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promise a game.. sell a game with 1 ranked map promising more to come, and u think ur money paid means u get the "extra" maps since its 1/5th of a game. then they charge 20-30 bucks for every map and ship with each update, cos by then, they will say its extra.. u already paid for a "full game"
Did I enjoy it for the first 2 hours yeah. But then the cracks start showing, Only being able to stand in 1 position to view your fighter was a dissapointment, not crucial. but a dissappointment. This is just a remake of 1 of the modes from Original Battlefront 2 over a decade ago on dice's engine. Ship Scaling could be better, and in coop , other than the other squadron, the wrest of the ships on either sides just fly in a route with the occasional off engagement, very scripted and on rails feel from observation. instead of a full swarm dogfight that you see in star wars. AND the old BF2 you could land inside the enemy ships and fight in a FPS to destroy stuff from the inside. The ship customizations were meh at best, I cant say the game was a dissappointment, But IMO it wasnt AMAZING!!! either.
I'm gonna need you to be honest with me here. If I removed all the words between you and criticizing and then replace the ing in criticizing with an e, would the comment be just as accurate to your feelings?
After Battlefront 2 I've learned they have some very talented people working there even if we hate a lot of their practices. Shocked there's no microtransactions though.
The game is short and simple with a terrible story. This is half a game. This is what is called a "Minimum Viable Product". The bare minimum to satisfy a customer. The Star Wars veneer is where half the time and budget went into. The story is an extended tutorial. How many times can you replay 2 games modes (where one isn't good) and 3 maps? Only 5 v 5. No 20 v 20. No asymmetric game modes, nothing!
@@samhyatt4863 With the amount of times they've just strait up lied in the past, I don't think we can just accept that statement at face value. Perhaps Disney put enough fear behind the threat of losing the license after their last colossal screw-up to make them keep their word, but I wouldn't put my money on it (I'm literally not...I'm waiting a few months or more to purchase, if I buy it at all...they've lost too much of my trust).
"Anyway, I DIGRESS" No problem, I totally understand how you feel. Most of us do. It's hard talking about modern Star Wars without feeling bad by the gigantic missed opportunity the new trilogy is.
People are still super pissed about the sequel trilogy almost a year after it ended and will go out of their to shit on it. I watched none of them, only watched Rogue One of all the post-Lucas Star Wars movies, and generally didn’t think too much of the series growing up but watched them because everyone else did. But I never tire of seeing that fan rage because it’s fascinating to see, it’s funny, and you don’t have to be a fan to understand that it lacked a vision and was corporate as fuck. Also JJ Abrams is a hack.
I can’t get mad at diverse representation in shows and movies as long as they doesn’t interfere with the quality. Some of them will beat you over the head with their importance but others just let the work speak for itself. In terms of big name, multi billion dollar franchise IPs, it’s really just there for checkmarks on Twitter and clickbait about how This Is What We Need Right Now In The Age Of Trump. Most people won’t and shouldn’t give a shit.
I dont get the hate, i enjoyed it. But also i wasn't trying to see or bring up the "politics" in its creation. Its a movie.....enjoy it or dont. People are pissed at the fact its a female lead, (and lot more female actors and scenes) or pissed about the story which is very similar to the original, yet no one complains about the original. I think people hate just to hate. Its fine if someone doesnt like something, but for to call it a travesty, a waste of space, trash or whatever else is a little dumb
It smells like a peace offering to Disney, "Look, we can make sellable Star Wars games, please let us keep the money printing license!" and then as soon as they get an extension it's back to surprise mechanics wrapped in gameskins.
I really hope this blows up and sells big so the company can see this and go... Huh we should keep this game alive and add more modes maps and starfighters. Also i would love the game to have 10 v 10 mode instead of 5 v 5, giving both sides more to work with, one squad can be officive focused while the other can be support bomber focused. And battles on planet surface or in clouds would be really cool.
@ 'I hope it blows up so they can add more features' 'I hope it doesnt, and stays shallow and featurless' Bruh, did you even listen to what he was saying? You are both talking about the lack of features, yet only one of you is optimistic and hopes for improvement. People like you need more hugs or some shit so you arent so damn cynical.
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@@rebotsomat sadly , thats usually not how works , they already decided if they will continue developing it or jump to the next game
@ uh? im not a fanboy, im just saying that his vision of what could happen to squadrons is what happened to battlefront 2, which turned into a good game after EA listened. Im just saying its possible, while you came in and were like 'no' without a good reason to be like that. The fact that this game even got made is a miracle, since the genre isnt exactly bursting with popularity.
sometimes i can understand why it’ll be 5v5, if you played battlefield games like Air Superiority or War Thunder most dogfights with a lot of players tend to become 5 players chasing one plane and its a dogpiling experience, remember BF4 jets? well sometimes more is not better.
@@rebotsomat They make far too much money of MTX unless it becomes illegal or adult only they won't change, this is just for their public image." We're changing guys"
Does anyone else love re watching his long reviews just for entertainment value alone. And then a new one comes out Me: idk if I am even interested in this style of game or even planning on buying it, might aswell spend an hour watching a 20 minute video in a span of a month.
we all know what's going to happen now.... Star Wars Squadron won't exactly meet quarter expectations, EA will shift the blame on Motive, they will force them to create a "LIVE SERVICE" shitshow and they will be shut down...
This is one of those games that looks great, and is interesting, and is an IP I like, but I will never play it because I suck at easy flying games so there's no way I'm the target audience for something like this. But I'm glad it got made and hope it does well. Thanks for another great review, Ralph!
Take it from someone who only recently got into this genre with Ace Combat 7, everyone sucks when they first get into these kinds of games, the amount of stuff to keep track of while flying is just rly hard, actually mastering them is incredibly satisfying tho.
@@TheSpeep I was new to this genre as well with Ace Combat 7. Loved the single player campaign but the multiplayer is too hectic of a dogfight. You're nonstop getting warning about missiles locking on and have to constantly maneouver like crazy. That actually turned me off from this game seeing that it could be another hectic air (space) combat. Or maybe I'm just terrible at it.
