I’m a nurse. Go ahead and attack the pos Lucy is but don’t attack the other nurses. Intensive care nurses are incredibly tight knit group. A serial nurse is extremely rare and I am certain those other nurses will never forgive themselves for what happened.
apparently being an incredibly tight knit group did not serve anyone well in this situation, so yes, I am going to attack anyone who had a hand in allowing these babies to be murdered on their watch simply because they had too much loyalty or were too afraid of offending someone to do the right thing. I am going to call out when people do bad or harmful things, no matter who that person is, what uniform they wear, or how bad they feel about it.
The Karen that refused to take her off schedule absolutely should be attacked! Never did Stephanie attack ALL nurses. Hit dogs holler. I worked in a facility for YEARS where RNs covered for an LPN who was stealing patients narcotics! Nurses can be crap people too, OBVIOUSLY!
It is very weird to me that you're sitting here feeling personally attacked by the telling of this horrific story. Separate yourself it is NOT about you this is about the people directly responsible for the deaths of those babies which absolutely includes those nurses and staff who did not heed the warnings they were given. over and OVER AGAIN. I'm appalled that you are centering yourself.
Well clearly that hospital was hiring all of the shitty nurses! How did no one catch on to her sooner? Thank god for the doctors who caught on. Stephanie is right, clearly those nurses were TOO close knit since it made them look past horrifying allegations
I agree 100% agree with you Stephanie. As a retired UK nurse, I absolutely believe that EVERY person in a management position who ignored the concerns of the doctors, AND the obvious evidence before their eyes, should be struck off or banned from ever working in healthcare again. I was myself involved in an incident with a terrible nurse, whilst not wilfully harming anyone, her level of knowledge and practice were so dangerous that she would’ve ended up killing someone. I jumped up and down and raised the roof…I wasn’t supported by management as I took the case all the way to the professional body, gave evidence and had her struck off the register. Management hung me out to dry…it’s not encouraged to speak out in the NHS, despite what they tell you! SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, is my motto. Every patient deserves the highest level of care…unless Lucy Letby needs medical treatment…she can ‘flick’ off
Well done to you!! you truly have saved so many lives by doing this so hats off to you!! it's disgusting that they hung you out to dry too! I've heard of pole who have sued hospitals in the uk that have been banned from the hospital that hey sued aswell. It's disgusting how they will do that sort of thing!
Criminologist Dr. David Wilson said something that made me even more chilled by this case, if that's even possible, he said........she was not a nurse who killed, she was a killer who became a nurse so she pray on the most vulnerable members of society.
I'm a nurse; you absolutely have the responsibility to report ANYTHING suspect. I had the uncomfortable situation where a co-worker who was also a good friend was observed by me writing observations in his patients charts without physically doing the observations (ie - lying & endangering patients by negligence); although he was a good friend- i had to take it immediately to management- it felt awful, but it was my professional responsibility to ensure patient safety. Can't believe people were looking the other way in this case. Truly disgusting.
This is what the world needs. Lovely and v important to get on with your co-workers, bit patient safety is no.1. Thanks for work. Nurses are usually the very best of ppl.
That's the thing, even the consultants reported her, not a lot happened. But the kind of response tend to get from trust management teams is pretty much similar to those at the Countess of Chester hospital, in my experience. They still seem to be throwing everyone ese under the bus even now.
The definition of integrity is doing the right thing whether the right thing is done in front of people or not. Thank you for having the integrity to do the right thing. Integrity is in short supply in these times.
I can’t imagine carrying a baby in your belly for months, giving birth, being so excited for the baby to come home, and this POS murders your child for fun. Then she stalks you because she loves seeing parents struggle with the death of their child. More people need to be held accountable for this. They knew something was wrong & didn’t care.
Can you imagine preparing for three babies and just having one to take home? This whole thing made my blood boil. But that in particular made cry for the parents and that one lil baby.
not that I know anything about being mother and will probably never be but it was so sad when she killed kids that were so hard to conceive in the first place and as a person with fertility issues, cannot imagine those mothers pains.
I’m glad *Alison Kelly, Karen Rees, and Ian Harvey* are being highlighted for their negligence too. Grateful for the judge that sentenced Lucy, but I do hope upper management everywhere uses this case to take claims more seriously. Great analysis Steph! 🙌🏻
@elizethompson8627 possibly? She did charity work and had an article about her prior to her murder sprees. Additionally she was very well liked by her colleagues, which i can assume includes management. When word got out that the doctors named her to be looked into, she went straight to senior management - made up that she was being bullied by the group doctors requesting for an investigation- resulting to them having to apologise to her! So it wouldn't surprise me if she had ties to senior management.
Lucy killed 2 identical triplets, leaving only one surviving baby. Identical triplets are a one in 200 million occurrence. How incredibly sad and awful for the parents and sole surviving triplet.
Just so there’s no confusion: this woman is absolutely a serial killer. She’s not “like” a serial killer, she’s a thoroughbred hardened to the core pre meditated serial killer.
Hell I'd call her worse than most serial killers. Killing poor, innocent little babies in cold blood has to be one of the most heinous acts anyone can do.
Respect to the Medical professionals who wouldn’t stop until she was no longer able to *Do Harm* to those poor innocent babies.💔I hope the families sue the hospital & every single hospital official who allowed Lucy continued access to those innocent babies.⚖️
Have been waiting for this episode, Stephanie's sarcasm/irony is almost at British levels. When the judge mentions the physical torture of these little babies, you can't help but cry...... Feel a mixture of deep sorrow, and intense rage that those doctors were ignored !!!
Oh yes we are very good at sarcasm and Stephanie is definitely up there with the best. I am very sarcastic and my daughter now 9 is learning it really well. In the case of Shipman and Allitt it was other medical staff on the ball so why oh why were these doctors not listened to as soon as they voiced concerns - have we not learned? Not only ignored but forced to apologise!!
Ever since the verdict, I have been waiting for Stephanie's follow up. My dad was undecided until he listened to the first 15 mins of this video and he then left the room. How could anyone do this to babies!
As someone who works in a Labor and Delivery unit, on the VERY RARE occasions where a baby is “born sleeping” or we lose a baby shortly after birth, the nurses always need time off. There’s so much trust and care that goes into neonatal care. To betray that trust is unthinkable. My heart goes out to the families of Lucy’s victims. And I hope that whenever she closes her eyes, Lucy sees the faces of the children whose lives she snatched away. I think Lucy is a narcissist who always got what she wanted and she wanted her peers to dote on her and fawn over her like her parents did. When she felt like she was losing the attention of the married doctor, she got desperate and didn’t care who she hurt to reel him back in. She wanted to create a bond through an emotionally draining workplace.
Thanks for your comment, and the others about who she truly was, a narcissistic killer. It’s all I needed to know further. I can’t bear to watch this yet honestly.
Really? I lost twins at 23weeks & everyone I encountered at the hospital was absolutely horrible about it =| I obviously know that’s not normal but yeah
@@WhatthehellokittyxI’m very sorry for your loss. From what I’ve seen and what others report, many doctors and especially nurses lose the their sensitivity to patients’ pain. Even if they don’t feel it, they should learn to fake 😊some compassion!
I saw a picture years ago of some L&D nurses crying in the hallway after a patient had a miscarriage. I used to want to be a nurse but I wouldn't be able to deal with any patients dying, especially children, and that stopped me. I'm simply not strong enough. My own daughter was born 13 weeks premature and every day she spent in the NICU was hell. I was in a constant state of anxiety for 2 months, always expecting her to suddenly crash or pass away at any moment. This was 20 years ago and I still vividly remember the sounds and even smells of the NICU like it was yesterday. To this day I can't smell Hibiclens without having flashbacks. It was so emotionally overwhelming being in there and seeing all those tiny babies just struggling to live. I had to hold back tears during every visit, just knowing that some of those babies who had become little familiar faces might not make it or might have lifelong complications and there was nothing I could do about it. It's the most helpless feeling in the world. Every noise from the machines had my heart racing, I have never been that stressed out before or since having a NICU baby. My girl was strong and just needed to grow, but many of the others were not doing so well. There was one very tiny preemie who was there for a few days but gone the next time I came. I knew what happened and I cried for days over someone else's child. And I'll never forget the time a baby passed while I was visiting mine, I heard the mother let out the most anguished cry I've ever heard then saw the nurse quickly carrying the baby out of the room. The mother just collapsed on the floor sobbing and I had to leave and go have a mental breakdown myself. Knowing that some mothers had to go through the worst pain imaginable just so some narcissistic little POS could get her kicks, well I can't let myself think about it. I can't handle it. I don't mean to ramble but neonatal nurses have to be so much stronger than I could ever fathom just to get through every day on the job. To think that some people enter that job so they can deliberately kill the most helpless patients... what I want to do to those people would land me in prison. Just unconscionable. May Lucy Letby rot in hell for all eternity.
I can't believe she's allowed to refuse to go to sentencing or victim impact statements. She should've had to of faced those parents. Absolutely mind blowing!
@@tamararutland-mills9530absolutely, she saw herself as God's gift to the world and described herself as 'a miracle child' because she had a difficult birth. She'd give medical advice! to senior nurses and she was basically delighted and felt very important, not just a nurse, she saw herself as part of a team of Drs, the deaths and collapses reminded her of how significant and hard her job can be, she really thought she was very knowledgeable and clever. She wanted to be a nurse because she could meet Drs, she'd be in 'higher society', I'm sure she fantasised about a romance with a good looking Dr. She's just a little turd that thought she's a diamond.
It just occurred to me... imagine that surviving triplet growing up with the knowledge that his two brothers were killed and he survived... what kind of cloud are the survivors of this going to grow up under?
The nurse managers response is so crazy to me, because in the US, us nurses are not risking our licenses for any other nurse. If it comes down to us standing behind someone who’s being accused of patient abuse or maliciousness, friend or not we’re not going to defend that. We let the powers that be investigate and come to whatever conclusion they find. I’m shocked how they simply gave her the benefit of the doubt because she was “nice”. They should all lose their licenses and be jailed for enabling her.
Who is going to think your co-worker is a murderer? They should absolutely not lose anything for trusting that every nurse working alongside them is there to save those babies. It’s the upper management that should lose things. Concerns got raised and it is not up to the nurses to make decisions like that. They all made comments about the strange rise in deaths and instead of blaming someone else they focused on doing their best for the next patient. People forget how vast culture is even in two countries that seem similar- it is crazy to me that you can think anyone is at fault here but Letby and the upper management who refused to do anything when concerns were raised.
This so much!!! No, you should never be in a situation where you have to think “is my co worker a murderer?!”…..but like this commenter said, there is nothing that would cause me to put my hard earned license(s) at risk, let alone the oath we take that should be taken seriously and just plain ole’ being a decent human!
It was so difficult listening to how these babies fought so hard to live and she would target them over and over again. I can’t imagine what the parents are going through. She has to be one of the most absolutely wretched murderers in the history of the world. I hope prison treats her terribly. As for her superiors & hospital mgmt who ignored the suspicions and defended her, I agree with Stephanie, they deserve extreme consequences including jail time. Anytime any medical professional is accused of something, that accusation should be fully investigated by an unbiased party regardless of how justified the allegations are perceived to be. It should simply be a formality.
it's horrific, the things she did. i can't believe anyone believes her when she says she's innocent. at the end of the day, she killed children, and some of the most helpless children in the world. it's disgusting, and i'm glad she's going to be locked away for the rest of her life. hopefully the families who lost their children can heal. that's a special kind of hell no one should have to endure.
I find that committing crimes against children of any age is one of the worst crimes. We don't deserve such evil to be in this world. This is one of the rare times that I'm pro death penalty.
