The Tragic Tale of Kings Dominion
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Kings dominion was one of the 5 paramount parks purchased by Cedar Fair and has arguably been treated the worst. They received heavy investments in the very beginning but slowley overtime have been forgotten aboutl. In this video I look at why to pieve together the tragic tale of Kings Dominion...
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Nice videro as always!
that caused me mega confusion lolz
god this made me go crazy
I was just about to flame you on that
Busch Gardens Tampa, well known Kings Dominion competitor
Yea I noticed that he said bgt instead of bgw
He said it so many times. I think he really doesn't know where Tampa is.
haha yeah I was just coming to comment about this
@@BoomerangVillage he definitely knows where Tampa is, he simply just meant bgw, cuz pantheon and invadr are both bgw coasters
It was said too many times to be a mistake. So obviously you’ve never been to Tampa Virginia!!!! LOL
Or maybe, just maybe, the designer of the concept art just drew some random coasters. It’s not that deep.
ikr like bruh, coastoons is acting like they need to hide everything and the coasters need to be the same as the real coasters in the park
You’re looking wayyyyyyyy too much into that KD graphic. It’s just an art piece that FunTV made for all the parks. They were told to add coasters to make it look more colorful 😁
“Increased attendance by a whopping 0%” still better than The Swarm, that reduced attendance.
Thorpe Park is one of the few places suffering a worse case of neglect at this point, as a Londoner it’s honestly pretty sad.
@@littlebendixon93 It’s got some great rides and is a hell of a lot easier to get to than Towers, but it is sad to see.
@Coaster Highlights! If im honest i dont see an rmc coming anytime soon. Maybe a Mini-hyper
@Coaster Highlights! If im honest i dont see an rmc coming anytime soon. Maybe a Mini-hyper
How can that be? I thought Wing coasters were pretty well received, at least in Heide Park and Toverland they were the rides with probably the most filled queue lines.
3:42 Ah RIP Backlot Stunt Coaster and Flight of Fear. Guess those doesnt exist anymore 😭
You're mixing up King's Island and King's Dominion
@@hlemke91 kd has both as well
@@hlemke91 kd has those rides as well
I just think it’s so dumb how they keep a ride such as Italian job or “backlot stunt coaster “ which was built for effects but yet they can’t keep them running... but kings island can because they are “ wayyyy better”
@@hlemke91 no he’s not, they both have both rides.
"it would be the only launch coaster in the park" flight of fear literally exists
So does backlot stunt coaster!
I always forget about FoF as a multilooper and launch at Kings Island because I only think about the outside ones that I can see 🤣
This guy clearly doesn’t know anything about KD.
@@thoosienick5178 Flight of Fear is the only ride that still feels like it launches faster every time for over twenty years. You can take a seat.
and backlot
"Come on down here KD, we all float down here!"-WoF, Valley Fair, Mich. Adv.
Wall of flesh
Surely Dorney Park should be included as well?
@@hmmyes7807 Man Dorney's so ass that even its bottom tier friends forgot about it huh
@@hmmyes7807 for sure, I just personally think Dorney is in a small grey area between KD and the dead tier parks. At least CF has a plan for Dorney's next coaster.
valley fair? nah
about that purple coaster and the "gci":
not everything means something bro, its just concept art. they'll have put the purple coaster in the back as filler.
Every year I’m faced with the tough decision of going to Kingsdomion or driving all the way down to Florida to go visit it’s direct competition
lol
@@Coastoons They're never gonna let you forget about it lol
You’re looking way too much into that artwork. It was generic and used at multiple parks around that time, so it was more meant to represent the kinds of rides CF was building, instead of any one specific park or ride lineup.
This is been my home park for years. I thought i305 would’ve changed it for the better when it first came out, I had no idea kings dominion would lose so much traction over the years! I remember when it used to be booming, and now with volcano gone, it just feel sad and a little bit neglected. The biggest thing that this is taught me, that it doesn’t matter how success or big a park, it can always fall apart. I do think they’re trying to build it back up, but I think they’re just taking their sweet time because of the huge debt they had to pay with i305. I don’t think all hope is lost yet, I just think they’re taking their time building new attractions so they don’t go in debt again.
does intimidator at carrowinds deserve that but not 305?
