Yeah, you get better crowds when watching smaller bands / artists cause it's more likely people are actually there to enjoy the music. Plus it's cheaper !
Very true going to small venues for a non mainstream bands has the best experience while concerts in big venues with top artists are a huge smartphone disappointment.
Also the interaction/engagement of the crowd by the band is way better because you're able to make some eye contact from pretty much anywhere in the crowd. Since it's closer proximity to basically everything and everyone around you in the smaller venues, it's a much friendlier vibe overall. Finding that rare, ever shifting sweet spot at big shows, right by the pit, where everybody just knows that unless they have a vice grip, recording there is gonna get their phones knocked out of their hand is ideal, because even if the stage is kind of far or just hard to see, at least you're around the people that are truly there to rock out 🤘
2 years ago I went to see Deftones when they could finally come to my country's part of the world. I rarely went to big crowd shows and got pretty much used to the small venue experience so I could barely switch off in that huge ass crowd, despite not having any problem with huge masses of people usually. I realised right there, that smaller venues and smaller audiences were my shit. I see everything better, I have space to move, I get more involved with the band or artist I'm seeing, and from tickets to drinks and all, it's soooo much cheaper. (Ps. since I'm a drummer and I love my instrument like mad, I could at least take home a few things from Abe Cunningham's playing style, that I've long implemented and expanded upon in my playing, which is sick)
10000 poser punks Green day lost all direction after dookie 😢 they started writing for money which is understandable I wish they do another real punk album
no pauses, no transitions, fast paced images, monotous voice, constant informations being poured into ur brain for more than 10 minutes without a chance to process anything.... thats the coolea experience
The topics are a little bit interesting, I just can't watch the video. Tried just listening, but his monotone voice just becomes like gibberish after a while, plus unnesecary sound effects. Not for me.
We softened the word narcissist so much that now we have to create terms like "main character syndrome" to describe it as if we didn't already have a word for it. Now narcissist means ex-boyfriend.
I literally bought tickets to Madison square garden to see ghost to see the main character, ghost. Yes in group we are motley group and yes we all wish to be circed but we aren't the main character, papa is.
Disrespecting opening acts has unfortunately always been a thing among the fundamenetally incurious concert-goers. I'll always remember the story of Tool fans booing the Melvins off stage, not realizing that the Melvins were highly influential to Tool.
@@mikehunt5926because Henry Rollins is a joke and cringe old man still trying to play tough guy. His stand up is horrible, he makes Joe Rogan look funny
the hardcore in metal shows in germany dont really have those problems, but the last time i saw some on doing karate moves in the pit, they were punched in the liver by some 50yo
@@hendider876.4 No one, power metal fans are exclusively men in their 40s who work in IT. The worst thing they'll do is scream in your ear when singing the songs.
You get a lot of weirdos as well, I went to a stp show in January and by the second song a man got kicked out by the security for inappropriately touching girls. Like bro paid for a slaughter ticket and went there just to touch women
You have no idea how rampant underage diddling is with those hardcore shows. Especially in the 2000s when it was all scene and stuff. Many bands from that time have been accessed of such terrible shit and seeing 13 or 14year old girls with full on adults was so regular people didn't even blink an eye
I went to see Cannibal Corpse/Mayhem in Spokane last year and I had some dude who reeked of alcohol kept hovering around me and doing this weird thing where he'd just say "Bathory" (I was wearing a Bathory shirt) and then kinda patted my chest several times. Eventually he cut that shit out and started showing me pictures of his newborn daughter. I feel bad for his daughter to be honest. I had just turned 18 and I'm very short/small, long wavy hair and clean shaven so he probably thought I was a girl .... or he's gay. If I was a girl he would've been touching my tits. My heart goes out to women who have to deal with that shit regularly
nah that's just the Misfits, I saw New Model Army a couple years ago and got battered in a pit of old, overweight, bald, shirtless men who've clearly been at it for years. but UK punks are just like that
I saw the Misfits in Dallas 2 years ago and saw the biggest mosh pit I've ever seen. Got a chair thrown at me, one hit my wife and then someone threw their friend right into our backs. The energy is still there, I think it just depends on the place. I've seen stuff still in Kansas City and Dallas but places like St. Louis and Oklahoma (Tulsa and OKC) are pretty dead pit wise. But this is just from my experience having seen like 150 bands in the past 3 years
@eliasmsv3156 from the videos I've seen it's actually gotten better in that regard, there are exceptions going both ways depending on the regional scene and whatnot. Usually the old heads seem a bit meaner about it in my experience.
Anyone who goes to a hardcore show knows that there will be blood, and there are certain strategies for staying relatively safe. Basically, if you don't want the smoke, stay out of the fire (mosh area); some bands foster violence more than others; some venues have no security, others have thugs for security. I've seen a guy wear a bike helmet. Overall, if you go looking for an actual fight, you will catch hands and feet. I've gotten my share of falls and bloody noses, so I'm good just sitting it out.
i always record one or two 30 second videos per artist/band then i put my phone away and have fun also smaller hardcore/punk/metal shows are where its at
@@StealthHalberd01 acting like a 30 second video out of an hour long event is rlly that bad ... especially when half the ppl there will have their phones out the whole time
@@SLOGTV666 you're lying. hardcore scene sucks ass. music is all poser normie shit. most of you either neckbeards or models. violence always ruins shows. rich kids from miami can suck my azz. there's nothing cool here, and nobody doing shit. weirdo misfits from fort lauderdale too. same old bullshit, but it's all still fake. All the bands are just the same guy. Am I punk yet? No! And the violence, it's the danger effect, and we all know how that plays out. We can do that or we can just skip it. or the people who come here from bum fuck nowhere to be in the center of a small ass punk scene that's gross as fuck already for people who wanna just have a good time. And then gatekeep it! Stop being a puss y! Grow up. Fuck your toughcore band too. I literally don't give a shit. Here's the attention you crave lol. The only time people in boring old florida are punks is when they wanna party. Punk is a waste of time already, don't need a bunch of losers making it suck worse. It's like walking into a room full of angry 30 year olds sharing a bag of sugar, and now that I'm that age I don't get it why those kids are so pissed off. Fuck o ff thennn. And don't get me started on the emo and weeb shit, what a bunch of lames. I feel genuinely sorry for anyone trying to hang around the general "scene" because they're gonna get chewed up and spit out like a whore. And maybe they are. To sum it up. Florida sucks. Your band sucks. Punk music sucks, literally the worst excuse to drink in public yet. I can't believe people fall for shit like this, "trust me bro I'm in a band."