@@StephanieHarlowe yeah can you imagine the anxiety of the parents of the children who lived? Like imagine taking them to the doctor for the smallest thing and having a pure anxiety attack because of one evil nurse. All the parents involved are super brave. Rip sweet babies
As a mother of premie twin boys (now strapping almost 17yr old giants), one who had to be intubated as he was born not breathing, my heart breaks for the parents who lost their children due to this evil woman and the hospital's negligence. Kudos to the doctors who kept pushing to get the police involved, who knows how many babies would have been lost if they hadn't stuck to their guns.
I’m in England. She’s got more than life, she’s got a full life term which means she’ll never get out. In England a life sentence usually means about 13 years. Idk why I don’t make the rules ❤
No, a life sentence in the UK is for the rest of that person's life! Release on licence is sometimes an option after a certain time but, a whole life order which is what Lucy was sentenced to, takes away that option. Nowhere in the UK has a life sentence of 13 years. Even if someone on a life sentence got released, it's usually called 'on licence' to be in the community and if you were in breach of the terms of the licence you'd be going right back to prison.
I think the triplets bother me the most. What a rare treasure having triplets must be. Imagining the three of them on holidays. Sharing all these milestones of growing up at the same time as a family. Sharing experiences with your siblings with zero age gap. How special. That singular surviving triplet is going to have a burden on his shoulders for life too. These ghosts are going to follow him even if his family doesn't intend to inflict that they will be there.
This makes me so SO angry because the feeling of something being "missing" or "wrong" due to the loss of a multiple is VERY real, and it legitimately will impact the survivor for the rest of their life. Even people who aren't 100% sure they're surviving multiples (bc their siblings may have died in utero before detection early on in the pregnancy) feel something is off, the phenomenon is called vanishing twin syndrome and those who are left are called womb twin survivors. I'm WTS (suspected triplet) and there are times when I can feel like there is an actual hole in my life that literally no other people can fill. It's like there's this constant sense of pain in the background that cannot be erased. Even in happier moments it's there. I've tried to fill it with so many other things and nothing is sufficient, so I've had to make my peace with just feeling like an incomplete puzzle cursed to be in a perpetual state of loneliness for the rest of my life. I've always wanted my own family to help ease some of that lack of wholeness, but I know now that even a partner and children, while they may make me happy in other ways, cannot fill that _specific_ gap in my life. Only two people can and they're gone. As long as I live on this earth, no matter where I go, what I do, or who I'm with, I will never be truly whole. That poor child is going to have to endure the same experience, but even worse because their siblings were murdered. To condemn someone to a life where they're always going to feel lonely and lost in some way, especially when this would've been completely avoidable, is so awful I cannot sum up my rage in words. I know a bit about what they're going to have to deal with growing up and the loneliness is at times very crippling, especially when your child brain doesn't fully understand why it's happening. Why the hell would you do that to a kid who deserved to grow up with their other triplets? Lucy not only killed those babies but she robbed that surviving sibling of ever living a normal life. I hope the family is able to get proper support for the remaining child because they will need it, but again, this shouldn't have happened in the first place. Lucy deserves no mercy
@aricaj.3006 Multiples have an incredible bond. So much so, that it's toxic in some cases. I had a long term relationship with an identical twin. The connection between he and his brother was amazing. They could never be too far apart (had to live on the same street). They were quite literally each other's other half.
Stephanie - I am a health care professional in the UK. The reasons for the lack of action in response to Dr Breary's concerns and also a lack of accountability for the managers in the fallout of this is because there is a widespread culture in NHS management of burying bad news to avoid negative press and headlines. It is truly awful that these people have not been held accountable for ignoring the concerns of expert doctors, but unfortunately shows the lack of respect for these professionals by managers who are often vastly less qualified and skilled. This is something which I'm not sure you have in the US due to your different health care system.
That is a really good point, I agree with you about the culture of cover ups in the NHS, and respect your opinion as someone who actually works within the system. However, I recently watched a docu-series about a Charles Cullen, a nurse in the US who murdered patients and how hospital management tried to cover it up to protect the hospital’s reputation- and funding. Many similarities to the Letby case- including the fact that the whistle blower was medical staff, a nurse, but had to fight to be believed.
@@daisyproud110 Yup, both health care systems have a level of corruption to them, & both are to some extent in the pocket of big pharma over their duty of care to their own patients. I'm in a fairly mixed friend group of both US and UK nationals and all of us have had recurring issues with our health care systems, I still stand by that the best level of care and attention i've ever received in health care was when I got sick of UK GPs mucking me about and booked a private consultation.
@@daisyproud110 It wasn't just the medical staff who suspected her, some of the nursing staff picked up on it too. There have been a couple of short interviews with them. I hope the nurses who worked with her are ok.
As a UK citizen & a Mum of three children (now adults) who were all preemies, this case has been particularly disturbing. I am so pleased she has been given a whole life term, she is evil beyond belief.
Yeah I can say with absolute certainty if she were in America she would have absolutely gotten the death penalty. Personally I'm anti-death penalty simply because if someone is acquitted later it's too late to bring them back. That being said though I feel like if anyone deserves that she does. But I'm thankful that the UK legal system gave her the absolute maximum penalty
In the UK and pregnant right now this one is really hard to get through i feel so angry i hope life really does mean life this time i hope all the rumours about her being attacked are true and she suffers for the rest of her miserable soulless evil life
She's the only true crime youtuber I watch anymore because of the way she tells the victim's stories. No one needs to be respectful of scum like Lucy. It's so hard not to engage sometimes with the people responding to comments... All I'm gonna say is, if you don't agree with true crime youtubers profiting off of tragic events, then why are you here watching the video giving them more ad revenue?
It doesn't work like that in the UK. The parents would have to go up against the NHS as opposed to the specific medical professionals. The entire NHS Trust would have to front any costs as a result of legal proceedings. The NHS is already skeletal. It's also a lot more difficult to sue anyone over here. We don't tend to jump straight in to trying to take any legal action, esp against an NHS Trust. Money isn't going to bring back the babies. Going through the trauma of legal action won't bring back the babies. It wouldn't help anyone. The justice comes from the sentencing of life without parole. That is an extremely rare occurrence here and not something to be scoffed at. That pos is gonna be tortured in prison. People do not take lightly to baby murderers/child abusers here.
@Undercover_Pineapple Exactly. I know you didn't say this. But Americans are so sue happy. It doesn't work like that here. Edit: Oops triggered the Mericans
They should take it to court for damages, my sister did for the misconduct for her son which resulted in brain damage and won. But undercover pinapple is right, it isn’t a private provider that has to pay out it’s the NHS which means that it puts an additional strain on our health service so it’s a catch 22.
Child E's mother's victim statement had a good burn for Lucy at the end, perfect to leave her dwelling on for the rest of her life - "I would like to thank Lucy for taking the stand and showing the court what she is really like once the "nice Lucy" mask slips. It was honestly the best thing she could have done to ensure our boys got the justice they deserve. We have been living a nightmare, but for me, it ends today. I refuse to wake up with my first thought be about my boys being harmed. Lucy no longer has control over our lives. She holds no power or relevance in anybody's life. She is nothing."
I’m a nurse. A mental health/psych nurse. Specialized in dementia and Alzheimer’s. I been doing this 15 years. I can tell you ever single name of every death I’ve experienced in my field and tell you about every single shift and all that happened. I replay every experience in my head all the time for things I could have done differently. All but 2 were elderly and died of natural causes/age related, and I still feel guilt. The other 2 were suicides… I even feel guilt over those. I don’t understand how you could live with yourself if you did this to someone on purpose… especially babies. Literally makes me nauseous.
Nurses like you make up for some of the sadness people feel in putting family members in a rest home. Suicide never has one cause, and certainly you were not at fault. My mother, who had Alzheimer's, passed away a few years ago, and a young nurse found her body on the floor of her bedroom -- she was her first death on the job. What she actually died of, I don't know. Her heart just stopped. When I came to pick up mum's things, the nurse was crying as she told me what happened -- I was comforting her, as much as she me. I want to send you, her, and all good nurses a big internet hug. We know you put the welfare of your patients first.
@@floraposteschild4184 people should never feel guilty about putting their loved ones in a home. It is a full time job to care for an elderly person suffering with dementia. We have to work unfortunately these days to afford the roof over our head too. Not to mention the mental and physical toll.
@@DubsTV93 Thank you for saying that. There was no way I could have cared for my mother, physically or mentally. She thought that I was in a sinister plot against her, and wouldn't take any meds from me. She threatened violence and barricaded herself in her condo. The home quickly stabilized her, and she seemed happy, or at least as happy as she ever had been. I think she understood she was in a hospital, and why she had to be there. Taking medical care from her daughter: not so much.
Yes. Fellow nurse here, same. Unexpected deaths are devastating. I now work in hospice, and am impacted and sad when deaths are expected too. To purposefully inflict injury, pain, or death on anyone, let alone the most fragile, vulnerable members of humanity entrusted to the nurses by their parents, is horrific and unthinkable.
I am a nurse and have worked in the NICU many times. This woman invokes a rage in me that I’ve never felt!!!! These innocent sweet babies deserved so much better. It absolutely breaks my heart for all the people involved ❤❤❤
My first born son was born 7 weeks early, with under developed lungs. The memory of watching him struggling to breathe still breaks my heart 13 years later. What Lucy did to those tiny, helpless babies and the parents who trusted her with their lives, is so unbelievably evil. I’m truly afraid of the world my children have to grow up in. Monsters exist.
Right there with you. My daughter was born weeks early and when the nurses tried to hand her to me, I told them to just take care of my baby-she can’t breathe! They were concerned about me bonding but I told them not to worry about out me because my baby was more important. I had been high risk and was confined to the hospital for weeks prior and a few days after her birth. She couldn’t even suck and was in her breathing tent a few days more. Her daddy held her and bottle fed her first since I was still hospitalized and she was in NICU. The nurses took wonderful care of her until she was able to leave at our insistence, with a nurse visiting to check on her and change bandages. I had been out for a while by then and we were there at the Unit daily to feed her. No bonding problems. We’d tried ten years for her. God bless the medical people who cared for her. Thirty- one years later I remember their names and have recognized two of them since. These wonderful ladies have retired and were giving Covid vaccines as volunteers. Great people. My heart goes out to those babies Letby killed and their parents. There’s a special hell for Letby and those who enabled her. The nurse manager should be on her knees begging forgiveness for the rest of her life. As much as I want prosecution for those who had ample opportunity to prevent more deaths but chose not to, I doubt it will come because they have closed ranks to protect each other. Disgusting.
@househenderson1982 I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. That must stain your life, your memory and your heart. I cannot fathom how you were able to get through that traumatic loss, seeing your baby in complete distress and not being able to fix it yourself when that's all you wish to do in that moment. I hope that despite the way your baby died, you have had a good life, I don't think I could use the word great because a part of you died, but as good of a life as possible. Thank you for sharing your story, it helps remind people watching these horrific crimes that good people still exist.
As a mother who has lost a child by someone else’s evil , Let’s hope the woman she shares a cell with shows her how sorry she really is in a very special way . 😡
I am truly sorry for your loss and I 💯 %%%%agree with you !! Losing a child is the worst pain a parent can ever Feel , She is an EVIL POS MONSTER , Anyone that would hurt a child Or defenseless animals deserve to be buried under the jail !! I believe that our loved ones are truly never gone And we will be with them again , I have to believe this. I know it doesn't Make the pain any less.
Believe it or not , some folks think she is a "scapegoat" "innocent" . She is definitely guilty in my opinion. Those who allowed her to continue on her killing spree should also face charges and not be allow to simply retire with a big fat pension
The comments under some of the court coverage channels have been wild. People thinking she can’t have done it because ‘what on earth would her motive have been.’ As if serial killers have a specific motive for murdering each of their victims. Like they must have been slighted by them in some way. Madness!
