registration might effect warrenty down the track as well
As long as the serial number is within warranty, the company has to service the device. That's even if the device is sold off secondhand, or stolen. Some companies will require a proof of purchase in addition to the serial --- Samsung does, Apple doesn't.
Adobe Draw digital artist here 😎 I'm thinking about upgrading from my Tab S 8.4 to the Tab S3... it's been 4 years and my tablet is now charger dependent because of motherboard problems. Thanks for the awesome review from an artist perspective. Definitely thumbs up and subscribing. This is a quality video. 🔥
Awesome! I will buy anything I need through your links! Thank you for helping me make an educated decision. Off to search for your reviews on handwriting tools and functionalities. I am delving into graphology and typography and create handwritten poetry with my own art. Thanks again for an informative review!
Your review makes me want to buy the s3 tab, but it's still not available in my country... First time I am watching your review, it's so detailed and in-depth.. I love it.
thank u so much...ive been looking for an artists take on s3 as im intending to buy. i currently use tab s. your vid helped me firm up my thoughts....wish i could buy from ur link...but im in india so ill hv to buy from amazon.in .....ur sound very genuine and trustworthy. bye and cheers.
@Teoh Yi Chie - Did Wacom and Samsung finally fix the weird corner issues that used to be present in the old wacom digitizer tablets like MS-Surface, Samsung Ativ/Galaxy Note? Every other company switched to n-trig and other battery powered pens, but since samsung are investors with Wacom, I just wondered if they ever worked together to finally get it perfect.
I've been using this as my main sketch device for a few years. But recently I had to do a factory reset. Afterwards my App Freezer no longer functions and as a result I have to endure the wretched Air Command. Has anyone found a way to freeze it? I mainly use the S3 for art, I'd like to limit all the other processes going on in the background. Sidebar, perhaps it's just time to upgrade to Samsung's newest S-Pen enabled tablet? If you have used the S3 and have also used the newest model... the S7+, how would you compare them? I really enjoy the light weight of the S3 for marathon sketching, being able to hold it one hand while sitting in a comfy chair.
Air Command can be turned off with the latest Samsung UI update. But I'm not sure if that update is available for Tab S3 though. Between Tab S7 vs S7+, S7 is more portable and battery life is significantly longer so that's the model I recommend.
@@teohyc thanks for the quick response. Over on GSM arena I did a comparison and this is what came up. It says the S3 is upgradeable to One UI. Is that not the version that offers the toggle to switch off Air Command? I wonder if the roll out of UI updates is affected by region? I purchased my S3 in Singapore and am currently in Vietnam. I wonder if I might be able to spoof the server to get an update...
I need to make digital handwritten notes for my class, should I buy this or wait for the ipad 2018 model to hit retail and buy an apple pencil. Handwriting quality is my only priority....
Hello, is it possible when you draw on an app (let's say Adobe sketch) to disable the circle pointer under the S pen ? the one that shows up when the S pen is close to the screen. That would help me a lot, Thank you!
Question. I would like to know if it can fast charge and display a lightning bolt within a circle within a battery icon in the upper part if so, because a friend told me that if the lightning bolt isn't in a circle, it means simple charge.
10:35 you prefer lcd screen than amoled one. You can’t calibrate the spen to avoid the “pixelated” effect. But on next screen you draw smoothly. I am confused. Who can help me to understand?
I prefer LCD screens as the colours are more "natural" and less glaring to me. Amoled is like neon lights, TVs that run advertising all day long. The pen can draw smooth regardless of the colour quality of the screen.
Quick question: at 9:20 the drawing looks really pixelated, is that just because of the camera or is that how it really looks when drawing on the tablet? Thanks!
+Ian C It's because the original artwork is not high resolution enough when I zoomed in. If you want it sharp, you just need to set a higher resolution for the canvas size.
Hello Teoh, I'm planning on buying this tablet because the S4 is too pricey and I prefer the 4:3 aspect ratio. I want to use it for drawing, but I'm concerned about the battery life and If it would last more than 10 hours only drawing and with moderate screen brightness. Could you make a test using either Artflow or Infinite Painter? I would like to know how much the battery is depleted, let's say drawing some lines for 5 minutes. Thanks. If you don't have time to do it, thanks for the review anyhow ;).
Can anyone comment on how the Android Pie update effects performance with the Tab S3? I've been holding out still, but recently some of my drawing apps seem more and more unstable. I was wondering if AP might alleviate some of this stuff. However, I am concerned that the app I'm using to block the Air Command functions will no longer work.
May i ask if you know that samsung tab s4 or s5e are having similar according the painting features?...are they better or do they have the same skills?
Teoh, this is a very good review. Thanks. At 09:45 you draw a line with the ruler. It is quite far from the ruler itself. Would the line be drawn closer to the ruler if you pointed the tip of the stylus against the edge of the ruler (instead of perpendicluar to the surface of the tablet) ? (Like it's done in analog drawing.)
Yes Teoh, I see that in the other parts of the video that the cursor is directly beneath the tip. What I asked about is if the pen was tilted a bit (so that the tip would would point towards the ruler, and touch the edge of the ruler) would the line be drawn closer to the ruler ? Like in analogue drawing. I don't hold the pen straight (perpendicular) but I point it against the ruler to draw a line precisely against the ruler.
Robert Even if the tip is tilted, the cursor will still be directly beneath. The cursor is not at the place where the tip is pointing to when it is tilted.
I think that we have a misunderstanding. It's not about parallax. I think that the s-pen does a great job and doesn't suffer from parallax effect. Even the Apple Pencil has space between the ruler and the tip of the Pencil when it's held perpendicular to the screen surface (**edited:** it's the thickness of the barrel of the pen near the tip). Just like the s-pen in this video. I'm just trying to find out if it's possible to draw a line closer to the ruler with the s-pen. In the Apple Store I managed to do that with the Pencil, in the way I described earlier. It might have to do with tilt support. Not sure though.
