How Fast can you Beat Pokemon Red/Blue with Just a Gengar?
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2020
- Gastly is the king of the pre-evolved Pokemon, Mewtwo, thus far has been the best of ALL Pokemon. Can Gengar give it a ..... scare?
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2:20 - Reading up on Bulbapedia, it basically was because of the Confuse Ray
"Additionally, if the opponent does not use an attack that misses, the last amount of damage done will not be reset, effectively resulting in damage done during the previous turn also being counted as damage done during that turn."
Meaning that when you used Confuse Ray, instead of adding 0 to the stored damage like it should since, y'know, you didn't deal any actual damage, it instead repeated the last amount obtained: The 9 from Night Shade
Thus, Bide had stored 18 and did 36 as a result
Good ol Gen I being Gen I.
Wow. Thanks for the find! But jesus christ, buggy much?
So lick was the right move
you can also get fucked over if you use a potion during the bide turns after attacking
@@GodofGHz
Welcome to generation 1
I talked with the other Elite Four members and we decided to give you a freebie after that Pichu run.
Why do you use bad pokemon
Man, you were kicking Jrose's ass in that run. What the fuck happened here?
Every run is a freebie run with you in it, Bruno.
*they decided, you're a freebie for everything that isn't a frail electric type
@@Tridd666 his pokemon aren't bad, they're literally just held back. Their true potential shines in the many remakes. Except let's go, we don't talk about let's go.
Hypnosis is literally "60% of the time, it works every time".
"That doesn't make sense"
@@azh698 its science
“Stings the nostrils”
"will anything beat Mewtwo?"
implying you doubt weedle can win
All hail Lord Bongzilla!
Alakazam transfer i sure can beat it ...
Beware the power of Tauros!!!
@@Sebastian-cn8lh If you transfer it with psychic, it might. With it's level up speed, critical and good move, it might.
I tried Weedle and I got to Giovanni and couldn’t clear his gym. Level 100 maxed out all stat experience. Had several mutual KOs. No idea if it’s actually possible or not.
The Agatha Lottery: he used Gengar to destroy Gengar
Agatha:
So who are U challenger?
Jrose11:
I am U but better
Small note but Golbat had a good chance to be okhod by Thunderbolt with 5 extra base power didn't end up mattering
Thanos
7:08 Gengar is immune to wrap
Gen 1 mechanics: I know that Gengar is immune to wrap... but you're going to lose those turns anyway.
Gen 1 is the definition of rushed game lol
@@iuricunhamurakami8261 I don't think it was rushed. It was just released on something with less memory than current day calculators. They had to do a lot of weird stuff to get all of that stuff on there
@@DisastrousIntentionally It was just designed very badly
@@Zorae42 Thats a fair point, i always forgot how ridiculous the gameboy was
@@DisastrousIntentionally Yeah, my bad
"Blaine has what's called good AI"
Also Blaine: Full HP Growlithe? Better use a potion!
"Good" ai
It’s named “good ai” sarcastically
For those wondering, this kind of things happen because in Gen 1 the AI knows what you selected and how it will play out before choosing the move. So it is able to know that you'll hit and how much HP it will have left, leading to seemingly retroactive potions.
It cracks me up that it's easier to beat the entire game with just a Poliwag than it is to beat it with a Moltres
Pokemon makers new this..
That's why poliwag is the first thing you see in Pokemon snap
Poliwag/Poliwhirl/Poliwrath are underappreciated. Poliwhirl is my favorite pokemon and I always have space for him on a team.
@@Gatorade69 i used to have a Golem in team this pokemon is so underrated too. Insane movepool and excellent defense statistics a pretty nice counter to the 100% crit Persian
Poliwag gets access to more, better, moves. And it does so faster than Moltres can. Moltres is stuck with Peck and Fire Spin until level FIFTY ONE! And only has Fire-, Flying-, and Normal- type moves.
@@WazaYTB Golem was neck and neck with Rhydon as two of the best defensive monsters in competitive in Gen1. What are you talking about?
Both have taken a nasty fall from grace since, though.
