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  • @jonathanwebster7091
    @jonathanwebster7091 3 месяца назад +1303

    Am I the only person who is getting rather annoyed that every new type of music that's slightly heavier than a not-heavy type of music is instantly labelled as "something-core"?

    • @Skaatje
      @Skaatje 3 месяца назад +147

      And most of it is just a form of punk with a new theme. I guess kids today still want to shock and can't really play instruments. Shocker.

    • @Tangent_Frank
      @Tangent_Frank 3 месяца назад +52

      It's honestly unoriginal and makes me avoid a genre that use that stupid trope

    • @leotostes
      @leotostes 3 месяца назад +20

      I don't see where you are coming from. The latest type of music that i have seen that is heavier than the average and got popular was phonk, and honestly there are entire phonk artists that shound heavier (not the same as aggressive) than a bunch of metal songs out there and it isnt a "-core" neither are any of it's subgenres.

    • @jonathanwebster7091
      @jonathanwebster7091 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@leotostes I didn't say anything about any of them getting popular.

    • @ihatesamir
      @ihatesamir 3 месяца назад +8

      who give af

  • @jlmenard7688
    @jlmenard7688 3 месяца назад +550

    This is the opposite of male manipulator music

    • @nanek2967
      @nanek2967 3 месяца назад

      Autistic Virgin™ music

    • @motosigo
      @motosigo 3 месяца назад +52

      I feel like it's just a different side to the same coin lol

    • @mbvqzz
      @mbvqzz 3 месяца назад +70

      @@motosigothey both would manipulate women, only difference is they have none to manipulate

    • @tiltltt
      @tiltltt 3 месяца назад +35

      female avoidant noise

    • @qriofficial1769
      @qriofficial1769 3 месяца назад

      What is male manipulator music anyway lol

  • @Skaatje
    @Skaatje 3 месяца назад +476

    I'm mostly shocked at the amount of women at Virginfest.

    • @woozie77
      @woozie77 3 месяца назад +141

      foids tryna b different and edgy what’s new

    • @CHAAAAAOTIC
      @CHAAAAAOTIC 3 месяца назад

      Tell me when you get laid bro

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +70

      fishing orbiters, just like /soc/

    • @angelg8877
      @angelg8877 3 месяца назад +35

      304 trying to get simps

    • @averytherockgod9822
      @averytherockgod9822 3 месяца назад

      Well femcels r a thing lol

  • @kairumustdie
    @kairumustdie 3 месяца назад +455

    "I'm starting to think 'punk' as a whole is just a fucking oxymoron at this point"
    I can't help but feel like we've been at this particular point for much longer than we all realize.

    • @bazookaman1353
      @bazookaman1353 3 месяца назад +28

      It's almost like the word's just a synonym for idiot.

    • @jacksampsonforever
      @jacksampsonforever 3 месяца назад +16

      Agreed, Every type of music that's super easy to play is "punk"

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +3

      @@jacksampsonforever but no one brings back hard to play music, because everyone sucks and relies on marketing labels for social media trends

    • @sollbruchstelleamknicklich9495
      @sollbruchstelleamknicklich9495 3 месяца назад +27

      ⁠@@j.2512wtf are you on about? There are plenty of bands and artists who play really complicated and complex stuff. And it never went away obviously and therefore nobody can bring it "back". What an absolute shit take.

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +2

      @@sollbruchstelleamknicklich9495 Please don't say "black midi" please, i beg you jajajajaaj

  • @CHAAAAAOTIC
    @CHAAAAAOTIC 3 месяца назад +171

    Counterculture or cringe? It can be both

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +2

      social media scene is the culture

    • @NicolasLuengas
      @NicolasLuengas 3 месяца назад +1

      Real

    • @azure_azure
      @azure_azure 3 месяца назад +15

      Counterculture usually is cringe tbh

    • @andrewnicon
      @andrewnicon Месяц назад +3

      Its not counterculture. They're part of a huge and prominent culture.

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 Месяц назад +7

      Yeah, a huge and prominent counter culture lol​@@andrewnicon

  • @Skimmerlit
    @Skimmerlit 3 месяца назад +770

    “Epunk” is too clean as a name. I like how ugly and uncomfortable incelcore is.

    • @ryderthomas24
      @ryderthomas24 3 месяца назад +48

      I agree. While most of the songs don't have much to do with incles besides their low self-esteem, I still think it fits because of off-putting it can be at frist

    • @pissinurmouth
      @pissinurmouth 3 месяца назад

      as an incelcore vet i agree

    • @IXINOSIS
      @IXINOSIS 3 месяца назад +29

      Incelcore is more grunge than anything else. It has Nirvana's bleach and Failure's fantastic planet vibe to it at least in my mind. Compare the lyrics or sound of any incelcore song and look at a grunge band with a album similar to bleach.