Gojira is performing next year in bulgaria for the first time, it will be my first metal concert. If i am brought to a phone pit instead of a moshpit im gonna genuinely start tweaking, who pays a 110 pounds to hold up phone.
Only reason I'd ever hold up my phone at a concert was to record some memories I can look back on, rather than paying out 50 bucks for a shirt (that I would love, but, money's tight)
I remember a Timberlake getting pelted with bottles at some concert in Toronto because he was really anachronistic to the lineup where the stones and AC/DC played, guy is a huge class act he just joked it off and did one of the best renditions of Miss You I've ever heard
Ghost has attracted a huge amount of teens in recent years and seems to try to fight the "main character syndrome" via a ban of phones on the upcoming 2025 tour.
i went to aristocrats show last year and there were ppl still trying to record even tho guthrie requested them to not to. there was a guy in front of me who didnt even know who was guthrie govan but still started recording the moment they kindly asked not to. i dont get the point...
As someone who went to ONE concert, i didnt even want my phone, like it was harder to enjoy while holding a phone, and tbh i have no regrets!! (About going to the concert)
"No phone in sight, just people enjoying the moment" is a meme, but people should actually attempt that. Nobody is going to watch your shaky video with deep fried sound anyways.
tbh i never really saw the point of recording shows when everyone next to you is doing that anyway and the quality is gonna be ass. whenever i feel the need to record a memory i end up never looking at it again.
@humanhumanson-jr8sk me too xD I usually end up deleted my whole camera roll on my phone anyways and if you can't remember going to such a fun experience then I will assume your attention spam is very short! And theres always going to be ONE person to record it
Long comment ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️ So I went to go see Meshuggah a couple of years ago after work last June and much like every other metal gig, everyone was wearing a black t-shirt with a metal band on it, I had come from work so I wasn't wearing one, I had a bright yellow t-shirt with the word Cheddar printed on it A grown ass man of about 40 tapped me on the shoulder and said to me and my friend "what are YOU guys doing here, you don't belong here, you don't really listen to Meshuggah!" "Eh, yeah I do man that's why I bought a ticket" - I replied "You're hear with your yellow t-shirt, you don't even have a metal band shirt you don't belong here" "Cheddar are my favourite band man I've seen them 5 times" i tried joking "Okay well if you're such a big fan name three of their songs" *So I named 5* "Wow, all their biggest hits...." Then I was getting fed up so I said "well thanks for confirming that I am in fact cool enough to stand in front of you" His wife was laughing at HIM at this stage Then he started to get a bit apologetic and said "well yknow, the real reason I'm annoyed is cus you're standing in front of all of us and we can't see!" So I replied "man, you are about 6ft 3, I'm like 5ft 7, do you not think YOU are in more peoples' way than me????" Then there was a very very long pause, I'm talking about 10 seconds, to which he finally said "eh, yknow that's actually a very good point you're after making" Then his wife said "don't mind him he's been in a bad mood all day" and turned to him and called him a dickhead. I wouldn't mind after their first song I turned to my friend still within earshot of your man and said "HERE COMES RATIONAL FUCKING GAZE " because I had seen their setlist. And that was the last he saw of me , as I jumped into the pit, so I definitely proved him wrong But yeah massively cringe story with an actual real life grown ass man gatekeeper. so yes Meshuggah fans can suck
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One of the clear take away is that people who are buying tickets for these events are literally there for a single artist, most of whom probably never listened past said artist's hits from billboard's top 100. The issue isn't just concerts but any public event you'll be seeing those who are just there for themselves and not a part of some sort experience. The best thing to do is shame those who aren't showing proper etiquette, make sure that their actions have consequences. There's also an argument of being entitled to a good show since ticketmaster has a monopoly over concerts. With most tickets being over priced for even mid level performers.
Bad mischaracterization of astro world. That was the venue and performers fault, not the concert goers. Also, you keep showing footage of the kid in green boxers getting bottle thrown at him. That kid wasn't a performer and he had started fights with others in the crowd.
Literally, the security was almost helpless against that insane crowd. Yes the job is to protect the concert goers ,ensure the safety & so on. But, that crowd was in the heat wanting to see a performance in a dense city. If it were in a different venue in a less crowded area than we wouldn’t have to talk about it this way in present day, nor have to see Travis Scott’s “apology”
What is the point of recording a show on your phone anyways it's like those old bootleg tapes that were recorded on some crappy Sony Walkman from a guy that was in the bleachers.
@@kenon6968 I usually record the first couple minutes then enjoy the rest of the show. It’s cool to look back at the recordings cuz it helps me remember it better.
@@AlanGarcia-sp3bx a lot of my favourite bands are from the cassette era and I'm infinitely thankful that some nerd went out and recorded these shows because a lot of these bands maybe put out a a few singles or an EP and then disappeared. In this day and age and especially how record sales have really collapses of revenue source there's no excuse for bands not too at least release soundboard recordings of every one of their live shows and said it free revenue really, hell if they want to get really spicy they can take cell phone footage recorded from their girlfriends in the audience splice in the audio and there you go you have concert footage for every show, seems like practically free revenue
@@druidsandhorses3971 you know what, I completely forgot about that. She passed us by I want to say before Russian Circles? Everyone around me was so shocked by it no one had time to essentially tell her to fuck off. It was totally out of left field at a place like that 🤣
@@druidsandhorses3971 I dunno why my comment got removed but yes you're right! We saw her before Russian Circles. Everyone around us was visibly confused by it haha!
