Spectacular Views from Newquay to Manchester on the Loganair ATR-72. However.......
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2021
- Hello guys and thanks once again for joining me on this, my return from Cornwall on the Loganair ATR-72.
This is the final video of the series and as you will see, the weather was still amazing for the UK with the unrelenting sunshine staying with me all the way to Manchester! I do like the ATR-72 and I've had great flights with Loganair in the past. But something bugged me slightly about this flight and I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on this in the comments below.
Have a watch and let me know what you think. I'll sum up my thoughts at the end and I'll leave you to decide whether you agree or not. Either way, like I said, your comments are most welcome.
Thanks for watching and cheers for now!
Mark
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Your presentation is highly interesting to watch. Thank you very much and take care.
Cheers Tony, appreciate the kind words 😊
Used to fly from Newquay in Air Southwest days, always got a drink and snack then!
I was on eight flights with Loganair last weekend and tbf, the drinks and snacks are now back between BHX - ABZ -KOI. I’m sure it’s the same elsewhere too. Managed to get through five Tunnocks bars anyway! 😂
Great video, I used to fly this type for Aurigny for many enjoyable years as flight deck before the -600 arrived, I took this same trip with loganair last aug from MAN and found it a good service, thanks for the videos you’ve done, cheers
Cheers Simon and thanks for sharing your experience. I do like Loganair (most of the time). Much more interesting flights and destinations imo 👍
I had a training day at work today, and all I could think was 'hope there's a new Let's Make A Trip! video tonight.' You didn't disappoint. :)
Crikey - a training day on a Friday! You have my sympathies! Glad I gave you something to take your mind off it 😊
I have just discovered your channel and I must say it's really very good.
Cheers Adam, appreciate the comment mate 😂👍
The cloud at the end as you were landing looks like an aircraft.
Superb footage 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️😊😊😊💕💕💕
Thank you Derisley, glad you enjoyed it 😊👍👍👍
Brilliant review, very well documented! I flew with Loganair recently on a Saab 340 from Glasgow, and can confirm that snacks (Tunnocks wafer/shortbread) were offered, along with a small cup of water. I just really don't understand the refusal to serve hot drinks though, certainly not Covid related at this point!
Hey PG27, thanks for the kind words! Yes my last flight INV - MAN in an ERJ135 I had a Tunnocks and some odd looking ‘cartons’ of water, no hot drinks. I think it’s just penny-pinching tbh with the c-word being the convenient excuse. Last time I flew on the Saab340 was up to Shetland - love those planes and tbh, they’re probably the main reason I’d drag myself back on a Loganair flight in the future 😂 All the best, Mark
@@LetsMakeaTrip Yes, that's most likely the case, though at least something is provided now I suppose. I love the Saabs too- shame they don't operate the S2000s any more though, as I always found them very comfortable aircraft. For a prop, at least!
I get the feeling that Logan Air are trying to cut costs during the pandemic. Although it’s hard to get any fares that are less than about £70 and to be honest they aren’t really any different from Easyjet who do the same flight for half the price. ✈️
If I was going for value, Easyjet wins hands-down for me. The problem is that Loganair have more interesting aircraft, so I’ll never be able to totally ignore them. And they know it! 😂😂
Brilliant review, That landing looked bouncy.
Always good fun in the twin props!
I took the same flight in September and they handed out one water and one biscuit but they had cake for the pilots
Yeh, that seems about right but at least you got something! Thing is, I wouldn't have minded if they'd told us in the lounge then at least people could buy something to take on board if they wanted. Loganair probably don't want the hassle of cleaning up after people I reckon. Bet there's loads of crumbs in the cockpit though lol!
Never settle for second best, if Loganair are not giving satisfaction then it is time to move to another carrier and that waiting around for a reply from customer service!, well what a joke other than that thanks for your company again and take care and stay safe,cheers,Si.
Hi Si, cheers mate. I’ve added them to my ‘seriously consider before flying again’ list 😂 Aer Lingus are already on there, as are Alitalia or ITA or whatever they’re called this week. Gotta say, BA and EasyJet have been pretty good in comparison 👍
Yes Flybe was reserected and gone bust again.
At 7:41 that's the Mersey estuary, At that point you are overhead Liverpool Airport looking out towards Runcorn. The two bridges you are looking at are the The Silver Jubilee Bridge and the Mersey Gateway bridge behind.
