9 Models on the Pressure to Lose Weight and Body Image | The Models | Vogue
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In the third episode of “The Models,” Vogue's four-part docu-series, runway stars get real about eating disorders, size discrimination, and the fashion’s fraught relationship with weight. Through candid conversations and never-before-shared stories, they describe what it’s like to challenge the status quo and why attaining a healthy body image is more important than booking a runway show.
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The word “unusable” just shows how some of them are treated like objects.
Ikr
Pfff some of them? All of them.
Im a model, you are treated as a peace of meat.
@@tequilabumbum4373 humans are meat lol but i get what you are saying
Smrda Mudic then why are you a mode
@@ava_adamsg Cause if i can use my beauty to make money, travl the world,learn languages, it would be stupid not to. Every job is hard and everyone have bosses to handle. So also modelling have many cons but much more pros,thats why I do it.
no shade but doesn’t Vogue literally fuel this
Tea🤷🏽♀️
exactly
No just Vogue but you as a consumer also!
For real. I hope this is a starting point for positive change, but I'll believe it when I see it.
yes shade
As someone who struggled with anorexia and still has body issues, I really liked this video. When I scrolled down and saw Vogue posted it, I about laughed out loud at the sheer nerve of them. They perpetrate this very ideal and issue.
i completely agree, it was last year, i was 13 and heavily struggled with bulimia and body dysmorphia. this idea is a great concept but the fact that a vogue posted it and basically fuels this industry is repulsive. however, vogue does have plus sized models. but i don’t see my body type displayed it’s either plus sized or literally stick slim.
Exactly!!!
@@mckennaecker7253 im really sorry i hope you are better sending my love xx
exactly!! i hope you’re doing better 💖
*perpetuate but yeah I agree
It makes me so sad that Gemma Ward was crying. She made me fall in love with fashion at 15, I thought she was the most stunning person I’d ever seen and I had pictures of her like cut out and plastered all over my high school art books.
She meant so much to me during this pretty rough time in my life so to realize she was also like hating her life, broke my heart
Yes she had lots of fans
She isssss
:(
She is also a talented actress and was in a movie called ‘Black Balloon’
Same, I thought she had it all when she was modeling for Chanel and everything when in fact she was in a nightmare.
Seems unfair that Vogue can be leaders in the systemic abuse of young women and also capitalise on the body positivity movement. You only get to pick one.
@@A...M. Hi there. I saw you post this on a number of comments. I hope you know I support models, and adore the women in this video. I support any vocation that women choose. I believe they should be able to have a safe working environment, where their health, creativity, and beauty is upheld and appreciated. And I hope you find a non-exploitative environment for yourself to explore your career.
@@stevietricks4954 Thank you for understanding, us models are not unhealthy, in fact we are the very opposite. And the fashion industry is over time starting to promote body positivity, but more so there is a legitimate reason to why models in some big labels are this certain stature; You know how you get fitted for clothes and how womens' bodies are all different. In fashion shows and such, you don't have enough time to get fitted and have clothes altered. It's go, go, go. Therefore it makes it a whole lot easier for models to all be a single on rack size because if major fashion labels did show case a range of sizes it would take too much time to get all the models' clothes tailored and fitted multiple times. There are only 6 weeks of preparation for a fashion show and that is including castings. And by the time they would finish the season would be over.
EXACTLY
A M 3.5 thousand people here disagree with you. What you are expressing is called Stockholm Syndrome.
@@A...M. and i'm Peter Griffin. We can all pretend!
“They have to fit in the sample sizes!!” change the sample size.
the idea of sample size is so outdated to me too. like, yeah when runways was an event that just started off it made sense to have a staple sample size to more easily transport the clothing, but with fashion and runways being a multi billion dollar industry they absolutely can afford to alter sample sizes or have more size diverse runways. and the reality is the primary consumers buying these luxury or couture clothing arent stick thin. they come in various sizes so idk why it would be such a big deal to have models that actually represent the sizes of the consumer base.
j p modeling should not be like that then??? this pressure literally fuels eating disorders and body dysmorphia. it. kills. people. yes it is a business, but maybe we should be caring more about human beings than money.
MAX I half agree and half disagree with what you’re saying. Of course they could alter the sizes, but why would they? It’s easier for them to have one size.
j p why do WE have to accommodate to the sometimes unhealthy measurements so you want everyone to be a size 0??
@j p i never said it should be easy. but modeling is literally to show different items of clothing and accessories on people to advertise. what's the point of making all the models a size 00 if their clothes come in all different sizes?
every womens magazine
page 3 : men like curves
page 4: how to lose weight in 3 weeks
Very true
It's not just for men though. But yeah it's problematic to create thin n curvy standards
Page 5: Love yourself
Page 6: Cake recipe
oh, and "this is how i started to love my body" and next page "how to lose weight"
@@Vardagsvegan1 lol
this is giving me the same energy as when spotify plays an ad about how ads are really annoying.
