@@gumunduringigumundsson4315 Don't forget the presence of toxic gases. Which can be emitted without any advanced warning. Fast And Rapid Transmission is the acronym.
It's official. I will now refer to "water" as "Sweet Sweet Moon Juice" forever more. (Thank you, Joe! I love how super informative your videos are. You really know your stuff!)
One of the things that I heard about the polar craters is that they have some kind of insane electrical potential because of the solar wind hitting the slopes but not the depths; it would be great if we could figure out how to harness that…rather than just using it to fry robots (and preferably not astronauts).
Probably not useful. Earth also has a fair-weather electric field of about 100 Volts per meter, but there's very little energy stored in it. Trying to extract energy from it just collapses the field nearby. On the moon if you put up some electrodes at best you'd probably just have a dust collector.
@@danieljensen2626 Maybe not that useful for power generation (it is, but on a huge scale - and it is passive and endless supply), but dust collectors on a dusty celestial body - don't underestimate the usefulness of that. Since solar power would probably be a major source of electricity, having those dust collectors near panels would lower the dust accumulation on them, thus lowering maintenance and increasing the power generated.
You need to watch 'For All Mankind' Joe. The way they write the alternate timeline to continue the space race is extremely believable. It's an excellent series.
the political stuff is out there, but most of the science is meh, they use the shuttle to get to the moon which makes exactly zero sense, its more a fan fiction of what could've happened instead of a faithful guess
Ehh. I do like the series, its good entertainment. But the scientific believability.... I´m no space engineer, but even I could spot considerable problems in nearl every Ep. Also - you really think somebod like Joe has not seen it? Probably repeatedly? Sweet summer child.
I toured with a guy named Scott Tingle during my time in the Navy. We were pilots together in the same squadron. He's now an astronaut and has been assigned to the Artemis team. Amazing person to know.
Dude, I've only been watching for a year or so and your videos have always been great but the quality as of late is astounding!! Youre a great communicator
Yep I watched it live at 1 pm from school, grade 6. Decided to become a computer scientist right then, now about to retire after 44 years experience in aerospace and tech. Great to see excitement again
By the time you threw that "Here It Goes Again" clip, I went and tried to liked your video a second time. The first one was obviously the "waned interest" joke. Best humor in a science Yt channel? Yes, definitely.
5:10 says Viper can’t power itself through solar power… yet, that’s exactly how it’s powered, albeit that solar power is stored in batteries for use during dark periods which can last up to 4 days.
4:35 Yooo I'm working on Viper, that's my baby! I guess I'm biased in thinking it's a cool mission, literally outrunning the sunset and diving into cold-trap craters that haven't seen sun in billions of years
If anyone interested in space and moon there is a tv series called "For All Mankind". Its about alternative history where countries focus on space exploration. Highly recommend it.
I feel like it turned too much into a relationship drama. Considering that most of its audience is space nerds, I think they'd much rather watch a 24-hour livestream of grass growing on the ISS than seeing an astronaut's wife cheat on him with their dead son's friend.
Yeah, just finished the last episode. Lot's of filler less space stuff. Also I can understand why all buildings were poorly lit in the 60's and 70's but the whole show up to the 90's is basically filmed with two lamps in any given room. I started calling it the "Lamp Show".
@@uku4171 You have stumbled onto EVERYTHING wrong with modern so-called sci-fi. They tend to be corny family soap operas or corny Hallmark films about family bonds, only with gizmos. Like we nerds give a shit about mawkish melodrama. Where is our generation's 2001 or Matrix (the first one)?
@@jonbong98 MTV construction and practice, allows for practicing Mars missions without doing one (spending a long time on Gateway, then down to surface), acts as a comm relay for surface operations, a parking spot for Orion and lunar landers to get supplies and for long term sustaimment,the list goes on Also: politically its a great idea for sustaining a program as the ISS has shown Congress has a hard time letting go of space starions, so Gateway allows us to build that political anchor far quicker, easier, and cheaper than a habitat
8:30 no, Viper will NOT be “in darkness the entire time.” NASA’s website says it will be in darkness up to 4 days at a time during its 100-day mission. It also says the rover uses batteries charged by solar power. So, no to constant darkness.
I envy you all those years ahead and hope you get to see a lot of wonderful space exploration and enough medical advancement that you don't die of heart disease.
@2:45 We call it Lake Winnie for short, but say it with me now: "Win-na-ba-GOSH-ish." Fourth largest lake in Minnesota and super popular with anglers, swimmers, boaters.
"Destination agnostic"? I'm going to start a prog-rock-jazz-fusion band so our debut triple album can be titled Destination Agnostic, then fail miserably, then make people wonder why the F something so premature, expensive and pointless was ever launched -- just like the Gateway.
@@carlodave9 i'm certain the analogy made sense for you but it doesn't. How do you compare a niche genre not everyone listens to a program that provides families and stimulate the god forsaken economy? It's not like we're wasting money. The technology we will discover along the way will help the populace down here on earth. And the mistakes made along the way - it's just info for the future when humanity is ready to try again.