It works well with dip pen. That ink is a bit strange. When it is fresh, it's waterproof. But months later, the ink from the bottle is no longer waterproof. You can research online to find out other people's experiences.
Hello! Which cheaper tab model can I buy instead of this with the similar functions? I need it for uni the most, to read lectures and use it sometimes instead of notebook for writing on tutorials. Can I buy some cheaper model and then buy a pencil separately? Thank you in advance for the reply.
+Rafa Domm Tab S3 is better for general purpose. It does a lot of things very well. If you take a lot of notes, then perhaps Lenovo since the accuracy of capturing handwriting is close to 100%
Excellent Review, in order to add value to this maybe you should get a custom silicon protective cover designed by you as an artist then I am sure you will make your money back on these! Have a great day!
I think you need to get the adaptor cable. USB type c to HDMI. But research on Amazon first because not all cables are compatible even if the ports can fit.
Teoh Yi Chie thank you for your response do you know the canvas settings for a Samsung tab s3 I'm trying to get a drawing down but I want it on the largest possible canvas size on the s3
after doing alot of research on this tablet i found that the feature you weir hating with the color shift not working was because it comes turned off out of the box.
Would you put this in place of iPad pro for arts and general tasks like studying amd annotations? Iny opinion the S pen interface is more intuitive and productive than apple pencil however the Ipad pro ios is more shiny lookimg tjan android in general. Love your reviews thank you.
+Mohammad Shawqy I think this is as capable. There are also many useful apps. IOS does look and feel more polished. But functionality should be very similar. What you want to do on iOS you can probably do on Android, and vice versa with minor differences. Check out my iPad Pro vs Tab S3 review ruclips.net/video/2yzVoqJ5ft0/видео.html
I'm a Samsung ATIV XE500TIC Windows based with S-Pen user. The problem with my tablet is sometimes the sketch softwares such as ArtRage and GIMP still recognize my palm when it touched the screen and it's really annoying. I'm not very sure the reviewer mentioned about palm rejection feature in Samsung Galaxy Tab S3. If the tablet has that feature and it's working correctly in every sketch apps, I would like to buy it.
+Yudhi Mardani The Tab S3 should work similarly like your device. To have perfect palm rejection, the pen has to be close to the screen so that it can be detected (hence it will enable palm rejection).
The newer notes have great palm rejection. If you want a cheaper option that's almost as good the note 10 2014 can be picked up on e bay far cheaper & offers 2k screen(lcd not amoled but still a great screen,I have had both) its a little larger canvas & has a sturdy processor with a more than adequate 3g ram. The orientation of home button is in landscape which wasn't a great move but you can do a complete 180&use it upside down when drawing in landscape to avoid hitting it accidentally. A new battery in it probably wouldn't hurt but they are cheap enough to buy & a pretty simple job to swap out or to get and repair place to insert it for you. The rejection can be a little app dependent,& some are perfect where the odd 1 will give you a line here or there but very rarely & there's always the undo button if you happen to get 1 now & then in an app. Like I said though most have I'd say a 95% success rate & the better known apps & samsung apps are pretty much spit on at telling the palm from the pen.
My first tablet was the Motorola xoom 2 and then skip to note 10.1 but it was a disappointment that I had a defect that distorted vertical lines of what should be, I finally returned it and hesitate to re-trust Samsung but Probe Note 10.1 2014 32g and I really liked his performance to draw. Until now none of the other tablets of Samsung with stylus had surpassed this model until I see that at last the Tap S3 has characteristics that over pass note 10.1 2014. I draw a lot for works, the chance is justified to this tablet, or i wait to another version of another year?
There really isn't much downside to this tablet so it's a safe buy. I doubt next model will be significantly better, unless they have a larger and more comfortable S Pen.
Hey , I saw that the SUrface book pen is the same pen with s3 ! , so can I coincide this video same as reviewing SUrface book pen ? (I know windows is very different but still)
+Joseph Mcqueen Microsoft Surface Pen still has that jitter problem when drawing diagonal lines slowly. Hopefully they solve the problem with their New Surface Pro.
Oops i guess i was in a bit of hurry... I seriously meant galaxy book* not surface book. I saw that the S pen used in s3 is exactly the same s pen used in galaxy book 12 so should I consider this video to represent galaxy book 12? Or will you do a separate review on that.
Does the pressure sensitivity work with LayerPaint HD and Painter as well? I know you've tested the Lenovo Yoga Book as well, does that one work well with LayerPaint HD and Painter in regards to lag and pressure sensitivity? Which of the tablets do you prefer, the Samsung or the Lenovo?
Pressure works with LayerPaint HD and Painter. Drawing on the screen feels more intuitive. Lenovo Yoga Book is more accurate when it comes to taking notes.
Thank you so much for answering. I'm more into drawing and painting, so the Galaxy would be a better choice then. Thanks for the great reviews you always do from an artist point of view. Very helpful.
really thorough review!! is there anyway to use the usb-c port and activate a cintiq mode on the device maybe by using the Wacom link adapter if you still have it ?
Is it good to use it to write stories? You see I'm an amateur writer and most times I get ideas I don't have a pen or paper with me but I do have my phone which isn't that comfortable to write in. I would love someone to give me his or her opinion since I'm considering buying it but in my country it costs 789,99€ which are a lot and I want to know if the money in intend to spent will be well spent.
+Frank Reiter This tablet comes with the S Pen stylus. It's the best stylus for this tablet so probably no need to use other styluses. You can use other styluses but you won't get the features of the S Pen like palm rejection and pressure sensitivity.