Omg yes
agreed lol
Vogue really pretending that they don’t contribute to this
they didn't contribute to this.. they made all of this. your body must be 'vogue'
my thoughts exactly. I was wondering if the Vogue community manager was attempting🤔 a coup or something with this video
@@moustik31 at least if they'd change their perspective they can say sorry first
@@kumarmahardhika4839 I'd love to see that in my lifetime. there has been too much abuse going on and not enough support for good practices
@@moustik31 same !! keep praying for that miracle happen
I feel like vogue is doing this videos bc its trendy to be woke, they 100% know more
Are you implying that "Vogue" is cynically exploiting the "me too" movement for there own financial gains?
Shocking...
Yup
bingo!
Couldn't agree more with you.
@@cmulder002why i read this in Meryl Streep in "devil wears prada" voice
I'm confused about why Vogue is interviewing them & posting this....when they're a part of the problem 🤔
K. G. J. It’s a form of mental abuse... it’s to recall the emotional trauma and reenforce their slave status... also it effects the viewers like you and me, and others as well... the exploitation and forced slavery under the system which we are all in is happening to us all.. because we are all intricately connected... if it happens to one of us, it happens to all of us!
K. G. J. EXACTLY!!!
the models want to make a living out of something they're passionate about. everyone is beautiful. The problem is the problematic people who compare your image to model standards and criticise you for the way you look. It only proves that at any point in a person's life, there can always be insecurity no matter how skinny, curvy, beautiful (the list goes on) they are.
for real like what?
@@hotcheeto1372 Do research into vogue's controversies.
I don't think people realize just how bad it is to be 98 pounds when you're around 6ft tall. THAT'S A BMI OF 13.3!!!!!
omg thats really bad healthy is like 17 or something
@@amy5270 Healthy is 18.5....😘
@@viceb7 don't be rude...
A normal woman is healthy at a BMI of 18.5 or more...
Obviously, if you have a lot of muscles, you weigh a lot more. But at every Website with an BMI Calculator, they explain you that it isn't meant for people with a lot of muscles.
So just think before you write. These models don't have the amount of muscles like a bodybuilder.
Marina.Green it’s 18.5 to 24 or something ...mine was always 17 and I got so bullied for being too skinny but that was just my body type
@@sharkwater1726 i'm sorry... And i don't mean to offend anyone who is smaller. It's just the official healthy BMI ❤
its ironic to watch this on Vogue channel
Indeed.
They look "woke", by doing this, but you know the industry is unlikely to change their ways.
my thoughs exactly!
Exactly
They are trying to change, it's not as easy as we think. Didn't you see the plus size edition? That's progress
Me too!!
Seeing Gemma cry is heart breaking. I adore her.
Me too. She will always be one of the best for me.
Yes and i wonder in what way she got publicly shamed? Like what happened?
KIM She gained weight after Heath Ledgers death and they called her ‘roll model’
All of these models are heartbreaking not just her
@@inhetbos It was awful, honestly what happened to her was disgusting. She gained weight and when she appeared at a Chanel show in a denim swimsuit a lot of media put her on the front cover and said she was fat. The Daily Mail was particularly vicious, they called her "roll model".
Best idea Vogue has had in awhile. Thank you for this.
I concur
Megan Hughes this is amazing!
I blame it to South-Korea and especially those toxic western K-Pop fans!!
Vogue does have very thin unhealthy looking models in their magazines
Megan Hughes right
Vogue pretending like they don’t have anything to do with this 😐
A myday, I see that you're a person of taste
Two Mydays, I see two people of taste
@@imstressedbuturnotsurprise3561 yes ma’am Day6 supremacy
heyy mydayssss
@@day6atemywallet78 :)
Why are there no average size models. There’s never someone with my shape/size (36-38). It’s either skinny or plus size 😕
@@vanillaicecream9026 the us standards are crazy in my opinion 38 is perfect size 36 is so skinny 40 42 44 are curvier but not fat
It’s called sample size, designers only hire models who fit into that sample size to showcase.
You want obese models? Good luck! Even the plus size are a size 10 and air brushed. 😂😂😂😂
38 or 36 is NOT the perfect size and you know it. Shame on you to try to make other women look ugly so you can feel better about yourself.
Chris Lovitt HAHA you totally didn’t understand what I was saying 😂😂😂😂😂😂 goodluck with that attitude
I remember how terribly Gemma Ward was dragged... I thought it was unfair then, and I still think so now. I'm glad she's speaking up.
JJsays - 雪莲说 what happened to Gemma ward? I grew up seeing her everywhere & out of nor where I stopped seeing her. 🤔
@@rubyv7231 yooo same and i dont know what happened still
What happened to her?
