Firefighter Forcible Entry - "Sounding/Shocking" versus "Gapping"
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2019
- "Sounding/Pre-Shocking" vs "Gapping" a door?
Some FFs and Instructors believe in "Sounding" or "Pre-Shocking" a locked INWARD opening door before you Gap, Set and Force the door. However many other FFs and Instructors (including myself) don't think it's necessary - WHY? - Consider the following facts:
1. You should always try the door (twice) before you try to force it - This step is universal regardless of your approach. The reason you should try "twice" is to get a true feel for the locks as well as the door itself (which may not even be locked, but just tight in the jamb).
2. Gapping the door instead of sounding/shocking actually saves time, reduces additional steps and does a better job of weakening the locks - By the time you hit the door (High - Middle - Low) you will have already gapped the door, put a hurt on the locks and made a better purchase point for completing the force.
3. If the door jamb has a nailed on stop, gapping the door will help to pull the stop off - This will expose the normal seam between the door and jamb - Which at minimum will provide another purchase point as well as help you to see what locks are engaged.. Sounding or Pre-Shocking the door in many cases won't accomplish any of these.
4. Finally, remember we're FFs who are trying to get in to RESCUE occupants who may be lying unconscious right on the other side of the door - Not a Police tactical team trying to BLAST the door open to take the occupants DOWN. If we were, we would be using a battering ram to force inward opening doors without the fear of injuring anyone on the other side instead of using the IRONs which allow for more control when forcing the door.
In the end use the techniques you want, but don't make your decisions solely on experience working with forcible entry props and simulators, much less just watching RUclips videos - Base it on what works in the real world, on real doors and real locks.
Train, Stay Prepared, Be Aggressive, Make the Save - SURVIVE!
Dale G. Pekel
Guy’s been on since 1981. He gives credit to the senior guys who taught him, and those men learned from their senior guys before them. To say this man knows his shit is an understatement. Thank you for this training. Stay safe, everyone.
This is how my engineer taught me when I came on to a 3 man engine in semi rural NC. We have to operate under the assumption that we’ll be alone for a bit; and you may have to accomplish several tasks by yourself. This is the way to go when you’re also the guy bringing the nozzle to door.
Look at the physical condtion this guy is in. Great example for the young guys to stay fit on this job. Well Done!
New York fire fighters are different
Game changer for Probies Thank you!
Great job explaining and demonstrating. Gonna share this with at least a dozen FDs...your videos make a difference
Awesome information thank you!
Excellent video especially the tips at the end about gapping while alone. Thank you brother.
Great information Dale, Keeping things simple and straight forward!
I appreciate your work brother, top notch!!!
Pure excellence! Thank you sir!
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Excellent. Experienced and to the point.
I agree! In my career never needed to sound the door. Waste of time and energy
Mike Peroine is back baby!!!!
Um dos melhores "pé de cabra" multiuso q eu já vi (custa caro), realmente o melhor tutorial de um arrombamento eficaz do RUclips. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🎈
awesome tool, technique and video :D I subscribed
This dude is a stud. Great vid
Respect.. just so much respect.. thank you. So helpful and I can't wait to show the guys. 😏
Well Done Sir
Thank u my brother
Hope you and family are well Brother. Happy Christmas.
Rarely do I sound or shock a door. In an emergency you have to focus your effort on getting the door open with force.
After 30 years “shocking the door” is a huge waste of time and worse, I’ve seen two guys hurt their rotator cuff by the shock traveling back up the bar into the shoulder. Working the door from bottom to top ( can opener ) works like a champ for tight doors.
Great door, great information.
Really useful and excellent tips for my work
Agreed 100% Sir
ayyy I like the number on that guy's hat. that's a good number. good strong number. totally not biased at all.
That's how it's done.
Get this prop. Get him and his team to train your team on it. It's an amazing training session. Plus he is funny as shit.
I shoukda been a fireman...😭
Always try the door knob first.
I don’t sound or shock to find locks....I hit it hard to potentially just blow the lock up....I have opened countless residential doors with the top adze,spike section and flat head axe....then door is open, attack line coming right behind it....sounding or shocking on commercial doors? Nahhhhh, just force it.
I use the Key method 🤫
I dont shock the door, i try to open in and i will give it one good 'shock' to see if i can cowboy it, after that im prying it
All that banging going on and I'm not even there with you. What a shame🤔
Freqky deeky
This guys must have came on in 1981 🤷🏻♂️👍🏻👍🏻