I was a PGA class A head professional for 14 years. I had the best of everything from perfectly fitted equipment, to state of the art video equipment, to coaching sessions from the best teachers in the game. No one loved the game more or worked harder to improve as a player. I gradually wrecked my ability to strike the ball and play the game to my potential. As a result, I quit the profession and the game and moved on to be successful somewhere else. But I never stopped thinking about the swing. Martin Ayers has figured out how to explain to people how to open the door. This is the truth. It is this simple. You can see it in all the best players. I'm once again striking the ball as well as I'm capable of. The joy and passion for the game that I had as a 13 year old is returning. My swing doesn't suddenly vanish from one day to the next like it used to, because it wasn't really a swing. Now, I'm going to hit this ball at that target. I'm going to hit this ball at that target... SO FUN!
Been golfing for 6 years. Every few weeks I found it then lose it again the next few weeks. Rinse and repeat. Well ...years number 7, I finally found it and able to hold on to it. LMAO. It is based on Mike Bender teaching. To be more precise one of his pupil by the RUclips name "korean pro golfer Heo". Korean instructor with good English subtitle. I am telling u guys.. give this kid a view. He will clear up all the confusing instructions on youtube. The gist of it is : if u start the downswing with the shoulders, u will end up slicing. Instead begins with arms first while the shoulders remain turned. Anyway... I hope u guys play better golf this year. LMAO...
Good job on the pole vaulting video, I think something clicked for me there:). I wonder if these concepts can help explain how/why I can swing my 8 iron at avg pga speeds but my driver is 15 to 20 mph slower? Something in my mechanics isn't efficient at dealing with the club and my swing can't overcome that when the club is longer and has more effect on me?
This is super cool and something that clicked for me in a recent medal because my body was stiff after a workout, so I naturally started getting the most out of my club in order to hit it my usual distance. Brendon, I know you have pre-recorded all of these, however I was wondering how Martin conceptualises controlling the face or hitting different shots? Is that something you guys discussed? I have listened to him talk a lot about dynamics and I am wondering if he perhaps conceptualises face control as working as the result of good dynamics, or alternatively, by a conscious thought of some kind. I find a lot of what he says useful to implement but if I start hitting it well but losing the ball sideways - it can be hard to fully commit to.
The quote by Ben Hogan, "Reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite of what you are inclined to do, and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing,"
Yes. The natural inclination is to move the club, to move the ball. Instead of interacting with it (which is what good golfers do.) Which is exactly what this video is about. Go find the worst golfer you can on the range and watch their effort to move the ball, as opposed to strike it. Watch them move the club as opposed to swing it.
Definitely a rabbit hole with Martin, but that’s why this a great channel- thank you. I doubt this is original, but I came up with this a little while ago- swing something light like it’s heavy. One of the results should be speed (like picking up a light cup you thought was heavy). I think children do this more naturally because the club is kinda heavy for them- the ones that figure it out go on to be life long good golfers. Teaching an adult the game is a different story. That will be my specialty once I figure it out, ha ha
Great content. I find it is easier to do this with a driver because of the length of the club. Should I be trying to do this with even my wedges? I notice I have trouble letting the club take over when I have 8 iron or less in my hand.
I personally wouldn't want any psychedelics before my lesson, but you do you. I'm playing, but , seriously, I do think he definitely has some good golf instruction.
For everybody struggling with what Martin is discussing..... pair his words with Dr. Kwon practice. I've been watching a ton of Dr. Kwon's latest lessons, and have started practicing heavily with a rope. THEY ARE SAYING THE SAME THING! Martin is kinda esoteric and hard to understand at times, and Dr Kwon gives the perfect drills and practice to put this theory directly into practice. It didn't make sense to me until I physically started swinging a rope every night and it now makes sense.
Not the same. There are important distinctions. But I do agree that he has some good drills that would help people…up to a point. I’m explaining something different to what most people believe and understand. That does not make something esoteric.
I really enjoy your delving in to so many well regarded coaches. Something he says may be what triggers an epiphany for someone- same as the other teachers you’ve featured. But honestly, I’ve followed him for a long time. I even bought his video he produced with Elk. But I always get the feeling he intentionally withholds so as not to give it away for free. Alas, in the end, it’s a big ole salad bowel of words.
Hammer throw. Put energy into the system to get it moving, resist it enough to keep it contained but moving with speed, stay out of it’s way and direct it. Seriously, just spin a heavy weight above your head while staying in place and feel how the body moves to counter that thing. The illusion people struggle with is when they address a ball and think they’re no longer spinning something heavy about themselves. That golf club weighs an awful lot once you put it in motion.
