Should of re structured Pippens contract to lock him up more years then trade him after Jordan retires. Keep jackson until Jordan retires. End of story. Jordan wins 8 rings and loses his try for #9 then passes the tourch to Duncan.
I think we should just end all sports. Make those guys go get real jobs, not making $2 million a year, but instead making more like $2,000 a month! COVID-19 is saying “WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD FUCKERS!”
I clearly explained it. But you migguhs mesmerized by a light skinned chick with a decent comment. Please read what I posted and keep it moving! BJ is paid by the Bulls organization. At best, you hit it, leave. Come back, hit it again...run her through the shower. I give BJ Armstrong more credit than her. But I'm sure a SIMP will come to her rescue.
This is why you have to end well with your transcendent stars if you are an executive. Looks at the results over 20 years later. Top flight players are hesitant to play for the Bulls if they're not drafted there. They did it to MJ, Pippen, and Phil Jackson, what would they do to me? They ruined their relationship with the most marketable human being on earth, and now MJ is an owner for another team. Tragic.
Krause shld be given credit for putting those teams together but he also deserve blame for messing up the ending that had detrimental effect on the franchise for a long long time
Thank you BJ Armstrong, for setting them straight. All the people out here don't understand a winner wants and desire to keep winning. He's the greatest basketball player of all times Michael Jordan. Is undefeated in finals with two threepeats, and 6 finals MVPs. No other players in his levels and class. They have tried with so many players that never matched or had his ability to win with the very least of players. A great leader, teammate, trainer, motivator and the greatest defender, offensive skills in one player that won and raised the bar so high that no other players have come close to reaching his levels of game play.
Jordan should've gone to the Mavericks in 2000, just take the 99 season off and come back fresh. I think he would've won two titles with Dirk, Finley, Nash, Lafrentz. Rodman was there aswell, Also Howard Eisley and Hubert Davis were there.
If he was going to hop back in to contend for titles it would make the most sense if he jumped to the lakers where he could play with Shaq and for Phil. But he was just done by then. Still surprising that he came back to play for the wizards
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ... NO MATTER HOW MUCH ANIMOSITY WAS THERE AMONG BULLS' PLAYERS AND MANAGEMENT BUT THEY STILL STICKED TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS , UNLIKE TODAY'S NBA PLAYERS SWITCHING TEAMS LIKE WHENEVER THERE IS A GOOD DEAL.
They had a proven winning team and the league wasn't what it is today. If Scottie had the knowledge of todays players he would of left if he was getting paid his worth. Over 90% of those players finish their contract. Teams can drop a player without paying them the full amount they signed for when they have a better deal. So you are saying its okay for teams to do as they please but not players? Would you feel the same if your employer had control over you like that?
Reinsdorf really did come off as the "good guy" but that was a fair point...he was overseeing everything, checking off on everything, but he gets to deflect everything on Krause...i hadn't really put that thought together before... For me, I loved these Bulls teams, hated that Jordan came back and played for the Wizards...it was kinda legendary the way the Bulls originally ended...they "could" have won another, of course...but the way it ended was epic, imo
He gets off way too easily because if he simply chose to step in at the start of brewing problems over letting them fester for months and months just to the point of collapse before taking action he could’ve snuffed out a lot of the dramatics. Simply coming down on Krause for openly courting Tim Floyd, committing long term to Phil before the annual game of chicken, or simply not being stubborn about Scottie’s deal are all easy things he could’ve done well ahead of time that would’ve lessened the drama considerably. Sure Krause often was a huge piece of those issues but the buck always stopped with Reinsdorf and he continuously allowed things to run into the ditch before he’d finally jump in to prevent disaster. And at the end he tried again after letting the issues flow for an entire season and finally was turned down. Imagine if he’d simply stepped up right away the final year and said that Krause was wrong and that the door was open for Phil as long as he wanted to be the coach.
They were cheap. The owner was cheap. They never signed Grant, never paid Pippen, they never paid Jackson Should've signed Kemp in 97. Should've kept it together a few more years to see them go against Shaq, Kobe, Jones, Rice, Horry.
TBH if bulls paid scottie and phil each +$10mil per season! the organization it self would've probably made atleast %50 more than what they made after team broke up.