@@rubyv7231 Gemma back in the day was the number 1 model when she started gaining weight and losing jobs and the tabloids were calling her FAT even the people in the industry were doing these mean things to her... At the same time her boyfriend (Heath Ledger) died and then she retired with depression when she was only 20, at the top of the industry..
SHeinsh wow that's so heartbreaking. She's such a talented and unique looking model. This industry chewed her up and threw her away when they no longer needed her. To top it all off, they publicly humiliated and shamed her. Seriously, the industry owe an apology to her.
The hypocrisy of Vogue for posting this is astounding to me
liz
ok!?
Anna was somewhere saying: "we have to be relevant" then some dumb assistant on coke hurried up saying "Seeing pretty girls cry is always a safe choice". she took her sunnies down her nose and winked then they all continued partying
I used to have subscriptions to Vogue but not anymore.
They're obviously anticipating some sort of 'Me Too' in the fashion industry and this is for damage control.
liz maybe... just maybe... they’re trying to change.
Gemma Ward's segment is the part that broke me, tbh. I'm a guy, I've had my own body insecurity issues, whatever. But to see Gemma's situation unfold at the age that I did was just absolutely heartbreaking. She was going through so much, and to get shamed about her body in the midst of it felt so heartbreaking to watch. Women never get the luxury of being mediocre. The luxury of being average. We keep talking about how "oh, it's so awesome, women who are curvy are having their moment" but never the conversation of women being more than their bodies. Women are beyond their bodies. Gemma was more than her physique. She was a human being, and it's so heartbreaking to know that she was at her most vulnerable when the story about her broke out.
beautifully said.
As a dude, I agree.
exactly, we need more men like u
Thank you
People need to hear and say this more
Thank you so much. I’ve been trying to explain this to my brother. Men have the luxury of being seen for their character and who they are; women don’t.
I notice the difference in how I’m treated by men when I’m skinny vs. normal weight. Like a human being, and invisible. It’s heartbreaking and if you are a man, please consider treating all women with decency and respect.
modelling is a very mentally damaging career. i really doubt any model is confident within themselves.
I'm sure there are some-
**Naomi Campbell laughing in the background intensifies**
kelso facts
K A how did u start modeling?What company?(Aspiring model here:))
the girl at the end? she was
And guess what? The Vogue covers we see in the future will still feature tons of skinny models .
It's fine to have skinny models too! Some people are naturally thin. Any body type deserves to be on the cover of vogue :)
Cause bones sell and flesh don't. Or does it? Sales would increase if they focused on beauty. The bigger girls looked pretty stunning to me. Looking at beauty makes me happy. Looking at starving sad girls doesn't.
my mom said I looked better than Patryk 👍
Vogue switched to celeb covers years ago and has featured all sized people on the covers.
@Lynette Scribner Was Cindy Crawford a stick? The 90's models looked like women, not prepubescent little girls. Who are these designers designing for? Grown up women. They buy the clothes. Women come in all shapes and sizes. They should be celebrated and designers need to get with the times or fade away. That's why Victoria Secret is losing customers. The same will happen to high fashion.
And people wonder why skinny girls feel fat...
Emma Almind yup I’m at my heaviest weight witch is 112 and I feel like it’s a bad
models, not every skinny girl on the street
no mija so models r not considered as average people now? okayy...
Fatima Rahmetova that’s not what i meant. models feel fat because they are constantly looked at and they are alway told to lose weight. people don’t do that to any skinny girl in school or on the street. that’s what i meant
no mija it happens to a lot of people actually, especially with these skinny runway girls in the media being seen as “ideal” and “perfect”. my mom notices whenever i gain even a single pound, and a lot of my friends experience the same thing.
My grandma was a model in the 70s. She just says she quit. She refuses to talk about it.
You should try to get words out of her, it’d be a good learning experience
Sowmya B That is a good idea. I will try and talk to her about it. I just don't want make her feel forced.
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my mom modeled in California when she was 16, standing at 5’9 she weighed 120 pounds. They told her that she needed to lose weight because she wasn’t thin enough, she told me she only ate two bowls of cereal a day. After she lost weight she was sexually assaulted and that’s when she decided enough was enough. It breaks my heart everyday knowing she had to go through this.
power to your Mother! power to you Kay!
No! That would be way too thin. 120lbs at 5ft 9 is very slim but given your mum was 16 was probably healthy at the time. No need to lose more. It's like a drug isn't it? The models get thinner the powers that be want more off. As a person who has battled eating disorders for 40 years, I despair this is allowed to happen.
She didn’t have to go through it.. she chose to pursue modeling
@@georgiareed7743 Okay, but that shouldn’t have happened. You clearly don’t seem to get the point of that comment and judging by your other comments, you are clearly a very ignorant and dumb person. Or a troll. Because there is no way someone has this mindset of basically victim blaming and thinks it’s okay. Nicest way I can say it 🤦🏽♀️
@@aniyah444 you seem dumb and ignorant
btw, practice what you preach, you literally have the power to change EVERYTHING
Amen . C'mon @vogue change the standards of beauty you help create.