Jrose needed to recover from the Pichu so he decided to give himself an easy one
*The* Pichu
I believe he says that he has already beaten the game with almost every pokemon, he just needs to record the audio and edit the videos.
I like this runs much more, because it shows how strong the Pokemon is. The pre evolved runs are mostly grinding.
mah dry bread = constant stream of reasonably good quality content
jrose = unpredictable schedule, uploads super high quality content
In Pokemon terms, Mah Dry Bread is an Ice Beam, whereas Jrose is a Blizzard
I have to go watch the pichu one.
If only this was released on Halloween, life would be complete
no man we needed to do pichu. Everyone was looking forward to Pichu so he had to do that one.
Shut Up, Who cares about Halloween
G/S/C Delibird solorun on Christmas it is then
@@Felixkeeg fucking, please?
Edit: no but legit I remember back in middle school I tried to use delibird on my team and holy shit that mon is bad.
Either way I doubt jrose would do it because, like clefairy and metronome, present is just a dice roll and jrose says like every vid that he tries to minimize luck.
Kind reminder that Halloween is nesr for you to re watched!
That Gengar - Bide kill really needs to be deep dug. Weird shit like that is why I love Genwun
2:20 - Reading up on Bulbapedia, it basically was because of the Confuse Ray
"Additionally, if the opponent does not use an attack that misses, the last amount of damage done will not be reset, effectively resulting in damage done during the previous turn also being counted as damage done during that turn."
Meaning that when you used Confuse Ray, instead of adding 0 to the stored damage like it should since, y'know, you didn't deal any actual damage, it instead repeated the last amount obtained: The 9 from Night Shade
Thus, Bide had stored 18 and did 36 as a result
@@payrysdoscs4903 You literally copied and pasted from the top comments (Coconut Gun). You are trash 🗑
@@BlackKoiRecords It was relevant to this comment, so who cares? They could've just said the same information in a slightly different way, but what's the point in that? We all saw the top comment, we all know where the info came from.
@@TheBlueWizzrobe I didn't see the top comment :(
@@bradlauk1419 see? The reply was helpful haha
Blastoise: "Alright, screw you, I'm not hiding in my damn shell anymore, eat this super ultimate mega Hydro Pump!"
*Miss*
Blastoise: "Uh... Withdra--" *Gets wiped*
The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure Gengar would've survived it anyways. Gengar's got a lot of special stat.
I'm excited for the Onix bonus video so I can say "That was Onixpected"
You sir, could be a pundit.
I better see that on that video, or I'll throw a fit
@Alabhya A T R E Y I (O)nixpected that
@@YTLGames no u
Not if jrose11 does it first.
"Well it's nearly 1am, better get to bed"
'Jrose11 uploaded a video'
*oh, we're not finished yet*
1 AM is the pre season. You still have to do the Elite Four.
I am watching this at twelve in the morning XD
The whole Sabrina battle was that treehouse of horror episode where homer buys the Krusty doll and gets the frozen yogurt
That's good
That was the reference :)
@@Jrose11 Oooh that's baaaad.
But you get your choice of topping .....
"How fast can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just a Gengar?"
Pretty fast. Gengar is my all-time favorite Pokemon for a reason, and it's this game. Ran through the entire game with just an Alakazam and Gengar once, was ez pz.
Alakazam and Gengar are just downright broken in Gen 1, and it's glorious. They're the two most broken examples of two already broken types in Gen 1, Psychic and Ghost.
Good video, liked this one.
For the bide confusion at 2:20, this is taken from bulbapedia:
“The damage received during the period is counted as equal to the last amount of damage done. The last amount of damage done will include crash damage, an opponent's self-inflicted confusion damage, and the full damage absorbed by a substitute. Additionally, if the opponent does not use an attack that misses, the last amount of damage done will not be reset, effectively resulting in damage done during the previous turn also being counted as damage done during that turn.”
So, you're saying:
* 9 damage done
* Confuse ray missed (another 9 dmg calc'd)
* Bide returns 2x (9+9) // 36dmg?
