Quite detailed, and a highly accurate representation of door hardware. I'm a door hardware guy / locksmith in Sacramento. It was very nice to hear you say that your breach methods are relative to the emergency. Small shop owners appreciate that.
My dad us a firefighter and has always told me that you never use more force than necessary. He got off shift one day and told me how his crew spent an hour at a shop after the call (fire alarm) was over simply to put the lock back into the door so the owner wouldn't have to worry about it. His other story is a person having a heart attack. They got to the door and it was locked, so his firefighter went back to the engine to grab the tools to open the door carefully, but dispatch came on the radio and said the victim was now gasping fro breath and unable to communicate. So he told his engineer to open the door. His engineer kicked the door hard enough to push the deadbolt thru the door frame (wood) and it swung wide open, about that time the firefighter got back with the proper tools to open it without damage and was like "Well I guess we won't need these." Excellent examples of use of force in forcible entry. One there was no life or property at risk, so no need to go crazy and break shit. The other one there was an immediate threat to the victims life so damage to the door was secondary to victim survival.
You seriously pressed 4 keys to butcher the word "what" that bad? I applaud the effort, but dude, I'd be surprised if he responds. He's not hard to find, try google.
Reminds me when the company I worked for about 20 years ago had the rear door upgraded to one with a panic bar. The vertical top to bottom anti-tamper strip it turned out was optional. Customer service manager forgot her new set of keys and asked to use mine. I popped the push bar as the FF in this video briefly mentioned to make a point the new door was less secure than the old one. The door was retrofitted with the anti-tamper strip that day. I asked her if a new key was placed in the fire fighter key box. She did not know we had one. Fire captain thanked us and reminded his crew to always verify during annual inspection the box has the current keys.
Good stuff Truck 10. I always looked for a cheaper plate glass window next to doors (less expensive to repair than the doors), just the downside is flow path like you mentioned and broken glass to deal with. Always fun working alongside SFD during high rise drills. (Roseville Truck 1-B, retired).
If it is a thumb turn latch inside there is a tool to reach in and let you rotate it from outside. Can be done in seconds and even used after to relock the door if you find it was a false alarm and no one with a key has shown up yet. Also works with weather stripping between the doors if you can wedge it back to give you access. Needs the gap between the doors to insert and the inner lock needs to be a thumb turn so only works on older style setups but still a good option. Right up there with the tool to pull the release handle on a garage door opener to let you lift the door for access as you can do that faster in some cases then kicking down a door if they used long screws and reinforcing pins.
The purpose of defeating the lock is to open the door. It doesn't matter how it is opened if there is a serious fire condition in the building, the ventilation effect will be the same. In that case, the secret is to NOT open the door in any manner until an adequate charged hose line is in position to attempt suppression. If backdraft conditions are present, normally the glass will be hot enough to break when hit with a hose stream, and nothing will save the door from destruction by heat and fire anyway. What this is really about is not doing unnecessary damage during a smoke investigation, or the very early incipient stage, or even free burning stages of a fire in a room separated pretty much from the entry point. Don't do more damage than the fire, if it can be avoided. The mission is to save and protect, not to destroy.
Didn't you hear him say smashing through the door creates a huge ventilation path? It's obviously much better to smash the truck through the wall. Problem solved!
I know a few store around here have doors like that but it's covered in 3m security film. It's extremely hard to knock the glass out because the film stretches and it's glued to the frame.
I'm not a firefighter but I manage a property maintenance company and we mount a KNOX box on the properties to hopefully make things easier. Having a key seems like the best option.
That system is only as good as the owners following the setup and key control for the boxes. If keys make it out to the wild every box is now an unsecured access point. If the owners fail to have the right key or load the box with multiple keys it is no help in an emergency.
Indeed. It's important to be sure that the proper keys, and even better, a tag on each key, are in place. The Knox box door can also be tied into the alarm system, a wise practice. When we access the box, it's known that we are making entry.
This guy needs to watch The Lock Picking Lawyer! He sells a tool that works in less than 30seconds, AND it does NO damage to the door nor the locking mechanism.
All of this and they could simply get a Quick Jim that will engage the thumb bolt on the other side, the quick jim is a tool that is U shaped and allows the person to move the inside thumb bolt as if you where inside allowing you to unlock it without any damage to the property and giving you the ability to make entry when you see fit. Cost is about 80$ or less for Law Enforcement or Emergency personnel.
