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I don't know why everyone takes the demon at his word. The demon is definitely real and he definitely can be lying to her (and mixing it in with truths like the best liars, which I would expect a demon to be).
@@XMacheteDid you catch the part when Gaap showed Nida the apocalypse and made the statement about the smell of humans being like burgers on the grill? I believe that they drop a little truth in these movies/shows and for some time it has been said that we are being fed human meat in ground meat form. I must've rewind that part a dozen times. Just to make sure that i heard what i heard.
I don't think it's the same universe. If that was the case then we wouldn't have episodes based in the future due to the nuclear war. Plus, it would have meant that Nida would have been hallucinating this whole time if it was in the same universe. However, if the nuclear war did happen, then it would be parallel universes, which explains why she could have seen into the future when Gaap showed him the Michael Smart visions.
I loved how she wore a red leather jacket at the end, and Gaap was in white with puffy feathered sleeves resembling angel wings. Initially, she was innocent and almost angelic with innocence, while he was the devil/demon. It felt like the role of the devil switched once she adorned the leather jacket. Once a demon starts objecting to your actions, you know you've gone down the darkest path. In a sense, Gaap offered her a spot with him in oblivion, like an alternative heaven for just the two of them. I wish they had fleshed out the relationship between the two more. She was attracted to the singer, but developing their chemistry would have made the ending more satisfying.
He only started “objecting her actions” because if she killed him then she would have stopped him from killing so many more people because he was a corrupt politician. So your point doesn’t make sense lol
it’s sort of funny because when he was written as a funny and “lovable” demon but he says at the beginning that he’s also a liar. So if you think about him in that context, he might be a lot more devious with unknown intentions. Which makes a second viewing of the episode a little more intriguing.
Yup. But it makes sense though. Gaap wasn't actually trying to be a part of the crowd, he was just trying to escape an eternity in Oblivion. But at least he found Nida :)
I’m surprised nobody mentioned the song “ Rasputin“ by Boney M.… Rasputin was a human, but he eventually became to be seen as a witch or a demon, because he could heal people, and when they tried to assassinate him, he wouldn’t die.
But what the show got wrong is that in reality the black Boney M guy does not sing at all though ... he was just a dancer hired to perform alongside the female singers of the group, the male vocals of Boney M was sung by the producer himself ...
So, going to summarize what we know from this episode. 1. Gaap is an actual demon name lifted from old texts, listed as a prince of hell. 2. Gaap lies, by his own admission. 2. Laura is the actual name of the daughter of the first victim. 3. The novel Smiley's people is from 1979 and deals with a spy hiding his unstable daughter in a mental facility under a false identity. She's telling her handlers the truth which no one believes because they think she's insane. She's just the macguffin of the novel which is really about a struggle between two old spies. Just based on above, we can conclude Gaap is real since his existence isn't something we see that she would have a way to have knowledge of, and since he gives her knowledge the show independently confirms for us. The novel is the easter egg to let us know she's unstable but not psychotic. But Gaap being real doesn't mean that everything we see is real, because Gaap is a demon and Gaap lies. My theory: Gaap is actually a prince in hell who once the talisman received anointing, was able to convince this woman to invite him. At that point she was doomed. He assumed a form to disarm her, then proceeds to corrupt her in order to claim her soul. He lied about armageddon but does tell her the truth about people while enticing her to murder them. At the end, he lies a final time to get her to surrender herself to him completely. It's actually wild watching not a single reviewer consider this possibility. They all are either on the "all an hallucination" or "all true" trains, but neither of those conclusions work.
@@cazzyatkins6740 exactly! Another note I’d made was that his scenario doesn’t make sense: demon from hell helping human stop Armageddon as part of an initiation and if he fails he’s banished into nothingness? Ehhh, ok Gaap.
I'm glad I came across this possibility! It actually makes a lot of sense. Like with the talisman only having 2 lines left before she reset it. Wouldn't that mean the last person failed and the world wouldve been doomed already? It really does point to everything being real and that Gaap is a huge scammer.
This feels better than the most hyped and popular breakdown. Not fond of the need to unpack things so much that what is originally intended to be received becomes completely vacated. The one facet that the aforementioned breakdown doesnt account for is how none of her hallucinations have an effect on what others see and react to. Her killing are very real just as the apocalypse is. The biggest easter egg is, the episode is literally over after everyone witnesses and reacts to the apocalypse.
I really enjoy the "Red Mirror" concept and kind of would love to see it expanded like American Horror Stories. I feel like Charlie Brooker is onto something with season 6 having more horror undertones
I think a lot of people missed the twist on this one. As others stated I think both Gaap is real but also the apocalypse is fake since there was already one line missing in the talisman meaning someone already failed but the world is still there. Also since Gaap could see the future he knew she would fail, and consequently he knew that the world wouldn't end so his mission all along was just to seem friendly and make it seem like everything was lost just so that she would accept giving up her soul. There's also the fact that if this episode is set in the same universe as the others then clearly the world didn't end... Doesn't really make sense being in her head since she's given real information that we see reflected in other episodes. What makes this episode so great is that they made the girl give herself to an abusive liar demon seem really cute and people fell for it, but there was no relationship at all... He was just fooling her to get her soul, come on guys what do demons do? What about this premise of demon and human teaming up to stop the apocalypse? Bonkers Also that scene where he calls someone to get the rules? Okay... that seemed explicitly fishy, at least for me... We know he can control what she sees based on the visions he gave her so he could have been much more scary and horror-like if he wanted but I guess it's just easier being the "friendly" ghost as we saw. Could also be that he exploits people's weaknesses and her, being surrounded with racism and apathy by most people, just wanted a friend or some company and he became that for sure... Guess who fell for the devil's trick just because he seemed friendly?
I don't think the end of the world means literally end of human race, it simply means an apocalyptic event of world wide destruction that leaves the world in widespread chaos and devastation where the human population would be greatly reduced but not necessarily fully annihilated... I think the things that happen are not her imagination but a multiverse thing where how the world progress depends on the devil's interfering manipulation of someone like her ... there must have been many alternate realities thats happened before thats why the devil has knowledge everyone's futures as those same lives has played out before in another alternate parallel universe ... My view is that the devils are trying to manipulate events to guide the world to another kind of reality of their preference. You see, the nuclear devastation that the devil is trying to avoid happening is not necessarily worse than what the world would be if the nuclear disaster did not happen ... there has to be something worse than a nuclear disaster if the devils are to succeed (yes, they are evil as can be seen by how they would prefer she does not murder the racist politician) ... Black Mirror's universe is probably a multiverse, multi- parallel realities type of existence ... remember an earlier episode with the space astronauts in the 1960s with advanced technology of being able to transfer their minds to inhabit a physical replica of themselves on earth while they are in outer space ... thats not based on our reality's 1960s technology, so its like an alternate reality parallel universe to ours ...
I totally loved this episode because as a 54 year old black east Londoner, the period felt so real. It was everything from the fear of nuclear holocaust, the casual and blatant racism, the NF graffiti everywhere including school children putting NF on their school books! (so common I tended to ignore it!) the dreary colours and fashion, the 1979 election, strikes and of course the great music! I could go on and on. Smart sounded like Nigel Farage (brexit leader) to me, which was funny as I saw him at the cricket (Lords) at England V Ireland game recently!
@@El-wt3hn National Front. It was a British far right group, who used to call for repatriation for ethnic minorities etc. Not sure if they're still going but it's probably morphed into something else.
Yep Cus it was like 3 bad news clippings and the last one was a parade or sumin successful and positive In the town so previous store worker prolly completed his mission
@@AllegraDayo how do you explain the talisman only having 2 lines left before she reset it? The previous person, whether it was Mr Posset or not, wouldve failed the objective and the world wouldve already been doomed, no? Unless.... Maybe Gaap is a scamming ass demon.
When Gaap shows her visions her eyes look like the grain from the entire history of you, she is in a white bear prison, also they show that same symbol several times, the one that looks like an squared upside down Y
Maybe this is what we do with mentally ill in BM universe. Let them live out their delusion and spend eternity in a white bear prison but one they seemingly chose. If they start showing signs of recovery pull them out I guess.
Anyone know why past Black Mirror episodes are based on technology, but season 6 gave us Werewolves, Serial Killers and Demons? Lost at Sea and Joan is Aweful are the only two that stuck to the Black Mirror technology theme.
