Joe Satriani has a broken cable during Ice 9 (Earth Tour 2023 - Enschede)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @gregquinn5516
    @gregquinn5516 Год назад +65

    For those who commented on the keyboard player - he is Rai Thistlethwayte from Australia - his band here is Thirsty Merc, he plays with Oz Noy in Ozone Squeeze and has clips under the name Sun Rai - all well worth a listen. And his comment about playing in Joe's band is how great it is to work with nice people - says a lot .

    • @jeejee70
      @jeejee70 Год назад +2

      @@hughchewb2529 search for Knower Overtime live sesh for a very good Ray solo

    • @bpabustan
      @bpabustan Год назад +5

      Rai made the tune go to a different place. It became a jazz fusion jam. Joe was obviously delighted.

    • @bre4k00
      @bre4k00 Год назад +3

      Australia be making musicians like crazy

    • @areolaman
      @areolaman Год назад

      Keyboard named his band after his SL65 benz?

    • @lyricbread
      @lyricbread Год назад

      Absolute ripper!

  • @jdmaine51084
    @jdmaine51084 Год назад +139

    A band fulla professionals. Didn't miss a beat.

    • @macfarlake
      @macfarlake  Год назад +6

      Exactly!

    • @danielpurim
      @danielpurim Год назад +9

      That’s the most fun these guys have had in years! The unexpected, the imperfections, unscripted phrasing, pure joy!

    • @gearmeister
      @gearmeister Год назад +2

      This version of Ice9 shall be hereby certified as "Ice9 BC"
      (Broken cable) what a jam! The song just got improved with a "cable-keyboard-lead break"

  • @ZZombert
    @ZZombert Год назад +64

    no fake playing, no backing tracks, this is the real deal kids, take notes! hard to find such musicianship nowadays!

    • @redbull8661
      @redbull8661 Год назад +3

      That would have never happened to Motley Crue. lol

    • @matthazelby506
      @matthazelby506 Год назад +1

      Shame he's released absolute crap since The Extremist.

    • @metalpuppet5798
      @metalpuppet5798 Год назад +1

      This can happen when you are using backing tracks as well. Backing tracks are enhancement. They are not there for you to fake your parts. That would be playback

    • @brianjackson6643
      @brianjackson6643 Год назад

      The “real deal” is every time I go listen to local live music. Pretty easy to find everywhere I’ve been.

    • @brianjackson6643
      @brianjackson6643 Месяц назад

      I go to a LOT of concerts and see a LOT of live music played without backing tracks etc. It really isn’t that rare.

  • @jesse2d
    @jesse2d Год назад +50

    Joe is one of the best for tone and feel and dexterity. What a comeback from a bad situation to a triumph!

  • @greatgiginthesky9287
    @greatgiginthesky9287 Год назад +55

    What professionals. How can anyone not appreciate these musicians.

    • @Saiyan585
      @Saiyan585 Год назад +2

      He should've been wireless.

    • @greatgiginthesky9287
      @greatgiginthesky9287 Год назад

      @@Saiyan585some artists hate wireless due to losing some of the higher frequencies. Can compensate but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Год назад

      @@Saiyan585 I don’t know how reliable those are these days. Just been listening to an old EVH interview where he talked about the probs with the early ones….and of course Nigel Tufnell’s problems on Spinal Tap…lol

    • @trippyvortex
      @trippyvortex Год назад

      You mean the roadies

  • @giltemarsantosguitar
    @giltemarsantosguitar Год назад +7

    My brother. You're Crazy! What a great sound. How peaceful the band was in holding the music's footprint. Joe's confidence in interacting with the band's improvisation, confidence in his technical team.

  • @AmeenKOM
    @AmeenKOM 10 месяцев назад +1

    The keyboardist deserves an extra paycheck. The band is so professional!!

  • @acelarson1872
    @acelarson1872 Год назад +21

    Broken cable turned into an amazing jam, didn't miss a beat pure pros here.

  • @nigelsmith721
    @nigelsmith721 Год назад +9

    That might be the best JS tone I’ve heard. Really organic.

  • @dominicijavier1575
    @dominicijavier1575 Год назад +38

    I love how chill he is with malfunctioning equipment.