    • @hishamhilal8332
      @hishamhilal8332 3 месяца назад +21

      Call it Spunk

    • @Sub5_77
      @Sub5_77 3 месяца назад +11

      @@IXINOSIS Thats why incelcore is better as a name than epunk

  • @mutedups
    @mutedups 12 дней назад +30

    Incelcore in a nutshell is about depression, not being able to live properly, being sad, feeling ostracized and scathingly critiquing society as a whole and where we've gone. Someone described it as "if 4chan made covers of the pixies, like a new version of grunge"

  • @beavercontrol1743
    @beavercontrol1743 2 месяца назад +71

    nothing says anti-facist like calling the cops on nerds in the forest playing music

    • @DeadpoolX9
      @DeadpoolX9 11 дней назад +8

      Literal fun police

  • @Sokki_165
    @Sokki_165 3 месяца назад +435

    Waiting for skibidicore

    • @readuth1488
      @readuth1488 3 месяца назад +30

      inshallah

    • @kuramafn3988
      @kuramafn3988 3 месяца назад +20

      Trust me, it will be a subgenre of goregrind of zoomers making fun of gen alpha's brainrot

    • @Sokki_165
      @Sokki_165 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kuramafn3988 yo dude, want to get in my skibidicore band? We are going to make a revolution on metal

    • @bobsbigboy_
      @bobsbigboy_ 3 месяца назад +3

      Mashallah, habibi

    • @lukethekuya
      @lukethekuya 2 месяца назад +4

      Ohiocore

  • @tinyf666
    @tinyf666 3 месяца назад +229

    "about hating women and having horrendous production quality"? isn't that just noise rock

    • @eliasmg9144
      @eliasmg9144 3 месяца назад +27

      You're thinking of power electronics

    • @Vindicador01
      @Vindicador01 3 месяца назад +7

      Women have it so easy its infuriating

    • @yungvarg2301
      @yungvarg2301 2 месяца назад +6

      @@eliasmg9144 Power Electronics? Isnt that about hating minorities?

    • @eliasmg9144
      @eliasmg9144 2 месяца назад +3

      @@yungvarg2301 you're thinking of nsbm

    • @vicentesanchezjr.3877
      @vicentesanchezjr.3877 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@Vindicador01 you haven't grown up yet kid if you think that way. Everyone has theirs perks in life

  • @crowdkillproductions.
    @crowdkillproductions. 3 месяца назад +71

    Antifa called the police? What a bunch of hypocrites lol.

  • @m0ney4me
    @m0ney4me 3 месяца назад +64

    Incelcore kinda reminds me of the second wave black metal story. Shitty recordings done at home, gatekeeping, bad rep, crimes, moving goalposts, organizing n profiting gets shut down.

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258 3 месяца назад +15

      Some Incelcore actually goes into black metal territory. Some of Uhohslater I believe, and Negative XP on Gamer 3. There are strange parallels between the genres.

    • @painunending4610
      @painunending4610 3 месяца назад +14

      Don't think there are any crimes associated with Incelcore? Proven crimes at least

    • @m0ney4me
      @m0ney4me 3 месяца назад

      @@painunending4610 nothing actually proven I’m sure all I can think of is like the drama from doomer fest where some bpd ppl tried to say they were high on drugs n couldn’t consent among other little stuff. Also couple artists allegedly getting nudes from minors

    • @m0ney4me
      @m0ney4me 3 месяца назад

      @@painunending4610 ya doubt there’s anything actually proven(despite all the visits xp got from the fbi). There were allegations of drugs going around doomer fest organizers n some doped up bpd ppl said they couldn’t consent to sex. That was more bf/gf/tribe drama. Couple of artists allegedly getting nudes from minors n edating minors. I’m not trying to make them seem anything like black metal in that regard but there has been some accusations

    • @bubblysquidd4671
      @bubblysquidd4671 12 дней назад

      @@painunending4610idk I’m pretty sure fbf is a predator lmao

  • @NeepNeepPohn
    @NeepNeepPohn 3 месяца назад +282

    Anthony Fantano sperging out over Negative XP making fun of his fans on Twitter while Negative XP has laughed at pretty much every joke made at his expense will never not be funny

    • @Иблис96
      @Иблис96 3 месяца назад +44

      Fantano is a shell of his former self.

    • @texicothugger
      @texicothugger 3 месяца назад +68

      @@Иблис96remember when he used to literally review peste noire and nsbm, now he won’t review kanye lmao

    • @kuru4764
      @kuru4764 3 месяца назад +2

      Until he sold out when he got a gf

    • @Иблис96
      @Иблис96 3 месяца назад +65

      @@texicothugger I swear to god its all performative. You can literally see him enjoying parts of Vultures but he knows he has a hasanabi ass audience now watching his every move.

    • @NeepNeepPohn
      @NeepNeepPohn 3 месяца назад +23

      @@Иблис96 it's even funnier that Kanye is such a bad person now for saying antisemitic shit yet despite being a """"feminist"""" he won't say shit about any other rapper saying the most misogynistic shit known to man but since they aren't in hot water rn it's okay. So fucking performative

  • @DarthLikesMusic
    @DarthLikesMusic 3 месяца назад +28

    Best artists in the genre are Preripped, Negative Xp, and Steakfry. Steakfry, in particular, did something completely different than the others, and combining Spaghetti Western music with punk to make some cool stuff. Tragedy he died so young. Cancer sucks, man.

  • @capngrimm3684
    @capngrimm3684 3 месяца назад +278

    >"Real Punks" get offended by a new Punk style that is trying to piss people off
    >Punk rock was originally trying to piss people off
    Conclusion:
    Incelcore or e-Punk is very punk rock for pissing people off

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +20

      punk has always sucked

    • @pissinurmouth
      @pissinurmouth 3 месяца назад

      we just too awsum man

    • @user-ut5qc3du4t
      @user-ut5qc3du4t 3 месяца назад +32

      incelcore is not punk at all hahahaha. punk was and is always about politics and hating woman is the exact opposite of the punk standpoint

    • @al-mungus677
      @al-mungus677 3 месяца назад

      ​@@user-ut5qc3du4tpunk is having the same ideas as I do and following them with unwavering belief got it

    • @al-mungus677
      @al-mungus677 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@j.2512I agree it always sucked but I fw it cause it can easily piss people off

  • @RShanjihad
    @RShanjihad 3 месяца назад +35

    Dude woke up and decide he's gonna piss off both far ends of the political spectrum with one vid

  • @Иблис96
    @Иблис96 3 месяца назад +215

    Negative xp and his consequences on the world.

