@@creeper4481 super saiyan god x 50 = super saiyan god super saiyan = super saiyan blue . then, super saiyan god super saiyan 4 = ssjb4 = ssjgss x 4000 = ssjb x (4000 : 50) so it's too overpowered
I can really see Goku combining MUI or UI with his super saiyan transformations. He was kind of already doing it in the Manga but I'd love to see him stack it on his forms as if it was Kaio-Ken.
He can’t use mui/pui with any saiyan forms. Mui and pui require a calm heart and mind. His saiyan forms are enhanced his anger. The way to go would be true ui with his saiyan forms because he was really angry fighting gas
@@dustini7 mui is mastered ultra instinct and the white haired form he used against jiren. He needs to be calm to use it. Pui is a perfected ultra instinct and he uses that against someone called moro. It is very similar to mui but there’s no aura showing goku has perfected it. He needs to be calm to use it. Tui is true ultra instinct and looks a lot like ui sign but it’s a lot more powerful. Goku can get saiyan rage boosts in this form because it uses his saiyan pride.
@@Topg924forgot that gokus tui is weaker than pui but since he doesn’t have to stay calm he can draw out more power is situations that he uses his emotions in
That dont even make sense bc ssj4 is similar to ape where they don’t needa tail and if they could somehow go ssj4 without one they be calm bc ssj4 is like great ape where they l kinda go berserk
@@El_Potato69didnt they train to master ssj by being calm during the transformation? Maybe the same could apply but I really don’t know how they’ll explain a fusion of transformations.. maybe ssj4 will be a new base form? Idk.
Super Saiyan 5 would make so much more sense now in the story. He could unlock supersaiyan 4 and use it for a while then combine ultra instinct with it and it would be like supersaiyan 5
@shellmorton9860 bro calm down I’m saying that it would make so much more sense and you can’t stop the show from having more transformations. It’s dragon ball for the love of god.
@shellmorton9860 and you know damn well they will continue to drag it on so instead of complaining about it I find it better that we just try to guess or come up with our own hypothesis about it. We may not like how it’s going or what they do but there’s no point in getting pissed that they continued it when we know they still will
@shellmorton9860 bro I’m literally the one tryna say how we don’t have to like what dragon ball is doing how am I the one pressed over an anime opinion 💀💀 and aren’t you the one pressed because I stated my opinion about super saiyan 5 💀💀
@shellmorton9860 I don’t really want the show to continue I hope they just hurry and get their final forms and goku and vegeta have a final fight, but like I said this is DB they are going to milk this show dry for as long as possible
To be fair, Whis told Goku to discover who he really is. That's the basis of his power. He'll never abandon his Saiyan power. The transformations are such due to the Saiyan's ability to evolve, to adapt. Hence why god ki gives him SSJG transformations and MUI allows Goku to tap into the state of the angels.
@@theboywiththetorterramask nah I keep having dreams about it, and in my dream the grand priest jumps in and randomly decides to fight goku and then goku dies because his power was too powerful to be handled by a mortal
I think that if they do make SS4 canon, they’re going to do it with Broly. I get the feeling he’s gonna go down the path of pursuing his raw power. He more than has the Ki for it, it’s just for him, it’s more of a matter of learning how to control it.
In fact, it would be cool to destroy it like this: a villain appears who knows how to block the divine ki. Then Goku should develop as a Sayan and the author should introduce SSJ 4 Limit Breaker into the canon. After completing the arch, give Goku a reason to think about developing his own strength, not just the UI, and then impose a divine ki on SSJ 4 LB. To get something like SSJ4LB Blue tt. And then introduce some very strong opponent like a dark angel in tandem with the God of Destruction and force Goku to develop the UI to a Perfect True UI (something like the strongest MUI, but with the ability to connect emotions as in TUI). And then combine SSJ4LB Blue and PTUI. To fix all this by some manipulation with dragon balls (after all, the anime about them was originally). And use Kayo-ken with a large multiplier, as well as Dragon Fist. It seems to me that with this power Goku will be above all the angels and, maybe, breathe into the back of the Grand Priest.