Essentially that initial night shade will count for every turn when the “last damage done” is not reset”. So i guess the optimal strategy once he had already used bide prior to your night shade, would be to use lick? Or at least use lick once, then confuse ray. That way the most recent damage would be from lick, and then you can confuse it.
This weird status of the last damage dealt causes a lotttttt of fun stuff with counter as well. Counter can even counter itself. You can counter hyper beam during its recharge turn if you outspeed, etc.
Something fun to do if you have, say a chansey vs a tauros (any faster hyper beam user really). Use thunderwave to paralyze it on the same turn it uses hyper beam, then use counter.
Heres another dumb, but unrelated mechanic. If a pokemon that has yet to recharge is target by a sleep move, it is put to sleep no matter what. As in the accuracy check is bypassed, and its current status is overridden. Using the same example above, paralyze the opponent on the same turn hyper beam is used against you. Then use sing, and tauros will be put to sleep, even though it was paralyzed. This is risky though because it gets rid of the recharge, meaning tauros will be ready to attack next turn if it gets a first-turn wake. HOWEVER, thanks to more gen 1 fun, the tauros will still be slower because the paralysis speed drop persists until status healing item is used on it or it switches out.
Ok sorry, done ranting :p
@@MsCravenMoorehead yes, according to that passage haha. Bide is never used competitively, so i dont have any actual experience with it
@@blah9500 And you didn't even went on how crazy Substitute and Items are.
@@MsCravenMoorehead it doubles the damage it took, so yes. That's basically exactly what he's saying since it counts confuse ray (items too) as an additional hit.
Was actually in the middle of rewatching the ghastly run when you posted this lol
Mahdrybreads or jroses one
@@gmk9321 what do you think.
@@gmk9321 probably the better one aka jrose one
Same here!
That's ....... Spooky 🤣😂
(Ghosts are spooky)
Great run. By the way, you've uncovered the Gen 1 Bide Glitch. ANY time a non-accuracy action is taken while under Bide from EITHER side, it doubles the Bide counter.
So bide is one of the best moves against Agatha?
I'm very interested in how a Snorlax run would turn out. It starts out with amnesia at level 1, so once you beat Brock you have a move that increases both your attack AND special due to the badge boost glitch. Could make for a very fun run.
I tried it, and was murdered by Brock at minimum battles. Plus, Snorlax is more of a wall than a sweeper normally, so while I think he'd get through a lot of battles on the first try, I'm not sure how fast he would be.
@@cubedmelons876 I definitely don't think he'll be anywhere near the fastest, mostly due to his terrible speed stat, but I just think it would be a fun run regardless. That said, I'm surprised Snorlax had that rough of a time with brock. It starts off with headbutt, which even despite not being very effective, is a decently powerful STAB move, and I feel like rest should let you stall them out pretty well even if it might be agonizingly slow.
@@TheBlueWizzrobe Sadly, a level 6 Snorlax is not gonna do much damage against a Geodude 5 levels higher, even with Headbutt. And with the level difference, Geodude actually does a lot of damage.
@@cubedmelons876not a level 7 or 8 snorlax?
Ugh, jrose you keep getting better at these... the editing is getting sharper, the little interjection in the beginning was great...
I think every one of these is just a little better than the last.
Gengar the signature pokemon of not one, not two! But three gym leader/elite members
Agatha, Morty and onion boy
Jrose11: "Can anyone dethrone mewtwo?"
Me: Looks suspiciously at Tauros.
Tauros is good. It can learn a lot of great TMs. Too bad the learnset is garbage. Only normal moves up until Surge. Early game will be slow. No way it'll beat Mewtwo.
@@slippy318 i agree, if Tauros started with earthquake it could blow through the game, but mewtwo is just untouchable with psycic and confusion early game. so much is weak to special not to mention psycic type. we need to see what else has a good starting moveset but i doubt anything even will come close to it. honestly it is a contest for how close one can get to mewtwo
@@slippy318 I'm looking at his level learnset, and it's not too great early on for brock, tbh. He'd be as good I'm the late game because of his learnset are serviceable special stat. I'm looking through them all to guess which would compete with m2.
