on another note - thorin gotta run his mic through a compressor or a soft limiter because it clips so hard whenever he's loud and compared to kassad's sound he's just so much louder, and there's a simple fix
It would be a really big positive too if thorin practiced a little less interrupting. I know this is my personal problem but it really just makes me uncomfortable when i watch him episode after episode interrupt someone and their facial expression gets more distracted/tired thinking of something else then the podcast.
@@pray4boris yeah you're not the only one, he does interrupt quite often and then it's just overpowering because his mic is just so much louder than everyone else - and again it's easily solvable by using a compressor on his mic but idk if he reads feedback. Also, he's increasingly more prone to going on semi-tangents and/or like asking someone's take on something but then continuing his own take like 3-5 times and then it's kinda understandable that the guests no longer really understand what the actual question is, so their answer is usually short. I still watch all of Thorin's content, I'd be great if he would implement some of these minor changes especially the audio mixing.
take a shot every time thorin says "if people dont know" in every video, guaranteed alcohol poisoning within 30 mins hahah, but i kid - great episode as always!
Ence has to be the best managed squad in all of counterstrike. This team is a budget team that consistently makes top 4 in the world somehow over years. At some point, they will lose their big players, they will go down, and then have to climb back up. Its crazy how well they have managed to rebuild on a budget year after year after year.
First of all: I was and still am a HooXi critic, however at some point I have to consider the results and the way G2 behaves. They won 2 out of the 3 S+ tournaments this year and I have never seen those 4 players play so comfortably. What confuses me is the expectation on HooXi sometimes. Mauisnake makes the argument, that HooXi has broken down Inferno to be almost stupidly simple. Kassad then argues that that is not a good thing. But why? Simplicity doesn´t mean something is bad. It simply works for that set of players. I don´t want HooXi to call complicated shit and try to be the main character. I want him to create a structure and provide ideas for his star players to breathe life in. And over time he has proven to me, that he can do that. I do think that Snappi is a better individual player and a better caller. But there is more nuance to a replacement like that. I don´t think that G2 would necessarily be better with Snappi than they are with HooXi.
At 23:19, here’s a name: Device. He’s been out of the game for like a year, and yet he’s come back pretty strong individually. You can see it in-game right now: he’s still sharp af with an AWP, his tracking is still impeccable, and he is still good with rifles. Does he play in a mediocre team? Yes. But that isn’t his fault necessarily, besides the fact that he chose to come back to Astralis. His individual form is pretty much on point, as good as it was when he left the game. That’s just one example, and Device is definitely an exception rather than a rule, but I thought he deserves a mention.
Great point about the broadcast talent. This isn’t talked about enough. I think many fans joined during COVID so they haven’t experienced how entertaining desks were in the past, like ELEAGUE.
Thorins point regarding Snappi joining G2, and how Snappi would love it, since he doesnt have to tell Niko what to do, and give Monesy his spots etc. Was the same thing he said when Aleksi joined, and it didn't mount to much. Yes there was a Jackz/jks factor, but still. The same thing was said when Aleksi joined NAVI, that the Aleksi/s1mple combo would be amazing and that looks lacklustre at best. Im not saying Snappi to G2 couldnt end up with alot of tropies, but I also think they would need Saw and give the two of them full autonomi
11:00 You have to use both but put more emphasis on the stats bcuz they are the same for everyone , also Maui is right u can't use a flat stat , u need to combine different stats for different players at different position in different METAs .
100% right. None of the pros who are inactive now and not playing will reach their past form. They want to come back for free contract money and to coast. They won't grind, they won't reach their old level, but I think every one of them COULD do it, but none of them will. And you're dead wrong, teams will take them in even if they're just playing middle of the road CS at best, the hype around some peoples names is bigger than some of these orgs and even if it meant losing every event it will still generate more revenue than a win. Look at most of the old, worse pros right now, they're still on teams taking up a slot because of past namesake rather than being good with the exception of VERY few of them.
As for Stavn, I think he is past it, he was an almost Superstar, that hitched his wagon to Cadian and he is possibly on the decline. I know its a meme with secondary AWPers but if Cadian wasn't so Main Character Syndrome, he'd pass some of the resources to Stavn and let him shine more, even give over the AWP occasionally, but also forego the AWP to give Stavn a hero rifle more often or centre rounds around Stavn, instead of himself. Stavn might still have failed to reach a potential but he'd have had more chance to become a Superstar and Heroic more chance to win important finals. Cadian is still such a great caller that he can rifle more often and still be a massive contributor, he just wouldn't be on the highlights. I think he chokes the teams resources and is the reason they are both contenders and never-will-be.