I’m hoping for a SSJ4 type transformation. Something calling back to the Oozaru is so cool! (Plus Paragus mentions in the movie that Broly’s “rage” transformation is like him using the Oozaru but not transforming 👀)
He is going to incorporate TUI into his base form and be able to stack ALL of his transformations on top of it.. Kinda like how SS God did. So get ready for a soft reboot on the saiyan forms with the cool dodging of UI. I really hope that is the way it goes
I just hope that they go in the ss4 direction after it’s all said and done Bring it every single drop of saiyan greatness and push even further for power Let ui b the reason ss3 can work as a sustainable transformation a form that can be mastered and then bring forth ss4 ……it will feel natural and deserved
Gokus final form should be him regaining the great ape power and mixing it with SSJ and MUI. The way its going it looks like hes going to have regular black hair and silver eyes. If he gains the Akari form and mixes it with SSJ and mastered true UI. Then he'd have a similar form to Kale/Kefla but with a silver hue added so more an avocado green than lime green. So mastered UI on top of the 1000× multiplier of controlled legendary ssj
His next transformation could be Ultra Saiyan. (Combining UI's God power with Super Saiyan) And the appearance would be really cool if they adapted Super Saiyan 4
Considering their focusing on his origins it would be nice to see ssj4 possibly make an appearance even tho it may not be as strong as blue or muj it could be almost like ssj1 how he doesn’t ever fully go all out at the start
Technically, the manga and toei animation are creating their own stories. The manga has a lot of approval from toriyama. However, toei animation doesn't seem to be respecting the manga (given that they haven't adapted later parts of the manga and instead released 2 movies that had nothing to do with the manga) So now the manga has to catch up and adapt those 2 movies and somehow make them canon. I believe toriyama likes the direction the manga is heading a lot more than the anime but he doesn't own the anime rights
When it comes to ssj4 I personally think it'll be a step back from the direction they are taking with Supers story. However if he does achieve his own version of Ui it would be cool if the god ki took form as "ssj4" but not ssj4 if that makes sense. If they were to bring back the actual transformation I think it'll be a cool exclusive form for Broly since the transformation states they take the power of the Gizaru and harness it instead of turning into the great ape, which Broly was stated to have done in the movie. Which imo would perfectly round off every Saiyan's powers perfectly, Goku with Ui, Vegeta with UE, Gohan with Beast, Broly with SSJ4, giving each of them their own identity and powers that truly match who they are as characters and how they each utilize their abilities.
I think he will add Super Saiyan to UI like he did with SSJ God and SSJ Blue(SSJ God was like a new base form with God Ki and SSJ Blue is when he added Super Saiyan to it so i think he will use UI like a base form to add Super Saiyan to it). Now that he can feel his emotions in UI he could master the technique and add Super Saiyan to it without losing the UI form due to rage.
imagine Super Saiyan Blue KaiokenX100 on top of True UI 💀 bro could probably destroy Whis I haven't finished Granolah arc yet so idk if he already can or not
We don’t need a transformation for a while. I wish we can just use what we have no and perfect those. It was so nice to see the build up ascending the SSJ transformation and finally getting SSJ2 at the end of cell arc
@jacobblakely2224 even then it would be far too straining on the body to use considering how long it took just to make kayoken blue more casually usable
Goku going SSJ4 and stacking UI on it would be the best way to actually make super Saiyan 4 cannon. Maybe with a different name. But they should really make it canon now. It's the form that is most connected to a Saiyan. And Goku finally discovering his Saiyan roots and achieving the form would be the best way for him to actually master the UI technique without actually loosing his Saiyan side
Imagine like, Mui starts being a new base form so Goku be able to create new forms, example: Ssj 1 With Ui as a new base it would be Ssj1 Mui. Basically Mui but with Ssj1 hair and aura color.