The bane of flight games... HOTAS+VR is the true way to play it. I wish I had the cash to buy both 😂 For now, I'll just settle for a fun, solid, SW starfighter game.
Skill Up is so ridiculously convincing: i don't like VR, i don't like Star Wars, and i don't like shooting games, but he makes me feel like i should play this.
@@gaywoman420 Probably because it's not comfortable. A lot of people have problems with VR due to simulation sickness. Some people get sick just playing something like this on a flatscreen, much less in VR. You can get your "VR legs" but getting there is tough for some people and many don't think it is worth it.
This is the first game I've played in years in which I can genuinely FEEL myself getting better at it. Changing power levels, adjusting shields, switching target types, microdrifting, checking my range, pinging attackers, retreating to safety, flying inside enemy capital ship shields... It all is slowly, consciously becoming an inherent part every flight. My only major complaint is that I wish the targeting wheel was integrated into the ship interior. I would also love to see how the game looks with the brackets and targeting reticle disabled for a true instruments-only experience. Anyway, I haven't used a joystick for a game since Episode 1 Racer on PC way back in 1999. Squadrons has convinced me to save up for a HOTAS setup, provided I can even find one at this point (seeing as how this and Microsoft Flight Sim have resulted in many sellers being completely sold out).
Yea, I have been having a blast with this game in VR. As I wrap up the single player story, and have played dozens of hours of fleet battles at this point I am starting to want more environments, ships, and little ship interior decorations to play with. I hate that EA finally gives us what we want, a game without all those traps and microtransactions, and now I am just dreaming about all of the potential cool stuff they could add. Its too bad that they cant just start ripping out environments from battlefront to bring into this game, even if it just fills out the multiplayer modes.
Skill Up: I dunno what this ship is called Me: That would be the Tie Reaper, which was introduced in Rogue One, Was used as a personal ship by the 6th Sister in Fallen Order.
You know you can change the control scheme on controllers to “aviator” that puts roll and pitch on R3 and yaw and throttle on L3, combined that with inverted pitch and boom! It feels like ace combat. So it was pretty ignorant just throwing controller under the bus.
I didn’t even hear about what Hotas was until I watched this, and I am definitely going to save to purchase it so I can experience what PEAK PERFORMANCE feels like.
To be fair to EA, I picked up my first Need For Speed in years with 'Heat' due to it's lack of nonsense or cards or whatever. So the efforts to steer the ship right have been showing up already I think.
NFS Heat is arguably some of the most fun I've had with a racing game in a very long time. It's just a solid game, with a surprisingly solid story (if a bit short).
Every time you do a Star Wars game review I am reminded you are one of *those* fans. Good review of the game, though. I'm not a Rogue Squadron fan, and I stuck with being a Trooper/Jedi and not playing the vehicle modes in BF2, but I'm super interested now!
Going forward, I really hope AAA companies make mid-priced games free of bullshit like EA has done with Squadrons and 2K has done with the Xcom game that released earlier this year. Given the fact that the AAA cartel decided that $70 needs to be the shell price for next generation and the next Depression on the way, I’d even go so far as to say it’s necessary.
@@TheREALHugo4 Darksiders, Space Marine, Mercenaries 2. Games that are solid, fun, and well made, but aren't big budget blockbusters and won't ever be classics
The thing you don't get is that this game is litterally a remaster of old X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-wing VS Tie Fighter and X-wing Aliance games. The hangar, the energy management, Joystick controls come from there. They removed the blasters mode to put their customization options here instead. They also removed B-wings and Tie advanced (right call, they were over-powered). Apart from that, good job ! Thank you for your hard work !
6:30 No no no no no. You can't go on that mini rant and end it there. Now you gotta make a whole review for the new trilogy. Please, id love to see a 40min+ vid of you explicitly pointing out all the narrative problems with it.
It looks pretty cool, good to see EA making a game worth playing. It's clear that Squadrons was inspired by the classic combat sims, which brings me some memories of playing Freespace... I really hope these games will get remakes.
I get it, he is younger than me, but it still hurts if he talks about the "complexity" of this game when there was X-Wing and Tie-Fighter back in the day. Good times and still unparalleled.
It's got all the complexity of X-Wing and TIE Fighter with the EWS systems, inspecting ships, missiles, countermeasures and a bit more, plus it gave energy management some well needed rebalancing.
If they don't do a sequel they should go back to what games used to do and release expansion packs that were almost full games on there own (in most cases) a clone wars expansion would be amazing
It's so nice seeing actual good media coming from Star Wars in the recent years. The Clone Wars returning, the Mandalorian, the revamp of Battlefront 2, and now this. Least we have good content outside of the recent mainline franchise. Edit: Forgot to add Fallen order to the list as well, my bad.
Dang, they really love the "imperial defector" plot these days huh... This, Rogue One (Bodhi Rook), Battlefront 2(Iden Versio), and the new trilogy(Fin) all rely on this as strong story element.
@Wow so Edgy you gotta look at things differently. not everyone read the books, and movies almost never get the books right. the cult attached to the original trilogy need to have a little more of an open mind. its a movie, designed to entertain. 1-3 done in the early 2000s were actually good movies, and after the abominations that was 7-9, most people agree. sure it wasnt the underdog that came from nowhere like it was in the 70s, and the didnt have to literally invent new techniques to achieve some proper effects for them, but they were still good. far as im concerned if it doesnt have glaring plot holes, awful effect, or too much mental gymnastics, its not hard to like a movie without comparing it to something 40 years old
I'm inclined to give it a slide, since you aren't playing as the defector and also spend about half of the game trying to push that guy's shit in, which is kind of refreshing
I played this game 8 hours straight with a Hotas and in VR. It truly is incredible! Edit: rebind your roll to the little paddles behind the throttle, it'll give you way more control over your rolls. I played on pc with my Index, it worked fine for me.
