As for why that Magnemite sometimes used thunderbolt over wave, the good ai in gen 2 actually test rolls their move and if their test results in a ko, they will always use that move. Magnemite might be programmed to always set up paralysis, but if it sees a chance to kill, it will go for it. Since bolt did a bit more than half, I guess the times when she went for bolt, her test rolls were critical hits.
i think the explanation is a lot easier than that, Magnemite went for Thunderbolt after hitting itself with confusion turn 1, and the AI in gen 2 and 3 is only program to heavily favor Status condition the first turn that pokemon is on the field, if the opponent doesn't have an status condition.
I love the consistency and the videos! I want more for my man Jrose. But I can’t be the only long time sun that scrolls past the “is it possible to beat…” videos. He just needs to sprinkle in a little something else here and there
@@jerrypiper3936 nope! I am excited to watch whatever Pokemon content he makes every time. I much rather keep getting these, than get random "top 10" videos he doesnt actually care about making.
Your commentary is thoughtful, understandable to everyone, personal and engaging, and most of all entertaining. You manage to explain the facets of the runs and make every video unique. Been watching for a while now but keep up the great work!
Can we all generate the mental image of a little bitty Zubat flying at a towering Machamp, hitting it with its wing, and the Machamp immediately faints
Part of why wing attack is so good is because Gen 2 has a badge boost for types on top of stats. You get a 10% boost to attacks that match the type of a badge you have.
For any future GSC runs: South of Blackthorn there's a tree that has Mystery Berries? I think they're called. It's the only renewable source of PP restoring items, if you're patient enough with doing that clock change stuff. I've resorted to it in runs I've done in GSC with Pokemon like Chikorita. Who, despite lucking out and getting HP Fire, is still the worst.
Chikorita is bad against every Johto gym leader and elite four. I did my first gold silver run with it blind. I picked it thinking the game was giving me a hint with the looks of each Pokemon. Chikorita is cute. Totodile is a maniac. Cyndaquil looks sleepy.
i must play these games differently i really like the chikorita line maybe not as a solo pokemon but i love it used with other pokemon as a tank/support mon
Man, the sprites in GSC are ridiculously clean compared to RBY. I mean, that’s not a massive surprise, but these ones STILL look lovely Also, this might have been the best run yet from a storytelling perspective
A lot of GSC sprites have a certain something to them. Like summer awful like rhydon or jync some of them still look good even compared to the later sprites. Edit: even ride on this kind of endearing it reminds me of the really low end Godzilla suits from the '60s films
I wonder what item you had on Zubat during the Red fight. Pink Bow to boost Return? Lefties for constant passive HP recovery? Mint Berry for instant wakeup from Rest? Or...uh, did you kind of forget the item and make this harder than you needed to?
Yeeeeah, I was thinking that too."It's so important that we don't get paralyzed." Oh, okay, so you're going to equip a przcureberry, right? No? Uhhhhhhh.....
This is a cool idea. Taking a Pokemon you did in another generation and seeing how it does in a different game. Also, setting hidden power does not bother me at all. You are testing how a Pokemon does anyway. As long as the EVs are correct for the element though because if not its not an accurate test.
Fun thing to note about GSC specifically, when you get a badge of a type you get a baby STAB boost to that badge's type! The bonus is 12.5%, which makes wing attack have basically the same power as return after real STAB.
@@nykita427 Not 100% sure, but I think it was mentioned in the booklet that came with the game back in the day. I think there was a page showing all gym leaders and what you get for defeating them, and something along the lines "makes xxx type moves a bit stronger" could have been there
Playing Gold/Silver/Crystal growing up, Zubat was always my flyer because I thought Crobat was cooler than Fearow or Pidgeot...I remember the early-game pain well
My boy, your vids are constantly scoring more views, than you have subs. 500k are more than possible: the channel is amazing! The quality, the jokes, the presentation! All top notch!
Hope we can see some more Pokemon Crystal on the channel! Game holds a special place in my heart, could never beat it as a kid until I grew up, my favorite generation. Unironically loved Chikorita but all the starters are super memorable, in my opinion. Thanks for the videos!
Chikorita is my favorite Johto starter and one of my favorite starters in general. Nice to see someone else loving it, I get sick of it being trashed all the time. =P
I find it interesting that Zubat beat the Pokemon League at the same level here that it did in Red/Blue, despite the Champion's Pokemon being 15 levels lower. Better movepools and better AI really does make for a much tougher challenge.
It’s also funny that it managed to beat Red at all despite the massive level spike: the power of being able to use a Setup move and not constantly weakening yourself with Recoil
At one time I was worried you were gone for good when you didn't upload for a while, but now you are just on fire. Great videos just keep coming almost faster than I can watch them!
I appreciate how detailed your gaming footage is. As a pixel artist there's something so pleasing about seeing how clear and juicy you make the pixels look
500k is definitely not unrealistic!! your content is consistently top of class and your fanbase is truly dedicated and loves watching your content. How many other RUclipsrs can publish multiple 1+ hr long videos/week and say that??
I had a really hard day today. Had to take my kid to the hospital and drive to do additional tasks after she was released. As silly as it sounds, this video is the perfect mix of calming and entertaining. Exactly the cleanse I need at the end of the day. Thank you
@@josephcihak8458 yeah gen 2 has an insanely awful level curve. It makes the game feel agonizingly slow. The remakes fix it a little bit but the issue is still pretty annoying.
I’ve always loved your videos so I’m so happy you’ve been super consistent recently, especially since it hasn’t felt like the quality has suffered at all. Keep up the good work, man! I clicked the notification bell so I can see them sooner lol
wow nice! you really are pumping them out! love it! also 50 seconds after the upload I clicked on it, my personal record for finding a new video shortly after it came up
58:34 It's because she's new: she replaced Koga, and is Koga's niece(?), and is just starting out in the Gym Leader business, so there's actually a lore explanation for Janine being so weak. She's just new to the job, is all. In terms of the level scaling in gen 2, though, which is already horky-borky, yeah, it's a real head-scratcher that she would possess a level 33 Pokemon.