I kinda hoped that Ultra Instinct would just be the final transformation and trump card for every fight… but then Frieza had to come along and one shot Goku AND Vegeta in UI and UE sooo idk. If there are going to be any more transformations, which I’m sure there will be, I would absolutely love to see SSJ4 become canon.
Goku combing super saiyan forms and god forms with ui would make it easier on goku and he wouldn’t have to worry about his emotions getting in the way and maintaining a very high level of power
Ive always pictured a very subdued "perfect goku" without all the flash and hair. Probably a white gi and no hair at all with a slight white aura. The perfect versions of other characters were always more sleek and simpler in design. The Perfect form does not express its power outwardly, simply a calm and tranquil god.
My current expectation is that with Goku having Ultra Instinct and Vegeta having Ultra Ego, they'll eventually fuse and Vegito will achieve a form that combines both powers. Something like Ultra Balance or whatever. As a result of experiencing that, the two of them will begin working to achieve this state without having to fuse, which will lead to them both unlocking this form individually. Though honestly I've always liked the idea that if Goku were to take the time to master Super Saiyan 2 and 3 like he does with Super Saiyan just prior to the Cell games, eventually their energy consumption and usability would become effortless too and that this in turn would allow him to access a similar state with Super Saiyan Blue.
It's going to be like Gohan where he can increase his ki while staying in the base form without the need for transformation. Mastering UI in the base form means that there wouldn't be a need for a transformation.. However then you look at Beast Gohan.. Where there is that Saiyan beast inside that allows to unlock a further form... This by default is Gokus only other additional increase I believe.. Like a Beast form of UI
I really think that he and Vegeta will get they're tails back since whis was talking about them mastering they're own race power. So it would be cool to see ssj4 and since ssj blue is the ssj form of ssj God, then it's technically possible to get blue 2,3 and 4 plus he can put UI on tip of those since UI is a technique
i been saying this since the first second that ui came. i know the manga makes ui hair gray when he masters it but i think the original idea was to go back to his base form in a sense so he could then apply super saiyan ontop of ui. kinda like with kaioken and especially with the manga tying his saiyan heritage to improving ui. i would not be suprised if they have it so he does super saiyain over ui at one point. since ui is essentially not a power boost but just being one with ur body and being so one that it makes fighting second nature like breathing. so having super saiyan on top of that would make sense as a power boost.
I think that Goku and Vegeta will have to fuse eventually using their respective powers to face a larger threat than before and it’ll give a glimpse into the original god
Y'know the thing is, Toyotarō DID create his own Dragon Ball AF manga with SSJ5, so it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for him to re-add SSJ4 and combine it with UI just to get a white SSJ4 as a nod to SSJ5.
Goku himself said he thought he reached his peak, but then he met Broly, Goku believes whatever Broly’s peak is, he can also reach that power, mind you Broly is only using his Saiyan heritage, and no God Ki, that includes UI which is the technique of the gods. That means the Saiyans have alot more to achieve.
ui is a technique and the form is a transformation of his saiyan body's ability to adapt to be able to do the technique because his regular body would've been destroyed so technically he can still have a new transformation stronger while using UI to be able to use the new transformation at it's fullest
I agree with everyone else. He gets his tail back, turns Great Ape, then SS4. He realizes that his body is ready to ascend to SS5 with TUI/MUI constantly active. Vegeta could do the same with SS4 + GoD so his SS5 form is purple and black with the brow of GoD.