@@joansparky4439 Because 1. The Moon is way way closer to Earth than Mars meaning it's about 100x easier to get to the Moon and back than Mars and also if something goes wrong on the Moon help is only 3 days away vs Mars where help is 9 months away at best so if you have an emergency then I guess too bad 2. Once you actually get to Mars you're greeted by a freezing radioactive hellhole where you have to constantly live in bunkers and tunnels with no windows if you don't want to die of cancer which is extremely taxing on the mind for even the most resilient people and if just one person goes crazy and decides to open an airlock or start a fire then everyone dies 3. Unlike the moon which is rich in resources such as millions of tons of water ice, Helium-3 and Thorium, Mars doesn't have much to offer and especially not for us back on Earth 4. Generating power on Mars would be significantly harder than on the Moon since solar energy alone would not be enough due to Mars' distance to the Sun making solar less efficient and also dust storms would render solar basically useless making nuclear the only viable option which has problems of it's own such as nuclear waste which on Earth isn't much of a problem since you can just melt it together with glass and steel then encase it in concrete and bury it but on Mars that could be an issue however even if we find a solution for that there is still the problem of making the reactor small enough to carry all the way to Mars and finally 5. Even if we solve all those issues we still don't really have a reason to actually go there.
@@joansparky4439 Here's your chance to quit deflecting and stay on subject... A completely different thread in which someone replied with 4 separate, well thought out rebuttals. Reply to them with 4 of your own in the same manner, using established facts and figures, a zero deflections... And go...
Yep, I worked on the Orion program doing flight software and I can confirm, there are way too many acronyms. There's an entire internal website dedicated to looking up acronyms and sometimes there's 30 different entries for a single acronym making it even more confusing which one is being referred to. One time I IMd someone on my team and used a sentence with 10 acronyms, would look like a foreign language to anyone else reading it.
@@andrewpastore1380 Hey Andrew,can you share more info about your job profile in Orion. How do you landed up doing flight software, qualification and other stuff needed to do it. I am very much interested in space science,so I will really appreciate if you share some information on it. Thanks
Sorry I can't talk much about the job. If you have a degree in a STEM field and some previous work experience under your belt you can likely get a job at Lockheed Martin in some capacity and move internally to the program your interested in, in this case LM Space. Good luck!
The more you think about it, the more the name Artemis fits this series of mission. The Greek Goddess of wild animals, vegetation, and the hunt (among other things), fits this mission series since they always appear to be in the hunt for success....Glad they are finally having 'some' as it's been a long time coming (or so it seems).
Each year my hopes of seeing a crewed mission to mars in my lifetime seem to dwindle, especially seeing how drawn out and complex just getting back to the moon is becoming.
well.. what commercial interest is up there (Moon) that we don't have down here (Earth)? Next, SX already got the task of moving astronauts from the Gateway to the Surface and back. How long do you think the old-space-guard will be able to keep up SLS for ferrying the astronauts from Earth to the Moon and back, when Starship has to do that trip as well, being bigger and cheaper? Hm? Mars is the goal of a global thinking man and he's invested all his time into it (and will keep doing so). And on the way to that goal he's already able to provide the MO to Moon 'shuttle' pretty much out of the box. If anyone makes it happen that there will be foot-steps on Mars within the next 10 years, it's that guy.
There is no business case for Mars. There’s a very limited business case for the Moon which is shrinking as launch costs from Earth go down. While Musk is highly accomplished he has fallen down on his thinking about Mars. He is not going to finance boots on Mars out of his own pocket. If his rockets take anyone to Mars they’ll be paid for by government(s). The real money is made in LEO and GEO. If there are people in space it will remain the domain of governments and obscenely rich tourists. For 99.9% of humanity a Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic joy-ride is a very expensive extravagance.
It is fascinating for me how when it comes to scarce resourses they are appreciated and high valued. On the Earth we have too much water, but we desperately want that puddle on the Moon.
Great video! I can't wait for parts 2 & 3. I do have a question though, it took the Apollo Astronauts 3ish days to transit from Earth to the Moon, you mentioned it would take the first 2 pieces of Gateway 9 or so months to travel that same distance. Why is there such a huge difference in travel time between Apollo & Gateway?
@@Kyakid 😲 Wow You are working in such a amazing project I am very delighted that I came across someone working for Artemis program Best of luck for your project and I wish you succeed in all your endeavours and make big name for yourself
I promise I paid attention to your words and production values (and found it very interesting!) but I'm nerding out over the figurine of Maximilian from "The Black Hole" over your shoulder. Man, I'm a geek...and old. Thanks for the space-y info!!
Another mystery; my father went from Canada down to an Air & Space museum in the States. Among other things, they had a video presentation of shuttle craft operations in which the “arm” played a key role. Curiously, all references, decals and pictures showing the Canadian aspect, from the name right down to even the flag, was absent from the film. My dad commented that the “Canada Arm” references had obviously been airbrushed out of the video and was told by the presenter that the Shuttle Craft was completely an American invention and Canada had nothing to do with it; obviously (to him) the Canadian government had photoshopped Canadian motifs into the pictures of the “Arm”, as propaganda for Canadians. Somehow, as a Canadian, I don’t think our government is that well organized!
Well, Rockwell was also the nice employer of a sizable chunk of Canadian aerodinamicists from the late Avro Canada CF-105 program (I know, I know...) when it was designing the Orbiter, so the Canadarm wasn't even (maybe) the greatest Canadian contribute to the Shuttle program...
oh brother lol -- if the shuttle had stickers of all the states that contributed the shuttle would look like a nascar racer. also, that isnt true because via a simple google the canada arm is clearly visible in the exhibit at that museum, so actually canada got a special priviledge other contributing states did not.
Would be helpful to cite the name and location of this supposed Air and Space Museum so that others aren't duped into a visit. Otherwise, this sounds suspiciously like just another lame troll attempt using some childish, patriotic fantasy you fabricated... P.S. If you aren't trolling, tell your father to open up his moth filled wallet and check out the Smithsonian or KSC the next time he comes to visit.
