So cool seeing another person brew nashi. There’s actually more than just the reanimate there’s all three of the enchantment ones so you can “draw” them off of nashi hitting. You’re also able to do a doomsday pile with animate dead thoracle and three other cards where you can mill thoracle and get the reanimation spell from him connecting
Meanwhile, at my LGS there's a father/son group that always end up in pods together and constantly help each other win. Case in point, last week the son counterspelled a person's Rhystic Study when that person only had one card in hand, but did not counterspell his father's Necropotence cast just before the Rhystic player's turn.
@@fitnesshunter6302 if they had a friend in bracket in pools at the same table one of yall should win and move on. Like that's just homie rules my man.
I'm new to cEDH and trying to navigate through it all. I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos because they have been helpful. I am actually trying to build the new Storm, Force of Nature as a cEDH deck. I actually managed to get her secret lair!
Saw in half enables loops with endurance or ewit post infinite mana and also has the value interaction with ewit of pay 2B get a card from graveyard and a 1/1 body (don't really know if that's why it's in the list though)
At first GZ Ian. Just to watch out the Sissay (Chatterfang / Soultrader Line). Just these two on board no Mana available from other sources: Then the minimum I calculate = 17 life. Does someone have a way to do it with less? 3 life to get Sissay out. 5 life tutor Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler, 5 life tutor Bloom Tender, 3 life + 2 Mana from Bloom Tender tutor Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God, untap Bloom Tender with Tyvar, tutor Emiel the Blessed untap Bloom Tender with Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God for infinite Mana (Bloom/Emil Line) and do your stuff. 3+5+5+3=16
That dualcaster is actually super spicy in samut. Kiki + dualcaster + emerald charm is an infinite dualcaster (+Haste) set up without those mostly dead duplication spells now. it also doesnt force an ordering. you can just drop a dualcaster into anything and still have it function later.
also legolas's quick reflexes to untap the kiki tin response flash in dualcaster for infinite untaps with kiki and damage from tapping him to make another dualcaster
I was one of the kinnan players that didn't make the cut I have been messing around with things and I was thinking about taking out endurance as it felt dead a lot of the time for me. What makes it so great I see a lot of people talking highly about it
To hear you mention that Pollywog was on the fence because you catered hands too heavily to it is super reassuring, because I've been feeling the same thing. Cool to hear you talk about Sphinx. Love that people are trying new stuff out.
The shorekai was there when I was testing unwinding clock which seemed underwhelming. Kept it there to draw cards during grindy games but overall will be cut for either verity circle or another hate piece.
Enduring Vitality is great Ian and now that you're running it, can you spare a moment to hear about our lord and savior HORSESHOE CRAB? This guy Kinnan and EV is infinite simic mana, and you can just flip into both, and if you only have kinnan + Crab you can instant speed tutor EV and win on the stack! EMBRACE THE CRAB IAN
Have you ever thought about Morphling in Kinnan? If you're running enduring vitality and thinking about cryptolith rite it goes infinite and can protect itself. And can be a moderate flying beater or blocker.
Love to see it!! I also pilot a mean kinnan deck. Can only afford one solid Cedh deck at the moment and Kinnan was my BEST shot and doing that. It’s my most expensive deck, with all real cards and no proxies currently. But as you guessed it, NO Gaea’s cradle. At least not yet.
@ComedIanMTG that it does. Doesn't seem the best, tho. To be fair tho I'm not the one jamming tournaments. Lol. Congrats on the win. I've been trying to get to a foil cradle for a while now.
You get a Foil AND a Gaea’s cradle??? Wow! Congrats! A free counterspell AND a cool land!!!
In Magda, Tarnished Citadel and a few other lands are only there to pay for Warping wails colorless cost.
So cool seeing another person brew nashi. There’s actually more than just the reanimate there’s all three of the enchantment ones so you can “draw” them off of nashi hitting. You’re also able to do a doomsday pile with animate dead thoracle and three other cards where you can mill thoracle and get the reanimation spell from him connecting
Congratulations Ian I'm happy to see you Won!!!!
Congrats man! I convinced that you are the goat of the format, all the best from brazil, brother
Meanwhile, at my LGS there's a father/son group that always end up in pods together and constantly help each other win. Case in point, last week the son counterspelled a person's Rhystic Study when that person only had one card in hand, but did not counterspell his father's Necropotence cast just before the Rhystic player's turn.
I mean I don't see what's wrong with this? Is there something in the rules against this?
@@fitnesshunter6302 if they had a friend in bracket in pools at the same table one of yall should win and move on. Like that's just homie rules my man.
Hell yeah! Well done man! Grats!
I'm new to cEDH and trying to navigate through it all. I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos because they have been helpful. I am actually trying to build the new Storm, Force of Nature as a cEDH deck. I actually managed to get her secret lair!