Very good information... I just imagine it would have been hilarious to do all that work and at the end just simply throw a water can through the glass.
This video showed up in my feed. I watched it and I still have no idea why I watched it. I hope I'll never need to break into a door to a store but, I guess if I ever have to, I will know how but, will not have the tools so I'll still just bust the glass with whatever I can find. I'm sure I can find a car to use. Apparently I can just search RUclips on how to break into and hotwire a car and plow through without any problem at all. If I'm lucky, RUclips will already have it in my recommended. If I'm really lucky it will be instructions for "getting into and starting" a Mercedes if I "lose" my key. Wink... Wink...
All those fancy tools.. you can open that door in 60 sec. with a single pair of vice grips without causing any damage or visible force entry marks. On the mortise lock there is a very small single set screw keeping the key mortise from spinning. If you grab the outer lip with the vice grips and spin counter clockwise the setscrew will slip every time. Unscrew the mortise and reach in the hole with almost anything pointy and move the latch bar to the right. Unlocked~ Have had to do many this way over the last 30 years at my job.
Magnetic locks in a lot of jurisdictions are now against code because they may not automatically release in an emergency or may be difficult to release in a panic/emergency system. Some may be grandfathered in however.
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Quick tip on the panic bar style, on older models the top and bottom pin are connected poorly (read directly) together. If you lift the pin on the bottom the top is usually also pulled. We had problems at work with people sneaking in and only found out about it when my coworker was standing on the other side of the door. He had just kicked them out and was trying to figure out how they had entered.
As was said in the video, it would depend on the gap being wide enough. This is pretty far apart and I'd estimate that someone reasonably skilled with a circular saw could cut through this without damaging the rest of the door, but unless there's severe time pressure the first way to go is to pull out the cylinder. That's a lot easier to replace for the owners of the door - in fact, over here the fire brigade carries replacement cylinders which we'll put in afterwards.
Just because there's a rectangular guard over the cylinder, doesn't tell you if it's rim or mortise. it just keeps you from using a K-Tool on it. the diameter of the actual cylinder is the same.
Why do you show the methods. The only people are you, the fire department, or burglars. I tried it on my residential door and it worked as advertised, THANKS!!!!
Oxygen feeds the fire, breaking the glass would make oxygen go in and the fire would get bigger causing back draft. Its better to be safe then sorry💁♂️
Anyone watching this for correct info this is incorrect info. Cylinder rings does not indicate at all what type of hardware is used. Easiest way for a MS lock which is on this door. Stick a thin bar on top of latch and hit with your ax. There is only a tiny pin that keeps the throw bolt engaged. For panics the tool is easiest without damage. Or just stick pry bar and jerk pry. You'll just pull strike off jamb. In reality a majority of hardware is actually pretty flimsy
Since I'm not a firefighter, I would have enjoyed this presentation a lot more had you found an out-of-business establishment and actually forced the door. Seeing is much more informative than having something described.
Panic Hardware? We call it vertical rod assembly. You can put panic hardware on any style lock, standard or vertical rod. Panic Hardware usually refers to the mechanical or electrical push bar on the inside that releases the latch.
Either RUclips thinks i want to be a fireman or a burglar by recommending this video lol
🤔😂🤣
Lmaoooo I think being a fireman be awesome and an amazing career man 😉
Idk, but I came here after watching some GTA vids lol.
@@lexluthor3890 you are definitely on a watchlist 😂
The two are not mutually exclusive
Quite detailed, and a highly accurate representation of door hardware. I'm a door hardware guy / locksmith in Sacramento. It was very nice to hear you say that your breach methods are relative to the emergency. Small shop owners appreciate that.
My dad us a firefighter and has always told me that you never use more force than necessary.
He got off shift one day and told me how his crew spent an hour at a shop after the call (fire alarm) was over simply to put the lock back into the door so the owner wouldn't have to worry about it.
His other story is a person having a heart attack. They got to the door and it was locked, so his firefighter went back to the engine to grab the tools to open the door carefully, but dispatch came on the radio and said the victim was now gasping fro breath and unable to communicate. So he told his engineer to open the door. His engineer kicked the door hard enough to push the deadbolt thru the door frame (wood) and it swung wide open, about that time the firefighter got back with the proper tools to open it without damage and was like "Well I guess we won't need these."