Man, listening to bj talk he is trying hard to stay out of the argument, but he knows more, i wish they would be up front. I know the old what happens on court stays on court, i feel sorry for krausse when mj mocks him, but i feel for mj he mustve felt trapped, the doco really highlighted the business side of things and even if youre the best these guys treated them like a number...i have more to comment but i have yo get ready for work. Bj armstrong aka the real artful dodger at answering questions lol
True. If they wanted to they could've gone to another team. I don't think they saw that as a choice back then. Mj .....pippen....Jackson.....whoever else could've gone to another team and kept rolling. Their choice.
Tangara Speedgoda If Jordan had the same amount of championships as Kobe or Lebron, I think the GOAT debate would be much more valid, it’s got to be Jordan because of 6 for 6 championships!
@@dylanunderpar Aboslutely not but that's what the media try to make people believe. Jordan had his goat status WAY BEFORE his 6 rings...in fact he had it even before he ever won a ring. The truth is individually speaking, neither Kobe or Lebron are on his level. And let me tell you something man...if Jordan was in Kobe's situation or Lebron's situation, he would have had more titles than Bill Russel. Jordan really took a team at the bottom and carried that team to the top. Jordan won 6 rings but, only 6 times his team was a contender in his career. Kobe won 5 times but his team was a contender 14 times. Why? From 1997 to 2004, the Lakers are a contender, that's 8. And then from 2008 to 2013, the Lakers are a contender. Now Lebron's team was a contender in 2007. Then people talk about Lebron being 3-6 in the finals but they forget that in 2009 and 2010, the Cavs were the favorite to represent the east against the Lakers in the finals and they had the best record in the whole league 2 years in a row. I don't even thing it ever happened for a team to have the best record in the league 2 years in a row and not even make the finals. Anyway... So from 2009 to 2018, Lebron played on a contender team. So, that's 12 opportunities Lebron had in his career. So the point is, give Jordan the opportunities that Kobe and Lebron had in their career and Jordan ends up with more titles than Bill Russel himself. Yet championchips are only a tie breaker when 2 players are close. It makes sense to look at rings to seperate Kobe and Lebron for example because individually it's very tough to decide who's better (even though I think it's Kobe). But Jordan is something else...and there are other players better than Lebron or Kobe that are just not talked about because there are not as popular.
You don't trade your mother after spending so much time with her. Krause knew nothing about family. The Bulls where successful...why trade pieces?! That is stupid ego.
Krause was actually the best thing for MJ's legacy because had he re-signed Phil and had Mike stayed on for, say, two more years, he might have lost in 99 to the Spurs and he surely would have lost in 2000 to the Lakers. It's because of Krause, MJ is 6-0.
@@Sheek888 actually, I've been watching playoffs since 1977 (before you were born?) and I said the Lakers would have beaten the Bulls in TWO THOUSAND. You know, the year they WON THE CHIP...
Why did Jerry reinsdorf paid mj 3 mil and then all of a sudden paid him 30 mil? 10x! That was 2x the next most expensive contract! And then later he complained! What was he thinking? 🤣 Anyway, now it looks like it is all worth it!
LeBron here building new relationships at 35 and over, and Michael didn’t want to?. Seems like Michael was not ready to play for a team that wasn’t a super team. The fact that he later went to play for the Wizards is indicative that he wasn’t done playing.
@@dorianmarchelgray5292 you can't compare a team sport with an individual sport. And last time i checked there is no one that say Floyd is the GOAT in boxing
Floyd jumping jack mayweather didn’t fight he just jumped around when he was in his prime he was boxing but towards the end dude become a bum never a GOAT
What are your thoughts on 'The Last Dance'?
The scottie pippen situation surprised me
I seen MJ get beat 1 on 1 by a man that wasn’t a professional!
@@ryanvickers7428 who?
Should of re structured Pippens contract to lock him up more years then trade him after Jordan retires. Keep jackson until Jordan retires. End of story. Jordan wins 8 rings and loses his try for #9 then passes the tourch to Duncan.
I think we should just end all sports. Make those guys go get real jobs, not making $2 million a year, but instead making more like $2,000 a month! COVID-19 is saying “WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD FUCKERS!”
One of the most underrated players of the 90s..beautiful pointguard who could assist and shoot! Left Chicago too soon.
When your team is winning chips, your mind should never be on rebuilding. The owner and GM were 1000% wrong!
BJ out here dancing 💃 like Usher.. Stop..
Shanique Chamberlaine lmao, hilarious. For real. Just give a straight answer.
