Introducing The Hot New Magic: The Gathering Format That Is Not Going To Last!
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Professor why not Oathbreaker I recently played it and loved it. While still improving my bant Oathbreaker.
Illustrator duel commander (IDC) is a fun format that requires to play only cards of the same illustrator than your commander. It's really fun, we play it every first of april.
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Just to be clear: The last scene is the "real" lesson. The skit is satire. A joke written by someone who has promoted formats like Oathbreaker (which I love!) and seen the reaction. I love Magic and I love crazy, stupid new formats (you really should check out Gladiator, it rocks) and I love just playing this game. Who cares? Get some games.
The real satire is that existential dread of running out of MTG related things to be sarcastic and snarky about.
I loved Oathbreaker and King. :( I wish they had taken off more.
gladiator is rad, can confirm
@@jaredbarton6161 i hope you can maybe get them to be a sometimes thing with your play groups (if you're lucky enough to have them) cause then you can still get in games of them even if they're not the most popular!
To me the formats are for people who want something fresh from the game
This Format is so hot, it's going to burn itself to the ground before you get the chance to play it.
No, burn isn't viable in the new format.
@@IanWeaver Which is why I said burn and not Burn.
My personal favorite was the one that somehow got taken over by literal neonazis before anyone got the chance to play it. Man, that was weird.
@@Nvenom8. The Neo Nazi part wasn't needed in your Comment.
@@SmaugUKA That's literally what happened. I'm not making it up.
Pauper Commander is so underrated, it becomes cooler and cooler with the new sets.
Honestly, I think any kind of pauper format (except original I guess?) Is underrated. Pauper cube is freaking great too and no one plays it...
I like how Oathbraker isn’t in either of the successful/failure lists.
Oathbreaker actually seems pretty fun but I've yet to try it
@@peepeefart Definitely fun, but really hard to balance from a banning perspective. The signature spell mechanic is both the formats greatest strength, and its greatest weakness.
Yeah I played Oathbraker for a total of 2 games...
Noticed that too, it's my favorite alternative to edh and standard
Ditto with historic and pioneer
Aussie Highlander getting a mention warms my heart
I actually really like Australian Highlander.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege But not more than Canadian Highlander, right? Riiiiight?!
Same but for pauper commander *violently ignores that it was in the irrelevant formats section of the video*
Love a good shoutout :)
Australian Highlander?
Say what you want, I'm buying out Gyruda, Doom of Depths and when Even Stevens takes off I'll make bank. Bank, I tell you!
Will be the first ban lol.
@@jimbones5621 That's when I'm rolling in with Odd Todds and playset of Obosh, the Preypiercer
buying out void winnower for even stevens jk
STONKS
Is it sad that even stevens actually sounds kinda fun?
Guy at Wizards: "Write that down, write that down."
"How can we screw this up"
Guy at Wizards: "Oh wait, this is from the Professor!" *Throws whole notebook into the fire*
"format's gonna last three weeks!"
"Six pro tours and arena!"
I get the reference
Hahaha
A+
and a Masters set
I understood that reference and I laughed
"...it's around now." is the best argument for playing any format, right after "Well, I think it's fun." That's why my playgroup still play Oathbreaker here and there.
As long as you don't buy any new cards for it, I think it's totally fun to just brew up a new deck with some weird gimmick restriction, use it like three times, and then break it down to use for another flash-in-the-pan format later.
True. And I'm all for new/niche formats - as long as the people advocating for them aren't constantly trying to so while degrading other, more established formats. It's cool if you like Pioneer, but you don't need to shit on Modern to advertise it, same for Oathbreaker over Commander etc.
I fucking love oath breaker.
Oathbreaker is fun. I have a couple decks made, and a few friends play it occasionally.
@@Nr4747 my LGS sadly has one player who will come to Commander nights and basically rant at people if they don't want to play Oathbreaker with him, especially if they politely decline and say they have no interest in the format.
I love the final skit because it absolutely encapsulates why I like those sorts of formats. Even if you will never again hear of it in a year or two, it's still to wrap your head around a new format that doesn't adhere to the meta and play some games that don't go exactly as the routine.
I personally love the concept of brewing in a mostly unknown format, discovering what knew bizarre combos and strategies this gimmick/weird card pool allows, but am not as interested in playing a constructed environment after it matures.
Paused to read the "Gavin Verhey article" and I was not disappointed. Made me spit out my coffee.
Joseph Burns was that real? I couldn't find it in wizards' site.
@@macurvello no, it was a spoof article lol if you pause the video you can read through for a chuckle
Is that a jab at Brawl or something?