Depending on your Atk vs Sp ATK stats, Bite might've been more powerful than Wing Attack against Morty since it's Dark and Ghost is weak against Dark, plus it has a chance to flinch. Though Gengar's Sp Def is higher than Def, and Zubat's ATK is higher than it's Sp ATK, so it's possible that Wing Attack was still doing more damage, even though STAB is only 1.5X while Super Effective is 2X; but the chance of flinching is really nice
Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't try bite against Morty, especially since he said that only wing attack would hit. Probably forgot that it changed from normal in gen 1 to dark in gen 2
Hey Jrose, for the Karen fight, isn't confuse ray on the houndoom basically a 50/50 to win the fight as opposed to the low odds of a crit? If the Houndoom hits itself in confusion that solves your range issues and curse won't do more damage than flamethrower.
@@tesladrew2608 100% hit chance on confuse ray, 50% chance for hurting itself in confusion securing the kill on the 2nd attack....? That's a 50/50 isn't it?
For sure, he could just reset and check on pkhex for 3 hours, or he could just set his stats to a reasonable IV value that give him what he is looking for
I personally think HP should just be banned. It's obviously a great move but every mon can learn it and use it to overcome its biggest obstacle easily, and that makes it a less interesting video imo.
@@awesomesis a less interesting video is one where the run just gets walled by a single fight and spends the next 30 minutes praying for a 1 in billion chance sequence Not to mention. He already doesn’t use items in battle and is using a **zubat**
HP Ghost would also have had a niche in this run since unlike Bite it would be a physical move. Against Will, Morty and some other trainers using Psychic and Ghost types it would have used Zubat's better Attack and their worse Defense.
Hearing the excitement in this man voice as the video progresses is just so awesome the genuine enthusiasm is so contagious that I was cheering on with him!! Gooooo Zubat!!!
Zubat is my favorite all time Pokémon! Thank you for your dedication to the cause in a gen where Zubat had so little. Confuse Ray flinch cheese for life
What a run man, I love the videos and the quality of them hasn’t dropped at all since the more frequent videos. Thank you Jrose for the insane passion you have for these
I liked how you sounded disappointed there for a minute because people probably didn't say Wing Attack when you said what are we going to use next. Then saying you appreciated the ones that did. Classic JRose.
I gotta say, lately I've been watching another solo runner and you're by far the superior one. You've ruined me for pokémon videos, because you've set super high standard. Love your work, love your channel. And I gotta say - I like that you're not uploading like crazy, because your videos are super long and I gotta maintain some life apart from RUclips. Keep up the great work!
Road to 500k! I remember when you did your first of these runs. We knew it was going to be a hit, but man with the good quality content, they're really making you work for your subs. You see reposters and clone/mimic accs getting tens of millions for stealing vids and copying content. Smfh Keep it up and goodness will follow!
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
One thing I think might make those videos a bit more interesting would be a whiteout/reset counter. Just to really hammer home how tough some of those runs are.
I always find myself getting excited when you do in these videos lol I'm hoping like hell you hit 500K! You're too good not to! 🙂 thanks for all the great content JRose!
Keep it up Jrose and you'll get your subs for sure. Your content is amazing dude. I find it awesome that your able to talk as much as you do without swearing. My driver's Ed teacher once said "people who swear all the time just aren't smart enough to think of another word to use instead of a swear" and that stuck with me. Now I appreciate people who can communicate without swearing lol well done
You have provided so many hours of entertainment that I think a comment is only appropriate. Your content is awesome and this video is no exception! I dropped a like too! Hope you hit 500k by 2023, JRose :)
Wondering how the red battle would go with return, wing attack, curse, and rest. Get through the pikachu and the espeon with return hope that the espeon goes for reflect then set up with curse as many times as possible since snorlax only has physical moves once you are set up you can rest off the damage on snorlax and since you weren’t out speeding the starters anyways it should be one hits fully set up after you kill snorlax.
Jrose11 you can definitely reach 500k subs. I think the biggest issue you had in getting new subs is the previously large gaps in your content releases but now that you are putting more vids out regularly I have a feeling your sub count will climb. Personally I find you to be the best poketuber out there. You actually get excited when things work and the strats you use are all very clever. Keep it up man and you will keep climbing.
Gosh, every upload from you is such a treat! Seems like you've found a really good rhythm, and that you're really enjoying yourself. Thanks for the awesome content! What a fun run!
Hope your mental health is doing alright bro!!! Thanks for the awesome vid as always. I picked up pokemon emerald the other day and, thanks to your videos and some nuzlockes, I approach pokemon COMPLETELY different now. Thanks again bro
YESSS I'M COOOOMINNGGGG NGHHHHH MORE SOLO RUNSSSSSSSSS (seriously though really appreciate your work in these, these kick so much ass! Just make sure you don't get too burnt out with these and take a break when you need it dawg 👍)
So despite Zubat being kinda bad, Zubat IS able to beat Red in GSC. NICE! X3 I guess I now wonder if Zubat will continue visiting other generations of Pokemon, given what JRose mentioned at the end of this video.
51:30 I think Confuse Ray is better here. There's only a ~6.64% chance of a Crit (according to Bulbapedia) in Gen 2. Getting 2 hit-self-in-confusion is a 25% chance which is better odds even with Confuse Ray's accuracy.