Thanks Teoh. I quite like the included stylus. I was just curious whether other Wacom compatible styli might also be compatible and might offer some benefit. Asked and answered. Thank you.
there is the Staedtler (yes wood Pencil's Staedtler) Noris digital stylus made with Samsung for Galaxy Tab S3. I think it is really amazing! it will comes on july 3th
what would be the workflow with this tablet if you wanted to use it with desktop photoshop? Are there apps for android that allow integration into photoshop environment?
thanks. I was hoping there was some kind of more immediate exchange of screens from and to Photoshop. Like drawing on the app and immediately seeing it updated on your photoshop desktop system too and vice versa. Doesn't photoshop offer android apps of some sort?
Medibang paint has a free, unlimited cloud function and you can export it as a .psd on desktop, so if you don't mind some of the tool differences you could go with that. It's much newer and cleaner nowadays, and is on all OSes aside from Linux.
Was looking for a tablet strictly for drawing and nothing else and was looking into buying a Tab S6 Lite, but I saw a used Tab S3 on fb marketplace for half the price of an S6 Lite. Seller says he's only had it for a month. Should I go for it? Really need to save money.
@@teohyc thanks for the advice. I may just have to buy an S6 Lite instead of the S4 since they sell them cheaper than the S4 here. That or will just go amd buy a ton of artist grade paints instead since that is my main job. Haha. Just wanted to buy a tablet with pen pressure since what I have now doesn't. Great job on the videos by the way. Very informative especially for artists.
For drawing i find this tablet quite nice, the app Medibang is really nice. However i find the tablet overall quite slow, scrolling pages like the google play store or the internet is painfull, is it just me? And the battery is melting so fast that i doubt i wouldn't reconsider taking it away from the desk...Could you confirm that it's not just me? Also, Medibang usually stops at some point, then somehow "restart" (the page goes small, i have to resize it), i believe the memory has reached its limit, does that happen to you too?
+Joseph Doyen Pencil by FiftyThree is a good app only on iOS. Anyway, there are many drawing apps on iOS and Android. I'm sure you can find one you like.
Teoh Yi Chie I've heard the iPad and pencil are great but I really prefer the Android experience. Will you be doing an updated version of this video or doing a new video to talk about the best android tablets for artists and note taking? Your two videos on the subject are excellent and I've watched them both several times.
Hi Teoh 😊 The pen, did it wobble for you too? I feel like, I break a lot of nips if drawing, because the nip isn't totally sturdy inside the pen and I have to press very hard to get a much thicker line in the art apps - only seems to work fine in the Samsung notes... Wonder if it's just me? Or maybe there's some settings in the apps or the tablet, I need to adjust? 🤔 You/others with those pen problems? Gonna Google it ofc, didn't find anything last time, so now I'm asking the community on YT. I'd have a hard time not having a tablet due to my needs, but might send it back for testing if it's just me, before guarantee runs out. Was looking forward learning to do digital art, but breaking the nips is getting expensive, so I've given op for now. 🙃 The hard tips just seems to scratch the screen, so prefer the softer ones. I seriously regret not saving extra and get an iPad pro with Apple pencil, though I hate Apples products. Wish they'd make something similar for Android. 😣 Really like all your artists reviews of stuff and such, you really go into detail in tests. 😄
@@teohyc Thanks for response. 😘 Gonna get it checked in a couple weeks when I can do without, it's so annoying. Yeah I've tried the apple pencil at a store.... I think I literally looked like this 😍... Ahrg. Seriously hope Samsung follows along and make something similar. I really do hate Apple a great deal, for a lot of reasons, but I want to evolve my art too, pff. Gonna follow your further reviews, maybe you find something in between someday - if they don't come to their senses.. I mean, Samsung must know how much customers they lose to Apple, right..... 🤔 😅 Again, thanks for such a good channel. Lots of love your way. ❤️😄
Hi! I'm taking Chinese lessons and I would like to quit paper for a numeric support. In your opinion, would the tab s3 be good enough to write Chinese or do I shall buy the iPad pro? Thank you!
If it is just for writing, Tab S3 is good enough. Do compare the price with iPad 2018 and Apple Pencil. If the iPad is cheaper, get that because it is better. There is no need to get iPad Pro.
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3 years later in 2020, I've just bought a refurbished Tab s3 at $370 (Singapore dollars) for my mobile drawing needs. Worth it.
What app do u use for drawing? I kinda don't like the ones I've found
@@susanne8103 Medibang, I'm still trying to get used to it though!
@@susanne8103 Ibis Paint is great tho
@@susanne8103 I prefer using Ibis paint (good for drawing lineart) and Autodesk Sketchbook (for simplicity UI)
I'm considering to buy one now for taking notes for lecture, is this tablet worth to buy now? I'm worried most apps will not supported
So my the tip of my S pen finally gave out after ~2 years, and I thought I had to buy an entirely new S pen... came across your video for some reason and watched you unbox it, which revealed that the original box comes with those replacement tips. I couldn't be happier right now. THANK YOU!
Hi, do you still use this tablet? I'd like to ask whether this tablet is still good for 2020. Is it still good for drawings with apps nowadays?
@@galangbangsa5599 I am actually using this tablet as we speak. I primarily used it as an entertainment device while on travel for videos and reading, so I have not drawn with it much. When I did draw with it, I liked the experience, although I'm not a hardcore artist or anything so keep that in mind. It's sturdy and powerful for my needs so I would recommend it, although would definitely not pay retail price for it. I've since bought a Bluetooth keyboard that I carry with me so I transform this tablet into a little laptop capable of typing documents.
@@NzV123 thank you so much for the insight. I'm thinking on getting a portable and affordable drawing tablet, mostly for light drawings and sketches. Your opinion helps a lot. Thanks for responding!