I remember my freshman year of college I managed to find myself a ticket to The Garden, after moving 200 miles across the country and at the show before the one I went to there was someone near the barricade who p*ssed in the crowd because they didn’t wanna go to the bathroom. I swear Ive never had a normal concert experience without any kind of strange chaos.
When I was a kid going to hardcore shows we had an unspoken rule, a kind of "mosh etiquette". Limbs were flying, but no one was getting hit, I'm talking 10 man windmills and donkey kicks and we all knew what was up, these days you look at show footage and its like 3 or 4 dudes trying to hurt people while everyone else ignores the band trying not to get hit, and back then if you took your phone in the building you were gonna lose it.
I saw a dude in a wheelchair in the mosh at a Tomb of Doom concert get accidentally hit and the guy who hit him was picked up by the crowd and thrown out of the building. The current culture is putrid, you should all be ashamed. You never even see synchronized 2-step anymore
Live how new bands coming out this decade dont have thia issue because of the fact that they dont have many people. And the people generally want to hear them play
This was very depressing yet cathartic to hear. Luckily in the UK metal scene I haven't seen toooooo much of this yet, but I've seen PLENTY of documented examples. People really do believe it's all for their benefit
I went to boilerroom and the crowd was like dead, the barley danced. Instead it felt like everyone was there just because it was "boilerroom" not to dance or have fun but more like a status thing. It sucked never going again.
I feel you. I can't tell if I just have high standards or what but to me it seems like a few crowds I've been a part of at concerts don't even try to enjoy the music they literally just stand there and these are supposed to be fans of the headliner and I'm like " Why aren't you guys at least tapping your feet or something?" Concert culture is dead.
One time I saw Steve Aoki and he had the nerve to throw an entire cake right in my frigging face. Makes me think the artists are the problem, not the crowd
This must be a hip hop/rap thing more. I find the opposite to be true in metal/punk concerts, which used to be bad for support acts back in the day (early 2000s; audience not knowing the support act or unappreciative that the support act isn’t from the same sub-catergory as the main act) now I find metal show audiences are more open-minded. A goth rock/metal band can open up for a death metal band and the audience are cool with it , unlike back in the day where it likely would be hostile for the opening act of a different sub-genre. Seems mainstream rap is behind in this aspect, but its still weird since yung lean is from the same cloth as scotty trivias
Turnstile concerts look extremely fun. Hardly anyone is on their phone, and the energy in the room is insane, and their fans absolutely love them and vice versa.
this is why i love death metal concerts as there the most chill mfs I've seen. i mean yea its metal so there gonna be things like mosh pits but that's all in good fun, but the moment someone acts a fool towards the band/audience then they gonna find out
There is a reason i unfortunately avoid concerts from bands i like, i rather listen to their songs at home, and without having a 100000 lumens light being directed straight into my face, concerts are unfortunately the worst way to experience a band these days, specially when the people attending these concerts are preps trying to act "punk" or "radical".
Liszt also angled his piano so that those in attendance could see his hands as he played whereas before the pianist would have the piano arranged so that it created a barrier between the performer and the attendees
Dude, this channel is so good. The analysis is great ofc, but what really sets it apart is the boots-on-the-ground POV of someone that's viewing these shifts in the zeitgeist from the inside, as they're happening, rather than through a screen. Keep it up. Great stuff.
I remember I was in a small indoor venue to see Mac Sabbath, a Black Sabbath parody band, and during "Paranoid" there was a mosh pit. The only security bouncer at the venue tried to stop it in vain, so it continued on for 5 minutes. Then the singer dressed as Ronald McDonald went crowd surfing and it went well. Best $25 I've ever spent!
I just saw the band Julie which is a newer shoegaze/noisepop band. The pit had subway surfer players, filming on a DS, mosh pit with 10+ people filming and chanting whether a song was being played or not. Youth culture is cooked.
I dont blame lockdowd. I blame vapid internet and meme culture for making people progressively dumber and more entitled by the year. As someone who attended their first concer in 1989 and played gigs as an active musician for 25 years, a lot of this behavior can be traced back as early as the late 2000s, and its just getting worse. I punched out some idiot 3 years ago at a park show I was playing because he thought it would be funny to throw firecrackers at the bands.
Basically, realize that other humans exist and aren't just side characters and you're good. We need more people in crowds who put these main character types in their places for real.
Yeh nah I kinda don't blame Ghost for announcing a No Phone policy for their shows now 🤔 Legit witnessed TikTok troglodytes a couple years ago during a Born of Osiris gig, entering the crowd midset just to record themselves for half a song and then leave.
If America is still here in July I'll be in NYC watching them and I love the idea of no phones. I go to a show for the show, for the music, for the artist. It doesn't make sense to me to spend the kind of money it takes to go to a show to just not be there fully.
Even movie theaters have an uptick in selfishness. Before covid, it was getting bad, but now? So many people talking during the movie, playing on phones, getting up and down. Never seen it so much in my life.
These people have always existed (see Axl Rose and Nikki Six going insane, throwing junk at Linkin Park during the One More Light era, or the many people using laser pointers at Paul Standly) but it has ramped up a lot (partly due to Ronnie Ranke being the modern day Axl Rose)
Im so lucky when it comes to seeing great shows and good crowds. Everything really has changed, even concert crowds, the one place we all let our gaurd down and agree on things. Tough crowd 😅
I've noticed this particularly with rap shows. Post pandemic I've noticed the trend in newer shows especially smaller scale where the rapper doesn't have experience or a concept of stage performance or charisma, the mix is bad and it's probably just the songs playing from a phone off the soundcloud page, and the audience doesn't really care about any of this. They're not concerned with what the actual experience is. It's like the point of them being there is to get videos of them being there to post online but otherwise they don't really know what to do or how to act. It's really jarring to witness for someone who's seen plenty of great shows of many genres and styles.