I'm playing it on psvr, after a few days of practice I feel completely fine in the vr experience, and it's amazing! I actually want them to keep support with more content.
Currently playing this in VR with Hotas absolutely mind blowing you want to add an extra layer. Add a woojer edge vest all combined words can not describe how good of a VR experience this is.
I enjoyed the jabs at EA for actually making a good game for once. It was also fun to get the micro-insight into your views on the new Star Wars (knock-off) movies. You continue to be my absolute favorite reviewer of games, and i tend to watch most of your videos, even when i know the games are nothing I would be interested in.
Gamer: “ Wow!!! This game is so good!” EA: “ Wait..... what??? It doesn’t even have our surprise mechanics that give players the freedom of choice?!?!?!”
The shield - Engine - Weapon energy shifting, changing fire mode single, all barrels, changing shields forward-rear etc.. All explained in awe.. I guess so little amount of people have ever played or even know of X-wing (DOS game) back in 1993 where it had all those features.. yep.. *27 years* ago.. *Edit*: it even had more, like changing to ion cannons to disable targets and board them, switching to concussion missiles that were really fast or torpedoes that were slow but packed a punch.. All the missions, free to fly without following too much of a corridor you have to play in.. The tractor beams and all.. it was all there.. even the death star run.. and all from inside the cockpit without any complaints to play in 3rd person mode like the new generation craves so much.
@@samhyatt4863 sorry I was unclear, I was trying to say that they have released games in the past to good reviews and then once the review cycle is finished they have added microtransactions. A really scummy practice. Hope it's not the case here. Not like EA to actually release a reasonable priced game worth playing.
Man, I absolutely loved this game, from maxing out a U-wing to be a shield destroying nightmare to pulling off the most insane maneuvers imaginable in a Tie Interceptor, I had so much fun with the mechanics and even the story I just wish that EA could've done more with it. Like you said, ground missions every now and then and even freely walking in the hanger, combined with the already amazing amount of immersive-ness this game can give, I believe truly would've made this a game that people couldn't call themselves a Star Wars fan without playing.
I use the same hotas as you on pc, haven't had any problems with it, it works like a charm, with just a few control adjustments it was perfect, no dead zone issues at all
I don't understand the "it feels slow" complaints. 1. The OG X-Wing and TIE Fighter games were glacial in comparison, so Squadrons actually feels a lot faster than its predecessors. 2. The sense of speed feels fine when you're next to a frame a reference (like a Star Destroyer). What people are complaining about is the fact that in space there's nothing to give you the sense that you're moving (cuz it's space), and speed is relative.
Its called having different opinions. The originals felt faster. The new ones feel slower. Its not really a debate, because its about feel. It feels slow.
@@rebotsomat I understand that. But I encourage you to go back and play the originals, or even X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter and report back on the sensation of ship speed (or lack their of).
One uncovered setup in the video - I'm playing on PC, using VR (Quest) + controller. Setup works great as well - the immersion from a game like this is unmatched.
Sam Hyatt it’s not like Activision ever gives ppl a heads up before they add stuff so I have no idea why you think EA would be any different. If there’s none added by the holidays then great but otherwise you’d be a fool to trust what EA says.
DC4Life BilCaesar well i know the facts that their last two star wars games are amazing and that if they break their *promise* with this game then that will be the downfall of their company. they definitely learned their lesson. they explicitly stated with this game that there would never be any mtx or lootboxes or anything along the lines of being scummy. if they break that explicit promise then that will be their conpany’s end and they know it.
Sam Hyatt well I hope you’re right but to trust EA on their word kinda makes you look pretty gullible imo. I’m sure they’re backing off MTXs for a while due to all the surprise mechanics stuff that was laughed out of parliament etc but I think to just say “they’ve learned their lesson” is pretty close minded, I hope you’re right (for the fans sakes) but it’s guna take a lot more for me to trust EA enough to buy one of their games on launch. All this means is that they haven’t found an ACCEPTABLE way to monetise it yet that won’t piss ppl off. Maybe they learned after Fallen Orders success but you’re an idiot for taking their word for it. It’s not like publishers haven’t changed their minds in the past is it?
Thanks for this review. I’m looking to play this on PC (no vr) but Ultrawide. I guess I’ll wait for the patches ... but I’ll look forward to it. Appreciate the comprehensive coverage across gameplay methodologies. Most other reviewers say something like: “there are a bunch of ways to play it - I only played it this way.”
I enjoyed the missions. The story was utter dog shit. Bland flat characters I didn't care about. Overall disappointing that I had no desire to replay missions. 7/10
Aye, the campaign was both short and both sides were in the same campaign. Story was uninteresting and conversations with squadron mates felt pointless. Why can't we have a starwars story that doesn't revolve around a bloody superweapon and imperial defectors
I disagree. On xbox at least, challenges dont work properly. Achievments dont unlock, i beat the story mode, wheres my achievment? And multiplayer gets boring fast.
If we can have 2 ea's, one that rips off people with sports games and the other that creates high quality games with ips like star wars, I'd be down for that.
So this is basically Freespace 3 in a Star Wars universe. Nice! Loved that game back in the day. There is even the same mechanic of redirecting power to the engine/shields/weapons.
It's a decent game that pretty much did what it promised. Though having been brought up by the X-Wing series, it sadly comes up way short to filling that 20 year old void.
@@TheFlypaste im not talking about that. Im talking about the overall sense of speed, which is not the same as the previous games. Also, your comment is very presumptive, as the power system shifting from the originals is precisely the reason I even got this. Try not to be so cynical.
I know my opinion is probably highly unpopular, but I did not like Star Wars: Squadrons. I thought the flight controls were crap, the story was meh, and the hud, cockpit and instrumentation design is overly generic and basic. I suppose the game scratches an itch for those that really want to dog fight in Star Wars ships but otherwise it's not worth the money and there are better space dog fighting games out there. I am however, biased because I think Star Wars media in general is getting incredibly boring and disappointing. Maybe it's just Star Wars fatigue after being being runover by the Star Wars hype train repeatedly for decades but it's all just getting to be same old same old to me.