remembering his parents and him getting his saiyan personality back after getting a somewhat amnesia which got rid of his aggressiveness and memories vegeta proves that saiyan pride can bring you far hence getting ssj blue evolved or what i like to called it ssj blue 2 (ssj 2 is just like ssj 1 but with higher power and spiky hair) which helped him somewhat push jiren back so after mastering UI with him getting his full personality back i imagens he'll master the omni king power
i feel like something could happen like goku combining the form version of ui and forms to make entirely new ones. he used the technique, not the form when he did with god
It would be cool if mui and some ssj transformation would combine like ssjg + ssj it could be mui + ssj4 to create ssj 5 or something maybe ssj4 mui it would be cool but he would need to get ssj4 so
You know what I hope? I hope once Goku masters UI (again), dragon ball ends. He doesnt need another new transformation. Going on and on for too long will hurt the series as a whole. Dragon Ball had its fun
Ssj4 would be the best transformation for the end bc goku is now crossing into the angel side of his power so once that is completed he may have to fight his most powerful foe yet and to defeat them, he has to tap back into his saiyan power and go back to his saiyan roots where he will learn ssj4 and defeat this enemy thanks to his newfound power. An example may be freiza as the villain due to him being able to grow in power fast. For the very end of all of dragon ball, it could be that this foe has been defeated but they need to destroy the dragon balls to ensure that they cannot come back yet to do that, someone must destroy them and be destroyed in the process and for this, goku will sacrifice himself. If you read the whole thing then Tysm and have an amazing day.
They actualy kinda set something up, hope they actualy use it. He could at some point fuse ui in his normal transformation further boosting them. Then his strongest would be mui ssjblue with kaioken as a multiplier. They could then make the other ssj form into blue, since blue is basicaly just ssj but with god ki. That way his "final" form would be ssj3 blue with kaioken, the culmination of all forms. Tje stages of ssj, the god ki, ui and even kaioken in one combination. Making all the old forms and trainign relevant again
Goku really does have bardocks Saiyan pride + the cocky smirk i guess goku really does have bardocks type of side inside him who knows i don't know but seeing Goro(correct me if wrong) remember and realize that Goku looked exactly like bardock with that smile Goku made.
Honestly ssj 4 proved the ultra instinct concept before super in his foght against shin. It such an awesome looking form combined with the UI of super would be a insane combo that would just be super cool 😎
I actually thought about it when i saw that TRUE UI i thought about if he could bring his transformations to it. Especially when this UI is a technique not a transformation. And whis said that he can find his own way through this technique. Not only using that technique. A SSJG with the UI would be so insane. The speed will increase cuz ssjg has the speed advantage.
Ssj5...years of childhood finally fulfilled
I’m more of a fusion guy so I’m going for SsjB4
@yo-goku827 you heard me, super Saiyan 4 combined with Super Saiyan Blue
(Which could probably handle a 50x Kaioken)
For the last time, It's NOT ssj5, it's called Spirit Killer
@@creeper4481 super saiyan god x 50 = super saiyan god super saiyan = super saiyan blue .
then, super saiyan god super saiyan 4 = ssjb4 = ssjgss x 4000 = ssjb x (4000 : 50) so it's too overpowered
Ssj 5 mui will be the last form of dbs 3 if ssj 5 appears
I really hope to see ssj4 become canon someday
I thought that transformation was only possible with a tail
@@koldholliday599no, it's easier and less complicated with a tail, but is possible without one
@@carland2018 No you need the tail
Already is
@@DrumicallWhere is Vegeta's tail in GT then?
I can really see Goku combining MUI or UI with his super saiyan transformations. He was kind of already doing it in the Manga but I'd love to see him stack it on his forms as if it was Kaio-Ken.
He can’t use mui/pui with any saiyan forms. Mui and pui require a calm heart and mind. His saiyan forms are enhanced his anger. The way to go would be true ui with his saiyan forms because he was really angry fighting gas
@@Topg924 So im an anime only watcher. what exactly are these mui pui tui and so on?
@@dustini7 mui is mastered ultra instinct and the white haired form he used against jiren. He needs to be calm to use it.
Pui is a perfected ultra instinct and he uses that against someone called moro. It is very similar to mui but there’s no aura showing goku has perfected it. He needs to be calm to use it.
Tui is true ultra instinct and looks a lot like ui sign but it’s a lot more powerful. Goku can get saiyan rage boosts in this form because it uses his saiyan pride.