Probably Nidoking? It is what speedrunners use to achieve runs of under 2 hours. It grows respectably faster than Mewtwo, has access to a vast array of TMs, and starts with Thrash.
From some quick searching, my list of contenders:
Nidoking
Victreebell
Dugtrio
Poliwrath
Gyarados
Tauros
All these have good early game options (quickly getting through brock is pretty important) and have some combo of stats, boosting moves (say it with me...), coverage, positive critical matchups, etc.
Honestly, gyarados is the top contender. Starting with hydro pump and dragon rage is preeeeetty good.
I did not know how much I needed to hear Jrose11 Count saying “Oh critical hit!”
'I can't lose against Lance'
I mean you technically can with Confusion RNG from Supersonic, you just need to hit yourself 8 times,
I love these challenge runs. Thank you for continuing this fantastic series!
25:55 ''The salad exam is scary''
The closed captions are always hilarious
"The damage received during the period is counted as equal to the last amount of damage done. The last amount of damage done will include crash damage, an opponent's self-inflicted confusion damage, and the full damage absorbed by a substitute. *Additionally, if the opponent does not use an attack that misses, the last amount of damage done will not be reset, effectively resulting in damage done during the previous turn also being counted as damage done during that turn.*" -- Bulbapedia
I am always learning new things about Gen 1 mechanics.
2:34 well the onix didn’t hurt itself in confusion, so that shouldn’t add in. I am wondering if it has to do with onyx’s level possibly coming into play in some way because of nightshade’s play off level.
There are a lot of people doing these types of videos, but JRose is the best. So detailed and the best commentary
Fun video. I do like the longer vids but seeing a streamlined run is always refreshing. The Elite 4 being relatively easy is nice to see every now and again.
You've also done 1/6th of the Pokedex!
Yay new video I’ve been self quarantined due to covid and these videos been keeping me entertained
Every time he does the count impression, it makes me smile. Great videos
you really do deserve more subs these videos are very good and genuinely quality content
"i dont want to be luck dependant"
laughs in sabrina
I just love the Count impression, it's between horrible and perfect, and it always makes me laugh. Love your videos man! Road to 200k!
This video helps show how good the Gastly run was. It might have taken longer time wise, but only 2 levels higher than Gengar is still pretty impressive. This run was pretty fun to watch too.
The fact that Gengar is not a legendary puts it higher in pokemon amazingness than Mewtwo. Mewtwo is suppose to be great stat pokemon with few to no weakness, but the fact Gengar was able to come just shy of Mewtwo's time makes it far superior in my book
He would have given Mewtwo/Alakazam a hard run if only it knew Shadow Ball in Gen1
@@stuartdparnell he should’ve done fire red because LICK IS THE ONLY GHOST MOVES
@@deutschcountryball7037 gen 3 ghost moves are all physical so it barely matters
And Mewtwo has STAB Psychic to his advantage
Imagine if gengar was just pure ghost type.
This is what I was expecting! Mewtwo needs a re-run with optimized strategy, imo.
Waiting for alakazam. My bet to be the closest to M2
You, are on fire my man, Thank you for the uploading run during this quarantine times!
Love these videos Jrose, you always make the impossible seem hella interesting. Keep it up :)
Dude, if you made 152 videos of this series for every Pokemon (MissingNo too!) thatd be awesome. Either way, you're the man
Poketips already made a Missingno vid ;)
@Sathish Kumar why are you being an ass
You'll be seeing some weird stuff with a missingno solo run. I'm kind of interested to see Jrose's reaction to it lol
@Sathish Kumar The only thing Poketips didn't do in RBY is try to catch Mewtwo.
Poliwhirl should be able to to pretty well, seeing as how Poliwag was decent.
Thanks jrose I love your late night uploads. They’re right when I need them
Just wanted to let you know Jrose, that I like your voice, your sarcasm and your way approaching the problems. You are my "grab-a-beer-after-work-and-go-to-couch"-entertainment, so thank you for that :D
When anyone else uploads: *I sleep*
When Jrose11 uploads: *real shit?*
ON MY FAVORITE POKÉMON. JROSE MY DUUUUUUUUDE! 💜👻🖤
The mic sounds even more crisp! Sitting and watching this with absolute giddiness!