I'm a little worried to watch this, kd is like a home park to me and these videos always make me sad.
same lol
RUclips brought me this video years later to celebrate the B&M being announced and built for next season!
I remember going to KD my first time in 2010... Back when i305 was brand new. I went to both Williamsburg and KD, and in my head at the time, Williamsburg was the "Pretty but kinda boring park" and KD was the "Super world of Rollercoasters" (Granted I was 14 and new nothing about coasters).
But, Williamsburg only had 4 coasters at the time... Griffen, Alpengeist, Apollo, and Loch Ness, (since Big Bad Wolf had just closed). KD had i305, Volcano, Dominator, Flight of Fear, Backlot coaster, Shockwave, Multiple woodies, and Anaconda ... plus I might be missing one or two.
Oh how the roles have reversed 11 years later. I hope KD gets some more love in this next decade, but I am not sure if it would happen
Also bgt isn't competing with kings Dominion. Bgw is lol.
4:41 did he say Kevin durant
I love that park so much!!
I blacked out on I305 😂
Dominator was amazing
Twisted Timber’s is absolutely amazing.
I went a month or 2 ago and it was the best theme park experience I’ve ever had so far
People love Dominator, but Bizzaro looks so much better because of the scenery and theming, something that can bring a coaster 5 steps up for me
BGW Is my home park and I always rather travel a hour pass it to go kings dominion
@@ethanhcomposer I’ve also actually been on Bizzaro. I honestly like Bizzaro better
@@triplereeds Oh nice!
I totally agree.
As someone whose home parks are BGW and KD, I think the one major thing that will keep KD from ever being in the bottom tier with MG, WoF, Dorney, and Vallyfair is that it Isn't in the middle of no where. KD is close to Richmond and it will naturally have more people coming to the park than the ones in the bottom tier. I think Cedar Fair recognized this, and decided to go more conservative with KD. While we haven't gotten many major investments, Cedar Fair has taken really good care of KD. We got Twisted Timbers,They completely revamped the section where Twisted is, They've removed unpopular rides, We got Winterfest, and the Grand Carnival, We have track for an S&S free spin, Coconut Shores, and lots of general park improvements. I honestly doubt KD will become a priority park for Cedar Fair like KI or Carowinds, but Kings Dominion is no where near a lost cause.
You are right, Cedar Fair stated in their conference calls in 2019 that all their parks did well, so that includes KD. Did it do as well as the top 4 in the chain? No, but attendance was still up. They had a winter type event for KD, that takes time and money for Cedar Fair to work on, so they haven't forgot them at all, just a myth.
3:42 Flight of Fear and Backlot have entered the chat... But seriously great vid!
I would argue that Kings Dominion is actually well looked after. And this is coming from someone who has Carowinds as their home park. Cedar Fair puts a lot of effort into the overall atmosphere, from the landscaping, to the lighting package, to special events such as Grand Carnivale and WinterFest. They've been making investments in things that best cater to their overall clientele, which at the end of the day is not coaster enthusiasts, but rather, parents with children. I had the pleasure of visiting KD for the first time this year and was very impressed with the park overall. But then again, though I am a coaster enthusiast, when I rank parks I don't focus exclusively on rides but really on the overall experience, which is why I rank Dollywood over Cedar Point, despite Cedar Point having a better ride lineup.
Agreed, the park looked very nice and alive, they also have a better coaster lineup that carowinds anyway
Totally agree %100
Agreed, Kings Dominion actually has some decent theming and atmosphere something Carowinds lacks. Maybe that's why I like this park so much
Coming from someone who's home oark is kings dominion I would say that too I think though that cedar fair may be scared to invest because sometimes bgw can be unpredictable with what they Come out with, furthermore I've been to bother KD and BGW and BGW in my opinion was a close second. I will say I heard rumors of some RMC coaster replacing the volcano and what's good is that the oark has been getting a lot more guests as of recent. I also think that when the anaconda gets torn down there will likely be a some sort of extremely unique coaster because if you look at KD spending it almost looks like they're saving up for some thing either way I recommend KD if anyone wants to go there it's amazing and for a ride I'd recommend there I'd say that while the I 305 is better the flight of fear is often overlooked and is my personal favorite it's teeming is just amazing
I’d honestly say KD and SFGAD are actually like inter-chain sisters. So maybe cousins. They both have one mind blowing intense coaster, followed by one new rmc and a freespin added between a spot of barely any editions. They both have lots of potential for being close to lots of major metro areas and having some great headline coasters in front, but with KD removing more than they are adding, El Toros incident combined with minor accidents here and there, they both are going to need a little time before they become a wow. These + the Sea World Parks can hopefully twist their issues within the next 1-3 years or so and be true headline parks for these major metro areas. SFMM CP and KI are truly the biggest and baddest places right now, but I think CP is the only one to have a true headline top 10 class ride with SV, and that’s why we need these specific parks to rise with what’s sitting there.