Was looking at this for some flight fun but I've never been a fan of SW. If the flight is average and the story/gameplay is threadbare, it's probably not even worth $10 personally. Thanks for the warning!
I've seen several videos that mention the "deadzone" for HOTAS on PC...it can be adjusted in game settings, I set it to 100 (50 by default) and I've had no issues
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promise a game.. sell a game with 1 ranked map promising more to come, and u think ur money paid means u get the "extra" maps since its 1/5th of a game. then they charge 20-30 bucks for every map and ship with each update, cos by then, they will say its extra.. u already paid for a "full game"
What about M+K??
:'(
Yeah playing on Xbox One, I immediately switched the roll from left stick to right stick, bc it's unplayable for me otherwise lol
Did I enjoy it for the first 2 hours yeah. But then the cracks start showing, Only being able to stand in 1 position to view your fighter was a dissapointment, not crucial. but a dissappointment. This is just a remake of 1 of the modes from Original Battlefront 2 over a decade ago on dice's engine. Ship Scaling could be better, and in coop , other than the other squadron, the wrest of the ships on either sides just fly in a route with the occasional off engagement, very scripted and on rails feel from observation. instead of a full swarm dogfight that you see in star wars. AND the old BF2 you could land inside the enemy ships and fight in a FPS to destroy stuff from the inside. The ship customizations were meh at best, I cant say the game was a dissappointment, But IMO it wasnt AMAZING!!! either.
I liked the way you transformed from a game review to criticizing the sequel trilogy.
Well deserved
I'm gonna need you to be honest with me here. If I removed all the words between you and criticizing and then replace the ing in criticizing with an e, would the comment be just as accurate to your feelings?
Can't blame him. Lot of people are pissed off by the sequel trilogy and it will not be forgotten anytime soon.
Lol
He just spitting fax
When EA makes a good MT-free game at a fair price, you know 2020 is literally the year that hell froze over.
Satan took a couple of weeks off, lots of cases of the coof in hell
"This is where the fun begins."
A prequel quote? A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
I threw up in my mouth a little, not gonna lie.
It's an older quote, but it checks out.
"A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one."
A prequel quote? A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
@@sirjoey3137 This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them!
We will watch your carreer with great interest!
Here's hoping they keep expanding on this game and add more content in the future.
3 months later they'll add lootbo...oh sorry i meant surprise mechanics just wait and see
After Battlefront 2 I've learned they have some very talented people working there even if we hate a lot of their practices.
Shocked there's no microtransactions though.
B-Wing anyone? Maybe a TIE-Defender?
Leonardo pointing finger
@The Zoom Dude, Fallen Order is so much better than FU. And it´s canon
2020 is so weird that EA made a good cheap game.
Ahaha
What a twist
2020 - the year where people empathize with Joker, are afraid of Batman and EA make good games.
I hope this becomes a trend. Like, for every 3-5 bad games we get one pretty good one.
Senth I think I’d rather more consistency, why settle for less lol
"So what's the game li-"
"HOTAS AND VR"
"I don't know what that me-"
"HOTAS AND VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!"
Hands on Throttle and Stick, bro.
Virutal Reality, bro.
It's okay, bro. :D
HOTAS stands for hands on throttle and stick. its basically a stick and throttle you can buy that looks and feels like the controls of a real plane.
The game is short and simple with a terrible story. This is half a game. This is what is called a "Minimum Viable Product". The bare minimum to satisfy a customer. The Star Wars veneer is where half the time and budget went into. The story is an extended tutorial. How many times can you replay 2 games modes (where one isn't good) and 3 maps? Only 5 v 5. No 20 v 20. No asymmetric game modes, nothing!
@@tomsko863 almost everything you said was wrong 🤣
Shame HOTAS support is shit with 30% hard-set deadzone which makes aiming with joystick a real fucking mess. Hopefully they'll patch that one out.
EA: "alright, we gave SkillUp nothing to bitch about and he gave us free advertisement for our game. Patch in the MTX!"
You joke but we all know that could happen.
reignman4 it wont happen, they have already said there will not ever be any micro transactions or lootboxes, or anything scummy for that matter
I lold
@@samhyatt4863 With the amount of times they've just strait up lied in the past, I don't think we can just accept that statement at face value. Perhaps Disney put enough fear behind the threat of losing the license after their last colossal screw-up to make them keep their word, but I wouldn't put my money on it (I'm literally not...I'm waiting a few months or more to purchase, if I buy it at all...they've lost too much of my trust).
@@samhyatt4863 ♫ Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies … ♫
The theory of this game being a VR game backworked into a non VR game makes so much sense and honestly explains a lot in my head.
"Anyway, I DIGRESS"
No problem, I totally understand how you feel. Most of us do. It's hard talking about modern Star Wars without feeling bad by the gigantic missed opportunity the new trilogy is.
People are still super pissed about the sequel trilogy almost a year after it ended and will go out of their to shit on it. I watched none of them, only watched Rogue One of all the post-Lucas Star Wars movies, and generally didn’t think too much of the series growing up but watched them because everyone else did. But I never tire of seeing that fan rage because it’s fascinating to see, it’s funny, and you don’t have to be a fan to understand that it lacked a vision and was corporate as fuck.
Also JJ Abrams is a hack.
"Missed opportunity"
That's putting it mildly..
I'd use "complete garbage "
I can’t get mad at diverse representation in shows and movies as long as they doesn’t interfere with the quality. Some of them will beat you over the head with their importance but others just let the work speak for itself.
In terms of big name, multi billion dollar franchise IPs, it’s really just there for checkmarks on Twitter and clickbait about how This Is What We Need Right Now In The Age Of Trump. Most people won’t and shouldn’t give a shit.
