Do AXLE BACKS Really Make POWER??? DYNO TESTING & MYTH BUSTING AWE EXHAUST

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2020
  • Hey Everyone,
    Do axle backs really add any torque or horse power? In today's video we are DYNO testing the AWE Axle Back Exhaust for the F30 BMW 340i to either myth bust or prove power gains!
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  • @Just1MoreMod
    @Just1MoreMod 3 года назад +5

    This series ROCKS! Straight up honesty goes a long way in the car community 👍🏼

  • @alvinle7471
    @alvinle7471 3 года назад +1

    Great video guys ! Awesome job by Chris and Bryan !

  • @_Forever555
    @_Forever555 3 года назад +4

    Awesome test, thank you. It gives us some perspective

  • @jhill92
    @jhill92 3 года назад

    Damn you guys always get me pumped to mod my F30! Most of your myth busts so far had the expected outcome but it's really nice to have some data from cars similar to your own.

  • @chubeecrypto9857
    @chubeecrypto9857 3 года назад +1

    I literally just had AWE axleback exhaust (w/black diamond tips just like yours), installed today 08/06 at Speedlogic in Fullerton. Cars is a 15' 435i xdrive GC. Car was already 400hp. It certainly felt a little faster. Now you have proved my butt dyno was correct. Great relevant content as usual.

  • @davec5237
    @davec5237 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for keeping it honest guys.👍👍

  • @jsnadrian
    @jsnadrian 3 года назад

    idk how but you guys make interesting bmw content that is both more informative and more wholesome than other channels. thanks a ton, from someone with a g20 who is still addicted to your f series content.

  • @antdiesel3
    @antdiesel3 3 года назад +3

    Great video and series. Always nice to see someone taking a scientific approach rather than providing opinions based on feels.

  • @arthurrivera09
    @arthurrivera09 3 года назад +1

    Love the vids !!!

  • @richardzarate5250
    @richardzarate5250 3 года назад +2

    Awesome iv been waiting to see some results and dyno runs for the gen 1 b58

  • @lindabenton1436
    @lindabenton1436 3 года назад +1

    Awesome content!

  • @arov235
    @arov235 3 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @mings5161
    @mings5161 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Maybe a video on how the dyno works and how it's setup might be beneficial. Might take care of some of the confusion in the numbers measured/expected 👍🤓

  • @EraBoyz
    @EraBoyz 3 года назад +1

    Chris seems like a jolly cool fella, nice video guys...

  • @dailydriven991
    @dailydriven991 3 года назад +4

    This testing series is awesome. I have the AWE axleback but am considering the midpipe as well for just a little more volume. No DP plans. I wonder if the AWE midpipe will add any more power on the dyno.

  • @f30sosa
    @f30sosa 3 года назад

    Nice video!

  • @ernestoduran5610
    @ernestoduran5610 3 года назад +1

    Second great video of a dyno tune on axle back exhaust. And most people think it does nothing or even loose horsepower

  • @stephenlozano2816
    @stephenlozano2816 3 года назад +32

    What about a muffler delete altogether? I’d like to see that one 👍🏼

    • @seanryan7896
      @seanryan7896 3 года назад

      It makes a difference on turbo cars

    • @N54-
      @N54- 3 года назад +1

      And straight pipe

    • @samflora7227
      @samflora7227 3 года назад

      Me too, been thinking about doing muffler delete for years but don’t want to sacrifice reliability

    • @ignaciojr.356
      @ignaciojr.356 3 года назад +21

      @@samflora7227 no car should break down with a muffler or a resonator delete...

    • @bigshooTer39
      @bigshooTer39 2 года назад

      @@samflora7227 lol

  • @TommyLGarage
    @TommyLGarage 3 года назад +8

    Solid gains for just a muffler! I wish I could upgrade my exhaust.
    Btw the stealth microphone setup is on point lol

    • @zacharytennant
      @zacharytennant 3 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @fabulousprofound
      @fabulousprofound 3 года назад

      Why can’t you? Local bylaws?