Love you Joe and know that you are a really open minded person so please dont forget to use modern international units instead of really outdating ones. A video about the international system of units could be a good reminder that british scientists themselves were among the first promoters of the modern rational system of units that is used nowadays by more than 90% of the world population including if I am not wrong the main US space compagnies.
Hey Joe! Great job, as always i look forward to Monday evening after work, relaxing with some science... Do you think one guy at NASA is responsible for coming up with all the acronyms, or does that require a team?
0:40 I have a picture attached to my fridge to remind me daily of something very important. The picture: "If you don't like something, just take away its only power: your attention." These days it's hard to live by those words, but oh so important! I am very happy to say I never tried TikTok and only invest any time in watching that kind of short videos by accident.
I see that some of these elements will be launched with a Falcon Heavy so it suggests Artemis is not totally depended on SLS (which I see has serious issues of being way too expensive to be sustainable like Saturn). However, my doubts is the complexity. When I was a little boy during 1960s I easily understood architecture of the Apollo program. These days I get confused with so many variables, the Gateway, transit times,... maybe it is all necessary for a sustainable program as compared to the simple task of Apollo (once we beat the Reds to the moon, entire program was shutdown). Anyway thanks for explaining this first part in just 15 minutes.
If you think this is overcomplex, check out the SEI from thirty years ago. The complexity addiction, though still present, is WAY toned down from then. Though some of it is justified: if they ditch SLS Congress will dump the whole project; Starship was, until recently, too far out to seriously think it'd work; and Congress refused to fund a properly powerful upper stage for SLS. As for Gateway, I think they just wanted it, and added it to the project as the only way they'd get it funded (and, frankly, if they're offering a deep space station orbiting the Moon, I say "Yes, please!").
@@marshallfischer3667 It's not just because "it's NASA". It's because it's a cost-plus contract that would have finished long ago if it hadn't been stretched out by Congress. NASA knows better than to do that again (if it's allowed to make the choice anyway).
You may want to point out that they haven't inducted enough new astronauts to crew these missions or scheduled enough time to train them. Almost like they don't expect the program to be completed - or get much beyond the initial crewed launches for that matter.
@@adamwest8711 Even civilians need training, though. NASA has determined that the Lunar mission training program will only take as long as the current ISS training program which was much longer at its start than it is now. No increase in duration for development of the program - they just assume they'll get it right the first time. I doubt they'll stick that landing...
I actually met someone on a tour of a ground based space telescope that didn't think the lunar landings were real because he couldn't see them with the telescope. I didn't even know what to say.
I will ask about if I can film it and send it to you if you’d like. We are making the heat shield structure, the pass through where the astronauts go into the capsule and the inner wall that separates from the last stage I believe (don’t quote me on that one)
I'm glad to hear there actual is Helium 3 on the Moon. I thought that was just made up for Iron Sky (very funny film about Nazis who set up a base on the Moon after WWII) Question: if a baby was born on the Moon and lived until adulthood, could they safely go and live on the Earth afterwards? Or would the fact that they grew up in much lower gravity mean that their bones would be too weak for them to stand and walk around on the Earth?
On the baby question: The lunar native would be stuck, unless they have an artificial spin gravity system like JAXA is proposing for its own missions, which would supplement local gravity to equal (about) 1g. A person who grew up in one of those would have to adjust to the fact that they're no longer living in a centrifuge (so they may be wobbly and/or seasick for a while), but otherwise they should be fine migrating back to Earth.
@@mal2ksc The studies that have been done on the astronauts on the ISS seem to indicate that low gravity can do some real damage to the human body even in the short term. It stands to reason that a 'growing' child would not develop the muscle or bone density required for the G-force required in re-entry or actually existing in Earth's full gravity. Interesting side note, if you watch or read the Expanse series, one of the biggest political/sociological elements is the fact that people born off Earth can't adapt if they return.
@@Nicole-xd1uj And I'm saying JAXA wants to build what amount to giant centrifuges so that colonists can live and work at 1g. If a child grew up in that environment, they _should_ be OK for the genuine 1g of Earth.
@@mal2ksc I've read a few articles on this idea that say a centrifuge would have to be impossibly huge and use incredible amounts of power. Have you seen anything different because I would love to learn about it.
I'm Canadian. When you said the next Canadarm would be made in Croatia, I just instinctively believed you and cursed Justin Trudeau. I didn't instinctively believe you because I never doubt anything you tell me - I instinctively believed you because that's just how disappointing Justin has been for us.
As a Canadian myself I don’t feel disappointed by Justin Trudeau. Sure there have been some gaffs but put in the global context he’s far from the worst.
@@HeatherSpoonheim “…protesters jailed”. Oka Crisis, July 1990 to Sept 1990. or do you make exceptions for when the protesters aren’t white enough for you.
Personally, I feel like Gateway is more of stalling tactic rather than a useful tool. I wonder if NASA is hoping that technology for creating a useful colony will have improved by the time they actually get around to doing anything on the moon's surface. I also worry that if NASA doesn't get their act together, China is going to be set up in all the sites that have useable water.
@@sebastianfiel1715 I don't think they are. Apollo aim for the Moon and it took NASA 10 years to do that, just for the Moon. The distance between the Moon and Earth is much closer than Mars to Earth and Elon hasn't come up with technology for long space travel yet. Not mentioning cosmic radiation, Sun radiation, low gravity. And Elon wants to get first human to Mars in 2026-2029? No, I don't think so.
Wanted to drop a comment about the sponsor, that was actually pretty informative stuff that I'll remember if/when I ever get serious about a channel of my own. Also, great video. As someone who grew up in the shuttle years I can't wait to see some actual moon flights in my lifetime
How could the writers resist the pull of “take that robot and stick it where the Sun doesn’t shine” is one of the Universe’s biggest mysteries.