@@Topg924forgot that gokus tui is weaker than pui but since he doesn’t have to stay calm he can draw out more power is situations that he uses his emotions in
@@wyserichardson7477 the auto dodge is definitely a little less effective but the form itself is stronger
After UI he gets bold that is the final stage of power
Then he gets slapped by someone stronger unlocking a new transformation
@@spritemon98yep lmao
@@spritemon98why is this comment actually true
Bold?
@@spritemon98he loses his ass hair
I would really love it if they incorporate ssj4 as the final saiyan form, which utilizes both godly power and the calm mind of ui.
I'd like that for both Goku and Vegeta, imagine a Ssj 4 with white furr and the other with purple
@@jesusmateososa9287I could see that happening when the unlock ssj4 and and godly ki to the form
That’ll be awesome because it shows that he tapped into both his Saiyan heritage combined with godly powers and mastering both.
That dont even make sense bc ssj4 is similar to ape where they don’t needa tail and if they could somehow go ssj4 without one they be calm bc ssj4 is like great ape where they l kinda go berserk
@@El_Potato69didnt they train to master ssj by being calm during the transformation? Maybe the same could apply but I really don’t know how they’ll explain a fusion of transformations.. maybe ssj4 will be a new base form? Idk.
Super Saiyan 5 would make so much more sense now in the story. He could unlock supersaiyan 4 and use it for a while then combine ultra instinct with it and it would be like supersaiyan 5
@shellmorton9860 bro calm down I’m saying that it would make so much more sense and you can’t stop the show from having more transformations. It’s dragon ball for the love of god.
@shellmorton9860 and you know damn well they will continue to drag it on so instead of complaining about it I find it better that we just try to guess or come up with our own hypothesis about it. We may not like how it’s going or what they do but there’s no point in getting pissed that they continued it when we know they still will
@shellmorton9860 bro I’m literally the one tryna say how we don’t have to like what dragon ball is doing how am I the one pressed over an anime opinion 💀💀 and aren’t you the one pressed because I stated my opinion about super saiyan 5 💀💀
@shellmorton9860 I don’t really want the show to continue I hope they just hurry and get their final forms and goku and vegeta have a final fight, but like I said this is DB they are going to milk this show dry for as long as possible
@shellmorton9860more techniques instead
To be fair, Whis told Goku to discover who he really is. That's the basis of his power.
He'll never abandon his Saiyan power. The transformations are such due to the Saiyan's ability to evolve, to adapt. Hence why god ki gives him SSJG transformations and MUI allows Goku to tap into the state of the angels.
Love to see ssj4 and 5 one day in cannon
I hope there is another tournament of power where goku achieves TUI 3
ah we need 200 ui
At first "Ultra instinct" sounded cool but now when there's a family tree of that version, nah it's not the same anymore.
Wow I thought I was the only one that thought about that transformation
@@theboywiththetorterramask nah I keep having dreams about it, and in my dream the grand priest jumps in and randomly decides to fight goku and then goku dies because his power was too powerful to be handled by a mortal
Ultra instinct is a technique not a transformation That’s why he can use transformations and the technique@@theboywiththetorterramask
I think that if they do make SS4 canon, they’re going to do it with Broly. I get the feeling he’s gonna go down the path of pursuing his raw power. He more than has the Ki for it, it’s just for him, it’s more of a matter of learning how to control it.
That Super Saiyan 5 animations look clean!
In fact, it would be cool to destroy it like this: a villain appears who knows how to block the divine ki. Then Goku should develop as a Sayan and the author should introduce SSJ 4 Limit Breaker into the canon. After completing the arch, give Goku a reason to think about developing his own strength, not just the UI, and then impose a divine ki on SSJ 4 LB. To get something like SSJ4LB Blue tt. And then introduce some very strong opponent like a dark angel in tandem with the God of Destruction and force Goku to develop the UI to a Perfect True UI (something like the strongest MUI, but with the ability to connect emotions as in TUI). And then combine SSJ4LB Blue and PTUI. To fix all this by some manipulation with dragon balls (after all, the anime about them was originally). And use Kayo-ken with a large multiplier, as well as Dragon Fist. It seems to me that with this power Goku will be above all the angels and, maybe, breathe into the back of the Grand Priest.
