This is awesome!!! I remember I was 12 years old when this originally aired. I couldn't believe Diana shot the Priest LOL Then everyone at school the next day was talking about it LOL So classic! I love Diana! She is awesome!!! :)
Remember when it flashed back to the girl and the words TO BE CONTINUED came up on her face and the screen paused and that episode was over COLD CHILLS TO THIS DAY
Jane was great in V The Final Battle. She had more scenes in the Final Battle then what she did in the original. In the Final Battle, you got to see her character more often which was great. She had some really great scenes. I love the scene where she confronts Pamela her rival, shoots her first only wounding her and before she finally kills her, Diana says to her, consider this an early retirement. I didn't realize Diana had a sense of humor until that moment.
she is like many people in this world who puts on a mask to hide their weakness fears and suffering they rather present themselves as ruthless in control of their life,confidence and strong to the outer world than to admit their weakness mistakes and of course, vulnerabilities
Because sadly in this world vulnerability is considered weakness and if you’re considered weak, you will be taken advantage of left and right, and leaders will never move up the ladder if they’re seen as weak.
My thinking when I first saw this scene: "No way she kills hims. He's a priest. He has plot armor. No way this show would-- holy shit she shot him! HOLY SHIT SHE SHOT THE BIBLE TOO!" And that was when I fell in love with Diana.
@Logic Police Wow. You just did the equivalent of looking at the highlight reel without context to the thematic narrative, kind of like saying White people are institutionally "racist", due to being on top of the social totem pole in America. No context. Sucks to be you.
V creator Kenneth Johnson, who wrote the basic outline of the script for Final Battle but then left the project over some creative differences with the network, was not too thrilled with this scene. He said that basically, the dialogue is the same as he had written it, but the execution was meant to be different, with Diana showing a lot more emotion. Here's the quote from the interview: "Then, I watched Janie Badler twirl her mustache through the whole scene before she kills him. The way we had written it, Diana was really showing some vulnerabilities. She really had been moved and touched by this whole situation with the priest, and she was scared by it because she didn't want to feel these things. When she killed him, there was sweat on her brow and she wasn't doing an impersonation of a Republic serial bad guy. It originally had real depth and character, and all that was gone"
@Chris Victor Chris, greetings from the state of Kentucky. First of all you have an interesting post. In the end the point of the series is that are we going to be good guys or bad guys? Look at the visitors! Some of them did the right thing others went along with the play book of the bad guys. You think this isn't playing nowadays? I don't know why but I believe you're a good guy!
I always love to watch Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century but for V and V the final battle is way much better. I was a freshman in 1983 when V first came out.
I was in the 3rd grade when V came out of course I didn't get to watch it cause it was past my bedtime same way for V the final battle but did get to watch the whole mini series about 4 years later
Seeing this again as an adult I can only imagine some old lady in the Midwest watching this back in the 80’s and having a heart attack over a priest being shot on network TV. She saw right thru him both figuratively and eventually literately.
That's not what happened at all. She feared what she had read and what he had to say. Otherwise why destroy the bible and shoot the priest? The last thing an enemy wants is for the people to have faith something to bring them together.
@@pens8766 Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
This is one of those few times where I thought Diana was actually being honest. She read it enough to the point to come to the conclusion she mentions in this scene. Weakness cannot be shown so that it could be exploited, and 'ol priesty here knew too much. Diana can't have loose ends.
In the new series Diana is her mother and it seems that Diana has now taken a liking to the human race. Anna her daughter, on the other hand, has different ideas on that. And she takes care of her mother. Doesn't end well.....
For a (mostly) grounded Science Fiction like V, the whole Star Child with magic powers was an absolute slap in the face to everything that came before in the franchise. Not just to V: The Miniseries, but also in V: The Final Battle, too.
i was shocked after seeing this scene for the first time. Like what happened here. Usually the priest converts people into believing this case he clearly did not succeed.
Notice that Diana didn't outright kill the priest, in order to prove the point that "power" lies in the hands of those who holds the gun. Diana also knew that the priest was using his religion as a "weapon" for control, given how opportunistic he was. That offended her the most, because it was dishonest display of power. Personally, I don't think that this scene was "anti-religious", but more of a critique about how religion has been used to control others. Diana clearly was curious about the human religion, but felt that her curiosity was being used as a "vulnerability" by the priest for his own ambitions. Nope to the priest, but brilliant scene.
Well written! You really put a lot of thought into that I would like to come in about religion controlling people that they can do that when you have a relationship with Jesus is about salvation. Now you also mention that the power lies in the hands of those who hope the guns. And that’s why the far left is crying to disarm us. Good luck on that because you’re gonna need good luck the people aren’t gonna have it. Best regards from the state of Kentucky.
Those lizard aliens to have their own religion called the 'ZON'. But their dictator leader almost abolished it centuries ago. The 5th Column are the consider the last group of liberal and ZON worshippers in their kind.
seguramente el cura le hizo leer el Sermon del monte ahí es donde te quiebras.continuen amando a sus enemigos.da la otra mejilla .si te piden caminar una milla camina 2millas .no devuelvan mal por mal.ama a tu prójimo.etc etc enseñanzas de Jesús.diana no lo nombra por nombre pero lo menciona y queda visiblemente conmovida se ve que jamás leyó una biblia
Diana really stroked the priest's ego by teasing him with the idea of him going to her planet. He's tantalized by the prospect that a whole new world would see him literally come from the heavens bearing the Word of God. He'd be their Moses, Jesus and Muhammad all in one.
They couldn't do this today. But I didn't care that she shot that priest, because he thought he could bring peace by bringing her Elizabeth. And as to the Bible, same thing. Just a book.
Bullshit it's only idiot world leaders who twist what the true God means thank you I follow God the right way not the world leaders way thank you take your negative vibes somewhere else Satan worshipper
@@darksidebeauty9907 Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
This scene went in a different direction than I thought it would. LOL Nowadays, the little admission she gave that the Bible was getting to her and showing her that she was vulnerable, even THAT would be hissed at, frowned upon and disallowed.
I like that the scene was done tastefully. Fr Andrew is obviously killed, but the final shot is him looking over at Elizabeth and not being blown away.
Glad this is on here. I didn't like Father Andrew anyway. He thought he could change Diana's mind by bringing her Elizabeth and then he has her read the Bible. I'm sure she caught the discrepancies in it. I had no problem with her shooting him and then the Bible.
