Switch to 400k baud on your radio settings then switch to 500hz and restart you should be able to see 500hz that worked on my X9 lite yesterday at least I can’t get it to work on my QX7 though. Since it can’t run in 400k baud stock as I’m sure you know. If not then I’m surprised the TX16 can’t run in 500hz that just changed my mind about buying one then.
OpenTX doesn't poll the gimbals at 500 Hz (yet) even if ELRS is running at 500 Hz. It's not a radiomaster issue. Your radio is the same. Also, CRSF protocol doesn't have 11 bit precision which is needed to make 500 Hz effective. To actually get useful 500 Hz all the way end to end you need edgetx on the radio and CRSF v3 on the FC. Eventually opentx will support 500 Hz gimbal polling but not today.
I've gought my FPV set 2 years ago and didnt do a single flight for all of these two years until the last weekend. I did a first flight and its something incredible! My hands wobbled of adrenaline and i was full of joy, its weird and pleasant feeling at the same time!
25hz was removed to allow 500hz as a default option. There was a poll and nobody at the time seemed to be interested in keeping that rate around. Range on 50hz is still insane though, I am satisfied with 150hz for range and use 250 or 500hz on the field. If you want 500hz working as it should, I recommend flashing EdgeTX.
I have been using 25Hz on 915.(but only goes to 200Hz😥) . 10mW goes out about same time as my video with patches lol still not working on opentx 2.3.14?
@@divingfalconfpv4602 oh, is 500hz working from stick to module now on build 14? Once I flashed EdgeTX and everything was setup and working I didnt look back!
Love the vids Bardwell! There is another out there where someone is using ELRS setup for dynamic power in it shifts up the rf mw to the next level of power as the dbm approaches a low level and/or LQ drops below something like 90%. Forget the user but would love to see you do a vid on how to set that up and use it. 😀
That's in master currently for 2.0 and is still undergoing tweaks, so it might be premature to make video about it just yet. I think after release though it would be a great short "You're gonna learn something today" though.
Between How great ELRS is getting and the fact that all ImmersionRC seems to care about is hardcore racing, im begenning to wish I would have waited. Dont get me wrong, ghost is great, but man this is getting nice.
FYI you can flash ELRS onto Ghost TX/RX hardware. "ExpressLRS can be flashed into existing Frsky R9M hardware (RX and TX), Jumper R900 RXs, SiYi FM30 Hardware (Rx and TX), GHOST hardware (RX and TX) or Custom PCBs can be made if you enjoy tinkering."
expresslrs is no match for ghost in terms of build quality, latency and jitter. ghost is very versatile module, best for racing and decent in long range. expresslrs have only one big advantage and benefit, cheap price.
@@lucalive1302 sure except for the fact that none of that is true other than build quality... ELRS has the same, or better, latency, and jitter, independently confirmed by UAVTech with pretty thorough testing. Build quality of the ghost tx is nice but I mean, it's on the back of my radio.... I never even see it. I like ghost, don't get me wrong, The proton packs are great on my toothpicks. But man, ELRS is super compelling and it's cheaper. But ghost does not beat express LRS in latency or jitter. In fact, the reason ghost even has good latency and jitter is because of pressure from ELRS (the introduction of 500hz, and work Tony has put into jitter reduction are a result of UAVTech testing showing ELRS stomping ghost...) The annoying thing about ghost is all the racer stuff. VTXs not turning on by default, lots of features made for racers are confusing for those who don't need them, things like that, AND it costs more. I am damn happy I chose ghost over tracer, though.
@@dogjutsufpv3813 yeah I mean I'm not going to go that far.... If I wanted express LRS I'll get a cheap module for it, I'm not flashing over my expensive ghost gear. I'd sell it before I flashed it...
@@mouseFPV I was standing between the ghost and the explrs one month ago. I decided to buy ghost and do not regret the money spent on it. I am very happy, although I am just a beginner pilot. Most of my colleagues experienced racing pilots use ghost. They also tested explrs and confirm that when it comes to latencies and jitter, ghost is better.
Hello. Your videos are very good and help me a lot. Unfortunately this video in question does not allow to enable subtitles. I'm not fluent in English, so I use RUclips's translate function through subtitles. If you can do something, I would be very grateful.