I'm feeling rly stupid not getting the point of the whole video haha. I get it's satire about unpopular formats but I'm not sure if it's a jab at Wizards, self criticism, both or neither 😅
0:32
Not gonna lie, thought the article was real and tried finding it online before reading the screenshot 🤣🤣
2:37 Hey, PauperEDH is actually pretty neat. It will never become as big as regular EDH of course, but it is a nice change of pace from time to time.
I wish to double like this comment. I play both and I like the interaction in pauper EDH because I enjoy pauper.
I feel like there's a single adjustment pauper EDH needs, and that's to actually use legendary creatures as commanders.
Now that we do have a few sets of multicolor uncommon legendaries, imo that should be doable.
@@Tacklepig I’ve been using legendary uncommons since Dominaria, but have been playing pauper EDH since 2018. The interactions in pauper EDH are just as splashy and interesting as regular EDH, but with a bit more grind. Do you play adjusted rules for pauper like 18 commander damage and/or 30 life?
I like it because there is not much online support for the format which means I'm forced to make my own deck rather than netdecking.
Are only the 100 card deck pauper or does the commander also has to be common?
Video Idea: You explain every Magic format that exists and has existed, but you have only 60 seconds per format
Edit: there are less than 20 formats, even if you include the strange ones, so it will 20 minutes max. But if you want to, you can cut it down the 30 or 20. 15 seems a bit short for going over the deck building criterias, how it plays and, if it failed, why.
Explain every magic format in 10 words or less
this but he has only 15 secpnds.
@@guilhermeribeiro402 I would love to see this.
Going to assume that would be more than half hour long.
For most formats the description would be: it's dead ... and move to the next one or it's unhealthy at the moment
2:10 That new pronunciation for MMORPG is going to haunt me
Please don’t ever say “m-morpager” ever again!!
When I realized how Prof pronounced MMORPG I died, metaphorically of course
Ben Wheeler's gonna be here any minute now.
Lol
He'll be busy breaking the new format, ruin it, and point out why it's a format you'll never play.
cruel
Everybody knows that "Todds Odds" is superior to "Evens Stevens"!
Do your homework!
Both could be in the same format. Would make an interesting decision of which one you would play.
People are going to shit themselves when I play Void Winnower in "Todds Odds"
Dear Professor, you didn’t mentioned 1vs1 Centurion Commander😁the most played Commander variant in Italy😉
Centurion Best Commander Format WW
I've never heard of centurion commander, hows it work?
Centurion is an Italian format, with a large community and several Italian content creators, including us at Underground Sea, who talk about it extensively. For over a year, several players have been helping us make primers on this beautiful format.
wtf why no Rush?
I've been playing centurion for 2 years, it's the best format I've played in years
So i had no idea what Rainbow Stairwell was so i looked it up. And honestly? Kinda wanna try it
Still couldn't get my friends to try it with me, but it sounds like it could be a blast.
I play it every once in a while on arena with friends, but it basically just boils down to who can actually cast their spells. Also treasure map is banned because it's absolutely busted
Man, I really want to build a Judge's Tower stack to muck about with friends haha
"Oops! All tokens!" will make it for sure, don't lie.
I'm trying to find it anywhere, where is it???
@@frogzard101 Same, I actually want to play this format lol. Only thing I'm finding is Commander decks though
Memorpager is a word getting added to my vocabulary, thanks Prof!
the end really is the thing that ties this all together: who cares if it is going to last or not, let's play it while it does. made the most of oathbreaker until it finally broke down
Exactly. The skit is satire for giggles, the ending is truth.
aaand I just red brian's own comment.
you'd think somebody that could type could also read lmao
3 card blind is so darn good. I often dream of getting a little corner of the LGS bulletin board to post results with a little drop box for people to submit their decklists.
I'm sorry, how did you pronounce MMORPG again?
"Morpger"
I love playing "Momorpajas"
MehMoRPGer
mo-mor-pe-jer
Morpork
"Momoperger" :P Beautiful
The fact that you had the big print of Die Young in that last scene was not lost on me. You ain't slick Prof
3CB is actually a thing in one of the German MTG forums. We have a more or less frequent group of 10-16 players, sometimes more, that play it every 2 weeks over the time of one week (everyone has 1 week to send in a deck). The winner of the last round is allowed to say the special rules for the new round and ban specific cards for that round only (like "every player starts with emblem x in play" or "the upkeep is skipped . the pacts are banned").
Pioneer not even mencioned hurts my feelinhs cause i love it ;(
Pioneer is an undead format, Hopefully it gets it's legs back when paper magic comes back!