During the Red fight you mentioned that Venusaur is the slowest Kanto starter, but it's actually Blastoise. It's close, but it's base 80 vs base 78 speed. That being said, idk the stats of Red's Pokemon, so maybe for him specifically his Venusaur is in fact slower than his Blastoise. Either way, I love the content and this was a great run. Keep it up!
Rather than hope for a crit vs houndoom I was expecting you to use confuse ray because that's a 50% chance and would deal enough to let you KO the next turn without Karen healing.
I hope you do hit 500K cause these challenges are great! I just shared your channel to a friend who is getting into challenge runs of Pokémon games cause you’ve got great content!
Why didn't you use Bite against Morty? It has the same base power as wing attack, but it's super effective against ghost. STAB is 1.5x damage, super effective is 2x, so it should have onehsot the Gengar, no? Or am I missing something obvious?
It probably would've been pretty similar due to Zubats lower special attack and the higher special defence of Gengar. But yeah. May have forgotten Bite was dark after doing so many Gen 1 runs haha.
@@Lambeaux0 yeah, since then i put in a crystal damage calculator, it does more damage, but only a little bit more, don't think it would have oneshotted the gengar.
You know how in the anime ash always sends most of his team to Oak when he enters a new region? The scaling in GSC really feels like they originally planned to do something like that but abandoned the idea
i would really like to see Mewtwo tear through all the versions and see how long each one takes. also be interesting to know if you can do minimum battles with him
Watching this after the Weedle episode is hurting my brain... All I could thought of during the Stats and Moves presentation was "Damn, Zubat looks good! 60 power STAB? that's very good!" (compared to Poison String 15 STAB...)
You're sleeping on bite here Jrose. Bite is the highest damaging move you have against onix and steelix without manipulating your DVs to give yourself HP ground. Plus 30% flinch? It's really good
Actually, steel resists dark in Gen 2 (until Gen 6), so wing attack with STAB is better against steelix, ignoring the flinch chance. He was definitely sleeping on bite against ghost types, though, when fighting Morty and sometimes the rival.
@@I_like_pi_ not when you factor Steelix's base 200 defence vs 65 special defence. Or onix's 160 vs 45. Sure the effective base power is higher for wing attack, but it's still physical damage vs special damage. And since zubats special attack is only 15 points lower than his physical, the total damage output to them is much higher. Even after factoring in the type and stat boosts from gym badges
@@austinmaiden4663 I totally did not take that into consideration because I was thinking of dark type as physical when it's actually special. I stand corrected.
58:20 If you think it's crazy Janine has weaker Pokémon than Koga, Blue's Pokémon are slightly lower level than his final team in Red/Blue. Amazing run, though. I'm so happy to see these videos coming out.
Jrose, I love your channel. You're the only person I enjoy watching play through an entire game. I don't know what it is, but please keep doing these runs.
i think this run might be impossible in hg/ss, i imagine that stat xp letting you max out zubat's bulk helped out a lot, and the only advantage you get in hgss is physical bite and a few new moves i guess.
Also the trainers get better movesets, better AI, and all the Kanto trainers are higher levelled, while Gen 4 also removed the badge boosts. Zubat does get quite a few better moves (including Brave Bird with egg moves), but it'll probably end up like Spinarak where Red is too strong to beat without TAS luck.
@@OmegaTyrant i forgot about the badge boosts, those are huge too. the egg moves might not even end up bring an option depending on how the zubat is obtained, jrose always just uses cheat codes to make the mon one of the starter options for example. so it might just end up being way harder with little upside, though it's be fun to watch be tried at least
@@Dark_Dusknoir You should see the Spinarak video, if you don't got the stats even trying to cheese with Double Team, Swagger, Attract, etc. ain't gonna work without TAS luck.
It's also a Special move, meaning it's running on the Base 30 Sp. Atk instead of the Base 45 Atk. You know, since we're going into factors that are obviously being accounted for and all.
I'm personally very excited to see this run. I've wanted to see how the changes in ruleset between generations affect pokemon performance for a while. As a kid, I lost so many runs to Jasmine. That Steelix is just so bloody tough unless you have a fire or fighting type. If you need a nickname for Rival 5 in this game, I'm going to suggest Rival-Final. I think that Zubat actually did surprisingly well, considering the gen 1 run. yes, it had to get to level 100 to beat Red, but against the elite 4 and the champion you didn't need to rely on self-damaging moves, and zubat itself was contributing more since you couldn't use mimic. It managed to beat the a tougher set of elite 4 without have to level up too much more. Current Gen 2 rankings: 1) Shuckle 2) Zubat 3) Wobbuffet
13:36 You said you had to use Wing Attack on Morty. Clearly your Gen 1 is showing. Bite became Dark-type in Gen 2 and would be super-effective. (That's why it's a special, not physical move.)
He said that because Wing Attack was going to do more damage than Bite, with Zubat's higher Attack and the ghosts having lower Defense, especially after the Zephyr Badge boost made his flying moves permanently 12.5% stronger.
@@OmegaTyrant At that exact moment, he said it's the only one that would affect them. After posting, I ran some rough numbers and suspected Wing Attack was still better. I forgot about the Zephyr Badge, and he may have also had Sharp Beak. If Wing Attack is not an OHKO, the flinch chance of Bite still might be worth it though.