Why pressure models to be so skinny when they just end up photo shopping them anyways?
Runaway
It's coz of runways. Coz eventually their face won't matter as they have makeup with weird designs but at the end the body is left so they just force these models to go thin and thin.
Also it is easier to add curves then to take them off. They just want to have something to build of really. It is so sad. Why not just embrace the curves, right?
@@biashoji1099 yaa true
I SCREAMED YES QUEEN YESYESYESYESYES
I was working as a flight attendant and one day Gemma Ward was on my flight. I didn’t tell anybody cuz she was with her husband and kids. She was modest, so responsible of her kids and beautiful without any makeup. It killed my heart to see her cry here:(
Did she fly business?
Does that matter? @@alisalexter4072
Let's just pretend that vogue magazine isn't full of starving models
i know right such a fake way of them telling us one thing and then doing the other
Some people just eat healthy diet and loose weight. Not all models starve.😊
I think that's the point...for us to pretend like how they are
@@shellylifshin6703 but they're underweight, that's the point. Not healthy...
@Stella S. At 15 the adults responsible for them (parents) Put them in the place to be exploited. Just because a teenager wants something they shouldn't necessarily have it. The older females? Well.....
if teardrops could be bottled, there'd be a swimming pool filled by models...
Is that a billie eillish reference?
@@moon.937 yep
Told "that tight dress is what makes you...
@@imanea8034 "
@@justme7867 ?
I saw the video title and was like „yes this is good content“ and then i saw what channel this was uploaded on... then i was like „this is questionable content“
Ikr!! Vogue pretending to be saints
Ikrrrrrr
Imagine telling someone there unusable
They are*
@@iluvduvcamz yeah... but isn’t it sad and wrong that the ideal body type can only be achieved by starvation
that must be heartbreaking
@@gabrielaegas9965 grammar isint the problem here 😘
@@lanbee9116 it was a problem tho
a magazine that made so many girls and even boys self conscious about their body posts a video like that? i love the message, but this is not enough
"If teardrops could be bottled, there'd be swimming pools filled by models"
Oceans*
DarkStar no it’s swimming pools
Khan Khan
They are cringey asf
Khan Khan
They are deep to 13 year old emo tumblr girls, cringey to the rest of people. Cringey.
I swear i was thinking about what billie said in that interview
I tried out for modelling at 17. I was 5'8 and 116lbs but the agent told me to lose 10 more lbs. The worst part was my mom agreed with her. So i made myself throw up and ended up in a rubber room for 2 months. This is so sad.
Lux Vella wow :( omg bebe I hope ur ok
Lux Vella 😭❤️
Omg what!!!😨😨 your weight seemed fine for your height omg I’m so sorry you went through that🥺🥺
Oh dear :( I hope you're feeling more healthy now 💚💚
I am so sorry. That is awful. I hope you’re doing okay now
“Models are maybe the saddest people in the world, their job is to always be looked at”
- Billie Eilish
Models should be intelligent enough to know that ...its their job...no one forces them.
@@Aurora-qn2dx some models are actually forced they start working and then lose control of their life because of their strict rules, even when they are pregnant they are starved
@@Aurora-qn2dx I don’t think you can fully prepare yourself for how it feels to be constantly judged and criticised
@@Aurora-qn2dx then it looks to me that you have never seen a model through their point of view
but they are drawn to the industry and they also had the desire...?
How is vogue gonna post this video when they are one of the main perpetuators of this unhealthy body image
It's called being on trend.
Maybe they want to change
South Florida Yacht Charters oh for sure they do. I just worry that the motive behind this change is centered more around publicity rather than their genuine desire to promote positive body image. It seems they are just keeping up with popular opinion
Okay this is a bit offense cause I have this measurers by myself. Never trained for it. And you say that’s “unhealthy”?
Lotte Lot nahhh dawg like actually not what I’m saying at all. By unhealthy body image I mean the idea that 1 particular body type is the standard of beauty and consistently only portraying that body type. I can see how the phrasing in my original comment can be confusing. At the end of the day beauty is in the eye of the beholder
It just seems modelling completely screws these girls up. They're deemed as some of the most beautiful women in the world, yet the self hatred, distorted body image, and mental health issues they gained in this industry sticks with them years after the cameras stop flashing....
