Cool video. I use this technique a lot. I've found that if the part you want to harmonize is repeated (say like the chorus) using a different "take" will accomplish what microshift is doing for you and sound a little better.
Thanks! Yeah if I have extra takes available, I would use that for tuning a harmony up! Sounds better for sure, this song doesn’t really have any repeats that would match up properly to be able to do that, but it is a good tip!
A lot of pop music makes the robotic harmony sound stick out like a sore thumb. It's just another effect. It can sound like convincing real harmonies in a mix with a few adjustments. Good videos!
Thanks mate! The fake harmonies are pretty darn good haha It’s a good tune! I’ve used it for a pop punk / easycore mix course which is on my online store ;)
@@spinlightstudios Im definitely going to check the store out thank you for the info, I am really rusty on my mixing after taking a 2 year break. Im so bad at recording good harmonies and deciding what to double track and what how many tracks I need for specific parts of the song. This should at least help me fix the harmony issue and thats a big one for me so I really appreciate this video.
Very cool. Subscribed to your channel, because you use Logic … . This video helps me a lot. Thanks very much! (… and, yes, ARA doesn‘t work with Ventura at the moment. Hope, they‘re going to fix it soon.)
Hey Mitch, yeah unfortunately is a third party plugin you have to buy - melodyne is pretty unbeatable for pitch correction. But you could try this with logics flex pitch possibly! I’m not sure it has the key snap feature though
I've had Melodyn for 12 years. Am I just sensitive or does melodyn sound so artificial and terrible that I don't understand why people use it? It sounds like synthetic and horrid, not like a person. I completely disagree that uneducated listeners don't notice. They might not consciously notice but their brain sure does. Can you imagine using this plugin on Karen Carpenter? That would be sacrilege. I can't wait until the music industry figures out how the individuality of the human voice is ANAILATED by melodyn and loses ALL the things that make voices moving to humans. There's not 1 memorable song I can name that uses autotune. It's inevitable, that fans will eventually demand authenticity and music will recover. I'm convinced this plugin has ruined commerical music. This is why Taylor Swift is #1 and most people can't name a spectacular singer under 30 years old.
I partly agree but ultimately it comes back to each project needing what it needs. Some people can’t sing harmonies but the track would benefit from using them. Maybe they don’t know any singers who could lay harmonies down, maybe they don’t have the budget to pay a session vocalist. Ultimately, it’s part of music production and it’s not going anywhere - if anything it’s becoming more widely used in cases just like this. You can still have the individuality of the lead vocal and some subtle harmonies tucked in the background. Ultimately the trick sounds better when you use a completely different vocal take as the timing and pitch are not exactly the same as the lead vocal - which does make it sound more artificial.
Cool video. I use this technique a lot. I've found that if the part you want to harmonize is repeated (say like the chorus) using a different "take" will accomplish what microshift is doing for you and sound a little better.
Thanks! Yeah if I have extra takes available, I would use that for tuning a harmony up! Sounds better for sure, this song doesn’t really have any repeats that would match up properly to be able to do that, but it is a good tip!
A lot of pop music makes the robotic harmony sound stick out like a sore thumb. It's just another effect. It can sound like convincing real harmonies in a mix with a few adjustments. Good videos!
For sure! It can sound pretty good when done right! Thanks
This is GOLDEN! Never thought about doing this!!
Definitely a good trick to pull out when the vocal production is lacking!
Very cool. Thank you. Another great video.
No problem! It’s a Very useful trick!
Thanks for this mate! I've always wanted to see how the pros do this. Melodyne vocal tuning tutorial next?
Thanks Edward! Yeah I could do a little run down on how I approach tuning :)
Wow, the quality of the fake harmonies are actually amazing. Also the song you are using to make the video on is absolutely amazing as well.
Thanks mate! The fake harmonies are pretty darn good haha It’s a good tune! I’ve used it for a pop punk / easycore mix course which is on my online store ;)
@@spinlightstudios Im definitely going to check the store out thank you for the info, I am really rusty on my mixing after taking a 2 year break. Im so bad at recording good harmonies and deciding what to double track and what how many tracks I need for specific parts of the song. This should at least help me fix the harmony issue and thats a big one for me so I really appreciate this video.
Glad to hear it was helpful man!
Song name? Great video btw! Very helpful
Omg! Tips!
Omg 😱
Very cool. Subscribed to your channel, because you use Logic … . This video helps me a lot. Thanks very much! (… and, yes, ARA doesn‘t work with Ventura at the moment. Hope, they‘re going to fix it soon.)
Thanks mate, glad you’re enjoying the content!
so what other ways can you make something from nothing? whether is drums vocals or guitars
thx u for that before watching this video my harmony in melodyne sound relly creepy and goofy but w/ ur video they sound perfect
Glad I could help!
Great Video bro
Thanks mate!
Hi Rhys, why doesn't my version of Logic pro have melodyne in the audio units? Is this something I have to purchase seperately?
Hey Mitch, yeah unfortunately is a third party plugin you have to buy - melodyne is pretty unbeatable for pitch correction. But you could try this with logics flex pitch possibly! I’m not sure it has the key snap feature though
Just drag a little Formant shift on the harmony voice....sounds much more natural without the chipmonk feel....I am sure you know that...❤
Good tip. Even if you randomize the timing slightly too adds to making it more “authentic”
Can this be done with Melodyn essential or do you need a more pro version?
You can do this with essential; even has the key snap. I use it for this all the time.
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I've had Melodyn for 12 years. Am I just sensitive or does melodyn sound so artificial and terrible that I don't understand why people use it? It sounds like synthetic and horrid, not like a person.
I completely disagree that uneducated listeners don't notice. They might not consciously notice but their brain sure does. Can you imagine using this plugin on Karen Carpenter? That would be sacrilege.
I can't wait until the music industry figures out how the individuality of the human voice is ANAILATED by melodyn and loses ALL the things that make voices moving to humans. There's not 1 memorable song I can name that uses autotune. It's inevitable, that fans will eventually demand authenticity and music will recover. I'm convinced this plugin has ruined commerical music. This is why Taylor Swift is #1 and most people can't name a spectacular singer under 30 years old.
I partly agree but ultimately it comes back to each project needing what it needs. Some people can’t sing harmonies but the track would benefit from using them. Maybe they don’t know any singers who could lay harmonies down, maybe they don’t have the budget to pay a session vocalist. Ultimately, it’s part of music production and it’s not going anywhere - if anything it’s becoming more widely used in cases just like this. You can still have the individuality of the lead vocal and some subtle harmonies tucked in the background. Ultimately the trick sounds better when you use a completely different vocal take as the timing and pitch are not exactly the same as the lead vocal - which does make it sound more artificial.