@pingu-fo6xi well then the werewolf and demon episodes had “technology” too-cameras and television. Just bc they aren’t new to us now, they still count and were relevant to the era of the stories
I thought this was the best episode of this season, the black comedy, the social commentary etc, and a satisfying ending. I liked the way that what seems logical to us following her journey seems absolutely bonkers when she recounts it in the police interview.
i don’t think it’s a question of whether it was going to happen or not, but a question of whether nida was imagining that she could stop it. the threat was always there. they talked about it on the tv and nida would always change the channel
@@lepterfirefall But there's episodes that take place after the "robot dogs" wipe out humanity too. So there can be multiple contradictory futures that partially overlap and are all still true within the Black Mirror/Red Mirror MULTIverse. Nida never had a real-time hallucination involving other people unless she was present there herself with them. The cops seeing the nukes was real OUTSIDE of Nida's mind. They saw what happened exactly like she warned them. If the nukes launched exactly as Midnight like she predicted, they wouldn't start scorching London until a few minutes afterwards anyway. Nida & Gaap called it exactly how it went....for real. The episodes tries to trick you by giving clues about her psychotic mental illness and overimagination to keep you second-guessing all the way up until the end when it does a total bait and switch at the very last scence. The cops seeing the nukes without Nida standing with them confirms: Surprise! It WAS real.
It's a mind experiment, in the future, to see what it takes to make a person kill. She's in a virtual reality that makes it look like the 70's when she is really in the future with some thing attached to her head.
Its not imaginary, its just an alternate reality that exists in an alternate tangent universe among many ..... in short, its a multiverse thing. The devil is able to show her the futures of the people around her because those lives have played out before in the original time line reality ..... now the devils are trying to guide the reality onto a different (probably worse and more evil) path ... The thing is that a nuclear disaster is not necessarily the worst outcome if it did not happen, perhaps there will be more terrible outcomes than that of a nuclear disaster .....
The main character should have realized that there was always a way "out" by not doing what the demon asked and letting everyone die. She should have understood that since demons exist then that means that God and heaven exists aswell. Chosing not to kill anyone means that she perserves her morality and goes into heaven. This was her way out. Instead, the demon won in the end by breaking her moral compass and convincing her that living an eternity in hell was better than heaven
That’s my take on it, she could have preserved her innocence and went out with the rest of the world. She agreed to nothingness just to skip the pain of the fire
To me the stuff that she imagined doing to her collage dont seem like hallucinations, to me it looks like she was just imagining how good it would feel to do it. I like to think that everything that we saw was real and she is with gaab at the end, the whole time i feelt like they were into each other! I was watching the episode with my finace and i was like omg what a cute ending and he looked at me like i was crazy 😂😂 did anybody else find that the ending has cute energy?
I like the subtle undertone of her justifying her murders because a charismatic figure convinced her certain groups people needed to die to save their world from an existential threat.
**minor spoiler** I'm really surprised you didn't link the ending of this to the world of Metalhead (S4E5). It literally walks you right into it. Smart is the guy who starts the manufacturing of the robot dogs and Metalhead takes place in an apocalyptic future that (we now know) is caused by this one slip up. Happy to discuss any rebuttals.
I think Nidas body stayed on earth. She was tricked by a daemon for her soul. Her soul went with Gaap into oblivion. However, her vessel stayed and is now empty. Locked up in some psych ward. Or playing as npc controlled by the gate keepers. I love black mirror. Please do more videos like this. I love them. I'd love to see your take on the episode "hang the d.j." thank you. 🎉
What a fantastic freaking episode. This is what you call television mind candy. Throwing everything at the wall and it stick. I hope I can find a breakdown of this episode on RUclips because my words won't do it justice. From the music soundtrack, the 2 leads, the cast, the setting; loved every element of it. Nida could have easily been a serial killer's victim she was so small and mouse like but she had a raging demon inside. It seem like she was about to be swallowed up by life until she took control and became the actual killer. I love the politician Michael Smart who give out big time Damien from the Omen vibes and a matching Dead Zone type possible future. By far the best Black Mirror episode in years #BlackMirror #demon79
There's something to this Michael Smart guy. Gaap said the demons wouldn't like it if she killed him. We'll probably hear more about him in future seasons.
I think it’s because Smart would be a great influence in the future. Gaap mentioned himself that because his future shows “death and war” he would be a great evil prospect of the future. I think the symbol of his campaign are shown in other episodes from other seasons that are already in the future so to speak, as well as being the symbol of the talisman. Either he’s been working for an evil entity all this time or he’s going to in a future time. That’s why I think they don’t want Nida to mess with him and also I think Nida had been hallucinating all that time or If the Nukes happened, Smart was notified of the latter and was able to save himself somehow. You know how “governments” have bunkers everywhere for specific people and situations…
I totally agree. And I can attest to how all of what transpired just happened inside Nida's mind. I had my own share of this. All those little imagery and words we encounter in our day to day lives can overwhelmingly take over our dreams as normal beings. What more if you have a lingering mental illness? In my case, I had severe depression few years back and had imagined things while I was fully awake and conscious. I only realized those imagery were products of my imagination afterwards. Our minds are scary...
I hope Nida went with Gaap into oblivion, just bc he was so dang cool. I really must say, after what I thought was a lacklustre season 5 and the irredeemable horror that was Bandersnatch (IMHO), Black Mirror has made a course correction and returned to form. I enjoyed season 6 very much, with Demon 79 being my favourite out of all the episodes offered. If they can keep it up, I hope we get a season 7!!
The Three Crowns Pub has address number 2426. 2+4=6. 4+2=6 and 6. 666. It's also clever that the Pub is named "Three Crowns" as reference to the Catholic Papal Tiara - which has three tiers of crowns. Each tier represent the realms of existence: Human, Celestial, Terrestrial realms. (Side tidbit: The Papacy historically has been known for its three forces: Religious, Military, Political - themes of the episode).
You can only show the delussion of a character through his or her point of view. When we see the bombs falling from the point of view of everyone else its implied its real.
But that ending scene with those police's perspective lasted for few seconds they didn't have the long conversation, she might be imagining from her perspective coz she couldn't see what was happening, she was handcuffed and her room doesn't have windows.
I liked that the plot twist in this episode was actually the fact that there is no plot twist in this episode because all I've been thinking about while watching the episode was "what would be the final plot twist that breaks my mind?" but actually no plot twist broke my mind
Also should be noted the song he was singing "Rasputin' was written about TGrigori Rasputin, a friend and advisor of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and his family during the early 20th century.
worth mentioning...if you noticed the first line of the first & last song playing in this episode "Is it a kind of dream?"... everything that happened could be because of the power of the 'mind' or could just be 'all in her mind'. The line on that song, the book she's reading titled "Creative Visualization" prior to all this, the anger hallucinations affirming she has a lot of things going on her mind, her mother being mentioned having mental illness... (plus other clues) it was all put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? i think that's the appeal of this episode.. you may think either way and it's open for one's own interpretation... it talks about the power of the mind.. is there really an untouched part of our mind that can manifest reality, summon a demon or even predict the future? (mind being a human part thats been studied over and over but still cannot be fully comprehended by technology up to this day). i do believe that's the objective of this episode... (your own take like bandersnatch).... Is it like a dream/imagination? or is it a 'reality' driven by unknown capabilities of the mind (unexplored from old times even to the latest technology today)... id still go with the demon and the apocalypse being ALL IN HER MIND... But in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
Sure, but are we supposed to be impressed or have some new revelation by is it “all in her mind” as the premise? It’s been done before, and quite frankly if you’ve seen it once you’ve seen it a thousand times.
@@ALLrobotsAreSad hence the way it was executed, all those clues "Is it like a dream?" song, "Creative Visualization" book, the visuals after the clock hit 12 when the detective was outside all of a sudden, "the mental state of her mother", Nida's anger hallucination... it was put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
@@travelandfamily Sorry, I’m not trying to be obnoxious with you, but imo that whole “clever” filmmaking thing of like look at all these little ambiguous puzzle clues sprinkled throughout the show is so masturbatory, you know what I mean? Anyway, it seems that you actually like it so I’ll stop bothering you with my rants. ✌️
As someone who as been in psychosis twice, the mind can truly manifest its own "reality" if pushed to it. When I was in psychosis I truly believed I had spiritual witch-like abilities and what not. It's crazy how fragile the mind can be. Turns out adhd and its link to dopamine makes me a wonderful fine line away from schizophrenia 😭
Before you say it in the video my theory as to why there’s only one line missing from the talisman when she finds it is because possets, the founder of the shoe store and the previous owner of the talisman, couldn’t bring himself to kill anyone which is why he killed himself, which in turn counted as a murder and took one of the lines away. I’m sure you’re going to say this also but wanted to see if I’m right 😂
True because the demon he had probably didn’t take a form like Gaap did so it could run crazy if you see it was one murder that’s store owner or if he killed 3 ppl not knowing that they already where killer he killed himself because it was all got nothing he still have this demon on his back do he kill himself or pray away the demon but didn’t get rid of the stuff
If GAAP could see the future then he knew that Nida wasn’t gonna be successful so maybe his plan from the start was to take her soul and the world didn’t end.
i believe this as well. he is a demon so they have no reason to *really* stop the apocalypse. maybe they wanted him to corrupt someone/to increase the number of evil people on earth. also, i don’t think it’s necessarily *the* future. i think he’s just able to simulate events.
or, since he’s new, it could be that he only has access to certain events so truthfully he didn’t know whether nida would fail or not. he only has access to certain contingencies
@Mary-pt8jmI think the nuclear Holocaust was just her hallucination. Those robot dogs exist in the distant future, after Michael Smart became PM and ruined everything. In short scene, there is a news headline that says it was he who issued those robot dogs to be used in public.