Easiest way to prove snappi argument. If snappi leaves ence and you get to replace him with anyone who do you take to make ence better? No one comes to mind. If hooxi goes and g2 gets to pick anyone there are multiple options who likely make them better.
I understand that g2 firepower point but you have to understand that m0nesy doesn't play every match like a god. Jks sometimes pop off. The only consistent players in g2 are NiKo and hnt. Two players poping off won't result in a win. We saw that in G8.
s1mple is the GOAT and the contenders are NiKo, Dev1ce and maybe KennyS and I'd argue Get_Right However if I had to, gun to my head, create a superstar team in a draft, I'd pick dev1ce or ZywOo because of their team work and ability to be a superstar that WILL gel with any other player, IGL or scenario. I wouldn't want to risk s1mple tilting his teammates and carrying a loss. But if I had to, gun to my head, add any one player to an average team, to win the game, s1mple then NiKo are my choices. ZywOo's weakness when it comes to GOAT status is a strength that I value, he does the team things that sacrifice his own legend and he'll drag a superteam up and not be the player that ever threatens a great team. Note: ZywOo has entered the pack just below the above contenders now though, and this is even given his handicap of the Online period.
s1mple did a reverse snappi/aleksiB He had possibly GOAT support/clutch/anchor; and constantly managed to tilt one of the most untiltable players, in Perfecto He had one of the all time best riflers in Electronic, who admittedly lowered his colours as an IGL A young but dumb mechanically gifted b1t AND arguably one of the best analytical coaches in the game who while not a GOAT contender, is in the mix PLUS he even couldn't humble himself enough to accept that SDY was the best they were going to get as a supportive anchor And, extenuating circumstances given, he couldn't manage to hold it together and now they have had to go International and lost two of the all time great players to their rival
When Maui said that watching Zywoo feels like it could be any player, is why i think he is such a cool player, because he is such a chameleon in the fact that he can do anything and everything like that is his signature is the fact that he adjusts in a game and he plays perfectly, like when he makes moves it never seems forced or uncomfortable. It always seems so smooth as if he is in the game itself running around as the model. Im not saying this to make an arguement about him being better than whoever but im just saying that him not having a signature style just isnt true imo. His signature style is his perfect plays and just being a chameleon and playing the game as it is. Like he doesnt try to take the game by force instead he is in the matrix which is why i think the nickname "the game" is perfect for him cause its as if he plays the game on a perfect note. That is his signature to be one with the game ❤.
You know Thorin is S1mple and device fanboi, kassad and Ynk are niko d-riders, and for maui the less said the better. They are known Zywoo haters because Zywoo overshadows their favorite players. I am a Zywoo fanboi, but i so not call him the goat .Even Zywoo says s1mple is better or Shiro is better. The problem is not that they have to say Zywoo is the goat, but that they do not give the respect Zywoo deserves and has earned. They use every tactic and stat to bellitle Zywoo. If he wins, then Mickey Mouse tournament, if he loses then all the blame on Zywoo, no Apex bad Igling or whatever. The unique style Zywoo has is that he plays every situation to perfection like he has wallhacks on. Every move he makes is the best in that situation. Also just google Zywoo highlights, their are so many, both online and on lans (Silent drop against G2, D2 clip against astralis etc.)
Snappi likely wouldnt work in G2 and I dont understand why kassad is in denial about it. Niko will never let anyone tell him how the team should play so their best options are "yes-men" like nexa and hooxi and even nexa couldn't take it anymore because he actually wanted to lead for real (which is a waste of his talents but thats another story). The issue with G2 is having Niko as a core player effectively prevents you from having an era defining trophy run. Despite him being arguably THE GOAT in context of individual skill on the rifle, he is also utterly incompatible with coaches or IGLs trying to even suggest to him how the team should play on the macro level. Snappi should stick to playing for the most competent organisation in the world giving him the pieces necessary to make his system work (completely opposite to the orgs aleksib has played for example) UNLESS he gets an offer from Faze to replace karrigan which he should accept immediately. Oh and also Snappi would be a slam dunk for Vitality, just tell Magisk that he is not going to have as much of a voice and it will be all gucchi, era incoming.