Don’t worry Pioneer is Modern like, since it’s eternal and quite competitive it’s very likely to get right back up once paper magic is around.
I played it the first few weeks with a modified blue red prowess deck and by that third week i had played that red phoenix deck 4 times in a night. Decided it wasn't for me at that point.
I think he avoided mentioning it on purpose to sort of highlight how it broke the pattern of new formats not sticking. After all, Pioneer has had pro tours and is coming to Arena so it has lasted to a degree.
@@TheGreatDeliveryBoy well he also didn't mention it on the list of established formats so🤷♂️
Me, who hasn't played a single Magic game yet because of sheer luck that I started getting into MTG back in 2020 : this is fine
This isn't even a bad time to get started. Join a MTG community, get cockatrice and play a few games without any risk. When paper magic becomes relevant again, you will already know how the game works and what you like.
Hey, as someone that also started to get into magic in 2020 and learning with mtg arena i feel like we're making the best out of the current situations by learning the basics and more advanced mechanics in an online format :D. So when we'll get a chance to play paper we'll know how things work
Seriously, cockatrice is a great shout. Alternatively you can use untap but I think cockatrice runs smoother. Basically it's free to download software that lets you build decks and play games for absolutely free. It's one of the major ways my playgroup has survived lockdown.
You forgot to mention Rush! Heh heh... Yeah.
@@AlexBermann Moxfield/Archidekt/Tappedout + virtual cam so you can play virtually in Spelltable is much better, only downside is needing two screens to do so.
RIP Pioneer, somehow managed to not get mentioned once in the giant lists of formats :v
Tells you everything about the format.
It's heart breaking because that's all me and my group plays.
Your humor cracks me up. Thanks for loving this game, and constantly being entertaining and informative.
1:20 Don't forget about German Highlander, which predates both Canadian & Australian.
Dear lord, that tie/shirt combo is eye watering.
this was the first that I recognized^^
I call this combo "Electric Watermelon".
Prof setting the fashion world on fire.
Dude, that combo is awesome! Your life must be rather drab. Sorry about that.
I never realised Prof was a Jund player until now.
I still wish WotC would expand on planechase. One of the craziest times I have ever had playing Magic
I want some more planechase-specific cards. Like a Kor that gets a bonus if you are currently on Zendikar.
Wanderer gets an exclusive card that gets stronger whenever you shift planes. Also, you have to pay a cumulative cost to have it stay in the same plane, which gets reset on planeshift.
They should make Planeswalk cards that put a Plane card into play.
So here's my new hotness: 80 card decks with up to two of each card excluding basic lands, 30 starting life, and it includes all sets from KTK to present.
Did Oathbreaker get mentioned? Everyone's still playing that right? Right?.....
Oathbreaker a format where werewolves is fun
@@mechpilotviolet1478 Oathbreaker is a format that exist
Me and some friends were actually planning on building decks for Oathbreaker for our next FNM. Of course that week lockdown started so it never went anywhere.
Would still like to try it.
@@SphereofEmotion It's so damn fun...
I really wish outbreaker had more legs it sounded pretty fun
This was a fantastic video. The part where it popped up with all the videos you made on the random formats made me laugh so hard. Your comedy bits are always incredible Prof!
the magic club i play with, which usually plays commander, just heard about tiny leaders, and some of us built decks and had a blast with it. One guy cut his tuvasa voltron commander deck in half for tiny, and some of us slapped together some stuff we just couldn't make work in regular commander, and had a great time.
Honestly I'm just amazed at how flawlessly you translated mmorpg to spoken language. You're a legend!
Huh, Oathbreaker wasn't mentioned. Guess thats just how dead it is
I still have my vraska deathtouch deck together. I tell myself that when the gamestores open game nights back up I will be able to bust it out. Really I’m just waiting for a good deathtouch commander in golgari.
I'm chilling with my Arlin Kord werewolf deck myself lol
"We *have* to stop doing this to ourselves!"
"Ooh, that looks like fun" _Does it, again_
That's the point, he's saying just do what you think is fun.
^crazy u got all that formats together while recording this vid!
I was a bit surprised at the tone of the video until the last bit, but it all worked out in the end. Well played.
No mention of Pioneer, the hottest new format in Magic: The Gathering?😲
pioneer is a real format
Pioneer is genuinely surviving
@@KhanGarth But he literally never mentioned it when listing off real formats. The shade.
It's in between, it hasn't proven itself like penny dreadful but it hasn't failed like block constructed.
@@ManaDrain315 true, I think its just that he doesn't yet feel like its a "real" format
The tongue in cheek in your funny videos is just always a pure delight! Never change Prof!