This was my favorite episode out of the entire series. I love it how Nida's eyes turn gray just like when people put on thise head tab to play games in season 5. I love how Gaap looks at himself in the TV instead of a mirror. I think seeing the world BEFORE tech took over proves that people are the ones that complicate A LOT of things. Also kinda cool to see demons real, meaning there must be some angels out there too.
I just think it was all in her imagination as simple as that sounds bc of the visualization book she was reading. The killings did happen but the demon was a figment of her imagination .
You really need to listen what Gaap says and observe what he does: 1) Turning himself into her favourite singer to seduce her trust 2) "Murderers don't count." 3) "They won't be happy if you'd kill Michael Smart." 4) Unbothered by failed mission All these points reveal that Gaap is lying/ hiding things from Nida. If Nida killed Smart, many bad things won't happen and the demons won't be happy with it. = demons want bad things to happen. So why does Gaap bother to prevent WWIII? Answer: He doesn't. The Apocalypse thingy was a lie. Why don't murderers count?? Because they'll go to hell anyways. And Gaap didn't seem quite bothered when he is about to go to eternal oblivion. Why? Because he will not stay there for eternity. But Nida will. That was what it was all about. He lied and pressured her to kill in order to get her soul into oblivion (hell). And for the last scene with the dropping bombs - it was probably one of Nidas halucinations to make her actions more justifyable for herself. What do you think of my theory?
Genuinely loved this episode so so so much. I though gaap the demon was such an awesome character. And that ending? It’s perfect the way they make you think she’s just crazy just for it to all come true. Her and garb going together to continue their friendship. Such a fitting ending
The other possibility is that Nida is imagining all of this since her mother suffered from mental issues. Nina had vivid hallucinations and the Three newspaper articles with a man dying in a fire, man crushed by a wall and a woman disappearing resembling 3 deaths. The Demon Gaap also resembles the dancer Boney M she saw on TV before he appeared.
@@serenesoundstation5320No, not really. The police and the other lady thought she was crazy but they saw for themselves what she was saying was true. They ended up in flames.
Maybe it was mentioned in the last upload, but @ 5:56, the Three Crowns and the 24*26 on the pub building may allude to the biblical verse of Luke 24:26, where it references the Three Crowns of Jesus - King, Priest, and Prophet, and the three temptations of Christ. Disregard if this was mentioned elsewhere. :D
they're not hallucinations, people don't just hallucinate for 4 seconds and then go back to normal with no reaction and a smile on their face. She was consciously fantasizing, hence the book she was reading. She does however react very strongly to the things that actually happened, which indicates to me that she could tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
Weirdly enough, I just fall for the whole thing and find the apocalypse ending wholesome by Black Mirror standard, eternal oblivion and all. Sometimes you just want to see the world burn with all the mistreatment I guess.
After watching the whole season I just realized that the Demon 79 episode is really in her head due to the many Easter eggs we come across throughout the season especially for Michael Smart, news paper articles and StreamBerry as references for the Prime Minister. Otherwise he wouldn't have been a PM had there been a nuclear war at the end of the episode. Edit: Or it could be a multiverse saga?😂😂
I loved it this really felt like the quality of great story’s we get from black mirror. Maybe because it felt charcter driven. I wish I could of seen more but still happy It happened. That’s the feeling black mirror does best. Not living to become a villain. Ending young and beautiful not overdone which is how the other episodes felt. They where 20 minutes episodes dragged into hour long nothingness.
This was the most Black Mirror episode cause the more you analyze it the more you can go either way with it really happening as a Black mirror way or it all being in her head like in a black mirror way lol
When Nida found the talisman, there were only two lines on it. Once Gaap starts explaining, he talks about three lines on the talisman (3 murders), which we can also see on the talisman. The question is why there were only two lines the moment Nida took the Talisman - shouldn't the world have ended earlier ? ( because as it is mentioned in this video - it could mean that " owner" of the talisman before Nida failed, but the last owner was Mr. Possett....
I think the person who had it before only needed two kills. Each person that bonds with the talisman adds another line. After Nida there would’ve been four lines. That’s just my theory.
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0:55 - Yes, Bright Eyes was a song written for Watership Down, the 1978 animated film but you got the meaning wrong. It is essentially an exploration of the concept of death and ties in with Demon 79 even better than you supposed it does.
my interpretation was that the entirety of black mirror was a “could be” like how gaap could see the future as it was before something happened (like seeing that laura killed herself at 28, and then her future changed after her dad died), so this episode voided the entirety of the series because the world ended. so none of the events in the black mirror universe happened because the world ended before it could. my theory only really works if season six is the final season, which idk if it is or not. but that’s just a theory. also your interpretation makes sense too, and if honestly more depressing so it’s probably the correct one
I think that this episode is likely setting up the next season. Black Mirror is getting more and more confident venturing outside the tech-thriller genre, and more and more into showing us the worst of ourselves - much like a 'black mirror'. I adore character pieces, and Black Mirror has always been a show about characters, about people, and how we interact with one another. That said, I think whether or not it all really happened is made very clear when the detectives are seen outside the room. For me, that was the first sign that Nita was hallucinating.
I hate when a story’s premise and/or ending is based on “it’s all in his/her head”. It’s been done before, and imo if you’ve seen it once you’ve seen it a thousand times. And yet everyone seemingly gushes over this device. Like they’ve just comprehended some deep philosophical proposal.
people are just dumb and dont watch closely and then going online and telling wrong stories and make thousands of philosophy chakpters. Its real. Its not in her head. She failed. Thats it.
Like that show Lost. Honestly, thought it was about people trapped on an island. Supernatural stuff starts happening that totally lost me when that began.
Let's say she imagined the information about the first victim.....even if he wasnt actually a pedo....how did she know he had a daughter.....a daughter who came to the shoe store later....and seen/acknowledged by the other employee...
her coworker acknowledged the daughter "gives her the willies" which could be indicative that its not the first time the kid or their family visited the store, Nida also had the "best fit" for the shoes in first try and the way the kid looks at Nida tells me she must have mentioned something to her before
@@travelandfamily someone can give you the willies even if its the first time meeting them. Theres just more info that points to it being real than not, so...
I think it all did happen as during her first kill she meets a complete stranger and we are shown he abuses his daughter she didn't have any prior knowledge about him, and we later soon see his daughter who's all quiet and traumatized.
I actually liked this one. Dont enjoy the “its all in her head” breakdown. When did any of her hallucinations have an effect on what others saw?! if thats the case theyd all also see and react Gaap, just as they see and react to the apocalypse. After her hallucinations all goes back to normal, her demon incited killings are very real. And so the biggest easter egg is, the episode is literally over after everyone witnesses the apocalypse.
People are making over analysis by claiming the very ending scene of apocalypse itself was also created by her own mind to ease the pain (after knowing Gaap didn’t exist) it’s lame imo. When they show blast going off we should just take it literally and accept he was real.
@@adityakulkarni9455 It is real. People this days are just dumb to watch closely. I mean in other shows people discuss all the time things which are clearly shown or told in the show but they miss it or are just dumb. Everything was real this epsiode. She is not crazy. Its just how it is she couldn prevent and stop it from happening. She failed because she is still too human.
would be an interesting take if Nida was the cause of Smart's fear of immigrants or POCs since Gaap could see into the future and Smart survived the killing
I really enjoyed this episode. I think that Nida is walking with Gap in Oblivion in peace because oblivion can be subjective. It could be a safe haven compared to what she had dealt with in the real world. While the world is being blown away by nuclear weapons, Nida and Gap safe and together.
worth mentioning...if you noticed the first line of the first and last song playing in this episode "Is it a kind of dream?"... everything that happened could be because of the power of the 'mind' or could just be 'all in her mind'. The line on that song, the book she's reading titled "Creative Visualization" prior to all this, the hallucinations affirming she has a lot of things going on her mind, her mother being mentioned having mental illness... (plus other clues) it was all put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? i think that's the appeal of this episode.. you may think either way and it's open for one's own interpretation... it talks about the power of the mind.. is there really an untouched part of our mind that can summon a demon or predict the future? (mind being a human part thats been studied over and over but still cannot be fully comprehended by technology up to this day). i do believe that's the objective of this episode... (your own take like bandersnatch).... Is it like a dream/imagination? or is it a 'reality' driven by unknown capabilities of the mind ( from 1979 even to the latest technology today)... in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
How did black mirror turn into a supernatural series? Watching this episode felt like watching strangers things not black mirror l, this episode undermines what black mirror is. On it's own it's God But Not as a black mirror episode this is one of the worst episode this season. Like WTF is happening? smh
my theory is that it's likely one of the realities inside the quantum computer, or it has something to do with that. specially because the demon felt like he was in a program, a conscious program.
for anyone who was confused what's the connection between this episode and tech and Sci-Fi based theme of the series well this episode is about alternative universes in our universe there was no nuclear war following the cold war but we were close. in this episode's universe it just happened and she just saw it coming, probably she was hallucinating believing that she'd stop the war if she killed some people.