I dont get the hate, i enjoyed it. But also i wasn't trying to see or bring up the "politics" in its creation. Its a movie.....enjoy it or dont. People are pissed at the fact its a female lead, (and lot more female actors and scenes) or pissed about the story which is very similar to the original, yet no one complains about the original. I think people hate just to hate. Its fine if someone doesnt like something, but for to call it a travesty, a waste of space, trash or whatever else is a little dumb
@@DarkNight3603 it was garbage.
"Good Job EA...?" I'm gonna have a difficult time getting use to this.
Dont worry, you wont need to
Yeah, the game is totally unplayable in VR because of the 60 fps lock in the engine...
It smells like a peace offering to Disney, "Look, we can make sellable Star Wars games, please let us keep the money printing license!" and then as soon as they get an extension it's back to surprise mechanics wrapped in gameskins.
I really hope this blows up and sells big so the company can see this and go... Huh we should keep this game alive and add more modes maps and starfighters.
Also i would love the game to have 10 v 10 mode instead of 5 v 5, giving both sides more to work with, one squad can be officive focused while the other can be support bomber focused.
And battles on planet surface or in clouds would be really cool.
@ 'I hope it blows up so they can add more features'
'I hope it doesnt, and stays shallow and featurless'
Bruh, did you even listen to what he was saying? You are both talking about the lack of features, yet only one of you is optimistic and hopes for improvement.
People like you need more hugs or some shit so you arent so damn cynical.
@@rebotsomat sadly , thats usually not how works , they already decided if they will continue developing it or jump to the next game
@ uh? im not a fanboy, im just saying that his vision of what could happen to squadrons is what happened to battlefront 2, which turned into a good game after EA listened.
Im just saying its possible, while you came in and were like 'no' without a good reason to be like that.
The fact that this game even got made is a miracle, since the genre isnt exactly bursting with popularity.
sometimes i can understand why it’ll be 5v5, if you played battlefield games like Air Superiority or War Thunder most dogfights with a lot of players tend to become 5 players chasing one plane and its a dogpiling experience, remember BF4 jets? well sometimes more is not better.
@@rebotsomat They make far too much money of MTX unless it becomes illegal or adult only they won't change, this is just for their public image." We're changing guys"
Does anyone else love re watching his long reviews just for entertainment value alone.
And then a new one comes out
Me: idk if I am even interested in this style of game or even planning on buying it, might aswell spend an hour watching a 20 minute video in a span of a month.
I watched his deeprock galactic review like 4 times so I feel you lol
I do the same with MauLer videos. Well, the old ones. Not the live stream money making ones.
we all know what's going to happen now.... Star Wars Squadron won't exactly meet quarter expectations, EA will shift the blame on Motive, they will force them to create a "LIVE SERVICE" shitshow and they will be shut down...
Yep, can see it already.
Doesn't matter; got a great game.
@@franciscofarias6385 but it does matter, because you wont continue to get good games
@@bryanlane2445 yeah but it's not like there's a scenario where's the studio don't close down so getting the one good game is pretty nice
@@franciscofarias6385 doesn't matter until the only dev studio left is fuckin bioware since for whatever rwason they refuse to shut them down
The Battlefront comeback, Fallen Order, and Squadrons have been a resurrection of star wars gaming. They better keep up this win streak!!
This is why we fight the bs guys! I’ll be picking it up Friday.
It's a dead game.
This is one of those games that looks great, and is interesting, and is an IP I like, but I will never play it because I suck at easy flying games so there's no way I'm the target audience for something like this. But I'm glad it got made and hope it does well. Thanks for another great review, Ralph!
Take it from someone who only recently got into this genre with Ace Combat 7, everyone sucks when they first get into these kinds of games, the amount of stuff to keep track of while flying is just rly hard, actually mastering them is incredibly satisfying tho.
Maybe check it out on sale mate! I’m going to wait til it goes to $20 bc I’m cheap like that
Glassglue not easy. Has a lot of flight mechanics.
you're humble bragging you can only play the hard flight sims?
@@TheSpeep I was new to this genre as well with Ace Combat 7. Loved the single player campaign but the multiplayer is too hectic of a dogfight. You're nonstop getting warning about missiles locking on and have to constantly maneouver like crazy. That actually turned me off from this game seeing that it could be another hectic air (space) combat.
Or maybe I'm just terrible at it.
The bane of flight games... HOTAS+VR is the true way to play it. I wish I had the cash to buy both 😂
For now, I'll just settle for a fun, solid, SW starfighter game.
Skill Up is so ridiculously convincing: i don't like VR, i don't like Star Wars, and i don't like shooting games, but he makes me feel like i should play this.
Literally what do you even like then
Uriah Thornton probably other games I guess and maybe this one
Why don't you like VR? Genuinely curious.
@@gaywoman420 Probably because it's not comfortable. A lot of people have problems with VR due to simulation sickness.
Some people get sick just playing something like this on a flatscreen, much less in VR.
You can get your "VR legs" but getting there is tough for some people and many don't think it is worth it.
@Will Pack you what?
You can also do co-op in the Fleet AI fight. Don't have to only play solo. This is where I spend most of my time in the game.
It’s important to remember, EA didn’t deliver this, Motive did. This was their passion project and it’s in spite of EA that we got this.
if you play on controller I recommend switching throttle up/down to LT/LB gives you more control of your speed and maneuverability.
Star Wars Squadrons is a underrated gem 🙌
This is the first game I've played in years in which I can genuinely FEEL myself getting better at it. Changing power levels, adjusting shields, switching target types, microdrifting, checking my range, pinging attackers, retreating to safety, flying inside enemy capital ship shields... It all is slowly, consciously becoming an inherent part every flight.
My only major complaint is that I wish the targeting wheel was integrated into the ship interior. I would also love to see how the game looks with the brackets and targeting reticle disabled for a true instruments-only experience.
Anyway, I haven't used a joystick for a game since Episode 1 Racer on PC way back in 1999. Squadrons has convinced me to save up for a HOTAS setup, provided I can even find one at this point (seeing as how this and Microsoft Flight Sim have resulted in many sellers being completely sold out).