I'll drop a comment for da algorithm. Keep up the amazing videos my dude! I slept to these for months in quarantine and still watch every new one to this day
I literally just finished this challenge 2 days ago and I didn't even know that the forretress had explosion, I didn't save in between E4 members and versed koga a couple of times and I never once saw explosion. I found it funny how you beat jasmine as it was literally exactly what I did just getting a bunch of flinches, It was cool to see the different strategies you used, however I did use items in battle so it is definitely not as difficult as your run. Kanto as always was a push over and I had extremely good luck against Red beating him on about my 3rd try as I managed to set up 6 double teams while Pikachu kept missing with thunder's terrible accuracy and I also had great confusion luck as I kept confuse ray the whole way through (I know its a really scummy strategy, but its zubat 😂😂) and the rest of his team couldn't touch me. Thanks for the videos and I'm happy you're making more gen 2 challenges💯💯
LOVING the regular uploads, just make sure you're taking care of yourself and not overworking. You're a very charismatic tuber and I hope you keep going from strength to strength. Peace :)
Thank you for your videos. I could say these videos take me back to my childhood, but that's only the tip of the iceberg. Keep up the good work and I sincerely wish your channel and following keeps growing.
15:08 I think you're actually forgetting that Gengar could hit the first Hypnosis but miss the second. It has to hit both Hypnosis, meaning excluding instantly waking up, the Crit you had, or Gengar deciding to use a different move, you had a 64% chance to beat Gengar.
I wanted to make a fan game but use a system where when you move to a new region for the first time you're fully restricted from all of your Pokemon until after the region's Elite 4 to prevent the Gold/Silver post game situation.
A Pokemon fan MMO does something like that, Pokemon lvls are restricted by your account level and each region has a seperate instance of your account, so you could be lvl 60 in Johto but in Unova you could be lvl 70. You can still use any of your Pokemon but there level is artificially dropped to match your account level for the region.
As for why that Magnemite sometimes used thunderbolt over wave, the good ai in gen 2 actually test rolls their move and if their test results in a ko, they will always use that move. Magnemite might be programmed to always set up paralysis, but if it sees a chance to kill, it will go for it. Since bolt did a bit more than half, I guess the times when she went for bolt, her test rolls were critical hits.
Honestly funny that the AI thinks "if I get a crit, I can win, I have to take that chance"
@@velvetbutterfly sorry to ruin it but the ai actually just cheats and looks at all the rolls before it decides.
@@velvetbutterfly it's using jrose logic against him lol
i think the explanation is a lot easier than that, Magnemite went for Thunderbolt after hitting itself with confusion turn 1, and the AI in gen 2 and 3 is only program to heavily favor Status condition the first turn that pokemon is on the field, if the opponent doesn't have an status condition.
Test rolls can't crit. I think gen 2 will go for a kill if it rolls one, but if it doesn't, there's a 50% chance to do a status move.
Imagine going to rock tunnel, forgetting repels and being harrased by gigachad zubats like this one... thats an image of true hell
Jrose should have nicknamed his zubat Gigachad. Don't know if it fits tho, perhaps it's too long.
Just like being harrased by gigachad Tentacools in Hoenn, hehehe
Gigachad? Is that ironic or just free-range cringe?
its worse than a high level Watchog!
Didn't that happen in Morbius? It was definitely one of the scenes I've ever seen.
I never realized how good Zubat’s backsprite is in this game!
Can't believe how fast you're making these videos and man do we appreciate your hard work
I love the consistency and the videos! I want more for my man Jrose. But I can’t be the only long time sun that scrolls past the “is it possible to beat…” videos. He just needs to sprinkle in a little something else here and there
It’s crazy how much content you can do when you do well enough to hire a personal editor.
I second this!
So true. I never scroll past a jrose11 video. I love them. It's amazing how they never get boring to me.
@@jerrypiper3936 nope! I am excited to watch whatever Pokemon content he makes every time. I much rather keep getting these, than get random "top 10" videos he doesnt actually care about making.
Your commentary is thoughtful, understandable to everyone, personal and engaging, and most of all entertaining. You manage to explain the facets of the runs and make every video unique. Been watching for a while now but keep up the great work!
Very well said. I just started watching these and the flow of the videos are great.
Can we all generate the mental image of a little bitty Zubat flying at a towering Machamp, hitting it with its wing, and the Machamp immediately faints
"towering"
Machamp is only 5'3", because GameFreak has no sense of scale.
Part of why wing attack is so good is because Gen 2 has a badge boost for types on top of stats. You get a 10% boost to attacks that match the type of a badge you have.
ive been playing pokemon for fourteen years and counting and had NO IDEA about this.
Poor Dark type.
Never knew this! Even though my first Crystal playthrough is almost 20 years ago already... hahaha
Plus it gets the ×1.5 bonus from STAB( same type attack bonus)
For any future GSC runs: South of Blackthorn there's a tree that has Mystery Berries? I think they're called. It's the only renewable source of PP restoring items, if you're patient enough with doing that clock change stuff. I've resorted to it in runs I've done in GSC with Pokemon like Chikorita. Who, despite lucking out and getting HP Fire, is still the worst.
I think north of goldenrod there is also one behind a pond
Yeah surprised he doesn’t know this
Chikorita is bad against every Johto gym leader and elite four.
I did my first gold silver run with it blind. I picked it thinking the game was giving me a hint with the looks of each Pokemon. Chikorita is cute. Totodile is a maniac. Cyndaquil looks sleepy.
i must play these games differently i really like the chikorita line
maybe not as a solo pokemon but i love it used with other pokemon as a tank/support mon
@@BlueThe1up why do you need a support Pokémon just kill things and win
I've always felt that gen 2 had "flinch chains" where a second flinch is way more likely if you get the first one.
Whitney definitely made a lot of people feel that way. "You want me to use Stomp and half your team never gets to attack? Done, fam."
I’ve noticed that too the more I play Crystal
Man, the sprites in GSC are ridiculously clean compared to RBY. I mean, that’s not a massive surprise, but these ones STILL look lovely
Also, this might have been the best run yet from a storytelling perspective
I looked down and read this comment then looked back up and he was battling a Jynx...