@@TswanaPrepper Historically, atheists have killed vastly more, when they get into positions of power. In fact, atheists killed more people in the 20th century, than in the previous nineteen combined. In a godless universe, human life is cheap. With no moral authority greater than ourselves, killing your fellow man is no more of a crime, than stepping on ants.
@@Pondimus_Maximus Mark the first Gospel written is not conveying history. But is a literary artifice, an allegory (also midrash) of OT scripture (overt/covert) and Pauline theology. *Mark 5:1-20* "1 *They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. 2 And when he had stepped out of the boat, immediately a man out of the tombs with an unclean spirit met him. 3 He lived among the tombs; and no one could restrain him any more, even with a chain; 4 for he had often been restrained with shackles and chains, but the chains he wrenched apart, and the shackles he broke in pieces; and no one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always howling and bruising himself with stones.* 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and bowed down before him; 7 and he shouted at the top of his voice, *“What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he had said to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion; for we are many.”* 10 He begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now there on the hillside a great herd of swine was feeding; 12 and the unclean spirits begged him, “Send us into the swine; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the swine; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, *rushed down the steep bank into the sea, and were drowned in the sea.* 14 The swineherds ran off and told it in the city and in the country. Then people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 They came to Jesus and saw the demoniac sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the legion; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen what had happened to the demoniac and to the swine reported it. 17 Then they began to beg Jesus to leave their neighborhood. 18 *As he was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed by demons begged him that he might be with him. 19 But Jesus refused, and said to him, “Go home to your friends, and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and what mercy he has shown you.” 20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him; and everyone was amazed."* Philo: In Flaccum "VI *There was a certain madman named Carabbas,... this man spent all this days and nights naked in the roads, minding neither cold nor heat,..."* Isaiah 65:1, :4a "1 *I was ready to be sought out by those who did not ask, to be found by those who did not seek me. I said, 'Here I am, here I am', to a nation that did not call on my name."* "4a *who sit inside tombs, and spend the night in secret places; who eat swine's flesh,"* Psalm 107:4-7 :10-14 "4 *Some wandered in desert wastes, finding no way to a city to dwell in;* 5 hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted within them. 6 *Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress; 7 he led them by a straight way, till they reached a city to dwell in."* "10 *Some sat in darkness and in gloom, prisoners in affliction and in irons, 11 for they had rebelled against the words of God,* and spurned the counsel of the Most High. 12 Their hearts were bowed down with hard labor; they fell down, with none to help. 13 Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress; 14 *he brought them out of darkness and gloom, and broke their bonds asunder."* 1 Kings 17:18 "18 And she said to Eli′jah, *“What have you against me, O man of God? You have come to me to bring my sin to remembrance,* and to cause the death of my son!” " Psalm 78:49 "49 He let loose on them his fierce anger, wrath, indignation, and distress, *a (legion) company of destroying angels."* Exodus 14:28a "28a *The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen and all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea;"* "Mark's imitation also retains some of the distinctive traits of Odyssey, insofar as both stories place monsters in caves, grazing animals on the mountains, and neighbors at the scene. ...Finally, just as Odysseus told Polyphemus to tell others who it was who blinded him, Jesus tells the Gerasene to tell others who it was who healed him." Dennis R MacDonald, The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark, pp. 73 "Detailed analysis of the traditions shared by Matthew, Mark, and Luke provides strong support for the view that Mark provided the template that Matthew and Luke revised, both correcting and smoothing out its language and expanding the Jesus material it contained." The New Oxford Annotated Bible-NRSV, pp. 1380 The anonymous author of Mark (named out of early church tradition) hints to the reader that it's entirely a parable in which the meaning is an inside secret. Mark 4:10-12 "10 *When he was alone, those who were around him along with the twelve asked him about the parables. 11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside, everything comes in parables; 12 in order that 'they may indeed look, but not perceive, and may indeed listen, but not understand; so that they may not turn again and be forgiven (Isa. 6:9-10).'"* More examples of Mark using the OT to flesh out his narrative: *Mark 1:16-17* "16 And passing along by the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew the brother of Simon *casting a net in the sea; for they were fishermen. 17 And Jesus said to them, “Follow me and I will make you become fishers of men.”'* Jeremiah 16:16a "16a *“Behold, I am sending for many fishers, says the Lord, and they shall catch them;"* Ezekiel 47:10a, :10c "10a *Fishermen will stand beside the sea;" "10c fish will be of very many kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea."* 1 Kings 19:19-21 "19 So he set out from there, and found Elisha son of Shaphat, who was plowing. *There were twelve yoke of oxen ahead of him, and he was with the twelfth. Elijah passed by him and threw his mantle over him.* 20 He left the oxen, ran after Elijah, and said, "Let me kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow you." Then Elijah said to him, "Go back again; for what have I done to you?" (compare Mat. 8:21-22) 21 He returned from following him, took the yoke of oxen, and slaughtered them; using the equipment from the oxen, he boiled their flesh, and gave it to the people, and they ate. *Then he set out and followed Elijah, and became his servant."* *Mark 4:37-41* "37 And a great storm of wind arose, and the waves beat into the boat, so that the boat was already filling. 38 *But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion; and they woke him and said to him, “Teacher, do you not care if we perish?”* 39 And he awoke and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Peace! Be still!” And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. 40 He said to them, *“Why are you afraid? Have you no faith?” 41 And they were filled with awe, and said to one another, “Who then is this, that even wind and sea obey him?”'* Jonah 1:6, :11-17 "6 The captain came and said to him, *“What are you doing sound asleep? Get up, call on your god! Perhaps the god will spare us a thought so that we do not perish.”* "11 Then they said to him, “What shall we do to you, that the sea may quiet down for us?” For the sea was growing more and more tempestuous. 12 He said to them, *“Pick me up and throw me into the sea; then the sea will quiet down for you; for I know it is because of me that this great storm has come upon you.”* 13 Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring the ship back to land, but they could not, for the sea grew more and more stormy against them. 14 Then they cried out to the Lord, “Please, O Lord, we pray, do not let us perish on account of this man’s life. Do not make us guilty of innocent blood; for you, O Lord, have done as it pleased you.” 15 *So they picked Jonah up and threw him into the sea; and the sea ceased from its raging. 16 Then the men feared the Lord even more, and they offered a sacrifice to the Lord and made vows. 17 But the Lord provided a large fish to swallow up Jonah; and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."* Psalm 107:23-29 "23 *Some went down to the sea in ships, doing business on the mighty waters; 24 they saw the deeds of the Lord, his wondrous works in the deep. 25 For he commanded and raised the stormy wind, which lifted up the waves of the sea.* 26 They mounted up to heaven, they went down to the depths; *their courage melted away in their calamity;* 27 they reeled and staggered like drunkards, and were at their wits’ end. 28 *Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he brought them out from their distress; 29 he made the storm be still, and the waves of the sea were hushed."* "A raft of scholars, including Randel Helms, Thomas L. Brodie, John Dominic Crossan and others, have shown again and again how this and that Gospel passage likely originated as a Christian rewrite of this or that Old Testament passage. What one Testament had Moses do, the other had Jesus do. Fill in the name. What did David do? Joshua? Elijah? Elisha? Turns out Jesus did it, too, and even in the same descriptive words." Thomas L Thompson, Is This Not the Carpenter, pp. 113-114
One thing you should know about Reptilians. The only thing they understand is POWER, not sympathy. The problem is, they don’t realize that human emotion is also power. That’s what music is.