Shanique Chamberlaine rite
BJ has stock in the Organization. He still receives a bag from them, although he is an agent. Of course he will not make a negative comment.
Dude out here shucking and jiving!
I clearly explained it. But you migguhs mesmerized by a light skinned chick with a decent comment. Please read what I posted and keep it moving! BJ is paid by the Bulls organization. At best, you hit it, leave. Come back, hit it again...run her through the shower. I give BJ Armstrong more credit than her. But I'm sure a SIMP will come to her rescue.
This is why you have to end well with your transcendent stars if you are an executive. Looks at the results over 20 years later. Top flight players are hesitant to play for the Bulls if they're not drafted there. They did it to MJ, Pippen, and Phil Jackson, what would they do to me? They ruined their relationship with the most marketable human being on earth, and now MJ is an owner for another team. Tragic.
That's why Wade wouldn't go there in his prime and LeBron along with Melo never truly considered it.
It's true that Jordan wanted to play a few more years. They should've kept the team together and brought in Shawn Kemp.
Yeah keep them all together it should’ve happened
N kukoc should’ve gotten more love
BJ is the right name with all that bulljive he talking.
I mean ... did he answer ONE question!
@@erikhopkins9488 Yeah! He answered why he isnt interviewed often! May get a call from dancing with the stars after dancing around all that.smh
BJ is an agent working with current owners. He ain't gonna snitch.
Exactly Dten, from his first sentence you knew.
The last dance was great in my eyes.
Krause shld be given credit for putting those teams together but he also deserve blame for messing up the ending that had detrimental effect on the franchise for a long long time
It was Reinsdorf's fault moreso.
Thank you BJ Armstrong, for setting them straight. All the people out here don't understand a winner wants and desire to keep winning. He's the greatest basketball player of all times Michael Jordan. Is undefeated in finals with two threepeats, and 6 finals MVPs. No other players in his levels and class. They have tried with so many players that never matched or had his ability to win with the very least of players. A great leader, teammate, trainer, motivator and the greatest defender, offensive skills in one player that won and raised the bar so high that no other players have come close to reaching his levels of game play.
BJ *answer the darn question* !!
Bj dance that question
Brandon Young being that he is a sports agent. He has to do it. Still I would have liked if he just said yes, it was a bad call from the front office.
For real... 🙄🙄
Jordan should've gone to the Mavericks in 2000, just take the 99 season off and come back fresh. I think he would've won two titles with Dirk, Finley, Nash, Lafrentz. Rodman was there aswell, Also Howard Eisley and Hubert Davis were there.
No
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If he was going to hop back in to contend for titles it would make the most sense if he jumped to the lakers where he could play with Shaq and for Phil. But he was just done by then. Still surprising that he came back to play for the wizards
Check out Tim Floyd’s interview on “off the bench”. Gives extra info on Krause and reinsdorf.
Thanks for suggesting, was quite an insightful interview
Why does Whitlock remind me of Proposition Joe from the Wire with that shirt on. Lol
MrCHITOWN247 haha I can kinda see it
Nah Prop Joe was smarter then all these dudes put together lol
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ... NO MATTER HOW MUCH ANIMOSITY WAS THERE AMONG BULLS' PLAYERS AND MANAGEMENT BUT THEY STILL STICKED TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS , UNLIKE TODAY'S NBA PLAYERS SWITCHING TEAMS LIKE WHENEVER THERE IS A GOOD DEAL.
They had a proven winning team and the league wasn't what it is today. If Scottie had the knowledge of todays players he would of left if he was getting paid his worth.
Over 90% of those players finish their contract. Teams can drop a player without paying them the full amount they signed for when they have a better deal. So you are saying its okay for teams to do as they please but not players?
Would you feel the same if your employer had control over you like that?
Reinsdorf really did come off as the "good guy" but that was a fair point...he was overseeing everything, checking off on everything, but he gets to deflect everything on Krause...i hadn't really put that thought together before...