Cheers Mart, I just watched it back and can see it now 👍
Certain companies, both plane and train need a kick up the bum to stop using covid as an excuse for money saving or laziness. I'd never fly that route but I can see why people do, both cost and timewise. Nice little planes tho! 🛩️
It wouldn’t be so bad if they told everyone prior to boarding. At least we could get a bottle of water or something in the lounge then. Or here’s a thought, they could leave some stuff in a box and we could all sanitize our hands before picking it up on our way to the aircraft 🙄
The reason of course Newquay had an airport almost ready made with a huge runway was that it was previously RAF St Mawgan
Yep, I did a bit about that in my other video of the MAN - NQY with EasyJet on the way down. Must have been quite a place in its day - I believe they had the mighty Nimrods amongst other stuff 👍
@@LetsMakeaTrip they did indeed had Nimrods which my brother served on in his long RAF career. He did a brief stint at St Mawgan but soon returned to his beloved Kinloss in Scotland!
Apparently the RAF still have a presence at St Mawgan. Not sure it’s much more than an office or two though tbh!
@@LetsMakeaTrip Much more than an office can assure you. Somethings cannot be divulged though.😜
@@Thursdaym2 haha, fair enough Butch 😊
Good vid m8
Thanks John, appreciate you taking the time to comment 😊👍
Do you need a passport for this flight? It’s going to be my regular commute to and from work.
A form of ID should suffice but probably best check with the airline Stephen to be sure.
Well, what can I say? Excellent stuff as always Mark. I don’t know where to start with the Loganair issues. Not good and people will vote with their wallets and choose other airlines.
Hi Tim, cheers mate! Loganair, I dunno, tbh I was hoping a few people would comment to the contrary and say what a great little airline they are. But I’m not getting much love for them atm! Two things I love about Loganair are the aircraft and the routes - most of the latter being exclusively theirs. Maybe this is where the complacency starts. I reckon Hebridean Air Services need to expand a bit and give them a run for their money 😂
Thankyou!!! I’m making this trip from Manchester to Newquay this is a stupid question but do I need a passport
Hi Holl Ni, see my answer on your other post. Hope this helps 😊
Coming to Cornwall certainly, foreign country.😜🏉
Cost cutting cheapskates! Mark. No one should be using the C word now in my opinion. Great vlog C..F.N.
Cheers Robert - I agree though they are back to normal again now. Thanks mate 😊👍
I've never flown on a propellor plane such as this and only the Airbus - Boeing jets, but flying this route at the end of the month. Any reassurance for a nervous flyer as I've heard these flights can get quite bumpy and feel different on take off etc
Hi Justin, well, the wings are above you so at least you can see they’re attached to the fuselage properly and can get a good view of the engines! I’ve been on a few of these types of aircraft and yes it’s probably fair to say they can be a little bumpy but I always think it feels more like proper flying. And they’ll be at a lower altitude too so if you’re cloud-free, should be a nice view. Just enjoy it if you can and have a great flight 😊👍
I live in Cornwall so fly both the ATR and Q400 turboprops a lot, as most flights out of here use them. They are absolutely fine. Safety wise they are no different to jets. These aren't old designs, both have their origins in the same era as the Airbus A320, and ATR are actually 50% owned by Airbus, and are designed with some commonality in mind. The Q400 (aka the Dash-8 Q400) which is the other main Turboprop you'll see out of Newquay (mostly with FlyBe) is a rugged Canadian design and was designed from the ground up to compete directly with regional jets in terms of safety, speed and comfort. Both planes are still actively marketed and sold by their manufacturers, and ATR recently launched their latest generation ATR-72, while the Q400 production line is currently restarting post-Covid.
The only real difference you'll be aware of as a passenger is that the noise is different due to the props being much bigger than the fan on a jet engine. Some people complain it makes the cabin louder, but honestly I've never really noticed that much difference. The main benefit is that on the turboprops, they wings are mounted above the cabin (rather than below it, as on jets - to give the props enough ground clearance) which means that even if you've got a seat next to the wings, you still get a good view.
So no worries, relax and have a lovely flight - hopefully the weather gives you a good view!
Easyjet was 15/20 mins shorter flt.
Yep, prefer turboprops though tbh.
Very poor service, and expensive I shouldn’t use them; very interesting excellent and factual.
Cheers Michael, thanks for the comment.
Been looking forward to this one for a while, shame about the flight
Cheers Adam, yeh I’m not totally put-off Loganair tbh if I’m up in Scotland again I won’t have much choice, but the service (in-flight and customer facing) just seems a bit slapdash atm.
@@LetsMakeaTrip just seems odd when it's touted as a more premium option than easyjet even though easyjet is quicker cheaper and has full service
@@Adam-fj9px yeh that’s what I thought. What exactly are you paying the extra money for? A slower aircraft that left late anyway? The views are the same....