Excellent examples of use of force in forcible entry. One there was no life or property at risk, so no need to go crazy and break shit. The other one there was an immediate threat to the victims life so damage to the door was secondary to victim survival.
Jared Barsuglia WUT ur address
You seriously pressed 4 keys to butcher the word "what" that bad? I applaud the effort, but dude, I'd be surprised if he responds. He's not hard to find, try google.
bamrak2000 my name is gay asf
You didn't have to point out your name sucks, it's evident.
Thanks for the advice for breaking in and stea.... Saving people
Reminds me when the company I worked for about 20 years ago had the rear door upgraded to one with a panic bar. The vertical top to bottom anti-tamper strip it turned out was optional. Customer service manager forgot her new set of keys and asked to use mine. I popped the push bar as the FF in this video briefly mentioned to make a point the new door was less secure than the old one. The door was retrofitted with the anti-tamper strip that day. I asked her if a new key was placed in the fire fighter key box. She did not know we had one. Fire captain thanked us and reminded his crew to always verify during annual inspection the box has the current keys.
Later that same night, Yankee Hardware was cleaned out...but the door remained intact.
Now THAT was funny!
Damn I thought he was gonna fuck that door up..
Good stuff Truck 10. I always looked for a cheaper plate glass window next to doors (less expensive to repair than the doors), just the downside is flow path like you mentioned and broken glass to deal with. Always fun working alongside SFD during high rise drills. (Roseville Truck 1-B, retired).
I haved watched like 30 fireman videos in less than a day and all of those are recommended. That's the signal.
All the local burglars commend your advice
National Dashcam yea like they really gonna take the time to do this
I wouldn't put it past them, there's some smart criminals out there!
National Dashcam criminals will just smash the glass
The only reason Im watching this.
No such thing as a smart criminal.
If it is a thumb turn latch inside there is a tool to reach in and let you rotate it from outside. Can be done in seconds and even used after to relock the door if you find it was a false alarm and no one with a key has shown up yet. Also works with weather stripping between the doors if you can wedge it back to give you access.
Needs the gap between the doors to insert and the inner lock needs to be a thumb turn so only works on older style setups but still a good option. Right up there with the tool to pull the release handle on a garage door opener to let you lift the door for access as you can do that faster in some cases then kicking down a door if they used long screws and reinforcing pins.
good training video but driving the truck thru the door would be easier
I guess it depends on the emergency, I personally would just take a glass breaker and smash right through it.
Yeah and then you have bigger ventilation which is worse. That's also why they don't just break glass.
The purpose of defeating the lock is to open the door. It doesn't matter how it is opened if there is a serious fire condition in the building, the ventilation effect will be the same. In that case, the secret is to NOT open the door in any manner until an adequate charged hose line is in position to attempt suppression. If backdraft conditions are present, normally the glass will be hot enough to break when hit with a hose stream, and nothing will save the door from destruction by heat and fire anyway. What this is really about is not doing unnecessary damage during a smoke investigation, or the very early incipient stage, or even free burning stages of a fire in a room separated pretty much from the entry point. Don't do more damage than the fire, if it can be avoided. The mission is to save and protect, not to destroy.
Hey look folks...an expert.
Didn't you hear him say smashing through the door creates a huge ventilation path? It's obviously much better to smash the truck through the wall. Problem solved!
You forgot to break the door.
It would have been great to actually see what you are predicting
Dont know how i started watching this but maybe it will come in handy someday
I know a few store around here have doors like that but it's covered in 3m security film. It's extremely hard to knock the glass out because the film stretches and it's glued to the frame.
i have no idea why i am watching this video
Very detailed. This guy is an expert. That said I have no idea why I’m watching this I work a desk job.
The top pin is in the door itself. It slides up into the frame, not drop into the door.
The song with a big spinning blade cut down right down the middel of the lock
I guess I just learned something about doors. Thanks dude
I'm not a firefighter but I manage a property maintenance company and we mount a KNOX box on the properties to hopefully make things easier. Having a key seems like the best option.
That system is only as good as the owners following the setup and key control for the boxes. If keys make it out to the wild every box is now an unsecured access point. If the owners fail to have the right key or load the box with multiple keys it is no help in an emergency.