Thanks JB! I'm new to all this but I'm finally out flying the spi receivers exresslrs sounded great so I figured let's go for it. So far it has been great I got the ELRS aoi board and it's the best whoop ever lol. I just got my larva x switched to to ELRS with the ep2 rx and next is my avant ciro 3 freestyle will get the ep1. The whole fleets going ELRS the only problem I have ran into is the 4 month wait for the namimno module so while i wait i got the happymodle module. The chip shortage is a bummer 😥 but expresslrs is amazing 🤩🥳 good by spi and hello low latency rock solid happiness 😂😂. Great job joshua, I may have to increase my patron level 😂😂
I have a problem, my range is so bad with my r9 2019 900mhz. 400 meters and failsafe. A new reciever and antenna are helping nothing ( other reciever placement too). I flasht both new? My lq is most of the time high but the rssidb is so low i have after 300meters -90 at 50 mw ???? Can someone help me
Where to go from here? My current radio setup is a Jumper T-lite with a crossfire Nano module. The jumper is ok, and I do like the portability of it. What I dont like is the power issues and I can not go beyond 100mw, which is a problem if I want to fly some long range. Im considering buying a new radio and moving over to ELRS. I can’t make up my mind to go with the TBS Tango 2 or the Radiomaster TX16S. I would love to buy them both. Which one would you recommend for ELRS?
I am using a mini module and a number of different ELRS receivers. One being an spi. All of them are set at 7-100. since I do not have a remote with a lua script, is there a way to adjust this? What is the ELRS rate 0-3 in betaflight cli?
Elrs spi rx won't bind at 100 or 100full packet rate . Or 33. I used 50 and instant bind on elrsv3.3 with an elrs v 3 something spi reciever . All v3 rx's and tx's v3.1 , 3.2 ,3.3 etc. Bind together
Reviews Could you please tell me how | use my drone with SPI ExpressLRS 2.4GHZz receiver with my radio Tx 12. I did everything in the remote control, so | used the CRSF method. but they don't connect. should i flash the SPI ExpressLRS in the drone? and can | do that? Thanks for your video
I did the update, and looks like things are working! Only weird thing... The ESC/FC initialize twice when I plug in now... Like the startup beep sequence does first 3 beeps, restarts, does first 3 beeps and then the two longer beeps after. What does that mean? And is there a way I can make it stop happening twice? Haha. Thanks!
Question :Just converted my second quad to elrs using R9M/ R9mm flashed with elrs. It's on a FPVCycle Zeez AIO. The link quality reads exactly like this "LQ 600". The first bird I converted read "LQ 5:100" which appeared correct. So how do I interpret "LQ 600" ? I don't even know what this means. BF 4.1
my elrs gives just 1.3 km range on 1w power and f100hz . can you tell me whats the issue because in some videos they say elrs has got 100 km range and never failsafe but in real life its just 1.3 km. is there any setting for elrs to get that 100 km range . my setup is Ranger tx module 1 watt, radiomaster tx16s and RP1 receiver with matek CRSF to PWM v10 converter board . and input from BEC is 6v.
F1000 is FLRC modulation. It has less range than the default LoRa modulation used on the "standard" RF modes. For more on this topic: ruclips.net/video/S_5k5dIdQ4o/видео.html
I have a Jumper t-lite radio an just recieved my Elrs module and a few recievers. My question is, can I set it all up without a computer/laptop ? I have a cheap tablet that I use the speedybee app on. That's all I've had since I started this hobby. Can that be used or do I need to buy a laptop? Thanks!
I cannot trouble shoot this dang spi board! Two of em. I got happy model slim pro, literadio3, (2 thinking 2 was bad) betafpv 5a ELRS spi boards, everything is 2.4. I get Lq7:0, -130, and “10” quality on both. Struggling lmao
It binds, says connected in receiver tab, but throttle flickers from “0” to “-negative” and all inputs are lagged/stop-continue after a sec. If it does arm it’ll go 5-10ft before falling out the sky.
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you, I have 2 ELRS receivers ready to solder in but then the dang sbus pad fell off so can’t solder. Gotta love betafpv! Thanks for all you do Josh! I’ll try 2k
@@JoshuaBardwell yea I f'd up, I jumped on elrs discord. I had rssi on an aux channel. rssi acd was off, however the aux channel was on. once I disabled rssi on a channel , I got my rssi and my lq.. thanks.