The consequences of radical individualism has led many to forget that they live in a society, an attempting to live out of it often leads to the harm of others
Your whole take on the influx of newbies to concerts is 100% on the money. I went to a Yeat concert this year and I overheard from the crowd attendees that this is their first concert. I told a few people that surrounded me to respect the moshpits. And of course the moment it was time for a moshpit these people went in. Only for a few minutes later seeing the same people desperately trying to get out of the moshpit crying. Rookie mistake.
I don't know about other countries in Europe or America,but here in Greece we respect the artists we watch on the concert,maybe its because we wait 10 years to see then again if they coma again,but still, I've never seen any artist complaining about getting hit by something in Greece,the only thing they complain is that the temperature is 39°
And for some reason only korn didn't complain about the heat,but I could say that Jonathan didn't like our weather because he took off his purple jacket and stayed with a black shirt but the first minute
About 10 or so years ago, I saw HORSE the band. Some dude in a hotdog costume thought he was there as part of the performance, too. Kept stage diving, moshing with people who weren't moshing, being a general nuisance. Finally, the band's keyboardist, Erik Engstrom (who was down to his underwear by this point in the show. IYKYK) grabbed this dude and threw him off the front of the stage where 2 security guys kicked his ass and threw him out. Everyone was thrilled.
unironically really enjoy how you try to contextualize stuff with previous historic evidence. showing that this stuff isn't new and is "normal" human behavior
The only good aspect of this is when they hold up their phones and play fnaf or family guy while we’re waiting for someone to come out and play music bc it entertains me every time
I think the worst examples of this comes from people that want to be part of concert culture but dont really care for the performance. They ruin the experience for others by not paying any atention to the performance and are generally just busy showing their social media folllowing that they are at a concert
Yeah, you get better crowds when watching smaller bands / artists cause it's more likely people are actually there to enjoy the music. Plus it's cheaper !
Very true going to small venues for a non mainstream bands has the best experience while concerts in big venues with top artists are a huge smartphone disappointment.
Colodelcartucho real af
Also the interaction/engagement of the crowd by the band is way better because you're able to make some eye contact from pretty much anywhere in the crowd. Since it's closer proximity to basically everything and everyone around you in the smaller venues, it's a much friendlier vibe overall.
Finding that rare, ever shifting sweet spot at big shows, right by the pit, where everybody just knows that unless they have a vice grip, recording there is gonna get their phones knocked out of their hand is ideal, because even if the stage is kind of far or just hard to see, at least you're around the people that are truly there to rock out 🤘
2 years ago I went to see Deftones when they could finally come to my country's part of the world. I rarely went to big crowd shows and got pretty much used to the small venue experience so I could barely switch off in that huge ass crowd, despite not having any problem with huge masses of people usually. I realised right there, that smaller venues and smaller audiences were my shit. I see everything better, I have space to move, I get more involved with the band or artist I'm seeing, and from tickets to drinks and all, it's soooo much cheaper.
(Ps. since I'm a drummer and I love my instrument like mad, I could at least take home a few things from Abe Cunningham's playing style, that I've long implemented and expanded upon in my playing, which is sick)
These crowds are also really friendly. Immaculate vibes all around
Green day concerts are an unholly mix of new emo kids and middle aged men
@@fvvaaani and 400 pounders
What about middle aged kids and new emo men
Your issue lies in enjoying Green Day
10000 poser punks Green day lost all direction after dookie 😢 they started writing for money which is understandable I wish they do another real punk album
Oh I figured it was gonna be full of normies lmao
no pauses, no transitions, fast paced images, monotous voice, constant informations being poured into ur brain for more than 10 minutes without a chance to process anything....
thats the coolea experience
now that i think about it, its basically sludge content. high impact low purpose subwaysurfer type shit over what could otherwise be a podcast.
The topics are a little bit interesting, I just can't watch the video. Tried just listening, but his monotone voice just becomes like gibberish after a while, plus unnesecary sound effects. Not for me.
@@oscarlove4394 it had to be said
Brainrot for zoomers in denial.
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We softened the word narcissist so much that now we have to create terms like "main character syndrome" to describe it as if we didn't already have a word for it. Now narcissist means ex-boyfriend.
“Narcissism is when you don’t want to be my friend anymore” - someone on twitter probably
I would say it's mostly the same thing apart from "Main character syndrome" being affixed to the social media induced version of it.
“Black on white bereavement” means “The Biggest Oxymoron in the last two thousand years.” To some folx
By we, do you mean pick me girl millennials?
Jeez guys go outside this is not a real life problem
You'd think of all things, ever, a CONCERT would be the single event where you realize you're not the main character of the moment.
I literally bought tickets to Madison square garden to see ghost to see the main character, ghost. Yes in group we are motley group and yes we all wish to be circed but we aren't the main character, papa is.
@@nola281are y’all good?
Disrespecting opening acts has unfortunately always been a thing among the fundamenetally incurious concert-goers. I'll always remember the story of Tool fans booing the Melvins off stage, not realizing that the Melvins were highly influential to Tool.
Black Flag got shit thrown at them for their entire set when opening for The Germs.
@@lostinthemassesblack flag gets shit thrown at them when they’re the main act
what do you expect from tool fans, they don't leave their basements often
@@mikehunt5926because Henry Rollins is a joke and cringe old man still trying to play tough guy. His stand up is horrible, he makes Joe Rogan look funny
@@Your_friendly_racist_neighbor henry isn’t in black flag anymore
the hardcore in metal shows in germany dont really have those problems, but the last time i saw some on doing karate moves in the pit, they were punched in the liver by some 50yo
I see a lot of spinkicks in german concerts, but I specifically go to hardcore concerts. Like who tf starts "Ninja Dancing" at a Power Metal gig
@@hendider876.4 No one, power metal fans are exclusively men in their 40s who work in IT. The worst thing they'll do is scream in your ear when singing the songs.
In the USA, the police would arrest that 50 year old.
it's an American problem
@@BLCKPPRMN , it's not just an American problem. LOL
The lack of moshing/pits is honestly depressing to me
_anyway... and then I started blasting_ KEKL
This is why I love the oklahoma scene, Moshpits are basically garunteed at most metal/HxCx shows
they arent dead. my small town hosts local punk shows constantly the pit is alive and well.