  • @nesforce7712
    @nesforce7712 Год назад +19

    That lemon turned into lemonade. the improv section between satch and the keyboard player was awesome.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Год назад +1

      Or Vinegar turned into FINE WINE.....lol

    • @Saiyan585
      @Saiyan585 Год назад

      That was rehearsed. The back and forth was going to happen regardless. They all ended on a dime. Classic rehearsal.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 Год назад

      @@Saiyan585 Saipan , did you see and notice JOE’S GUITAR changing colour ?

  • @funkysanta9052
    @funkysanta9052 Год назад +90

    That's a monster keyboard player

    • @macfarlake
      @macfarlake  Год назад +6

      Oh yes he is! A great player

    • @scottdreher8122
      @scottdreher8122 Год назад +4

      Ray is also a great singer as well.

    • @MichaelRinus
      @MichaelRinus Год назад +2

      And also plays guitar - I was really impressed in many ways and liked the really jazzy stuff he soloed a lot :)

    • @J.G.M.Jr.
      @J.G.M.Jr. Год назад +1

      I dunno know man...he looks like a righteous, super nice dude!

    • @Marcodejong030468
      @Marcodejong030468 Год назад

      Mooie opname kerel!

  • @fabiencourtoistapping
    @fabiencourtoistapping Год назад +1

    EXELLENT THE JAMM JAZZ AND ROCK BETWEEN THE CLAVIER AND JOE

  • @valentinloew
    @valentinloew Год назад +48

    the solo and back and forth once he fixes that cable is absoutely epic !! That's a band !

    • @LorenScott69
      @LorenScott69 Год назад +5

      Yea, and it was cool that Joe saw that the jamming was entertaining the crowd. So, even after he got the issue fixed, he didn’t immediately have them move back to Plan A. They stuck with the jam for a bit first. It was awesome!

    • @valentinloew
      @valentinloew Год назад +5

      @@LorenScott69 Absolutely it really show's how much feeling he has and how much he respects his band. I've watched maybe a hundred different versions of ice nine and i've studied the song and some of the licks he plays one this one are reaaaaly inspired and cool, so sometimes the unexpected can bring cool best. I go see him in nantes on may 4th can't wait 🙂

    • @j_freed
      @j_freed Год назад

      What's the way you have to use the moment… Completely unexpected interruption, total state change., completely unexpected new interaction for the audience to enjoy.

    • @Saiyan585
      @Saiyan585 Год назад

      This is why you play live wireless if you're going to move around kids.

    • @valentinloew
      @valentinloew Год назад +1

      @@Saiyan585 playing wireless can have an effect on the signal, so it's a big no no for joe i think. I read an article recently where he explains he tries to have the shortest cable possible while playing live be cause he can feel the difference when playing with longer cables. i found it pretty wild^^

  • @zackwhite1
    @zackwhite1 Год назад +8

    amazing recovery... what a band

  • @themoonster5682
    @themoonster5682 Год назад +1

    Total professionals! Brilliantly improvised!

  • @annvisser9003
    @annvisser9003 Год назад +15

    Was there!! Great show and a fantastic band!! 👏♥️🎸💯

  • @conatutube
    @conatutube Год назад +7

    Absolutely brilliant the way the rest of the guys just carried on - So professional.

  • @beachcomber4141
    @beachcomber4141 Год назад +5

    Damn, that was killer!! Joe liked the break down so much he just went with it and the guitar vs. keyboard part of the show was born!! Joe in his 60's is still an absolute shred king. The most tasteful and soulful shredder ever.

  • @BUNKERJR53
    @BUNKERJR53 Год назад +40

    That's when you know you have a group of professionals when you break a cable and turn it into a masterpiece.

    • @dvsdez
      @dvsdez Год назад

      Best comment 🎉

  • @LorenScott69
    @LorenScott69 Год назад +14

    WOW!! That was as smooth as it gets for the whole band. Love it!! Also, notice just after 6:46, when the band was at a spot where they could elegantly switch from "emergency jam" mode back into Ice-9, they hardly made any noticeable cue. Just Kenny (drums) started with the accented crashes, and there they were. Not sure if anyone was talking to them all via their in-ear monitors to make that happen so smoothly or what, but... that's as professional as it gets!