Still better than Gen 1, but also still nightmare fuel
A lot of GSC sprites have a certain something to them. Like summer awful like rhydon or jync some of them still look good even compared to the later sprites. Edit: even ride on this kind of endearing it reminds me of the really low end Godzilla suits from the '60s films
Gen2 is still the best generation in terms of added improvements to the previous gen
@@PresidentScrooge no I was going to be contrarian and say two and three but you know honestly generation one like barely worked so yeah you're right
the yellow designs are also much better tbh
I wonder what item you had on Zubat during the Red fight. Pink Bow to boost Return? Lefties for constant passive HP recovery? Mint Berry for instant wakeup from Rest? Or...uh, did you kind of forget the item and make this harder than you needed to?
Yeeeeah, I was thinking that too."It's so important that we don't get paralyzed." Oh, okay, so you're going to equip a przcureberry, right? No? Uhhhhhhh.....
It is pretty easy to forget.
This is a cool idea. Taking a Pokemon you did in another generation and seeing how it does in a different game. Also, setting hidden power does not bother me at all. You are testing how a Pokemon does anyway. As long as the EVs are correct for the element though because if not its not an accurate test.
Fun thing to note about GSC specifically, when you get a badge of a type you get a baby STAB boost to that badge's type! The bonus is 12.5%, which makes wing attack have basically the same power as return after real STAB.
Holy crap i didn't know. Zero mention of that in the games
@@nykita427 Not 100% sure, but I think it was mentioned in the booklet that came with the game back in the day. I think there was a page showing all gym leaders and what you get for defeating them, and something along the lines "makes xxx type moves a bit stronger" could have been there
Ah, that's neat! But have you considered that Return is also affected by the mini-STAB, as Whitney is the Normal type gym leader?
@@Hoxeel oh shoot, I did not. That would make max power return a roughly 115 base power move. Good catch!
I suspect that the badges in GSC are infused with Infinity Energy of that specific type.
JRose is like an old friend that you always look forward to hearing their crazy adventure stories
@@rkkzjj32 - Sigh... At least SOMEONE likes you, even if it's just an imaginary friend. =')
@@mokarokas-1727 heh I see what you did there ^^
Playing Gold/Silver/Crystal growing up, Zubat was always my flyer because I thought Crobat was cooler than Fearow or Pidgeot...I remember the early-game pain well
pidgeot is best birdy, zubat is trash until it turns to crobat
@@bradhaines3142 fearow has already been proven to be superior to Pidgeot just has better HP
Love seeing solo challenges in non-Gen 1 games!
Oh yeah? Well I love seeing solo challenges in gen 1 games so suck on that
@@bradlauk1419 but there are only 151 possibilities
@@bradlauk1419 woah man
@@bradlauk1419 Everyone can have their own preferences. Dont need to be a jerk about it.,
Gen II is so easy though, until red
I just got into bed, but I guess I'm staying up for an extra hour!
Felt this rn😭
Felt this hard, 2 am
I just got out of bed (it's 9 AM for me).
3am, go to lay down and see this video pop up. I feel ya!
Same bro
My boy, your vids are constantly scoring more views, than you have subs. 500k are more than possible: the channel is amazing! The quality, the jokes, the presentation! All top notch!
The Spinarak video has really changed the complexion of this video series for the better. I have no idea how they'll end and am on my seat at the end!
Hope we can see some more Pokemon Crystal on the channel! Game holds a special place in my heart, could never beat it as a kid until I grew up, my favorite generation. Unironically loved Chikorita but all the starters are super memorable, in my opinion. Thanks for the videos!
Chikorita is my favorite Johto starter and one of my favorite starters in general. Nice to see someone else loving it, I get sick of it being trashed all the time. =P
@@CelticGuardian7 Same, I like Chikorita too!
@@Dragonite43 ^5 =)
I find it interesting that Zubat beat the Pokemon League at the same level here that it did in Red/Blue, despite the Champion's Pokemon being 15 levels lower. Better movepools and better AI really does make for a much tougher challenge.
It’s also funny that it managed to beat Red at all despite the massive level spike: the power of being able to use a Setup move and not constantly weakening yourself with Recoil
At one time I was worried you were gone for good when you didn't upload for a while, but now you are just on fire. Great videos just keep coming almost faster than I can watch them!
13:28 - Jrose gets a friendly koffing come up to him, to tell him that he saw the legendaries too. That face on koffing was hilarious.
I appreciate how detailed your gaming footage is. As a pixel artist there's something so pleasing about seeing how clear and juicy you make the pixels look
500k is definitely not unrealistic!! your content is consistently top of class and your fanbase is truly dedicated and loves watching your content. How many other RUclipsrs can publish multiple 1+ hr long videos/week and say that??
Yeah! If I can reach the herculean heights of 49 subscribers he can do anything.
I kid of course I have total faith that JRose can crush this
I had a really hard day today. Had to take my kid to the hospital and drive to do additional tasks after she was released. As silly as it sounds, this video is the perfect mix of calming and entertaining. Exactly the cleanse I need at the end of the day. Thank you
Also, OG gen 2s balancing is crazy. 7th gym leader with a level 27. wat???
@@josephcihak8458 yeah gen 2 has an insanely awful level curve. It makes the game feel agonizingly slow.
The remakes fix it a little bit but the issue is still pretty annoying.
Amazing how you manage to keep pumping these vids out! Keep it up!
I’ve always loved your videos so I’m so happy you’ve been super consistent recently, especially since it hasn’t felt like the quality has suffered at all. Keep up the good work, man! I clicked the notification bell so I can see them sooner lol
wow nice! you really are pumping them out! love it!
also 50 seconds after the upload I clicked on it, my personal record for finding a new video shortly after it came up
Time for another Late Night Jrose video!! Love the consistency my man! Keep up the great work!
My boy j rose. Thank you for the wonderful content this late. I always love a good run man. Keep up the great work.