Did Father Andrew survive? We never find out. I always assumed that Diana killed him, but unlike Pamela and John, we never actually see her finish him off.
Ya know guys, I understand wanting to point out the horrible things mentioned in the Bible (not that the Bible condones all of it. SOME of it is just history). And I understand people wanting to criticize the mistakes of organized religion, so as to not repeat the mistakes of the past. Sometimes people of any belief system need to get off their high horse. That includes Christianity. But it also includes Islam and Judaism. And yes, secular athiesm. Maybe you guys aren't a "dogmatic religion" but you can sure act like it sometimes (hey, you become what you hate. Let that sink in, Athiests. I-and even some other athiests-are tempted to call you the "secular inquisition"). And it seems very few of you have the balls to criticize Talmudic Zionism because you don't want to be anti semitic. Only Christians and some muslims do that, right? Yeah, not prejudiced at all. But in all your talks of hating religion and the Bible, what have you. A lot of things you people say is downright legit hate speech and prejudice. Seriously, it stopped being intelligent and constructive years ago. A lot of you are just being disrespectful because you can, and picking on religious people over what some OTHER religious person did, usually centuries ago. Way to be progressive, guys. Way to be progressive. Tolerance my ass. Hey, isn't the definition of genocide include religion? As in if you try to wipe out a religion, it's genocide? Just think about that for a moment. When you make the move to constantly undermine and cause hatred against a religion, you are committing a certain aspect of genocide. (In an abstract sense, of course). I find this terribly hypocritical and short sighted. Go ahead, keep talking smack about all religion like we all are brainwashed by the same thing (have you seen all the denominations? Are you kidding? We're not all in agreement, buddy!) While you repeat the ills of society brought about by humanity, but blame it on religion, I-somebody who's not even that religious, will go through religion to give to charity. While you guys bitch and moan and insult and complain and whine about not enough people giving to the poor or trying to help the oppressed, I'll go give to charities-many of them church based-that I KNOW help out the poor and those that are sex slave victims. If you want to change the world, singling out religion is just shooting yourself in the foot. That's like putting Iran under a microscope for it's potential to use nukes while completely ignoring Israel's apocalypse armory. Besides, if religion is part of the problem then it's also part of the solution. How do you make antivenom? With venom. What sometimes eats poisonous snakes? Non poisonous snakes who have venom tolerance (like King Snakes). Otherwise you're just singling out one aspect of society to be your whipping boy and pay for their AND everyone else's mistakes. Meanwhile I listen to you complain about racism, intolerance, and injustice and then you go and bully an entire belief system for what pretty much a minority did....Cuz that's fair.
Seems like the only one who needs to get off of their high-horse is you. Holy shit. That's some seriously passionate projection going on there, buddy. "Besides, if religion is part of the problem then it's also part of the solution. How do you make antivenom? With venom. What sometimes eats poisonous snakes? Non poisonous snakes " Lmao...that makes no sense. "You get rid of religion with religion, but atheists need to stop acting so religious!" That was your message, let THAT sink in. Dingus.
Joe Cannabyte Dude, honest feedback. Not thinking I'm better than you, but when you reply with insults and act like passion is a bad thing, that kind of makes me think I'm right. The reason I'm on my "high horse" is because I'm reading a lot of comments here about how all religious people deserve to be shot. That's hate speech. If I said that about blacks, Jews, or gays, you would think I was wrong. No, seriously, those are the comments I'm responding to. The jerks who say "YEAH! I'm so glad she shot that religious guy! That's what we need to do here on earth." I mean seriously, you say that about that guy in this fictional TV show, and in that TV show the religious guy getting shot is part of the resistance against the fascist "reptilians." And now people are cheering on the Nazi Lizard Queen just because she shot a religious character-even though in that TV show, the religious character was an active member of the resistance and pushed for Visitors to see humans as equals? You prove me right. You guys want an abstract genocide. It's hatred for religion. Even if you have your reasons, that hatred will poison you. And we'll have the same monster but with a different face. You guys sound like you want a country similar to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Emphasis Soviet Union. You just want religious people dead, because of stuff that happened years ago or because some douche bag with a cross around his neck said something you don't like. Homosexuals get mistreated in communist countries, to btw. I read it in your comments. Don't even deny it. It's hatespeech. Plain and simple. You hide behind the fact that religion is unpopular right now because you're a bunch of cowards, bullies, and children. You know the ACLU has your back and if anybody tried to do anything in response you would label them as theocrats. You're the people imposing on others, not me.
Joe Cannabyte Besides, my analogy with the snakes makes perfect sense. The non venomous snakes can eat the venomous ones. So some are good. And if you get bit by a snake, they're going to use snake venom to make anti venom. That's been simple science for years. Maybe you should have paid better attention in 1st grade science class. But hey, when smart people do something smart, dumb people think they're crazy. So thanks for proving me right. And don't even whine about me being "mean" and "un Christian." I told you I wasn't THAT religious. It's about fairness, and you and everybody in the comments stopped playing nice a looooong time ago.
Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
@@sampablo7776 *Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level.* Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational). Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16. We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober). "The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. *This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."* Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3 *"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward.* ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. *Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."* Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29 *"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/ *"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music,* report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine." unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/ "Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and *dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/ *"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/ *"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."* www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/ "Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought." Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia). www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892 Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)". ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2 "XXXVII ...And *who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word?"* ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III "LX *...the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. **16:15**)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his."* The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God. Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST "6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: *but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."* *Hyoscyamus Niger* " ...was historically used..., *as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo.* " en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people. The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive) ruclips.net/p/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7) "In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16) "As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007) "Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1) "but whoever blasphemes against the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29) i.imgflip.com/1ydvtk.jpg
There are plenty of ways of interpreting this scene and the priest's wider role, but at the time and to some degree still I just figure he was a deluded twat who seized an opportunity for what he thought was peace and was willing to sell out his people for its sake, when what was actually called for was war to the utmost for humanity's survival. Especially as humanity was working on a bioweapon that might kill all the Visitors with a bit of luck. A hi risk strategy but his alternative was stupid and doomed to fail.
He was mostly a good character in the series and a dependable crutch for team resistance...But like a lot of the earlier Christian missionaries he fell to the same ego trap they often did when they tried to 'spread the faith' to others (and often ended up getting killed in equally gruesome ways by local tribes.) A sad end, as he really wasn't a bad character by any stretch.
Actually, most catholics hear a part of the bible at least twice during office and repeat at least a quote. We aren't evil fundamentalists who don't read the Bible, even though some of us (at least, I) love the character of V's Diana.
Even as a 9-y.o. in a largely secular East Coast household, I knew more of the Bible than any of my neighbors who'd been raised Catholic and attended parochial schools their whole lives. Catholicism in Europe was traditionally for the (Latin) illiterate, so reading the Bible was never emphasized. And, priests/the heirarchy were threatened by people who thought for themselves as to religious interpretation and who read the Bible for insights that might challenge Catholic orthodoxy.
I am not sure if I understood this scene. Does Diana fear the priest might actually destroy the whole warmongering culture of the visitors on their home planet, if he ever got to preach the "salvation" of the Bible to the visitors? Or does she realize her own ruthlessness is actually born from something that she lacks in life? Either way I don't understand how she can see ancient superstition as a threat.
Superstition my arse God saved me from Satan thank you worshipped that prick for ten years never again and now I love God and Jesus very much I m a much better person now then I was
Diana didn't fear the priest. He's irrelevant. It was the idea that she could be vulnerable that she hated. The Bible in this scene and the time she spent with the priest were catalysts for that realization. Considering the goals of her species, she didn't want to be exploited through any weakness.
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She killed off most of actors in this show. She was class
No one was safe with Diana
This is awesome!!! I remember I was 12 years old when this originally aired. I couldn't believe Diana shot the Priest LOL Then everyone at school the next day was talking about it LOL So classic! I love Diana! She is awesome!!! :)
Remember when it flashed back to the girl and the words TO BE CONTINUED came up on her face and the screen paused and that episode was over COLD CHILLS TO THIS DAY
She was just one badass lizard lady!
One of the best villains of all time. Brings back memories of my childhood 😎
I wanted her to get got so bad... even as a kid.
The priest is the same actor in The neverending story,where he’s the librarian who holds the book with the Auryn!
Filmed about the same time as this. :)
Also the loudmouth from Newhart!
V and V the final battle were shocking and powerful, something which is rare on today's television.
Jane was great in V The Final Battle. She had more scenes in the Final Battle then what she did in the original. In the Final Battle, you got to see her character more often which was great. She had some really great scenes. I love the scene where she confronts Pamela her rival, shoots her first only wounding her and before she finally kills her, Diana says to her, consider this an early retirement. I didn't realize Diana had a sense of humor until that moment.
i friggin love Jane Badler to this day!!
Me too
Absolutely 💯
she is like many people in this world who puts on a mask to hide their weakness fears and suffering
they rather present themselves as ruthless in control of their life,confidence and strong to the outer world than to admit their weakness mistakes and of course, vulnerabilities
Because sadly in this world vulnerability is considered weakness and if you’re considered weak, you will be taken advantage of left and right, and leaders will never move up the ladder if they’re seen as weak.
@@EphemeralProductionsThat is true to a degree but in this new time things are changing fast.
My thinking when I first saw this scene: "No way she kills hims. He's a priest. He has plot armor. No way this show would-- holy shit she shot him! HOLY SHIT SHE SHOT THE BIBLE TOO!"
And that was when I fell in love with Diana.
@Logic Police Wow. You just did the equivalent of looking at the highlight reel without context to the thematic narrative, kind of like saying White people are institutionally "racist", due to being on top of the social totem pole in America. No context. Sucks to be you.
This scene cemented Diana as the sci-fi Queen of Evil.
Love her!
@@dswynne *Get squashed, MAGAt. Institutional racism exists. Deal with it, and stop deflecting.*
"Plot armor"😁
That's when she ate you.
V creator Kenneth Johnson, who wrote the basic outline of the script for Final Battle but then left the project over some creative differences with the network, was not too thrilled with this scene. He said that basically, the dialogue is the same as he had written it, but the execution was meant to be different, with Diana showing a lot more emotion. Here's the quote from the interview:
"Then, I watched Janie Badler twirl her mustache through the whole scene before she kills him. The way we had written it, Diana was really showing some vulnerabilities. She really had been moved and touched by this whole situation with the priest, and she was scared by it because she didn't want to feel these things. When she killed him, there was sweat on her brow and she wasn't doing an impersonation of a Republic serial bad guy. It originally had real depth and character, and all that was gone"
The Christian Bible, as the Islamic Koran and so forth, are all complete SHIT, and Diana was 1000% right to have nothing to do with them. GO DIANA!
@@Foebane72 Your not a believer. Like Diana, you follow the God of this world(Satan).
@Chris Victor Chris, greetings from the state of Kentucky. First of all you have an interesting post. In the end the point of the series is that are we going to be good guys or bad guys? Look at the visitors! Some of them did the right thing others went along with the play book of the bad guys. You think this isn't playing nowadays? I don't know why but I believe you're a good guy!
@@eric777100763 Satan is a myth
@@hando88c is he?
I always love to watch Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century but for V and V the final battle is way much better. I was a freshman in 1983 when V first came out.
I was in the 3rd grade when V came out of course I didn't get to watch it cause it was past my bedtime same way for V the final battle but did get to watch the whole mini series about 4 years later
"Vulnerabilities My Dear Priest, are exploitable weakness" ...........KILLL
cuanta razón es un razonamiento pagano lo leí en un libro wicca
Seeing this again as an adult I can only imagine some old lady in the Midwest watching this back in the 80’s and having a heart attack over a priest being shot on network TV. She saw right thru him both figuratively and eventually literately.