    • @angelg8877
      @angelg8877 3 месяца назад +15

      Cope

    • @Иблис96
      @Иблис96 3 месяца назад +24

      @RareChud username checks out

    • @bhante1345
      @bhante1345 3 месяца назад +13

      They hated him because he spoke the truth.

    • @BeatsBySelim26
      @BeatsBySelim26 3 месяца назад +1

      Negative Xp introduced me to Ramona Flowers so I will always respect him

    • @Vindicador01
      @Vindicador01 3 месяца назад +4

      Women have it so easy its infuriating

  • @jessrocha6178
    @jessrocha6178 3 месяца назад +60

    “punk is a oxymoron at this point” i mean pop punk is the most popular punk sub genre since like the 2000’s so Its the an oxymoron for a while

  • @azure_azure
    @azure_azure 3 месяца назад +98

    The downfall of Fantano must be studied.

    • @johnchedsey1306
      @johnchedsey1306 3 месяца назад +26

      I just don't get him. I tried watching one of his videos like 5 years ago and gave up within minutes. I kinda hate that I'm even aware of his existence.

    • @bhante1345
      @bhante1345 3 месяца назад

      Accelerate

    • @vyyr
      @vyyr 3 месяца назад

      >be fantano
      >be 2015
      >4shit makes up majority of your audience
      >be edgy
      >be 2017
      >live in post orange man won world
      >wife beats you up for disagreeing with blackrock backed opinions
      Not much to study about it

    • @kaiserteddie9564
      @kaiserteddie9564 3 месяца назад +1

      i mean, whats there to study?
      its clear this guy is just a grifter

    • @hedgehogsnhotdogs8627
      @hedgehogsnhotdogs8627 3 месяца назад +4

      I honestly wouldn't say he had any kind of downfall just every few years he comes out with a braindead political take that he gets unreasonably upset about

  • @statesurveillanced3883
    @statesurveillanced3883 3 месяца назад +142

    Homie did not mention how much of incelcore is just mfers being lonely, no women hate (sometimes)

  • @vbence12
    @vbence12 3 месяца назад +18

    So sad that incelcores legacy will be "the genre for woman haters" when it was absolutely not that. It spoke to the teen/young adult look of the world that the hapy go lucky of pop punk and the blame the government attitude of more hardcore subgenres could never.
    (Yes the genre had a fair share of it's own bad apples/people trolling to get people mad but the genre was much more)

    • @pissinurmouth
      @pissinurmouth 3 месяца назад

      we actually do have real mysoginists n felons n criminals within the scene

  • @GlinkBetweenWorlds
    @GlinkBetweenWorlds 2 месяца назад +14

    this is a video ive been wanting to make for awhile, but you seem to have said everything in a more concise and digestible format than I would have done. Happy to see you use footage from Negative XP at Light Wave. The fractured environment of communities and subculture you speak of stands in the way of our generation being able to unite around an artistic movement in the way that we did with grunge and punk in the 90s and 80s. The reason I put together Light Wave and had Negative XP perform there was simple, real life concerts are the way we connect with the music and each other in any 'scene' the most naturally. These groups keeps falling apart and tearing each other down because they are too embedded within the online environment which is constantly changing and inherently confusing due to the nature of how we perceive each other through limited senses. I would love to talk with you sometime about this topic as there's much more to explore! Great work, you've earned a new subscriber and appreciator.

    • @coolea
      @coolea  2 месяца назад +3

      Thanks man, means a lot. Your journalistic work in the past is something I really appreciate, the effort and care behind your videos is admirable. I'd love to chat further regarding this topic. Reach out to me on Insta or Discord in the description, I'd love to have a discussion.

  • @wesst.422
    @wesst.422 3 месяца назад +47

    Fun Drinking Game: Watch Coolea videos and take a shot everytime the "don't buy weed from the gas station" plays! By the end you will look like you've bought weed from the gas station

  • @Cassgemini68419
    @Cassgemini68419 3 месяца назад +37

    Holy shit was not expecting this. This should be interesting, I was heavily listening to this stuff in its peak 2020-2021. So I listened it to a lot. Should be an interesting video!

  • @cranbororjucc5346
    @cranbororjucc5346 3 месяца назад +61

    can't it be both

  • @jackmaniacmusic
    @jackmaniacmusic 3 месяца назад +63

    Always glad to have press, but I think you got quite a few points of the timeline wrong, as someone who’s been with it since at least 2020. The “Epunk” rebrand was something Negative XP came up with long after virginfest. Some adopt it, others don’t. Also, manson family murder tapes came out in 2020, over a year before virginfest, and long before negative XP nuking MSG. It wasn’t an attempt to “revive the scene”, it was a separate comp that didn’t see as much success.
    Also, to say that incelcore or epunk is “dead” I think is a bit wrong. There’s less mainstream attention on it than there was at the flashpoint of virginfest, and there’s certainly been a changing of the guard, as a lot of the OG artists either left the scene or retired. But artists like Fried by Fluoride, NEET, Crustsox, and H4rtbrkr have seen massive growth of the last few years, with no signs of stopping. Some of the more OG Artists like Greens on Toast continue to play shows and see growth as well.
    Otherwise, not a bad video. I can appreciate that you tried to shed some positive light on the community, rather than being super negative.