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Whis already said Goku would reach a power greater than UI, & even greater than that. So who knows what his true power really is.
I’m hoping for a SSJ4 type transformation. Something calling back to the Oozaru is so cool! (Plus Paragus mentions in the movie that Broly’s “rage” transformation is like him using the Oozaru but not transforming 👀)
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I would think it would end up being a ssb type situation, where he can go super saiyan whilst in the UI state
No that's not how that work. He used UI while he was in blue on manga so he can use it in any transformation without showing it
That would be boring as they already did with super Saiyan God,we really really a ssj4 type of transformation
@@ssjshivamngl but ssj6 would be sick
@@ssjshivamssj6 is ssj4 but blonde
@@ssjshivamtheres also the C type ssj6 wich is Black and i dont know why
He is going to incorporate TUI into his base form and be able to stack ALL of his transformations on top of it.. Kinda like how SS God did. So get ready for a soft reboot on the saiyan forms with the cool dodging of UI. I really hope that is the way it goes
I just hope that they go in the ss4 direction after it’s all said and done
Bring it every single drop of saiyan greatness and push even further for power
Let ui b the reason ss3 can work as a sustainable transformation a form that can be mastered and then bring forth ss4 ……it will feel natural and deserved
Wtf ssj4 is wrost transformation never I don't want see ssj4
@@masterultrainstincti2883 worst how?
@Hakoda216 normal is ugly maybe is nature of saiyan but I don't like this form
Ssj 4 would be a cool aspect for them to work on canonically as mui on ssj4 would look sick
We will see him use forms he wouldn’t typically use like ssj3 with UI. That would cancel out the ki drain cause he’s got 100% focus with it
That ui ssj4 looks absolutely amazing. I would kill for them to actually do something like that in cannon
I think his final form would be his base form
Gokus final form should be him regaining the great ape power and mixing it with SSJ and MUI. The way its going it looks like hes going to have regular black hair and silver eyes. If he gains the Akari form and mixes it with SSJ and mastered true UI. Then he'd have a similar form to Kale/Kefla but with a silver hue added so more an avocado green than lime green. So mastered UI on top of the 1000× multiplier of controlled legendary ssj
His next transformation could be Ultra Saiyan. (Combining UI's God power with Super Saiyan)
And the appearance would be really cool if they adapted Super Saiyan 4
He already did that in the Moro and grsn😅arc
I am just hoping for ssj4 with aura and colour of mui that will look dope 🥺
Considering their focusing on his origins it would be nice to see ssj4 possibly make an appearance even tho it may not be as strong as blue or muj it could be almost like ssj1 how he doesn’t ever fully go all out at the start
It will be what ever Akira Toriama wishes it to be
Technically, the manga and toei animation are creating their own stories. The manga has a lot of approval from toriyama. However, toei animation doesn't seem to be respecting the manga (given that they haven't adapted later parts of the manga and instead released 2 movies that had nothing to do with the manga)
So now the manga has to catch up and adapt those 2 movies and somehow make them canon.
I believe toriyama likes the direction the manga is heading a lot more than the anime but he doesn't own the anime rights
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When it comes to ssj4 I personally think it'll be a step back from the direction they are taking with Supers story. However if he does achieve his own version of Ui it would be cool if the god ki took form as "ssj4" but not ssj4 if that makes sense. If they were to bring back the actual transformation I think it'll be a cool exclusive form for Broly since the transformation states they take the power of the Gizaru and harness it instead of turning into the great ape, which Broly was stated to have done in the movie. Which imo would perfectly round off every Saiyan's powers perfectly, Goku with Ui, Vegeta with UE, Gohan with Beast, Broly with SSJ4, giving each of them their own identity and powers that truly match who they are as characters and how they each utilize their abilities.