"Stick it where the sun don't shine"? You mean Uranus.
@@my3dviews Way inside uranus, where the pressure and heat form some kind of exotic substance unknown to even the wisest scientists.
@@gumunduringigumundsson4315 Don't forget the presence of toxic gases. Which can be emitted without any advanced warning. Fast And Rapid Transmission is the acronym.
@@my3dviews or any visit to Taco Bell...
LMAO 🤣
As a Croatian, I got a little excited/shocked at 7:49 thinking wow we are finally doing something interesting... guess not
I ja sam mislio jbt. Hrvatska 😂😂😂
FINALLY!
Someone who actually explains exactly what Artemis 1 is going to do, soo much misinformation about the mission over the internet.
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It's official. I will now refer to "water" as "Sweet Sweet Moon Juice" forever more. (Thank you, Joe! I love how super informative your videos are. You really know your stuff!)
It's "Sweet Moon Juice" from the south Moon pole but just "Iced Moon Juice" from the north.
It's called 'research'. And YOU can do it too!
...or you really know how to read your stuff.
Only use it when you are talking about lunar water. For water closer to home you can use "sweet sweet earth juice" instead
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Thanks for that 🇭🇷 shutout!!!!
2:40 As a Minnesotan, we are obligated to memorize all 10,000 lakes in school, so of course I'm familiar.
the launch was incredible, can’t wait to see people walk on the moon live for this first time in my life
One of the things that I heard about the polar craters is that they have some kind of insane electrical potential because of the solar wind hitting the slopes but not the depths; it would be great if we could figure out how to harness that…rather than just using it to fry robots (and preferably not astronauts).
Hi voltage, low current like getting a shock off a door knob I believe but I would much rather be wrong. We want Juice!
Probably not useful. Earth also has a fair-weather electric field of about 100 Volts per meter, but there's very little energy stored in it. Trying to extract energy from it just collapses the field nearby. On the moon if you put up some electrodes at best you'd probably just have a dust collector.
@@danieljensen2626 Do you watch Channel that adress sysstemic Issues, too?
Or just Sci-Channel?
@@danieljensen2626 Maybe not that useful for power generation (it is, but on a huge scale - and it is passive and endless supply), but dust collectors on a dusty celestial body - don't underestimate the usefulness of that. Since solar power would probably be a major source of electricity, having those dust collectors near panels would lower the dust accumulation on them, thus lowering maintenance and increasing the power generated.
@@Wustenfuchs109 You're dealing with an airless moon, what would be transporting this 'dust' onto the panels?
As always, thanks for these fascinating and informative videos, Joe!
Thanks for helping keep the lights on.
I LOVE SUPPORTING YOU AS A MEMBER JOE. Nobody out there does what you do with the built in wit and humor. You deserve so much success brother.
You need to watch 'For All Mankind' Joe. The way they write the alternate timeline to continue the space race is extremely believable. It's an excellent series.
Jamestown and guns on the moon😄😄
the political stuff is out there, but most of the science is meh, they use the shuttle to get to the moon which makes exactly zero sense, its more a fan fiction of what could've happened instead of a faithful guess
Not with those BS spaceplanes lmao
Ehh.
I do like the series, its good entertainment. But the scientific believability....
I´m no space engineer, but even I could spot considerable problems in nearl every Ep.
Also - you really think somebod like Joe has not seen it? Probably repeatedly?
Sweet summer child.
@@AnimeHumanCoherence yea maybe in the next 100 years for spaceships like that.
But the moon is made of cheese Joe, so sweet sweet moon juice is milk!
I remember the Tom and Jerry episode which proved it
@@ahriskof1 i think you mean The Tom and Jerry documentary...
@@maximilianfinkler8141 when I watched them they were in black and white. But then so was my TV.
Actually it’s whey. Well, a kind of Milky Whey. *ahem*
I toured with a guy named Scott Tingle during my time in the Navy. We were pilots together in the same squadron. He's now an astronaut and has been assigned to the Artemis team. Amazing person to know.
Wow,cool
The Eddie Izzard reference right off the start was a fantastic way to get going!! lol
I wonder how strange it's going to be to think about a time when you could look up at the moon & know that no one is on that celestial body.
Ignore the bot scammer troll fake BS thingy that replied to you. It's not Joe
@@wooddogg8 are u joe?
@@shamicentertainment1262 I'd say he is Joe, just not Joe Scott - the RUclipsr whose video you were watching 😄
It's not that strange.
We're not going back there, anyway.
@@erwin643 I mean, it's obvious we're going back... but staying there or building permanent structures? Doubtful.
Dude, I've only been watching for a year or so and your videos have always been great but the quality as of late is astounding!! Youre a great communicator
Joe you have bots!!!!
I know. It's literally my biggest problem with RUclips right now.
So when do we get the Scotts Joe and Tom RUclips show?
Some of these puns are like nails on a chalkboard. Exceptional work.
Yep I watched it live at 1 pm from school, grade 6. Decided to become a computer scientist right then, now about to retire after 44 years experience in aerospace and tech. Great to see excitement again
As a Croatian, I wish we had any kind of a real space presence. So, seeing you make that joke hits home.
Maybe you guys can develop a Space LEG. I'm Canadian. We did the ARM already.
@@davidmacphee3549 I think we'd first have to develop an incentive for scientists stay in our country.
@@leonbabic7185 "The Dreaded Brain Drain"
I genuinely cannot wait for the next video.