SFGAD is almost at it’s peak potential, you act like they don’t have a pretty good hyper, 4 other solid b&ms and the tallest coaster in the world. Meanwhile Kings Dominion has 3 good coasters and the rest leave you with headaches
@@cheeseandmilk very true. It’s literally a tourist destination.
SFGRADV is one of six flag's spoiled rotten parks....KD is more comparable to SFA at the moment in terns of how both parks are neglected by their respective owners.
isn’t flight of fear a launch coaster? Maybe even backlot stunt coaster? idk i feel like KD already has a lot of launches.
2 operating. Has had 5 over time. If you'd gone in 2006, you could have rode 4 launch coasters in a single visit. Flight of Fear, Backlot Stunt Coaster, Volcano, Hypersonic XLC. (If they weren't broke down, part of the reason the last two aren't there anymore.)
King Cobra was a weight launched shuttle coaster, but that was moved in '86.
Saying kd will plummet and become a bottom tier park is a bit of a stretch. Their 1 2 punch is to good and they only need a good volcano replacement and maybe one more good investment after that to get back on top if you think about it.
Yea this park has tons of potential it just needs the right investments. I mean it has DC and Richmond near it to cities that are both growing
Kings Dominion and BGW have been my home parks my whole life, and I always liked BGW the same amount as KD, but now I’m really starting to like BGW a lot more, it’s sad to see KD go down like this 😔
I went to KD in 04. Very fun. Volcano was dope, hypersonic broke down, but i managed to get a ride, shockwave was a standup. So much potential.
Went here a few weeks ago and I absolutely love Kings Dominion. Legit my favorite park (granted I'm going back to Cedar Point in a month), I305 is my #1, Twisted Timbers is top 10, Dominator is the best floorless and I legitimately love Anaconda... I'm aware I'm in the minority there. Just absolutely stumped why Cedar Fair took out a bunch of rides and added nothing to replace it. Like let's not forget Avalanche has been SBNO all year
You probably already know but Avalanche has been rethemed to reptillian
@@ChristianTurnes Yeah, I rode the retheme already. It's pretty much exactly the same lol
"This inversion right here looks pretty similar to the one on Maxx Force"
Come on man, have you been to SFGAm? The Dog-tongue element is wonky and looks Nothing like that. That purple inversion is just a vertical loop 🤦🏻♂️
Good video, but I305 screwed this park. The attendance is wayyy too low to get any investment so their pretty much screwed like you said
But at least they ended up with the best coaster on the planet
@@MillenniumForceMan Agreed, at least one of the two best. I305 is the only thing that is close to SV IMO and TwiTim is the 2nd best RMC (above LRod) IMO. Getting Fury in a couple days and El Toro as soon as its reopened (canceled our trip once it went down). KD and CP have essentially the opposite same top 2. CP with the big RMC and small intense Intamin that punches way above its weight and KD with the big intense Intamin and smaller RMC that punches way above it weight. It's 1a and 1b top 2's for me.
I don’t see how Bush Gardens being in direct competition with Kings Dominion means that they can’t get hypers or any of those other coasters. Like if they’re competition, you should be trying to one up them constantly. Not sit back and let them build a bunch of cool stuff and do nothing about it.