@ I’ve been to multiple big stadium shows/ amphitheaters and local and in my area it’s pretty much dead 💀
Thank God pits are stupid
You get a lot of weirdos as well, I went to a stp show in January and by the second song a man got kicked out by the security for inappropriately touching girls. Like bro paid for a slaughter ticket and went there just to touch women
You have no idea how rampant underage diddling is with those hardcore shows. Especially in the 2000s when it was all scene and stuff. Many bands from that time have been accessed of such terrible shit and seeing 13 or 14year old girls with full on adults was so regular people didn't even blink an eye
I went to see Cannibal Corpse/Mayhem in Spokane last year and I had some dude who reeked of alcohol kept hovering around me and doing this weird thing where he'd just say "Bathory" (I was wearing a Bathory shirt) and then kinda patted my chest several times. Eventually he cut that shit out and started showing me pictures of his newborn daughter. I feel bad for his daughter to be honest.
I had just turned 18 and I'm very short/small, long wavy hair and clean shaven so he probably thought I was a girl .... or he's gay. If I was a girl he would've been touching my tits.
My heart goes out to women who have to deal with that shit regularly
damn, shouldve gone to see a band that didnt suck ass with a dogshit fan base
You know you’re old if STP teams Stone Temple Pilots to you rather than Slaughter to Prevail
@@Not_SalNever heard of the second group, and the Stone Temple Pilots were my mother’s generation.
Maybe they’re just not that well-known.
As some one who went to a misfits concert I can confirm all punk rockers are to old to mosh 💀
They’re one of the oldest bands… ofc they’ll have old fans. most punk shows don’t have old crowds.
nah that's just the Misfits, I saw New Model Army a couple years ago and got battered in a pit of old, overweight, bald, shirtless men who've clearly been at it for years. but UK punks are just like that
I saw the Misfits in Dallas 2 years ago and saw the biggest mosh pit I've ever seen. Got a chair thrown at me, one hit my wife and then someone threw their friend right into our backs. The energy is still there, I think it just depends on the place. I've seen stuff still in Kansas City and Dallas but places like St. Louis and Oklahoma (Tulsa and OKC) are pretty dead pit wise. But this is just from my experience having seen like 150 bands in the past 3 years
I went to Social Distortion last month and the pkt was rougher than i expected. Those gen xers still got it.
I saw Bad Religion a few months ago. There were a lot of gray Mohawks and wrinkled faces going HARD AF in the pit.
The whole violence at hardcore shows was a thing way before TikTok. There are videos of it happening in the late 90's and early 2000's.
It probably was, but if someone was actually hurt people were more considerate back then, no?
@eliasmsv3156 from the videos I've seen it's actually gotten better in that regard, there are exceptions going both ways depending on the regional scene and whatnot. Usually the old heads seem a bit meaner about it in my experience.
Anyone who goes to a hardcore show knows that there will be blood, and there are certain strategies for staying relatively safe. Basically, if you don't want the smoke, stay out of the fire (mosh area); some bands foster violence more than others; some venues have no security, others have thugs for security. I've seen a guy wear a bike helmet. Overall, if you go looking for an actual fight, you will catch hands and feet. I've gotten my share of falls and bloody noses, so I'm good just sitting it out.
Yeah, the violence and hyper masculinity of hardcore was one of the reasons many hardcore subgenres, like Emo, Post-hardcore and Sasscore came to be
@@diebug6277post hardcore is the best
Man brushes teeth at merzbow concert
That was fucking dope
as long as no ones knocking my table over im down for whatever at a noise show haha.
Yeah but that didn't interfere with the artist. You're free to be an idiot as long as you are not messing up the concert.
i always record one or two 30 second videos per artist/band then i put my phone away and have fun
also smaller hardcore/punk/metal shows are where its at
Ask A Punk is the best venue 😼🤙🏿
Half a minute is overboard tbh
anything more than a pic is ridiculous. Phones kill shows.
@@StealthHalberd01 acting like a 30 second video out of an hour long event is rlly that bad ... especially when half the ppl there will have their phones out the whole time
@@darkdave1998 like what are you supposed to record a 2 second long video instead you just wanna be different so bad
Just saw Deadmau5 and man what a chill crowd. Concert etiquette does exist just outside anything playing on TikTok
ayy my band made the cut 0:52 Lethal Injection SFLHC
luckily our hc scene doesn’t have these issues
@@SLOGTV666 you're lying. hardcore scene sucks ass. music is all poser normie shit. most of you either neckbeards or models. violence always ruins shows. rich kids from miami can suck my azz. there's nothing cool here, and nobody doing shit. weirdo misfits from fort lauderdale too. same old bullshit, but it's all still fake. All the bands are just the same guy. Am I punk yet? No! And the violence, it's the danger effect, and we all know how that plays out. We can do that or we can just skip it. or the people who come here from bum fuck nowhere to be in the center of a small ass punk scene that's gross as fuck already for people who wanna just have a good time. And then gatekeep it! Stop being a puss y! Grow up. Fuck your toughcore band too. I literally don't give a shit. Here's the attention you crave lol. The only time people in boring old florida are punks is when they wanna party. Punk is a waste of time already, don't need a bunch of losers making it suck worse. It's like walking into a room full of angry 30 year olds sharing a bag of sugar, and now that I'm that age I don't get it why those kids are so pissed off. Fuck o ff thennn. And don't get me started on the emo and weeb shit, what a bunch of lames. I feel genuinely sorry for anyone trying to hang around the general "scene" because they're gonna get chewed up and spit out like a whore. And maybe they are. To sum it up. Florida sucks. Your band sucks. Punk music sucks, literally the worst excuse to drink in public yet. I can't believe people fall for shit like this, "trust me bro I'm in a band."
SFL BEST!!
We out here 😂😂😂
@@haroldcampos9661looks like someones mad
Social media and its consequences has been disastrous for civilization or whatever that one guy said
The concert abuse that ended going for me was the 15€ beers.