That's not what happened at all. She feared what she had read and what he had to say. Otherwise why destroy the bible and shoot the priest? The last thing an enemy wants is for the people to have faith something to bring them together.
@@pens8766 Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
@@bleirdo_dude Nietzschean, positively. If he were writing now.
Lol, thats funny
@@pens8766, she recognized the priest as an opportunist.
If she only knew learning about your weaknesses would make you even stronger
She did. She recognized them and dealt with them harshly.
Jane badler is so beautiful ❤️❤️❤️😍😍
This is one of those few times where I thought Diana was actually being honest. She read it enough to the point to come to the conclusion she mentions in this scene. Weakness cannot be shown so that it could be exploited, and 'ol priesty here knew too much. Diana can't have loose ends.
I always crack up whenever they pan over to that little girl with her eyes darting around like a deer caught in headlights.
It is one of my favourite scenes. Although a tragic ones.
Ha... I tried to find this video already posted, but didn't find one so I made my own then yours showed up finally. Good stuff!
Damn she was HOT. 🔥🔥🔥
For a iguana.
Femdom dominatrix of my dreams. OH yeah !
I would love to see THIS Diana go head to head with Anna from the current series. It'd be a massacre.
It was her fucked mother or did you not hear her when she said hello mother
In the new series Diana is her mother and it seems that Diana has now taken a liking to the human race. Anna her daughter, on the other hand, has different ideas on that. And she takes care of her mother. Doesn't end well.....
10 years later....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I loved this mini series, but giving the little girl super powers was a bad choice.
For a (mostly) grounded Science Fiction like V, the whole Star Child with magic powers was an absolute slap in the face to everything that came before in the franchise. Not just to V: The Miniseries, but also in V: The Final Battle, too.
i was shocked after seeing this scene for the first time. Like what happened here. Usually the priest converts people into believing this case he clearly did not succeed.
Notice that Diana didn't outright kill the priest, in order to prove the point that "power" lies in the hands of those who holds the gun. Diana also knew that the priest was using his religion as a "weapon" for control, given how opportunistic he was. That offended her the most, because it was dishonest display of power. Personally, I don't think that this scene was "anti-religious", but more of a critique about how religion has been used to control others. Diana clearly was curious about the human religion, but felt that her curiosity was being used as a "vulnerability" by the priest for his own ambitions. Nope to the priest, but brilliant scene.
Well written! You really put a lot of thought into that I would like to come in about religion controlling people that they can do that when you have a relationship with Jesus is about salvation. Now you also mention that the power lies in the hands of those who hope the guns. And that’s why the far left is crying to disarm us. Good luck on that because you’re gonna need good luck the people aren’t gonna have it. Best regards from the state of Kentucky.
Good grief you make a lot of tenuous inferences, and so confidently too.
@@bhz8947obviously OP didn't watch the series or had learned of banned religion of Zon, the Lord of Light.
Pretenses, friends.
Those lizard aliens to have their own religion called the 'ZON'. But their dictator leader almost abolished it centuries ago. The 5th Column are the consider the last group of liberal and ZON worshippers in their kind.
The star child was like “wtf am I doing here?”
Star child looks like she's Jonathan Ross,s offspring
She was prophesy from their lizard religion on ZON to bring peace between species.
Even when I watched this originally I doubted she’d sit down to read the entire bible.
That would take too long. And she read enough.
@@ensignmjs7058 Looks like she got to the end of the Old Testament.
seguramente el cura le hizo leer el Sermon del monte ahí es donde te quiebras.continuen amando a sus enemigos.da la otra mejilla .si te piden caminar una milla camina 2millas .no devuelvan mal por mal.ama a tu prójimo.etc etc enseñanzas de Jesús.diana no lo nombra por nombre pero lo menciona y queda visiblemente conmovida se ve que jamás leyó una biblia
Know your enemy.
Way to go, Diana! Protect that vulnerable little girl from the predatory priest.
And by the way Elizabeth was not vulnerable thank you
Even supervillains like Diana can do the right thing once in a blue moon.
I wish this series was available on Amazon or Netflix.
ahora el 22 de mayo de 2023 la van a pasar por netflix
Vunrabilies MY DEAR Priest are exploitable weakness!!!!!
Diana really stroked the priest's ego by teasing him with the idea of him going to her planet. He's tantalized by the prospect that a whole new world would see him literally come from the heavens bearing the Word of God. He'd be their Moses, Jesus and Muhammad all in one.
Some of the finest acting ever...
I mean, I enjoyed the series a lot; it was great escapism. But finest acting ever? You really need to watch higher quality stuff.
They couldn't do this today. But I didn't care that she shot that priest, because he thought he could bring peace by bringing her Elizabeth. And as to the Bible, same thing. Just a book.
I had no sympathy for the priest who committed a crime by kidnapping Elizabeth and exposing her to danger.
The bible gave my mind peace I was a Satan worshipper at one stage for ten fucked years torture after torture
@@darksidebeauty9907You should have been an atheist they don't fall for shit like that lol
Que Isabel?
At least these alien has a point about religion
Bullshit it's only idiot world leaders who twist what the true God means thank you I follow God the right way not the world leaders way thank you take your negative vibes somewhere else Satan worshipper
@@darksidebeauty9907 "Satan"...lol the boogeyman...
@@darksidebeauty9907 Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
This scene went in a different direction than I thought it would. LOL Nowadays, the little admission she gave that the Bible was getting to her and showing her that she was vulnerable, even THAT would be hissed at, frowned upon and disallowed.
The ultimate femdom dominatrix
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DIANA THE BEST..... CHARACTER OF THE SERIES AND MINISERIES
I. Like. HER!!! She doesn't F around with bs. 🤣
Now THAT's how you bash religion =)
Oh
How I wish that were the likes of Joel Osteen, Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker.
🤘😆🤘
I like that the scene was done tastefully. Fr Andrew is obviously killed, but the final shot is him looking over at Elizabeth and not being blown away.
She shot the bible in the shoulder too...
jane badler - sex on legs!
Revenge for all the choir boys 😂
I'm touched.
Daaaaaaaayum.
I totally forgot that scene.
*I love Diana!* ❤
1:46 "You're a bad woman. You're a VERY bad woman."
Glad this is on here. I didn't like Father Andrew anyway. He thought he could change Diana's mind by bringing her Elizabeth and then he has her read the Bible. I'm sure she caught the discrepancies in it. I had no problem with her shooting him and then the Bible.
@Greg Pettis I would.