What if Hitler/Stalin/Mao only did their evil stuff to prevent something way worse. Probably couldnt pull that without the victims of them going through massive mental trauma.
Her apartment above the Fish and Chips restaurant looks like the symbol for White Bear. Maybe she has always been living in that universe in her brain.
On Channel 4 in the UK, Nida is the lead in a series called *We are Lady Parts* where she is a shy girl in East London who joins an all female, Muslim punk band. Ironically (considering this episode) in Season 2 of we are lady parts, she writes a song called Villain Era all about being mistreated at work and sticking up for herself
The whole world (hell) is a dream - it is not real. Every wisdom tradition says the same. This episode of Black Mirror simply hints at this truth, so in the story, the whole world is in Nida’s mind- she is essentially God who has fallen into an ego/devil’s dream, dreaming that she is a person/victim in a horrible world, which is why she is reading that book, she is the dreamer of the entire world. That’s why she knows everything about everyone- because the entire thing is her own mental fabrication, though she is not aware of it consciously. It’s like Alice in Wonderland who forgot that she is in a dream and encounters all these mean horrible characters, but she has to awaken and remember who she really is and the dream will end. Gaap is just one of the dream characters that she dreamt up who is telling her info about other dream characters - info that she doesn’t access consciously, but through another dream character. Nida is the dreamer who needs to awaken by going through this shadow work and embracing her darker self that she has disowned. In the end, the world ended because the dreamer woke up back to her True Self as God. The last shot looks just like an angel leading Nida into the Light. Dude wasn’t a demon at all. Just an angel helping her to wake up- that Nida projected her darkest shadow onto, and eventually they talk about the “void” (only to the ego/devil, the nothingness is bad, but to God this is Home) devoid of matter, time, space, is what the Heart Sutra refers to when describing Nirvana- Time, space, matter is not real- it’s just what the ego/devil projects- just an illusion. The illusion came to an end and the world which never was real disappeared. So the dreamer (ego) woke up and the dream (world) ended in God and Heaven
I dont think the nuclear bombs were all in yer head.... How would you explain the detectives and police officers heating the sirens and rushing out to realize there is an attack? And when the detective said jesus Christ they did it or something like that... I dont really remember.
There wasn't a nuclear apocalypse in 1979. In real life or the Black Mirror universe, considering that almost all episodes take place in the present or future and reference each other. It was a psychotic delusion influenced by news coverage she watched and read about. People who lived through the Cold War worried about nuclear warfare.
I believe she was destined to find the talisman and to once again have a mortal take on the challenge. The articles lend themselves to the success of the first challenge, three deaths and the world still in existence.
I liked the episode and, to me, it would make sense if all of it was just a simulation. Like, all of them are cookies and nothing is real. I think it was really intriguing that, when Gaap showed Nida the visions, her eyes would turn grey as we have seen it happen to people in other episodes when they use the implant in them.
The 70s looking film grain is absent in the police interview, and the scene's colours and lighting are much more artificial - visually suggesting that it's not real. I liken the ending to Total Recall, with the fade to white suggesting an awakening. The lyrics 'is it a dream' from an alarm clock radio ( hint hint) are also a clue. Like Total Recall, everything that happens is based on something she's already seen. The red leather jacket is worn by famous imaginary antagonist Tyler Durden, who also encourages the main character to carry out their darkest fantasies like Gaap does here.
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I don't know why everyone takes the demon at his word. The demon is definitely real and he definitely can be lying to her (and mixing it in with truths like the best liars, which I would expect a demon to be).
That is insane wtf 😂 why does it matter
@@XMacheteDid you catch the part when Gaap showed Nida the apocalypse and made the statement about the smell of humans being like burgers on the grill? I believe that they drop a little truth in these movies/shows and for some time it has been said that we are being fed human meat in ground meat form. I must've rewind that part a dozen times. Just to make sure that i heard what i heard.
I really enjoyed this actress as Nida. I also love how all the Black Mirror stories take place in the same universe.
She was also in the last season of Killing Eve.
If it's in the same universe that means she was hallucinating ( I think)
She's really good
Another Easter egg: Her last name in the episode is Huq, same as the series creator’s wife
I don't think it's the same universe. If that was the case then we wouldn't have episodes based in the future due to the nuclear war. Plus, it would have meant that Nida would have been hallucinating this whole time if it was in the same universe.
However, if the nuclear war did happen, then it would be parallel universes, which explains why she could have seen into the future when Gaap showed him the Michael Smart visions.
I loved how she wore a red leather jacket at the end, and Gaap was in white with puffy feathered sleeves resembling angel wings. Initially, she was innocent and almost angelic with innocence, while he was the devil/demon. It felt like the role of the devil switched once she adorned the leather jacket. Once a demon starts objecting to your actions, you know you've gone down the darkest path. In a sense, Gaap offered her a spot with him in oblivion, like an alternative heaven for just the two of them. I wish they had fleshed out the relationship between the two more. She was attracted to the singer, but developing their chemistry would have made the ending more satisfying.
He only started “objecting her actions” because if she killed him then she would have stopped him from killing so many more people because he was a corrupt politician. So your point doesn’t make sense lol
@@Key-gx2px my point is about the juxtaposition and symbolism and it does make sense
@@Key-gx2pxexactly
@@Paperbutterfly23 it doesn’t 😊
@@Key-gx2pxyou’re just being a dick. A troll, if you will. The points made perfect sense.
This episode was hilarious. And I’ve never imagined myself loving a demon on TV before. The guy was super wholesome lmao
it’s sort of funny because when he was written as a funny and “lovable” demon but he says at the beginning that he’s also a liar. So if you think about him in that context, he might be a lot more devious with unknown intentions. Which makes a second viewing of the episode a little more intriguing.
He was such a himbo demon haha
Yup. But it makes sense though. Gaap wasn't actually trying to be a part of the crowd, he was just trying to escape an eternity in Oblivion. But at least he found Nida :)
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it was neat seeing her become more open, laid back &, less "frumpy" the closer she got to the dark side after her kills
dark side fress, light blinds us.
The world is full of scum. To make peace you have to erase human species
I’m surprised nobody mentioned the song “ Rasputin“ by Boney M.… Rasputin was a human, but he eventually became to be seen as a witch or a demon, because he could heal people, and when they tried to assassinate him, he wouldn’t die.
Good observation.
@@Changeling9au thank you!
They also pickled his weiner.
Nice!
But what the show got wrong is that in reality the black Boney M guy does not sing at all though ... he was just a dancer hired to perform alongside the female singers of the group, the male vocals of Boney M was sung by the producer himself ...
So, going to summarize what we know from this episode.
1. Gaap is an actual demon name lifted from old texts, listed as a prince of hell.
2. Gaap lies, by his own admission.
2. Laura is the actual name of the daughter of the first victim.
3. The novel Smiley's people is from 1979 and deals with a spy hiding his unstable daughter in a mental facility under a false identity. She's telling her handlers the truth which no one believes because they think she's insane. She's just the macguffin of the novel which is really about a struggle between two old spies.
Just based on above, we can conclude Gaap is real since his existence isn't something we see that she would have a way to have knowledge of, and since he gives her knowledge the show independently confirms for us. The novel is the easter egg to let us know she's unstable but not psychotic.
But Gaap being real doesn't mean that everything we see is real, because Gaap is a demon and Gaap lies.
My theory: Gaap is actually a prince in hell who once the talisman received anointing, was able to convince this woman to invite him. At that point she was doomed. He assumed a form to disarm her, then proceeds to corrupt her in order to claim her soul. He lied about armageddon but does tell her the truth about people while enticing her to murder them. At the end, he lies a final time to get her to surrender herself to him completely.
It's actually wild watching not a single reviewer consider this possibility. They all are either on the "all an hallucination" or "all true" trains, but neither of those conclusions work.
I just watched it snd came to say this too! He has to get her permission to claim her and she goes willingly at the end.
@@cazzyatkins6740 exactly! Another note I’d made was that his scenario doesn’t make sense: demon from hell helping human stop Armageddon as part of an initiation and if he fails he’s banished into nothingness? Ehhh, ok Gaap.