Yea, I have been having a blast with this game in VR. As I wrap up the single player story, and have played dozens of hours of fleet battles at this point I am starting to want more environments, ships, and little ship interior decorations to play with. I hate that EA finally gives us what we want, a game without all those traps and microtransactions, and now I am just dreaming about all of the potential cool stuff they could add. Its too bad that they cant just start ripping out environments from battlefront to bring into this game, even if it just fills out the multiplayer modes.
I enjoy playing Star Wars Squadrons and it feels amazing to fly the X-Wing and Tie Fighter and so on 🙂
Skill Up: I dunno what this ship is called
Me: That would be the Tie Reaper, which was introduced in Rogue One, Was used as a personal ship by the 6th Sister in Fallen Order.
I loved Fallen Order, even with all its warts it was the most fun I'd had playing Star Wars in years.
It’s pretty good and niche. Support it and show EA that those games can succeed too! So we may see other more niche SW Titles
nah
You know you can change the control scheme on controllers to “aviator” that puts roll and pitch on R3 and yaw and throttle on L3, combined that with inverted pitch and boom! It feels like ace combat. So it was pretty ignorant just throwing controller under the bus.
Exactly what I did 👍
Thank you for that. I play this game on my PS4 and it feels unnatural to roll using the left stick compared to the right.
even with the basic controller control scheme I think it controls fine and haven't had any issues.
Aren't L3 and R3 buttons under respecive analog sticks?
Nice to see positivity on this. I'm glad there was no touching of the prequels hearing Thrawn's name etc was cool.
I didn’t even hear about what Hotas was until I watched this, and I am definitely going to save to purchase it so I can experience what PEAK PERFORMANCE feels like.
depending on the game it can take a while to set up all the buttons properly. when you do its awesome
I picked mine up for Elite Dangerous, and can second what Giblix said. Once you nail down the controls, these are THE way to play.
Anybody know of a retailer in the US that isn't sold out of them? Seems everybody bought them all up when these flight sims started coming out.
6:32 - "ANYway. I digress."
Laughed so hard at that. 😂
Im scared seeing the title.
That "it's a trap!" Was fucking perfect lmao
To be fair to EA, I picked up my first Need For Speed in years with 'Heat' due to it's lack of nonsense or cards or whatever. So the efforts to steer the ship right have been showing up already I think.
NFS Heat is arguably some of the most fun I've had with a racing game in a very long time. It's just a solid game, with a surprisingly solid story (if a bit short).
Every time you do a Star Wars game review I am reminded you are one of *those* fans. Good review of the game, though. I'm not a Rogue Squadron fan, and I stuck with being a Trooper/Jedi and not playing the vehicle modes in BF2, but I'm super interested now!
“The reviews are in, my lord.” “Execute order EA, 66.” “It will be done, my lord.” (loot box, microtransaction droids deploy.)
i realize your joking but just so your aware they said no micro transactions or lootboxes will ever be coming to the game
God I hope that happens
I don't think EA should be praised for making one game with fair monetisation. Surely that should be an industry standard?
Going forward, I really hope AAA companies make mid-priced games free of bullshit like EA has done with Squadrons and 2K has done with the Xcom game that released earlier this year. Given the fact that the AAA cartel decided that $70 needs to be the shell price for next generation and the next Depression on the way, I’d even go so far as to say it’s necessary.
No need for trash like EA. Squadrons is another failure.
The world needs some great 7/10 games again. THQ was the best 7/10 game maker before they went under.
@@Deathwing2 Some 7/10 games. Like what for example?
@@TheREALHugo4 Darksiders, Space Marine, Mercenaries 2. Games that are solid, fun, and well made, but aren't big budget blockbusters and won't ever be classics
@@Deathwing2 More like underrated games that has a good potential.
The thing you don't get is that this game is litterally a remaster of old X-Wing, Tie-Fighter, X-wing VS Tie Fighter and X-wing Aliance games. The hangar, the energy management, Joystick controls come from there. They removed the blasters mode to put their customization options here instead. They also removed B-wings and Tie advanced (right call, they were over-powered). Apart from that, good job ! Thank you for your hard work !
6:30 No no no no no. You can't go on that mini rant and end it there. Now you gotta make a whole review for the new trilogy. Please, id love to see a 40min+ vid of you explicitly pointing out all the narrative problems with it.
bump. Yeah, other did this before, but it's still entertaining to watch
Ah, yes. Spread the L O N G.
Honest, non biased reviews. Best game review channel on youtube, no contest.
It looks pretty cool, good to see EA making a game worth playing. It's clear that Squadrons was inspired by the classic combat sims, which brings me some memories of playing Freespace... I really hope these games will get remakes.
Love your reviews !
Can’t wait for your cyberpunk 2077 review
I get it, he is younger than me, but it still hurts if he talks about the "complexity" of this game when there was X-Wing and Tie-Fighter back in the day. Good times and still unparalleled.
Markus Gutjahr x-wing was my favorite game in senior year of high school, so awesome
We're gating keeping flight sims now ok
exactly , this game is not much complex , ofc it is more complex than the average arcade crap where you just aim and shot but not much more
It's got all the complexity of X-Wing and TIE Fighter with the EWS systems, inspecting ships, missiles, countermeasures and a bit more, plus it gave energy management some well needed rebalancing.
@@xthetenth those days we need to destroy Death Stars. In fact two of them :)
SkillUp's reviews bring me more enjoyment than the latest Star Wars trilogy
This is the first time that I’ve begged for more dlc in a long time
I hope they make 50 dollar season pass for the DLC to make you happy.
Now EA knows, make half a game, wait for them to beg for more.
If they don't do a sequel they should go back to what games used to do and release expansion packs that were almost full games on there own (in most cases) a clone wars expansion would be amazing
@@tomsko863 yeah that didn’t happen did it...