@@raileyyyyyyfor the hospital to not get in trouble, bc those people are saying they're putting on her to take the fall. But the hospital should get in trouble too.
As someone who lives nearby where this monster who committed these atrocious murders, I am so grateful to you Stephanie for covering this. This creature needs to have everything stripped of her and be known for nothing other than being a disgusting child killer across the world.
The statements of the families and the judge should be recorded and played on a continual loop in Lucy’s cell for the duration of her entire incarceration. There should never be a day in her life when she doesn’t have to listen to them.
All those people who refused - not just failed - to take action when it was brought to light that all the deaths had a common denominator (named Lucy Letby) should be charged with aiding and abetting for each murder and attempted murder.
Tmw… they didn't just refuse to do anything… they made the doctors who alerted that something was going on… write a formal APOLOGY LETTER to Lucy Letby for even suspecting her for doing something to those babies.
I’m glad the heat is also on Tony Chambers, the hospital CEO for telling the whistleblower doctors to apologize to Lucy Letby 26:48 🙈 I mean the embarrassment he must have now to be linked to her that way. Well deserved embarrassment.
What else did you wanted her to get? Actual life sentence with no parole option is crazy rare in UK, she’s literally one of the few women who have gotten it. And knowing the nature of her crimes her life in jail won’t be a picnic. Hell arguably death penalty could have actually been a mercy in this case (if it happened in US)
I dont think lucy should get a beatdown as that would give her attention and sympathy from some instead hopefully no one speaks to her or acknowledges her in any way as she craves attention of any kind let her have no one give her any kind of attention she will suffer more as she deserves to suffer she can become a ghost to others
My youngest son did a NICU stay. He was there for 10 days (which is nothing when you look at other NICU stays, but it felt like forever to me.) I literally stayed to make eye contact with every shift when I was there. I trusted the nurses with something even more precious to me than my own life. I was stuck 5 hours away from him for the first 48 hours because he was flown out and I had to stay since I'd had a C-section. I sobbed. I cried. But above all I had to trust that everyone taking care of him was nothing like Lucy. I called in the middle of the night multiple times just to make sure he was okay. The NICU nurses were so sweet and kind and never seemed to mind my crazy obsessive self. I can't imagine what these families went through with what Lucy did to them... It's absolutely awful.
Uk nurse specialist here, I can’t express the anger I have for this evil entity. The affect this has on patients and mothers-to-be is awful, the fear, the miss trust, I hate her to my core, I don’t think I have ever felt as strongly about any other perpetrator. How on earth could she do these things to the most vulnerable, fragile and beautiful little souls. I wish the victims families peace, love and light. RIP beautiful babies ❤
I was born 3 months premature at 29 weeks (1lb 3oz). To think she could harm such tiny, innocent, defenceless babies is just beyond me. Thankful she will be behind bars for the rest of her life. My heart is with the parents of the victims. ❤
Perfect timing! I live in the UK and this case has been heartbreaking. Still can't believe that Lucy didn't have to attend her sentencing though. I thought that was disgusting. Love your content Stephanie! Big love to you! 💕
@@Victoria-wz9ubi wonder if it’s for the best considering how obsessed she was with the families after murdering their babies. perhaps the less attention she gets from them the better, it seems like she feeds on it.
I have been following this nonstop and would lay my life down for each and every baby Lucy just wouldn't LET BE. Thank you for your coverage of this. I have fighting to have a child for a decade now and I am so heartbroken for these families and their loss. My prayers are with all affected by her evil, intentional actions.
My son was in the nicu since he was born 5 weeks early. You are dependent on the nursing staff to keep your child alive and it's a helpless feeling . Seeing the strong, smart 16 year old he has grown to be, breaks my heart for the parents of Lucy's victims. I pray all these babies rest in peace.
@@michellestreater3296I think they are in denial, most people defending her are not justifying what she did but saying she didn’t do them at all. The evidence is pretty conclusive but a lot of people think that unless it’s physical evidence or CCTV footage or “doesn’t count”
What’s so surprising about it? It’s not like there is a video of her strangling a baby or smt, it’s all circumstantial evidence. Of course the people who have known her for years and seen her to be nothing but sweet and kind are not gonna think she’s guilty of a horrific crimes right away. Especially bc there’s a lot of negligence in medical field sadly and hospital looking for a scapegoat is not unthinkable. I personally do think that she’s probably guilty (hopefully, otherwise it would be really tragic) but I also don’t have any personal feelings towards her
The doctors who waited 2 years to oi to the police...now its coming out the doctors in that place were incompetent...and one was on duty when most of the e so called 'murders' happened
im in nursing school right now working with children, particulary preemies and at risk neonates. im so horrified to hear how this hospital handled this entire situation. Dr steven needs a damn nobel peace prize!
You'll be pleased to know that the inquiry that is to be held regarding this case is to be made a public inquiry, meaning those involved are compelled by law to give evidence under oath. I really hope they're made to squirm under the spotlight.
Bet you the Karen who kept burying her head in the sand about "sweet wittle Lucy uwu" cries. She sounds like the type and when she does, I want the lawyer/barrister to tell her to knock it off because she didn't do anything to stop it and more babies would've died if things had been done HER way regarding Lucy. Throw every one of the in prison for one year for each dead child.
I just hope that the inquiry is a ridid and is investigated as thourghly as the Shipman investigation was. It will be, so harrowing for those poor families of the babies that died. But it might give them the closure they need. I just hope that it isn’t as flawed as the Nicola Bulley inquest was.
I'm a, somewhat, new subscriber. I love the channel and greatly appreciate all of the hard work you put into each episode. The main thing that brought me here and continues bringing me back is the length of each episode. To me, each episode being over an hour means a few things. It means you actually put real work into the research, the script/outline(whatever method you use to organize your thoughts), the presentation. It says to me that you're more focused on quality rather than just trying to push content. Sometimes I hear you mention comments complaining about the length of the episode. I hope you never change that. Also, same with the comments that attack your personality.... Don't change. Social media is full of people complaining. They are going to complain no matter what. They are not the people that really matter in "the real world". Don't pay them any attention(that's all they want). Please keep it up and thank you for your great work!
Exactly all of this. I watch her, and the Crime Weekly podcast she does, because of the length and derail. It saddens me when she and/or Derrick (Crime Weekly) apologise for the length because some people complain. Some people just have no attention span. They should stick to Tiktok where you have a case covered in a few minutes with no substance or effort.
As a twin and mom of a preemie, this case breaks my heart. Sharing the same name as her makes me sick. She is a monster. I hope the remainder of her days are as painful as the tragedy she has caused.
I'm sorry you even have to have that thought! You have a great name she shouldn't be granted a name anymore. Or it should be changed to something icky like her.
You’re the cool Lucy, not the killer Lucy. If anything, she should be ashamed of having such a wonderful name when she’s anything but a wonderful person.
I'm still seeing people who believe this is a miscarriage of justice, probably because they can't get past how "vanilla" she looks but what exactly does a serial killer look like? She's right where she belongs.
@@PaganPunk Just because you haven't seen them, doesn't mean they don't exist. I've seen numerous people who believe she's innocent in the comment sections of other channels covering this case.
@@PaganPunkcheck comments under some of the court coverage channels. Plenty of people white knighting for her saying a nurse wouldn’t do this, she has no motive, she doesn’t look the type, she’s been set up by the trust. It’s gross.
@@PaganPunkI had seen a lot of people say that they believed she was innocent and that she was framed for failings in the NHS. They were apparently using her as a ‘cover up’ but I haven’t seen anything like that in the last couple of weeks. That’s just me though 🤷🏼♀️
As a NICU mom, my daughter was blessed with the best nurses you could ask for…I’m so beyond thankful❤️…to know monsters like this roam free…I’m horrified for these innocent souls….I hope she lives a nice, long life behind those bars, so she can think about why she’s behind them every, single day. I hope the families touched by her find a way to heal one day🙏
This has been all over the news here in the UK and I've been waaaaaaaaaaiting for your update on it! I'm so glad she got actual life, it's rare to see that here
As a NICU mom, I cannot handle this story. I was blessed to have my son at 36 weeks and he had a rough start but was only there for 9 days. I saw so many parents though who had been there 100+. She is a monster. She is a demon. She deserves to rot. Thank you Stephanie for covering this. It is such a hard case to learn about, especially as a mother.
Im having a hard time watching as well. My baby was born at 32 weeks, healthy but just needed to grow. Regardless you’re paranoid and sad your baby can’t be home with you and out all your trust in the nurses and hospital. I just cannot fathom this.
@@alidemee8161 Absolutely, there is this guilt and longing that no one really understands. Our hospital made us leave during shift change and it would be the only time I would be away, but I would be so paranoid the whole time. I pray your little one is thriving!
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 I was lucky to have some of the most amazing women looking after my little guy. Our nurses were incredible, but it is so scary to think how this “normal” ass lady was just hurting and killing these babies in the most sick way and NO ONE DID ANYTHING! Praying your two Little’s are thriving! ❤️
Thank you, thank you, thank you Stephanie! Not only did you refer to this psycho in appropriate terms but you called out those self serving NHS members who did not take action to protect themselves and because it would get messy. The deaths were vicious and painful. She deserves the same. I applaud those doctors who stood their ground pursuing this monster and even had to apologise to her.
Welcome to UK! The NHS is starved of money, many of its services have been privatised, costing much more than it would if still in house. Ignoring the signs was about money and reputation and nothing else. 😢 So sorry for the families involved. It should never have happened!
Lucy Letby asked the parents who were holding their dying baby, if they wanted to put the baby in a moses basket destined for dead babies. Mum replied 'he is not dead yet'. I hope she rots in prison
From a U.K. fan. Thank you for covering a crime from here. Love your videos ❤ These cases are heartbreaking. We’ve have yet another nurse being investigated this week from another hospital poisoning 3 babies. We seem to breed these serial killer nurses and doctors 😢
I’m certain this type of thing is not just in the UK. Maybe other countries have a different set up to catch these people earlier. In the US there have been more abuses in nursing homes, where ill or unconscious patients are left alone for a long time. Our system is set up such that if hospitals have issues, insurers won’t pay. So there are plenty of checks and certifications, etc. Since we don’t have NHS, hospitals who lose approval won’t last. There are other problems here, like patient nutrients and drugs being stolen, but that has changed. Since I worked at a hospital 30-plus years ago. Technology has been a big help. Our potential serial killers have to go to other professions 🥺🤨
Literally have been waiting for this. Have watched your 3part series on Lucy Letby a lot, and so glad that Justice was served and she will never leave prison. Unfortunately here in the Uk we do not have a death penalty anymore, but if anyone deserves it, then it’s this evil monster. Thoughts and prayers are with all the families who have been affected by her vile actions xx
I'd be okay with Britain passing a law saying death penalty is legal for one person and one person only: Lucy Letby. But I also like the idea of her suffering in prison, even though it could never compare to the pain of having your newborn murdered in such a horrific way.