58:34 It's because she's new: she replaced Koga, and is Koga's niece(?), and is just starting out in the Gym Leader business, so there's actually a lore explanation for Janine being so weak. She's just new to the job, is all. In terms of the level scaling in gen 2, though, which is already horky-borky, yeah, it's a real head-scratcher that she would possess a level 33 Pokemon.
Depending on your Atk vs Sp ATK stats, Bite might've been more powerful than Wing Attack against Morty since it's Dark and Ghost is weak against Dark, plus it has a chance to flinch.
Though Gengar's Sp Def is higher than Def, and Zubat's ATK is higher than it's Sp ATK, so it's possible that Wing Attack was still doing more damage, even though STAB is only 1.5X while Super Effective is 2X; but the chance of flinching is really nice
Came here to say exactly the same thing.
Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't try bite against Morty, especially since he said that only wing attack would hit. Probably forgot that it changed from normal in gen 1 to dark in gen 2
Hey Jrose, for the Karen fight, isn't confuse ray on the houndoom basically a 50/50 to win the fight as opposed to the low odds of a crit? If the Houndoom hits itself in confusion that solves your range issues and curse won't do more damage than flamethrower.
It's not 50/50 because it has to check twice but it's better than crit chance
@@tesladrew2608 100% hit chance on confuse ray, 50% chance for hurting itself in confusion securing the kill on the 2nd attack....? That's a 50/50 isn't it?
I don't think setting your Hidden Power is cheating. You're testing how well a Pokemon can do, might as well give it all of its available tools
For sure, he could just reset and check on pkhex for 3 hours, or he could just set his stats to a reasonable IV value that give him what he is looking for
Ye normally jrose says that he can give himself the perfect Pokémon for each run, but he won't do it
I personally think HP should just be banned. It's obviously a great move but every mon can learn it and use it to overcome its biggest obstacle easily, and that makes it a less interesting video imo.
@@awesomesis a less interesting video is one where the run just gets walled by a single fight and spends the next 30 minutes praying for a 1 in billion chance sequence
Not to mention. He already doesn’t use items in battle and is using a **zubat**
HP Ghost would also have had a niche in this run since unlike Bite it would be a physical move. Against Will, Morty and some other trainers using Psychic and Ghost types it would have used Zubat's better Attack and their worse Defense.
Hearing the excitement in this man voice as the video progresses is just so awesome the genuine enthusiasm is so contagious that I was cheering on with him!! Gooooo Zubat!!!
Love this series! I appreciate the frequent upload schedule, I hope you found a rhythm that lets you work without burning out!
Zubat is my favorite all time Pokémon! Thank you for your dedication to the cause in a gen where Zubat had so little.
Confuse Ray flinch cheese for life
Nice! Gens two, and to a lesser extent three, are my favorites. Keep them coming!
Same. Gen 5 is pretty good too
What a run man, I love the videos and the quality of them hasn’t dropped at all since the more frequent videos. Thank you Jrose for the insane passion you have for these
Checking RUclips in the morning (Germany) and seeing a new JRose video is always a nice surprise! Will watch it in the evening!
I absolutely loved that you turned on animations for the red fight. Love your spirit, do anything to keep up your spirits.
Love the creativity with these runs, and I really admire the consistent quality of your videos! :)
I liked how you sounded disappointed there for a minute because people probably didn't say Wing Attack when you said what are we going to use next. Then saying you appreciated the ones that did. Classic JRose.
I gotta say, lately I've been watching another solo runner and you're by far the superior one. You've ruined me for pokémon videos, because you've set super high standard. Love your work, love your channel. And I gotta say - I like that you're not uploading like crazy, because your videos are super long and I gotta maintain some life apart from RUclips.
Keep up the great work!
Road to 500k! I remember when you did your first of these runs. We knew it was going to be a hit, but man with the good quality content, they're really making you work for your subs. You see reposters and clone/mimic accs getting tens of millions for stealing vids and copying content. Smfh
Keep it up and goodness will follow!
Please keep the content coming! I play your videos in the background throughout the day.
Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20.
Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho.
Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!
500K for the quality you make is definitely not unrealistic ! Rooting for you J !
One thing I think might make those videos a bit more interesting would be a whiteout/reset counter. Just to really hammer home how tough some of those runs are.
Brother, you will hit 500k subs one day. Been subscribed for about 2.5 years so far and I know you got it my man.
I always find myself getting excited when you do in these videos lol I'm hoping like hell you hit 500K! You're too good not to! 🙂 thanks for all the great content JRose!
Keep it up Jrose and you'll get your subs for sure. Your content is amazing dude. I find it awesome that your able to talk as much as you do without swearing. My driver's Ed teacher once said "people who swear all the time just aren't smart enough to think of another word to use instead of a swear" and that stuck with me. Now I appreciate people who can communicate without swearing lol well done
These videos are a lot of fun. Thanks my dude!
As a Zubat apologist (Crobat being my second favorite Pokemon of all time), loving this content. Thanks for the suffering for my entertainment.
It’s genuinely amazing that you dedicate so much time into making these videos for our entertainment. Thanks so much for your hard work :)
I like that you always name the rival in these games "???". It's what I did the first time I played too 😅
You have provided so many hours of entertainment that I think a comment is only appropriate. Your content is awesome and this video is no exception! I dropped a like too! Hope you hit 500k by 2023, JRose :)
Wondering how the red battle would go with return, wing attack, curse, and rest. Get through the pikachu and the espeon with return hope that the espeon goes for reflect then set up with curse as many times as possible since snorlax only has physical moves once you are set up you can rest off the damage on snorlax and since you weren’t out speeding the starters anyways it should be one hits fully set up after you kill snorlax.