I always love how prof looks so happy relative to his titles and what's written on his thumbnails
Shoutout to Rainbow Stairwell! We tried that out at our LGS in CO in the early 2000s.
If it is listed on the Scryfall site then it's relevant
Wholesome ending. I approve
Love the lime top. The vest and tie really make it pop.
That article cracked me up, wonderfully done, Prof.!
The way he said MMORPG killed me 😂
A pandemic where most people aren't playing in paper is the best time to introduce a new format, tbh...
Right, like onto Arena.
So they can't notice how boring and/or conveluted it is to actually play and instead spend all their time talking about it and deckbuilding.
Honestly, Cockatrice is the best place to try these flash-in-the-pan formats because there's no financial investment for something that probably won't stick around and making decks is really quick.
Gladiator is just CandLander using the cards available on Arena, it literally just exists because of the pandemic.
Hey Prof I'm really digging your get up in this one. The shirt and tie look super rad!
I remember playing a game of king, brought my subpar biovisionary deck, turns out it's easy to pulll off when nobodies touching you
If we could separate our spells and lands into two separate piles we could get rid of mana screw.
Basically the same method used in the game Force of Will (and to a lesser extent Argent Saga).
You'd also get rid of variance as a stop gap for power disparity in deckbuilding and massively cut down on the amount of player decision making required to play well. Basically you'd turn the game into something that plays itself even more than it already does and that's bad. Besides, the land-deck system is far too baked into the rules to change that drastically now.
You just made one of the most powerful mechanics in the game (drawing cards) even more powerful.
That’s the worst idea I heard to improve the game. Sincerly.
How I imagine it would work is:
- when you draw you decide which pile to draw from.
- still have 60 card main deck with 4 of minimum.
- fetch still works the same (faster)
- yes this would create a whole new meta. I know it's scary guys. This is just a thought experiment by the way.
"muhmorpedger"
Someone's a Zero Punctuation/Yahtzee fan, mayhaps?
If Yahtzee said it and it's clever he took it from someone else.
Thank you for introducing me to the idea of Pauper Commander.
Great ending. I like the positive outlook, Prof.
I like the prof, he looks like a Sean Bean build-a-bear.
You forgot Oathbreaker! You even did videos about it! You monster! :P
Okay but Emperor was one of my favorite kitchen table formats and was super fun. Jank could reign king and it was fun trying to strategize around where to put attackers and blockers.
Just spent an hour looking at all the formats I'd never heard of. Really want to try Oathbreaker, Assassin, Rainbow Stairwell, and Solomon Draft!
Pauper EDH is booming!
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Ooh, hard format... time to binge the whole channel...
Does it count if it's Evil Professor?
@@blindey do they share the body?
@@Wearywastrel I dunno. I haven't seen them in the same room as each other.
@@blindey hmmm... maybe, I think it's a hard maybe.
Gosh that was a wholesome and effective ending. These nice bits of writing in your episodes are really appreciated 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Oathbreaker IS my favourite format. I not many people have decks for it so I set out to make a battle box with the uncommon planeswalkers from War of the Spark. So far I have finished building 4 decks.
Is it captain?!
A format with 'tegridy!
Ok, so I wasn’t feeling this video, then I realized what it was. I like it.
A skit with a message.
This is what I did with Oathbreaker. I took what I had (saheeli sublime artificer and battered golem) bought some cheerios from my lgs and built a banishing knack deck for OB. It was fun. We all built with what we already had and it was a fun week.
Also assassin/rogue (we in the upper mid west called assassin Rouge and had slightly different regional rules) and Emperor both offer interesting ways to play the game if everyone agrees on the rules.
I feel called out
Hey, Emperor still gets some regular play.
Yeah but that is a gameplay variant not a deck building one. Like 2 headed giant or king. You can play all those variants using any format.
Accurate on the whole breaking format. As there was a time where Oathbreaker had some issues on banned cards and I was allowed to play Channel in a Nissa, Who Shakes the World + Genesis Wave deck. The deck could already X=40 on turn 4, Channel was redundant.
Coming back to this it's funny to see him bring up Pauper Commander and years later promote it
I think even Leapfrog would take off if it was supported on Arena, the handful of formats on the platform really wears thin after a while, especially when Standard is in a bad way. Not saying I actually want Leapfrog, I'd love to see Gladiator queues though.
My hottest of hot takes: I really like Historic Brawl. Has a lot of the flavor and feel of commander, take less time to play. It’s commander lite, great for a Lunch time games.