I don't even think it's just nik0 anymore g2 has so many star players now that hooxi's main job is keeping everyone happy and happy with the roles they play, you could take any player out of g2 and put them in another team and they would be a star player, with a team like that I don't think it needs/suites crazy structured cs, I think hooxi does have some good calling but you can tell it's not as structured as other teams and I think that's their strength because when g2 are on THEY'RE ON. I don't think g2 even needs rooster changes at all really to have an era each player just needs to reflect on what they can do better, hooxi can get to a 0.90 rating, nik0 can work on not pushing when he doesn't have to (he was good at this in cologne) and a BIG one that no one really talks about is m0nesys inconsistently, how often does m0nesy have off games and not even that just missing easy shots that he should've have, he always hits the crazy shots but a lot of the time you just need the awper to get the easy kills which sometimes he's not great at when you compare him to other top awpers.
9:00 Kassad man u went ahead and contradicted urself in the same sentence.. if u cannot rely on stats to see what is actually happening in the game.. and then u go on dogging on Hooxi again for doing nothing..
Necro but he's not using stats for his opinion on hooxi, he gets his opinion from watching hooxi play and call, and then he uses statistics to break it down for plebs with non working eyes
53:00 zywoo 1v4 Against g2 on nuke at the Paris major. The p250 clip being online means literally nothing. This dude does the same shit online as he does on lan. Zywoo isn’t the goat, he’s the best player this year. But the hate from this group on him is ridiculous. Dude is always so chill and just wants to play cs man, leave him alone.
Lol you do know that the whole narrative for years with niko teams is that it's nearly impossible for any coach or igl to implement stuff unless niko is 100% on board lol
Bahahah people tried for years to defend their GOAT with the few stats they still had but now that they have nothing left on their side "usE uR EyeS 😢😢"
I agree that s1mple is greater than ZywOo but holy shit what are these takes. How the fuck is Spinx ever gonna be better than ZywOo? Even if ZywOo switched to full-time rifle Spinx wouldn't even be close. Also what does it matter that he doesn't have a signature style? You don't need to have a signature style to be good, you just need to have impact even if it's not in any way entertaining/unique
Yeah i think zywoo is even better than s1mple was, greater no because he doesn't have the years behind him but that will come. spinx is pretty much the same age as zywoo so it's not like he's going to catch up to him. and to me zywoo's style is just being prefect, he is like the closest you can get to being a prefect player
I don't even think Spinx will ever past the value of Magisk. Magisk keeps up with the best in the world playing in the VERY most fucked positions, with the least help. I'm not even sure he will settle into being better than flamez.
@@RansomWilson782 bro like his own comment, and also there is a hot take and then there is just pulling shit out of your ass and calling it a hot take.
@@RansomWilson782 So because they are called hot takes they are immune to criticism? I enjoy the show and enjoy hearing some hot takes (also ones I don't agree with), but if there's something I wildly disagree with I will say it, especially when it seems like no pushback against them is given on the podcast.
This show has the most entertaining theme of hot takes. I feel it would be more effective if it packed 18 hot takes discussed for 5 minutes each totaling 90 minutes. The discussions are too deep & serious. It might be better to move them to other content.
zywoo's signature is that he ALWAYS has a p250 or dualies with armor on pistol rounds (and yes he is literally the only player ive seen have that, NiKo almost never has that, and I've even seen him without armor and he is the second highest rated pistol player after zywoo. Also ax1le is worse on current c9 but he is also entry fragging now on T side. Yes the CT side was also worse but that could be confidence / momentum from the T side not going well for him or having to play CT with new teammates.
allright i'm a zywoo fan because i like how he make all thing look "easy". I just think it's hard to dismiss a guy from the goat debate when this guys averages top 1.5 hltv from the very beginning of this career. He has to be up there with simple or just a bit under him and from me he's miles away from niko
On a sidenote about the reddit mods, they're always opaque and intensely idiotic. Regardless of whether I'm on the CSGO sub or a hobbyist sub they're always the worst to deal with.
The effect s1mple has in the server is undeniable but his signature platstyle of quick, audacious AWP shots is actually gross to watch. He has a high sens so is very shakey and imo it just isn't nice to look at, it makes me queasy. I don't care how effective it is, i will never enjoy watching it for extended periods, just like kjaerbye's spray control.