Saw in half enables loops with endurance or ewit post infinite mana and also has the value interaction with ewit of pay 2B get a card from graveyard and a 1/1 body (don't really know if that's why it's in the list though)
At first GZ Ian. Just to watch out the Sissay (Chatterfang / Soultrader Line). Just these two on board no Mana available from other sources: Then the minimum I calculate = 17 life. Does someone have a way to do it with less?
3 life to get Sissay out. 5 life tutor Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler, 5 life tutor Bloom Tender, 3 life + 2 Mana from Bloom Tender tutor Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God, untap Bloom Tender with Tyvar, tutor Emiel the Blessed untap Bloom Tender with Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God for infinite Mana (Bloom/Emil Line) and do your stuff. 3+5+5+3=16
That dualcaster is actually super spicy in samut. Kiki + dualcaster + emerald charm is an infinite dualcaster (+Haste) set up without those mostly dead duplication spells now. it also doesnt force an ordering. you can just drop a dualcaster into anything and still have it function later.
also legolas's quick reflexes to untap the kiki tin response flash in dualcaster for infinite untaps with kiki and damage from tapping him to make another dualcaster
@thestrugglingchef30 reread split second.
Good Job Ian that was a tough last pod
I was one of the kinnan players that didn't make the cut I have been messing around with things and I was thinking about taking out endurance as it felt dead a lot of the time for me. What makes it so great I see a lot of people talking highly about it
for me I never adore the card but in here it enables a lot of the instant speed looping post-infinite mana
To hear you mention that Pollywog was on the fence because you catered hands too heavily to it is super reassuring, because I've been feeling the same thing. Cool to hear you talk about Sphinx. Love that people are trying new stuff out.
Long time malcolm kediss player. Love that they are back up there!!
America really needs to start counting draws as losses.
Nice!
I was wondering who had won.
Congrats Ian.
The shorekai was there when I was testing unwinding clock which seemed underwhelming. Kept it there to draw cards during grindy games but overall will be cut for either verity circle or another hate piece.
You're the best :)
GG's bud and amazing run!
Enduring Vitality is great Ian and now that you're running it, can you spare a moment to hear about our lord and savior HORSESHOE CRAB? This guy Kinnan and EV is infinite simic mana, and you can just flip into both, and if you only have kinnan + Crab you can instant speed tutor EV and win on the stack! EMBRACE THE CRAB IAN
Nice dude! Grats! ❤❤❤
Have you ever thought about Morphling in Kinnan? If you're running enduring vitality and thinking about cryptolith rite it goes infinite and can protect itself. And can be a moderate flying beater or blocker.
Congratulations!
Thanks for the hour of distraction on this totally uneventful day.
The background commanders are underexplored. Scramble Reality is a cool card that can be used to turn a nothing background into a splinter twin.
What are your thoughts on the new Koma and 7 drop eldrazi that are coming in Foundations? Will they have a home in Kinnan?
@@RustySh4ckelfrd Koma has the most chance of the 2 but realistically neither will likely stick
Kinnan is an old pet deck and I loved that one as my favorite 😊
The Goat 🐐
Well deserved. Was waiting for this top16 breakdown since I saw the results on top16.
Why dont you play Alchemists Refuge instead of emergence zone?
Outro song was heat! Anyone know the name of it?
KINNAN BEST DECK LET'S GOOOOO
Before watching, i really wanna know if that sphinx did good
Certainly not a card i expected to see after its initial reception way back
I kinda feel like marath + zirda MIGHT be a better combo for naya midrange, but idk if dranith and sentinel are worth it for 6 one-card-combos
So sad to see tnk not make it to this top 16, wonder if I should hand up that deck, deconstruct it for rog sai or tnt? Already have kinna built too 😢
It won a tournament the week before, tbh I would not be worried about it
@ thanks for the reinforcement bro bro
Can you win a tournament without using a top tier deck?
a turny with no Ufarm seems crazy to me
Isn’t Cradle a RL card and they did not do foil printings back then so how did you get a foil cradle?
Judge promos back in the day were the exception. Folks didn't like the loophole so they have since stopped
It’s a judge promo foil
holy shit guys he got a haircut
Could’ve been two Gaeas Cradles if you did the Midwest Mash also 😂😜
wait marven gives haste?
Ioreth works with Marvin too right??
it does!
Love to see it!!
I also pilot a mean kinnan deck. Can only afford one solid Cedh deck at the moment and Kinnan was my BEST shot and doing that. It’s my most expensive deck, with all real cards and no proxies currently. But as you guessed it, NO Gaea’s cradle. At least not yet.
Are cedh tournaments proxy friendly?
depends .. sanctioned events are nit but otherwise depends on the store/event and many times can be
Almost always
Huge Grats from Australia Ian well done man!
Michael Jordan of cEDH and imo one of the greatest Magic players of all time.
So weird rules, but relic of legends doesn't work with kinnan. Kinnan cares about the actual tap symbol being given to the creature.
the relic itself does add 2 :)
@ComedIanMTG that it does. Doesn't seem the best, tho. To be fair tho I'm not the one jamming tournaments. Lol. Congrats on the win. I've been trying to get to a foil cradle for a while now.