Switch to 400k baud on your radio settings then switch to 500hz and restart you should be able to see 500hz that worked on my X9 lite yesterday at least I can’t get it to work on my QX7 though. Since it can’t run in 400k baud stock as I’m sure you know. If not then I’m surprised the TX16 can’t run in 500hz that just changed my mind about buying one then.
OpenTX doesn't poll the gimbals at 500 Hz (yet) even if ELRS is running at 500 Hz. It's not a radiomaster issue. Your radio is the same. Also, CRSF protocol doesn't have 11 bit precision which is needed to make 500 Hz effective. To actually get useful 500 Hz all the way end to end you need edgetx on the radio and CRSF v3 on the FC. Eventually opentx will support 500 Hz gimbal polling but not today.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
@@JoshuaBardwell how do I know that my FC supports CRSF V3 ?
(I mostly fly Tiny Whoops and Toothpicks with AIO boards)
Big fan, thanks as always. Don't fly ELRS but need my JB fix.
Getting bk into fpv after a 3year break...all this tec is frying my brain 😂
I've gought my FPV set 2 years ago and didnt do a single flight for all of these two years until the last weekend. I did a first flight and its something incredible! My hands wobbled of adrenaline and i was full of joy, its weird and pleasant feeling at the same time!
25hz was removed to allow 500hz as a default option. There was a poll and nobody at the time seemed to be interested in keeping that rate around. Range on 50hz is still insane though, I am satisfied with 150hz for range and use 250 or 500hz on the field. If you want 500hz working as it should, I recommend flashing EdgeTX.
I have been using 25Hz on 915.(but only goes to 200Hz😥) . 10mW goes out about same time as my video with patches lol
still not working on opentx 2.3.14?
@@divingfalconfpv4602 oh, is 500hz working from stick to module now on build 14? Once I flashed EdgeTX and everything was setup and working I didnt look back!
@@BrandonBeans idk I thought I heard you guys say that lmao 🤣 I have no clue. I haven't been able to get 2.4 yet. Still on 900
Awesome! This answered the question I asked in your BetaFPV HX115 LR video 3 days ago. 😁👍
Man youre really answering all my elrs questions bardwell!
I just posted a PR to the ELRS Docs describing this on Sunday! Are you stalking me, Bardwell? 🤪
Love the vids Bardwell! There is another out there where someone is using ELRS setup for dynamic power in it shifts up the rf mw to the next level of power as the dbm approaches a low level and/or LQ drops below something like 90%. Forget the user but would love to see you do a vid on how to set that up and use it. 😀
That's in master currently for 2.0 and is still undergoing tweaks, so it might be premature to make video about it just yet. I think after release though it would be a great short "You're gonna learn something today" though.
Dynamic power isn't working very good at least that's what I heard from someone..
Awesome, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😃
I was really curious about that!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I ve been Searching for this answer.. Thanks
Thank you
You help a lot on a lot of stuff I never knew
Short video straight to the point: Nice
Between How great ELRS is getting and the fact that all ImmersionRC seems to care about is hardcore racing, im begenning to wish I would have waited. Dont get me wrong, ghost is great, but man this is getting nice.
FYI you can flash ELRS onto Ghost TX/RX hardware. "ExpressLRS can be flashed into existing Frsky R9M hardware (RX and TX), Jumper R900 RXs, SiYi FM30 Hardware (Rx and TX), GHOST hardware (RX and TX) or Custom PCBs can be made if you enjoy tinkering."
expresslrs is no match for ghost in terms of build quality, latency and jitter. ghost is very versatile module, best for racing and decent in long range. expresslrs have only one big advantage and benefit, cheap price.
@@lucalive1302 sure except for the fact that none of that is true other than build quality...
ELRS has the same, or better, latency, and jitter, independently confirmed by UAVTech with pretty thorough testing.
Build quality of the ghost tx is nice but I mean, it's on the back of my radio.... I never even see it.
I like ghost, don't get me wrong, The proton packs are great on my toothpicks. But man, ELRS is super compelling and it's cheaper.
But ghost does not beat express LRS in latency or jitter. In fact, the reason ghost even has good latency and jitter is because of pressure from ELRS (the introduction of 500hz, and work Tony has put into jitter reduction are a result of UAVTech testing showing ELRS stomping ghost...)