Hopefully well see a SLS launch this year
By the time you threw that "Here It Goes Again" clip, I went and tried to liked your video a second time. The first one was obviously the "waned interest" joke.
Best humor in a science Yt channel? Yes, definitely.
I love this already! I didn't expect the robotic phase to be so exciting. Will make the next 4 years a lot more tolerable as a space fan :D
Great vid Joe! Keep on rockin’!
5:10 says Viper can’t power itself through solar power… yet, that’s exactly how it’s powered, albeit that solar power is stored in batteries for use during dark periods which can last up to 4 days.
I think I remember Sam mentioning storyblocks, must be a great service with so many popular RUclipsrs using it.
4:35
Yooo I'm working on Viper, that's my baby! I guess I'm biased in thinking it's a cool mission, literally outrunning the sunset and diving into cold-trap craters that haven't seen sun in billions of years
who else is rewatching after the Artemis launch this morning??? so excited!!!!!!!!!!!
If anyone interested in space and moon there is a tv series called "For All Mankind". Its about alternative history where countries focus on space exploration. Highly recommend it.
I feel like it turned too much into a relationship drama. Considering that most of its audience is space nerds, I think they'd much rather watch a 24-hour livestream of grass growing on the ISS than seeing an astronaut's wife cheat on him with their dead son's friend.
@@uku4171 lmao, what 💀
Yeah, just finished the last episode. Lot's of filler less space stuff. Also I can understand why all buildings were poorly lit in the 60's and 70's but the whole show up to the 90's is basically filmed with two lamps in any given room. I started calling it the "Lamp Show".
@@zainiadnan2335 No joke, season 2 ep 7 and 8.
@@uku4171 You have stumbled onto EVERYTHING wrong with modern so-called sci-fi. They tend to be corny family soap operas or corny Hallmark films about family bonds, only with gizmos. Like we nerds give a shit about mawkish melodrama. Where is our generation's 2001 or Matrix (the first one)?
Always keepin' it smort Joe!
Man I can't wait to see the Gateway operational. Even the uncrewed missions look really interesting.
Starship refueling would really help
Why ? It offers nothing to NASA's lunar ambitions, apart from expenses and delays, seriously what benefits does it offers?
@@jonbong98 MTV construction and practice, allows for practicing Mars missions without doing one (spending a long time on Gateway, then down to surface), acts as a comm relay for surface operations, a parking spot for Orion and lunar landers to get supplies and for long term sustaimment,the list goes on
Also: politically its a great idea for sustaining a program as the ISS has shown Congress has a hard time letting go of space starions, so Gateway allows us to build that political anchor far quicker, easier, and cheaper than a habitat
@@RandomCommentDue Interesting.
@@jonbong98 I agree. It's like building the Solar System's most expensive bus station EVER. Because that's essentially all it is.
Nice to hear talk of the Lunar Prospector program!!! One of the ones I worked on.
8:30 no, Viper will NOT be “in darkness the entire time.” NASA’s website says it will be in darkness up to 4 days at a time during its 100-day mission. It also says the rover uses batteries charged by solar power. So, no to constant darkness.
Thank you for the Eddie Izzard reference. ❤️
I think this video was very informative and your commentary was lot more funnier than usual.
Can wait to see the whole series
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As a nearly 14 year old, I can't wait for this! I hope by the time I die of heart disease there'll be some kind of moon base on the moon.
Moon base Alpha. From 1999 I believe. :-)
I envy you all those years ahead and hope you get to see a lot of wonderful space exploration and enough medical advancement that you don't die of heart disease.
@@Nicole-xd1uj The heart disease was mostly a self-deprectating joke about me being somewhat overweight, but thank you
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Excited for this series dude
I'm very glad that you mentioned the questionable reality of the Gateway actually being built and launched.
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@2:45 We call it Lake Winnie for short, but say it with me now: "Win-na-ba-GOSH-ish." Fourth largest lake in Minnesota and super popular with anglers, swimmers, boaters.
Thanks, that was really informative! Artemis program feels like we're adding a 0.1 to our kardashev scale :)
"Destination agnostic"? I'm going to start a prog-rock-jazz-fusion band so our debut triple album can be titled Destination Agnostic, then fail miserably, then make people wonder why the F something so premature, expensive and pointless was ever launched -- just like the Gateway.
Yes! :D
@@carlodave9 i'm certain the analogy made sense for you but it doesn't. How do you compare a niche genre not everyone listens to a program that provides families and stimulate the god forsaken economy? It's not like we're wasting money. The technology we will discover along the way will help the populace down here on earth. And the mistakes made along the way - it's just info for the future when humanity is ready to try again.
I've been wanting someone to explain all this. thanks Joe
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I love your vídeos Joe, thank you for the information and the laughs! !
Joe, Thanks for giving us the Moon News!
Joe, your content is always amazing 🦭
Keep up the hard work.., you inspire my kids
Crazy cool. Heading for the moon makes more sense than Mars.
because?.. I mean, when one makes a statement like that the audience expects at least one argument.. so?
@@joansparky4439 Because 1.