The green coaster was the shockwave, it was a stand-up coaster that was removed shortly after the art was made, the drop tower has the wrong design. As for the other coasters you have a point on. I will say I do still love kings dominion, besides the change of the rebel yell name and the removal of the volcano and tornado I think it’s a great park, I really hope they make a fantastic successor to the volcano but it’s a shame they removed it
I will say kings dominion does typically have the upper hand to BGW, it’s sad that they removed the volcano though, it’s something that probably really hurt KD. As long as they don’t remove the best ride Intimidator then they’ll be okay.
As for the 0%, I would disagree with that, I went weekly on a weekday the season that twisted timber’s release and every single day the line went beyond the que.
Same here I really want to go to Kings Dominion for some reason, I305 and Twisted Timber’s are in my Top 5 Bucketlist coasters
@REMEDY haven’t riden any of those but I-305 is not like millienium and twisted timber’s is nothing like steve
@REMEDY All of the layouts on those four coasters are vastly different....
@REMEDY If you are saying this you haven't ridden either of them. I305 is nothing like Millennium Force
Universal and Disney aren't actually that much in competition with each other. Both their annual attendance vastly outstrips the population of the Orlando area, meaning that most visitors are tourist. And if people are willing to pay for a vacation in Orlando to visit one of the parks, they quite often throw the other in as well, because why not?
And I think that with that competition with BGW, KD would be an excellent choice for the first new generation Vekoma. Just imagine if they answered Pantheon with something like Abyssus.
On top of that, Universal and Disney are focused on different demographics. Disney is primarily a family-focused park, with lots of low-intensity rides and an immersive experience, while Universal is more of a conventional amusement park, albeit heavily themed, with a lot of big thrill rides.
“[A coaster like Maxx Force] would be the only launch coaster in the park.”
What happened to Flight of Fear and Back Lot Stunt Coaster?
I enjoy going to kings dominion, its always so neat and beautiful everytime I go. I went to six flags great adventure in New Jersey and man altho I had a lot of fun I enjoy KD a lot more.
Flight of fear and backlot stunt coaster watching this: 👀🤔👀
0:59 maybe the wooden coaster should be grizzly, the yellow ride should be dominator, the green one could potentially be shockwave before it went defunct, and the purple one could then be part of anaconda. I’m not too keen about the hyper coaster, but ill investigate more into this concept art.
Wait they got rid of Volcano????
God that ride was so fun.
I-305 is fun too but the last time I went to KD was in 2016 so I had no idea. Man that sucks!
yeah they got rid of it like 2 years ago and didn't really make a big deal out of it
I think that Kings Dominion has more potential than Canada‘s Wonderland because it land and they don’t need to clean it up as much as Canada‘s Wonderland needs to be. Also Mystic Timbers was definitely made for Kings island it fits the terrain perfectly but I’d way rather have Kings dominion be a top-tier than Canada’s Wonderland
I commented something similar on another video about KD, but it's really pretty common for Cedar Fair parks to have 2-4 really amazing coasters, and a bunch of decent/okay/bad supporting coasters. This is definitely the case with Carrowinds, Canada's Wonderland, CGA, and even arguably Knott's (although that one's kind of got a different vibe). I don't think Cedar Fair considers KD to be a failure, they're probably not adding a ton of rides to it because they don't think it desperately needs new rides right now. In fact it almost seems like they were catching Carowinds up to KD.
Also despite what enthusiasts seem to believe, I don't think BGW necessarily blows KD out of the water in most people's eyes. I recently went to both parks for the first time with a group of (mostly GP) friends and almost all of them preferred KD's rides.
Intimidator 305 is soooooo intense
I like Kings Dominion more than Carowinds, it has better atmosphere and is prettier
I totally agree. KD is much more of a mature park IMO. KD has well shaded sections, and an actual atmosphere (like you said).
Also they have the Joe Cool Driving School which is like the best kiddie ride ever
I have a season pass at Kings Dominion this year for the first time in over a decade and I'm loving perhaps especially because lines are 5-10 mins at the most. It's always pretty busy, but not 1-2 hour lines like when I grew up at KD busy.
When I’m in VA, it’s always BGW over Kings Dominion, but I still respect the park and I-305 and twisted timbers which I haven’t rode yet
1:38 I wish BGT had a B&M hyper.