Indeed. It's important to be sure that the proper keys, and even better, a tag on each key, are in place.
The Knox box door can also be tied into the alarm system, a wise practice. When we access the box, it's known that we are making entry.
I can’t believe you just told the world how to defeat panic hardware
ZOMG - it's so secure it can be defeated with a coat hanger!!!!
(They're also usually on GLASS doors) FFS.
Every 'bad guy' in America knows these techniques. You can also bump the lock.
This guy needs to watch The Lock Picking Lawyer! He sells a tool that works in less than 30seconds, AND it does NO damage to the door nor the locking mechanism.
What about that security gate behind the door?
Why Knox boxes are becoming a bigger thing
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@Kurtis
U boys n girls stay safe you guys are the biggest heros
All of this and they could simply get a Quick Jim that will engage the thumb bolt on the other side, the quick jim is a tool that is U shaped and allows the person to move the inside thumb bolt as if you where inside allowing you to unlock it without any damage to the property and giving you the ability to make entry when you see fit. Cost is about 80$ or less for Law Enforcement or Emergency personnel.
A lot of places have a lock on both sides.
Great info in here. Thanks guys!
I robbed a gas station with this tip ✅
Does your station not keep a key to all commercial buildings?
Very good information... I just imagine it would have been hilarious to do all that work and at the end just simply throw a water can through the glass.
Sparrows DDT @ 4:50 ?
Why was this in my recommended?
Wondering the same thing. Probably paid RUclips a bit to get it there. Idk.
You looked at it didn't you? They know something you don't...
lol..
Same lmao
Gary Ning it's a good skill to have.
Hehe. For this entry, we have a special non-destructive tool.
Allow me to introduce, the Lockpicking Lawyer.
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!
This video showed up in my feed. I watched it and I still have no idea why I watched it. I hope I'll never need to break into a door to a store but, I guess if I ever have to, I will know how but, will not have the tools so I'll still just bust the glass with whatever I can find. I'm sure I can find a car to use. Apparently I can just search RUclips on how to break into and hotwire a car and plow through without any problem at all. If I'm lucky, RUclips will already have it in my recommended. If I'm really lucky it will be instructions for "getting into and starting" a Mercedes if I "lose" my key. Wink... Wink...
All those fancy tools.. you can open that door in 60 sec. with a single pair of vice grips without causing any damage or visible force entry marks. On the mortise lock there is a very small single set screw keeping the key mortise from spinning. If you grab the outer lip with the vice grips and spin counter clockwise the setscrew will slip every time. Unscrew the mortise and reach in the hole with almost anything pointy and move the latch bar to the right. Unlocked~ Have had to do many this way over the last 30 years at my job.
There can also be a mag lock on the inside front frame of the door
Magnetic locks in a lot of jurisdictions are now against code because they may not automatically release in an emergency or may be difficult to release in a panic/emergency system. Some may be grandfathered in however.
What about when a place has a multipoint hook lock and triple toughened laminate safety glass bonded into the frame with structural silicon?
Breacher up!
(or just use the saw)
Then the only thing to do now is grab the marshmallows and call the coroner.
Al Paca *furiously starts the K12*
mount a battering ram to the fire truck and bust it down
As long as there isn't a panic lock up and top, and it has a rotating key on the inside, you can pick that in about 10sec
Why was this in my recommended I live in Ireland lmao
Do you not have doors in Ireland ? lol
Mark Doyle same!
Ireland again, weird RUclips algorithm
Mark Doyle I live on planet Venus and somehow this popped up in my feed. Lol
What carabiners are those?
I was waiting patiently for him to actually open the door
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Yet another independent hardware store gone. RIP Yankee Hardware.
Corey Huntz That is exactly the same thing that I thought. All the business has been redirected to the giants 😀
That’s the good old Adams rite maximum security lock. Pops right out!
Quick tip on the panic bar style, on older models the top and bottom pin are connected poorly (read directly) together. If you lift the pin on the bottom the top is usually also pulled. We had problems at work with people sneaking in and only found out about it when my coworker was standing on the other side of the door. He had just kicked them out and was trying to figure out how they had entered.
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Invaluable, thank you so much
Would a saw cut the bolt without damaging the frame of the door?