    • @valentinloew
      @valentinloew Год назад +1

      In my humble humble opinion i think i saw joe jut giving a look to kenny that meant " let's go back to the song" and it was enough, these guys know each other really well. I could be wrong though i dont think joe plays with an ear monitor ;)

    • @LorenScott69
      @LorenScott69 Год назад +3

      @@valentinloew I watched again closely and don’t see Joe giving Kenny (or anyone) any visual cues. Perhaps it’s in the riff that Joe does near the end of that previous measure that the band just gets as a signal. ???

    • @valentinloew
      @valentinloew Год назад +1

      @@LorenScott69 I did too and i think i saw hi: turn but once again. but yes you're correct, the last couple of bars of the jam lead to a resolution, for kenny and the other guys, it's enough of a cue in itself

    • @DomingoVoiceOver
      @DomingoVoiceOver Год назад +2

      If you watch other versions of Ice9 from this same tour you’ll notice that when this extended breakdown solo section goes from trading 2 bars of gtr / 2 bars of keys to all-Joe with no more trading (here @6:36) that’s the signal that we’re in the final 8 bars and the hits are coming. Great musicians. Super tight and an amazing performance.

    • @LorenScott69
      @LorenScott69 Год назад +1

      @@DomingoVoiceOver Ahhhh!!! Thanks for that. I wasn’t aware that the planned live version did include the extended solo section. So, once Joe was connected again, I presume their normal amount of back and forth just happened as usual. (Correct?) In any case… this is what it looks like when seasoned professional are on stage!! :)

  • @leonardovitacolonna
    @leonardovitacolonna Год назад +1

    E tutto si trasformò in una super jam jazz funk! Si dovrebbero rompere più volte i cavi ai chitarristi! (e lo dico da amante di Joe!)

  • @johncrace911
    @johncrace911 Год назад +8

    Satch is just always such a pro. Seen him many times. Always Great.

  • @leafygreentree
    @leafygreentree Год назад +1

    Seamless and beyond professional. Love it! This made my day! Thanks for staying with it camera guy!

  • @redbull8661
    @redbull8661 Год назад +2

    I have a friend (Nikki) that plays bass in a band and said he used to have this happen to him all the time, but not on his last tour.

  • @kevindiyco
    @kevindiyco Год назад +3

    A blessing in disguise. Loved that keyboard solo. 🤘

  • @prestonjoy8092
    @prestonjoy8092 Год назад +2

    All Star Show right there! Awesome professionalism, and improvisation... Lock in tight..

  • @damham5689
    @damham5689 Год назад +5

    Joe was so cool about it. Not all musicians are. Back in the 1980s I went to a Todd Rundgrend solo concert here in the St Louis area. He starts to play a ovation 12 string for his opening song, stops, pulls it off and slams it up against the wall. Storms around for a minute on stage then says, " I pay good money to have my shit in tune"

    • @rdog421
      @rdog421 Год назад

      What a immature reaction, embarrassing in fact.

    • @damham5689
      @damham5689 Год назад

      @@rdog421 yes it was

  • @sharronhumphries6727
    @sharronhumphries6727 Год назад +2

    So cool, thank you for sharing !!!.

  • @jonizefox
    @jonizefox Год назад +5

    2:07 the guitar tech shortened the cable here, and forgot to lenghten it just after...

  • @papaflann
    @papaflann Год назад +3

    Ray Thistletwaite is a phenom keyboard player who i found out about through following Louis Cole. Ray toured with Louis for a good while abroad in Europe etc....I know he was the keyboardist when Knower played live at Stuttgart...which is on youtube...it'll blow your mind

  • @ImproveYourMagic
    @ImproveYourMagic Год назад +1

    That was AWESOME!!
    They should permanently add that to the show. I’ve only seen Joe once. On the Flying in a blue dream tour in Boston. Around 1991

  • @themayor3263
    @themayor3263 Год назад +2

    I was being Captain Skept-ismo thinking this is going to be a half ass distaster.... OH NO! WOW this is what live music is all about. When you can feel the energy from a monitor watching youtube and get chills thats the magic we all look for as musicians....Glad its caught on video...Thanks MACFARLAKE

  • @JOHNNYBGUITARS
    @JOHNNYBGUITARS Год назад +1

    This is why live shows are so great and important!!! Everyone got a huge treat that they weren't expecting!!