For me, I loved these Bulls teams, hated that Jordan came back and played for the Wizards...it was kinda legendary the way the Bulls originally ended...they "could" have won another, of course...but the way it ended was epic, imo
He gets off way too easily because if he simply chose to step in at the start of brewing problems over letting them fester for months and months just to the point of collapse before taking action he could’ve snuffed out a lot of the dramatics. Simply coming down on Krause for openly courting Tim Floyd, committing long term to Phil before the annual game of chicken, or simply not being stubborn about Scottie’s deal are all easy things he could’ve done well ahead of time that would’ve lessened the drama considerably. Sure Krause often was a huge piece of those issues but the buck always stopped with Reinsdorf and he continuously allowed things to run into the ditch before he’d finally jump in to prevent disaster. And at the end he tried again after letting the issues flow for an entire season and finally was turned down. Imagine if he’d simply stepped up right away the final year and said that Krause was wrong and that the door was open for Phil as long as he wanted to be the coach.
True.
The truth is Jerry Krause ego was bigger than the franchise including Michael Jeffrey Jordan ego
Cmon BJ, don’t go on sports media cause your obviously still on the Bulls payroll and you need to eat.
You're right if Phil Jackson would have stay everybody would have stay point blank discussion is over
Great points from BJ & Wiley. Whitlock sound like a fanboy.
The franchise was not cheap, it was personal for Krause
They were cheap. The owner was cheap. They never signed Grant, never paid Pippen, they never paid Jackson Should've signed Kemp in 97. Should've kept it together a few more years to see them go against Shaq, Kobe, Jones, Rice, Horry.
They was cheap let's be real
TBH if bulls paid scottie and phil each +$10mil per season! the organization it self would've probably made atleast %50 more than what they made after team broke up.
The commentator on the left is smart.
Man, listening to bj talk he is trying hard to stay out of the argument, but he knows more, i wish they would be up front. I know the old what happens on court stays on court, i feel sorry for krausse when mj mocks him, but i feel for mj he mustve felt trapped, the doco really highlighted the business side of things and even if youre the best these guys treated them like a number...i have more to comment but i have yo get ready for work. Bj armstrong aka the real artful dodger at answering questions lol
BJ must still be on the payroll for the Bulls. Smh tell the truth
Bj Armstrong with the ultimate give away in the end, with that's probably why and how it ends
BJ dancing around the question like he still work for the Bulls front office
Chicago in 98 was looking to trade Scottie for young Tracy. With him Chicago would have won one more championship.
Baby Face AKA BJ Armstrong still looks the same.
BJ look his age stop it
I understand what MW is saying but I totally disagree. MJ was gonna win at any cost regardless of who the GM was.
Cmon BJ answer the question !!! Haha
Why is the guy in the left acting like he know everything?
Jordan wanted to play few more years!
True. If they wanted to they could've gone to another team. I don't think they saw that as a choice back then. Mj .....pippen....Jackson.....whoever else could've gone to another team and kept rolling. Their choice.
He should of went to another team. He was a free agent. And won another ring out of spite. He could of gone to the Spurs.
rebar33 to knicks.
$6 million was a lot for a coach then. The fact is, they all achieved greatness, and were a bit burned out by the time it ended.
6 championships
It’s a sports show and Whitlock is out here trying to look presidential.
A lot of people/teams beat Jordan, they just didn’t attain the amount of championships & other personal accolades that he did...
A lot of people/teams beat the Bulls....Jordan was still shinning as the best player by far.
Tangara Speedgoda If Jordan had the same amount of championships as Kobe or Lebron, I think the GOAT debate would be much more valid, it’s got to be Jordan because of 6 for 6 championships!
@@dylanunderpar Aboslutely not but that's what the media try to make people believe.
Jordan had his goat status WAY BEFORE his 6 rings...in fact he had it even before he ever won a ring.
The truth is individually speaking, neither Kobe or Lebron are on his level.
And let me tell you something man...if Jordan was in Kobe's situation or Lebron's situation, he would have had more titles than Bill Russel. Jordan really took a team at the bottom and carried that team to the top. Jordan won 6 rings but, only 6 times his team was a contender in his career.
Kobe won 5 times but his team was a contender 14 times. Why? From 1997 to 2004, the Lakers are a contender, that's 8. And then from 2008 to 2013, the Lakers are a contender.
Now Lebron's team was a contender in 2007. Then people talk about Lebron being 3-6 in the finals but they forget that in 2009 and 2010, the Cavs were the favorite to represent the east against the Lakers in the finals and they had the best record in the whole league 2 years in a row. I don't even thing it ever happened for a team to have the best record in the league 2 years in a row and not even make the finals. Anyway...
So from 2009 to 2018, Lebron played on a contender team. So, that's 12 opportunities Lebron had in his career.