The Moon is way way closer to Earth than Mars meaning it's about 100x easier to get to the Moon and back than Mars and also if something goes wrong on the Moon help is only 3 days away vs Mars where help is 9 months away at best so if you have an emergency then I guess too bad
2. Once you actually get to Mars you're greeted by a freezing radioactive hellhole where you have to constantly live in bunkers and tunnels with no windows if you don't want to die of cancer which is extremely taxing on the mind for even the most resilient people and if just one person goes crazy and decides to open an airlock or start a fire then everyone dies
3. Unlike the moon which is rich in resources such as millions of tons of water ice, Helium-3 and Thorium, Mars doesn't have much to offer and especially not for us back on Earth
4. Generating power on Mars would be significantly harder than on the Moon since solar energy alone would not be enough due to Mars' distance to the Sun making solar less efficient and also dust storms would render solar basically useless making nuclear the only viable option which has problems of it's own such as nuclear waste which on Earth isn't much of a problem since you can just melt it together with glass and steel then encase it in concrete and bury it but on Mars that could be an issue however even if we find a solution for that there is still the problem of making the reactor small enough to carry all the way to Mars
and finally 5. Even if we solve all those issues we still don't really have a reason to actually go there.
@@realnub235 it's easier to get to mars from a Delta v pov
Moon is closer obviously but the moon is much more challenging to land on
@TheMagicJizz... It takes less energy to get to Mars than it does, our own Moon? Care to explain?
@@joansparky4439 Here's your chance to quit deflecting and stay on subject...
A completely different thread in which someone replied with 4 separate, well thought out rebuttals.
Reply to them with 4 of your own in the same manner, using established facts and figures, a zero deflections...
And go...
Wow, didn't know about all of these support robotic mission! Keep up with the good work joe 👍
The engineers are really creative in making acronyms with their robots or missions
Yep, I worked on the Orion program doing flight software and I can confirm, there are way too many acronyms. There's an entire internal website dedicated to looking up acronyms and sometimes there's 30 different entries for a single acronym making it even more confusing which one is being referred to. One time I IMd someone on my team and used a sentence with 10 acronyms, would look like a foreign language to anyone else reading it.
@@andrewpastore1380
Hey Andrew,can you share more info about your job profile in Orion.
How do you landed up doing flight software, qualification and other stuff needed to do it.
I am very much interested in space science,so I will really appreciate if you share some information on it.
Thanks
Sorry I can't talk much about the job. If you have a degree in a STEM field and some previous work experience under your belt you can likely get a job at Lockheed Martin in some capacity and move internally to the program your interested in, in this case LM Space. Good luck!
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Ok.
Thanks,Andrew for all your help.
Excellent content Joe, this is the stuff I come back for! Thanks!
The more you think about it, the more the name Artemis fits this series of mission. The Greek Goddess of wild animals, vegetation, and the hunt (among other things), fits this mission series since they always appear to be in the hunt for success....Glad they are finally having 'some' as it's been a long time coming (or so it seems).
First Joe Scott ad I've watched all the way through! So there's that...
Each year my hopes of seeing a crewed mission to mars in my lifetime seem to dwindle, especially seeing how drawn out and complex just getting back to the moon is becoming.
Mars is impractical with out a moon base. Elon should have never hyped mars. He should have been building a moon base.
well.. what commercial interest is up there (Moon) that we don't have down here (Earth)?
Next, SX already got the task of moving astronauts from the Gateway to the Surface and back.
How long do you think the old-space-guard will be able to keep up SLS for ferrying the astronauts from Earth to the Moon and back, when Starship has to do that trip as well, being bigger and cheaper? Hm?
Mars is the goal of a global thinking man and he's invested all his time into it (and will keep doing so). And on the way to that goal he's already able to provide the MO to Moon 'shuttle' pretty much out of the box. If anyone makes it happen that there will be foot-steps on Mars within the next 10 years, it's that guy.
@@joansparky4439 that's a lot of weird word salad sentences, Elon musk is a con man lol.
@@joansparky4439 Helium 3 is a big deal and could power Starship down the 'road'
There is no business case for Mars. There’s a very limited business case for the Moon which is shrinking as launch costs from Earth go down.
While Musk is highly accomplished he has fallen down on his thinking about Mars. He is not going to finance boots on Mars out of his own pocket. If his rockets take anyone to Mars they’ll be paid for by government(s).
The real money is made in LEO and GEO. If there are people in space it will remain the domain of governments and obscenely rich tourists. For 99.9% of humanity a Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic joy-ride is a very expensive extravagance.
It is fascinating for me how when it comes to scarce resourses they are appreciated and high valued.
On the Earth we have too much water, but we desperately want that puddle on the Moon.
Great video! I can't wait for parts 2 & 3. I do have a question though, it took the Apollo Astronauts 3ish days to transit from Earth to the Moon, you mentioned it would take the first 2 pieces of Gateway 9 or so months to travel that same distance. Why is there such a huge difference in travel time between Apollo & Gateway?
Yeah I was curious about that too. I think it has to do with the halo orbit and the way it has to insert itself into it.
@@joescott we never went to the moon
It uses a slow transit to use less delta v
@@DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague By 'we', do you mean yourself and a bunch of your buddies? Just askin'.
@@DollarGeneral_Is_a_Plague BAIT! Only flat Earthers believe we didn't go to the moon.
Thanks for breaking it down for us. This boosted my interest in the program
I am currently working on Lunar Vertex and I can tell you. No program gets off the ground without at least a moderately cool acronym.
What is Lunar Vertex?
@@kashutosh9132 it's a program to deposit a lander and two rovers on the moon. I am working on the science instruments for the lander.
@@Kyakid
😲 Wow
You are working in such a amazing project
I am very delighted that I came across someone working for Artemis program
Best of luck for your project
and I wish you succeed in all your endeavours and make big name for yourself
I promise I paid attention to your words and production values (and found it very interesting!) but I'm nerding out over the figurine of Maximilian from "The Black Hole" over your shoulder. Man, I'm a geek...and old. Thanks for the space-y info!!