    • @painunending4610
      @painunending4610 3 месяца назад +3

      I heard CrustSox stopped after being harassed on twitter for having a weak chin? Shame because he's probably the best of that bunch
      Also heard NEET has a gf and FbF is on some weird shit

    • @dr_popcorn
      @dr_popcorn 3 месяца назад +5

      no genre of music is dead until it is played for the last time

    • @jackmaniacmusic
      @jackmaniacmusic 3 месяца назад +7

      @@painunending4610 Sox is still around, he dropped an EP a couple months ago!

    • @dievleisboom332
      @dievleisboom332 12 дней назад

      @@painunending4610Wait, what's wrong with FbF? I've been following him for a while now and haven't noticed anything weird.

  • @roach590
    @roach590 3 месяца назад +53

    I just love how people keep further proving incelcore is real punk by calling it offensive and trying to cancel it

    • @catsupempire3920
      @catsupempire3920 2 месяца назад

      my brother in christ it's literal nazi bs

  • @Dododeath
    @Dododeath 3 месяца назад +155

    ironic, the "defund the police" team calling the police as soon as anyone dares to disagrees with them

    • @jackmaniacmusic
      @jackmaniacmusic 3 месяца назад +29

      At the time I had nothing against antifa, and there are still anti-fascist groups I approve of. But atlanta antifa portraying a bunch of losers as fascists for having an edgy get-together wasn’t cool. Targeting Raven (the organizer) wasn’t cool either. I had my disagreements with her too, but she did not deserve to be called a far-right supporter and be harassed into losing her job.

    • @adamlindfors5082
      @adamlindfors5082 3 месяца назад

      They are a bunch of brainless rtards.

    • @darksu6947
      @darksu6947 3 месяца назад +35

      ​@@jackmaniacmusicMost people that go around calling other people "far-right" would take a dooky in their britches if they ever met someone who is actually in the far-right.

    • @catsupempire3920
      @catsupempire3920 2 месяца назад

      trans rights blm acab fuck Nazis :)

    • @Roark787
      @Roark787 Месяц назад

      @@darksu6947 That's what I was thinking. Today, what these people consider "far right" are limp wristed conservatives and fence sitters that held onto beliefs that were relatively liberal like a decade ago. If you took A LEGIT NAZI from the 1930's, they'd be shitting themselves as if they're looking straight at the boogeyman.

  • @wooba4227
    @wooba4227 3 месяца назад +27

    the manosphere is hated by most people in the scene, there's literally a song called Andrew Tate is the Devil by one of the artists

    • @Roark787
      @Roark787 Месяц назад +6

      Alot of them view people like Tate and others of his ilk as grifters who just want to profit off of this very serious issue and are the main reason why society doesn't take said issues effecting their young men as seriously or get the wrong idea out of it. Which in turn will just lead to more growing bitterness and resentment from those said men as a whole.

    • @Dushmann_
      @Dushmann_ 26 дней назад +1

      I've never seen anyone say anything positive about people like Andrew Tate on r9k.

  • @Staunchie
    @Staunchie 3 месяца назад +15

    Fried by flouride is actually getting pretty popular right now

  • @bigjen8238
    @bigjen8238 3 месяца назад +61

    The reason why virginfest was out in a forest was because antifa were doing hit pieces etc, so the venue dropped it just hours before it was supposed to start

    • @pissinurmouth
      @pissinurmouth 3 месяца назад

      virginfest got fucked man cuz od many things huge disaster tho i had fun

    • @cartilagehead6326
      @cartilagehead6326 3 месяца назад +5

      lmao “antifa”

    • @o_q
      @o_q 3 месяца назад +2

      yeah he said that in the video

    • @borjaslamic
      @borjaslamic 3 месяца назад +11

      ​@@cartilagehead6326 Yeah, but it was reported by people who would and did unironically call themselves antifa, so yeah, the world's a larf.

    • @catsupempire3920
      @catsupempire3920 2 месяца назад +1

      Good 😇

  • @marlondiriche
    @marlondiriche 3 месяца назад +71

    I'm just sad for "incel" becoming a derogatory term, it just mean you want to get laid but can't usually for reasons beyond your control. Like it's 100% your fault for being one which isn't. Remind me of meritocratic discourse "you aren't a millionaire because you are lazy"

    • @catsupempire3920
      @catsupempire3920 2 месяца назад +2

      AOh come.on

    • @Mike_Oxlong07
      @Mike_Oxlong07 2 месяца назад +23

      Tbf most of the negativity is aimed at the hateful self identifying incel movement rather than the painfully lonely awkward individuals that may also identify with the term. Like all nuanced internet sub-communities the difference between individuals involved rapidly begin to blur.

    • @resonancetides7196
      @resonancetides7196 2 месяца назад +2

      Cry about it

    • @jdools4744
      @jdools4744 2 месяца назад +2

      "incel" is a made term by the media to label people they do not like and anyone that adopts it is knuckle dragging moron

    • @theccarbiter
      @theccarbiter Месяц назад

      found the incel

  • @Primo_Luca
    @Primo_Luca 3 месяца назад +38

    girl with burzum shirt at 1:36
    burzum incelcore confirmed, varg's seething

  • @user-zw4rb5wp4o
    @user-zw4rb5wp4o 3 месяца назад +47

    Antifa calling the police on some people chilling in a park playing music is fucking wild

    • @bobsbigboy_
      @bobsbigboy_ 3 месяца назад +6

      Isnt antifa against the police

    • @user-zw4rb5wp4o
      @user-zw4rb5wp4o 3 месяца назад

      @@bobsbigboy_ it's like their whole thing.. I guess all cops are bastards until you need them to put a stop to live music

    • @chrishenniker5944
      @chrishenniker5944 Месяц назад +1

      It’s very unsportsmanlike of them.