@@BEBETTERGOLF this is all just my humble opinion... ...we see the arc shrink on the way down because we create an angle on takeaway.... Some people say maintain the angle... I prefer radius...as trying to maintain the angle can lock up the wrists and arms....etc. The club Must swing... "holding" the angle can dissuade a swinging motion... Maintaining the radius of the distance of handle in relation to the body (mainly crotch area), is more where I'm going. One issue for me is early extension, If the hips collapse and the club gets stuck, the radius has collapsed even though the arc might shrink or expand ( in an over the top action) My issue is I'm small and have always tried to "create" power by creating a wide arc in takeaway. This leads to the club moving "past" a radial point...IE, not swinging. just moving.
Yeah, if you are going to stay ahead of the momentum of the golf club and help it transition, you have to sit a little bit to counteract the force of the golf club, wanting to fly out of your hands. You see tiger do that and that face on slow motion.
The best image is the Colin Morikowa slow motion transfer at the top... The depth and lowering of the clubhead in that sequence is something I've been working on over the winter, and has helped my swing immensely! People need to copy that move and try to incorporate it in their swing, sight unseen
Hockey players create a lot of bend in their sticks by hitting several inches behind the puck and sliding the stick through the puck, perhaps we should be making the divot behind the ball in the same manner.
I've never heard so many useless words about the golf swing. This would never be helpful to get the ball in the hole in the fewest possible strokes for me. No offence to anyone that finds it useful, this is just my opinion.
I think Ayres sees what he's talking about but hasn't yet figured out the best way to talk about it. There are a lot of things we do with our bodies that we're completely clueless about how they happen (monitoring CO2 levels in our blood, keeping our hearts beating, turning everything we eat into poop, etc.). Because most of us can only run one action consciously at a time, and the golf swing is a series of actions that occur too quickly for most of us to control consciously, we need the simplest, non-linear cue that organizes all the germane, sub-consciously controlled actions into an effective swing. When someone asks you to "pass the butter", you don't think about which fingers on which hand to use (unless you're high😏). You just pass the butter. I think what Ayres is trying to do is get people away from trying to figure out what their glute medius is doing at P3 and, instead, get them thinking externally about the object they're trying to hit and the tool with which they're trying to hit it.
Speak for yourself... Some people enjoy talking golf in a philosophical sense rather than caveman "see ball hit ball" or trackman, Dave Pelz terms. I like Ayers style
All good players inc those at my club lower than my 5 hcp learnt as weak kids ie the club felt heavy, most golfers learnt as adult males who have strong arms that whip the club away then the club gets relatively heavy in transition
I kind of agree. I think as a strong male i should be able to hit the ball further than i do so i use my mass and bigger muscles to over power the club which gets it out of sequence. I hit it best when i feel like im doing less and letting the club swing. One thing that seems to have helped me recently is trying to put speed into the downswing earlier than i have previously. It feels like casting the club but the body turn keeps the hands in front of the club head at impact.
Golf is difficult to express verbally and visually, i think state your and show your idea in a swing both regular speed ,half speed and slo motion From several angles if a person watched that enough times you can finally see . I went to the players a couple times and watching practicing and rounds i could see a pattern a purpose. Video is good if shown from many angles and speed but watching 130 of the best players that score from anywhere is phenomenal.
@@shibazzmcgurk5354 an instructor can give verbal instructions to ten students not all will understand it until a different set of words resonates with them.
@@ag358 if they are not clearly identifying the task then you would certainty keep describing what to attempt to do in all kinds of different ways i suppose. WHAT is the task?
I was a PGA class A head professional for 14 years. I had the best of everything from perfectly fitted equipment, to state of the art video equipment, to coaching sessions from the best teachers in the game. No one loved the game more or worked harder to improve as a player. I gradually wrecked my ability to strike the ball and play the game to my potential. As a result, I quit the profession and the game and moved on to be successful somewhere else. But I never stopped thinking about the swing.
Martin Ayers has figured out how to explain to people how to open the door. This is the truth. It is this simple. You can see it in all the best players. I'm once again striking the ball as well as I'm capable of. The joy and passion for the game that I had as a 13 year old is returning. My swing doesn't suddenly vanish from one day to the next like it used to, because it wasn't really a swing. Now, I'm going to hit this ball at that target. I'm going to hit this ball at that target... SO FUN!
Awesome to hear. That’s what it’s all about.
"fellas, you're talking trigonometry and it's only arithmetic” -Sam Snead
Been golfing for 6 years. Every few weeks I found it then lose it again the next few weeks. Rinse and repeat. Well ...years number 7, I finally found it and able to hold on to it. LMAO. It is based on Mike Bender teaching. To be more precise one of his pupil by the RUclips name "korean pro golfer Heo". Korean instructor with good English subtitle. I am telling u guys.. give this kid a view. He will clear up all the confusing instructions on youtube. The gist of it is : if u start the downswing with the shoulders, u will end up slicing. Instead begins with arms first while the shoulders remain turned. Anyway... I hope u guys play better golf this year. LMAO...