After UI, I suggest that he combines his anger, calm of heart into a new,form called Super Ultra Instinct, (combination of ui and super saiyan)
That's a really interesting idea
Maybe,after that goku could achieve
Super ui 2 and 3 maybe also a 4th version of it 🤔🤔🤔
Didn't he already achieve something like that in the manga?
@@The-Stitchyea he managed to use ssjg and ui together i believe
I think he will add Super Saiyan to UI like he did with SSJ God and SSJ Blue(SSJ God was like a new base form with God Ki and SSJ Blue is when he added Super Saiyan to it so i think he will use UI like a base form to add Super Saiyan to it).
Now that he can feel his emotions in UI he could master the technique and add Super Saiyan to it without losing the UI form due to rage.
Would be interesting if the powers and boost of true ui become his base form and be able to use new or old forms with the added boost of true ui
imagine Super Saiyan Blue KaiokenX100 on top of True UI 💀 bro could probably destroy Whis
I haven't finished Granolah arc yet so idk if he already can or not
@@XalioXantar I doubt he'd be able to beat Whis, but would definitely be near Beerus' power if not comparable or above
One transformation I wanna see happen if it’s even possible, is a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2. It would probably be on par with MUI
SSJ Brown,Orange,Legendary,False UI,
Kk20xUI,MUI,TUI
We don’t need a transformation for a while. I wish we can just use what we have no and perfect those. It was so nice to see the build up ascending the SSJ transformation and finally getting SSJ2 at the end of cell arc
I would like to point out that if Super Saiyan Blue, aka SSGSS, is possible, then shouldn’t it be possible to stack SSJ2 and 3 onto SSG as well?
There is no point
Ssjb kaioken is stronger than ssjb2 and ssjb3. Unless he can use kaioken with those, they're pointless.
@jacobblakely2224 even then it would be far too straining on the body to use considering how long it took just to make kayoken blue more casually usable
Ssj blue full power is that and more
@@jacobblakely2224 blue kaioken doesn't exist in the manga
Goku going SSJ4 and stacking UI on it would be the best way to actually make super Saiyan 4 cannon. Maybe with a different name. But they should really make it canon now. It's the form that is most connected to a Saiyan. And Goku finally discovering his Saiyan roots and achieving the form would be the best way for him to actually master the UI technique without actually loosing his Saiyan side
Goku strongest form 😂
Imagine that white hair of super saiyan 5 we're due to him using MUI😅😅
canon or not but the SSJ4 is by far and away the coolest look in the DB universe...... ever.
Whatever it may be, I hope it’s unique to only Goku.
At this point everyone should have their own personal transformation.
Hi DBHype to next form is the universal blue u can see in DBS Heroes
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Imagine like, Mui starts being a new base form so Goku be able to create new forms, example:
Ssj 1
With Ui as a new base it would be
Ssj1 Mui.
Basically Mui but with Ssj1 hair and aura color.
Nothing is left but to make super saiyan 4 canon 😈😈😈
I kinda hoped that Ultra Instinct would just be the final transformation and trump card for every fight… but then Frieza had to come along and one shot Goku AND Vegeta in UI and UE sooo idk. If there are going to be any more transformations, which I’m sure there will be, I would absolutely love to see SSJ4 become canon.
I wouldn't mind Super Saiyan 4 being cannon. One of my favorite forms, because the design is unexpected.
How much plot armor do we give him?
The creator: yes
Goku combing super saiyan forms and god forms with ui would make it easier on goku and he wouldn’t have to worry about his emotions getting in the way and maintaining a very high level of power
Imagine it’s just the same forms but the multipliers are just incredibly boosted
Honestly, I want ssj4 to be canon in some way with a design pretty much the same as it was in GT cuz it looks bussin
Ive always pictured a very subdued "perfect goku" without all the flash and hair. Probably a white gi and no hair at all with a slight white aura. The perfect versions of other characters were always more sleek and simpler in design. The Perfect form does not express its power outwardly, simply a calm and tranquil god.