Well all the jobs that come with fame screw people up most of the time. Think about it. Violinist,modell,actress, celeb ect. The two usually come togeather. You have to be very smart And have to have a very balanced life And bacround to deel with the pressure of even being known by the world
@@hannak.79 Violinist was quite a random one to add there?!? 🤔 Lol
Well any solo musician who is big
If she’s doing it smart than she will be ok. People just have to keep it in mind that modelling is really hard and since it is about YOU it can really hurts your soul to be rejected. You just have to be there for her and help her stay confident
@Charise Bejarano Aww bless you. I think be honest with her, that way it will open her eyes as to what to look out for, and so she can go into it with her eyes wide open. Maybe just start the conversation with,,,,, 'I wouldn't be a true friend if I didn't tell you how I was feeling, because I love you and want the best for you....'
I'm sure she'd appreciate you looking out for her :-)
I was a teen model in the 90's and was told I needed to lose weight. I was already a size 6 Australian which is like a size 0 i think American. I was told my thighs needed slimming yet they did not touch. My nickname among my friends was praying mantis I was so skinny. So after my agent snubbed his nose up at my body and told me that other models sometimes go without meals and i heard other models who were purging and injecting between their toes I walked away for good at aged 19. I am now a teacher I am glad I walked away I am much happier but those few years being judged did do damage to my self-confidence.
I really hope you're good now. Take care of yourself ♡
@Sanpakueyes123 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Hey, what about male models?? Every story I see is only about female models. I wanna be a model in the near future perhaps but how is the male model industry????
injecting what??
Edwin Kandjii male models aren't encouraged to be as dangerously skinny, so people talk about female ones more often
"i was no longer a teenager so i was pressured to loose weight " .... the model world doesn't want them to be adults this is crazy.
Yeah you have to be stand up
LOSE not LOOSE!
Vogue never cared before, why now?
Lauren Jane it’s called evolving
@@KatEssex it's a trend.
Realized they will bait a lot of woke millenials and gain better views
Because body positivity is a trend, because they have run out of ideas and because the market of larger sizes is growing internationally.
for views and cuz its trending
Seeing Gemma Ward crying absolutely broke my heart.
Lol first world problems majoryl I can think of far more heart breaking things to cry about
you have no idea and no right to talk unless you have been a part of this horrifying industry.@@hansmdinkermaniiv1665
Hans M Dinkerman IIV ignorant
I remember Gemma being extremely skinny, then she came back fuller at the Chanel show in a bikini.... so sad she was bullied.
I may be wrong but wasn't it also around the time that Heath Ledger died? They were dating at the time, so cruel to mock someone going through such heartache and grief.
feel so bad for gemma ward, heath ledger died and she gained weight after that and everyone was so mean to her, they were so shallow, they loved her when she was skinny and hated her when she gained weight :(
The media is obsessed with image, not with people beyond it :(
Was she in a relationship with heath?????
Absolutely empathize with these models but Vogue is so cashing in on the body positivity movement.
asdabir
cashing on it being positive or negative
Even if they are, there still helping the cause, building up consciousness.
Body positivity movement is based on profits. Everything is money... body positivity movement is profiting off of selling more clothes, so, something like that...
Yup I bet even Vogue's unpaid interns are hired based on their weight, age and overall appearance.
These poor girls have been so exploited. So basically the modeling industry are PIMPS?!
They choose to be models
They chose to do this correct
Yes they are pimped out to Hollywood actors and aristocrats
@@falloutgirl902 Pimped out hmm ? All these horror stories and accusations by models etc , yet women still want to be models . What part of the message is being lost or not getting thru ?
So when will the mass walk out happen ? You know the models walking off the job , till condition's change
God gave us a perfect body and we let the media ruin it.
true😭
exactly.. truly something to think about
Dave Daniels, Explain? Sorry but the way you worded that sounded like you’re defending the people encouraging weight-loss eating disorders.
Humans* ruin*
Or we destroy it by not eating enough too much causing health issues.
Vogue, aren’t you... never mind.
I actually didnt get why the fact people are mad
I met Gemma Ward a few years ago and she was so, so sweet. But she was also so quiet. I wonder how much of that was a result of Vogue shaming her.
To my eyes it's still fine. They just simply wanted to hate her.
I am pretty much the same age as Gemma Ward. Growing up, she's been one of my favourite models and I'd always look up to her for being so beautiful and successful. It was such a revelation to see her talking in this series. Thank you, Vogue and Gemma for the stories.
She's the reason I know about high fashion. I hope she's not hurt by the industry anymore. Love you Gemma
Thank god Im not the only one to see the hypocrisy here😂😂😂
*'No one is born ugly, we're just born in a judgemental society'*
-Kim Namjoon
NAMJOON
lol he didn’t say that
He never said that
He didn't say that, it was an army on army selca day ^^"
Amen to that my Army fam! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Seeing Gemma Ward be so raw and vulnerable absolutely broke my heart, to this day she’s still one of my favourite models and I miss seeing her on the covers of magazines
She is a legend. I was so happy when one of my boys booked a campaign with her
"Their job, is being looked at" - Billie Eilish
uwu im 14 and this is deep uwu
Flamoof yeah but they know what they sign up for (in the sense that they know that they’re being looked at) I don’t think there’s a problem with wanting to be a model
What a great philosopher ...