Truth is that ZywOo stans are obnoxious because they're riding him from the start so if he's actually the goat of CS2 we'll have to hear all these noobs go like "U said he wasn't the GOAT in 2023 now it's 2030 and what u sayin, hypocrite much?"
You know Thorin is S1mple and device fanboi, kassad and Ynk are niko d-riders, and for maui the less said the better. They are known Zywoo haters because Zywoo overshadows their favorite players. I am a Zywoo fanboi, but i so not call him the goat .Even Zywoo says s1mple is better or Shiro is better. The problem is not that they have to say Zywoo is the goat, but that they do not give the respect Zywoo deserves and has earned. They use every tactic and stat to bellitle Zywoo. If he wins, then Mickey Mouse tournament, if he loses then all the blame on Zywoo, no Apex bad Igling or whatever. The unique style Zywoo has is that he plays every situation to perfection like he has wallhacks on. Every move he makes is the best in that situation. Also just google Zywoo highlights, their are so many, both online and on lans (Silent drop against G2, D2 clip against astralis etc.) Their opinions are pointless, because this show is just their confirmation bias bubble. They all mostly have the same opinions, like the same players etc. if they had the balls, then get somebody who has a different point of view. Also for Maui, many hltv threads are hating you because of the analysis or the lack their of you do on the desk. The takes you have are mostly wrong and on the desk would say some absurd things. Go to the so called hate threads and scroll the post. I agree that some are toxic and should be banned, but many give reasons as to why you are wrong. go reply to those if you have the balls. i kow Maniac does that, and interacts with the threads to make himself better. Stop crying you manchild.
Fans go overboard on stat worship? lmfao. You sit there praising simple for baiting his entire team for his entire career just to stat-pad. Which is a losing strategy which is why he has one of the worse paces in CSGO with events won as a top 5 player. But yeah sure it is only the fans who overrate based off stats.
@@RansomWilson782 I wouldn't say s1mple is a baiter but the team always plays around him to win, he's getting all the support flashed in and everything and people go "oh when s1mple plays bad navi lose, navi have only ever won when s1mple is playing really good" and it's like yeah that's how the team is setup and it's also how s1mple as a player is, if navi is winning and s1mple isn't playing good he's still not going to be happy, that's why I think he can have a lot of conflicts with other players/igl's
@@conorcarrigan5543 Keep moving them goal posts buddy. Just because its an AWP doesn’t mean there isn’t any impact. Guess Zywoo and shiros impact in opening rounds doesn’t matter either because its an awp. Just admit you hate simple.
All time zywoo beats simple in opening kills on CT and T. On T side he is beat out by Xantaras as well lmfao. And yes, I find that CT based AWP entry frags to far easier than anything else in the game. And no all impact matters, and I don't hate simple, he is just massively overrated. And btw I can easily add that Zywoo isn't the GOAT, but beyond that I don't think simple is either :)@@RansomWilson782
on another note - thorin gotta run his mic through a compressor or a soft limiter because it clips so hard whenever he's loud and compared to kassad's sound he's just so much louder, and there's a simple fix
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Jeesuz, yes. Those sudden high-pitched volume spikes always makes me want to stop listening.
It would be a really big positive too if thorin practiced a little less interrupting. I know this is my personal problem but it really just makes me uncomfortable when i watch him episode after episode interrupt someone and their facial expression gets more distracted/tired thinking of something else then the podcast.
@@pray4boris yeah you're not the only one, he does interrupt quite often and then it's just overpowering because his mic is just so much louder than everyone else - and again it's easily solvable by using a compressor on his mic but idk if he reads feedback.
Also, he's increasingly more prone to going on semi-tangents and/or like asking someone's take on something but then continuing his own take like 3-5 times and then it's kinda understandable that the guests no longer really understand what the actual question is, so their answer is usually short.
I still watch all of Thorin's content, I'd be great if he would implement some of these minor changes especially the audio mixing.
Best cs show atm for me. I would love these 3 on a desk at a big event in cs2
Thorin content is based and entertaining as always. Guests are straight fire as well.