The annoying thing about ghost is all the racer stuff. VTXs not turning on by default, lots of features made for racers are confusing for those who don't need them, things like that, AND it costs more.
I am damn happy I chose ghost over tracer, though.
@@dogjutsufpv3813 yeah I mean I'm not going to go that far.... If I wanted express LRS I'll get a cheap module for it, I'm not flashing over my expensive ghost gear. I'd sell it before I flashed it...
@@mouseFPV I was standing between the ghost and the explrs one month ago. I decided to buy ghost and do not regret the money spent on it. I am very happy, although I am just a beginner pilot. Most of my colleagues experienced racing pilots use ghost. They also tested explrs and confirm that when it comes to latencies and jitter, ghost is better.
Hello. Your videos are very good and help me a lot. Unfortunately this video in question does not allow to enable subtitles. I'm not fluent in English, so I use RUclips's translate function through subtitles. If you can do something, I would be very grateful.
I have learned something. Thank you.
This is good info thanks!!
Interesting going back and watching this now that ELRS3.0 is out. My link quality packet rate is now 12! ;)
That clears some things up, thanks.
thanks for the helpful elrs content
Thanks JB! I'm new to all this but I'm finally out flying the spi receivers exresslrs sounded great so I figured let's go for it. So far it has been great I got the ELRS aoi board and it's the best whoop ever lol. I just got my larva x switched to to ELRS with the ep2 rx and next is my avant ciro 3 freestyle will get the ep1. The whole fleets going ELRS the only problem I have ran into is the 4 month wait for the namimno module so while i wait i got the happymodle module. The chip shortage is a bummer 😥 but expresslrs is amazing 🤩🥳 good by spi and hello low latency rock solid happiness 😂😂. Great job joshua, I may have to increase my patron level 😂😂
More Great info...thanks JB..🤔🇬🇧
why have you rx bad flashing ?? i ve this message and drone won t arm?, how can i do . please an explication or video thanks
I have a problem, my range is so bad with my r9 2019 900mhz. 400 meters and failsafe. A new reciever and antenna are helping nothing ( other reciever placement too). I flasht both new? My lq is most of the time high but the rssidb is so low i have after 300meters -90 at 50 mw ???? Can someone help me
Where to go from here? My current radio setup is a Jumper T-lite with a crossfire Nano module. The jumper is ok, and I do like the portability of it. What I dont like is the power issues and I can not go beyond 100mw, which is a problem if I want to fly some long range. Im considering buying a new radio and moving over to ELRS. I can’t make up my mind to go with the TBS Tango 2 or the Radiomaster TX16S. I would love to buy them both. Which one would you recommend for ELRS?
I am using a mini module and a number of different ELRS receivers. One being an spi. All of them are set at 7-100. since I do not have a remote with a lua script, is there a way to adjust this? What is the ELRS rate 0-3 in betaflight cli?
Everyone flying fpv should watch all your videos anyway, they should be mandatory with a small test at the end
Absolutely…🤔 The Bardwell Observation Quotient (BOQ) 😄
Elrs spi rx won't bind at 100 or 100full packet rate . Or 33.
I used 50 and instant bind on elrsv3.3 with an elrs v 3 something spi reciever . All v3 rx's and tx's v3.1 , 3.2 ,3.3 etc. Bind together
SPI RX only support the LoRA packet modes, not the F, Full, or D packet modes.
Reviews Could you please tell me
how | use my drone with SPI ExpressLRS 2.4GHZz receiver with my radio Tx 12. I did
everything in the remote control, so | used the CRSF method. but they don't connect. should i flash the SPI ExpressLRS in the drone? and can | do that? Thanks for your video
I ask a question and JB makes a video about it.
I did the update, and looks like things are working! Only weird thing... The ESC/FC initialize twice when I plug in now... Like the startup beep sequence does first 3 beeps, restarts, does first 3 beeps and then the two longer beeps after. What does that mean? And is there a way I can make it stop happening twice? Haha. Thanks!
Do you always need to flash a preset in BF depending on what Hz you use in the radio?
Yes
Does ELRS have a dynamic function where it chops and changes the packet rate to keep range?
No. ELRS packet rate is always fixed.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks again JB!