I love Jane
This is exactly how every culture should have treated missionaries bringing that stupid religion or any other, for that matter.
You think they should have been murdered?
Yup! Would have saved a lot of lives in the long run.
@@TswanaPrepper Historically, atheists have killed vastly more, when they get into positions of power. In fact, atheists killed more people in the 20th century, than in the previous nineteen combined. In a godless universe, human life is cheap. With no moral authority greater than ourselves, killing your fellow man is no more of a crime, than stepping on ants.
@@Pondimus_Maximus Mark the first Gospel written is not conveying history. But is a literary artifice, an allegory (also midrash) of OT scripture (overt/covert) and Pauline theology.
*Mark 5:1-20*
"1 *They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. 2 And when he had stepped out of the boat, immediately a man out of the tombs with an unclean spirit met him. 3 He lived among the tombs; and no one could restrain him any more, even with a chain; 4 for he had often been restrained with shackles and chains, but the chains he wrenched apart, and the shackles he broke in pieces; and no one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always howling and bruising himself with stones.* 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and bowed down before him; 7 and he shouted at the top of his voice, *“What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he had said to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion; for we are many.”* 10 He begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now there on the hillside a great herd of swine was feeding; 12 and the unclean spirits begged him, “Send us into the swine; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the swine; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, *rushed down the steep bank into the sea, and were drowned in the sea.*
14 The swineherds ran off and told it in the city and in the country. Then people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 They came to Jesus and saw the demoniac sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the legion; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen what had happened to the demoniac and to the swine reported it. 17 Then they began to beg Jesus to leave their neighborhood. 18 *As he was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed by demons begged him that he might be with him. 19 But Jesus refused, and said to him, “Go home to your friends, and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and what mercy he has shown you.” 20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him; and everyone was amazed."*
Philo: In Flaccum
"VI *There was a certain madman named Carabbas,... this man spent all this days and nights naked in the roads, minding neither cold nor heat,..."*
Isaiah 65:1, :4a
"1 *I was ready to be sought out by those who did not ask, to be found by those who did not seek me. I said, 'Here I am, here I am',
to a nation that did not call on my name."*
"4a *who sit inside tombs, and spend the night in secret places; who eat swine's flesh,"*
Psalm 107:4-7 :10-14
"4 *Some wandered in desert wastes, finding no way to a city to dwell in;* 5 hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted within them. 6 *Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress; 7 he led them by a straight way, till they reached a city to dwell in."*
"10 *Some sat in darkness and in gloom, prisoners in affliction and in irons, 11 for they had rebelled against the words of God,* and spurned the counsel of the Most High. 12 Their hearts were bowed down with hard labor; they fell down, with none to help. 13 Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress; 14 *he brought them out of darkness and gloom, and broke their bonds asunder."*
1 Kings 17:18
"18 And she said to Eli′jah, *“What have you against me, O man of God? You have come to me to bring my sin to remembrance,* and to cause the death of my son!” "
Psalm 78:49
"49 He let loose on them his fierce anger, wrath, indignation, and distress, *a (legion) company of destroying angels."*
Exodus 14:28a
"28a *The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen and all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea;"*
"Mark's imitation also retains some of the distinctive traits of Odyssey, insofar as both stories place monsters in caves, grazing animals on the mountains, and neighbors at the scene. ...Finally, just as Odysseus told Polyphemus to tell others who it was who blinded him, Jesus tells the Gerasene to tell others who it was who healed him."
Dennis R MacDonald, The Homeric Epics and the Gospel of Mark, pp. 73
"Detailed analysis of the traditions shared by Matthew, Mark, and Luke provides strong support for the view that Mark provided the template that Matthew and Luke revised, both correcting and smoothing out its language and expanding the Jesus material it contained."
The New Oxford Annotated Bible-NRSV, pp. 1380
The anonymous author of Mark (named out of early church tradition) hints to the reader that it's entirely a parable in which the meaning is an inside secret.
Mark 4:10-12
"10 *When he was alone, those who were around him along with the twelve asked him about the parables. 11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside, everything comes in parables; 12 in order that 'they may indeed look, but not perceive, and may indeed listen, but not understand; so that they may not turn again and be forgiven (Isa. 6:9-10).'"*
More examples of Mark using the OT to flesh out his narrative:
*Mark 1:16-17*
"16 And passing along by the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew the brother of Simon *casting a net in the sea; for they were fishermen. 17 And Jesus said to them, “Follow me and I will make you become fishers of men.”'*
Jeremiah 16:16a
"16a *“Behold, I am sending for many fishers, says the Lord, and they shall catch them;"*
Ezekiel 47:10a, :10c
"10a *Fishermen will stand beside the sea;" "10c fish will be of very many kinds, like the fish of the Great Sea."*
1 Kings 19:19-21
"19 So he set out from there, and found Elisha son of Shaphat, who was plowing. *There were twelve yoke of oxen ahead of him, and he was with the twelfth. Elijah passed by him and threw his mantle over him.* 20 He left the oxen, ran after Elijah, and said, "Let me kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow you." Then Elijah said to him, "Go back again; for what have I done to you?" (compare Mat. 8:21-22) 21 He returned from following him, took the yoke of oxen, and slaughtered them; using the equipment from the oxen, he boiled their flesh, and gave it to the people, and they ate. *Then he set out and followed Elijah, and became his servant."*
*Mark 4:37-41*
"37 And a great storm of wind arose, and the waves beat into the boat, so that the boat was already filling. 38 *But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion; and they woke him and said to him, “Teacher, do you not care if we perish?”* 39 And he awoke and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Peace! Be still!” And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. 40 He said to them, *“Why are you afraid? Have you no faith?” 41 And they were filled with awe, and said to one another, “Who then is this, that even wind and sea obey him?”'*
Jonah 1:6, :11-17
"6 The captain came and said to him, *“What are you doing sound asleep? Get up, call on your god! Perhaps the god will spare us a thought so that we do not perish.”*
"11 Then they said to him, “What shall we do to you, that the sea may quiet down for us?” For the sea was growing more and more tempestuous. 12 He said to them, *“Pick me up and throw me into the sea; then the sea will quiet down for you; for I know it is because of me that this great storm has come upon you.”* 13 Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring the ship back to land, but they could not, for the sea grew more and more stormy against them. 14 Then they cried out to the Lord, “Please, O Lord, we pray, do not let us perish on account of this man’s life. Do not make us guilty of innocent blood; for you, O Lord, have done as it pleased you.” 15 *So they picked Jonah up and threw him into the sea; and the sea ceased from its raging. 16 Then the men feared the Lord even more, and they offered a sacrifice to the Lord and made vows. 17 But the Lord provided a large fish to swallow up Jonah; and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."*
Psalm 107:23-29
"23 *Some went down to the sea in ships, doing business on the mighty waters; 24 they saw the deeds of the Lord, his wondrous works in the deep. 25 For he commanded and raised the stormy wind, which lifted up the waves of the sea.* 26 They mounted up to heaven, they went down to the depths; *their courage melted away in their calamity;* 27 they reeled and staggered like drunkards, and were at their wits’ end. 28 *Then they cried to the Lord in their trouble, and he brought them out from their distress; 29 he made the storm be still, and the waves of the sea were hushed."*
"A raft of scholars, including Randel Helms, Thomas L. Brodie, John Dominic Crossan and others, have shown again and again how this and that Gospel passage likely originated as a Christian rewrite of this or that Old Testament passage. What one Testament had Moses do, the other had Jesus do. Fill in the name. What did David do? Joshua? Elijah? Elisha? Turns out Jesus did it, too, and even in the same descriptive words."