Makes whole a lot of sense. he wants to corrupt her to claim her soul, By lying about the end of the world
I'm glad I came across this possibility! It actually makes a lot of sense. Like with the talisman only having 2 lines left before she reset it. Wouldn't that mean the last person failed and the world wouldve been doomed already? It really does point to everything being real and that Gaap is a huge scammer.
This feels better than the most hyped and popular breakdown. Not fond of the need to unpack things so much that what is originally intended to be received becomes completely vacated. The one facet that the aforementioned breakdown doesnt account for is how none of her hallucinations have an effect on what others see and react to. Her killing are very real just as the apocalypse is. The biggest easter egg is, the episode is literally over after everyone witnesses and reacts to the apocalypse.
I loved this episode! Honestly I think it deserved a whole show
I Pray for a spin-off
agreed
i thought the same thing
Agreed
No. It works well this way. Enough of sequels. Less is more.
Black Mirror is awesome. There is charm and a unique aura in each episode.
I totally enjoyed this episode even though it didn't feel like a Black Mirror episode. Definitely loved the acting from Nida and Gaaps actors.
I felt the same way with the other episodes. They felt more like "Love, Death, and Robot" episodes but were still enjoyable!
@@neromauritzen6170 Agree
This season of Black Mirror is what I expected American Horror Stories would be.
I really enjoy the "Red Mirror" concept and kind of would love to see it expanded like American Horror Stories.
I feel like Charlie Brooker is onto something with season 6 having more horror undertones
Literally what I’ve been thinking
Yea feels so much like AHS i had to keep making sure i was actually watching black mirror
@@advictoriams I dont want that type of horror i want scifi future horror
I think a lot of people missed the twist on this one.
As others stated I think both Gaap is real but also the apocalypse is fake since there was already one line missing in the talisman meaning someone already failed but the world is still there.
Also since Gaap could see the future he knew she would fail, and consequently he knew that the world wouldn't end so his mission all along was just to seem friendly and make it seem like everything was lost just so that she would accept giving up her soul.
There's also the fact that if this episode is set in the same universe as the others then clearly the world didn't end...
Doesn't really make sense being in her head since she's given real information that we see reflected in other episodes.
What makes this episode so great is that they made the girl give herself to an abusive liar demon seem really cute and people fell for it, but there was no relationship at all...
He was just fooling her to get her soul, come on guys what do demons do?
What about this premise of demon and human teaming up to stop the apocalypse?
Bonkers
Also that scene where he calls someone to get the rules? Okay... that seemed explicitly fishy, at least for me...
We know he can control what she sees based on the visions he gave her so he could have been much more scary and horror-like if he wanted but I guess it's just easier being the "friendly" ghost as we saw.
Could also be that he exploits people's weaknesses and her, being surrounded with racism and apathy by most people, just wanted a friend or some company and he became that for sure...
Guess who fell for the devil's trick just because he seemed friendly?
I don't think the end of the world means literally end of human race, it simply means an apocalyptic event of world wide destruction that leaves the world in widespread chaos and devastation where the human population would be greatly reduced but not necessarily fully annihilated...
I think the things that happen are not her imagination but a multiverse thing where how the world progress depends on the devil's interfering manipulation of someone like her ... there must have been many alternate realities thats happened before thats why the devil has knowledge everyone's futures as those same lives has played out before in another alternate parallel universe ...
My view is that the devils are trying to manipulate events to guide the world to another kind of reality of their preference.
You see, the nuclear devastation that the devil is trying to avoid happening is not necessarily worse than what the world would be if the nuclear disaster did not happen ... there has to be something worse than a nuclear disaster if the devils are to succeed (yes, they are evil as can be seen by how they would prefer she does not murder the racist politician) ...
Black Mirror's universe is probably a multiverse, multi- parallel realities type of existence ... remember an earlier episode with the space astronauts in the 1960s with advanced technology of being able to transfer their minds to inhabit a physical replica of themselves on earth while they are in outer space ... thats not based on our reality's 1960s technology, so its like an alternate reality parallel universe to ours ...
I totally loved this episode because as a 54 year old black east Londoner, the period felt so real. It was everything from the fear of nuclear holocaust, the casual and blatant racism, the NF graffiti everywhere including school children putting NF on their school books! (so common I tended to ignore it!) the dreary colours and fashion, the 1979 election, strikes and of course the great music! I could go on and on. Smart sounded like Nigel Farage (brexit leader) to me, which was funny as I saw him at the cricket (Lords) at England V Ireland game recently!
what does nf mean?
@@El-wt3hn National Front. It was a British far right group, who used to call for repatriation for ethnic minorities etc. Not sure if they're still going but it's probably morphed into something else.
@@El-wt3hnNational Front (a racist group)
@@PunkyPrincessPopthanks 🙏
Yes, the best shows directly relate to reality!
Her eyes were glossed over during the visions like the episode where they could review their entire day.
Omg
This scene is in more than one episode
Think the demon was real. The stores former owner probably had to kill those 3 people from the newspaper clippings
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Yep Cus it was like 3 bad news clippings and the last one was a parade or sumin successful and positive In the town so previous store worker prolly completed his mission
I also thought that was the reason Keith killed his wife too.
@@AllegraDayo how do you explain the talisman only having 2 lines left before she reset it? The previous person, whether it was Mr Posset or not, wouldve failed the objective and the world wouldve already been doomed, no? Unless.... Maybe Gaap is a scamming ass demon.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
When Gaap shows her visions her eyes look like the grain from the entire history of you, she is in a white bear prison, also they show that same symbol several times, the one that looks like an squared upside down Y
I noticed that too. It looks like that symbol from bandersnatch and the symbol that was on the hunters masks on the white bear episode
Maybe this is what we do with mentally ill in BM universe. Let them live out their delusion and spend eternity in a white bear prison but one they seemingly chose. If they start showing signs of recovery pull them out I guess.
Anyone know why past Black Mirror episodes are based on technology, but season 6 gave us Werewolves, Serial Killers and Demons? Lost at Sea and Joan is Aweful are the only two that stuck to the Black Mirror technology theme.
not all past episodes are based on tech
Crocodile followed a serial killer trying to cover up her original crime...or rather she became one bc of it
@@URightButit had tech in it tho remember, those memory things in the eyes or smth. Thats what made them find the killer
@pingu-fo6xi well then the werewolf and demon episodes had “technology” too-cameras and television. Just bc they aren’t new to us now, they still count and were relevant to the era of the stories
@@URightBut Good point. I just watched the "Time Line Explained" video for Black Mirrors and that makes sense.
I thought this was the best episode of this season, the black comedy, the social commentary etc, and a satisfying ending. I liked the way that what seems logical to us following her journey seems absolutely bonkers when she recounts it in the police interview.
I think it really happened. The detectives at the end, saw the apocalypse themselves with Nida nowhere around.
i don’t think it’s a question of whether it was going to happen or not, but a question of whether nida was imagining that she could stop it. the threat was always there. they talked about it on the tv and nida would always change the channel
Naah....lots of other episodes are set after 1979.....not real.
@@lepterfirefallYeah I always thought Black Mirror all took place in the same universe but now I'm not so sure
@@mortem4342maybe 'red mirror' is what people in the black mirror universe watch on streamberry
@@lepterfirefall But there's episodes that take place after the "robot dogs" wipe out humanity too. So there can be multiple contradictory futures that partially overlap and are all still true within the Black Mirror/Red Mirror MULTIverse.
Nida never had a real-time hallucination involving other people unless she was present there herself with them. The cops seeing the nukes was real OUTSIDE of Nida's mind. They saw what happened exactly like she warned them. If the nukes launched exactly as Midnight like she predicted, they wouldn't start scorching London until a few minutes afterwards anyway. Nida & Gaap called it exactly how it went....for real. The episodes tries to trick you by giving clues about her psychotic mental illness and overimagination to keep you second-guessing all the way up until the end when it does a total bait and switch at the very last scence. The cops seeing the nukes without Nida standing with them confirms: Surprise! It WAS real.
The whole eternal oblivion could just be a mental hospital in a straitjacket
If it’s all on her head how did she actually saw the future including those robot dogs
It’s black mirror- they could easily explain it away with some sort of time travelling radio wave or something
@@Titanicdork133That'd be lame
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It's a mind experiment, in the future, to see what it takes to make a person kill. She's in a virtual reality that makes it look like the 70's when she is really in the future with some thing attached to her head.
Its real, after the nuclear war the robot dogs become reality and also the war kills billions but not everyone
Its not imaginary, its just an alternate reality that exists in an alternate tangent universe among many ..... in short, its a multiverse thing.
The devil is able to show her the futures of the people around her because those lives have played out before in the original time line reality ..... now the devils are trying to guide the reality onto a different (probably worse and more evil) path ...