U did not just quote-
Wow truly inspirational 🤩🤩🤩. Wow Billie’s so deep she’s such a great philosopher.
Victoria’s Secret has left the chat…
It's funny when people say VS models are curvy and high fashion models are anorexic. I mean VS made Behati skinnier than she ever were in HF lol
VS models actually look like they eat something
VS models are strong and have a lot of weigh training. "high fashion" models are about skin an bones.
And this my friends, is how you develop an eating disorder.
Your so right
@@itsmekhaiyah8452 Bingo
True.
Exactly
Poor Gemma Ward. It is criminal how the fashion industry treated her.
Liza Bright
she got the best and the worst
And yet she still went back...
@@pagethreemodel Basic abuse dynamic.
@@lizabright8940 true. Anyway they're disgusting for how they did her. The fashun industry is a cesspool.
What actually happened??
Vogue went way too soft on this... basically lightly brushing the subject just enough to seem 'woke'. And that pat in the back they gave themselves in the end with the overweight models as if Fashion is now Past This. Please. 🙄
MesRevesEnRose You’re so right.
now i wanna start a company, modeling, use people of ALL shapes. sizes, colors, religion, etc. so that everyone feels welcomed and just happy being themselves
but i’m only 13💀
Well it could be in your future 😊
The Problem are not the agency. It’s the customer. I am also in a model agency and they hate the fact that we always have to be this skinny... But when we’re not skinny we don’t get any jobs. Your Idea is good, but these models won’t get any jobs... :(
Tehe maybe you are a friend/family member can design one for the future :) it’s never too early to start!
Start a modeling agency on how to model a better heart and soul instead of what you look like
Pleaseeeee I can’t be a model bc I’m 4’11
Let's just pretend Vogue isnt the one starving their models...
I remember when Gemma was so publically shamed for her weight, in all the tabloids, etc. So vicious.
but what happened? i didn’t understand it someone explain please
She walked the Chanel spring 2008 show in a swimsuit looking like a healthy girl, but standing next to these younger and thinner girls, the press had a field day. She was going through a lot at that time in her life tho.
paula rudi she happened to gain a bit of weight because she was becoming a woman, she was only 20 years old at the time. She was a healthy girl when the press started to turn on her
Mickaël Valli I’m not sure if this is true and have heard nothing of this, he was one of the few designers that would still cast gemma at that time
I remember this too. Ali Michaels and Gemma Ward were all over Teen Vogue back in the day as an "it" girl - then suddenly, one day. *poof* gone. I recall being a huge fan of them back in high school. Ali Michaels was known for her thick brows and Gemma for her "alien" beauty and being confused when i could no longer see them in subsequent issues.
I can't really stand the one who laughed to that girl bc of her body.
I wanna vomit, my God this hurts af
I'm striving to become a fashion designer and if I'm successful and run my own business, I want my models to be healthy and not stick thin and anorexic looking.
Btw not all models are really thin, but lots of runway models are.
Me too!
Just keep in mind that there are healthy women who, as you said, are """stick thin"""... Be careful using those words, they are just as hurtful as the ones ignorant people use to describe "plus-size" women. A lot of women are genetically more thin (thin-thin btw, or in your words ""stick thin""; not the "perfect ideal skinny" people seem to love), just like a lot of women are genetically more "fat". People should be very careful, because when trying to fix a problem they may create another one. More body diversity for sure needed, but don't exclude """stick thin""" healthy women just because they don't fit with your ideals of beauty... that's exactly the problem you're trying to fix that "plus-size" women have... but, maybe without being aware of it, you're contributing to the same problem the other way around... Thin women are seen as unattractive cuz they're not within the "ideal body type", and your comment proves it...
@@BrunaSantos-kq4pd I agree with you, I'm not a model but I'm very thin, that's my genetic, im healthy, im not underweight and I often get comments like "you should eat more" "you look like an skeleton" "you look anorexic" "you shouldn't exercise, you're going to disappear" "real woman have curves" and those kind of things also hurt you and make you feel insecure about your body, it makes me a little bit sad seeing some people in the comments taking the body positive mesaage wrong and shaming thinner bodies :/
america soto I go through the exact same thing... what people don’t understand is how bad it makes us feel. People wrongly make comments about us exercising, when doctors tell us we have to do it in order go gain weight/muscle. I don’t like wearing dresses and skirts (even though I like them) because of what people say and think about my body. It’s awful... And sometimes it feels like body positivity is a one way thing, because I see a lot of people praising it and then talking badly about our body type... because “we’re unattractive”, “we don’t have any curves”, “all they see is bones”, etc etc... It makes me feel like sh*t
I shall give you my full support.