Thomas L Thompson, Is This Not the Carpenter, pp. 113-114
Are you laboring under the delusion that people don't commit mass murder, rape, and torture under non-religious ideologies? How simplistic of you.
God will
As a kid, I always thought the visitors wore Adidas.
Out of nowhere, V videos of this lady and she’s shooting everyone
What a stunning looking woman!
The priest would go on to star as Jim Dixon in the show Newhart.
Didn't know Stephanie Tanner from Full House was a lizard alien.
We really need more Dianas around to get rid of idiots who thinks the bible is the only absolute truth. Good riddance Father Andrew
Fuck off will the bible is the only way to a good peaceful life like I have now since getting away from Satan
Now i like Diana, hahahaha
Apparently this is the only scene that Kenneth Johnson ever watched of the "The Final Battle" (By Accident).
This is in my top three priest scenes of all time, the other two being in 𝘛𝘰𝘱 𝘚𝘦𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘵! and 𝘝 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘝𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘢.
Diana is beautiful.
I love how she looks all pissed off reading the bible, and then shoots the priest. LOL great stuff.
One thing you should know about Reptilians. The only thing they understand is POWER, not sympathy. The problem is, they don’t realize that human emotion is also power. That’s what music is.
Whhhissssoww!
She shot it because it wasn't a King James' version.
Great actress this is how the V series is suppose to be not the remake which is a piece of shit.
Wow Diana looks pissed off reading the bible lol.
TheJoker27780 I scrolled down just looking for someone else who noticed that too!
Diana is just infuriated by reading the Bible.
@Hawker75 , the Bible isn't applicable to her species. The concepts maybe, but not the mythologies.
She'd easily see the discrepancies and flaws humans insist on pretending aren't there.
I wish someone would post the whole movie. I can’t find it anywhere.
Get the DVD sets!
Classic space drama miniseries. Idea that our religions apply to an alien species shows how little we understand.
They don't even apply to us very well. There's no way they'd have any meaning for Diana unless she wanted another way to control people.
Did Father Andrew survive? We never find out. I always assumed that Diana killed him, but unlike Pamela and John, we never actually see her finish him off.
Possibly he shared Daniels fate..
Ah yes that little girl is some sort of savior I think.
Elizabeth was the star child
Ya know guys, I understand wanting to point out the horrible things mentioned in the Bible (not that the Bible condones all of it. SOME of it is just history). And I understand people wanting to criticize the mistakes of organized religion, so as to not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Sometimes people of any belief system need to get off their high horse. That includes Christianity. But it also includes Islam and Judaism. And yes, secular athiesm. Maybe you guys aren't a "dogmatic religion" but you can sure act like it sometimes (hey, you become what you hate. Let that sink in, Athiests. I-and even some other athiests-are tempted to call you the "secular inquisition"). And it seems very few of you have the balls to criticize Talmudic Zionism because you don't want to be anti semitic. Only Christians and some muslims do that, right? Yeah, not prejudiced at all.
But in all your talks of hating religion and the Bible, what have you.
A lot of things you people say is downright legit hate speech and prejudice. Seriously, it stopped being intelligent and constructive years ago. A lot of you are just being disrespectful because you can, and picking on religious people over what some OTHER religious person did, usually centuries ago.
Way to be progressive, guys. Way to be progressive. Tolerance my ass.
Hey, isn't the definition of genocide include religion? As in if you try to wipe out a religion, it's genocide? Just think about that for a moment.
When you make the move to constantly undermine and cause hatred against a religion, you are committing a certain aspect of genocide. (In an abstract sense, of course). I find this terribly hypocritical and short sighted.
Go ahead, keep talking smack about all religion like we all are brainwashed by the same thing (have you seen all the denominations? Are you kidding? We're not all in agreement, buddy!) While you repeat the ills of society brought about by humanity, but blame it on religion, I-somebody who's not even that religious, will go through religion to give to charity. While you guys bitch and moan and insult and complain and whine about not enough people giving to the poor or trying to help the oppressed, I'll go give to charities-many of them church based-that I KNOW help out the poor and those that are sex slave victims.
If you want to change the world, singling out religion is just shooting yourself in the foot. That's like putting Iran under a microscope for it's potential to use nukes while completely ignoring Israel's apocalypse armory.
Besides, if religion is part of the problem then it's also part of the solution. How do you make antivenom? With venom. What sometimes eats poisonous snakes? Non poisonous snakes who have venom tolerance (like King Snakes). Otherwise you're just singling out one aspect of society to be your whipping boy and pay for their AND everyone else's mistakes.
Meanwhile I listen to you complain about racism, intolerance, and injustice and then you go and bully an entire belief system for what pretty much a minority did....Cuz that's fair.
Seems like the only one who needs to get off of their high-horse is you. Holy shit. That's some seriously passionate projection going on there, buddy.
"Besides, if religion is part of the problem then it's also part of the solution. How do you make antivenom? With venom. What sometimes eats poisonous snakes? Non poisonous snakes "
Lmao...that makes no sense. "You get rid of religion with religion, but atheists need to stop acting so religious!"
That was your message, let THAT sink in. Dingus.
Joe Cannabyte
Dude, honest feedback. Not thinking I'm better than you, but when you reply with insults and act like passion is a bad thing, that kind of makes me think I'm right.