  • @Tascamaniac
    @Tascamaniac Год назад +4

    Having been a Satriani fan for decades I should be allowed to say it: Rai Thistlethwayte could play around Joe. Fantastic musician.

    • @beachcomber4141
      @beachcomber4141 Год назад

      Same here, since the 80's and he still sounds freakin' amazing. What control over the guitar that guy has.

  • @punkymontana
    @punkymontana Год назад +5

    That's some hot rodie action going on right there.
    well done that rodie!

  • @paolonicolas1056
    @paolonicolas1056 Год назад +3

    Yeah Rai, that was sick!!

  • @aaccount24
    @aaccount24 8 месяцев назад

    I've seen and listened a *lot* of Joe, and he still he still regularly makes me say HOLY CRAP. And man, are they having a blast up there.

  • @albertdiezruiz8827
    @albertdiezruiz8827 Год назад +2

    WHAT A BAND!!!! OH MY GOD!!!! SUPERBE!!! ROCK GIANTS!!! SATCH IS A GUITAR GOD!!!!! 👌👍🔥🧨💣👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🔥🔥

  • @BigHairyGuitars
    @BigHairyGuitars Год назад +3

    Rai Thistlethwayte on keys. What a beast!

  • @philip6057
    @philip6057 Год назад +1

    Masters at work!!

  • @kevinbroussard2208
    @kevinbroussard2208 Год назад +2

    This shows they aren’t just hired backup musicians. They are an actual band.

  • @MrUmandMrEr
    @MrUmandMrEr Год назад +8

    Joe should break a cable more often. That was great.

  • @DreDawg3000
    @DreDawg3000 Год назад +12

    Wow, that is a jaw dropping performance by everyone! That was incredible.

  • @tjn0110
    @tjn0110 Год назад +1

    I sometimes find it amazing how delicate the links that hold the chain of a (rock) concert together. Strings worth $1 a piece, 9v batteries in the pedals, cables that require only a couple pounds of pressure to release... etc. what could possibly go wrong!

  • @rschelyoung8705
    @rschelyoung8705 Год назад +2

    Forget Bonamassas Nerdsville.. this is NORDSVILLE! awesome .

  • @keggers101
    @keggers101 Год назад +5

    True professionalism right there, great to see Joe still using the JVMs even though theres no longer an endorsement with marshall,they sound awesome

  • @NicleT
    @NicleT Год назад

    Very good document. Thanks for sharing.

  • @perpetualparanoia
    @perpetualparanoia Год назад +4

    OH YES!!! Joe is the best.. 🔥👌🙏🎬

  • @ChrisM541
    @ChrisM541 Год назад +8

    Joe now realises he has a keyboard player - and more importantly - a stunning virtuoso............who NEEDS TO BE HEARD MORE !!!
    ...and a phenomenal Bass player too !!!
    ...and a phenomenal Drummer too !!!
    ...all in all, a thoroughly competent band, if I say so myself.

  • @SaS-Music
    @SaS-Music Год назад +1

    Pure energy behind the kit. Kenny Rocks, as does the rest of the band.

  • @enjoyyoursleep1
    @enjoyyoursleep1 Год назад +2

    'Dayyyyymmmm' That Keyboard Players save of the guitar cable moment!

  • @pythonflying
    @pythonflying Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing this, true pros right there.

  • @WilmerLebron
    @WilmerLebron Год назад +14

    This has happened to me a couple of times and it’s annoying. But just like Joe showed her we have to maintain our attitude and stay cool! Awesome!

  • @V6Arese
    @V6Arese Год назад +1

    Pure live music ! Awesome

  • @rosapacione-dx7bd
    @rosapacione-dx7bd Год назад +2

    Joe is an amazing guitarist.👍 ☺💜

  • @nicolasroy6654
    @nicolasroy6654 Год назад +1

    Wow jazz blues impro . You can break cable as you want Joe !!!! This band Rock !!!!!

  • @RonoMorph
    @RonoMorph Год назад +5

    THIS IS TRUE MUSICIANSHIP!