    • @Roark787
      @Roark787 Месяц назад

      @@bobsbigboy_ Only the police that won't let them do whatever they want or the ones that enforce the laws of their political opposition. They hate the police cause THEY want to be the police.

    • @Dushmann_
      @Dushmann_ 26 дней назад

      ​@@bobsbigboy_
      why would they be? antifa is pro-establishment and so are the police. leftist groups like antifa act like they're edgy rebel underdogs fighting against "the system", but THEY ARE "the system" now. It's not the 1960s anymore. Leftism is no longer the counter-culture; it's now the mainstream culture.

  • @MadDogRyan
    @MadDogRyan Месяц назад +8

    NEGATIVE XP just made a song to troll people and then incellcore was born

  • @tutubism
    @tutubism 3 месяца назад +10

    What aspects do you like or admire about the punk subculture?
    Mine are:
    - non-conformity
    - anti-corporate greed/anticorporatism
    - anti-consumerist
    - DIY ethos

  • @EasternOutlaw09
    @EasternOutlaw09 3 месяца назад +24

    At 3:26, the person he’s talking about was Eillot Roger, RUclips has nuked people’s accounts in the past for talking about him

    • @weirdwalrus5757
      @weirdwalrus5757 3 месяца назад

      ER is more famous than the incel movement bro

    • @totalcomputerdependency
      @totalcomputerdependency 3 месяца назад

      What did he do?

    • @EasternOutlaw09
      @EasternOutlaw09 3 месяца назад

      @@totalcomputerdependency killed a bunch of people at his college campus

    • @painunending4610
      @painunending4610 3 месяца назад

      ​@@totalcomputerdependencyGoogle his name man

    • @revelrem4409
      @revelrem4409 16 дней назад +1

      @@totalcomputerdependency Roger shot a place up after uploading several videos complaining about how he couldn't get laid.

  • @Internetidiot88
    @Internetidiot88 3 месяца назад +47

    Every incelcore video just goes over the same shit. I see nothing new here, nothing ever happens.

    • @j.2512
      @j.2512 3 месяца назад +15

      untalented and uncreative people need to rely solely on social media gimmicks . All zoomer music basically

    • @Sinfuldeathband
      @Sinfuldeathband 3 месяца назад +2

      I like that one song about columbine you made.

    • @steven.2602
      @steven.2602 3 месяца назад +12

      its a combination between listening to the entry-level media that only gets your feet wet, surface level research on a topic, combined with what is essentially the blind leading the blind. The end result is something you've heard before, and will probably hear again as long as incelcore still exists.
      not that it wont happen but the possibility of getting any analysis video that gives an original point of view is directly correlated with the amount of mega autists that get seriously involved and are willing to put in the effort of making a video about it. this goes for most genres of music.

    • @SirFooplesTheThird
      @SirFooplesTheThird 3 месяца назад +1

      I highly suggest other videos by coolea. Dude's talented and a great storyteller

    • @coffeecore420
      @coffeecore420 3 месяца назад

      i learned a lot. i didnt know that there's more than one incelpunk band, i thought negative windows xp was the only.

  • @tubeh3ad
    @tubeh3ad 3 месяца назад +91

    a Little bit too late lol incelcore is dead for like years

    • @cpi3267
      @cpi3267 3 месяца назад +39

      nah... it's still alive you just don't know how to look. or you got over it

    • @Skaatje
      @Skaatje 3 месяца назад

      Aahw, you finally got laid?

    • @sneed.
      @sneed. 3 месяца назад +23

      @@cpi3267he's not saying it's dead as in nobody is creating it anymore, he's saying it's dead as in all the incelcore artists are now unauthentic and zoomers have taken it over and ruined it

    • @PM-xu2nq
      @PM-xu2nq 3 месяца назад +26

      nothing’s dead, nothing’s alive, who gives a fuck music is music

    • @RadioMartyT1B
      @RadioMartyT1B 3 месяца назад

      It's nothing but 3rd world dick-riders that don't understand context or sarcasm.

  • @seanmckelvey6618
    @seanmckelvey6618 2 месяца назад +6

    I dunno, if "everyone" is in agreement that "incelcore" is terrible and bad & offensive, that would in fact make it very punk & very counterculture, not that any of these terms mean a damned thing.

  • @nathantheman5572
    @nathantheman5572 3 месяца назад +16

    15:46 lol what?
    That was released 2020 on bandcamp
    C.P.P.C. probably the most recent group project

  • @levijackson767
    @levijackson767 3 месяца назад +54

    Counterculture and cringe are not mutually exclusive. Incelcore or E-punk are certainly punk.
    lofi music with provocative social commentary focused lyrics, can't get much more punk then that. The more contrarian the better. lmao.
    The incel stuff has really expanded beyond just "not having sex", but more the emptiness and self-destructiveness of hook up culture and transactional nature of modern/online dating, It's more about the bond then the act, escortcells, volcells, femcels and passportbros are key evidence of this. It's really an over simplification to say it's only woman hating or cellabacy itself. Just an insight from a rabbit hole I went down when I first heard of "Inceldom" lol. It's certainly terminally online, but in their defense most of them spent most of their lives there. smh.

    • @nwerd7584
      @nwerd7584 3 месяца назад +1

      you can make that claim. but the redpill stuff was what shown a light on it, and lots of communities, not just incels incorporated those things in to their own ideology. The hypergamy thing was specifically studied and pointed out and experimented with by redpill folks. But its a good thing those factual observations are escaping just 1 sub culture.