Twistzz is still great even 4 years later
take a shot every time thorin says "if people dont know" in every video, guaranteed alcohol poisoning within 30 mins hahah, but i kid - great episode as always!
or "the joke is"
Ence has to be the best managed squad in all of counterstrike. This team is a budget team that consistently makes top 4 in the world somehow over years. At some point, they will lose their big players, they will go down, and then have to climb back up. Its crazy how well they have managed to rebuild on a budget year after year after year.
Didn't Device take a 1- 1 and a half year break, come back and is still insane?
First of all: I was and still am a HooXi critic, however at some point I have to consider the results and the way G2 behaves.
They won 2 out of the 3 S+ tournaments this year and I have never seen those 4 players play so comfortably. What confuses me is the expectation on HooXi sometimes. Mauisnake makes the argument, that HooXi has broken down Inferno to be almost stupidly simple. Kassad then argues that that is not a good thing. But why? Simplicity doesn´t mean something is bad. It simply works for that set of players. I don´t want HooXi to call complicated shit and try to be the main character. I want him to create a structure and provide ideas for his star players to breathe life in. And over time he has proven to me, that he can do that. I do think that Snappi is a better individual player and a better caller. But there is more nuance to a replacement like that. I don´t think that G2 would necessarily be better with Snappi than they are with HooXi.
Excactly. With a trophy count like that, not wanting to credit HooXi whatsoever, is kind of nuts.
You can’t satisfy kassad even if you gift NiKo two best trophies he had in his career
This is my favorite podcast.
At 23:19, here’s a name: Device. He’s been out of the game for like a year, and yet he’s come back pretty strong individually. You can see it in-game right now: he’s still sharp af with an AWP, his tracking is still impeccable, and he is still good with rifles.
Does he play in a mediocre team? Yes. But that isn’t his fault necessarily, besides the fact that he chose to come back to Astralis. His individual form is pretty much on point, as good as it was when he left the game.
That’s just one example, and Device is definitely an exception rather than a rule, but I thought he deserves a mention.
Great point about the broadcast talent. This isn’t talked about enough. I think many fans joined during COVID so they haven’t experienced how entertaining desks were in the past, like ELEAGUE.
This format is so solid. Letting the three debate the takes which take longer than the take is fire.
advanced stat based on thorin's eyetest would ruin hltv users brains
Thorins point regarding Snappi joining G2, and how Snappi would love it, since he doesnt have to tell Niko what to do, and give Monesy his spots etc. Was the same thing he said when Aleksi joined, and it didn't mount to much. Yes there was a Jackz/jks factor, but still. The same thing was said when Aleksi joined NAVI, that the Aleksi/s1mple combo would be amazing and that looks lacklustre at best.
Im not saying Snappi to G2 couldnt end up with alot of tropies, but I also think they would need Saw and give the two of them full autonomi
i'd rather say that ence became what heroic was last year, the most consistent team that is always choking in big finals
I just want the richard duncan and ynk desks back :( like most of the talent but that was the peak
11:00 You have to use both but put more emphasis on the stats bcuz they are the same for everyone , also Maui is right u can't use a flat stat , u need to combine different stats for different players at different position in different METAs .
thorin lower ur mic pls ....
100% right. None of the pros who are inactive now and not playing will reach their past form. They want to come back for free contract money and to coast. They won't grind, they won't reach their old level, but I think every one of them COULD do it, but none of them will. And you're dead wrong, teams will take them in even if they're just playing middle of the road CS at best, the hype around some peoples names is bigger than some of these orgs and even if it meant losing every event it will still generate more revenue than a win. Look at most of the old, worse pros right now, they're still on teams taking up a slot because of past namesake rather than being good with the exception of VERY few of them.
As for Stavn, I think he is past it, he was an almost Superstar, that hitched his wagon to Cadian and he is possibly on the decline.
I know its a meme with secondary AWPers but if Cadian wasn't so Main Character Syndrome, he'd pass some of the resources to Stavn and let him shine more, even give over the AWP occasionally, but also forego the AWP to give Stavn a hero rifle more often or centre rounds around Stavn, instead of himself.
Stavn might still have failed to reach a potential but he'd have had more chance to become a Superstar and Heroic more chance to win important finals.