Thanks to you Stephanie for covering these stories. They are hard, especially when you're a parent yourself and can feel the pain. Myself, as a parent, feel it through the narration
At first i thought she could be a scapegoat. There was a media ban on this case so i couldnt get my head around how they had enough evidence to convict as the babies were such high risk. The thought of a nurse hurting babies just goes against everything we know about the nursing profession. After hearing the evidence this monster is where she belongs. My heart is broken for the babies and their families. The uk government has now passed a law that convicts will be made to appear in court for sentencing. She should be made to appear and hear the victim impact statements face to face. All those who did nothing in order to not rock the boat should face criminal charges. Thankyou stephanie for covering this again. ❤
This series came out right before I had my son, who actually also ended up being premature and was in the NICU for two weeks. To say I was on my guard those two weeks was an understatement, but luckily we had the best nurses in our NICU who loved nothing but to help our son and watch him excel in there! Thank you for your in depth videos shedding light on true monsters in our world and the warning signs they have ❤
I also had my son right after the original series came out. I couldn't bring myself to watch it at the time. I was already scared and emotional enough. I knew I couldn't handle it.
I waited PATIENTLY for this video. Only Stephanie can give an IN-DEPTH detailed video. This is such a sad series of events. I wanna know the timeline of the reports of what was happening and if the heads will be charged as well.
I binged all of your videos on this case today, fantastic job as always Stephanie. It really blows my mind how I (& I'm sure plenty others) can be chastised like a child & held accountable for stupid mistakes in my normal non-life or death boring job but this demon who is CLEARLY questionable doesn't have a single ounce of consequence or accountability until how many BABIES DIED?! Absolutely mind-blowing. This is by far I would say the WORST case I have ever heard & thank you once again for covering it & not holding back. Keep up the great work!
My twins were micro premies, in the nicu over 3 mo. Just being in the nicu is traumatizing enough. My heart breaks for these parents. The bond you make with your primary nicu nurses can last a lifetime. What a monster.
As a nurse I can tell you getting a doctor to apologize to a nurse would be incredible and would be the talk of the town. They do sound like good health care processionals and thank goodness they were persistent and never gave up. At least someone was looking out for those babies❤ Edit: the judges words brought me to tears😢 i bet he had a long night writing this out. Poor guy has to read this out after already being punished with hearing the whole timeline in great detail.
This is so horrendous! The people who turned their heads and allowed this to continue definitely need to be held accountable. Thank you Stephanie for always speaking for the victims and their families. I’m so thankful you aren’t afraid to speak your mind and not worry about hurting the feelings of people who obviously have no moral code.
My senior charge nurse came into theatre for positioning my patient prone. Turns out pressure sores near the hips had increased and SCN just wanted to be sure we were doing our job properly (turns out there was an issue with table padding that was easily fixed). My boss took action for small blisters and they ignored babies suddenly dying. I'm just beyond stunned at their behaviour
I'm glad youve covered her sentencing Stephanie ❤ each and every one of these babies had already fought against the odds only to be taken out by the one person who was meant to take care of them. It's absolutely heartbreaking and my heart goes to the families xx
I’m glad she got a full life term and I hope she suffers daily for the rest of her life, but the fact that she was allowed to be absent from her sentencing is a miscarriage of justice in itself. I feel so angry that she wasn’t forced to sit there and listen to the families’ statements. Vile woman, it’s hard to listen to the depth of her evil without bursting into tears. May those babies’ souls find peace.
am also a former care worker and would never dream of harming a vulnerable child or person. We have a history of premature births in our family. Grateful to the deccent nurses out there who saved myself and my other family members
Dude, you are just so good at this. I’ve listened/watched four podcasts/RUclips episodes and you are, FAR AND AWAY, better. The way you tell a story is just top tier. You’re in depth research is unmatched and I learned WAY more about who Lucy was and how absolutely manipulative she was of her trusted colleagues. I worked in healthcare for almost two decades and I will say the bond between nurses is strong. I think far more people must be held accountable. I cannot believe what she was able to get away with. It’s emotional. Those poor families. I can’t even. I can’t. I just can’t. Bravo, Stephanie! Another great episode. 👏👏
I was a nurse for 24 years, I was a float so I went where I was needed for the night. I worked ICU, CCU, Oncology and extremely stressful floor. If I got sent to pets or the nursery I counted myself lucky to have a non stressful night of holding babies , feeding them and tal,talking, with young children. People I could pick up a hold without straining something.
I’m so mad that she wasn’t there for sentencing, to hear the impact statements. Why would that be optional?!? It’s arguably the most important part of her consequences - clearly laying out exactly what she did and why she is being punished. Of course she didn’t WANT to be there. Why wasn’t her attendance mandatory?
I'm glad they've now changed the law so that people now have to be there but it's crazy to me it wasn't already the law....I didn't even know that was the case and I live in the UK
@@Willow_moon364they haven't changed the law yet. They only announced the intention to change the law. We don't know if it will pass parliamentary scrutiny of both houses
It's terrible the "Business" of hospital takes precedent over the sick individuals who entrust their lives and care to them. The upper chain of hospital management should be held accountable. They had knowledge this was happening. They had credible witnesses this was happening and by whom, yet they remained complacent and went so far as to hide it. Just as guilty as Lucy.
She's already been attacked and was admitted to hospital , it will happen again when she gets returned unless she gets put in solitary for 'her protection'. Im a health care worker and can't wrap my head around why someone could do this to the most vulnerable patients. May they all rest in peace and sending love to the parents , this should never have happened .
My son spend 42 days in the NICU; he was born at 29 weeks. I’m so thankful for all his nurses. I would go everyday and just sit by his bed starting at him. I would take the best naps on the chair knowing we were so close to each other.
This is such a horrific tragedy! And the way the hospital administrators handled this was absolutely disgusting! My heart breaks for the families of those precious babies😢
Just heard on the news (I live in England) that a law has been passed to make sure that defendants have to be there at their sentencing and the police etc can use reasonable force to make sure it happens 👍YES!
This is a terrible plan - as much as I agree in theory that defendants should face up to their crimes there is no way this can work with a defendant who is unwilling. Some could turn violent and the police and/or security would be at risk of being assaulted and then there is the strong likelihood of them disrupting the courtroom, laughing at the victims, shouting awful things or just generally making the whole thing about them instead of the victims. Plus let's not forget that with defendants like Letby there is evidence to suggest a level of enjoyment of causing suffering so if she was forced to sit through the parents' statements she might view it as her final opportunity to revel in her "achievements"
My daughter was hospitalized with severe double sided pneumonia and we had a very close eye on her, one of us was by her side at every single minute. I once stopped a nurse from putting air bubbles into her iv line. The nurse said that only a little bit wouldn’t be harmful but I made her clear the whole thing before putting any medication into it. I didn’t want to risk it at all, she was very young. Maybe I was too careful but that’s just me. (In Sweden 🇸🇪) she wasn’t a premature baby or anything.
Thank you Stephanie. I first heard of this case watching your podcast. Your deep dive showed how much you care about these babies and there families . This trial seemed to take forever. Thanks for sticking with it until justice was served
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I’m a nurse. Go ahead and attack the pos Lucy is but don’t attack the other nurses. Intensive care nurses are incredibly tight knit group. A serial nurse is extremely rare and I am certain those other nurses will never forgive themselves for what happened.
apparently being an incredibly tight knit group did not serve anyone well in this situation, so yes, I am going to attack anyone who had a hand in allowing these babies to be murdered on their watch simply because they had too much loyalty or were too afraid of offending someone to do the right thing. I am going to call out when people do bad or harmful things, no matter who that person is, what uniform they wear, or how bad they feel about it.
@@ActuallyDoubleGuitars There was likely a lot of denial, but denial takes noticing a thing in the first place.
The Karen that refused to take her off schedule absolutely should be attacked! Never did Stephanie attack ALL nurses. Hit dogs holler. I worked in a facility for YEARS where RNs covered for an LPN who was stealing patients narcotics! Nurses can be crap people too, OBVIOUSLY!
It is very weird to me that you're sitting here feeling personally attacked by the telling of this horrific story. Separate yourself it is NOT about you this is about the people directly responsible for the deaths of those babies which absolutely includes those nurses and staff who did not heed the warnings they were given. over and OVER AGAIN. I'm appalled that you are centering yourself.
Well clearly that hospital was hiring all of the shitty nurses! How did no one catch on to her sooner? Thank god for the doctors who caught on. Stephanie is right, clearly those nurses were TOO close knit since it made them look past horrifying allegations
I agree 100% agree with you Stephanie. As a retired UK nurse, I absolutely believe that EVERY person in a management position who ignored the concerns of the doctors, AND the obvious evidence before their eyes, should be struck off or banned from ever working in healthcare again. I was myself involved in an incident with a terrible nurse, whilst not wilfully harming anyone, her level of knowledge and practice were so dangerous that she would’ve ended up killing someone. I jumped up and down and raised the roof…I wasn’t supported by management as I took the case all the way to the professional body, gave evidence and had her struck off the register. Management hung me out to dry…it’s not encouraged to speak out in the NHS, despite what they tell you! SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, is my motto. Every patient deserves the highest level of care…unless Lucy Letby needs medical treatment…she can ‘flick’ off
Kudos to you for raising the alarm on that nurse!
Hospitals are a business first and foremost. It is disheartening that they run like one since it allows shit like this to happen.
You are a hero. ❤❤❤
Well done to you!! you truly have saved so many lives by doing this so hats off to you!! it's disgusting that they hung you out to dry too! I've heard of pole who have sued hospitals in the uk that have been banned from the hospital that hey sued aswell. It's disgusting how they will do that sort of thing!
@@Younce_Daviesnot in the uk
Criminologist Dr. David Wilson said something that made me even more chilled by this case, if that's even possible, he said........she was not a nurse who killed, she was a killer who became a nurse so she pray on the most vulnerable members of society.
That's terrifying! But it makes sense.
It's chilling. It really is but I think it's probably right.
She went after truly the most vulnerable in our society.
She placed herself in a position where she could kill. She was always sick. But she still was a nurse and nurses can kill.
Great point!! A little easier for our brains to accept that statement oddly enough.
I'm a nurse; you absolutely have the responsibility to report ANYTHING suspect. I had the uncomfortable situation where a co-worker who was also a good friend was observed by me writing observations in his patients charts without physically doing the observations (ie - lying & endangering patients by negligence); although he was a good friend- i had to take it immediately to management- it felt awful, but it was my professional responsibility to ensure patient safety. Can't believe people were looking the other way in this case. Truly disgusting.
This is what the world needs. Lovely and v important to get on with your co-workers, bit patient safety is no.1. Thanks for work. Nurses are usually the very best of ppl.
That's the thing, even the consultants reported her, not a lot happened. But the kind of response tend to get from trust management teams is pretty much similar to those at the Countess of Chester hospital, in my experience. They still seem to be throwing everyone ese under the bus even now.
You did the right thing.
You did everyone a great service, thank you for having the proper dignity.
The definition of integrity is doing the right thing whether the right thing is done in front of people or not. Thank you for having the integrity to do the right thing. Integrity is in short supply in these times.
I can’t imagine carrying a baby in your belly for months, giving birth, being so excited for the baby to come home, and this POS murders your child for fun. Then she stalks you because she loves seeing parents struggle with the death of their child.
More people need to be held accountable for this. They knew something was wrong & didn’t care.
It was the Manager not the other staff that directly worked with her....They were made to apologise to her by that manager when they brought this up!!
Ask the Mother's of America having there Children gunned down in Schools
Can you imagine preparing for three babies and just having one to take home? This whole thing made my blood boil. But that in particular made cry for the parents and that one lil baby.
It happened to my mom during her first pregnancy. She carried her baby boy for 8 months only to lose him due to a negligent monster of a “nurse”.
not that I know anything about being mother and will probably never be but it was so sad when she killed kids that were so hard to conceive in the first place and as a person with fertility issues, cannot imagine those mothers pains.
I’m glad *Alison Kelly, Karen Rees, and Ian Harvey* are being highlighted for their negligence too. Grateful for the judge that sentenced Lucy, but I do hope upper management everywhere uses this case to take claims more seriously. Great analysis Steph! 🙌🏻
Just wondering if she was not in relationship with the higher-ups?