I've been waiting for this video and my boi Gengar came through with a FIRST TRY E4 dub! Love the videos!
JRose, I’ve watched all the vids at least 5 times each. It doesn’t even matter how many times I watch. The commentary is amazing
Ahhhh I can't wait to watch this! I always did a glitch when I played Red and Yellow that let me get a Gengar in Viridian Forest. It's pretty funny how the game doesn't expect you to have a ghost so early so none of Brock's Pokemon can touch you.
WHAT SO SOON??!!?!? This is absolutely amazing I am in awe Jrose!!
Jrose, I love your videos and now I'm doing a Pokemon minimum fights Mewtwo run of my own. Thanks for the great videos! You need, nay, deserve _way_ more subscribers!
I love the new intro. It's much more refined. Keep up the good work dudeskie!
A REALLY good Pokemon to do this with us Nidoking. Speedrunners use this guy all the time for world record speedruns.
Me: [Sees Bide do a knock out it really shouldn't] Eh, probably bugged like 70% of the rest of the game in Red and Blue!
Just got off work and there is a new Jrose video. Nice!!! Made my day!
I’m always so happy when a new one of these get uploaded
Nidoking! There is a reason why the speedrunners holds Nidoking in high praise
He’s not that good without Items. Starmie is faster, better Special and better Moves.
Well it's probably mostly because you can get him so early
@G6 Liara speedrunners like nidoking because it evolves very early in the game(a fully evolved non bug type by the time you get to mount moon), has a great move pool, and of course the X accuracy + horn drill exploit(X accuracy ensures the next attack won't miss and horn drill is a one hit knock out move)
I'd like to see nidoking and also alakazam. It has lower stats than mewtwo and starts with confusion instead of psychic but levels a lot faster. Would be cool to see if the levels over take the base for a faster time
Alakazam would beat Gengar, should be #2 overall. Honestly Kadabra might even beat Gengar
Ahhh early morning coffee outside with a new upload? Too good 👌
Cute pfp
@@wabai_879 thanks :) I collect a lot of Charmander merch so Charmander is everywhere haha
@@lachlan4534 nice
Loving the quick upload turnaround!
That effect/transition when future Jrose spoke was awesome!!
AYEEEEEEE LEZZZZZZZ GO JROSE!!! Love you videos man! You’re the shit my guy!!
Dude, the Count impression is hilarious. I'm crying over here.
Always a pleasure to see you upload Jrose11
Keep doing your thing
I enjoy the rewatchability of your series. Keep doing what you do jrose!
I'd like to see snorlax, chansey, and Tauros.
I think chansey would be a wild ride. Got my fingers crossed for it.
@@wazzledog1007 Yikes lol. Imagine having base 5 Attack and using Struggle against an Onix.
@@wazzledog1007 i think we basically are riding through 151 runs
@@rjante2236 wait until Chansey gets a special attack. It shines in gen 1. Everything after that its only real offensive options are seismic toss and toxic stalls.
@@MIDO2802 You can rom hack in a pokemon from a different gen. Theoretically, you can get 1000+ runs if the work is put into it.
2:25 I think that there may be a possibility that bide had like, a hidden crit or something
idk if that’s even possible, but it’s gen 1 so who knows
Someone replied up above, but apparently if you did damage turn one AND use a non damaging move the next turn, it just copies the first moves damage value.
Hey Jrose I love your videos man!! I always look forward to your videos and when you post new ones!! keep it up man and I'll keep supporting (and binge watching your old videos while waiting for new ones)
always love your commentary but this was especially good! Keep it up!
Been waiting for this since the announcement on the stream yesterday. Honestly I enjoy the strong pokemon runs along with the impossible challenges
Haha yeah that stream was cool. Remember to hit the button, and UNLEASH THE DIG
Great video! Gengar is one of my favorites! Would you consider doing a solo run of Red/Blue with Persian by chance please? Keep up the great work!
Man, that Rival 6 battle narration was the most exciting and tense battle I ever experienced in a video like that
Very unpredictable run, loved watching it!