I agree with the rest of the comments below, you're review is clear and helpful. I currently own an iPad pro, I have to agree that the drawing apps for it are in deed quality. recently I started to look into an android tablet because I'm primarily an android user there's something about an iPad I've yet to love. So thank you for letting us android user feel like there's hope!
+Magda Morales Thanks 😁
I love the way you design the review, all my potencial questions are always answered as I think about them. That stylus looks really interesting. Great video!
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i like how you talk about all the aspects of the product you are reviewing. you get zoomed close to give the viewers better understanding which is great. and to finish the video you compare it with other brands and talk about value for money and purpose of use which i really appreciate. i love your reviews . please keep this up.
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great review!
That is pretty amazing precision of the pen, no jittering at all! Definitely going to be getting this one. Thanks for the review!
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Fantastic review! ^_^ One could definitely buy with confidence after that.
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I'm getting this soon. I'm so excited
Thank you for this review! I've been wanting to get into digital art and have been debating purchasing this tablet over an iPad, so this review was certainly helpful in reaching a decision. Keep up the good work!
Me too! which one did you get? I am in exactly the same position
Same did you get s3 or ipad?
I've heard both companies have bad repair customer service. Fixing a tab cost as much as a new tab.
And any tabs supposedly only last 2-3 years. I've only ever had kindles so convince me iPad or s3 or surface go for drawing and watching movies, light games.
@@Glamrgrl104 Tabs last longer than 3 years if theyre good! But at that point you probably wouldnt even want it anymore because itd be seriously outdated. I got the s6 last week and I am enjoying it. Havent played many games because its pretty big and im not used to that. Its way more than capable though. As for media, power and speed it is great. I multi task on it a lot and its great for split screening apps or even getting some work done on.
As for comparison to kindle... My kindle is pretty old so my opinion might be outdated. But my kindle has always been slow and buggy from day 1. I dont think the OS is very good. Sometimes apps would close out without warning or if I did too many things at once it would freeze and need to be restarted...
Again, my kindle is an old version and it did these things out of the box. But the way id put it is the(my) kindle is for reading and anything else is an afterthought (although im sure the newer ones are very capable). Its made to sell you amazon products after all.
I personally stick with samsung products & I find them really enjoyable.
& lastly, for digital art I am having fun with it. But android apps in the art department are not as good as the ipad. However IbisPaintX seems to do all I want it to.
@@jammy008 thanks for quick reply. My budget is $400 not $600 on a tab. And no headphone jack for s6 puts me off it. I don't have to have the greatest and best but one that is durable and will last. I will look at the s4 but again others saying has burn out screen.
I have started looking for a replacement for my Galaxy Tab 2014 10.1 (also with an s-pen), which I mostly use for drawing. Thanks to your in-depth review I may have found it.
By the way, I admire your watercolor painting style and urban sketches. Very inspiring!
Thanks :-)
Buttons on the Samsung S-Pen can be mapped via in-app. If the app supports it, such as Painter, Clover Paint, and Artflow functions such as eraser and eye dropper can be assigned. Some apps will also allow you to assign in-app functions to the volume rocker too.
+John Hayes Thanks. I need to try that
i had/have a problem with this.
Everytime i pushed the Button, the App responded to it with the assigned function, but Android responded with this Quick-Menu too.
Sometimes it can get a little unhandy
Jana isn't there a way to turn off the air command menu?
Just checking in to let you know that I recently purchased a Galaxy Tab S3 through your link. :) Waiting on it now!
+Enigma2K99 Thank you so much for your support. It helps me out A LOT as these items are not sponsored but bought for review purposes. I'm going to sell this off after creating a few more comparison reviews. I lose less money because of help from supporters like you.
... maybe I should have just bought this one from you? :P
I've had an ipad pro, and tried the tab s3 and tab s4, Samsung wins in my experience.
is there a huge difference from the s3 to s4
Really ?
Stephen would you prefer the s3 or s4 for drawing and Netflix?
@@Glamrgrl104 i prefer s3
@@Ana-kh2pt What android version does it run?
Yes! I was hoping to see a review by you of this tablet. Thank you for making such excellent (and well edited) videos. Also please review this for handwriting. Cheers!
4 years of usage, I still use it to this day. Its really good ngl, and I only had to change the nib once (well mainly because I prefered the harder ones)
Hello I bought one recently and the pen doesn't work correctly. It starts working when I hover the stylus. Do you have any idea of how to solve the problem. Thanks
can you put your hand on the screen while painting?
Yes, there's palm rejection.
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I cant draw if my hands isnt leaning to the screen... Is there any "hand-free touch" feature when i using the pen when drawing?
You can draw with your hand on the screen. There's palm rejection.
In apps like infinite painter you can even configure the effect of hand touches over the screen, be either 1 touch, dual touch or disable them completely.
4:13 you might want to blur out the serial number. Especially seems this video is available in 4k.
Would there be serial number abuse?
I'm not too sure about that, but I do know a lot of companies require a serial number to register the product and you wouldn't want someone else doing that. I'm always seeing serial numbers being blurred out in videos so I'm just conditioned to notice it. Serial number registration might effect warrenty down the track as well
As long as the serial number is within warranty, the company has to service the device. That's even if the device is sold off secondhand, or stolen. Some companies will require a proof of purchase in addition to the serial --- Samsung does, Apple doesn't.
Adobe Draw digital artist here 😎 I'm thinking about upgrading from my Tab S 8.4 to the Tab S3... it's been 4 years and my tablet is now charger dependent because of motherboard problems. Thanks for the awesome review from an artist perspective. Definitely thumbs up and subscribing. This is a quality video. 🔥
Hi Teoh, may I know, Is all AMOLED screen have this color shifting like in 11:12 ? Is even Tab S7+ still have this problem?