Cadian is still such a great caller that he can rifle more often and still be a massive contributor, he just wouldn't be on the highlights. I think he chokes the teams resources and is the reason they are both contenders and never-will-be.
i mean a player that took like a year off and is still good is device, hes not old or anything but he was gone for a while and is still a beast
Saying Ax1le is over is so delusional L
Zywoo has no signature playstyle is funny to me 😂
1:05:50 Maui is 100% right here, HooXi simplifies the map so Niko is put in a position to do what he is best at.
snapi to G2 lets fucking go ... that would be Dream Team
Easiest way to prove snappi argument. If snappi leaves ence and you get to replace him with anyone who do you take to make ence better? No one comes to mind. If hooxi goes and g2 gets to pick anyone there are multiple options who likely make them better.
I understand that g2 firepower point but you have to understand that m0nesy doesn't play every match like a god. Jks sometimes pop off. The only consistent players in g2 are NiKo and hnt. Two players poping off won't result in a win. We saw that in G8.
WE need lurpis to defend lebron on the bb show
That'd be fire
s1mple is the GOAT and the contenders are NiKo, Dev1ce and maybe KennyS and I'd argue Get_Right
However if I had to, gun to my head, create a superstar team in a draft, I'd pick dev1ce or ZywOo because of their team work and ability to be a superstar that WILL gel with any other player, IGL or scenario. I wouldn't want to risk s1mple tilting his teammates and carrying a loss.
But if I had to, gun to my head, add any one player to an average team, to win the game, s1mple then NiKo are my choices.
ZywOo's weakness when it comes to GOAT status is a strength that I value, he does the team things that sacrifice his own legend and he'll drag a superteam up and not be the player that ever threatens a great team.
Note: ZywOo has entered the pack just below the above contenders now though, and this is even given his handicap of the Online period.
s1mple did a reverse snappi/aleksiB
He had possibly GOAT support/clutch/anchor; and constantly managed to tilt one of the most untiltable players, in Perfecto
He had one of the all time best riflers in Electronic, who admittedly lowered his colours as an IGL
A young but dumb mechanically gifted b1t
AND arguably one of the best analytical coaches in the game who while not a GOAT contender, is in the mix
PLUS he even couldn't humble himself enough to accept that SDY was the best they were going to get as a supportive anchor
And, extenuating circumstances given, he couldn't manage to hold it together and now they have had to go International and lost two of the all time great players to their rival
Dev left for a year and is killing it
When Maui said that watching Zywoo feels like it could be any player, is why i think he is such a cool player, because he is such a chameleon in the fact that he can do anything and everything like that is his signature is the fact that he adjusts in a game and he plays perfectly, like when he makes moves it never seems forced or uncomfortable. It always seems so smooth as if he is in the game itself running around as the model. Im not saying this to make an arguement about him being better than whoever but im just saying that him not having a signature style just isnt true imo. His signature style is his perfect plays and just being a chameleon and playing the game as it is. Like he doesnt try to take the game by force instead he is in the matrix which is why i think the nickname "the game" is perfect for him cause its as if he plays the game on a perfect note. That is his signature to be one with the game ❤.
You know Thorin is S1mple and device fanboi, kassad and Ynk are niko d-riders, and for maui the less said the better. They are known Zywoo haters because Zywoo overshadows their favorite players. I am a Zywoo fanboi, but i so not call him the goat .Even Zywoo says s1mple is better or Shiro is better. The problem is not that they have to say Zywoo is the goat, but that they do not give the respect Zywoo deserves and has earned.
They use every tactic and stat to bellitle Zywoo. If he wins, then Mickey Mouse tournament, if he loses then all the blame on Zywoo, no Apex bad Igling or whatever.
The unique style Zywoo has is that he plays every situation to perfection like he has wallhacks on. Every move he makes is the best in that situation.
Also just google Zywoo highlights, their are so many, both online and on lans (Silent drop against G2, D2 clip against astralis etc.)
@1098 When did Maui hate on Zywoo? It’s in your mind.
You are using too much logic for these clowns
Zywoo & Spinx is like Lemieux & Jagr
HTPM: FaZe need to hire a GM to rescue their 5 players from having to play with each other.
Snappi likely wouldnt work in G2 and I dont understand why kassad is in denial about it. Niko will never let anyone tell him how the team should play so their best options are "yes-men" like nexa and hooxi and even nexa couldn't take it anymore because he actually wanted to lead for real (which is a waste of his talents but thats another story).
The issue with G2 is having Niko as a core player effectively prevents you from having an era defining trophy run. Despite him being arguably THE GOAT in context of individual skill on the rifle, he is also utterly incompatible with coaches or IGLs trying to even suggest to him how the team should play on the macro level.