The reason I'm on my "high horse" is because I'm reading a lot of comments here about how all religious people deserve to be shot. That's hate speech. If I said that about blacks, Jews, or gays, you would think I was wrong.
No, seriously, those are the comments I'm responding to. The jerks who say "YEAH! I'm so glad she shot that religious guy! That's what we need to do here on earth."
I mean seriously, you say that about that guy in this fictional TV show, and in that TV show the religious guy getting shot is part of the resistance against the fascist "reptilians." And now people are cheering on the Nazi Lizard Queen just because she shot a religious character-even though in that TV show, the religious character was an active member of the resistance and pushed for Visitors to see humans as equals?
You prove me right. You guys want an abstract genocide. It's hatred for religion. Even if you have your reasons, that hatred will poison you. And we'll have the same monster but with a different face.
You guys sound like you want a country similar to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Emphasis Soviet Union. You just want religious people dead, because of stuff that happened years ago or because some douche bag with a cross around his neck said something you don't like. Homosexuals get mistreated in communist countries, to btw. I read it in your comments. Don't even deny it. It's hatespeech. Plain and simple. You hide behind the fact that religion is unpopular right now because you're a bunch of cowards, bullies, and children. You know the ACLU has your back and if anybody tried to do anything in response you would label them as theocrats. You're the people imposing on others, not me.
Joe Cannabyte
Besides, my analogy with the snakes makes perfect sense. The non venomous snakes can eat the venomous ones. So some are good. And if you get bit by a snake, they're going to use snake venom to make anti venom. That's been simple science for years. Maybe you should have paid better attention in 1st grade science class.
But hey, when smart people do something smart, dumb people think they're crazy. So thanks for proving me right. And don't even whine about me being "mean" and "un Christian." I told you I wasn't THAT religious. It's about fairness, and you and everybody in the comments stopped playing nice a looooong time ago.
There's no better way to persuade people than by leaving a 400 word comment under a YT clip from a 40-year-old sci-fi show about lizard aliens.
THoughts & Prayers
Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Serotonin Father and of the Oxytocin Son and of the Holy Dopamine Ghost via Placebo Faith,"
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@@sampablo7776 *Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level.* Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational).
Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16.
We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober).
"The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. *This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."*
Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3
*"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward.* ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. *Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."*
Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29
*"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."*
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/
*"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music,* report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine."
unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/
"Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and *dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."*
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/
*"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."*
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/
*"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."*
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/
"Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought."
Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia).
www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892
Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)".
ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2
"XXXVII ...And *who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word?"*
ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III
"LX *...the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. **16:15**)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his."*
The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God.
Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST
"6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: *but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."*
*Hyoscyamus Niger*
" ...was historically used..., *as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo.* "
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger
Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people.
The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive)
ruclips.net/p/PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie
Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7)
"In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16)
"As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007)
"Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1)
"but whoever blasphemes against the *Holy Dopamine Ghost* can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29)
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@@bleirdo_dude 😆Like I read any of that...
@@sampablo7776 It's to highlight to others your ignorance.
There are plenty of ways of interpreting this scene and the priest's wider role, but at the time and to some degree still I just figure he was a deluded twat who seized an opportunity for what he thought was peace and was willing to sell out his people for its sake, when what was actually called for was war to the utmost for humanity's survival. Especially as humanity was working on a bioweapon that might kill all the Visitors with a bit of luck. A hi risk strategy but his alternative was stupid and doomed to fail.
What is Diana's hairstyle in this scene?
Whatever it was, the amount of aerosol hairspray required to keep it together destroyed at least 10% of the ozone layer. Damned aliens!
This is her best Diana hairdo by far.
Diana the Queen of lezards !
Damn heathen lizards😁
wow!! they are soo freaken powerful...they freaken fake shot a priest to the public eyes
I have that same reaction when someone tries to proselytize me.
@TheDeviousDeception She's the Madame Max Adolphe of fiction television: Pure evil with no regrets
Those eyes are deadly
She kills again... she's wicked wicked
Diana you were a Queen , a Goddess
;-)
'wonder what she'll look like in V 2010
He was mostly a good character in the series and a dependable crutch for team resistance...But like a lot of the earlier Christian missionaries he fell to the same ego trap they often did when they tried to 'spread the faith' to others (and often ended up getting killed in equally gruesome ways by local tribes.)
A sad end, as he really wasn't a bad character by any stretch.
Yeah....pretty racist take. In truth it was the missionaries' people who killed millions of the "local tribes" in gruesome ways.
Jane Badler should've been a bigger star.
Actually, most catholics hear a part of the bible at least twice during office and repeat at least a quote. We aren't evil fundamentalists who don't read the Bible, even though some of us (at least, I) love the character of V's Diana.
Even as a 9-y.o. in a largely secular East Coast household, I knew more of the Bible than any of my neighbors who'd been raised Catholic and attended parochial schools their whole lives. Catholicism in Europe was traditionally for the (Latin) illiterate, so reading the Bible was never emphasized. And, priests/the heirarchy were threatened by people who thought for themselves as to religious interpretation and who read the Bible for insights that might challenge Catholic orthodoxy.
She wasn’t wrong.
Well, if you're okay with selling out your fellow humans and then being eaten yourself ...
haha Dianna is a bad ass and I love it
she always shoots for the wound on the left side first
The girl looks like one of the Tanner kids from Full House....hmmmmmmmm🤔
true, true!
He Did Better Than Father Reuter ! ! ! ! !
How could she kill Chester?
Does that mean you get ex-communicated?
I am not sure if I understood this scene. Does Diana fear the priest might actually destroy the whole warmongering culture of the visitors on their home planet, if he ever got to preach the "salvation" of the Bible to the visitors?
Or does she realize her own ruthlessness is actually born from something that she lacks in life?
Either way I don't understand how she can see ancient superstition as a threat.
Superstition my arse God saved me from Satan thank you worshipped that prick for ten years never again and now I love God and Jesus very much I m a much better person now then I was
@@darksidebeauty9907, your comment isn't related to the scene.
Diana didn't fear the priest. He's irrelevant. It was the idea that she could be vulnerable that she hated. The Bible in this scene and the time she spent with the priest were catalysts for that realization. Considering the goals of her species, she didn't want to be exploited through any weakness.
Pritenama!
People said Daniel was bad.
But this ... man ... is way worse.
My regret is that he didn't suffer more.
Rest in Hell, traitor.
Perfect (*)M 📜☯️💎 Go with the outbreaks movie 🚑😷🗝️