    • @soyuzinstrumentales7605
      @soyuzinstrumentales7605 3 месяца назад +1

      epunk is not normal punk, punk was always left leaning music, i guess we can call it a new type of music but is not what we would consider normal punk

    • @chickenpie8016
      @chickenpie8016 3 месяца назад +12

      @@soyuzinstrumentales7605 punk was not always left leaning, however most of the famous punk bands are left leaning. In the 70s when punk was biggest a large portion of punks were nazis. This led to a long and still somewhat ongoing feud between nazi punks and the more common left leaning punks. Whilst it is correct that most punks today tend to be left leaning that was not always the case.
      If you wanna learn some more about this I’d recommend the documentary on the rock against racism movement, white riot.

    • @nwerd7584
      @nwerd7584 3 месяца назад

      @@soyuzinstrumentales7605 False, almost the whole time punks existed theres been the very large and vocal skinhead and right side of punk, that directly battled with the commie punks. The shit people talk about are the fashions bands labels made like the sex pistols.

    • @nwerd7584
      @nwerd7584 3 месяца назад +2

      @@chickenpie8016 I tried to type the same thing more or less with some more detail and YT wont let my account specifically reference that side of the genre, which I tend to do a lot. Since so many people want to white wash, er woke wash history in regards to music.

  • @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
    @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 26 дней назад +2

    I think "Doomer Punk" would be a good name in place of E-Punk and Incelcore. Jokes aside or not, I love this music it feels so isolated yet so in-your-face at the same time. I love the roughness of the production, the edgy lyrics, and the awkward hooks. As someone that showers everyday, I love this music.

  • @o_q
    @o_q 3 месяца назад +36

    incelcore mentioned !!

  • @Journey_to_who_knows
    @Journey_to_who_knows 3 месяца назад +14

    Completely missed the purpose and reasoning of it. But can’t expect much.

  • @coffeecore420
    @coffeecore420 3 месяца назад +21

    None of it is ironic, don’t believe the hype.

    • @scruffbagg
      @scruffbagg 2 месяца назад +3

      I don't think saying that none of it is ironic is stupid, some of it could be ironic, some of it is, some of it isn't

  • @Edgemaster42_
    @Edgemaster42_ 3 месяца назад +36

    It's over.

  • @rascaltuff
    @rascaltuff 3 месяца назад +19

    shoulda gave a trigger war for that close up of Fantano’s mustache 😂

  • @Junekra
    @Junekra 3 месяца назад +23

    lol was just listening to penguinband and fried by fluoride 😭

  • @DE-GEN-ART
    @DE-GEN-ART 3 месяца назад +7

    there is a band i used to listen to in the early 2000's called "waking the cadaver" a grind core band with lyrics akin to something buffalo bill would say in the silence of the lambs, but its grindcore so you cant understand the lyric anyways

  • @Magnetic-Edits
    @Magnetic-Edits Месяц назад +2

    Incelcore is the original name, Epunk is the name Negative XP wanted the genre to be renamed to, but has anyone tried incel-punk or something along those lines? The word core has become one of the most annoying words ever because "oh if its special, its a core!!" said by a random tiktok user in 2021

  • @bhante1345
    @bhante1345 3 месяца назад +5

    If it's on the internet, it's cringe.

  • @1312foreve
    @1312foreve 3 месяца назад +6

    Incelcore has been around and rather popular since 2019 you missed it it died

  • @GhostCapital
    @GhostCapital 3 месяца назад +6

    I’ve been to two incelcore fests and I can promise you the vibes are rancid. Also they’re all fakecels

    • @ChaseDaOrk3767
      @ChaseDaOrk3767 3 месяца назад

      How so?

    • @bake-io1cf
      @bake-io1cf 3 месяца назад

      duh, everytime they film it the video is full of e-girls

    • @etasjo
      @etasjo 2 месяца назад +4

      trucels dont go outside

    • @acidity2k486
      @acidity2k486 10 дней назад

      What’s the difference between a fakecel and a truecel? Educate me.

  • @walker-hw8td
    @walker-hw8td 13 дней назад +3

    i got into incelcore because i thought listening to mens criticisms of women would make me the ideal women and because i thought men were were unfairly treated by women

    • @launcherx2044
      @launcherx2044 8 дней назад

      listening to incelcore as a woman is a fastrack to the noose.

    • @NamedKid10
      @NamedKid10 2 дня назад

      Well.. I guess.. lol. I respect it

    • @Zed-Man-Dead-Man
      @Zed-Man-Dead-Man День назад

      Pick me

  • @ledonutqc9250
    @ledonutqc9250 3 месяца назад +4

    Ignorant guide to french punk next pls. Great vid btw

  • @TravellingCultivator
    @TravellingCultivator 3 месяца назад +14

    Finally, the supreme genre review!

  • @taxevasion4870
    @taxevasion4870 3 месяца назад +6

    I've never liked the 'incel' ideology but I've listened to negative xp and co. for years. Honestly most of the songs are just about being lonely or whatever, no politics or shit.

  • @acidity2k486
    @acidity2k486 10 дней назад +1

    If it’s ok to insult men for just being men then the same should be true for women as well. Either everything is ok, or nothing is.

  • @user-np3wo9en1f
    @user-np3wo9en1f 3 месяца назад +7

    I’d argue incel-core/Epunk aren’t punk because they are using their platform to already beat down a disenfranchised group of people.
    Honestly if you remove the electric guitars you get just weird folk punk.
    Also Negative XP’s music just kinda sounds like shit and even has less effort than early Ramones.