Another mystery; my father went from Canada down to an Air & Space museum in the States. Among other things, they had a video presentation of shuttle craft operations in which the “arm” played a key role. Curiously, all references, decals and pictures showing the Canadian aspect, from the name right down to even the flag, was absent from the film. My dad commented that the “Canada Arm” references had obviously been airbrushed out of the video and was told by the presenter that the Shuttle Craft was completely an American invention and Canada had nothing to do with it; obviously (to him) the Canadian government had photoshopped Canadian motifs into the pictures of the “Arm”, as propaganda for Canadians. Somehow, as a Canadian, I don’t think our government is that well organized!
Well, Rockwell was also the nice employer of a sizable chunk of Canadian aerodinamicists from the late Avro Canada CF-105 program (I know, I know...) when it was designing the Orbiter, so the Canadarm wasn't even (maybe) the greatest Canadian contribute to the Shuttle program...
oh brother lol -- if the shuttle had stickers of all the states that contributed the shuttle would look like a nascar racer.
also, that isnt true because via a simple google the canada arm is clearly visible in the exhibit at that museum, so actually canada got a special priviledge other contributing states did not.
Would be helpful to cite the name and location of this supposed Air and Space Museum so that others aren't duped into a visit.
Otherwise, this sounds suspiciously like just another lame troll attempt using some childish, patriotic fantasy you fabricated...
P.S. If you aren't trolling, tell your father to open up his moth filled wallet and check out the Smithsonian or KSC the next time he comes to visit.
Hahahaha that OK-GO flashback gave me chills from highschool
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I'm just happy he mentioned my country Croatia evan if it is a joke XD.
13:18 - I see what you did there - Brilliant!
Love you Joe and know that you are a really open minded person so please dont forget to use modern international units instead of really outdating ones. A video about the international system of units could be a good reminder that british scientists themselves were among the first promoters of the modern rational system of units that is used nowadays by more than 90% of the world population including if I am not wrong the main US space compagnies.
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Thank you Scott lots of real good info along with good news
REALLY?? The VERY FIRST time someone drew a picture of the moon they used a telescope?? Seems unlikely.
Saludos from Argentina! I'm always happy to see your content.
there is one thing i dont like about your videos, they are too short! love the attitude, the vibe, and the jokes, grade A videos, keep them coming!!!
Mondays are hard. It always helps to see a new video from Joe drop.
Hey Joe! Great job, as always i look forward to Monday evening after work, relaxing with some science... Do you think one guy at NASA is responsible for coming up with all the acronyms, or does that require a team?
0:40 I have a picture attached to my fridge to remind me daily of something very important.
The picture: "If you don't like something, just take away its only power: your attention."
These days it's hard to live by those words, but oh so important!
I am very happy to say I never tried TikTok and only invest any time in watching that kind of short videos by accident.
I see that some of these elements will be launched with a Falcon Heavy so it suggests Artemis is not totally depended on SLS (which I see has serious issues of being way too expensive to be sustainable like Saturn). However, my doubts is the complexity. When I was a little boy during 1960s I easily understood architecture of the Apollo program. These days I get confused with so many variables, the Gateway, transit times,... maybe it is all necessary for a sustainable program as compared to the simple task of Apollo (once we beat the Reds to the moon, entire program was shutdown). Anyway thanks for explaining this first part in just 15 minutes.
If you think this is overcomplex, check out the SEI from thirty years ago. The complexity addiction, though still present, is WAY toned down from then. Though some of it is justified: if they ditch SLS Congress will dump the whole project; Starship was, until recently, too far out to seriously think it'd work; and Congress refused to fund a properly powerful upper stage for SLS. As for Gateway, I think they just wanted it, and added it to the project as the only way they'd get it funded (and, frankly, if they're offering a deep space station orbiting the Moon, I say "Yes, please!").
Just leave it to NASA to go billions over budget maybe decades over the timeline.
@@marshallfischer3667 It's not just because "it's NASA". It's because it's a cost-plus contract that would have finished long ago if it hadn't been stretched out by Congress. NASA knows better than to do that again (if it's allowed to make the choice anyway).
@@marshallfischer3667 stop blaming not-congress for issues created and maintained by congress.
@@robertmiller9735 If the US military gets involved it will be renamed to FJSTCSLS (Future Joint Strategic Transport Capability Space Lauch System)
Excellent video, Joe! Thanks! 😊
Awesome info... you mentioned "taking advantage of LaGrange points?" How in the world did astrophysicists' figure that out?
Lagrange stable points. They are mathematical solutions for a stable point for an orbiting mass. It’s just mechanics!
“Over the top gas prices… Can’t imagine what that must be like.” - Love that kind of humour Joe. 👍
and its already outdate kek
You may want to point out that they haven't inducted enough new astronauts to crew these missions or scheduled enough time to train them. Almost like they don't expect the program to be completed - or get much beyond the initial crewed launches for that matter.
They started putting civilians in space. I don’t think the super test pilot requirement still holds.
@@adamwest8711 Even civilians need training, though. NASA has determined that the Lunar mission training program will only take as long as the current ISS training program which was much longer at its start than it is now. No increase in duration for development of the program - they just assume they'll get it right the first time. I doubt they'll stick that landing...
We'll get into that in Part 2. :)
maybe we need another mission :S
TIL that Patreon keeps Joe regular. Got it.
I'm still stunned by all people to this day that think all the maned moOn missions are bogas. Rogan comes to mind.
I actually met someone on a tour of a ground based space telescope that didn't think the lunar landings were real because he couldn't see them with the telescope. I didn't even know what to say.