When I was in year 5 (I think 4th grade) a girl in my class, Emily, was forced to be a child model by her mother. She wasn’t allowed to eat lunch, and she only told me that. She was extremely skinny and her mother had the audacity to call her “fat pig” in front of the whole class. It’s heartbreaking bc her mother is using her for money, and Emily is trying so hard to get out of it. She is in 7th grade now, and I heard she has extreme depression. This needs to stop
Is your friend good now ?? I hope she is okay . Body shaming hurts .
@@Chocolavacakeloco she moved schools this summer but she keeps telling me she want to end her life. I am trying to convince her out of it though
@@jojoplayz8424 I guess she should seek psychiatric help and it is good that you are helping her . People need friends like you .
@@Chocolavacakeloco ty! I hope she sees a therapist for mental help, too. I’ll keep praying
@@jojoplayz8424 yup she should seek medical help asap . If her condition gers worse then it will be difficult to handle . Sending prayers to her .
I LOVE YOU GEMMA WARD! An icon of the modelling scene. How they treated you when you were only NINETEEN was disgusting. You've alwways looked amazing. Queen of the 2000s.
Its so cool that a fashion company like vogue can talk about the bad sides of modelling and not try to hide it
While at the same time being part of the bad side. Not impressed
Guarantee many of the stylists and photographers etc who worked for Vogue, were just like this. Besides, when have Vogue used a model (not celebrity) that has been a healthy weight or fuller figured? I applaud this series but let's not pretend that Vogue is innocent
It doesn't matter if they still keep on promoting white super skinny girls all over their magazine.
Really though? Or is it just the fashion version of greenwashing?!
Aw, you are so naive ❤️
Vogue says "Thinner is better"
.......... BEYONCÉ KNOWLES
-pretty hurts... raw song..about reality
actually sia wrote that song
Gemma Ward's influence in fashion is still felt until this day. She really was a modern day supermodel. Sad to think how much it traumatised her .
Well first: the irony and hypocrisy of you posting this is through the roof.
Second: The reason the modeling industry isn’t as diverse with their sizes is because all of the clothes are a specific size so the models have to all fit into that size. I personally think that we could make a more reasonable measurements the ideal of the clothing fit so that we don’t have these beautiful people at an unhealthy state of mind and weight
Mrs. Nightmare you are so on point!
The ppl who make the clothes arent perfect and stick skinny like the clothing they make , which is disturbing. How do ppl enable these things in the world . but it will always keep happening.
well said👌🏽
so so true. clothing should be made to fit people, not the other way around.
so correct
gemma ward :( my dear we love you
I loved her as a teenager. Heart breaking to see she was in a horrible place.
nobullshitbeauty she seems so child like in their
To all those that have felt like I have since age 14 not perfect " enough ( but my skin is fine) #❤️❤️❤️❤️
Vogue: lets appear to be "woke" and forward thinking by making this content NOW all whilst ironically being apart of the machine, because woke + engagement = money.
Sandy Green Wouldn’t you rather they do this instead of perpetuating the pressure to be as skinny as possible?
Regardless of Vogue’s role in creating this pressure, this is a discussion that needs to be had. And the fact that the most influential fashion magazine in the world having it is pretty phenomenal, wouldn’t you agree?
'if teardrops could be bottled there'd be swimming pools filled by models.'
- Billie Eilish
I feel like Myla is talking about victoria secret
i thought the same
100%
That came to my mind as well
if its victoria secret they wouldnt tell her 1 month before… but 3/4/5 months before
@@indiakees9687 not for the casting
Epic double standards Vogue.
Vogue puts this out so the company can, in a sense, wash their hands. The company knows pressure is building because the masses are waking up and becoming restless. It’s pretty much - damage control. The business is built to protect and strengthen the establishment. These videos, although cathartic, are used as bread-crumbing. Just my opinion.
Midnight Cat You’re absolutely right.
I literally started crying when I saw Gemma. I remember that Chanel show, she looked beautiful. But people criticized her for her weight and turned their backs on her. I am very happy that she has found tranquility because she is very beautiful outside and inside.
Seeing Gemma cry like that destroyed me completely
Sol that was the point
Gemma Ward was treated so horribly. She didn't give any background to what she was talking about because everyone knows. I think of that Chanel show - everyone was horrible to her.
What happened on that channel show?
Kathrina T she was wearing a denim bikini and she had gained a little bit of weight, still looking thin and healthy, but blogs and the press had a field day
I remember that. I always felt that Gemma had a 'I'm dieting to be really skinny' look and it wasn't gonna be sustainable. And obviously it wasn't.