Snappi should stick to playing for the most competent organisation in the world giving him the pieces necessary to make his system work (completely opposite to the orgs aleksib has played for example) UNLESS he gets an offer from Faze to replace karrigan which he should accept immediately.
Oh and also Snappi would be a slam dunk for Vitality, just tell Magisk that he is not going to have as much of a voice and it will be all gucchi, era incoming.
I don't even think it's just nik0 anymore g2 has so many star players now that hooxi's main job is keeping everyone happy and happy with the roles they play, you could take any player out of g2 and put them in another team and they would be a star player, with a team like that I don't think it needs/suites crazy structured cs, I think hooxi does have some good calling but you can tell it's not as structured as other teams and I think that's their strength because when g2 are on THEY'RE ON. I don't think g2 even needs rooster changes at all really to have an era each player just needs to reflect on what they can do better, hooxi can get to a 0.90 rating, nik0 can work on not pushing when he doesn't have to (he was good at this in cologne) and a BIG one that no one really talks about is m0nesys inconsistently, how often does m0nesy have off games and not even that just missing easy shots that he should've have, he always hits the crazy shots but a lot of the time you just need the awper to get the easy kills which sometimes he's not great at when you compare him to other top awpers.
9:00 Kassad man u went ahead and contradicted urself in the same sentence.. if u cannot rely on stats to see what is actually happening in the game.. and then u go on dogging on Hooxi again for doing nothing..
Necro but he's not using stats for his opinion on hooxi, he gets his opinion from watching hooxi play and call, and then he uses statistics to break it down for plebs with non working eyes
53:00 zywoo 1v4 Against g2 on nuke at the Paris major. The p250 clip being online means literally nothing. This dude does the same shit online as he does on lan. Zywoo isn’t the goat, he’s the best player this year. But the hate from this group on him is ridiculous. Dude is always so chill and just wants to play cs man, leave him alone.
ence hot take is definitely from kassad and zywoo hot take is from thorin
Im afraid you missed the mark on this one
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I think G2 should get a new coach who cab help the team more, if they do that i think they can win everything even with hooxi
Lol you do know that the whole narrative for years with niko teams is that it's nearly impossible for any coach or igl to implement stuff unless niko is 100% on board lol
Is Petar Milovanovic the one who should not be named? Or why is Thorin so afraid of uttering his name lmao
He and mostly R Lewis despise everyone from HLTV, so won’t be surprising if that’s the case
Bahahah people tried for years to defend their GOAT with the few stats they still had but now that they have nothing left on their side
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zywoo awp 1v4 nuke against G2
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I agree that s1mple is greater than ZywOo but holy shit what are these takes. How the fuck is Spinx ever gonna be better than ZywOo? Even if ZywOo switched to full-time rifle Spinx wouldn't even be close. Also what does it matter that he doesn't have a signature style? You don't need to have a signature style to be good, you just need to have impact even if it's not in any way entertaining/unique
Yeah i think zywoo is even better than s1mple was, greater no because he doesn't have the years behind him but that will come. spinx is pretty much the same age as zywoo so it's not like he's going to catch up to him. and to me zywoo's style is just being prefect, he is like the closest you can get to being a prefect player
I don't even think Spinx will ever past the value of Magisk. Magisk keeps up with the best in the world playing in the VERY most fucked positions, with the least help. I'm not even sure he will settle into being better than flamez.
They are hot takes. Incase you couldn’t tell by the title and need to be told that they might be spicy or even tongue and cheek.
@@RansomWilson782 bro like his own comment, and also there is a hot take and then there is just pulling shit out of your ass and calling it a hot take.
@@RansomWilson782 So because they are called hot takes they are immune to criticism? I enjoy the show and enjoy hearing some hot takes (also ones I don't agree with), but if there's something I wildly disagree with I will say it, especially when it seems like no pushback against them is given on the podcast.
This show has the most entertaining theme of hot takes.
I feel it would be more effective if it packed 18 hot takes discussed for 5 minutes each totaling 90 minutes.
The discussions are too deep & serious. It might be better to move them to other content.
-hooxi + thoorin
zywoo's signature is that he ALWAYS has a p250 or dualies with armor on pistol rounds (and yes he is literally the only player ive seen have that, NiKo almost never has that, and I've even seen him without armor and he is the second highest rated pistol player after zywoo.