The thing is that a nuclear disaster is not necessarily the worst outcome if it did not happen, perhaps there will be more terrible outcomes than that of a nuclear disaster .....
Nida was reading a book titled "creative visualization". Maybe all thos was just in her head?
The main character should have realized that there was always a way "out" by not doing what the demon asked and letting everyone die. She should have understood that since demons exist then that means that God and heaven exists aswell. Chosing not to kill anyone means that she perserves her morality and goes into heaven. This was her way out. Instead, the demon won in the end by breaking her moral compass and convincing her that living an eternity in hell was better than heaven
She is seemed naive and kinda stupid imo.
That’s my take on it, she could have preserved her innocence and went out with the rest of the world. She agreed to nothingness just to skip the pain of the fire
That's if you belive good works get you into heaven. No judgment on your comments just a different point of view.
@@justinstansberry7555not killing isn’t a good work, it’s standard. You don’t get awarded for not killing, you get punished for killing though.
YOU BETTA SAY THAT!!!!
To me the stuff that she imagined doing to her collage dont seem like hallucinations, to me it looks like she was just imagining how good it would feel to do it. I like to think that everything that we saw was real and she is with gaab at the end, the whole time i feelt like they were into each other! I was watching the episode with my finace and i was like omg what a cute ending and he looked at me like i was crazy 😂😂 did anybody else find that the ending has cute energy?
my bf and i thought the end was so cute!! i also choose to believe its all real. theyre adorable together
Lol meeeee I was like yay lol 😂
I loved it 😂 It was adorable.
I agree
absolutely, i reckon that a kiss in the end would complement the episode perfectly
I like the subtle undertone of her justifying her murders because a charismatic figure convinced her certain groups people needed to die to save their world from an existential threat.
"certain groups" = white people
The episode was pretty clear about that. Which perfectly "mirrors" the real-world narrative of wokeness.
**minor spoiler**
I'm really surprised you didn't link the ending of this to the world of Metalhead (S4E5). It literally walks you right into it. Smart is the guy who starts the manufacturing of the robot dogs and Metalhead takes place in an apocalyptic future that (we now know) is caused by this one slip up.
Happy to discuss any rebuttals.
I noticed that as well! It's interesting how everything is bit a connected in the series
Completely agree
I like this theory
I think Nidas body stayed on earth. She was tricked by a daemon for her soul. Her soul went with Gaap into oblivion. However, her vessel stayed and is now empty. Locked up in some psych ward. Or playing as npc controlled by the gate keepers. I love black mirror. Please do more videos like this. I love them. I'd love to see your take on the episode "hang the d.j." thank you. 🎉
This is a great theory.
What a fantastic freaking episode. This is what you call television mind candy. Throwing everything at the wall and it stick. I hope I can find a breakdown of this episode on RUclips because my words won't do it justice. From the music soundtrack, the 2 leads, the cast, the setting; loved every element of it. Nida could have easily been a serial killer's victim she was so small and mouse like but she had a raging demon inside. It seem like she was about to be swallowed up by life until she took control and became the actual killer.
I love the politician Michael Smart who give out big time Damien from the Omen vibes and a matching Dead Zone type possible future.
By far the best Black Mirror episode in years #BlackMirror #demon79
There's something to this Michael Smart guy. Gaap said the demons wouldn't like it if she killed him. We'll probably hear more about him in future seasons.
yes!!! I also want to know why.
I think it’s because Smart would be a great influence in the future. Gaap mentioned himself that because his future shows “death and war” he would be a great evil prospect of the future. I think the symbol of his campaign are shown in other episodes from other seasons that are already in the future so to speak, as well as being the symbol of the talisman. Either he’s been working for an evil entity all this time or he’s going to in a future time. That’s why I think they don’t want Nida to mess with him and also I think Nida had been hallucinating all that time or If the Nukes happened, Smart was notified of the latter and was able to save himself somehow. You know how “governments” have bunkers everywhere for specific people and situations…
I totally agree. And I can attest to how all of what transpired just happened inside Nida's mind. I had my own share of this. All those little imagery and words we encounter in our day to day lives can overwhelmingly take over our dreams as normal beings. What more if you have a lingering mental illness? In my case, I had severe depression few years back and had imagined things while I was fully awake and conscious. I only realized those imagery were products of my imagination afterwards. Our minds are scary...
I hope Nida went with Gaap into oblivion, just bc he was so dang cool. I really must say, after what I thought was a lacklustre season 5 and the irredeemable horror that was Bandersnatch (IMHO), Black Mirror has made a course correction and returned to form. I enjoyed season 6 very much, with Demon 79 being my favourite out of all the episodes offered. If they can keep it up, I hope we get a season 7!!
Same...this was the best, acting and story-wise
The Three Crowns Pub has address number 2426. 2+4=6. 4+2=6 and 6. 666. It's also clever that the Pub is named "Three Crowns" as reference to the Catholic Papal Tiara - which has three tiers of crowns. Each tier represent the realms of existence: Human, Celestial, Terrestrial realms. (Side tidbit: The Papacy historically has been known for its three forces: Religious, Military, Political - themes of the episode).
You can only show the delussion of a character through his or her point of view. When we see the bombs falling from the point of view of everyone else its implied its real.
Good point
But that ending scene with those police's perspective lasted for few seconds they didn't have the long conversation, she might be imagining from her perspective coz she couldn't see what was happening, she was handcuffed and her room doesn't have windows.
I liked that the plot twist in this episode was actually the fact that there is no plot twist in this episode because all I've been thinking about while watching the episode was "what would be the final plot twist that breaks my mind?" but actually no plot twist broke my mind
Also should be noted the song he was singing "Rasputin' was written about TGrigori Rasputin, a friend and advisor of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia and his family during the early 20th century.
I kinda hope she’s in oblivion lol it just seems like the perfect ending
While I don't like that Black Mirror went supernatural, it was the comic relief I needed after the "Beyond the Sea" episode.
worth mentioning...if you noticed the first line of the first & last song playing in this episode "Is it a kind of dream?"... everything that happened could be because of the power of the 'mind' or could just be 'all in her mind'. The line on that song, the book she's reading titled "Creative Visualization" prior to all this, the anger hallucinations affirming she has a lot of things going on her mind, her mother being mentioned having mental illness... (plus other clues) it was all put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? i think that's the appeal of this episode.. you may think either way and it's open for one's own interpretation... it talks about the power of the mind.. is there really an untouched part of our mind that can manifest reality, summon a demon or even predict the future? (mind being a human part thats been studied over and over but still cannot be fully comprehended by technology up to this day). i do believe that's the objective of this episode... (your own take like bandersnatch).... Is it like a dream/imagination? or is it a 'reality' driven by unknown capabilities of the mind (unexplored from old times even to the latest technology today)... id still go with the demon and the apocalypse being ALL IN HER MIND... But in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
Sure, but are we supposed to be impressed or have some new revelation by is it “all in her mind” as the premise? It’s been done before, and quite frankly if you’ve seen it once you’ve seen it a thousand times.
@@ALLrobotsAreSad hence the way it was executed, all those clues "Is it like a dream?" song, "Creative Visualization" book, the visuals after the clock hit 12 when the detective was outside all of a sudden, "the mental state of her mother", Nida's anger hallucination... it was put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
love this take and how it still relates to technology or the mind still being superior to technology., which makes me think otherwise
@@travelandfamily Sorry, I’m not trying to be obnoxious with you, but imo that whole “clever” filmmaking thing of like look at all these little ambiguous puzzle clues sprinkled throughout the show is so masturbatory, you know what I mean? Anyway, it seems that you actually like it so I’ll stop bothering you with my rants. ✌️
As someone who as been in psychosis twice, the mind can truly manifest its own "reality" if pushed to it. When I was in psychosis I truly believed I had spiritual witch-like abilities and what not. It's crazy how fragile the mind can be. Turns out adhd and its link to dopamine makes me a wonderful fine line away from schizophrenia 😭
Before you say it in the video my theory as to why there’s only one line missing from the talisman when she finds it is because possets, the founder of the shoe store and the previous owner of the talisman, couldn’t bring himself to kill anyone which is why he killed himself, which in turn counted as a murder and took one of the lines away. I’m sure you’re going to say this also but wanted to see if I’m right 😂
True because the demon he had probably didn’t take a form like Gaap did so it could run crazy if you see it was one murder that’s store owner or if he killed 3 ppl not knowing that they already where killer he killed himself because it was all got nothing he still have this demon on his back do he kill himself or pray away the demon but didn’t get rid of the stuff
If GAAP could see the future then he knew that Nida wasn’t gonna be successful so maybe his plan from the start was to take her soul and the world didn’t end.
i believe this as well. he is a demon so they have no reason to *really* stop the apocalypse. maybe they wanted him to corrupt someone/to increase the number of evil people on earth. also, i don’t think it’s necessarily *the* future. i think he’s just able to simulate events.
or, since he’s new, it could be that he only has access to certain events so truthfully he didn’t know whether nida would fail or not. he only has access to certain contingencies
It killed billions but not everyone that’s why we see the robot dogs in apocalypse in one season. There were still some humans alive
But we also know there are different futures - he talks about the first victim's daughter killing herself at 28, later that she gets married at 29
@Mary-pt8jmI think the nuclear Holocaust was just her hallucination. Those robot dogs exist in the distant future, after Michael Smart became PM and ruined everything. In short scene, there is a news headline that says it was he who issued those robot dogs to be used in public.