Awesome! I will buy anything I need through your links! Thank you for helping me make an educated decision. Off to search for your reviews on handwriting tools and functionalities. I am delving into graphology and typography and create handwritten poetry with my own art. Thanks again for an informative review!
Thanks for your support :-)
gosh...ur channel looks smashing! im subscribing. glad i found ur channel....bye and wish u end up with potsss of gold
Your review makes me want to buy the s3 tab, but it's still not available in my country... First time I am watching your review, it's so detailed and in-depth.. I love it.
Thanks \ (•◡•) /
I just ordered this tablet and the Pixel 2 XL!! Can't wait for them to be here tomorrow or Wednesday!
Love watching your videos! So enjoyable!
thank u so much...ive been looking for an artists take on s3 as im intending to buy. i currently use tab s. your vid helped me firm up my thoughts....wish i could buy from ur link...but im in india so ill hv to buy from amazon.in .....ur sound very genuine and trustworthy. bye and cheers.
Need to find a cheaper version of this product for a teenager just starting to learn to draw and use the tech way to go. Thanks for your input.
IPad 2018 with Apple Pencil may be cheaper
i was waiting for this review thank you so much for this informations .
@Teoh Yi Chie - Did Wacom and Samsung finally fix the weird corner issues that used to be present in the old wacom digitizer tablets like MS-Surface, Samsung Ativ/Galaxy Note? Every other company switched to n-trig and other battery powered pens, but since samsung are investors with Wacom, I just wondered if they ever worked together to finally get it perfect.
Hi... Is it possible to write on SNotes leaving your hand relaxing (touching) the screen like in a paper?
Yes you can
I've been using this as my main sketch device for a few years. But recently I had to do a factory reset. Afterwards my App Freezer no longer functions and as a result I have to endure the wretched Air Command. Has anyone found a way to freeze it? I mainly use the S3 for art, I'd like to limit all the other processes going on in the background. Sidebar, perhaps it's just time to upgrade to Samsung's newest S-Pen enabled tablet? If you have used the S3 and have also used the newest model... the S7+, how would you compare them? I really enjoy the light weight of the S3 for marathon sketching, being able to hold it one hand while sitting in a comfy chair.
Air Command can be turned off with the latest Samsung UI update. But I'm not sure if that update is available for Tab S3 though.
Between Tab S7 vs S7+, S7 is more portable and battery life is significantly longer so that's the model I recommend.
@@teohyc thanks for the quick response. Over on GSM arena I did a comparison and this is what came up. It says the S3 is upgradeable to One UI. Is that not the version that offers the toggle to switch off Air Command? I wonder if the roll out of UI updates is affected by region? I purchased my S3 in Singapore and am currently in Vietnam. I wonder if I might be able to spoof the server to get an update...
@@jchart01 If I remember correctly, it's Samsung UI 2.5 that allows you to turn off Air Command. It's current Samsung UI 3.0
I need to make digital handwritten notes for my class, should I buy this or wait for the ipad 2018 model to hit retail and buy an apple pencil. Handwriting quality is my only priority....
With the new iPad that supports Apple Pencil, I think that's a better buy now
thanks...i need to write properly that is the main thing...
Hello, is it possible when you draw on an app (let's say Adobe sketch) to disable the circle pointer under the S pen ? the one that shows up when the S pen is close to the screen. That would help me a lot, Thank you!
That circle is irritating but I don't think it can be disable as far as I know.
Question. I would like to know if it can fast charge and display a lightning bolt within a circle within a battery icon in the upper part if so, because a friend told me that if the lightning bolt isn't in a circle, it means simple charge.
I can’t remember if this can fast charge. But if it can, there will be that fast charge icon. You’ve got to read the specification to find out
10:35 you prefer lcd screen than amoled one. You can’t calibrate the spen to avoid the “pixelated” effect. But on next screen you draw smoothly. I am confused. Who can help me to understand?
I prefer LCD screens as the colours are more "natural" and less glaring to me. Amoled is like neon lights, TVs that run advertising all day long.
The pen can draw smooth regardless of the colour quality of the screen.
Teoh Yi Chie thanks
Quick question: at 9:20 the drawing looks really pixelated, is that just because of the camera or is that how it really looks when drawing on the tablet? Thanks!
+Ian C It's because the original artwork is not high resolution enough when I zoomed in. If you want it sharp, you just need to set a higher resolution for the canvas size.
Hi! Did this apps can treat digitized files? Like phisical a hand draw. Sorry my english😅
Not sure what you mean
Is there a automatic rendering feature, say you draw a rough line or angle is there a auto correct edit feature?
That feature's availability will depend on the app.
Hello Teoh, I'm planning on buying this tablet because the S4 is too pricey and I prefer the 4:3 aspect ratio. I want to use it for drawing, but I'm concerned about the battery life and If it would last more than 10 hours only drawing and with moderate screen brightness. Could you make a test using either Artflow or Infinite Painter? I would like to know how much the battery is depleted, let's say drawing some lines for 5 minutes. Thanks. If you don't have time to do it, thanks for the review anyhow ;).
Not sure of the exact battery life but I can safely say that battery life is not an issue I think of when using this tablet. Battery life is good.
Thank you.
You are awesome, the best s3 review of youtube thanks.
Thanks 😁
Can anyone comment on how the Android Pie update effects performance with the Tab S3? I've been holding out still, but recently some of my drawing apps seem more and more unstable. I was wondering if AP might alleviate some of this stuff. However, I am concerned that the app I'm using to block the Air Command functions will no longer work.
Why the does the pen skip on the right side of the screen cannot get a continuous line
thanks dude. a one new app i've found out is quite brilliant
good job Teoh i really wish to have this one!!