    • @KacyK16
      @KacyK16 3 месяца назад +4

      It's shitty but the sound itself is good.
      It just sucks whenever ppl feel like they are counter culture by being against anything.
      Calling incelcore punk is like me going to a Christopher Street Day and screaming homophobic slurs while thinking this makes me a rebel.

    • @user-np3wo9en1f
      @user-np3wo9en1f 3 месяца назад +1

      @@KacyK16 If anything man, Incelcore is the least punk and Queercore is the most. Listen to Limp Wrist, their shit rocks

    • @KacyK16
      @KacyK16 3 месяца назад

      @@user-np3wo9en1f yeah, love them and I actually make some queercore myself so I couldn't agree more.
      Queers making punk is always awesome!

  • @lachlan1462
    @lachlan1462 2 месяца назад +3

    this is mega autistic but just wanna clarify the manson murder tapes wasnt a revival attempt at all it was release before msg4 and the unofficial msg5 without nxp. even then their are many comp albums like cppc, psych ward, dethrow, terminal rockaholics, tech club, trve kvlt(technically not after the whole trvekvltneofolkabilly thing) ect. its kinda just collaborative work and so smaller artist can get there name out

  • @hatercentral88
    @hatercentral88 Месяц назад +3

    bro fr put my art in the video 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Dunge0n
    @Dunge0n 13 дней назад +1

    "There's a deeply Semitic influence in the press. It is Semitic and I am sure of it." -Patton, post-WWII

  • @akyo_zynk
    @akyo_zynk 3 месяца назад +10

    I think that incelcore was and should have been in the right side of history whenever something stands up against the status quo so loudly that heavy censorship starts to appear, is because that something struck the nail's head

    • @acidity2k486
      @acidity2k486 10 дней назад

      Who said it was on the wrong side?

    • @Fuckalope-cm5dk
      @Fuckalope-cm5dk 7 дней назад

      Thats fucking retarded. So anyone is automatically right if most people dont agree with it. Thats so retarded

  • @taxevasion4870
    @taxevasion4870 3 месяца назад +7

    It's also sad, but fitting, that some woman drama destroyed the scene

  • @Ducko928
    @Ducko928 3 месяца назад +4

    Coolea looked a bit better in the other video but hes still lookin okay
    He just looks tired

  • @__-be1gk
    @__-be1gk 3 месяца назад +3

    "There must be mroe to incelcore than hating women through lyricism" Clueless

  • @Sealman4958
    @Sealman4958 3 месяца назад +11

    Gezebelle gaburgably is well worth a listen. Her albums keep getting better and better. Another good one you didn't mention that is loosely related is Pacific Purgatory.

    • @pissinurmouth
      @pissinurmouth 3 месяца назад

      both r based but we r fucked now

    • @layme2rest
      @layme2rest 3 месяца назад

      i love pax their stuff is so good

  • @freedomfaction4737
    @freedomfaction4737 3 месяца назад +4

    Bros if yall missed Southern Skum you’re ngmi

  • @j0habba
    @j0habba 22 дня назад +1

    internet is making too genre/catergories, connected too many lonely people to make dissapated sense of community. but i know nothing, im logging off.

  • @dievleisboom332
    @dievleisboom332 12 дней назад +1

    Fried by Fluoride is the artist that got me into the genre and is still by far my favourite. His music doesn't have a lot of misogyny tied to it and is mostly about self loathing and being a doomer. Weirdly enough, I don't really like any of Negative XP's songs, even though he was kind of the "creator" of the genre. Also the fact that Antifa decided to try and shutdown an expression of art about ideas they may not like is fucking hilarious.

  • @GreekYogourt
    @GreekYogourt Месяц назад +5

    we need to gatekeep again i think

    • @arbysburger
      @arbysburger 11 дней назад

      genres been dead bro, only ppl still releasing good music r gjallarhornit and dethtech

  • @Nekrist666
    @Nekrist666 3 месяца назад +6

    I thought Black Metal was already incelcore by now.

    • @jcanal0221
      @jcanal0221 3 месяца назад +2

      It pretty much is

    • @Nekrist666
      @Nekrist666 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jcanal0221I can confirm .

  • @isaacmontoya9636
    @isaacmontoya9636 2 месяца назад +1

    That’s pretty awesome actually, an Antifa spied and didn’t find any white supremacists, just a peace loving song to the Po Po 😂

  • @Bismark1815
    @Bismark1815 3 месяца назад +2

    4:24 to my knowledge this marks the second mention of Pinkerton and the fourth mention of weezer in general on this channel

  • @auslegungssache
    @auslegungssache 3 месяца назад +3

    your videos got so much more brainrot its crazy

  • @jashonlowry7442
    @jashonlowry7442 3 месяца назад +4

    When is goonercore

  • @GutterJon
    @GutterJon 3 месяца назад +2

    It all started with the God damn Ramones capitalizing off a fucking label

  • @aquawarhead53
    @aquawarhead53 3 месяца назад +1

    Though you had some facts, times, and events mixed up or incorrect, overall good video. As someone who was there and slightly involved at the height of the “scene”, it’s interesting seeing what has come of it both on the inside and out.

  • @GR-od1tp
    @GR-od1tp 3 месяца назад +3

    Rip ER

  • @PossumEnjoyer420
    @PossumEnjoyer420 3 месяца назад +11

    Incelcore, Epunk, Bedroom Punk, whatever it's called, its raw, I like it :)

  • @Justjustinp
    @Justjustinp 11 дней назад +1

    Keep in mind, there are an equal number of girl incels as guy incels. Cause if male/female rates are 50/50, assuming there are about an equal number of gay men as lesbian women, there are just as many virgin women as men. I’ve also seen just as many women complaining about men as men complaining about women. And I think both are cringe and incel behavior.