Cool, i didn't know that a Canadarm 3 is planned. Nice to know we still help out in space, eh. 🇨🇦💪
I’m helping make the Orion spacecraft!
I will ask about if I can film it and send it to you if you’d like. We are making the heat shield structure, the pass through where the astronauts go into the capsule and the inner wall that separates from the last stage I believe (don’t quote me on that one)
The heat shield is particularly interesting a $1m spun forged aluminum alloy that we machine down to .1 of an inch thick in places
@@jimmykelly2809 just make the shield out of water
Thanks!
I'm glad to hear there actual is Helium 3 on the Moon. I thought that was just made up for Iron Sky (very funny film about Nazis who set up a base on the Moon after WWII)
Question: if a baby was born on the Moon and lived until adulthood, could they safely go and live on the Earth afterwards? Or would the fact that they grew up in much lower gravity mean that their bones would be too weak for them to stand and walk around on the Earth?
I wonder if they have tried hatching chickens on the ISS. Do chicks float?
What about mice? Are they 'normal' or grow heads at both ends?
On the baby question: The lunar native would be stuck, unless they have an artificial spin gravity system like JAXA is proposing for its own missions, which would supplement local gravity to equal (about) 1g. A person who grew up in one of those would have to adjust to the fact that they're no longer living in a centrifuge (so they may be wobbly and/or seasick for a while), but otherwise they should be fine migrating back to Earth.
@@mal2ksc The studies that have been done on the astronauts on the ISS seem to indicate that low gravity can do some real damage to the human body even in the short term. It stands to reason that a 'growing' child would not develop the muscle or bone density required for the G-force required in re-entry or actually existing in Earth's full gravity. Interesting side note, if you watch or read the Expanse series, one of the biggest political/sociological elements is the fact that people born off Earth can't adapt if they return.
@@Nicole-xd1uj And I'm saying JAXA wants to build what amount to giant centrifuges so that colonists can live and work at 1g. If a child grew up in that environment, they _should_ be OK for the genuine 1g of Earth.
@@mal2ksc I've read a few articles on this idea that say a centrifuge would have to be impossibly huge and use incredible amounts of power. Have you seen anything different because I would love to learn about it.
Loved the Eddie Izzard reference. Dressed to Kill is a great one!
Who’s here after successful liftoff!? 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Not me, I'm from the past
Yeah that chili really did me in
That Eddie Izzard reference was glorious.
I'm Canadian. When you said the next Canadarm would be made in Croatia, I just instinctively believed you and cursed Justin Trudeau. I didn't instinctively believe you because I never doubt anything you tell me - I instinctively believed you because that's just how disappointing Justin has been for us.
As a Canadian myself I don’t feel disappointed by Justin Trudeau. Sure there have been some gaffs but put in the global context he’s far from the worst.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Sure, he's no Kim Jong-un...but tell me the name of the last Prime Minister to have protestors jailed.
@@HeatherSpoonheim “…protesters jailed”. Oka Crisis, July 1990 to Sept 1990.
or do you make exceptions for when the protesters aren’t white enough for you.
@@CarFreeSegnitz No, I make exceptions when a gunfight breaks out.
Excellent, descriptive video!! Thanks 👍🏿💯
Personally, I feel like Gateway is more of stalling tactic rather than a useful tool. I wonder if NASA is hoping that technology for creating a useful colony will have improved by the time they actually get around to doing anything on the moon's surface. I also worry that if NASA doesn't get their act together, China is going to be set up in all the sites that have useable water.
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I like how NASA has a more realistic mission than Elon Musk
Elon Musk's mission is as realistic as Nasa Apolo's mission back in the day
Almost as if actual scientists are better at planning than an egomaniacal investor
@@sebastianfiel1715 I don't think they are. Apollo aim for the Moon and it took NASA 10 years to do that, just for the Moon. The distance between the Moon and Earth is much closer than Mars to Earth and Elon hasn't come up with technology for long space travel yet. Not mentioning cosmic radiation, Sun radiation, low gravity. And Elon wants to get first human to Mars in 2026-2029? No, I don't think so.
@@onEmEmbErstudios Maybe. Now tell me: for how many years NASA worked until achieving reusable rockets?
You are absolutely NEVER going to get a NASA program without at LEAST 15 new acronyms. This is a valuable public service. Be grateful.
Though "PIE-Led" is actually P.I.-led...Principle investigator-led. A PI is a NASA scientist in charge of a mission or experiment on a mission.
Ah yes. The Acronyms. Welcome to the mind of our overlords, Joe.
Really love your channel. Learning so much, keep it rolling!
I appreciate that you went to a 1990’s Eddie Izzard picture for “hoocha hoocha hoocha” love that guy
Well I hope it all works out. We are so lame if we don't do this
11:54 the most fitting treatment of the Artemis program 😂😂😂
(Because Artemis has a lot of delays and such)
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Didn't turn out all that good the last time they rushed a launch.
Wanted to drop a comment about the sponsor, that was actually pretty informative stuff that I'll remember if/when I ever get serious about a channel of my own.
Also, great video. As someone who grew up in the shuttle years I can't wait to see some actual moon flights in my lifetime
One of the few times a sponsor add sound believable. Something he understandably needs for his production.
Thank you for finally explaining why you and Isaac Arthur and others have the same scifi b-roll. Storyblocks!
Isaac arthur is really good
"Zoe the Robot" approves of all of Joe's videos... Except for maybe that one.... (Great work, Joe!)
Damn it Joe, now I have to look up "Here it goes again", great song.
Thanks for another day of information I seen the video and said finally