    • @Steveindajeep
      @Steveindajeep 3 года назад +1

      @@fabulousprofound i think thats sarcasm....hes changed it like 6? times hahaha

  • @pr0phet
    @pr0phet 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @JiuJitsuM4
    @JiuJitsuM4 3 года назад +1

    The dynapack at AutoTalent in LA generally runs the same as a Mustang Dyno.

  • @Philly_boost
    @Philly_boost Год назад

    I miss these videos and Chris! RiP brother

  • @gen13pinoy
    @gen13pinoy 3 года назад +3

    Brian please dyno f30 n20/26 bm3 stage 1 with stock dp? Seriously f30post forum doesn't have a single dyno of bm3 stage 1 gain. I 😅

  • @efthimios
    @efthimios 3 года назад

    Makes me feel good my 2011 335 xdrive made 270 whhp bone stock

  • @DirtyGarageTx
    @DirtyGarageTx 3 года назад

    Agreeded with Stephen Lozano yal should do a cat/res/muffler delete an see what kinda numbers are put out

  • @One_don2612
    @One_don2612 3 года назад +1

    Is the stock axle back exhaust for sale ? I am local
    Great video overall

  • @cryptojb1920
    @cryptojb1920 3 года назад

    Hi Brian, how's that f30 spacer video coming along? 😆

  • @RasoulMojtahedzadeh
    @RasoulMojtahedzadeh 3 года назад +2

    Could you please dyno test bootmod3?

  • @kevincastaneda24
    @kevincastaneda24 3 года назад +5

    Green and red truckers , getting some Mario and Luigi vibes here

  • @superscort57
    @superscort57 3 года назад +1

    Any videos on a G20 330i tests

  • @Fluke2SS
    @Fluke2SS 2 года назад

    I can save you almost 7 minutes. The answer is Yes. That said appreciate the testing done. I do have full exhaust all I need is the axle back to finish it.

  • @enternamehere______2193
    @enternamehere______2193 3 года назад +2

    Chris a cool dude

  • @piratehacker7025
    @piratehacker7025 Год назад

    My 320xi has high flow downpipe, upgraded intercooler and stock muffler with stage 2 bootmod and im pushing 320hp.

  • @robertalicea5585
    @robertalicea5585 3 года назад +2

    Can you do the same for a 9th gen V6 accord

  • @laucudal
    @laucudal 3 года назад +1

    I have a Remus on my bimmer and thats how much the company was claiming on the gains.

  • @SNeto67
    @SNeto67 3 года назад +2

    Hey guys love the channel very in informative, I would love to see a video comparing botmod, bummer code, and xhpflashtool what do they allow you to do for your bmw, what can or can't you use if your car is still stock, which is or will be a better option for us with no upgrades or which upgrades do you need to have in order to use the correct flash, there are a lot of questions I have because I'm not a car guy so I'm uncertain and uncomfortable with investing in one of these flash tools, and also I really want to go from and to red with the xhp but do I need to only purchase the rwd license and I can flash it or do I need to get the license and then purchase the rwd package? I need the help please.

    • @dylan-nguyen
      @dylan-nguyen 3 года назад

      Steven N55 bm3 is for hp/torque flash tune
      Bimmercode is to code car features or remove
      Xhpflash is for a transmission flash tune
      They don’t really overlap. Only thing that does bm3 has a tranny flash tune for some cars.
      If you want power bm3 is the only one that will give it to you. And probably the best money spent

  • @anthonypipia6990
    @anthonypipia6990 3 года назад

    Would you see similar numbers for an f32 n26 engine that’s tuned stage 1

  • @teezy_s
    @teezy_s 3 года назад

    would engine heat soak not play a part to " lower " gains by the time the 6th run is done ... ?

  • @gl5960
    @gl5960 Год назад

    is it possible to have a reduction in the initial acceleration by adding a freer flowing axle back exhaust?

  • @Steveindajeep
    @Steveindajeep 3 года назад +13

    I know you dont sell them anymore but id love to see a downpipe tested. Catted and Uncatted.

    • @jhill92
      @jhill92 3 года назад

      That would be a lot of work though. But yeah that would be very interesting.

    • @Specter1031
      @Specter1031 3 года назад

      Anyone know why they stopped selling them?