Wooooo!! Gengar is my favorite Pokémon! Finally got to see it in action.
Hopefully we see the big boy dragonite soon 😬
I’m early for once, love the videos keep it up!
Brilliant as always Jrose. I love these.
Love your videos man, keep up the good work!
Sure I'll go to bed now. Its not like any RUclipsr is gonna upload no-oh there goes my sleep schedule and any chance of looking healthy enough for my hospital appointment tomorrow.
Wow 2 videos within a week that’s like a world record for jrose
Hopefully this a challenge I see on the horizon?!?!
I love the rush back into the Count voice upon the critical hit on machamp. Like he got caught leaving on an encore
So stoked to see this upload . Thanks jrose.
Let's go i really wanted to see this
Uploaded 48 seconds ago. Honestly no meme have never clicked a video so fast.
Thanks for the entertainment Jrose.
I've been having a shitty day and I've cried for like, 2 hours. I started laughing at your fight with Bruno. Loved it. Thanks.
absolutely love these vids! keep it up brother!
I’ve been studying for 4 hours straight. So, I thogut: “I should take a break”.
Then, you uploaded the video
Thanks for the perfect timing!
EDIT: GOD I MISSED THE COUNTING! ONE, TWO, THREEEE
Why are you studying so long
blablabla
Prolly needs a good grade?
@@Tridd666 tests probably
@@Tridd666 Well, since he is a Brazilian, I believe he is studying for our annual national entrance exam, which more than 6 millions people will take in January . So, we study many hours a day if we want to get into college
I honestly would like to see a Tauros solo run considering that in competitive is, besides Mewtwo and Mew, the best mon in the game
It's level up moves suck though. Tauros is good in competitive because it's fast and wins almost all 1v1s but it's frail and won't be sweeping whole teams with ease
@@galararticuno9419 Although I do agree that it level up moves suck, I don't think it's frail. Jrose has worked with waaay worst mons and I believe that with Body Slam and Hyperbeam Tauros is capable of destroying teams (Agatha will be hard, though)
@@LuSoloLu Agatha shouldn't be that hard Tauros gets Earthquake. Blizzard for Lance too. I'm sure it is decent but the beginning is going to drag it down and Hyper Beam will require a bunch of healing items. Not having any super effective + stab opportunities means it's not going to be okhoing much either.
Came here to suggest the same thing, would be fun seeing a Tauros run.
My favourite pokemon since when i was a kid, my family were not well-off, so when my aunt showed up with a gameboy, it filled my childhood with unforgettable memories. And gengar is one of the main character in those memories, as he helped me made friendships that still last til this day. Thank-you for allowing me to re live these moments and best of luck to you in these trying times!
NICE! Always really enjoy getting a notification from you.
MewTwo is more of a godlike figure in Gen 1, than Arceus is, in Gen 4.
You get the hell outta here, we don't want you here.
U again :) sup
Excuse yourself, we all know the only godlike figure named LORD HELIX
this is a pog moment
This was a great Change of time then the Pichu run,also good job with the upload schedule !
100k views in less than a day? Finally getting the love you deserve!
Holy shit, this guy actually uploaded fast for once
Out of curiosity, as you've done a fair few of these now, do you think you could do some of these runs faster with better planning? Like, is there any of these you look at and think "I could shave a few minutes off that" if you did it a second time?
Duuude, quick back to back uploads, nice.
A massive smile just spread across my face when I saw Jrose uploaded another video this week 😊
7:50, why is bind hitting and doing zero damage? God above Gen 1 is a mess
Mah_Dry_Bread saw this on some of his challenges. Wrap does the same thing
Gen 1 is held together by chewing gum and string
@@TheAnalyticalEngine don't forget prayer as well.
It's doing zero damage bacause gengar is immune to it.
"The only advantage gengar has is hypnosis"
I guess being immune to normal/fighting and toxic don't count 😂
And anything with Agility.
I just found your channel like 3 days ago and ive watched almost all these runs hahaaha so good!!!!
I just started watching your videos, I love them you make them so interesting.