As was said in the video, it would depend on the gap being wide enough. This is pretty far apart and I'd estimate that someone reasonably skilled with a circular saw could cut through this without damaging the rest of the door, but unless there's severe time pressure the first way to go is to pull out the cylinder. That's a lot easier to replace for the owners of the door - in fact, over here the fire brigade carries replacement cylinders which we'll put in afterwards.
Just because there's a rectangular guard over the cylinder, doesn't tell you if it's rim or mortise. it just keeps you from using a K-Tool on it. the diameter of the actual cylinder is the same.
Why do you show the methods. The only people are you, the fire department, or burglars. I tried it on my residential door and it worked as advertised, THANKS!!!!
through the lock?
Is that Kimi Raikkonen?
Actually the bolt goes from the door into the top and bottom of the threshold otherwise all correct. Oh and the bar on inside is a crash bar
U teaching ppl how to break in to stores thanks going to put it to use
I want open Bathurst holden doors how
My local FD: Nah man just pop it
I'll save your time, he didnt break the glass
Oxygen feeds the fire, breaking the glass would make oxygen go in and the fire would get bigger causing back draft. Its better to be safe then sorry💁♂️
@@aafishin8330
Create a vent on the downwind side high up as possible negates the backdraught/ flashover
I just tapped a random video. Didn't realize it's Sac Fire. I live in Sacramento. What part of town did y'all shoot this video?
You know a sure fire way to tell if there is panic hardware on a glass door.........look through the glass door and say oh there's a panic bar there.
Thank you, this is very informative for us burglars.
Not really, these are all overt entry
@@firstname3430 what a way to ruin a joke 🤡
@@mumie2477 not much of a joke little kid
Anyone watching this for correct info this is incorrect info. Cylinder rings does not indicate at all what type of hardware is used. Easiest way for a MS lock which is on this door. Stick a thin bar on top of latch and hit with your ax. There is only a tiny pin that keeps the throw bolt engaged. For panics the tool is easiest without damage. Or just stick pry bar and jerk pry. You'll just pull strike off jamb. In reality a majority of hardware is actually pretty flimsy
Thanks. I love my new TV.
Great video brother ✊🏼👍🏼
Fucking hell , everyone is an expert on RUclips . ...*Rolleyes*
Located on Fruitridge Rd and Stockton Blvd
Why my department dont upload nice training videos
Since I'm not a firefighter, I would have enjoyed this presentation a lot more had you found an out-of-business establishment and actually forced the door. Seeing is much more informative than having something described.
People walking by are getting a class on how to get in for tonight's looting and burning.
Are you sure your a fireman and not a locksmith??
Great now I got all the feds watching my internet traffic
Criminals everywhere thank you for this video.
That door looks like it was hung improperly but idk
Thank you, I know that place. The old
Ace hardware store on Stockton.
its closed though, you cant go in
So it’s basically like a bbq grill
Cordless angel grinder done!
Very Interesting!
use the TS420 and cut the striker pin the door will open.
I just ordered from AutoAnything Sacramento cali
alot of firemen carry a special tool... that i dont have on me.... hehehe classic. Good video brother. Thanks for the effort
You should watch the lock-picking lawyer video on these doors. You can get in quicker with zero damage done.
Cordless sawzall or grinder....
Dang...I thought you were actually gonna demonstrate it.
Dunno why U-tube wants me to watch this, but way cool.
just use the cut off saw/rotary saw its the fastest way and clauses little damage
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Panic Hardware? We call it vertical rod assembly. You can put panic hardware on any style lock, standard or vertical rod. Panic Hardware usually refers to the mechanical or electrical push bar on the inside that releases the latch.
U r correct sir.
I was really hoping for some broken glass...
interesting
You guys need the lockpicking lawyer he'll open this door for yall under 15 seconds
I wonder why they closed down, 67 years in business.
1:36 do people actually think the glass goes all the way through the frame?!
Yeah I couldn't believe that either ,sad
Wow he isn't even close in his description of door hardware.
Did this guy just give me a sales pitch on this door
Burglary 101 totarial episode 3 how to brake a door
$30 J tool thumbturner, no lock destruction necessary.
I mean... You could also use the masterkey, the Benelli M4 ;)
I just wait till the fires out then I go in...or whatever's left of it
Or better than that is vise grips
Remarkably unprepared for a fireman. All the methods he described that require an assistive device, he didn’t have with him.