May i ask if you know that samsung tab s4 or s5e are having similar according the painting features?...are they better or do they have the same skills?
Teoh, this is a very good review. Thanks.
At 09:45 you draw a line with the ruler. It is quite far from the ruler itself. Would the line be drawn closer to the ruler if you pointed the tip of the stylus against the edge of the ruler (instead of perpendicluar to the surface of the tablet) ?
(Like it's done in analog drawing.)
+Robert That parallax is due to where my camera lens is positioned. The cursor is always directly beneath the tip.
Yes Teoh, I see that in the other parts of the video that the cursor is directly beneath the tip.
What I asked about is if the pen was tilted a bit (so that the tip would would point towards the ruler, and touch the edge of the ruler) would the line be drawn closer to the ruler ?
Like in analogue drawing. I don't hold the pen straight (perpendicular) but I point it against the ruler to draw a line precisely against the ruler.
Robert Even if the tip is tilted, the cursor will still be directly beneath. The cursor is not at the place where the tip is pointing to when it is tilted.
I think that we have a misunderstanding. It's not about parallax. I think that the s-pen does a great job and doesn't suffer from parallax effect.
Even the Apple Pencil has space between the ruler and the tip of the Pencil when it's held perpendicular to the screen surface (**edited:** it's the thickness of the barrel of the pen near the tip). Just like the s-pen in this video.
I'm just trying to find out if it's possible to draw a line closer to the ruler with the s-pen. In the Apple Store I managed to do that with the Pencil, in the way I described earlier. It might have to do with tilt support. Not sure though.
Robert To draw closer to the ruler, just use a thinner ruler. Mine is quite thick.
holy cow bamboo galaxy working together I'm totally getting it.
Mina paw bamboo working with samsung?? are you srs??
You've used Platinum Carbon Black ink on your channel with a dip pen. How did that go and did it perform well with a dip pen?
It works well with dip pen. That ink is a bit strange. When it is fresh, it's waterproof. But months later, the ink from the bottle is no longer waterproof. You can research online to find out other people's experiences.
Thanks for telling me about yours with it. ^_^ Will do some research too.
Could you demonstrate erasing? When I draw on paper, I do pleny of erasing.
I think this is the best value-for-money tablet in the market right now.
I have samsung galaxy tab 3 lite so can i use a pen on it? Pls
By the way, what about camera? Is pictures good taken in low light areas?
AWESOME video review of Tab S3 and S-pen ... big THANKS ... 😎
+nikolass83gianni Thanks 😁
You are most welcome ... 😎
I have drawing software on a disk, is there any way I can use that software on this tablet?
Very nice presentation and informative. thx
Does it work different in the 8.0 inches version ? I ve got the T310 model.
What do you mean by work different? S Pen will only work with tablets that come with S Pen.
@@teohyc Thanks for your answer. I meant that if I buy an S Pen for my tablet will it work?
Hi great video!! May i ask how did you turn on the pen pressure sensitivity in medibang on this tablet? I can't figure out how to do so
If it is not on by default, you should be able to change that in the Medibang settings.
Teoh Yi Chie under where can i find the settings to change that?
One question please, do you feel the pixels or they are acceptable
I mean is it as crisp, sharp and vibrant as the galaxy notes?
For drawing while travelling, would you choose Samsung Tab S3 or Lenovo Yoga Book? (or something else if you have any recommendations..) thanks :D
+Kien Tuong I think it's more intuitive to draw on the screen and the Tab S3's S Pen is very accurate.
Thanks! I'm waiting for it to release :D
I have a wacom tablet :D but since i got to travel sometimes, i should get a tablet that i can draw directly on it.
What an informative video! Thank you so much
Is there a way to modify de sensitivity on the spen ? it seems like mine is not working quite well.
+kevin gonzalez There is no way to change the sensitivity as far as I know of.
Hello!
Which cheaper tab model can I buy instead of this with the similar functions? I need it for uni the most, to read lectures and use it sometimes instead of notebook for writing on tutorials. Can I buy some cheaper model and then buy a pencil separately?
Thank you in advance for the reply.
Perhaps you can check out Samsung Tab A, the model that comes with the S Pen.
Good review, now I know what to look for on black friday :D
Nice video .. watching it on my tab s9 +
Thank you for this good review. I had a view issues with deciding on which tablet to buy and I bought a Tab S3 after seeing your video!
Very good review! Thank you for your help!
I used MEDI when I made a Sketch. But my hands always touch the LCD. Do you know how to turn off the hand Sensitivity?
Go into settings to turn on palm rejection
Teoh Yi Chie i didnt find it...
Hi Teoh, how to get medibang pro on Android, I searched on play store but couldn't find it.
I hope you'd spare your time to answer this, thanks...
It's called Medibang Paint in Google Play Store
@@teohyc just found it, thanks a lot 😊
I have another question: if you do some art on the S3 and send it to print or use on a Web page, will the colors stay as vibrant?
+Joseph Doyen It should stay vibrant. If I am not wrong, the colour profile will be sRGB and printers can actually print that.
what should i buy? Lenovo yoga book Android version or samsung tab s3? Your opinion will be very important, please help me with your opinion.
+Rafa Domm Tab S3 is better for general purpose. It does a lot of things very well. If you take a lot of notes, then perhaps Lenovo since the accuracy of capturing handwriting is close to 100%
Thanks for your answer!!! :)
Your channel is the best!
Thanks for your kind comments ｡◕‿◕｡
Excellent Review, in order to add value to this maybe you should get a custom silicon protective cover designed by you as an artist then I am sure you will make your money back on these! Have a great day!
Great video... i want to get one soon. Do you know how the video steams on tablet?