So the point is, give Jordan the opportunities that Kobe and Lebron had in their career and Jordan ends up with more titles than Bill Russel himself.
Yet championchips are only a tie breaker when 2 players are close. It makes sense to look at rings to seperate Kobe and Lebron for example because individually it's very tough to decide who's better (even though I think it's Kobe).
But Jordan is something else...and there are other players better than Lebron or Kobe that are just not talked about because there are not as popular.
@@tangaraspeedgoda7436 Very good explanation. Very good.
You don't trade your mother after spending so much time with her. Krause knew nothing about family. The Bulls where successful...why trade pieces?! That is stupid ego.
BJ must still work for the Bulls he still dancing around the question
Episode 7 was the best. when BJ was asked if MJ was a nice person. MJ's reaction was hair raising.
Marcellus only person not being a Jordan groupie and being fair..
well why couldn’t jerry make another elite team then 🤷🏿♂️
He was 35ys old. Get it right.
Lol I dnt agree with Jason much but he was dead in about this
*"When is HE going to stop?"
Krause was actually the best thing for MJ's legacy because had he re-signed Phil and had Mike stayed on for, say, two more years, he might have lost in 99 to the Spurs and he surely would have lost in 2000 to the Lakers. It's because of Krause, MJ is 6-0.
You're forgetting that Phil Jackson coached the Lakers in 2000. If he resigned with the Bulls the Lakers would have a different coach in 2000.
@@Sheek888 You're forgetting the Lakers had prime Shaq and almost prime Kobe in 2000. You don't actually believe 37 year old Mike beats them, do you??
@@uncletony6210 guess you didn't watch the 1999 playoffs when the Lakers got swept lol
@@Sheek888 actually, I've been watching playoffs since 1977 (before you were born?) and I said the Lakers would have beaten the Bulls in TWO THOUSAND. You know, the year they WON THE CHIP...
Actually, a lot of teams beat Michael Jordan's teams...for the first half of his career. Kareem was a greater winner.
Major Allen Espy the first time Kareem didn’t have Oscar or Magic he lost to Bill Walton and the Blazers.Always had great teammates unlike Jordan.
@@Ninjersey1 exactly, Jordan didnt have a real running mate until year 6 or 7
Why did Jerry reinsdorf paid mj 3 mil and then all of a sudden paid him 30 mil? 10x!
That was 2x the next most expensive contract!
And then later he complained! What was he thinking? 🤣
Anyway, now it looks like it is all worth it!
Krause 0ppg 0rpg 0apg whatsoever. But he ended the Bulls dynasty, dawg! Wazzup!!?
Once again i agree with Whitlock. Not trying to be bigoted but i have seen over and over wealthy Jewish folks be cheap. its in the blood.
LeBron here building new relationships at 35 and over, and Michael didn’t want to?. Seems like Michael was not ready to play for a team that wasn’t a super team. The fact that he later went to play for the Wizards is indicative that he wasn’t done playing.
Jordan never joined a super team to win championships...
Albert Caval, if you don’t think Jordan’s teams were super teams you should really go back to sleep.
How many of Jordan’s ex teammates are hall of famers today? That’s how you know.
MJ grew tired. Came back out of boredom. Was a shadow of himself.
This man still avoiding question lol
Not ur money, so not in ur place to tell Jerry reinsdorf what to do!
He know looks old enough to have a drink legally !.
that's why no more bull hahah
Please dont invite this this dude on no more because all BJ did is dance around the facts
Mj overrated Bron does way more w less than Jordan ever could explains those first rd exits without pippen
Whitlock lose some weight
Whitlock never won anything. Why are talking to him anyway
Phillip Jackson it’s his show idiot
I actually typed wrong. I meant wiley
Nah. Noone beat Floyd Mayweather. The pistons beat Jordan. The magic beat Jordan
Maybeweather often fought out of prime bums. So his perfect record isn't as impressive as u think
I typed Mayweather never lost. Period. No one beat him. However it happened
@@dorianmarchelgray5292 you can't compare a team sport with an individual sport. And last time i checked there is no one that say Floyd is the GOAT in boxing
Floyd jumping jack mayweather didn’t fight he just jumped around when he was in his prime he was boxing but towards the end dude become a bum never a GOAT
@Kenneth Erickson so lebron is a one hit wonder?