This was my favorite episode out of the entire series. I love it how Nida's eyes turn gray just like when people put on thise head tab to play games in season 5. I love how Gaap looks at himself in the TV instead of a mirror.
I think seeing the world BEFORE tech took over proves that people are the ones that complicate A LOT of things. Also kinda cool to see demons real, meaning there must be some angels out there too.
I just think it was all in her imagination as simple as that sounds bc of the visualization book she was reading. The killings did happen but the demon was a figment of her imagination .
You really need to listen what Gaap says and observe what he does:
1) Turning himself into her favourite singer to seduce her trust
2) "Murderers don't count."
3) "They won't be happy if you'd kill Michael Smart."
4) Unbothered by failed mission
All these points reveal that Gaap is lying/ hiding things from Nida.
If Nida killed Smart, many bad things won't happen and the demons won't be happy with it. = demons want bad things to happen. So why does Gaap bother to prevent WWIII?
Answer: He doesn't. The Apocalypse thingy was a lie.
Why don't murderers count?? Because they'll go to hell anyways.
And Gaap didn't seem quite bothered when he is about to go to eternal oblivion. Why? Because he will not stay there for eternity. But Nida will. That was what it was all about. He lied and pressured her to kill in order to get her soul into oblivion (hell).
And for the last scene with the dropping bombs - it was probably one of Nidas halucinations to make her actions more justifyable for herself.
What do you think of my theory?
Great theory, this makes Gaap’s character much more sinister and creepy.
I like your interest the best. It must all be a lie
Genuinely loved this episode so so so much. I though gaap the demon was such an awesome character. And that ending? It’s perfect the way they make you think she’s just crazy just for it to all come true. Her and garb going together to continue their friendship. Such a fitting ending
The other possibility is that Nida is imagining all of this since her mother suffered from mental issues. Nina had vivid hallucinations and the Three newspaper articles with a man dying in a fire, man crushed by a wall and a woman disappearing resembling 3 deaths. The Demon Gaap also resembles the dancer Boney M she saw on TV before he appeared.
:)
@@serenesoundstation5320No, not really. The police and the other lady thought she was crazy but they saw for themselves what she was saying was true. They ended up in flames.
@@animalfinatic9366Exactly. WE see that, she doesn't
This episode reminds me of death note.
I felt the same.
Gaap introduction reminded Ryuk first appearance. This episode must be Netflix apologie after that DN diagraceful adaptation.
Maybe it was mentioned in the last upload, but @ 5:56, the Three Crowns and the 24*26 on the pub building may allude to the biblical verse of Luke 24:26, where it references the Three Crowns of Jesus - King, Priest, and Prophet, and the three temptations of Christ. Disregard if this was mentioned elsewhere. :D
they're not hallucinations, people don't just hallucinate for 4 seconds and then go back to normal with no reaction and a smile on their face. She was consciously fantasizing, hence the book she was reading. She does however react very strongly to the things that actually happened, which indicates to me that she could tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
Weirdly enough, I just fall for the whole thing and find the apocalypse ending wholesome by Black Mirror standard, eternal oblivion and all. Sometimes you just want to see the world burn with all the mistreatment I guess.
After watching the whole season I just realized that the Demon 79 episode is really in her head due to the many Easter eggs we come across throughout the season especially for Michael Smart, news paper articles and StreamBerry as references for the Prime Minister. Otherwise he wouldn't have been a PM had there been a nuclear war at the end of the episode.
Edit: Or it could be a multiverse saga?😂😂
I think it's something like a multiverse thing. The Beyond The Sea episode's description said it was set in an alternate 1969...
If it was all in her head how did she see things that actually do happen later like the robot dogs
@@chimp4225 if it was all in her head, and in a prison cell/psych ward she could've over hear what people in the future are doing or was doing. Lmao
@@KiYasiaDreams exactly you get it
@@KissyAdair Oh, okay that makes sense then. I guess it's safe to say that there are parallel universes in Black Mirror.
I like your theory of it all being in her head! I hope in future episodes they let us know about this in a news reel or something
I loved it this really felt like the quality of great story’s we get from black mirror. Maybe because it felt charcter driven. I wish I could of seen more but still happy It happened. That’s the feeling black mirror does best. Not living to become a villain. Ending young and beautiful not overdone which is how the other episodes felt. They where 20 minutes episodes dragged into hour long nothingness.
This was the most Black Mirror episode cause the more you analyze it the more you can go either way with it really happening as a Black mirror way or it all being in her head like in a black mirror way lol
When Nida found the talisman, there were only two lines on it. Once Gaap starts explaining, he talks about three lines on the talisman (3 murders), which we can also see on the talisman. The question is why there were only two lines the moment Nida took the Talisman - shouldn't the world have ended earlier ? ( because as it is mentioned in this video - it could mean that " owner" of the talisman before Nida failed, but the last owner was Mr. Possett....
I think the person who had it before only needed two kills. Each person that bonds with the talisman adds another line. After Nida there would’ve been four lines. That’s just my theory.
NITA GOT A GOOD SHRINK AND IS NOW W0RKING AT THE DOWN TOWN LONDON MCDONALD'S. SHE HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO HEAD FRENCH FRY COOKER. WE ARE SO PROUD OF HER! 🥺
they are playing with our subconscious minds with this one... 333
Love the 333
0:55 - Yes, Bright Eyes was a song written for Watership Down, the 1978 animated film but you got the meaning wrong. It is essentially an exploration of the concept of death and ties in with Demon 79 even better than you supposed it does.
my interpretation was that the entirety of black mirror was a “could be” like how gaap could see the future as it was before something happened (like seeing that laura killed herself at 28, and then her future changed after her dad died), so this episode voided the entirety of the series because the world ended. so none of the events in the black mirror universe happened because the world ended before it could. my theory only really works if season six is the final season, which idk if it is or not. but that’s just a theory. also your interpretation makes sense too, and if honestly more depressing so it’s probably the correct one
I think that this episode is likely setting up the next season. Black Mirror is getting more and more confident venturing outside the tech-thriller genre, and more and more into showing us the worst of ourselves - much like a 'black mirror'. I adore character pieces, and Black Mirror has always been a show about characters, about people, and how we interact with one another.
That said, I think whether or not it all really happened is made very clear when the detectives are seen outside the room. For me, that was the first sign that Nita was hallucinating.
I hate when a story’s premise and/or ending is based on “it’s all in his/her head”.
It’s been done before, and imo if you’ve seen it once you’ve seen it a thousand times.
And yet everyone seemingly gushes over this device. Like they’ve just comprehended some deep philosophical proposal.
Exactly lol , sounds like an ai generated episode , unironically
people are just dumb and dont watch closely and then going online and telling wrong stories and make thousands of philosophy chakpters.
Its real. Its not in her head. She failed. Thats it.
Like that show Lost. Honestly, thought it was about people trapped on an island. Supernatural stuff starts happening that totally lost me when that began.
Let's say she imagined the information about the first victim.....even if he wasnt actually a pedo....how did she know he had a daughter.....a daughter who came to the shoe store later....and seen/acknowledged by the other employee...
her coworker acknowledged the daughter "gives her the willies" which could be indicative that its not the first time the kid or their family visited the store, Nida also had the "best fit" for the shoes in first try and the way the kid looks at Nida tells me she must have mentioned something to her before
@@travelandfamily 👍🏾
@@travelandfamily someone can give you the willies even if its the first time meeting them. Theres just more info that points to it being real than not, so...
Nida and Keith’s brother’s “fight” was very much giving “Brigit Jone’s Diary”🤣🤣🤣
Her eyes when the demon is showing her things reminds me of The Entire History of you when they are watching memories.
I think it all did happen as during her first kill she meets a complete stranger and we are shown he abuses his daughter she didn't have any prior knowledge about him, and we later soon see his daughter who's all quiet and traumatized.
Yeah seems like it actually happened, unless she's mad and psychic at the same time.
Liked the same video twice!!! How exciting!!😂😅
I actually liked this one. Dont enjoy the “its all in her head” breakdown.