I'm don't know how
Teoh Yi Chie like if you watched a movie or videos on it.
I think you need to get the adaptor cable. USB type c to HDMI. But research on Amazon first because not all cables are compatible even if the ports can fit.
Hello have you used the sketchbook app on it
Sketchbook works fine. Worth trying. That app is now free.
Teoh Yi Chie thank you for your response do you know the canvas settings for a Samsung tab s3 I'm trying to get a drawing down but I want it on the largest possible canvas size on the s3
after doing alot of research on this tablet i found that the feature you weir hating with the color shift not working was because it comes turned off out of the box.
Would you put this in place of iPad pro for arts and general tasks like studying amd annotations? Iny opinion the S pen interface is more intuitive and productive than apple pencil however the Ipad pro ios is more shiny lookimg tjan android in general.
Love your reviews thank you.
+Mohammad Shawqy I think this is as capable. There are also many useful apps. IOS does look and feel more polished. But functionality should be very similar. What you want to do on iOS you can probably do on Android, and vice versa with minor differences. Check out my iPad Pro vs Tab S3 review ruclips.net/video/2yzVoqJ5ft0/видео.html
Just wondering is it good for editing photos?
I'm a Samsung ATIV XE500TIC Windows based with S-Pen user. The problem with my tablet is sometimes the sketch softwares such as ArtRage and GIMP still recognize my palm when it touched the screen and it's really annoying. I'm not very sure the reviewer mentioned about palm rejection feature in Samsung Galaxy Tab S3. If the tablet has that feature and it's working correctly in every sketch apps, I would like to buy it.
+Yudhi Mardani The Tab S3 should work similarly like your device. To have perfect palm rejection, the pen has to be close to the screen so that it can be detected (hence it will enable palm rejection).
The newer notes have great palm rejection. If you want a cheaper option that's almost as good the note 10 2014 can be picked up on e bay far cheaper & offers 2k screen(lcd not amoled but still a great screen,I have had both) its a little larger canvas & has a sturdy processor with a more than adequate 3g ram. The orientation of home button is in landscape which wasn't a great move but you can do a complete 180&use it upside down when drawing in landscape to avoid hitting it accidentally. A new battery in it probably wouldn't hurt but they are cheap enough to buy & a pretty simple job to swap out or to get and repair place to insert it for you. The rejection can be a little app dependent,& some are perfect where the odd 1 will give you a line here or there but very rarely & there's always the undo button if you happen to get 1 now & then in an app. Like I said though most have I'd say a 95% success rate & the better known apps & samsung apps are pretty much spit on at telling the palm from the pen.
My first tablet was the Motorola xoom 2 and then skip to note 10.1 but it was a disappointment that I had a defect that distorted vertical lines of what should be, I finally returned it and hesitate to re-trust Samsung but Probe Note 10.1 2014 32g and I really liked his performance to draw. Until now none of the other tablets of Samsung with stylus had surpassed this model until I see that at last the Tap S3 has characteristics that over pass note 10.1 2014. I draw a lot for works, the chance is justified to this tablet, or i wait to another version of another year?
There really isn't much downside to this tablet so it's a safe buy. I doubt next model will be significantly better, unless they have a larger and more comfortable S Pen.
Hey , I saw that the SUrface book pen is the same pen with s3 ! , so can I coincide this video same as reviewing SUrface book pen ? (I know windows is very different but still)
+Joseph Mcqueen Microsoft Surface Pen still has that jitter problem when drawing diagonal lines slowly. Hopefully they solve the problem with their New Surface Pro.
Oops i guess i was in a bit of hurry... I seriously meant galaxy book* not surface book. I saw that the S pen used in s3 is exactly the same s pen used in galaxy book 12 so should I consider this video to represent galaxy book 12? Or will you do a separate review on that.
Does the pressure sensitivity work with LayerPaint HD and Painter as well? I know you've tested the Lenovo Yoga Book as well, does that one work well with LayerPaint HD and Painter in regards to lag and pressure sensitivity? Which of the tablets do you prefer, the Samsung or the Lenovo?
Pressure works with LayerPaint HD and Painter.
Drawing on the screen feels more intuitive. Lenovo Yoga Book is more accurate when it comes to taking notes.
Thank you so much for answering. I'm more into drawing and painting, so the Galaxy would be a better choice then. Thanks for the great reviews you always do from an artist point of view. Very helpful.
really thorough review!!
is there anyway to use the usb-c port and activate a cintiq mode on the device maybe by using the Wacom link adapter if you still have it ?
+AC AC I don't think so. This is not supposed to work like a monitor.
Teoh Yi Chie yeah you're right .. just wishing they thought to do it lol.
@Teoh Yi Chie Great review! I'd like to ask if applying a screen protector on the tablet affect the performance of the stylus?
+Led Pencil Screen protector don't affect stylus performance
Is it good to use it to write stories? You see I'm an amateur writer and most times I get ideas I don't have a pen or paper with me but I do have my phone which isn't that comfortable to write in. I would love someone to give me his or her opinion since I'm considering buying it but in my country it costs 789,99€ which are a lot and I want to know if the money in intend to spent will be well spent.
+Vasiliki Tzalachani Yes, it is good for writing. The Samsung Notes app included is good at capturing handwriting accurately
Teoh Yi Chie Thank you for the information you provided me with. 😀
If there are third part styli that work with this tablet it would be nice to see a video about them.
+Frank Reiter This tablet comes with the S Pen stylus. It's the best stylus for this tablet so probably no need to use other styluses. You can use other styluses but you won't get the features of the S Pen like palm rejection and pressure sensitivity.