Also ax1le is worse on current c9 but he is also entry fragging now on T side. Yes the CT side was also worse but that could be confidence / momentum from the T side not going well for him or having to play CT with new teammates.
allright i'm a zywoo fan because i like how he make all thing look "easy". I just think it's hard to dismiss a guy from the goat debate when this guys averages top 1.5 hltv from the very beginning of this career. He has to be up there with simple or just a bit under him and from me he's miles away from niko
Can we please get an episode that doesnt include shitting on Hooxi or zywoo lmao. Love the show but please its getting so repetitive.
54:18 the hypocrisy is appalling 😂
On a sidenote about the reddit mods, they're always opaque and intensely idiotic. Regardless of whether I'm on the CSGO sub or a hobbyist sub they're always the worst to deal with.
The effect s1mple has in the server is undeniable but his signature platstyle of quick, audacious AWP shots is actually gross to watch. He has a high sens so is very shakey and imo it just isn't nice to look at, it makes me queasy. I don't care how effective it is, i will never enjoy watching it for extended periods, just like kjaerbye's spray control.
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Snapi and saw to g2
Truth is that ZywOo stans are obnoxious because they're riding him from the start so if he's actually the goat of CS2 we'll have to hear all these noobs go like "U said he wasn't the GOAT in 2023 now it's 2030 and what u sayin, hypocrite much?"
To have an era with snappi G2 would also need -jks +Nertz
You know Thorin is S1mple and device fanboi, kassad and Ynk are niko d-riders, and for maui the less said the better. They are known Zywoo haters because Zywoo overshadows their favorite players. I am a Zywoo fanboi, but i so not call him the goat .Even Zywoo says s1mple is better or Shiro is better. The problem is not that they have to say Zywoo is the goat, but that they do not give the respect Zywoo deserves and has earned.
They use every tactic and stat to bellitle Zywoo. If he wins, then Mickey Mouse tournament, if he loses then all the blame on Zywoo, no Apex bad Igling or whatever.
The unique style Zywoo has is that he plays every situation to perfection like he has wallhacks on. Every move he makes is the best in that situation.
Also just google Zywoo highlights, their are so many, both online and on lans (Silent drop against G2, D2 clip against astralis etc.)
Their opinions are pointless, because this show is just their confirmation bias bubble. They all mostly have the same opinions, like the same players etc. if they had the balls, then get somebody who has a different point of view.
Also for Maui, many hltv threads are hating you because of the analysis or the lack their of you do on the desk. The takes you have are mostly wrong and on the desk would say some absurd things. Go to the so called hate threads and scroll the post. I agree that some are toxic and should be banned, but many give reasons as to why you are wrong. go reply to those if you have the balls. i kow Maniac does that, and interacts with the threads to make himself better. Stop crying you manchild.
Fans go overboard on stat worship? lmfao. You sit there praising simple for baiting his entire team for his entire career just to stat-pad. Which is a losing strategy which is why he has one of the worse paces in CSGO with events won as a top 5 player. But yeah sure it is only the fans who overrate based off stats.
Simple is still a leader in opening duels won. In what world is that baiting. You are severely out of your depth.
@@RansomWilson782 I wouldn't say s1mple is a baiter but the team always plays around him to win, he's getting all the support flashed in and everything and people go "oh when s1mple plays bad navi lose, navi have only ever won when s1mple is playing really good" and it's like yeah that's how the team is setup and it's also how s1mple as a player is, if navi is winning and s1mple isn't playing good he's still not going to be happy, that's why I think he can have a lot of conflicts with other players/igl's
@@RansomWilson782 Opening duels won w/ AWP holding a tiny angle sitting on CT with zero threat. Nothing earned.
@@conorcarrigan5543 Keep moving them goal posts buddy. Just because its an AWP doesn’t mean there isn’t any impact. Guess Zywoo and shiros impact in opening rounds doesn’t matter either because its an awp. Just admit you hate simple.
All time zywoo beats simple in opening kills on CT and T. On T side he is beat out by Xantaras as well lmfao. And yes, I find that CT based AWP entry frags to far easier than anything else in the game. And no all impact matters, and I don't hate simple, he is just massively overrated. And btw I can easily add that Zywoo isn't the GOAT, but beyond that I don't think simple is either :)@@RansomWilson782
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