Serious question.. are your beta flight videos still up to date? I’m building a quad soon
Question :Just converted my second quad to elrs using R9M/ R9mm flashed with elrs. It's on a FPVCycle Zeez AIO. The link quality reads exactly like this "LQ 600".
The first bird I converted read "LQ 5:100" which appeared correct. So how do I interpret "LQ 600" ? I don't even know what this means.
BF 4.1
I am also on BF 4.1 and I get 700 LQ on 250hz even if it should correspond to 6:100 in bf 4.2 so to 600 in bf 4.1
@@Dosclic98FPV yea, I figured out that 4.2 + allows mores characters to show LQ more correctly.
my elrs gives just 1.3 km range on 1w power and f100hz . can you tell me whats the issue because in some videos they say elrs has got 100 km range and never failsafe but in real life its just 1.3 km. is there any setting for elrs to get that 100 km range . my setup is Ranger tx module 1 watt, radiomaster tx16s and RP1 receiver with matek CRSF to PWM v10 converter board . and input from BEC is 6v.
F1000 is FLRC modulation. It has less range than the default LoRa modulation used on the "standard" RF modes. For more on this topic: ruclips.net/video/S_5k5dIdQ4o/видео.html
@@JoshuaBardwell so what frequency should i use for long range of 100 km
50 Hz.
Hi Joshua is the FAA requiring remote identification yet on drones > 250 grams?
The phase in date is still a few years out.
I have a Jumper t-lite radio an just recieved my Elrs module and a few recievers. My question is, can I set it all up without a computer/laptop ? I have a cheap tablet that I use the speedybee app on. That's all I've had since I started this hobby. Can that be used or do I need to buy a laptop? Thanks!
You need a laptop to flash firmware and make changes to the ExpressLRS TX & RX. No android/IOS version yet.
Hey Joshua, could you make video how to set ERLS LQ and dbi value in DJI goggles OSD since many people switching to digital, tnx man!
Aux 11 and aux 12 are lq and rssi. You can set either as the rssi channel in receiver tab and it will come into the goggle as rssi OSD element.
Does ELRS change the packet rate dynamically like Crossfire?
No it doesn't.
why does my lq shows 700 at maximum??
I cannot trouble shoot this dang spi board! Two of em. I got happy model slim pro, literadio3, (2 thinking 2 was bad) betafpv 5a ELRS spi boards, everything is 2.4. I get Lq7:0, -130, and “10” quality on both. Struggling lmao
It binds, says connected in receiver tab, but throttle flickers from “0” to “-negative” and all inputs are lagged/stop-continue after a sec. If it does arm it’ll go 5-10ft before falling out the sky.
Both boards so I’m thinking it’s me
Make sure pid loop rate is set to 2k. At higher values, SPI receiver is not reliable.
@@JoshuaBardwell thank you, I have 2 ELRS receivers ready to solder in but then the dang sbus pad fell off so can’t solder. Gotta love betafpv! Thanks for all you do Josh! I’ll try 2k
@@JoshuaBardwell could it be the happy model module however?
enable subtitles. please.
I'm interested in what you have to say
I always enable subtitles. If you don't see them, it's because RUclips hasn't made them. I have no control over this.
@@JoshuaBardwell okay.
keep going
you're the best
I have had my LQ hit 40 and it didnt failsafe. but i had like no video so couldnt go further..
@@KonstantinFPV what was LQ at ? I didn't even look at my dB at the time
@@KonstantinFPV yea I have the 915. And at 10mw it seems to go as far as my crossfire at 25w
none of this is happening for me my LQ always blinks 0:0
You may be using a control protocol thst doesn't support lq. If you're using elrs make sure the rssi aux mode is disabled in receiver tab.
@@JoshuaBardwell yea I f'd up, I jumped on elrs discord. I had rssi on an aux channel. rssi acd was off, however the aux channel was on. once I disabled rssi on a channel , I got my rssi and my lq.. thanks.
Why isn't the baby at the end growing
My LQ is 0:0 help me why 🥴?
If you have set up an RSSI aux channel, it will override the LQ and RSSI dBm OSD parameters. Disable the RSSI Aux channel in the receiver tab.
I did just that ok I'll do just that. Thanks.
Was doing my nut.
First 😁👍
Congratulations