  • @jonburnquist
    @jonburnquist 3 года назад

    what about the deverter valve myth busting, stock vs gfb vs turbosmart

  • @ScottParisi
    @ScottParisi 3 года назад +10

    Kies: makes good content for my F83 and me
    Also Kies: gets a dyno
    Kies again: makes even better content
    Keep it up guys.

  • @nsflarna
    @nsflarna 3 года назад +2

    And here is why i prefer buying Bootmod3 through KiesMotorsports than through Protuningfreaks even though it's the same exact thing.... Trust

  • @chrisnegley
    @chrisnegley 3 года назад

    I need to see bootmod3 results

  • @lfsmith7
    @lfsmith7 3 года назад

    Pleeeeease test a downpipe in an f30 🙏🏽

  • @mattcoppola
    @mattcoppola 3 года назад +17

    Why is the horsepower on his 340 so low?

    • @toddpope2134
      @toddpope2134 3 года назад +4

      because factory HP/Torque numbers are at the crank not the wheels

    • @davids6263
      @davids6263 3 года назад

      @@toddpope2134 doesn't matter. It's been proven multiple times that the b58 is under rated by bmw. Most dynos show 330~ hp at the wheels. Theres something wrong with this particular engine.

    • @Specter1031
      @Specter1031 3 года назад

      @@davids6263 perhaps loss due to awd? I think the dynos charts are usually for rwd. Or maybe this dyno is calibrated really (I mean REALLY) conservative

  • @frankvizcarra9758
    @frankvizcarra9758 3 года назад

    I clicked link for muffler to buy and it has an error on landing page

  • @ricardojcjr
    @ricardojcjr 3 года назад +3

    Awesome series! Aren’t 340i’s supposed to come with a base of 320hp?? Sorry if it’s a dumb question.

    • @zacharytennant
      @zacharytennant 3 года назад

      They test to the crank, this test is to the wheels

    • @Anthony_G3027
      @Anthony_G3027 3 года назад

      Was just thinking the same thing

    • @92miata
      @92miata 3 года назад

      I think it’s due to 320hp measured at the engine but lower hp measured at the wheel.

  • @sosoapy8154
    @sosoapy8154 3 года назад +1

    What! That seems like n55s number to the wheel. I thought I would get 300 at least. You think its because x drive? But, still an insane engine. Just wished I had that that or n55

    • @xavir8002
      @xavir8002 3 года назад

      Some Ewg N55s make more than this

  • @twinb5840
    @twinb5840 3 года назад +6

    That’s weird amount of HP for the 340 I had mine on a dynojet stock it made 303-305 whp I’m xdrive too

  • @steevynovirus_f3099
    @steevynovirus_f3099 3 года назад

    Hold on I’m lost a 340i is making ONLY 277 horse power to the wheels that’s desapointing can someone please explain why a 365 horse power when down to only 277 horse power

  • @4thegood
    @4thegood 2 месяца назад

    RIP Chris

  • @OscarCastillo1
    @OscarCastillo1 3 года назад

    Don't you think larger fans are needed to feed the engine the proper rate of air flow? I see dynos with tiny fans in front and other with massive fans.

  • @ChevyFlora
    @ChevyFlora 3 года назад +5

    $1200 for a noise change and 8hp. no thanks. Glad to see yall are doing the dyno tests right! Love this series!

    • @TheFanatic340
      @TheFanatic340 3 года назад +1

      I bought it for the noise change. The cables dp was for power. Love the sound

    • @ErectileSceptile
      @ErectileSceptile 3 года назад

      Noise change is absolutely worth it, cars are so quiet these days. Also 8 hp is nothing to scoff at, it adds up. Could be the difference between 295-ish whp and breaching that 300 whp barrier.
      It's literally one of the power easiest mods you can do for a turbo car

    • @farrukhdada6688
      @farrukhdada6688 3 года назад

      @@TheFanatic340 Same here. bought it for noise but if it can add hp then its a plus..

    • @jeff8062
      @jeff8062 2 года назад

      BMW exhaust too expensive, should’ve bought a Honda

    • @carsonteeter302
      @carsonteeter302 Год назад

      @@jeff8062 pay to play if you don’t got money then don’t buy it

  • @rashad3286
    @rashad3286 3 года назад +2

    I've seen over forums and other videos stock 340 doing 320 to the wheels so what is going on here???