@@LetsMakeaTrip some would say they don't want to risk the usual easyjet delays but like you've proven loganair was late too
I was supposed to be on a Blue Islands flight originally from EXE - MAN but that got pulled. Out of all the flights that I’ve had postponed or cancelled, EasyJet and Ryanair have proved to be the most reliable tbf!
I live 1 mile away from Newquay Airport and I much prefer flying on the jets than the turbo props even on local flights. It's not viable for the fuel costs I suppose...
I do like the turboprops but yes, a tad more expensive compared to the likes of Easyjet.
I prefer the turboprops myself - there's fewer passengers so check-in, boarding, deboarding and luggage reclaim (when needed) are all a bit faster and less chaotic. The main thing I wish we had is an interline agreement with the LCCs at Gatwick and Manchester to make connections more streamlined coming from Eastern or Loganair. Alas, that's not the Easyjet/Ryanair way of working!
Thank you for a great review ! As you say, the flight was fine, but frankly, the lack of any on-board service was a disgrace. Loganair, being Scottish based, is clearly following the whims of the Scottish government . Both Avanti West Coast, and LNER now offer full on board service on their trains, and the wonderful EasyJet have done so on their flights for a while now. Therefore I wouldn't touch Loganair with a bargepole, and where there is competition from EasyJet, I would prefer to pay for their on-board service, and they fly better planes also ! Many thanks.
Hi Anthony, thanks for the comment. Yes, last time I was on Avanti (in first) they were getting back to normal. EasyJet have been offering their buy-on-board for a while (as have Ryanair). BA were pretty-much back to normal in their business class club Europe too. Loganair, abysmal, as is their customer service. Anyone would think they were actively trying to lose customers. I just can’t imagine why anyone would pay more for less (apart from fools like me who want to fly on something a bit different 😂).
Definitely not go with Logan air.... service is shocking..... Great video as always.... cheers Mark.
Richard in Newcastle upon Tyne.
And still no hot drinks. I’d fly Loganair as an avgeek for the different aircraft, but for the average customer who just wants to get from from A to B, why would you choose them over a competitor on the same route?
@@LetsMakeaTrip that's a valid point but in any business to a paying customer...you pull out all the stops to make a customer experience valued and to return again.
Unfortunately we are now seeing a don't give 2 flying Fu##s attitude towards customers.
Good job we have people like Mark keeping us posted.... I want good service for my money.... don't forget... it wasn't just going without food and drink.... cleanliness wasn't 100% in Mark's video.
That was a loud landing. The lack of in flight services was odd, and disappointing. I will not be calling logan air any time soon.
Hi Carol, great to hear from you again. I think, with Loganair it was really disappointing - what are you paying the extra money for? Just to keep them in business out of sympathy? Difficult one really, I had a great flight with them on an Embraer 135 last year and they’ve just gone from one extreme to another! I’ll end up on them again at some stage - when I’m flying to some random remote Scottish island probably 😂
@@LetsMakeaTrip I agree. Not worth the money!
Hmm. A remote Scottish Island. I am new to your channel. Have you reviewed the overnight ferries from Aberdeen to Shetland?
@@CarolgTX I’ve been on it - the Northlink ferry. I haven’t been doing this RUclips thing long though so there’s no review unfortunately. I can tell you from memory though it was a rough old night! I went up there in the winter and trying to sleep when you can hear the bow slamming against the waves is not easy! Shetland is fantastic though, a world away from the mainland and beautiful wildlife: otters, seals and some fantastic beaches. Very quiet at that time of year, I would definitely recommend it 👍
M/s Krankie's favourite airline?
The C word lol
I can’t say the actual word anymore, RUclips will pull the adverts on anything like this which means it won’t earn me any money 😂
I’m bored of airlines using Covid as an excuse now , ba and ba city flyer have introduced onboard service again on flights of similar length
Hi MH, thanks for the comment. Yep, BA will even give you water and crisps between London and Manchester (30 mins). I’m not sure whether it was genuinely the reason with Loganair or whether it was the easiest thing to blame tbh. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was the latter.
Logonair are an overpriced disgrace - would never use them!
Loganair are an awful airline in my opinion, The management are still very bitter against the new Flybe and try everything they can to make their life difficult. LG are also way more expensive than Flybe and the onboard service as you say is poor. If you do this route again try the new Flybe, you get a complimentary hot drink, squash or water and a biscuit (you can have two if you ask the crew nicely)
Yet here we a few months later and Loganair is one of the few successful growing regional airlines and Flybe has gone bust again.............
@@buzzinadventures4217 Loganair won't be around for long now they're dabbing into Heathrow. Also Loganair have been up for sale since last year and nobody has bought them says a lot about their business.