I'm thankful they're being named!
@elizethompson8627 possibly? She did charity work and had an article about her prior to her murder sprees. Additionally she was very well liked by her colleagues, which i can assume includes management. When word got out that the doctors named her to be looked into, she went straight to senior management - made up that she was being bullied by the group doctors requesting for an investigation- resulting to them having to apologise to her! So it wouldn't surprise me if she had ties to senior management.
Loving your show from Brasil!!♡
You are the best! People seem to have radiation poisoning in their brains!
Lucy killed 2 identical triplets, leaving only one surviving baby. Identical triplets are a one in 200 million occurrence. How incredibly sad and awful for the parents and sole surviving triplet.
Just so there’s no confusion: this woman is absolutely a serial killer. She’s not “like” a serial killer, she’s a thoroughbred hardened to the core pre meditated serial killer.
Praying on little babies. Easy pray. Sick.
You misunderstood. "Like" was said in relation to her keeping trophies like a serial killer does. There's no doubt Lucy Letby IS a serial killer!!
@@Tattedlady60 no doubt!
Hell I'd call her worse than most serial killers. Killing poor, innocent little babies in cold blood has to be one of the most heinous acts anyone can do.
Respect to the Medical professionals who wouldn’t stop until she was no longer able to *Do Harm* to those poor innocent babies.💔I hope the families sue the hospital & every single hospital official who allowed Lucy continued access to those innocent babies.⚖️
I cried at that dads statement that turned to drinking and wanted to take his own life. This case is awful and she’s right where she belongs.
Hopefully she gets some prison justice. Even prisoners can’t stand a child killer.
Have been waiting for this episode, Stephanie's sarcasm/irony is almost at British levels. When the judge mentions the physical torture of these little babies, you can't help but cry...... Feel a mixture of deep sorrow, and intense rage that those doctors were ignored !!!
I have never been so flattered ☺️
We come here for the sass delivery 😂
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Oh yes we are very good at sarcasm and Stephanie is definitely up there with the best. I am very sarcastic and my daughter now 9 is learning it really well. In the case of Shipman and Allitt it was other medical staff on the ball so why oh why were these doctors not listened to as soon as they voiced concerns - have we not learned? Not only ignored but forced to apologise!!
Ever since the verdict, I have been waiting for Stephanie's follow up. My dad was undecided until he listened to the first 15 mins of this video and he then left the room. How could anyone do this to babies!
As someone who works in a Labor and Delivery unit, on the VERY RARE occasions where a baby is “born sleeping” or we lose a baby shortly after birth, the nurses always need time off. There’s so much trust and care that goes into neonatal care. To betray that trust is unthinkable. My heart goes out to the families of Lucy’s victims. And I hope that whenever she closes her eyes, Lucy sees the faces of the children whose lives she snatched away. I think Lucy is a narcissist who always got what she wanted and she wanted her peers to dote on her and fawn over her like her parents did. When she felt like she was losing the attention of the married doctor, she got desperate and didn’t care who she hurt to reel him back in. She wanted to create a bond through an emotionally draining workplace.
Thanks for your comment, and the others about who she truly was, a narcissistic killer. It’s all I needed to know further. I can’t bear to watch this yet honestly.
Really? I lost twins at 23weeks & everyone I encountered at the hospital was absolutely horrible about it =| I obviously know that’s not normal but yeah
But your absolutely right she wanted attention smh
@@WhatthehellokittyxI’m very sorry for your loss.
From what I’ve seen and what others report, many doctors and especially nurses lose the their sensitivity to patients’ pain. Even if they don’t feel it, they should learn to fake 😊some compassion!
I saw a picture years ago of some L&D nurses crying in the hallway after a patient had a miscarriage. I used to want to be a nurse but I wouldn't be able to deal with any patients dying, especially children, and that stopped me. I'm simply not strong enough. My own daughter was born 13 weeks premature and every day she spent in the NICU was hell. I was in a constant state of anxiety for 2 months, always expecting her to suddenly crash or pass away at any moment. This was 20 years ago and I still vividly remember the sounds and even smells of the NICU like it was yesterday. To this day I can't smell Hibiclens without having flashbacks. It was so emotionally overwhelming being in there and seeing all those tiny babies just struggling to live. I had to hold back tears during every visit, just knowing that some of those babies who had become little familiar faces might not make it or might have lifelong complications and there was nothing I could do about it. It's the most helpless feeling in the world. Every noise from the machines had my heart racing, I have never been that stressed out before or since having a NICU baby. My girl was strong and just needed to grow, but many of the others were not doing so well. There was one very tiny preemie who was there for a few days but gone the next time I came. I knew what happened and I cried for days over someone else's child. And I'll never forget the time a baby passed while I was visiting mine, I heard the mother let out the most anguished cry I've ever heard then saw the nurse quickly carrying the baby out of the room. The mother just collapsed on the floor sobbing and I had to leave and go have a mental breakdown myself. Knowing that some mothers had to go through the worst pain imaginable just so some narcissistic little POS could get her kicks, well I can't let myself think about it. I can't handle it.
I don't mean to ramble but neonatal nurses have to be so much stronger than I could ever fathom just to get through every day on the job. To think that some people enter that job so they can deliberately kill the most helpless patients... what I want to do to those people would land me in prison. Just unconscionable. May Lucy Letby rot in hell for all eternity.
I can't believe she's allowed to refuse to go to sentencing or victim impact statements. She should've had to of faced those parents. Absolutely mind blowing!
I agree!! They should be able to drag her ass in the court room & make her sit there!
It's truly sickening that the worst of the scum on this planet have more protection than the innocent people they hurt
Effing ridiculous
Because of what happened at Lucy’s sentencing, they are looking to change the rules, so the defendant has to be present. Xx
Be present or have the verdict fed through to them in the court cells.
I think being a baby serial killer is as evil as you can be. Lucy is as scary or scarier than any of the killers you’ve talked about.
I have to agree,she looks normal and obviously gets a thrill of killing.These are precious innocent babies I just cant fathom.She is evil
She's an evil entity of depraved darkness in the form of a woman
It appears she thought she was the smartest person in the room, any room and even in the courtroom.
@@tamararutland-mills9530absolutely, she saw herself as God's gift to the world and described herself as 'a miracle child' because she had a difficult birth. She'd give medical advice! to senior nurses and she was basically delighted and felt very important, not just a nurse, she saw herself as part of a team of Drs, the deaths and collapses reminded her of how significant and hard her job can be, she really thought she was very knowledgeable and clever. She wanted to be a nurse because she could meet Drs, she'd be in 'higher society', I'm sure she fantasised about a romance with a good looking Dr. She's just a little turd that thought she's a diamond.
Like Amelia Dyer. She goes against all human nature.very rare breed
It just occurred to me... imagine that surviving triplet growing up with the knowledge that his two brothers were killed and he survived... what kind of cloud are the survivors of this going to grow up under?
That's what I think about, it's changed that babies whole life by not having their siblings, same with any older siblings of the other victims, so sad
How someone ( a prisoner) can choose not to be present at their sentencing hearing is beyond me!! That is so sad.
The law has now been changed and prisoners are now forced to go and hear their sentencing and victim impact statements.
I know right. As if they have somewhere better to be.
@@poppyfitzsimmons1033thank god
@@poppyfitzsimmons1033in the uk?
@@DawnieG yes, so that law should include England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
“There was a deep malevolence bordering on sadism in your actions”…. Well said, your honor, well said…
I say NOT WELL SAID! Bordering on sadism?? Excuse me??!? IT WAS SADISM!!! Christ ....hellloooo?!?
The nurse managers response is so crazy to me, because in the US, us nurses are not risking our licenses for any other nurse. If it comes down to us standing behind someone who’s being accused of patient abuse or maliciousness, friend or not we’re not going to defend that. We let the powers that be investigate and come to whatever conclusion they find. I’m shocked how they simply gave her the benefit of the doubt because she was “nice”. They should all lose their licenses and be jailed for enabling her.
I’m so shocked too!! 😮😮
Who is going to think your co-worker is a murderer? They should absolutely not lose anything for trusting that every nurse working alongside them is there to save those babies. It’s the upper management that should lose things. Concerns got raised and it is not up to the nurses to make decisions like that. They all made comments about the strange rise in deaths and instead of blaming someone else they focused on doing their best for the next patient. People forget how vast culture is even in two countries that seem similar- it is crazy to me that you can think anyone is at fault here but Letby and the upper management who refused to do anything when concerns were raised.
I’m a nurse for 43 years and agree 100 per cent with you
Nurses in the UK aren't either just those idiots😂
This so much!!! No, you should never be in a situation where you have to think “is my co worker a murderer?!”…..but like this commenter said, there is nothing that would cause me to put my hard earned license(s) at risk, let alone the oath we take that should be taken seriously and just plain ole’ being a decent human!
"How many babies needed to die before you learned a lesson?" THIS!!! ❤
My heart breaks for every family and baby who's life she tore apart forever
It was so difficult listening to how these babies fought so hard to live and she would target them over and over again. I can’t imagine what the parents are going through. She has to be one of the most absolutely wretched murderers in the history of the world. I hope prison treats her terribly.
As for her superiors & hospital mgmt who ignored the suspicions and defended her, I agree with Stephanie, they deserve extreme consequences including jail time. Anytime any medical professional is accused of something, that accusation should be fully investigated by an unbiased party regardless of how justified the allegations are perceived to be. It should simply be a formality.
it's horrific, the things she did. i can't believe anyone believes her when she says she's innocent. at the end of the day, she killed children, and some of the most helpless children in the world. it's disgusting, and i'm glad she's going to be locked away for the rest of her life. hopefully the families who lost their children can heal. that's a special kind of hell no one should have to endure.
I find that committing crimes against children of any age is one of the worst crimes. We don't deserve such evil to be in this world. This is one of the rare times that I'm pro death penalty.
it is THE worst crime, and its unforgivable
@@StephanieHarlowe yeah can you imagine the anxiety of the parents of the children who lived? Like imagine taking them to the doctor for the smallest thing and having a pure anxiety attack because of one evil nurse. All the parents involved are super brave. Rip sweet babies
My feelings exactly!
Without a doubt, people who prey on children should forfeit their lives.
I feel like death would be too easy for her honestly
As a mother of premie twin boys (now strapping almost 17yr old giants), one who had to be intubated as he was born not breathing, my heart breaks for the parents who lost their children due to this evil woman and the hospital's negligence. Kudos to the doctors who kept pushing to get the police involved, who knows how many babies would have been lost if they hadn't stuck to their guns.
I’m in England. She’s got more than life, she’s got a full life term which means she’ll never get out. In England a life sentence usually means about 13 years. Idk why I don’t make the rules ❤
Life is 25 years!!
@@PaganPunkshe got a whole life order she won’t be out in 25 years
No, a life sentence in the UK is for the rest of that person's life! Release on licence is sometimes an option after a certain time but, a whole life order which is what Lucy was sentenced to, takes away that option.
Nowhere in the UK has a life sentence of 13 years. Even if someone on a life sentence got released, it's usually called 'on licence' to be in the community and if you were in breach of the terms of the licence you'd be going right back to prison.
@@PaganPunkwhole life order means never being released. They’re rare in the UK though.
Yes thankfully they gave her the MAX, I’m so glad! Psycho
I think the triplets bother me the most.
What a rare treasure having triplets must be. Imagining the three of them on holidays. Sharing all these milestones of growing up at the same time as a family. Sharing experiences with your siblings with zero age gap.
How special.