@@captainrex4723 From the comments it sure seems like it. Half a game was made and people are begging for more.
This game is so fun! It's been fun to both play and record it. EA needs to expand and add more content.
A long time ago, i used to say
"EA makes awesome games"
Wish they would remember how good their games were.
It's so nice seeing actual good media coming from Star Wars in the recent years. The Clone Wars returning, the Mandalorian, the revamp of Battlefront 2, and now this. Least we have good content outside of the recent mainline franchise.
Edit: Forgot to add Fallen order to the list as well, my bad.
Fallen Order
Nevermind 😆
Dang, they really love the "imperial defector" plot these days huh... This, Rogue One (Bodhi Rook), Battlefront 2(Iden Versio), and the new trilogy(Fin) all rely on this as strong story element.
Well, it’s lore accurate. A huge chunk of the Imperial Military defected after Alderaan
rogue one was amazing
@@sirboomsalot4902 yeah well it's still over done as a story mechanism. There's still people that didn't defect.
@Wow so Edgy you gotta look at things differently. not everyone read the books, and movies almost never get the books right. the cult attached to the original trilogy need to have a little more of an open mind.
its a movie, designed to entertain. 1-3 done in the early 2000s were actually good movies, and after the abominations that was 7-9, most people agree. sure it wasnt the underdog that came from nowhere like it was in the 70s, and the didnt have to literally invent new techniques to achieve some proper effects for them, but they were still good.
far as im concerned if it doesnt have glaring plot holes, awful effect, or too much mental gymnastics, its not hard to like a movie without comparing it to something 40 years old
I'm inclined to give it a slide, since you aren't playing as the defector and also spend about half of the game trying to push that guy's shit in, which is kind of refreshing
A new super weapon. Wow, that's creative!
To be fair, it’s not really a superweapon, it’s a capital ship with a roided up tractor beam
Please feel free to bash the new movies whenever you get a chance. Its important to not let them forget how much we hate them.
I played this game 8 hours straight with a Hotas and in VR. It truly is incredible!
Edit: rebind your roll to the little paddles behind the throttle, it'll give you way more control over your rolls. I played on pc with my Index, it worked fine for me.
The difference between this review and worth a buy review is so vast i'm not sure they played the same game
Its funny to see those cable covers so people can walk over and not trip on big wires are still very much a thing in the future.
No microtransactions *****YET*****
I'm playing it on psvr, after a few days of practice I feel completely fine in the vr experience, and it's amazing! I actually want them to keep support with more content.
Guess I'll wait till I have a VR headset and a proper joystick.
so forever:D
@Chris Mason Many would disagree
Currently playing this in VR with Hotas absolutely mind blowing you want to add an extra layer. Add a woojer edge vest all combined words can not describe how good of a VR experience this is.
"gigantic war of egos" - perfect way to sum up the sequel trilogy
love ur reviews my guy
damn, I'm EArly
I enjoyed the jabs at EA for actually making a good game for once. It was also fun to get the micro-insight into your views on the new Star Wars (knock-off) movies. You continue to be my absolute favorite reviewer of games, and i tend to watch most of your videos, even when i know the games are nothing I would be interested in.
Even when I'm not interested in the game, I still watch all skillup reviews
worth a buy is one of the last honest reviewers
@@ahumbledude757 yep worthabuy is the best reviewer out there, he says it like it is.
What game mode and map was that in the SW Battlefront 2 footage at 10:17? I didn't know there were corvettes/blockade runners in any of those maps.
Needs More Content
The hangar is the same as in Raptor. bringin back the old feels
Gamer: “ Wow!!! This game is so good!”
EA: “ Wait..... what??? It doesn’t even have our surprise mechanics that give players the freedom of choice?!?!?!”
EA ceo: *spits out coffee* wait.... People aren't hating on it should we add more content or something
Earned a like just for the Disney trilogy rant. 10/10 review mate
Love this guy’s reviews but he’s always flexing his setup.
The shield - Engine - Weapon energy shifting, changing fire mode single, all barrels, changing shields forward-rear etc.. All explained in awe.. I guess so little amount of people have ever played or even know of X-wing (DOS game) back in 1993 where it had all those features.. yep.. *27 years* ago.. *Edit*: it even had more, like changing to ion cannons to disable targets and board them, switching to concussion missiles that were really fast or torpedoes that were slow but packed a punch.. All the missions, free to fly without following too much of a corridor you have to play in.. The tractor beams and all.. it was all there.. even the death star run.. and all from inside the cockpit without any complaints to play in 3rd person mode like the new generation craves so much.
EA releasing a good game.....
Impossible.
Titanfall 2 enters the chat.
But yeah its pretty rare.
What if the entire Death Star battle and trench run was actually an elaborate metaphor for fertilization 🤔
I wonder if EA intend to add microtransactions at a later date.
They have confirmed nothing along the lines if micro transactions or lootboxes or anything scummy will be added to the game.
@@samhyatt4863 sorry I was unclear, I was trying to say that they have released games in the past to good reviews and then once the review cycle is finished they have added microtransactions. A really scummy practice. Hope it's not the case here. Not like EA to actually release a reasonable priced game worth playing.
Man, I absolutely loved this game, from maxing out a U-wing to be a shield destroying nightmare to pulling off the most insane maneuvers imaginable in a Tie Interceptor, I had so much fun with the mechanics and even the story I just wish that EA could've done more with it. Like you said, ground missions every now and then and even freely walking in the hanger, combined with the already amazing amount of immersive-ness this game can give, I believe truly would've made this a game that people couldn't call themselves a Star Wars fan without playing.
Can't play Trandoshan or Rodian, 0 out of 10.
Joking aside, it's a great game.
(Also, you should thanks Motive for the game, not EA as much.)