And he should equip an item of some kind
Jrose11 you can definitely reach 500k subs. I think the biggest issue you had in getting new subs is the previously large gaps in your content releases but now that you are putting more vids out regularly I have a feeling your sub count will climb. Personally I find you to be the best poketuber out there. You actually get excited when things work and the strats you use are all very clever. Keep it up man and you will keep climbing.
Gosh, every upload from you is such a treat! Seems like you've found a really good rhythm, and that you're really enjoying yourself. Thanks for the awesome content! What a fun run!
Hope your mental health is doing alright bro!!! Thanks for the awesome vid as always. I picked up pokemon emerald the other day and, thanks to your videos and some nuzlockes, I approach pokemon COMPLETELY different now. Thanks again bro
YESSS I'M COOOOMINNGGGG NGHHHHH MORE SOLO RUNSSSSSSSSS (seriously though really appreciate your work in these, these kick so much ass! Just make sure you don't get too burnt out with these and take a break when you need it dawg 👍)
So despite Zubat being kinda bad, Zubat IS able to beat Red in GSC. NICE! X3
I guess I now wonder if Zubat will continue visiting other generations of Pokemon, given what JRose mentioned at the end of this video.
51:30 I think Confuse Ray is better here. There's only a ~6.64% chance of a Crit (according to Bulbapedia) in Gen 2. Getting 2 hit-self-in-confusion is a 25% chance which is better odds even with Confuse Ray's accuracy.
I'm pretty sure he only needs one hit in confusion, as the damage may enable him to ko in one return
During the Red fight you mentioned that Venusaur is the slowest Kanto starter, but it's actually Blastoise. It's close, but it's base 80 vs base 78 speed. That being said, idk the stats of Red's Pokemon, so maybe for him specifically his Venusaur is in fact slower than his Blastoise. Either way, I love the content and this was a great run. Keep it up!
Wow is that a Zubat? I've neve actually seen one in game.
It's event exclusive
Only found in Mt. moon on Fridays between 12am and 3am, and only a 2% chance a spawn will be a zubat
Isn’t Zubat one of those PokéGods everyone was on about back in the 90s?
@@rainpooper7088 yeah, and star of the first pokemon movie i believe
What an ending! Maaaan this was another great run, ZuZu is one of my faves for sure - glad it came through with the win.
Rather than hope for a crit vs houndoom I was expecting you to use confuse ray because that's a 50% chance and would deal enough to let you KO the next turn without Karen healing.
I hope you do hit 500K cause these challenges are great! I just shared your channel to a friend who is getting into challenge runs of Pokémon games cause you’ve got great content!
Why didn't you use Bite against Morty? It has the same base power as wing attack, but it's super effective against ghost. STAB is 1.5x damage, super effective is 2x, so it should have onehsot the Gengar, no? Or am I missing something obvious?
Dark is special prior to Gen 4 so it would be using an attacking stat that's far less high on Zubat
He may be used to Bite being Normal type like it is in R/B/Y and didn't even consider it?
It probably would've been pretty similar due to Zubats lower special attack and the higher special defence of Gengar. But yeah. May have forgotten Bite was dark after doing so many Gen 1 runs haha.
@@Lambeaux0 yeah, since then i put in a crystal damage calculator, it does more damage, but only a little bit more, don't think it would have oneshotted the gengar.
Plus Gengar had better SpD
Man I love these videos because I would never do an zubat only run myself love your content dude❤️
I was thinking “How anticlimactic would it be if Red’s Venusaur used solar beam?” Then it happened lol
You know how in the anime ash always sends most of his team to Oak when he enters a new region? The scaling in GSC really feels like they originally planned to do something like that but abandoned the idea
I actually got up and clapped my hands after zubat won against red. What a run. Keep up the good work.
this is one of your best runs honestly! i cant wait for more crystal runs in the future
i would really like to see Mewtwo tear through all the versions and see how long each one takes. also be interesting to know if you can do minimum battles with him
by versions i mean g/s/c then R/S/E not like blue then red.
Wonder if Gen 3 minimum battles would be possible, given how little exp they give you.
Watching this after the Weedle episode is hurting my brain... All I could thought of during the Stats and Moves presentation was "Damn, Zubat looks good! 60 power STAB? that's very good!" (compared to Poison String 15 STAB...)
You're sleeping on bite here Jrose. Bite is the highest damaging move you have against onix and steelix without manipulating your DVs to give yourself HP ground. Plus 30% flinch? It's really good
Actually, steel resists dark in Gen 2 (until Gen 6), so wing attack with STAB is better against steelix, ignoring the flinch chance. He was definitely sleeping on bite against ghost types, though, when fighting Morty and sometimes the rival.
@@I_like_pi_ not when you factor Steelix's base 200 defence vs 65 special defence. Or onix's 160 vs 45. Sure the effective base power is higher for wing attack, but it's still physical damage vs special damage. And since zubats special attack is only 15 points lower than his physical, the total damage output to them is much higher. Even after factoring in the type and stat boosts from gym badges
@@austinmaiden4663 I totally did not take that into consideration because I was thinking of dark type as physical when it's actually special. I stand corrected.
@@I_like_pi_ Just gen 2 problems am I right?
Imagine a small bat biting a 9 meter steel snake haha, Zubat must have one hell of a dentist to take care of it
Most people never really realize it, but miltank has a really good base speed.
Makes a dang good baton pass receiver, in part, for that also
Showdown players know it :P
Miltank 🤝 Purugly
Super fat but really fast for some reason
@@Naxafa Catches me off guard every single time.
58:20 If you think it's crazy Janine has weaker Pokémon than Koga, Blue's Pokémon are slightly lower level than his final team in Red/Blue.
Amazing run, though. I'm so happy to see these videos coming out.