That singular surviving triplet is going to have a burden on his shoulders for life too. These ghosts are going to follow him even if his family doesn't intend to inflict that they will be there.
my heart actually fell to the floor when i heard about the triplets. such a gift and she stole it so viciously
This makes me so SO angry because the feeling of something being "missing" or "wrong" due to the loss of a multiple is VERY real, and it legitimately will impact the survivor for the rest of their life. Even people who aren't 100% sure they're surviving multiples (bc their siblings may have died in utero before detection early on in the pregnancy) feel something is off, the phenomenon is called vanishing twin syndrome and those who are left are called womb twin survivors. I'm WTS (suspected triplet) and there are times when I can feel like there is an actual hole in my life that literally no other people can fill. It's like there's this constant sense of pain in the background that cannot be erased. Even in happier moments it's there. I've tried to fill it with so many other things and nothing is sufficient, so I've had to make my peace with just feeling like an incomplete puzzle cursed to be in a perpetual state of loneliness for the rest of my life. I've always wanted my own family to help ease some of that lack of wholeness, but I know now that even a partner and children, while they may make me happy in other ways, cannot fill that _specific_ gap in my life. Only two people can and they're gone. As long as I live on this earth, no matter where I go, what I do, or who I'm with, I will never be truly whole.
That poor child is going to have to endure the same experience, but even worse because their siblings were murdered. To condemn someone to a life where they're always going to feel lonely and lost in some way, especially when this would've been completely avoidable, is so awful I cannot sum up my rage in words. I know a bit about what they're going to have to deal with growing up and the loneliness is at times very crippling, especially when your child brain doesn't fully understand why it's happening. Why the hell would you do that to a kid who deserved to grow up with their other triplets? Lucy not only killed those babies but she robbed that surviving sibling of ever living a normal life. I hope the family is able to get proper support for the remaining child because they will need it, but again, this shouldn't have happened in the first place. Lucy deserves no mercy
@aricaj.3006 Multiples have an incredible bond. So much so, that it's toxic in some cases. I had a long term relationship with an identical twin. The connection between he and his brother was amazing. They could never be too far apart (had to live on the same street). They were quite literally each other's other half.
Stephanie - I am a health care professional in the UK. The reasons for the lack of action in response to Dr Breary's concerns and also a lack of accountability for the managers in the fallout of this is because there is a widespread culture in NHS management of burying bad news to avoid negative press and headlines. It is truly awful that these people have not been held accountable for ignoring the concerns of expert doctors, but unfortunately shows the lack of respect for these professionals by managers who are often vastly less qualified and skilled. This is something which I'm not sure you have in the US due to your different health care system.
That is a really good point, I agree with you about the culture of cover ups in the NHS, and respect your opinion as someone who actually works within the system. However, I recently watched a docu-series about a Charles Cullen, a nurse in the US who murdered patients and how hospital management tried to cover it up to protect the hospital’s reputation- and funding. Many similarities to the Letby case- including the fact that the whistle blower was medical staff, a nurse, but had to fight to be believed.
@@daisyproud110 Yup, both health care systems have a level of corruption to them, & both are to some extent in the pocket of big pharma over their duty of care to their own patients.
I'm in a fairly mixed friend group of both US and UK nationals and all of us have had recurring issues with our health care systems, I still stand by that the best level of care and attention i've ever received in health care was when I got sick of UK GPs mucking me about and booked a private consultation.
The people in charge and managing should always be some of the most experienced. It's awful how in many industries they're clueless instead.
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It wasn't just the medical staff who suspected her, some of the nursing staff picked up on it too. There have been a couple of short interviews with them. I hope the nurses who worked with her are ok.
As a UK citizen & a Mum of three children (now adults) who were all preemies, this case has been particularly disturbing.
I am so pleased she has been given a whole life term, she is evil beyond belief.
Have you forgotten Beverly Allit???? (UK citizen, mum to 4 grown children)
@@PaganPunk no I remember her too..another horrific case..
Most female killers of children are mothers
Yeah I can say with absolute certainty if she were in America she would have absolutely gotten the death penalty. Personally I'm anti-death penalty simply because if someone is acquitted later it's too late to bring them back. That being said though I feel like if anyone deserves that she does. But I'm thankful that the UK legal system gave her the absolute maximum penalty
In the UK and pregnant right now this one is really hard to get through i feel so angry i hope life really does mean life this time i hope all the rumours about her being attacked are true and she suffers for the rest of her miserable soulless evil life
I love blunt Stephanie standing up for the voiceless. Speak it, sister.
How is she standing up for anything? She's just making money over a tragedy.
She's the only true crime youtuber I watch anymore because of the way she tells the victim's stories. No one needs to be respectful of scum like Lucy.
It's so hard not to engage sometimes with the people responding to comments...
All I'm gonna say is, if you don't agree with true crime youtubers profiting off of tragic events, then why are you here watching the video giving them more ad revenue?
Thank you so much for ALLLLLL the revulsion you show for the people involved in this. UK fan here and I’m so thankful you covered this case.
THE WAY I JUST SCREAMED “YES! JUSTICE!!!” ❤
My laugh was also notable 😅
Mine as well
ME TOO
The scream heard around the world!!!!!!!
@cindyhesson9213 The UK was Celebrating 10 days ago when she was put away!!!
Can’t the parents go after the hospital officials for wrongful death in civil count? TAKE THEM FOR ALL THEY HAVE!
I think they can and they should
It doesn't work like that in the UK. The parents would have to go up against the NHS as opposed to the specific medical professionals. The entire NHS Trust would have to front any costs as a result of legal proceedings. The NHS is already skeletal.
It's also a lot more difficult to sue anyone over here. We don't tend to jump straight in to trying to take any legal action, esp against an NHS Trust.
Money isn't going to bring back the babies. Going through the trauma of legal action won't bring back the babies. It wouldn't help anyone. The justice comes from the sentencing of life without parole. That is an extremely rare occurrence here and not something to be scoffed at. That pos is gonna be tortured in prison. People do not take lightly to baby murderers/child abusers here.
They better!
@Undercover_Pineapple Exactly. I know you didn't say this. But Americans are so sue happy. It doesn't work like that here.
Edit: Oops triggered the Mericans
They should take it to court for damages, my sister did for the misconduct for her son which resulted in brain damage and won. But undercover pinapple is right, it isn’t a private provider that has to pay out it’s the NHS which means that it puts an additional strain on our health service so it’s a catch 22.
Child E's mother's victim statement had a good burn for Lucy at the end, perfect to leave her dwelling on for the rest of her life -
"I would like to thank Lucy for taking the stand and showing the court what she is really like once the "nice Lucy" mask slips. It was honestly the best thing she could have done to ensure our boys got the justice they deserve.
We have been living a nightmare, but for me, it ends today. I refuse to wake up with my first thought be about my boys being harmed. Lucy no longer has control over our lives. She holds no power or relevance in anybody's life. She is nothing."
Wait, what happened?!
@@KatieLHall-fy1hw
Not sure sure if this is the latest case. Sorry
Yes, "she is nothing" probably hurt her so much. She looooved that attention.
I’m a nurse. A mental health/psych nurse. Specialized in dementia and Alzheimer’s. I been doing this 15 years. I can tell you ever single name of every death I’ve experienced in my field and tell you about every single shift and all that happened. I replay every experience in my head all the time for things I could have done differently. All but 2 were elderly and died of natural causes/age related, and I still feel guilt. The other 2 were suicides… I even feel guilt over those. I don’t understand how you could live with yourself if you did this to someone on purpose… especially babies. Literally makes me nauseous.
Nurses like you make up for some of the sadness people feel in putting family members in a rest home. Suicide never has one cause, and certainly you were not at fault. My mother, who had Alzheimer's, passed away a few years ago, and a young nurse found her body on the floor of her bedroom -- she was her first death on the job. What she actually died of, I don't know. Her heart just stopped. When I came to pick up mum's things, the nurse was crying as she told me what happened -- I was comforting her, as much as she me. I want to send you, her, and all good nurses a big internet hug. We know you put the welfare of your patients first.
@@floraposteschild4184 people should never feel guilty about putting their loved ones in a home. It is a full time job to care for an elderly person suffering with dementia. We have to work unfortunately these days to afford the roof over our head too. Not to mention the mental and physical toll.
@@DubsTV93 Thank you for saying that. There was no way I could have cared for my mother, physically or mentally. She thought that I was in a sinister plot against her, and wouldn't take any meds from me. She threatened violence and barricaded herself in her condo. The home quickly stabilized her, and she seemed happy, or at least as happy as she ever had been. I think she understood she was in a hospital, and why she had to be there. Taking medical care from her daughter: not so much.
Yes. Fellow nurse here, same. Unexpected deaths are devastating. I now work in hospice, and am impacted and sad when deaths are expected too. To purposefully inflict injury, pain, or death on anyone, let alone the most fragile, vulnerable members of humanity entrusted to the nurses by their parents, is horrific and unthinkable.
I am a nurse and have worked in the NICU many times. This woman invokes a rage in me that I’ve never felt!!!! These innocent sweet babies deserved so much better. It absolutely breaks my heart for all the people involved ❤❤❤
And can you imagine having your bosses protect HER, over the rest of the nurses & doctors you work with? I would be furious & probably protesting!
I have a relative who has dedicated her life to NICU babies and their families. It's a very special bond, thank you for your devotion!
My first born son was born 7 weeks early, with under developed lungs. The memory of watching him struggling to breathe still breaks my heart 13 years later.
What Lucy did to those tiny, helpless babies and the parents who trusted her with their lives, is so unbelievably evil.
I’m truly afraid of the world my children have to grow up in. Monsters exist.
Right there with you. My daughter was born weeks early and when the nurses tried to hand her to me, I told them to just take care of my baby-she can’t breathe! They were concerned about me bonding but I told them not to worry about out me because my baby was more important. I had been high risk and was confined to the hospital for weeks prior and a few days after her birth. She couldn’t even suck and was in her breathing tent a few days more. Her daddy held her and bottle fed her first since I was still hospitalized and she was in NICU. The nurses took wonderful care of her until she was able to leave at our insistence, with a nurse visiting to check on her and change bandages. I had been out for a while by then and we were there at the Unit daily to feed her. No bonding problems. We’d tried ten years for her. God bless the medical people who cared for her. Thirty- one years later I remember their names and have recognized two of them since. These wonderful ladies have retired and were giving Covid vaccines as volunteers. Great people.
My heart goes out to those babies Letby killed and their parents.
There’s a special hell for Letby and those who enabled her. The nurse manager should be on her knees begging forgiveness for the rest of her life. As much as I want prosecution for those who had ample opportunity to prevent more deaths but chose not to, I doubt it will come because they have closed ranks to protect each other. Disgusting.
@househenderson1982 I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. That must stain your life, your memory and your heart. I cannot fathom how you were able to get through that traumatic loss, seeing your baby in complete distress and not being able to fix it yourself when that's all you wish to do in that moment. I hope that despite the way your baby died, you have had a good life, I don't think I could use the word great because a part of you died, but as good of a life as possible. Thank you for sharing your story, it helps remind people watching these horrific crimes that good people still exist.
As a mother who has lost a child by someone else’s evil , Let’s hope the woman she shares a cell with shows her how sorry she really is in a very special way . 😡
I am so so sorry
I am so so soryy for ypour loss
I am truly sorry for your loss and I 💯 %%%%agree with you !! Losing a child is the worst pain a parent can ever Feel , She is an EVIL POS MONSTER , Anyone that would hurt a child Or defenseless animals deserve to be buried under the jail !! I believe that our loved ones are truly never gone And we will be with them again , I have to believe this. I know it doesn't Make the pain any less.
Tbh I'd rather she be stuck in solitary confinement. That shit is psychological torture beyond anything her fellow inmates can do .