Thanks Teoh. I quite like the included stylus. I was just curious whether other Wacom compatible styli might also be compatible and might offer some benefit. Asked and answered. Thank you.
there is the Staedtler (yes wood Pencil's Staedtler) Noris digital stylus made with Samsung for Galaxy Tab S3. I think it is really amazing! it will comes on july 3th
Thanks!
Is the extreme smoothness of the screen not a problem for someone who is used to drawing on paper or a wacom tablet which has a slight grain?
+HappyMrGhost You can use the tip with more friction. It's smooth on screen but not slippery. So it's not going to be a major issue.
Thank you very much for the reply and the review. really considering getting one now.
you can get screen foils for that.
what would be the workflow with this tablet if you wanted to use it with desktop photoshop? Are there apps for android that allow integration into photoshop environment?
Some apps allow you to save as Photoshop or TIFF files where you can later open in Photoshop.
thanks. I was hoping there was some kind of more immediate exchange of screens from and to Photoshop. Like drawing on the app and immediately seeing it updated on your photoshop desktop system too and vice versa. Doesn't photoshop offer android apps of some sort?
for example the android app "Adobe Photoshop Sketch" isn't that what I am looking for? I'll need to take a look at it.
Medibang paint has a free, unlimited cloud function and you can export it as a .psd on desktop, so if you don't mind some of the tool differences you could go with that. It's much newer and cleaner nowadays, and is on all OSes aside from Linux.
Was looking for a tablet strictly for drawing and nothing else and was looking into buying a Tab S6 Lite, but I saw a used Tab S3 on fb marketplace for half the price of an S6 Lite. Seller says he's only had it for a month. Should I go for it? Really need to save money.
Tab S3 is kinda old. I would recommend at least a Tab S4.
@@teohyc thanks for the advice. I may just have to buy an S6 Lite instead of the S4 since they sell them cheaper than the S4 here. That or will just go amd buy a ton of artist grade paints instead since that is my main job. Haha. Just wanted to buy a tablet with pen pressure since what I have now doesn't. Great job on the videos by the way. Very informative especially for artists.
is there an option to integrate the drawings made on each app onto one?
You have to import the files into the app you want to use.
Hopefully i can get one of these soon. I was going to get an ipad but i prefer this just cause you can do more. But nice video by the way 👍
Hi! How do I charge the S pen that comes with S3 tab?
That S Pen does not require charging since it does not need a battery to work.
@@teohyc thanks for your swift response
For drawing i find this tablet quite nice, the app Medibang is really nice. However i find the tablet overall quite slow, scrolling pages like the google play store or the internet is painfull, is it just me? And the battery is melting so fast that i doubt i wouldn't reconsider taking it away from the desk...Could you confirm that it's not just me?
Also, Medibang usually stops at some point, then somehow "restart" (the page goes small, i have to resize it), i believe the memory has reached its limit, does that happen to you too?
I don't really have that issue. It's as fast as day one. Maybe try a factory reset in the worse case scenario.
So can I live without Procreate? What good art apps are only available for iOS? I know artflow and artrage are out for Android. Thanks!
+Joseph Doyen Pencil by FiftyThree is a good app only on iOS. Anyway, there are many drawing apps on iOS and Android. I'm sure you can find one you like.
Would you recommend this tablet for someone who wants tp draw and take notes or do you have a new recomendation?
It's good for beginners exploring digital drawing. Do compare with the new iPad 2018 with Apple Pencil because the price is quite similar now.
Teoh Yi Chie I've heard the iPad and pencil are great but I really prefer the Android experience.
Will you be doing an updated version of this video or doing a new video to talk about the best android tablets for artists and note taking? Your two videos on the subject are excellent and I've watched them both several times.
Hi Teoh 😊
The pen, did it wobble for you too?
I feel like, I break a lot of nips if drawing, because the nip isn't totally sturdy inside the pen and I have to press very hard to get a much thicker line in the art apps - only seems to work fine in the Samsung notes... Wonder if it's just me? Or maybe there's some settings in the apps or the tablet, I need to adjust? 🤔
You/others with those pen problems?
Gonna Google it ofc, didn't find anything last time, so now I'm asking the community on YT.
I'd have a hard time not having a tablet due to my needs, but might send it back for testing if it's just me, before guarantee runs out.
Was looking forward learning to do digital art, but breaking the nips is getting expensive, so I've given op for now. 🙃
The hard tips just seems to scratch the screen, so prefer the softer ones.
I seriously regret not saving extra and get an iPad pro with Apple pencil, though I hate Apples products. Wish they'd make something similar for Android. 😣
Really like all your artists reviews of stuff and such, you really go into detail in tests. 😄
Doesn't wobble that much. But can't compare to the Apple Pencil tip which doesn't move at all.
@@teohyc Thanks for response. 😘
Gonna get it checked in a couple weeks when I can do without, it's so annoying.
Yeah I've tried the apple pencil at a store.... I think I literally looked like this 😍... Ahrg.
Seriously hope Samsung follows along and make something similar.
I really do hate Apple a great deal, for a lot of reasons, but I want to evolve my art too, pff.
Gonna follow your further reviews, maybe you find something in between someday - if they don't come to their senses.. I mean, Samsung must know how much customers they lose to Apple, right..... 🤔 😅
Again, thanks for such a good channel. Lots of love your way. ❤️😄
Wonderful review! Thank you so much for being so helpful :)
+Quirkney Thanks 😉
Hi! I'm taking Chinese lessons and I would like to quit paper for a numeric support. In your opinion, would the tab s3 be good enough to write Chinese or do I shall buy the iPad pro? Thank you!
If it is just for writing, Tab S3 is good enough. Do compare the price with iPad 2018 and Apple Pencil. If the iPad is cheaper, get that because it is better. There is no need to get iPad Pro.
Teoh Yi Chie thank you so much for the answer!