I use the same hotas as you on pc, haven't had any problems with it, it works like a charm, with just a few control adjustments it was perfect, no dead zone issues at all
I don't understand the "it feels slow" complaints. 1. The OG X-Wing and TIE Fighter games were glacial in comparison, so Squadrons actually feels a lot faster than its predecessors. 2. The sense of speed feels fine when you're next to a frame a reference (like a Star Destroyer). What people are complaining about is the fact that in space there's nothing to give you the sense that you're moving (cuz it's space), and speed is relative.
Its called having different opinions.
The originals felt faster.
The new ones feel slower.
Its not really a debate, because its about feel.
It feels slow.
@@rebotsomat I understand that. But I encourage you to go back and play the originals, or even X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter and report back on the sensation of ship speed (or lack their of).
@@OptimumSlinky I just did, which is why I feel this way.
One uncovered setup in the video - I'm playing on PC, using VR (Quest) + controller. Setup works great as well - the immersion from a game like this is unmatched.
I wonder if they’ll pull an Activision & add scummy stuff later on.
They have confirmed nothing along the lines if micro transactions or lootboxes or anything scummy will be added to the game.
@@samhyatt4863 we'll see if they keep their word. Not uncommon for companies to back pedal
Sam Hyatt it’s not like Activision ever gives ppl a heads up before they add stuff so I have no idea why you think EA would be any different.
If there’s none added by the holidays then great but otherwise you’d be a fool to trust what EA says.
DC4Life BilCaesar well i know the facts that their last two star wars games are amazing and that if they break their *promise* with this game then that will be the downfall of their company. they definitely learned their lesson. they explicitly stated with this game that there would never be any mtx or lootboxes or anything along the lines of being scummy. if they break that explicit promise then that will be their conpany’s end and they know it.
Sam Hyatt well I hope you’re right but to trust EA on their word kinda makes you look pretty gullible imo.
I’m sure they’re backing off MTXs for a while due to all the surprise mechanics stuff that was laughed out of parliament etc but I think to just say “they’ve learned their lesson” is pretty close minded,
I hope you’re right (for the fans sakes) but it’s guna take a lot more for me to trust EA enough to buy one of their games on launch.
All this means is that they haven’t found an ACCEPTABLE way to monetise it yet that won’t piss ppl off.
Maybe they learned after Fallen Orders success but you’re an idiot for taking their word for it.
It’s not like publishers haven’t changed their minds in the past is it?
Thanks for this review. I’m looking to play this on PC (no vr) but Ultrawide. I guess I’ll wait for the patches ... but I’ll look forward to it. Appreciate the comprehensive coverage across gameplay methodologies. Most other reviewers say something like: “there are a bunch of ways to play it - I only played it this way.”
*Sees "This is where the fun begins" reference*
*Pauses video*
*Likes video*
*Unpauses video*
Why do you have to pause a video to like it?
I've never tried VR, I'm so jealous of possible experiences like this
By the time VR becomes the norm ill be too old :((
Whatever let them plug us all up when we're in the home
An EA game that loses just about everything that makes an EA game an EA game? Sign me up!
Thumbs up for acknowledging the Hotas dead zone issue
I enjoyed the missions. The story was utter dog shit. Bland flat characters I didn't care about.
Overall disappointing that I had no desire to replay missions.
7/10
Aye, the campaign was both short and both sides were in the same campaign. Story was uninteresting and conversations with squadron mates felt pointless. Why can't we have a starwars story that doesn't revolve around a bloody superweapon and imperial defectors
"Gigantic war of egos played out on the movie screen."
YES! That's exactly was it was!
I disagree. On xbox at least, challenges dont work properly. Achievments dont unlock, i beat the story mode, wheres my achievment? And multiplayer gets boring fast.
SW Battlefield 1 VR tech demo is what sold me on the PSVR, cant wait to get this game. i'll definitely have to check the the hotas controller.
If we can have 2 ea's, one that rips off people with sports games and the other that creates high quality games with ips like star wars, I'd be down for that.
That's a big IF.
Everything flowed so smoothly with a stick in hand - Gaymen Leamington 2020
Can't really understand why people like this so excited about this poorly executed game, it has nothing to do with how great was X-Wing
And it pushes politics like the sequel trilogy...
That Disney Trilogy rant was so welcome.
It's as if EA took one long look at themselves in the mirror and realized, "What has happened to us?"
So this is basically Freespace 3 in a Star Wars universe. Nice! Loved that game back in the day. There is even the same mechanic of redirecting power to the engine/shields/weapons.
It's a decent game that pretty much did what it promised. Though having been brought up by the X-Wing series, it sadly comes up way short to filling that 20 year old void.
Im with you. Its so damn close that I almost dont care, but when he brought up how slow it felt, I knew exactly how he felt. X-Wing made you feel FAST
@@rebotsomat I disagree with him. The sense of speed is great in the game.
If you feel slow, it's because you ARE slow. Get better at boost drifting and shifting your subsystem power. Then you'll be fast.
@@TheFlypaste exactly. You have to charge your engines.
@@TheFlypaste im not talking about that. Im talking about the overall sense of speed, which is not the same as the previous games.
Also, your comment is very presumptive, as the power system shifting from the originals is precisely the reason I even got this.
Try not to be so cynical.
I REALLY hope as they release new ships and maps it's either really cheap or free content.
I know my opinion is probably highly unpopular, but I did not like Star Wars: Squadrons. I thought the flight controls were crap, the story was meh, and the hud, cockpit and instrumentation design is overly generic and basic. I suppose the game scratches an itch for those that really want to dog fight in Star Wars ships but otherwise it's not worth the money and there are better space dog fighting games out there. I am however, biased because I think Star Wars media in general is getting incredibly boring and disappointing. Maybe it's just Star Wars fatigue after being being runover by the Star Wars hype train repeatedly for decades but it's all just getting to be same old same old to me.
Was looking at this for some flight fun but I've never been a fan of SW. If the flight is average and the story/gameplay is threadbare, it's probably not even worth $10 personally. Thanks for the warning!
I've seen several videos that mention the "deadzone" for HOTAS on PC...it can be adjusted in game settings, I set it to 100 (50 by default) and I've had no issues