She won’t be sharing- this is England she gets her own tv and all 🇦🇺
Believe it or not , some folks think she is a "scapegoat" "innocent" . She is definitely guilty in my opinion. Those who allowed her to continue on her killing spree should also face charges and not be allow to simply retire with a big fat pension
The comments under some of the court coverage channels have been wild. People thinking she can’t have done it because ‘what on earth would her motive have been.’ As if serial killers have a specific motive for murdering each of their victims. Like they must have been slighted by them in some way. Madness!
I agree
Some people really are naive to the existence of genuinely bad people
Could you maybe explain this more?!? A scapegoat for what?! Holy crap. Going on a deep dive
@@raileyyyyyyfor the hospital to not get in trouble, bc those people are saying they're putting on her to take the fall. But the hospital should get in trouble too.
As someone who lives nearby where this monster who committed these atrocious murders, I am so grateful to you Stephanie for covering this. This creature needs to have everything stripped of her and be known for nothing other than being a disgusting child killer across the world.
The statements of the families and the judge should be recorded and played on a continual loop in Lucy’s cell for the duration of her entire incarceration. There should never be a day in her life when she doesn’t have to listen to them.
All those people who refused - not just failed - to take action when it was brought to light that all the deaths had a common denominator (named Lucy Letby) should be charged with aiding and abetting for each murder and attempted murder.
Tmw… they didn't just refuse to do anything… they made the doctors who alerted that something was going on… write a formal APOLOGY LETTER to Lucy Letby for even suspecting her for doing something to those babies.
It was That poxy Manager!! Who I can say has just lost her new job!! I hope they throw the book at her too!!
Stephanie with her vape, lipstick, and pissed off face during the sentencing is such an absolute mood. I love it so much.
I’m glad the heat is also on Tony Chambers, the hospital CEO for telling the whistleblower doctors to apologize to Lucy Letby 26:48 🙈 I mean the embarrassment he must have now to be linked to her that way. Well deserved embarrassment.
Good! I was going to be so mad if whoever was responsible wasn't going to be named. It's the least they could do, so he can be ostracized.
The fact that people wanted to brush this under the rug is absolutely disgusting! Her getting a life sentence is not nearly enough for what she did
What else did you wanted her to get? Actual life sentence with no parole option is crazy rare in UK, she’s literally one of the few women who have gotten it. And knowing the nature of her crimes her life in jail won’t be a picnic. Hell arguably death penalty could have actually been a mercy in this case (if it happened in US)
She got a whole life order. She will never be released and there is no higher tariff available to judge.
It's A FULL LIFE SENTENCE!!!!
How I actually heard it was she got a life sentence for each incident.
I dont think lucy should get a beatdown as that would give her attention and sympathy from some instead hopefully no one speaks to her or acknowledges her in any way as she craves attention of any kind let her have no one give her any kind of attention she will suffer more as she deserves to suffer she can become a ghost to others
My youngest son did a NICU stay. He was there for 10 days (which is nothing when you look at other NICU stays, but it felt like forever to me.) I literally stayed to make eye contact with every shift when I was there. I trusted the nurses with something even more precious to me than my own life. I was stuck 5 hours away from him for the first 48 hours because he was flown out and I had to stay since I'd had a C-section. I sobbed. I cried. But above all I had to trust that everyone taking care of him was nothing like Lucy. I called in the middle of the night multiple times just to make sure he was okay. The NICU nurses were so sweet and kind and never seemed to mind my crazy obsessive self. I can't imagine what these families went through with what Lucy did to them... It's absolutely awful.
Uk nurse specialist here, I can’t express the anger I have for this evil entity. The affect this has on patients and mothers-to-be is awful, the fear, the miss trust, I hate her to my core, I don’t think I have ever felt as strongly about any other perpetrator. How on earth could she do these things to the most vulnerable, fragile and beautiful little souls. I wish the victims families peace, love and light. RIP beautiful babies ❤
Apparently another nurse has been arrested in Birmingham as well
I was born 3 months premature at 29 weeks (1lb 3oz). To think she could harm such tiny, innocent, defenceless babies is just beyond me. Thankful she will be behind bars for the rest of her life. My heart is with the parents of the victims. ❤
Thank you for the slight comedic relief through sarcasm while discussing this horrific story. It’s the only way I can get through these videos
Perfect timing! I live in the UK and this case has been heartbreaking. Still can't believe that Lucy didn't have to attend her sentencing though. I thought that was disgusting. Love your content Stephanie! Big love to you! 💕
I saw a news article that they are thinking of changing this so if they don't more time is added to their sentence.
Agree. Absolutely absurd that she was not made to attend the sentencing and impact statements.
I hope the citizens of the UK can push for the administration to be looked at. They were nearly as culpable as Letby
@@Victoria-wz9ubi wonder if it’s for the best considering how obsessed she was with the families after murdering their babies. perhaps the less attention she gets from them the better, it seems like she feeds on it.
Lots of them don't..the freak that killed Olivia didn't either.....its disgusting!!
I have been following this nonstop and would lay my life down for each and every baby Lucy just wouldn't LET BE. Thank you for your coverage of this. I have fighting to have a child for a decade now and I am so heartbroken for these families and their loss. My prayers are with all affected by her evil, intentional actions.
My son was in the nicu since he was born 5 weeks early. You are dependent on the nursing staff to keep your child alive and it's a helpless feeling . Seeing the strong, smart 16 year old he has grown to be, breaks my heart for the parents of Lucy's victims. I pray all these babies rest in peace.
I totally agreed with you Stephanie. I hate this woman. I didn't think, I could hate anyone more than Casey Anthony 🤬🤬
Her friends and family defending her make me sick 🤢
Such a weird take, I agree
I don’t understand how anyone can defend her she’s evil snd those poor baby and their family’s
@@michellestreater3296I think they are in denial, most people defending her are not justifying what she did but saying she didn’t do them at all.
The evidence is pretty conclusive but a lot of people think that unless it’s physical evidence or CCTV footage or “doesn’t count”
Right so many wrote her character letters smh
What’s so surprising about it? It’s not like there is a video of her strangling a baby or smt, it’s all circumstantial evidence. Of course the people who have known her for years and seen her to be nothing but sweet and kind are not gonna think she’s guilty of a horrific crimes right away. Especially bc there’s a lot of negligence in medical field sadly and hospital looking for a scapegoat is not unthinkable.
I personally do think that she’s probably guilty (hopefully, otherwise it would be really tragic) but I also don’t have any personal feelings towards her
I respect the doctors who fought for justice. The people that covered this up to save their own asses should face charges as well.
The doctors who waited 2 years to oi to the police...now its coming out the doctors in that place were incompetent...and one was on duty when most of the e so called 'murders' happened
im in nursing school right now working with children, particulary preemies and at risk neonates. im so horrified to hear how this hospital handled this entire situation. Dr steven needs a damn nobel peace prize!
You'll be pleased to know that the inquiry that is to be held regarding this case is to be made a public inquiry, meaning those involved are compelled by law to give evidence under oath. I really hope they're made to squirm under the spotlight.
Bet you the Karen who kept burying her head in the sand about "sweet wittle Lucy uwu" cries. She sounds like the type and when she does, I want the lawyer/barrister to tell her to knock it off because she didn't do anything to stop it and more babies would've died if things had been done HER way regarding Lucy.
Throw every one of the in prison for one year for each dead child.
I just hope that the inquiry is a ridid and is investigated as thourghly as the Shipman investigation was. It will be, so harrowing for those poor families of the babies that died. But it might give them the closure they need.
I just hope that it isn’t as flawed as the Nicola Bulley inquest was.
I'm a, somewhat, new subscriber. I love the channel and greatly appreciate all of the hard work you put into each episode. The main thing that brought me here and continues bringing me back is the length of each episode. To me, each episode being over an hour means a few things. It means you actually put real work into the research, the script/outline(whatever method you use to organize your thoughts), the presentation. It says to me that you're more focused on quality rather than just trying to push content. Sometimes I hear you mention comments complaining about the length of the episode. I hope you never change that. Also, same with the comments that attack your personality.... Don't change. Social media is full of people complaining. They are going to complain no matter what. They are not the people that really matter in "the real world". Don't pay them any attention(that's all they want). Please keep it up and thank you for your great work!
Exactly all of this. I watch her, and the Crime Weekly podcast she does, because of the length and derail. It saddens me when she and/or Derrick (Crime Weekly) apologise for the length because some people complain. Some people just have no attention span. They should stick to Tiktok where you have a case covered in a few minutes with no substance or effort.
I’m so hyped you’re doing an update on this!! Glad to see justice for those innocent babies
And the parents of those sweet babies!! What she did is unforgivable to me.
@@Girl_with_a_Subie_WRX You’re one million percent correct
The real justice is yet to come, watch this space on this evil creature ...like to see how she fends against women who hate baby murderers
As a twin and mom of a preemie, this case breaks my heart. Sharing the same name as her makes me sick. She is a monster. I hope the remainder of her days are as painful as the tragedy she has caused.
I'm sorry you even have to have that thought! You have a great name she shouldn't be granted a name anymore. Or it should be changed to something icky like her.
You’re the cool Lucy, not the killer Lucy. If anything, she should be ashamed of having such a wonderful name when she’s anything but a wonderful person.
@@brittanyragon6033 that's so sweet. thanks!
@@AngelusaNobilis thank you xx
Thanks!
I'm still seeing people who believe this is a miscarriage of justice, probably because they can't get past how "vanilla" she looks but what exactly does a serial killer look like? She's right where she belongs.
I've not heard ANYONE say this is an injustice....Not One person!!
@@PaganPunk Just because you haven't seen them, doesn't mean they don't exist. I've seen numerous people who believe she's innocent in the comment sections of other channels covering this case.
@PaganPunk girl there have been many people trying to defend this woman
@@PaganPunkcheck comments under some of the court coverage channels. Plenty of people white knighting for her saying a nurse wouldn’t do this, she has no motive, she doesn’t look the type, she’s been set up by the trust. It’s gross.
@@PaganPunkI had seen a lot of people say that they believed she was innocent and that she was framed for failings in the NHS. They were apparently using her as a ‘cover up’ but I haven’t seen anything like that in the last couple of weeks. That’s just me though 🤷🏼♀️
As a NICU mom, my daughter was blessed with the best nurses you could ask for…I’m so beyond thankful❤️…to know monsters like this roam free…I’m horrified for these innocent souls….I hope she lives a nice, long life behind those bars, so she can think about why she’s behind them every, single day. I hope the families touched by her find a way to heal one day🙏
This has been all over the news here in the UK and I've been waaaaaaaaaaiting for your update on it! I'm so glad she got actual life, it's rare to see that here
Heads are rolling. There is an inquiry and calls for the bosses to go to jail for not listening to the doctors. This case is not over
As a NICU mom, I cannot handle this story. I was blessed to have my son at 36 weeks and he had a rough start but was only there for 9 days. I saw so many parents though who had been there 100+. She is a monster. She is a demon. She deserves to rot. Thank you Stephanie for covering this. It is such a hard case to learn about, especially as a mother.
Im having a hard time watching as well. My baby was born at 32 weeks, healthy but just needed to grow. Regardless you’re paranoid and sad your baby can’t be home with you and out all your trust in the nurses and hospital. I just cannot fathom this.
@@alidemee8161 Absolutely, there is this guilt and longing that no one really understands. Our hospital made us leave during shift change and it would be the only time I would be away, but I would be so paranoid the whole time. I pray your little one is thriving!