Gojira is performing next year in bulgaria for the first time, it will be my first metal concert. If i am brought to a phone pit instead of a moshpit im gonna genuinely start tweaking, who pays a 110 pounds to hold up phone.
Literally that would be abysmal
Dude don’t worry, been to multiple metal shows for years, phones aren’t that extreme, however always check the pit before you go in
Also look out for beer showers
@@itstreasonthen2076 got it
Only reason I'd ever hold up my phone at a concert was to record some memories I can look back on, rather than paying out 50 bucks for a shirt (that I would love, but, money's tight)
Surprised there was no mention of Prince getting booed when he opened for the Rolling Stones.
I remember a Timberlake getting pelted with bottles at some concert in Toronto because he was really anachronistic to the lineup where the stones and AC/DC played, guy is a huge class act he just joked it off and did one of the best renditions of Miss You I've ever heard
Ghost has attracted a huge amount of teens in recent years and seems to try to fight the "main character syndrome" via a ban of phones on the upcoming 2025 tour.
i went to aristocrats show last year and there were ppl still trying to record even tho guthrie requested them to not to. there was a guy in front of me who didnt even know who was guthrie govan but still started recording the moment they kindly asked not to. i dont get the point...
GG ALLIN JOINS THE CHAT
GG Allin was a racist abuser
*shit hits the fan*
perfect time for coolea
Yo that’s my buddy chuck lol 0:12
Dude i saw that and was like "hold up, this looks familiar" haha
As someone who went to ONE concert, i didnt even want my phone, like it was harder to enjoy while holding a phone, and tbh i have no regrets!! (About going to the concert)
"No phone in sight, just people enjoying the moment" is a meme, but people should actually attempt that. Nobody is going to watch your shaky video with deep fried sound anyways.
@NeedForMadnessSVK fr!! Its also holding something so your hands wouldnt be free
Yeah same I’ll pull it out to take a few pictures and video clips to show my family but 95% percent of the show it’s in my pocket
tbh i never really saw the point of recording shows when everyone next to you is doing that anyway and the quality is gonna be ass. whenever i feel the need to record a memory i end up never looking at it again.
@humanhumanson-jr8sk me too xD I usually end up deleted my whole camera roll on my phone anyways and if you can't remember going to such a fun experience then I will assume your attention spam is very short! And theres always going to be ONE person to record it
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So I went to go see Meshuggah a couple of years ago after work last June and much like every other metal gig, everyone was wearing a black t-shirt with a metal band on it, I had come from work so I wasn't wearing one, I had a bright yellow t-shirt with the word Cheddar printed on it
A grown ass man of about 40 tapped me on the shoulder and said to me and my friend "what are YOU guys doing here, you don't belong here, you don't really listen to Meshuggah!"
"Eh, yeah I do man that's why I bought a ticket" - I replied
"You're hear with your yellow t-shirt, you don't even have a metal band shirt you don't belong here"
"Cheddar are my favourite band man I've seen them 5 times" i tried joking
"Okay well if you're such a big fan name three of their songs"
*So I named 5*
"Wow, all their biggest hits...."
Then I was getting fed up so I said "well thanks for confirming that I am in fact cool enough to stand in front of you"
His wife was laughing at HIM at this stage
Then he started to get a bit apologetic and said "well yknow, the real reason I'm annoyed is cus you're standing in front of all of us and we can't see!"
So I replied "man, you are about 6ft 3, I'm like 5ft 7, do you not think YOU are in more peoples' way than me????"
Then there was a very very long pause, I'm talking about 10 seconds, to which he finally said "eh, yknow that's actually a very good point you're after making"
Then his wife said "don't mind him he's been in a bad mood all day" and turned to him and called him a dickhead.
I wouldn't mind after their first song I turned to my friend still within earshot of your man and said "HERE COMES RATIONAL FUCKING GAZE " because I had seen their setlist. And that was the last he saw of me , as I jumped into the pit, so I definitely proved him wrong
But yeah massively cringe story with an actual real life grown ass man gatekeeper. so yes Meshuggah fans can suck
Well you don't have people using laser pointers any more so thats a positive.
Remember kids:
- on wave front to back, arms first
- have water (and booze)
- f** backpacks and chains
- steelnose or jump a lot
- don't block rims
- save the life if someone felt in marshpit
- if sad or bored, go deeper
- if still sad or bored and already deep, start mashing
Good luck
Mashing in the marshpit. Sounds accurate
ok
Wait what does block rims mean exactly
What kind of corny ass music fests shit is this. Lol
that girl eating an apple at the aphex twin concert feels like extra respect for him
One of the clear take away is that people who are buying tickets for these events are literally there for a single artist, most of whom probably never listened past said artist's hits from billboard's top 100. The issue isn't just concerts but any public event you'll be seeing those who are just there for themselves and not a part of some sort experience. The best thing to do is shame those who aren't showing proper etiquette, make sure that their actions have consequences.
There's also an argument of being entitled to a good show since ticketmaster has a monopoly over concerts. With most tickets being over priced for even mid level performers.
What an amazing video! I’m going to dive into a someone’s drums 3 times in one concert now
Bad mischaracterization of astro world. That was the venue and performers fault, not the concert goers. Also, you keep showing footage of the kid in green boxers getting bottle thrown at him. That kid wasn't a performer and he had started fights with others in the crowd.
Literally, the security was almost helpless against that insane crowd. Yes the job is to protect the concert goers ,ensure the safety & so on.
But, that crowd was in the heat wanting to see a performance in a dense city.
If it were in a different venue in a less crowded area than we wouldn’t have to talk about it this way in present day, nor have to see Travis Scott’s “apology”
It's 80% Travis' fault, 15% venue, 5% fans.
@@theewildrose exactly
It fits green boxer kid was interrupting concert lol
@theewildrose how is it the attendee's fault lol
I thought you were addresing Ticketmaster... concert cultured is way more cooked bc of these guys than for anything attendees do
ban tiktok already there is no reason for it to exist not one and things will get back to good old times pretty soon.