When did any of her hallucinations have an effect on what others saw?! if thats the case theyd all also see and react Gaap, just as they see and react to the apocalypse. After her hallucinations all goes back to normal, her demon incited killings are very real. And so the biggest easter egg is, the episode is literally over after everyone witnesses the apocalypse.
People are making over analysis by claiming the very ending scene of apocalypse itself was also created by her own mind to ease the pain (after knowing Gaap didn’t exist) it’s lame imo. When they show blast going off we should just take it literally and accept he was real.
@@adityakulkarni9455 another over looked fact about the paradigm loop, from the is awful episode, what level of reality was this show on?
@@adityakulkarni9455 It is real. People this days are just dumb to watch closely. I mean in other shows people discuss all the time things which are clearly shown or told in the show but they miss it or are just dumb.
Everything was real this epsiode. She is not crazy. Its just how it is she couldn prevent and stop it from happening. She failed because she is still too human.
would be an interesting take if Nida was the cause of Smart's fear of immigrants or POCs since Gaap could see into the future and Smart survived the killing
He was clearly racist before meeting her.
He prob exploited it for his campaigns by pointing to the perceived threat like “See! If it happened to me, it could be you next!”
That would make sense if not for the fact smart himself revealed himself to be a racist wolf is wolfs clothing
When was this season shot? It’s wild how similar the policies are to modern day politics in America rn
I really enjoyed this episode. I think that Nida is walking with Gap in Oblivion in peace because oblivion can be subjective. It could be a safe haven compared to what she had dealt with in the real world. While the world is being blown away by nuclear weapons, Nida and Gap safe and together.
Nope, it’s eternal damnation
@@tyresrwhat is eternal damnation tho🤔? That’s why it’s subjective. What your hell is could be someone else’s heaven.
@@mrjonsey burning forever can be someone’s heaven? Doesn’t make sense
@@tyresrEternal damnation is a state of mind. Don’t be so literal.
Season 6 was pretty dope
3 episodes were okay the rest sucked including this one
@@brady50429nah.
@@brady50429imagine being wrong like this man
Seriously?😂
@@brady50429 If you think this episode sucked I'm curious to know what the other episode is
I was so confused by this episode! What was the connection to technology? Anyway, great video!
She watches too much TV as her only means to escape her boring and mundane life, and started having trouble separating reality from fiction.
It’s a red mirror production rather than black mirror and red mirror represents blood and humanity rather than tech and singularity
worth mentioning...if you noticed the first line of the first and last song playing in this episode "Is it a kind of dream?"... everything that happened could be because of the power of the 'mind' or could just be 'all in her mind'. The line on that song, the book she's reading titled "Creative Visualization" prior to all this, the hallucinations affirming she has a lot of things going on her mind, her mother being mentioned having mental illness... (plus other clues) it was all put there for a reason and not by accident... and it all ends up with even the viewers questioning... is it real or not? i think that's the appeal of this episode.. you may think either way and it's open for one's own interpretation... it talks about the power of the mind.. is there really an untouched part of our mind that can summon a demon or predict the future? (mind being a human part thats been studied over and over but still cannot be fully comprehended by technology up to this day). i do believe that's the objective of this episode... (your own take like bandersnatch).... Is it like a dream/imagination? or is it a 'reality' driven by unknown capabilities of the mind ( from 1979 even to the latest technology today)... in the end... "it's all up to one's mind" ... clever 😊
Thanks you guys! So true about the TV!
How did black mirror turn into a supernatural series? Watching this episode felt like watching strangers things not black mirror l, this episode undermines what black mirror is. On it's own it's God But Not as a black mirror episode this is one of the worst episode this season. Like WTF is happening? smh
Nida went to the eternal oblivion of her own mind. And shout to the use of Boney M's Ma Baker when Nida became a full fledged slayer.
Best soundtrack in any episode
Yes, absolutely ! Ian Dury and Lene Lovich deserve to be in BM ! And Bright Eyes was the best choice ’cause this song is magic...
HA! That intro before going into "WASH YOUR *ICKS" got a real laugh from me
my theory is that it's likely one of the realities inside the quantum computer, or it has something to do with that. specially because the demon felt like he was in a program, a conscious program.
for anyone who was confused what's the connection between this episode and tech and Sci-Fi based theme of the series
well this episode is about alternative universes
in our universe there was no nuclear war following the cold war but we were close.
in this episode's universe it just happened and she just saw it coming, probably she was hallucinating believing that she'd stop the war if she killed some people.
Nida turned into a Dark Souls boss when she hopped out the car with that hammer and that music lol
Great summary!
What if Hitler/Stalin/Mao only did their evil stuff to prevent something way worse.
Probably couldnt pull that without the victims of them going through massive mental trauma.
History is written by the victors
Her apartment above the Fish and Chips restaurant looks like the symbol for White Bear. Maybe she has always been living in that universe in her brain.
Maybe her mom wasnt crazy and experienced something similar
Exactly
On Channel 4 in the UK, Nida is the lead in a series called *We are Lady Parts* where she is a shy girl in East London who joins an all female, Muslim punk band.
Ironically (considering this episode) in Season 2 of we are lady parts, she writes a song called Villain Era all about being mistreated at work and sticking up for herself
Was the takeaway from this that if she integrated and ate a cheese sandwich she wouldn't have murdered those people?
The Gap does not have reasonable priced clothing, but I dig the rest of your review!
The whole world (hell) is a dream - it is not real. Every wisdom tradition says the same. This episode of Black Mirror simply hints at this truth, so in the story, the whole world is in Nida’s mind- she is essentially God who has fallen into an ego/devil’s dream, dreaming that she is a person/victim in a horrible world, which is why she is reading that book, she is the dreamer of the entire world. That’s why she knows everything about everyone- because the entire thing is her own mental fabrication, though she is not aware of it consciously. It’s like Alice in Wonderland who forgot that she is in a dream and encounters all these mean horrible characters, but she has to awaken and remember who she really is and the dream will end. Gaap is just one of the dream characters that she dreamt up who is telling her info about other dream characters - info that she doesn’t access consciously, but through another dream character. Nida is the dreamer who needs to awaken by going through this shadow work and embracing her darker self that she has disowned. In the end, the world ended because the dreamer woke up back to her True Self as God. The last shot looks just like an angel leading Nida into the Light. Dude wasn’t a demon at all. Just an angel helping her to wake up- that Nida projected her darkest shadow onto, and eventually they talk about the “void” (only to the ego/devil, the nothingness is bad, but to God this is Home) devoid of matter, time, space, is what the Heart Sutra refers to when describing Nirvana- Time, space, matter is not real- it’s just what the ego/devil projects- just an illusion. The illusion came to an end and the world which never was real disappeared. So the dreamer (ego) woke up and the dream (world) ended in God and Heaven
I like this
This was a really good episode of Love, Death, and Robots.
The moral: even demons are more honest than a politician
Can someone explain why did Gaap disagree when Nina wanted to kill the politician?
This season had a lot more comedy than previous seasons. Love this series.
The beginning of this video was petty af and I was here for it 😂😂😂😂😂
I dont think the nuclear bombs were all in yer head.... How would you explain the detectives and police officers heating the sirens and rushing out to realize there is an attack? And when the detective said jesus Christ they did it or something like that... I dont really remember.
There wasn't a nuclear apocalypse in 1979. In real life or the Black Mirror universe, considering that almost all episodes take place in the present or future and reference each other.
It was a psychotic delusion influenced by news coverage she watched and read about. People who lived through the Cold War worried about nuclear warfare.
I was like, "is that the girl from We Are Lady Parts"? It sure is! I hope to see more of her!
I believe she was destined to find the talisman and to once again have a mortal take on the challenge. The articles lend themselves to the success of the first challenge, three deaths and the world still in existence.
I liked the episode and, to me, it would make sense if all of it was just a simulation.
Like, all of them are cookies and nothing is real.
I think it was really intriguing that, when Gaap showed Nida the visions, her eyes would turn grey as we have seen it happen to people in other episodes when they use the implant in them.
Nida ended up with Gaap in oblivion. Happily ever after. ❤
When I watched the episode I screamed because of this watership down song
What if Red Mirror is the contrast to Black Mirror....like it represents analog technology???
Yo ur theory bout nida being cray is actually kinda dope
The 70s looking film grain is absent in the police interview, and the scene's colours and lighting are much more artificial - visually suggesting that it's not real. I liken the ending to Total Recall, with the fade to white suggesting an awakening. The lyrics 'is it a dream' from an alarm clock radio ( hint hint) are also a clue. Like Total Recall, everything that happens is based on something she's already seen. The red leather jacket is worn by famous imaginary antagonist Tyler Durden, who also encourages the main character to carry out their darkest fantasies like Gaap does here.
I don’t think it was a hallucination. I think the Apocalypse could’ve been caused by the USSR attack and Nida could’ve predicted it.
this was honestly one of the best ep in black mirror idc
Just great acting from her 💜