  • @azmadishredder4115
    @azmadishredder4115 Год назад +2

    this was so absolutely awesome ... an accident became spectacular momentum show,.. #Thumbs

  • @andybrown6748
    @andybrown6748 Год назад +2

    Pros being pros! Nothing like watching a smooth recovery!

    • @beachcomber4141
      @beachcomber4141 Год назад

      Indeed!!! And that was a smooth recovery if there ever was one.

  • @Dcba964
    @Dcba964 Год назад +2

    Love those moments! So rock' n roll 🤘🤘🤘

  • @niteboatermusic
    @niteboatermusic Год назад

    fabulous playing all around, great things happen in the strangest moments!

  • @merlin5420
    @merlin5420 Год назад

    3:05 Hats off to Grandmaster Satches new keyboardist!! Shiiiiieeeeeettttt never in my life did I ever think I would hear a jazz funk version of Ice9 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @r2orobles338
    @r2orobles338 Год назад +2

    that keys guy picked it up like as if they rehearsed it!!! True Pro's!!!

  • @lastdaysguitar
    @lastdaysguitar Год назад +2

    First saw Joe live in the 1980's the man never disappoints!

  • @StudioUSA-ks2xi
    @StudioUSA-ks2xi Год назад +1

    Cables can be manufactured to fail when a selected herz / frequency / voltage is added or increase . Or decreased if amperage is used . A person contrling his AC power can turn on this device at anytime. Or it can be remotely triggered .

    • @StudioUSA-ks2xi
      @StudioUSA-ks2xi Год назад

      But why during "Ice 9" ? The Beatles have a guess ( Number Nine , Number Ni ne ! )

  • @pesadigitalart1241
    @pesadigitalart1241 Год назад

    No one seems to have noticed. Look at 1:18, Joe is in front of the drummer, the cable is long enough, then he goes to his right and at 1:25 someone pulls the cable (so that Joe doesn't get tangled around his legs), at 2:45 Joe tries go back to the middle of the stage but he can't because the cable is suddenly too short. The technician is responsible for what happened.
    It's strange that Joe doesn't use a wireless system, if you walk around it's easier. 🎸

  • @claudiocruzat8777
    @claudiocruzat8777 Год назад +2

    "Technical difficulties turn into amazing guitar /keyboard live class." Happy accidents.

  • @kieranoconnor333
    @kieranoconnor333 Год назад +5

    From Rockstar Satriani to Uncle Joe clapping his hands at a gig

  • @gregdetwiler9220
    @gregdetwiler9220 Год назад

    I saw Joe in concert once. He’s beautiful to listen to!!

  • @rubonz7714
    @rubonz7714 Год назад +1

    Wasn't really paying attention to the vid and thought to myself: That key playing seems so familar.... sounds like Rai T... ;) Didnt even know he was touring with Satch atm. Another reason to go see him live.

  • @solidpnoy
    @solidpnoy Год назад +1

    True professionalism of a band! Damn!

  • @mikebrown9850
    @mikebrown9850 Год назад

    Love the keyboard duel. Great band!

  • @AlfredoPerazaL
    @AlfredoPerazaL Год назад +1

    Amazing 🙌🙌🙌

  • @Saturax
    @Saturax Год назад +3

    Bryan still groovin as hell

    • @Mr1Tanker
      @Mr1Tanker Год назад

      With a mask on! 🤣

  • @fabioyamagami6157
    @fabioyamagami6157 Год назад +1

    Satch’s a great musician and human being! Awesome jam 🤘

  • @DalltonSantos
    @DalltonSantos 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing! 🔥

  • @mallit
    @mallit Год назад +2

    Great band showing what they really can do!! Guitar tech ?? Looking for a new job. So long to replace cable. Crazy! Nice bit of ad lobbing when finally got going. 😂😂❤

    • @ajlsrv5490
      @ajlsrv5490 Год назад

      You’re hilarious. The guitar tech is a world class guy who has worked for biggest names in the business. I counted 66 seconds start to finish.

    • @mallit
      @mallit Год назад

      @@ajlsrv5490 too long. Should always have a cable ready!

    • @mallit
      @mallit Год назад

      @@ajlsrv5490 the fact that he’s a “ world class “ guitar tech!!!! Makes it worse.