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 I was lucky to have some of the most amazing women looking after my little guy. Our nurses were incredible, but it is so scary to think how this “normal” ass lady was just hurting and killing these babies in the most sick way and NO ONE DID ANYTHING! Praying your two Little’s are thriving! ❤️
Thank you, thank you, thank you Stephanie! Not only did you refer to this psycho in appropriate terms but you called out those self serving NHS members who did not take action to protect themselves and because it would get messy. The deaths were vicious and painful. She deserves the same. I applaud those doctors who stood their ground pursuing this monster and even had to apologise to her.
Welcome to UK! The NHS is starved of money, many of its services have been privatised, costing much more than it would if still in house.
Ignoring the signs was about money and reputation and nothing else. 😢
So sorry for the families involved. It should never have happened!
Lucy Letby asked the parents who were holding their dying baby, if they wanted to put the baby in a moses basket destined for dead babies. Mum replied 'he is not dead yet'. I hope she rots in prison
Nurse here. Everywhere i have worked, if you suspect abuse and don't report it, you are just as guilty as the person doing the abuse. Sad and mad.
From a U.K. fan. Thank you for covering a crime from here. Love your videos ❤
These cases are heartbreaking. We’ve have yet another nurse being investigated this week from another hospital poisoning 3 babies. We seem to breed these serial killer nurses and doctors 😢
Uk fan also. It beggars belief that there is another nurse arrested. So sad and scary xx
I’m certain this type of thing is not just in the UK. Maybe other countries have a different set up to catch these people earlier. In the US there have been more abuses in nursing homes, where ill or unconscious patients are left alone for a long time. Our system is set up such that if hospitals have issues, insurers won’t pay. So there are plenty of checks and certifications, etc. Since we don’t have NHS, hospitals who lose approval won’t last. There are other problems here, like patient nutrients and drugs being stolen, but that has changed. Since I worked at a hospital 30-plus years ago. Technology has been a big help. Our potential serial killers have to go to other professions 🥺🤨
Literally have been waiting for this. Have watched your 3part series on Lucy Letby a lot, and so glad that Justice was served and she will never leave prison. Unfortunately here in the Uk we do not have a death penalty anymore, but if anyone deserves it, then it’s this evil monster. Thoughts and prayers are with all the families who have been affected by her vile actions xx
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was waiting anxiously for this follow up episode.
I'd be okay with Britain passing a law saying death penalty is legal for one person and one person only: Lucy Letby. But I also like the idea of her suffering in prison, even though it could never compare to the pain of having your newborn murdered in such a horrific way.
@@smallfuzzymoss literally been checking everyday waiting for the update xxx
Thanks to you Stephanie for covering these stories. They are hard, especially when you're a parent yourself and can feel the pain. Myself, as a parent, feel it through the narration
I love the way that judge read his statement slowly and pointedly. He made every word of that statement hit its mark.
He did it very well and you could hear his controlled anger on the behalf of the families.
At first i thought she could be a scapegoat. There was a media ban on this case so i couldnt get my head around how they had enough evidence to convict as the babies were such high risk. The thought of a nurse hurting babies just goes against everything we know about the nursing profession. After hearing the evidence this monster is where she belongs. My heart is broken for the babies and their families. The uk government has now passed a law that convicts will be made to appear in court for sentencing. She should be made to appear and hear the victim impact statements face to face. All those who did nothing in order to not rock the boat should face criminal charges. Thankyou stephanie for covering this again. ❤
Excellent delivery by the Judge. I can hear a bit of emotion when he said 'Some of those babies struggled in vain'😭
Ohhh poor baby’s
This series came out right before I had my son, who actually also ended up being premature and was in the NICU for two weeks. To say I was on my guard those two weeks was an understatement, but luckily we had the best nurses in our NICU who loved nothing but to help our son and watch him excel in there! Thank you for your in depth videos shedding light on true monsters in our world and the warning signs they have ❤
I also had my son right after the original series came out. I couldn't bring myself to watch it at the time. I was already scared and emotional enough. I knew I couldn't handle it.
I waited PATIENTLY for this video. Only Stephanie can give an IN-DEPTH detailed video. This is such a sad series of events. I wanna know the timeline of the reports of what was happening and if the heads will be charged as well.
I binged all of your videos on this case today, fantastic job as always Stephanie.
It really blows my mind how I (& I'm sure plenty others) can be chastised like a child & held accountable for stupid mistakes in my normal non-life or death boring job but this demon who is CLEARLY questionable doesn't have a single ounce of consequence or accountability until how many BABIES DIED?! Absolutely mind-blowing. This is by far I would say the WORST case I have ever heard & thank you once again for covering it & not holding back. Keep up the great work!
My twins were micro premies, in the nicu over 3 mo. Just being in the nicu is traumatizing enough. My heart breaks for these parents. The bond you make with your primary nicu nurses can last a lifetime. What a monster.
As a nurse I can tell you getting a doctor to apologize to a nurse would be incredible and would be the talk of the town. They do sound like good health care processionals and thank goodness they were persistent and never gave up. At least someone was looking out for those babies❤
Edit: the judges words brought me to tears😢 i bet he had a long night writing this out. Poor guy has to read this out after already being punished with hearing the whole timeline in great detail.
And Lucy wasn’t even present for it. I hope they broadcast it live into her cell. She should have been forced to take her own medicine.
This is so horrendous! The people who turned their heads and allowed this to continue definitely need to be held accountable. Thank you Stephanie for always speaking for the victims and their families. I’m so thankful you aren’t afraid to speak your mind and not worry about hurting the feelings of people who obviously have no moral code.
I cannot sing for the life of me, but I sing this song every time I watch Coffee and Crime Time!!!
Sing it loud and proud!
Do you know what the song is called or the artist?
@@bethanevans6482 Chemical Love is the name of the song I believe.
That's funny because I literally just disconnected my headphones so my husband could listen to the song I was singing along to. 😂
Love the snark! both Lucy Letby and the hospital management deserve it all!
My senior charge nurse came into theatre for positioning my patient prone. Turns out pressure sores near the hips had increased and SCN just wanted to be sure we were doing our job properly (turns out there was an issue with table padding that was easily fixed).
My boss took action for small blisters and they ignored babies suddenly dying. I'm just beyond stunned at their behaviour
For once a case in the UK where life actually means life! 🎉
We have lots in prison on Whole life sentences
@@PaganPunkthere isn’t that many lol
I'm glad youve covered her sentencing Stephanie ❤ each and every one of these babies had already fought against the odds only to be taken out by the one person who was meant to take care of them. It's absolutely heartbreaking and my heart goes to the families xx
Your getting so close to a million subs! All your hard work over the years is paying off! So proud of you!
I’m glad she got a full life term and I hope she suffers daily for the rest of her life, but the fact that she was allowed to be absent from her sentencing is a miscarriage of justice in itself. I feel so angry that she wasn’t forced to sit there and listen to the families’ statements. Vile woman, it’s hard to listen to the depth of her evil without bursting into tears. May those babies’ souls find peace.
I’ve never heard of this where the defendant isn’t present at sentencing. What gives?? 😡
Well, just be glad that in prison the other inmates HATE child killers and molesters. They'll whoop her and I wouldn't be surprised if she's killed.
I was born prematurely with same birth weight as some of her victims. This case upset me deeply.
am also a former care worker and would never dream of harming a vulnerable child or person.
We have a history of premature births in our family. Grateful to the deccent nurses out there who saved myself and my other family members
Dude, you are just so good at this. I’ve listened/watched four podcasts/RUclips episodes and you are, FAR AND AWAY, better. The way you tell a story is just top tier. You’re in depth research is unmatched and I learned WAY more about who Lucy was and how absolutely manipulative she was of her trusted colleagues. I worked in healthcare for almost two decades and I will say the bond between nurses is strong. I think far more people must be held accountable. I cannot believe what she was able to get away with. It’s emotional. Those poor families. I can’t even. I can’t. I just can’t.
Bravo, Stephanie! Another great episode. 👏👏
It’s true. She delivers outrage beautifully
She is utterly awesome, hands down the best out there.
I was a nurse for 24 years, I was a float so I went where I was needed for the night. I worked ICU, CCU, Oncology and extremely stressful floor. If I got sent to pets or the nursery I counted myself lucky to have a non stressful night of holding babies , feeding them and tal,talking, with young children. People I could pick up a hold without straining something.
I’m so mad that she wasn’t there for sentencing, to hear the impact statements. Why would that be optional?!? It’s arguably the most important part of her consequences - clearly laying out exactly what she did and why she is being punished. Of course she didn’t WANT to be there. Why wasn’t her attendance mandatory?
The image of her shoving all their thoughts and feelings into a plastic bag under her bed - makes my blood boil
I legitimately don't understand how that can even happen. Was she just chilling at home? How ridiculous!
She should have been escorted there by guards/police
I'm glad they've now changed the law so that people now have to be there but it's crazy to me it wasn't already the law....I didn't even know that was the case and I live in the UK
@@Willow_moon364they haven't changed the law yet. They only announced the intention to change the law. We don't know if it will pass parliamentary scrutiny of both houses
It's terrible the "Business" of hospital takes precedent over the sick individuals who entrust their lives and care to them. The upper chain of hospital management should be held accountable. They had knowledge this was happening. They had credible witnesses this was happening and by whom, yet they remained complacent and went so far as to hide it. Just as guilty as Lucy.
Love your videos, Stephanie! This case has been so disturbing... Glad to see she cant harm any more children.
She's already been attacked and was admitted to hospital , it will happen again when she gets returned unless she gets put in solitary for 'her protection'. Im a health care worker and can't wrap my head around why someone could do this to the most vulnerable patients. May they all rest in peace and sending love to the parents , this should never have happened .
This was a fake rumor, she's been in isolation.
@collettepryce3747 ah OK, I should have known that haha. Thank you for letting me know 😊
My son spend 42 days in the NICU; he was born at 29 weeks. I’m so thankful for all his nurses. I would go everyday and just sit by his bed starting at him. I would take the best naps on the chair knowing we were so close to each other.
been watching for 3 years and still in awe how each episode is better and better than the last. thank you for your content stephanie ❤
This is such a horrific tragedy! And the way the hospital administrators handled this was absolutely disgusting! My heart breaks for the families of those precious babies😢
I love Stephanie sarcasm while reading those texts 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just heard on the news (I live in England) that a law has been passed to make sure that defendants have to be there at their sentencing and the police etc can use reasonable force to make sure it happens 👍YES!
Isn't it disgusting she was allowed to skip out on hearing her sentence. It's so disrespectful to the court system to not appear.
Wish she wouldn't have been allowed to skip it like a miscreant teenager skipping school, but at least this law has been passed.
@@susank2586right? She thinks everyone is beneath her. How absurd.
This is a terrible plan - as much as I agree in theory that defendants should face up to their crimes there is no way this can work with a defendant who is unwilling. Some could turn violent and the police and/or security would be at risk of being assaulted and then there is the strong likelihood of them disrupting the courtroom, laughing at the victims, shouting awful things or just generally making the whole thing about them instead of the victims. Plus let's not forget that with defendants like Letby there is evidence to suggest a level of enjoyment of causing suffering so if she was forced to sit through the parents' statements she might view it as her final opportunity to revel in her "achievements"
My daughter was hospitalized with severe double sided pneumonia and we had a very close eye on her, one of us was by her side at every single minute. I once stopped a nurse from putting air bubbles into her iv line. The nurse said that only a little bit wouldn’t be harmful but I made her clear the whole thing before putting any medication into it. I didn’t want to risk it at all, she was very young. Maybe I was too careful but that’s just me. (In Sweden 🇸🇪) she wasn’t a premature baby or anything.
Thank you Stephanie. I first heard of this case watching your podcast. Your deep dive showed how much you care about these babies and there families . This trial seemed to take forever. Thanks for sticking with it until justice was served