@@bomogo1840 search for "I'm sorry fellow colleagues, I'm revealing it ALL.. Lesson on the way Golflesson Pro Golfer Heo"
Good job on the pole vaulting video, I think something clicked for me there:). I wonder if these concepts can help explain how/why I can swing my 8 iron at avg pga speeds but my driver is 15 to 20 mph slower? Something in my mechanics isn't efficient at dealing with the club and my swing can't overcome that when the club is longer and has more effect on me?
This is super cool and something that clicked for me in a recent medal because my body was stiff after a workout, so I naturally started getting the most out of my club in order to hit it my usual distance. Brendon, I know you have pre-recorded all of these, however I was wondering how Martin conceptualises controlling the face or hitting different shots? Is that something you guys discussed? I have listened to him talk a lot about dynamics and I am wondering if he perhaps conceptualises face control as working as the result of good dynamics, or alternatively, by a conscious thought of some kind. I find a lot of what he says useful to implement but if I start hitting it well but losing the ball sideways - it can be hard to fully commit to.
The quote by Ben Hogan, "Reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite of what you are inclined to do, and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing,"
Yes. The natural inclination is to move the club, to move the ball. Instead of interacting with it (which is what good golfers do.) Which is exactly what this video is about.
Go find the worst golfer you can on the range and watch their effort to move the ball, as opposed to strike it. Watch them move the club as opposed to swing it.
Definitely a rabbit hole with Martin, but that’s why this a great channel- thank you. I doubt this is original, but I came up with this a little while ago- swing something light like it’s heavy. One of the results should be speed (like picking up a light cup you thought was heavy). I think children do this more naturally because the club is kinda heavy for them- the ones that figure it out go on to be life long good golfers. Teaching an adult the game is a different story. That will be my specialty once I figure it out, ha ha
Awesome!
Great content. I find it is easier to do this with a driver because of the length of the club. Should I be trying to do this with even my wedges? I notice I have trouble letting the club take over when I have 8 iron or less in my hand.
I personally wouldn't want any psychedelics before my lesson, but you do you. I'm playing, but , seriously, I do think he definitely has some good golf instruction.
For everybody struggling with what Martin is discussing..... pair his words with Dr. Kwon practice. I've been watching a ton of Dr. Kwon's latest lessons, and have started practicing heavily with a rope. THEY ARE SAYING THE SAME THING! Martin is kinda esoteric and hard to understand at times, and Dr Kwon gives the perfect drills and practice to put this theory directly into practice. It didn't make sense to me until I physically started swinging a rope every night and it now makes sense.
Not the same. There are important distinctions. But I do agree that he has some good drills that would help people…up to a point.
I’m explaining something different to what most people believe and understand. That does not make something esoteric.
I really enjoy your delving in to so many well regarded coaches. Something he says may be what triggers an epiphany for someone- same as the other teachers you’ve featured. But honestly, I’ve followed him for a long time. I even bought his video he produced with Elk. But I always get the feeling he intentionally withholds so as not to give it away for free. Alas, in the end, it’s a big ole salad bowel of words.
@6:16 might just be the best thing I've ever seen on your channel.😏
Use the weight and momentum of the club...just like splitting wood with an heavy axe.
Great selection of pole vaulters. You should have them on your channel sometime!
I will soon. Have to ask Rickie’s wife.
Hammer throw. Put energy into the system to get it moving, resist it enough to keep it contained but moving with speed, stay out of it’s way and direct it. Seriously, just spin a heavy weight above your head while staying in place and feel how the body moves to counter that thing. The illusion people struggle with is when they address a ball and think they’re no longer spinning something heavy about themselves. That golf club weighs an awful lot once you put it in motion.
Consistent radius creates Consistent contact...swing the weight on a radius.
Maintain the radius
Doesn’t the radius have to go from wide to narrow to wide again to create speed tho?
@@BEBETTERGOLF this is all just my humble opinion...
...we see the arc shrink on the way down because we create an angle on takeaway....
Some people say maintain the angle...
I prefer radius...as trying to maintain the angle can lock up the wrists and arms....etc.
The club Must swing...
"holding" the angle can dissuade a swinging motion...
Maintaining the radius of the distance of handle in relation to the body (mainly crotch area), is more where I'm going.