That jacket she had to wear was so unflattering for any body type too. I think the stylist was purposely being shady
I remember how her weight gain became a big deal and it’s freaking disgusting the way she was treated!
so beautiful they can speak out about their personal experiences
Mimi Assi hahah
omg gemma ward is such an angel... I remember being like 14 on Tumblr seeing her pictures everywhere, she always looked so ethereal
"I worked really hard to be 26" best sentence! She survived somehow. That's the only goal sometimes
Gemma Ward, hope you are reading. You were a role model to me when I was young and struggling with eating disorders, because you were like the one brave enough to put on weight while being top top model and one of the prettiest faces in the industry. It had to be extremely hard. I love you!
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i don’t get it. why are they pressured to be unrealistically skinny just to sell clothes that people aren’t even skinny enough to fit in
Gemma Ward was EVERYWHERE until that Chanel show...
Which show??
sophia millan www.thecut.com/2010/02/gemma_ward.html
Jinagohs www.thecut.com/2010/02/gemma_ward.html
Was it that denim bikini? I’m so confused because she still looks thin in it www.skinnyvscurvy.com/then-and-now/supermodel-gemma-ward.html
@@racheltattersall337 she wasnt fat at all she looks good in it, the model industry is sick
Myla looks so much like Mila Kunis. I thought she actually was Mila at first glance
Erica which one?
@@evesofia5149 3:17
Angel omg she does!! wow
My first reaction was "Jessie J!"
Same
I worked in the NYC fashion industry as a makeup artist since the 90s. It’s a toxic environment and don’t let this virtue signaling fool you.
So toxic yet nothing has changed
They choose to be models though
wow i am soooo sad about gemma ward. as a teen, i thought she was the epitome of beauty and had no idea she was going through any of this. i really wish the best for her
All of these skinny models are sad and insecure and plus size models here seem happy and confident. Just an observation.
If only that was true...
Not true AT ALL
If you use “skinny” for the petit models why can’t you just say “fat” for the plus size models? Lmaooo
i agree that a larger percentage of plus sized models are happier than the petite models.
usually models have to be extremely skinny which takes a lot of unnecessary pain and starving but plus size models are different, they were accepted as a model for being who they already are and staying healthy. so of course they're happier.
Imagine an industry that is so conceited that even a trendsetter like Gemma is shamed for her body
bolton Gemma was never a trendsetter at least not far as fashion. She lucked out and had an interesting look, but her actual fashion sense and walk were pretty average. She´s not like a Kate Moss or Naomi who actually started trends.
Now imagine not being conventionally attractive, & or a model and being body shamed.
Cant relate
AND WITHOUT BEING PAID
Literally tho
I think that's the reason why women should learn to be confident and not respond to society's expectations and pressure. First it should start in the family. Mothers should celebrate their daughters body and not push them to lose weight (or gain in some cases). I have always been confident in my body and I understood pretty early that being "beautiful" is more important for a woman than being smart or nice or caring. Still in 2019, people are obsessed with their looks and social media doesn't help. When I see teenagers having surgery at young age and looking like 40 year-old women, I think it's so sad. We give other people so much power over us, why should we care what other people think about us?
@@manoushb5699 YES. As a mother of a 17 year old and a 9 year old I am working so hard to help them see that social media is not real and those unrealistic standards are not something they should aspire to.
Lost for words.... how can Vogue show curvy models on the cover of their magazine at the end and imply that everything is fine now and they no longer support this behaviour.... such performative activism
them: "I'm a model"
me: *i'M A pOTaTO*
Edit: I saw this comment just recently and I just realized that this "joke" is not that funny😬🤢( I commented this when it was early 2019)
ha. ha. very funny.
Was that supposed to be funny? Please stop potato jokes already...
hOw quirky of you
Anika i KnOw RiGhT ¿?
Ah same sis same
I looked up to Gemma so much and wanted so badly to get her waist as a 13 yr looking back at that now I felt sick looking at myself and I sincerely appreciate her coming out to share struggles
1. I appreciate and respect these models for being to open and transparent.
2. Anna Wintour...the disgusting irony 😒
I understand their pain. Im tall, 5'10" and have always felt pressure to be model thin. At my lowest weight I was maybe 120 pounds which is very underweight for my height. Ive had an eating disorder since I was 17. Im 38 now and just finally starting to feel like I'm beginning to be free of this beast. Its very hard.
Gemma Ward has always been my favorite model. I just find her so dang beautiful!
I just want to hug Gemma- I have always adored her. It is so sad to see women cry for just being normal women.
Omg, I grew up really liking Gemma Ward. So great to see her again. She and Lily Donaldson really became popular during the "doll" generation. And then she kinda went MIA after Heath Ledger's death, while Lily gained weight, and went off to model for Victoria Secret. Still love both girls. ❤
I remember when Lily tried to become relevant by befriending Kendall Jenner when Kendall Jenner did not have any friend in the industry lol, and then Kendall trashed her when Gigi Hadid became popular.
Was she related to Heath Ledger in any way? I'm sorry, I don't know much about the subject
Eureka Mreum she was dating him at the time of his death
I can’t believe that those wonderful women could see themselves ugly
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