    • @ajlsrv5490
      @ajlsrv5490 Год назад

      @@mallit how so?

    • @mallit
      @mallit Год назад

      @@ajlsrv5490 dugh, because there should have been a cable ready un done on top of or near the amp. Having to root around and undo one shows unpreparedness!!’

  • @U2WB
    @U2WB Год назад +1

    Class Act all the way. True professionals.

  • @JayAgassi
    @JayAgassi Год назад +5

    In another gig of Joe’s “front and center” honoring Les Paul, Mile Keneally’s key board fell off while doing (lies and truths). Joe did an amazing job staying in it. Great video btw 🤘

    • @kimr45
      @kimr45 Год назад +2

      I saw that, Bryan was quick to notice and held Mike's keyboard while playing some bass with one hand.

    • @JayAgassi
      @JayAgassi Год назад

      @@kimr45 yup, that was a cool moment. Joe always have professional crew. Do you play?

    • @kimr45
      @kimr45 Год назад

      @@JayAgassi Yes, I play guitar.

  • @RtaniDean
    @RtaniDean Год назад

    Pros. Outstanding. Just as one would have top level performers and crew take care of business. JS is too cool with incredible players. Thx for sharing. 👣🎵🌟

  • @fatShowPony
    @fatShowPony Год назад +3

    Great to see some jamming - hope Joe can incorporate it on purpose

  • @BenMcrea61
    @BenMcrea61 Год назад +1

    Always good to have a great keyboard player to take over when your guitar or gear packs in….

  • @daveg1431
    @daveg1431 Год назад

    enormous class. my fav of all time. there are many great virtuosos but only one Satch! ♥️

  • @nasticanasta
    @nasticanasta Год назад +2

    That took an awful long time.
    one time we were playing @ The Newport, (the former Agora in Columbus Ohio) and one of our roadies walked behind the backdrop where he was told not to cause it's dark!! And during the show he kicks apart the main feed wires and the whole stage goes silent! Thank god the other roadie who was smart not to walk back there jumped into action and had it fixed within 8 seconds

    • @ajlsrv5490
      @ajlsrv5490 Год назад +2

      Took literally one minute

  • @andyracksthecams
    @andyracksthecams Год назад +1

    Seamless fuck up. Love it. I like the fact a cable is still the preferred link.

  • @pinkham01
    @pinkham01 Год назад +4

    The beauty of live shows, you never know what might happen. Personally, I think I'd use wireless connections to avoid all of the cables, but there's probably good reasons not to.

  • @mapp4751
    @mapp4751 Год назад +1

    Is it not great to see real musicians/artists at work? a reminder what great music is all about! awesome,Thanks

  • @giannigury
    @giannigury Год назад

    Semplicemente unici !!!! Come se niente fosse successo, si continua, si improvvisa e...si da SPETTACOLO !!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @stuartbowlerwell2845
    @stuartbowlerwell2845 Год назад +4

    Vin Diesel's cover of Ice 9 is epic here!

    • @gregmize01
      @gregmize01 Год назад +1

      Never turn your back on family

  • @basilio182
    @basilio182 Год назад +1

    100% live
    10000000% talent!

  • @johnhymanful
    @johnhymanful Год назад +2

    A clever professional at the top of his game.

  • @rolandolimon2260
    @rolandolimon2260 Год назад +3

    This was actually entertaining

  • @Timaustex
    @Timaustex Год назад

    That. Was. AWESOME!

  • @flanneldaddy5220
    @flanneldaddy5220 Год назад

    Those few licks at 4:18 sounded just like SRV. That was cool as hell

  • @TheOverlordOfProcrastination
    @TheOverlordOfProcrastination Год назад +1

    What a fuckin keyboard solo…. Fucking off the chart 👌🏼

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 Год назад +9

    What? No tantrum or smashed guitar? Oh, he must be a professional musician.....and a great one - at that.

  • @d4rkc0ntr0l
    @d4rkc0ntr0l Год назад +1

    Rai Thistlethwayte is a monster!

  • @gj4679
    @gj4679 Год назад +2

    There are just as many notes as I require, that's why I DON'T NEED TO GO LOOKING FOR THEM RB!

  • @intelectoturbo
    @intelectoturbo Год назад

    Professionals, true professionals.