Band shows up to a town they visit once every 15 years: "StOp rEcORDinG oUr sHOwS!!"
What is the point of recording a show on your phone anyways it's like those old bootleg tapes that were recorded on some crappy Sony Walkman from a guy that was in the bleachers.
@@kenon6968 I usually record the first couple minutes then enjoy the rest of the show. It’s cool to look back at the recordings cuz it helps me remember it better.
@@AlanGarcia-sp3bx a lot of my favourite bands are from the cassette era and I'm infinitely thankful that some nerd went out and recorded these shows because a lot of these bands maybe put out a a few singles or an EP and then disappeared.
In this day and age and especially how record sales have really collapses of revenue source there's no excuse for bands not too at least release soundboard recordings of every one of their live shows and said it free revenue really, hell if they want to get really spicy they can take cell phone footage recorded from their girlfriends in the audience splice in the audio and there you go you have concert footage for every show, seems like practically free revenue
Social media is ruining social life
18 minutes of high quality slop, great work Coolea, ceep it up!
The damnation festival this year has such a good crowd!
Yooo yes it did! Dragged into Sunlight and Nails went the fuck off!
Best festival I've been to! Alot of these issues seem like they are only a big thing in US, never had any of these issues in UK
I heard stories of an influencer there too. In the crowd with a ringlight filming herself. 😂
@@druidsandhorses3971 you know what, I completely forgot about that. She passed us by I want to say before Russian Circles? Everyone around me was so shocked by it no one had time to essentially tell her to fuck off. It was totally out of left field at a place like that 🤣
@@druidsandhorses3971 I dunno why my comment got removed but yes you're right! We saw her before Russian Circles. Everyone around us was visibly confused by it haha!
I love your face morph edits. So funny and unexpected lol
I remember my freshman year of college I managed to find myself a ticket to The Garden, after moving 200 miles across the country and at the show before the one I went to there was someone near the barricade who p*ssed in the crowd because they didn’t wanna go to the bathroom. I swear Ive never had a normal concert experience without any kind of strange chaos.
When I was a kid going to hardcore shows we had an unspoken rule, a kind of "mosh etiquette". Limbs were flying, but no one was getting hit, I'm talking 10 man windmills and donkey kicks and we all knew what was up, these days you look at show footage and its like 3 or 4 dudes trying to hurt people while everyone else ignores the band trying not to get hit, and back then if you took your phone in the building you were gonna lose it.
I saw a dude in a wheelchair in the mosh at a Tomb of Doom concert get accidentally hit and the guy who hit him was picked up by the crowd and thrown out of the building. The current culture is putrid, you should all be ashamed. You never even see synchronized 2-step anymore
Phone out in the pit makes you a target for sure. Rightfully so.
If I was a headliner and people were given my support act crap I just wouldn't perform and make the audience know why
Then you wouldn't get paid, idiot.
I enjoy small venues the most…usually I don’t even bring my phone I am there to enjoy the live music and dance or jump nothing else…
Live how new bands coming out this decade dont have thia issue because of the fact that they dont have many people.
And the people generally want to hear them play
This was very depressing yet cathartic to hear. Luckily in the UK metal scene I haven't seen toooooo much of this yet, but I've seen PLENTY of documented examples. People really do believe it's all for their benefit
Your point about Lean is so spot on. The irony of hating on his performance by Trav's fans is insane
I went to boilerroom and the crowd was like dead, the barley danced. Instead it felt like everyone was there just because it was "boilerroom" not to dance or have fun but more like a status thing. It sucked never going again.
I feel you. I can't tell if I just have high standards or what but to me it seems like a few crowds I've been a part of at concerts don't even try to enjoy the music they literally just stand there and these are supposed to be fans of the headliner and I'm like " Why aren't you guys at least tapping your feet or something?" Concert culture is dead.
@gangstarock2455 we shall revive it😎
People often forget that there favorite acts where once openers for someone else at one point
One time I saw Steve Aoki and he had the nerve to throw an entire cake right in my frigging face. Makes me think the artists are the problem, not the crowd
My dad jumped of a 20 foot balcony at a green day concert and broke his leg. (This was over 20 years ago)
This must be a hip hop/rap thing more. I find the opposite to be true in metal/punk concerts, which used to be bad for support acts back in the day (early 2000s; audience not knowing the support act or unappreciative that the support act isn’t from the same sub-catergory as the main act) now I find metal show audiences are more open-minded. A goth rock/metal band can open up for a death metal band and the audience are cool with it , unlike back in the day where it likely would be hostile for the opening act of a different sub-genre. Seems mainstream rap is behind in this aspect, but its still weird since yung lean is from the same cloth as scotty trivias
Turnstile concerts look extremely fun. Hardly anyone is on their phone, and the energy in the room is insane, and their fans absolutely love them and vice versa.
this is why i love death metal concerts as there the most chill mfs I've seen. i mean yea its metal so there gonna be things like mosh pits but that's all in good fun, but the moment someone acts a fool towards the band/audience then they gonna find out
There is a reason i unfortunately avoid concerts from bands i like, i rather listen to their songs at home, and without having a 100000 lumens light being directed straight into my face, concerts are unfortunately the worst way to experience a band these days, specially when the people attending these concerts are preps trying to act "punk" or "radical".
I love your editing man. So fun to watch and makes me laugh every time👍
I just see main stream musicians getting that genuine GG Allin concerts experience.
Liszt also angled his piano so that those in attendance could see his hands as he played whereas before the pianist would have the piano arranged so that it created a barrier between the performer and the attendees
Crazy that in 2024, metal concerts have become more civil that pop or rap shows 😂
Dude, this channel is so good. The analysis is great ofc, but what really sets it apart is the boots-on-the-ground POV of someone that's viewing these shifts in the zeitgeist from the inside, as they're happening, rather than through a screen. Keep it up. Great stuff.
I remember I was in a small indoor venue to see Mac Sabbath, a Black Sabbath parody band, and during "Paranoid" there was a mosh pit. The only security bouncer at the venue tried to stop it in vain, so it continued on for 5 minutes. Then the singer dressed as Ronald McDonald went crowd surfing and it went well.