    • @ErectileSceptile
      @ErectileSceptile 3 года назад

      American dynos are pretty weird. Our numbers are definitely inflated lol

  • @valeriysyutkin4940
    @valeriysyutkin4940 3 года назад

    So M perfomance exhaust adds power🤔

  • @JoshNormandy
    @JoshNormandy 3 года назад +2

    BRYAN, PLEASE MAKE THE F30 SPACERS VIDEO!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE 🙏

  • @thejungatron6792
    @thejungatron6792 3 года назад +9

    Seems low for a stock b58 right? Cool nonetheless

    • @JL-di2ut
      @JL-di2ut 3 года назад

      Yeahhh dang it’s low but it still feels fast to me I guess🙄

    • @rexr9762
      @rexr9762 3 года назад +1

      The b58 in my X3 is making 382hp from the factory.

    • @TheFanatic340
      @TheFanatic340 3 года назад +2

      Its the all wheel drive

    • @anthonypipia6990
      @anthonypipia6990 3 года назад

      TheFanatic no lol it’s because it’s the wheel house not crank as advertised on commercials

    • @Specter1031
      @Specter1031 3 года назад

      @@anthonypipia6990 there is more drive line loss on awd as opposed to rwd

  • @alexjuarez4083
    @alexjuarez4083 3 года назад +3

    I thought a 340 made 320hp stock ???

    • @ACURACALABAR11
      @ACURACALABAR11 3 года назад

      I think to the wheel hp is different from to the crank hp. Marketing advertise the crank not the wheel

    • @rashad3286
      @rashad3286 3 года назад

      this is to the wheels, its 320 hp to the crank

  • @amccaughan02
    @amccaughan02 3 года назад +3

    No chance this is a 340i

  • @diogoprimo6021
    @diogoprimo6021 3 года назад

    277hp that very strange for a 340i normaly the 340i have ~326hp can you respond me why he have so low hp?? @kiesmotorsport

  • @Imunderpar4win
    @Imunderpar4win 3 года назад +2

    How is this 340 not hitting 300-325hp?

    • @griffin_kith6214
      @griffin_kith6214 Год назад

      That’s what I’m saying my stock 2015 335 dyno’d in at 308 wheel

  • @RoYaL3796
    @RoYaL3796 3 года назад +2

    Mario and Luigi

  • @andrei3720
    @andrei3720 3 года назад +2

    280hp? Isnt it too low? Dont bmw advertise this as 326hp if im not mistaken?

    • @zacharytennant
      @zacharytennant 3 года назад

      They claim that at the crank, not the wheels. This test is to the wheels

    • @Inventi0ns
      @Inventi0ns 3 года назад

      Yeah sounded low to me too. BMW claims the 340i comes with 320hp but that's at the crank. I was surprised though because I've heard claims that BMW underrated the car and it was actually making close to 320 at the wheels.

    • @Nekahplz
      @Nekahplz 3 года назад

      280 wheel horsepower to find crank HP which is what bmw advertises add +15%

    • @lordgibbness
      @lordgibbness 3 года назад

      At the wheels Vs crank I'd guess

    • @mings5161
      @mings5161 3 года назад

      326hp is supposed to be at the crank. The 280hp measured in the video is at the wheels. Measuring at the wheels will factor in drivetrain losses etc.

  • @jamcarz8982
    @jamcarz8982 3 года назад

    Do you not sell anything for an e92 n52 328i? You NEVER do any videos for them. I get it that not as many people modify those engines, cause it’s not as easy to gain power from those motors, but there are tons of us guys out here who still wanna modify our cars. Please do more videos for us reliable motor guys.

  • @unignostik
    @unignostik 3 года назад +1

    If you could do the intake next, along with the axel back (stock tune) that would be awesome! Think a lot of people get these two parts first (I did).
    edit: Chris is so cute no homo

  • @chrisgarret3285
    @chrisgarret3285 3 года назад

    You got a boost leak or something, too low