Thankfully we have Mako! 😄
y’all could have a b&m giga instead tbh
Man is loading up on caffeine, he’s talking like a machine gun
The biggest element is competition. KD is so close to BGW and SFA. While the DC metro is a big area, it's fairly saturated with parks. Charlotte, one of the faster growing US cities, has little competition so it makes sense to spend the dollars there. They only have so much of a budget to work with each year as a chain.
I remember you from when you were at like 3k subs, I know it's a little late but congrats on 10k my dude!
No idea what this guy is talking about but I still found the video really interesting. Keep up the good work bro:)
I think that green coaster was supposed to represent ShockWave when it was at the park.
I noticed a few things that are wrong, first off the gci coaster in the concept art doesn't exist anymore, it was called "Hurler" it was closed to make way for twisted timbers in 2015, second the green and blue "b&m" track was "Shock Wave" a standing ride made by TOGO that was relocated in 2015 to make room for delirium, and third, the purple track in the back of the picture was a ride called "King Kobra" the was relocated in 1986.
I really don't think KD is gonna be a "Dead Park". All the other parks you listed have the problems of a limited market to cater to and/or are competing with major parks like Cedar Point, Six Flags Great Adventure, or even Hersheypark.
KD certainly has the market and it also has major attractions to make it stand out from its regional competition in Busch Gardens WILLIAMSBURG. It just needs that extra push from Cedar Fair.
"I know Apollo's Chariot is just down the way, but do I care?" (Jeopardy music) "No" - Airtime Thrills 2021
this guy is the single most entitled coaster enthusiast on the planet
thx
Just found your channel out and It's awesome I love the humor and the simple but great quality of the videos keep it up!
Kings dominion was my home park growing up, this is just sad especially when seeing the potential it had
KD is my home park but I prefer BGW so much more that I usually drive the extra hour to it. I305 is the best coaster at either park tho imo
Not me working at a park that you called “bottom tier, the dead parks”
Come to Busch Gardens Tampa in Williamsburg VA
You know you’re in some tough shit if they’re more concerned about replacing one of KI’s *supporting* coasters faster than your main coaster
Pantheon hurry up and open😔
3:05 i think that is an RMC because it just looks like iron gwazi but thats me best guess
I really wished all of that happened, but instead we got passed up and got turned into a meh park. *I’m crying rn since KD is my home park*
U should be happy u have the best coaster in the world and another world class coaster at ur home park, all my home park has is a prototype intamin hyper
I wouldn't say it's a meh park, it has a very nice atmosphere and three amazing coasters (I305, Twisted Timbers, Dominator). Want to see a meh park? Drive up to Maryland and see SFA
Kevin Durant moment made me yell HA. Needed that thank you loooooooooooooooooooooooool.
This is probably your most interesting video topic yet.
I’m telling you you are working the algorithm so we’ll when you put your music in your description. I swear it was the only reason it came into my feed. Started out with the shortening waiting in lines video and now I’ve been hooked lol.
I've got bad news for you: the freespin is the Volcano replacement. The GP still see them as something amazing, like nothing they've ever seen
Actually, the free spin is replacing the Crypt
@@gamr5055 Was that comfirmed by the park, or is that just what makes the most sense looking at the linup from the enthusiast perspective? Because the business perspective is very different whether we like it or not.
@@urbex_coasters no but why would they remove the crypt if it was the volcano replacement there’s to much space back there it doesn’t make logical sense.
@@urbex_coasters The boxes that are teasing the ride are where the Crypt was, and they reference Tomb Raider the ride.
@@jad3760 Because parts for The Crypt are hard to acquire these days. The freespin was planned before The Crypt was removed. My theory is Cedar Fair was offered one for basically free with planning either an axis or Ejinika clone for Cedar Point, when Kings Dominion needed an emergency coaster they got the freespin.
Didn't realize how little I knew about this stuff, a lot of that just flew right over my head haha
Most underrated RUclipsr out there I be watching your videos to fall asleep every night keep it up bro
That’s not in a bad way btw they don’t like put me to sleep 😅
I grew up going to Kings Dominion. Back then you went in fully aware there was a good chance of not coming out alive. Nearly every ride was super sketchy. Anyone remember riding Rebel Yell? Backwards on a fucking wooden coaster.