Best $25 I've ever spent!
I just saw the band Julie which is a newer shoegaze/noisepop band. The pit had subway surfer players, filming on a DS, mosh pit with 10+ people filming and chanting whether a song was being played or not. Youth culture is cooked.
Thats why i am glad my local scene is active, thriving and unlittered by influencers
Overweight guy throwing elbows into an emo girl IS THE AUTHENTIC 2000s hardcore experience.
Lethal Injection 0:51
People on twitter say shit about you and your videos but I think they’re pretty good. Well researched and filled with some obscure knowledge.
I dont blame lockdowd. I blame vapid internet and meme culture for making people progressively dumber and more entitled by the year. As someone who attended their first concer in 1989 and played gigs as an active musician for 25 years, a lot of this behavior can be traced back as early as the late 2000s, and its just getting worse. I punched out some idiot 3 years ago at a park show I was playing because he thought it would be funny to throw firecrackers at the bands.
Basically, realize that other humans exist and aren't just side characters and you're good. We need more people in crowds who put these main character types in their places for real.
Yeh nah I kinda don't blame Ghost for announcing a No Phone policy for their shows now 🤔
Legit witnessed TikTok troglodytes a couple years ago during a Born of Osiris gig, entering the crowd midset just to record themselves for half a song and then leave.
If America is still here in July I'll be in NYC watching them and I love the idea of no phones. I go to a show for the show, for the music, for the artist. It doesn't make sense to me to spend the kind of money it takes to go to a show to just not be there fully.
Do they still play that banger “Fuckin bow down!!”
@@off6848 which one is that because they all involve Satan.
NO FREAKING WAY!!! MY HOMIES WAS AT THAT SHOW !!9:03
Just go to king gizzard concerts, it’s all love there
Even movie theaters have an uptick in selfishness. Before covid, it was getting bad, but now? So many people talking during the movie, playing on phones, getting up and down. Never seen it so much in my life.
now u know how car guys felt when takeovers got popular lol
Shoutouts to the people at the Magdalena Bay show I just went to, great crowd and respectful as well.
I'm reminded of the Chicken wire, in the Blues Brothers movie.
Concert tickets are so expensive for some of the artists you mentioned, that I wouldn’t pay to sit that close
I love the bit at the end about the universe!
These people have always existed (see Axl Rose and Nikki Six going insane, throwing junk at Linkin Park during the One More Light era, or the many people using laser pointers at Paul Standly) but it has ramped up a lot (partly due to Ronnie Ranke being the modern day Axl Rose)
There's also the time Nikki Six called one of the security guys an n-word multiple times for being aggressive or some shit.
@@yungfiend6830 I was referring to that.
Im so lucky when it comes to seeing great shows and good crowds. Everything really has changed, even concert crowds, the one place we all let our gaurd down and agree on things. Tough crowd 😅
0:12 I WAS THERE, THAT SHOW WAS SICK.
That’s the lead singer of xforeverwarx going crazy to misery whip!
SLCHC mentioned, LETS GO.
SLC UP NEXT
14:26 thanks for the shoutout
I've noticed this particularly with rap shows. Post pandemic I've noticed the trend in newer shows especially smaller scale where the rapper doesn't have experience or a concept of stage performance or charisma, the mix is bad and it's probably just the songs playing from a phone off the soundcloud page, and the audience doesn't really care about any of this. They're not concerned with what the actual experience is. It's like the point of them being there is to get videos of them being there to post online but otherwise they don't really know what to do or how to act. It's really jarring to witness for someone who's seen plenty of great shows of many genres and styles.
Yoo these edits always kill me, love it
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Eating lunch + Watching Coolea = *Perfection*
I love mindless non stop brainrot at the introduction of my videos
The consequences of radical individualism has led many to forget that they live in a society, an attempting to live out of it often leads to the harm of others
That's why I cut short my stories and watch the band without my phone
08:58 SNAPPY SPOTTED MY BELOVED ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
W snappy appearance
This makes me miss Dillinger Escape Plan shows. We had a good run fellas 😢
This man needs to start making music videos this editing is on another level
Your whole take on the influx of newbies to concerts is 100% on the money. I went to a Yeat concert this year and I overheard from the crowd attendees that this is their first concert. I told a few people that surrounded me to respect the moshpits. And of course the moment it was time for a moshpit these people went in. Only for a few minutes later seeing the same people desperately trying to get out of the moshpit crying. Rookie mistake.
I don't know about other countries in Europe or America,but here in Greece we respect the artists we watch on the concert,maybe its because we wait 10 years to see then again if they coma again,but still, I've never seen any artist complaining about getting hit by something in Greece,the only thing they complain is that the temperature is 39°
And for some reason only korn didn't complain about the heat,but I could say that Jonathan didn't like our weather because he took off his purple jacket and stayed with a black shirt but the first minute
Tryna see coolea at the local beatdown show
About 10 or so years ago, I saw HORSE the band. Some dude in a hotdog costume thought he was there as part of the performance, too. Kept stage diving, moshing with people who weren't moshing, being a general nuisance. Finally, the band's keyboardist, Erik Engstrom (who was down to his underwear by this point in the show. IYKYK) grabbed this dude and threw him off the front of the stage where 2 security guys kicked his ass and threw him out. Everyone was thrilled.
Germany has a no phones law in many club venues. I wish it would spread.
unironically really enjoy how you try to contextualize stuff with previous historic evidence. showing that this stuff isn't new and is "normal" human behavior
The only good aspect of this is when they hold up their phones and play fnaf or family guy while we’re waiting for someone to come out and play music bc it entertains me every time
I think the worst examples of this comes from people that want to be part of concert culture but dont really care for the performance. They ruin the experience for others by not paying any atention to the performance and are generally just busy showing their social media folllowing that they are at a concert
Preach, most honorbale cultured goblin!❤
Awesome Video
You really make some of the best content ^^
I don’t think I’m a main character, but I do suspect more and more that people may be npcs