One issue for me is early extension, If the hips collapse and the club gets stuck, the radius has collapsed even though the arc might shrink or expand ( in an over the top action)
My issue is I'm small and have always tried to "create" power by creating a wide arc in takeaway.
This leads to the club moving "past" a radial point...IE, not swinging. just moving.
Martin embodies the entertainer/hypnotist who takes you to a place where you might find something useful.
This question may be ahead of topics but i remember you had a sit down move. Could you demonstrate that. How to do it?
Yeah, if you are going to stay ahead of the momentum of the golf club and help it transition, you have to sit a little bit to counteract the force of the golf club, wanting to fly out of your hands. You see tiger do that and that face on slow motion.
So i sit on my back foot? So my butt go to the right? Or just straight down?
Was all excited to see a possible new prospective on the swing video.Sadly, after 30 seconds it was this shit again
Agreed.
The best image is the Colin Morikowa slow motion transfer at the top...
The depth and lowering of the clubhead in that sequence is something I've been working on over the winter, and has helped my swing immensely!
People need to copy that move and try to incorporate it in their swing, sight unseen
Next?
Hockey players create a lot of bend in their sticks by hitting several inches behind the puck and sliding the stick through the puck, perhaps we should be making the divot behind the ball in the same manner.
I've never heard so many useless words about the golf swing. This would never be helpful to get the ball in the hole in the fewest possible strokes for me. No offence to anyone that finds it useful, this is just my opinion.
I think Ayres sees what he's talking about but hasn't yet figured out the best way to talk about it. There are a lot of things we do with our bodies that we're completely clueless about how they happen (monitoring CO2 levels in our blood, keeping our hearts beating, turning everything we eat into poop, etc.). Because most of us can only run one action consciously at a time, and the golf swing is a series of actions that occur too quickly for most of us to control consciously, we need the simplest, non-linear cue that organizes all the germane, sub-consciously controlled actions into an effective swing.
When someone asks you to "pass the butter", you don't think about which fingers on which hand to use (unless you're high😏). You just pass the butter. I think what Ayres is trying to do is get people away from trying to figure out what their glute medius is doing at P3 and, instead, get them thinking externally about the object they're trying to hit and the tool with which they're trying to hit it.
I scored 68 yesterday, using pole vault poles instead of golf clubs, best tip ever, just gotta find a big enough golf bag, now.
@@SaintKimboDon't they make junior vaulting poles?🤔 (Or, at least, senior vaulting poles...)
Speak for yourself...
Some people enjoy talking golf in a philosophical sense rather than caveman "see ball hit ball" or trackman, Dave Pelz terms.
I like Ayers style
All these responses are great! I did get a good chuckle out of imagining the pole vaults :)
There is only $$$$ in students that think they are 'broken.'
All good players inc those at my club lower than my 5 hcp learnt as weak kids ie the club felt heavy,
most golfers learnt as adult males who have strong arms that whip the club away then the club gets relatively heavy in transition
I kind of agree. I think as a strong male i should be able to hit the ball further than i do so i use my mass and bigger muscles to over power the club which gets it out of sequence. I hit it best when i feel like im doing less and letting the club swing. One thing that seems to have helped me recently is trying to put speed into the downswing earlier than i have previously. It feels like casting the club but the body turn keeps the hands in front of the club head at impact.
Bow to Crossbow👍
Sorry, but this guy is the master of speaking fluff... lol
I disagree
This is for people who can think. People that want to learn their way to do the golf thing. Not good for people that like to be told what to think.
@@MartinAyersGolf
Love it!
Bottom line: go hit balls, figure out how to get the ball to do what you want. Thanks coach
@@AlphaPoppa38 you’re welcome.
Howscome the fellas who are most able to demonstrate this monstrous ability, the long drive guys, can’t break 90?
Could there be more to it?
Yes, and if you made it to the Collin Morikawa portion you would know that.
Kyle goes low
Wouldnt use morikawa as an example as he is left handed playing right
So Ernest was right after all…🙂
Golf is difficult to express verbally and visually, i think state your and show your idea in a swing both regular speed ,half speed and slo motion From several angles if a person watched that enough times you can finally see . I went to the players a couple times and watching practicing and rounds i could see a pattern a purpose. Video is good if shown from many angles and speed but watching 130 of the best players that score from anywhere is phenomenal.
Golf is NOT difficult to express verbally. At all. What is the task?
@@shibazzmcgurk5354 an instructor can give verbal instructions to ten students not all will understand it until a different set of words resonates with them.
@@ag358
if they are not clearly identifying the task then you would certainty keep describing what to attempt to do in all kinds of different ways i suppose.
WHAT is the task?
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo true.
If you don’t get it that’s on you. If you don’t have something useful to say butt the h3ll out. Great stuff, thx.