I'm a Busch gardens fan by heart to me comparing the two is impossible. Although KD has more rides, Busch gardens is attention to detail, entertainers, scenery, and rides are much more interesting than KD, even if they aren't the most thrilling compared to cedar and six flags parks, it feels like they care more about the experiences in their Park than just the rides
I’ve been on every ride at KD except Twisted Timbers and I can’t convince drive all the way down there to ride intimidator x5 and Twisted Timbers. Especially when i have never been to Hershey park and its the same distance away as KD.
I'm always so glad whenever Coastoons uploads, his videos always are awesome!
I went to KD a lot as a kid and honestly once they got rid of volcano i never really had the desire to go back. It was the only kind of coaster i couldnt really get at Carowinds
Kings Dominion will not be falling into the lowest tier anytime soon. Unlike the smallest parks (Michigan's Adventure, Valleyfair, Worlds of Fun, Dorney), the park does get good investments, however they come a lot less frequently than the largest parks.
This man don’t miss, he’s got dreamville in the background ground 😫
You mean BGW right?
KD is one of Cedar Fair's crown jewels my man. It's literally an hour away from 6 of the 10 richest counties in the U.S. and literally sits in the Richmond-DC-Baltimore megalopolis.
you have one of the most consistent upload schedule of any youtuber, period
It makes sense why u want to go to KD they have the best coaster itw
Kings dominion had its first death in 1983 on the galaxi coaster of all roller coasters
I went in with high expectations for twisted timber’s but kinda got disappointed
Why? You must hate airtime then, because TT is loaded with it
Well it was my first rmc and everyone was hyping it up and the over bank was just there but the airtime was great
When my mom lived in Virginia before she had children, she went to Kings Dominion to visit her cousin that worked there. Suddenly, one time, she heard a really loud thump. Someone committed suicide by jumping off a replica of a building ☹️🙏.
Wow this video got recommended while I’m on my way to work there
That purple coaster looked like old Vekoma or Arrow track 🤌🏽
The most tragic thing about KD is I never managed to get on Volcano :'(
Even though KD has more coasters, BGW is the better park in my opinion, because the coasters and rides there are all really nice and it has great scenery
Love the video. Keep up the great work. My note is that you talked about this concept art a ton but didn't make it clear where it was from or why it was significant other that something about cedar fair buying the park. Also would like a wish list/speculation for new standout addition. Like please cedar fair give us a gravity group shuttle, won't break the budget but will keep this park feeling fresh and not be a filler coaster. Thanks for the video I like the 0% is not fact bit video blur thing
Cedar Fair released concept art for all their parks a while ago and this was kd's
This the park I have gone to the most
Kings island is better in every way lol
Fax
I love kings dominion
I believe the green coaster is meant to be shockwave, I may be wrong, but they colored it that exact color in its later years.
You mean BGW not BGT
They have 2 launch coasters at kings dominion
I only ride every parks 1-2 punch so KD is easily in my top 5
I feel like the green one might have been shockwave but it also has b & m track
The purple coaster's large inversion looks sort of like the loop and top hat combo on Full Throttle, so it could be a Premier Sky Rocket III.
Maybe instead of a standard B&M hyper coaster, what about they add a B&M hyper wing coaster (Examples of wing coasters: Wild Eagle, Gatekeeper)
The little info you know is crazy but I got you. The wood one is the grizzly it’s an og, the green one was the shock wake it was taken out, the yellow and blue one is dominator, there are 2 launch coasters black out stunt coaster which isn’t as extreme and the other is an indoor si-fi themed launch coaster (a personal favorite) the purple coaster is truly unknown but this is an older photo where twisted Timbers was not built yet and a few rides have been taken out.
KD is still at least as good as Carowinds. Caro needed more to be a decent park (I first went just before Afterburn -- Hurler was the best ride).
Volcano closing was bad luck, even though they had to have known its time was coming.
BG(T)W's coaster lineup isn't, in my analysis, quite as a good as KD's, even though it's a better park. Maybe if Pantheon is better than Timbers or they build another Intamin before KD replaces Volcano.
I wouldn't call that "concept art" or read much into it.
BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT BGT
The amount of times you said it in this video, you can't go with a comment correcting it. Might as well re-record yourself and re-upload.