Thank you for all this content good sir. especially with these past few pokemon sure it wasn't easy. 👍👍👍
Jrose, I love your channel. You're the only person I enjoy watching play through an entire game. I don't know what it is, but please keep doing these runs.
Wow now that you mention it, I only watch full play throughs of jrose and TAS runs. And I enjoy jrose's much more
i think this run might be impossible in hg/ss, i imagine that stat xp letting you max out zubat's bulk helped out a lot, and the only advantage you get in hgss is physical bite and a few new moves i guess.
Also the trainers get better movesets, better AI, and all the Kanto trainers are higher levelled, while Gen 4 also removed the badge boosts. Zubat does get quite a few better moves (including Brave Bird with egg moves), but it'll probably end up like Spinarak where Red is too strong to beat without TAS luck.
@@OmegaTyrant i forgot about the badge boosts, those are huge too. the egg moves might not even end up bring an option depending on how the zubat is obtained, jrose always just uses cheat codes to make the mon one of the starter options for example. so it might just end up being way harder with little upside, though it's be fun to watch be tried at least
Confuse Ray, Double Team, Air Slash, Return (or with Hypnosis). I'm saying it will be possible.
@@Dark_Dusknoir You should see the Spinarak video, if you don't got the stats even trying to cheese with Double Team, Swagger, Attract, etc. ain't gonna work without TAS luck.
@@OmegaTyrant I agree with that ''Luck'', but I just think that if i will use save/load 1 000 000 000x it must work at least once. :D
After all that training, Red still is getting harassed by zubats like he was a noob in Mt Moon
Bite's a Dark type from Gen II on. Depending on stats, it can actually be better than a STAB Wing Attack when dealing with foes that are weak to Dark.
He knows that, he mentions it during the Jasmine battle.
It's also a Special move, meaning it's running on the Base 30 Sp. Atk instead of the Base 45 Atk. You know, since we're going into factors that are obviously being accounted for and all.
I'm personally very excited to see this run. I've wanted to see how the changes in ruleset between generations affect pokemon performance for a while.
As a kid, I lost so many runs to Jasmine. That Steelix is just so bloody tough unless you have a fire or fighting type.
If you need a nickname for Rival 5 in this game, I'm going to suggest Rival-Final.
I think that Zubat actually did surprisingly well, considering the gen 1 run. yes, it had to get to level 100 to beat Red, but against the elite 4 and the champion you didn't need to rely on self-damaging moves, and zubat itself was contributing more since you couldn't use mimic. It managed to beat the a tougher set of elite 4 without have to level up too much more.
Current Gen 2 rankings:
1) Shuckle
2) Zubat
3) Wobbuffet
Rival-Final haha that's cute
13:36 You said you had to use Wing Attack on Morty. Clearly your Gen 1 is showing. Bite became Dark-type in Gen 2 and would be super-effective. (That's why it's a special, not physical move.)
Happy someone else noticed. Thought I was losing my mind for a second.
He said that because Wing Attack was going to do more damage than Bite, with Zubat's higher Attack and the ghosts having lower Defense, especially after the Zephyr Badge boost made his flying moves permanently 12.5% stronger.
@@OmegaTyrant At that exact moment, he said it's the only one that would affect them. After posting, I ran some rough numbers and suspected Wing Attack was still better. I forgot about the Zephyr Badge, and he may have also had Sharp Beak.
If Wing Attack is not an OHKO, the flinch chance of Bite still might be worth it though.
I'll drop a comment for da algorithm. Keep up the amazing videos my dude! I slept to these for months in quarantine and still watch every new one to this day
I literally just finished this challenge 2 days ago and I didn't even know that the forretress had explosion, I didn't save in between E4 members and versed koga a couple of times and I never once saw explosion. I found it funny how you beat jasmine as it was literally exactly what I did just getting a bunch of flinches, It was cool to see the different strategies you used, however I did use items in battle so it is definitely not as difficult as your run. Kanto as always was a push over and I had extremely good luck against Red beating him on about my 3rd try as I managed to set up 6 double teams while Pikachu kept missing with thunder's terrible accuracy and I also had great confusion luck as I kept confuse ray the whole way through (I know its a really scummy strategy, but its zubat 😂😂) and the rest of his team couldn't touch me. Thanks for the videos and I'm happy you're making more gen 2 challenges💯💯
I'll bet you completed it in 5 minutes too
500K is not unrealistic for you dude. Your content is limitless in terms of what you deserve bro! You’ll get there! Keep grinding my dude! ❤️
hello jrose
thanks for the nice content as always!
More of my favorite Pokémon! God speed, little buddy
A gen 3 run with smeargle would be interesting 🤔
LOVING the regular uploads, just make sure you're taking care of yourself and not overworking. You're a very charismatic tuber and I hope you keep going from strength to strength. Peace :)
Babe wake up! New Jrose
Thank you for your videos. I could say these videos take me back to my childhood, but that's only the tip of the iceberg.
Keep up the good work and I sincerely wish your channel and following keeps growing.
15:08 I think you're actually forgetting that Gengar could hit the first Hypnosis but miss the second. It has to hit both Hypnosis, meaning excluding instantly waking up, the Crit you had, or Gengar deciding to use a different move, you had a 64% chance to beat Gengar.
Oh its a beautiful day when jrose uploads. Your upload frequency and video quality is incredible.
I wanted to make a fan game but use a system where when you move to a new region for the first time you're fully restricted from all of your Pokemon until after the region's Elite 4 to prevent the Gold/Silver post game situation.
A Pokemon fan MMO does something like that, Pokemon lvls are restricted by your account level and each region has a seperate instance of your account, so you could be lvl 60 in Johto but in Unova you could be lvl 70. You can still use any of your Pokemon but there level is artificially dropped to match your account level for the region.