And that's why you can't play it outside of events
I agree! Based on how MTG Arena's client is set up, it looks like multiplayer won't ever be an option, which would really sell Historic Brawl to Commander players. I'd be delighted if I was proven wrong by WotC...
@@patrickmchugh4616 And now that they're pushing it to work on mobile as well, they literally don't have the screen real estate to try and multiplayer it.
Ive been watching all the tolarian tutors! They're great!
2:26
Well dang!
I've only played about 10 of those.
Oathbreaker wasn't mentioned at all.
Is it because Oathbreaker isn't a failed format? Are they bringing back Oathbreaker? Oathbreaker was so much fun. Hope Hope
It's likely because Oathbreaker was never sanctioned.
@@GoodRogue you're not sanctioned. There how does that feel? Not good I bet.
Actually this feels great, so joke's on you bruv
Disclaimer: I loved Oathbreaker for what it wanted to be. A playgroup I tried it in has quickly made me regret it though.
Come on, PDH is not a fail format, just another casual take on commander itself.
Did you see that Prof didn't put Oathbreaker in the list? List beliving it?
And on that note, he didn't even mention Rush! Terrible research smh
I like making PDH decks to play in low powered EDH metas. It provides a deck-building challenge and lets me tinker with my deck and constantly upgrade it without it becoming too powerful
I forget the format name, but the one where you had a planeswalker as a commander plus a sorcery or instant you can play on repeat was fun.
After hearing about someone's new proposed format, I'm delighted at how evergreen this video is going to be.
I also like how tongue in cheek this is - who cares if something catches on in the wider community, if your friends are down then play what you find fun! (My group actually played Standard Pauper Rainbow Stairwell once! Once.)
lol, that fake mothership article was amazing!
We focus on what’s “alive” too much. Sure, quirky formats never garner a competitive scene, but I don’t seem to care. My favorite way to play magic is with my friends. And we have a vast library of weird stupid gimmick formats at our disposal. Who cares if they’re “dead”? Someone still made the rules. We can still have a good time.
prismatic pentagram was the one i was interested most but well can't have it all :P and emperor is actually played in my local game shop with a commander twist a lot. Also i might miss but there was planechase and vanguard as well as archenemy.
My friends and I play emperor/kingdom all the time (whatever where everybody has a secret role (emperor/knight/bandit/assassin/usurper)). Since we have a playgroup of 6, sometimes 7, it keeps large games fun and interactive.
Professor: lists all the formats that didn't stay popular
Me: Hey, I actually know what all of these are and like them!
Am I the only one who thought that this was an announcement for a actual new format? I didn't figure out the joke until the end and a look into the comments.
I have the Jace and vraska tiny decks. Now I want a deck of giant cards like that die young card.
Pauper Commander is over a decade old and still thriving!
I love the edited article, and the amount of salt in this video is TOO DANG HIGH! (and accurate!) I had never heard of Judge's Tower and I hate that it exists.
And what the heck is DC-10: Type 4? That sounds like a Yu-Gi-Oh cardname
Maybe you could shorten this and exploit the Shorts feature? 🤔
The very fact that Judges Tower is played on the premise that neither player can really make decisions or has much knowledge of the rules makes the format just not competitive and completely random, removing any possible fun you could have in the format.
MTG is a decision based, skill based card game. Downgrading a format to Judge’s Tower is just insulting to MTG.
Can we have a format called "middle class" where you can only use uncommons? I'm not a filthy pauper, and 1% is too rich for my blood.
It exists and it's called peasant not pauper
Uncommons include Force of Will...
Actually there is an active Tribal Wars community - we have a player run event on mtgo running every week and there even used to be some paper events before covid. It's fun!
I was waiting for the Gladiator mention. I was not disappointed.
Standing by to rejuvenate resuscitate reiterate the TINY LEADERS format. Just say when...
I still have a couple tiny leaders decks lol it was so much fun I hope to run into another casual who has a couple tl decks lol
Tiny Leaders is still my favorite format since 2015, I just built a Magda deck and its AWESOME!
The what now?
Its our groups primary format. We run a monthly tournament with modifications to the ban list. Krark coinflip ended up winning last weeks get together with BUGsnow combo taking 2nd
I'm still building tiny leaders decks! I'm not giving it up!
Tiny Leaders (my friends and I call it 'Little Leaders' since alliteration makes everything better) is what got me into Magic. I get people feel like it stifles creativity, but that limiting was like training wheels for me as I learned how the game worked.
And who doesn't love a format where you call play your mono white bird deck and have it win games too!!?
That is a green I have never seen before. Thank you.
I also remember the attempt that was Tiny Leaders