    • @acidity2k486
      @acidity2k486 10 дней назад

      If it was that simple then it wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.

    • @Justjustinp
      @Justjustinp 10 дней назад

      @@acidity2k486 the issue is that guys who have never been in a relationship and girls who have never been in a relationship go online and see someone talking shit about the other gender without having been with someone themselves and then they make that their whole personality. This happens equally to both girls and guys.

    • @acidity2k486
      @acidity2k486 10 дней назад

      @@Justjustinp lmao where are these specific girls then? It’s mostly a sausage fest. This is a genuine question.

    • @launcherx2044
      @launcherx2044 8 дней назад

      ​@@acidity2k486 crystal cafe lol incels and femcels are made for eachother but can't stand the other.

    • @Zed-Man-Dead-Man
      @Zed-Man-Dead-Man День назад

      @@acidity2k486you haven’t been seeing them? Like I get that it mostly male dominated but there’s plenty foids and chuds man.

  • @cristalido3640
    @cristalido3640 День назад

    People don't realize that this genre is gaining traction beyond the memes because their lyrics actually criticise the social conditions and modern internet culture that caused these men to end up lonely in the first place, not to mention that the stigma attached to the I word makes it a far more offensive genre than calling itself Punk, which is something mainstream media and culture only ever found controversial in the late seventies and early eighties... Also, there's no songs about hating women, the Scott Pilgrim track was ironic and it even has its male counterpart by the same artist.

    • @Popceto
      @Popceto 17 часов назад

      aint nobody reading this lmao

  • @tobios89p13
    @tobios89p13 Месяц назад +3

    "Dethtech" is an incelcore creator and he has great Production quality.

  • @dionysius4353
    @dionysius4353 3 месяца назад +8

    Finally a video on this subject. Everyone should check out Fried by Fluoride, NEET, and Penguinband if you like any of this music

  • @-k-b-
    @-k-b- 3 месяца назад +1

    You did a great job describing this genre considering I literally never heard of it lol. Always thought it was just a meme not an actual music movement

    • @BeanFan999
      @BeanFan999 3 месяца назад +6

      As a person who is into this type of music, coolea represented us very shittily and spread misinformation

    • @StanTorrent
      @StanTorrent 3 месяца назад

      @@BeanFan999Mate, the music is just shit.

    • @Gameinger16
      @Gameinger16 3 месяца назад

      @@BeanFan999 Its no surprise, he was trying to get someone on /r/epunk to regurgitate the scenes history because he's too lazy to actually do the work himself, then just insulted us with "STINKY FAT INKWELL NECKBEARD LOLLLL". As if we're happy that the only place to discuss the scene is reddit and groomercord.

  • @TheSteelDragonG
    @TheSteelDragonG 2 месяца назад +2

    If you can "play" a guitar, how are you not laid?

  • @nathantheman5572
    @nathantheman5572 3 месяца назад +15

    Incelcore is punk

  • @Vesspix
    @Vesspix 3 месяца назад +3

    Hey coolea, I love your videos and subbed on the hippie one, but I’ve just noticed that I was unsubscribed. Idk why, I never unsubbed. Maybe ask other viewers if they’ve had similar things happen. Another creator I watch has mentioned this issue. Either way, love the videos and thanks for all the information and entertainment!

    • @ChaseDaOrk3767
      @ChaseDaOrk3767 3 месяца назад +1

      I noticed you have the Blood Angels symbol on your profile pic, are you a 40k fan aswell?

    • @Vesspix
      @Vesspix 3 месяца назад

      @@ChaseDaOrk3767 yeah, I’ve been playing since the end of 6th, got into it when I was little. What do you play?

  • @Thischannelisdicontinued
    @Thischannelisdicontinued 3 месяца назад +4

    This is all fantanos fault

  • @nickvashlesh8661
    @nickvashlesh8661 3 месяца назад +12

    incelcore is fire

  • @martinberger3989
    @martinberger3989 3 месяца назад +3

    incelcore is fuckin insane tho

  • @beanward_xd527
    @beanward_xd527 3 месяца назад +5

    The irony of a group calling themselves anti facist then trying to use state power to shut down art they dont like will never be lost on me

  • @jacobbuckingham5626
    @jacobbuckingham5626 3 месяца назад +2

    11:27 girl's at virginfest with a Burzum shirt, she's the one boys

  • @DeadpoolX9
    @DeadpoolX9 11 дней назад

    Did Antifa just cancel music?
    ZERO SEATS
    FUCKING ZERO SEATS

  • @Godiswatching73
    @Godiswatching73 3 месяца назад +7

    British nerd cashing in on an ancient topic

  • @BreakingBreadcrumbs
    @BreakingBreadcrumbs 3 месяца назад +3

    You must have been the one posting bait on the sub.

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams 3 месяца назад +1

    The band NEET seems a little bit more benign. It is the sort of self-hatred stuff, and self loathing stuff...seems unhealthy too.

  • @NamedKid10
    @NamedKid10 2 дня назад +1

    I really like Lil Watermark you should listen to his stuff

  • @angelv2598
    @angelv2598 3 месяца назад +3

    I don’t have a musical opinion on this, but any dude who blames women needs help. And I’ve also worked with girls at jobs who fit that bill too when they just make a blanket statement about how much they hate men and has a problem with them literally just existing 😂