My current expectation is that with Goku having Ultra Instinct and Vegeta having Ultra Ego, they'll eventually fuse and Vegito will achieve a form that combines both powers. Something like Ultra Balance or whatever. As a result of experiencing that, the two of them will begin working to achieve this state without having to fuse, which will lead to them both unlocking this form individually.
Though honestly I've always liked the idea that if Goku were to take the time to master Super Saiyan 2 and 3 like he does with Super Saiyan just prior to the Cell games, eventually their energy consumption and usability would become effortless too and that this in turn would allow him to access a similar state with Super Saiyan Blue.
Ui + ssj4 = our childhood version of ssj5
They'll never quit milking those transformations
Brolly is the only one that can technically get ssj4 because he can use his great ape powers without a tale and without transforming
It's going to be like Gohan where he can increase his ki while staying in the base form without the need for transformation. Mastering UI in the base form means that there wouldn't be a need for a transformation.. However then you look at Beast Gohan.. Where there is that Saiyan beast inside that allows to unlock a further form... This by default is Gokus only other additional increase I believe.. Like a Beast form of UI
I really think that he and Vegeta will get they're tails back since whis was talking about them mastering they're own race power. So it would be cool to see ssj4 and since ssj blue is the ssj form of ssj God, then it's technically possible to get blue 2,3 and 4 plus he can put UI on tip of those since UI is a technique
A combination of godly ki with saiyan power, awesome
Ssj3 with ultra instinct would be beautiful
SSJ4 being his final transformation with God Ki would be nice …
i been saying this since the first second that ui came. i know the manga makes ui hair gray when he masters it but i think the original idea was to go back to his base form in a sense so he could then apply super saiyan ontop of ui. kinda like with kaioken and especially with the manga tying his saiyan heritage to improving ui. i would not be suprised if they have it so he does super saiyain over ui at one point. since ui is essentially not a power boost but just being one with ur body and being so one that it makes fighting second nature like breathing. so having super saiyan on top of that would make sense as a power boost.
UI should be his peak, no new forms after this.
It's been stated multiple times, that a saiyan's potential is limitless so there will always be something moree
Of course they are sayain who grow limitlessly like Vegeta said.
Seeing infinity or ssj5 (super Saiyan of ssj4) would be a really cool new transformation
Amazing video
Bro if they really pull out SS5 with the white hair I think we’d all lose it. After all those years of seeing it on the internet 😂
I think that Goku and Vegeta will have to fuse eventually using their respective powers to face a larger threat than before and it’ll give a glimpse into the original god
Ui just with his hair looking like a ss4
Y'know the thing is, Toyotarō DID create his own Dragon Ball AF manga with SSJ5, so it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for him to re-add SSJ4 and combine it with UI just to get a white SSJ4 as a nod to SSJ5.
Goku himself said he thought he reached his peak, but then he met Broly, Goku believes whatever Broly’s peak is, he can also reach that power, mind you Broly is only using his Saiyan heritage, and no God Ki, that includes UI which is the technique of the gods. That means the Saiyans have alot more to achieve.
ui is a technique and the form is a transformation of his saiyan body's ability to adapt to be able to do the technique because his regular body would've been destroyed so technically he can still have a new transformation stronger while using UI to be able to use the new transformation at it's fullest
He's most likely probably gonna make super ultra instinct or something
Imagine his final form for the series is just mui with the ssj hair style
Always loved Goku ssj hair the most so that would be sick
It'd be cool to see "Ssj5" become the canok ssj4 the white hair of UI along with the primal saiyan hair and tail would be cool
Omni god next transformation❤❤
I agree with everyone else. He gets his tail back, turns Great Ape, then SS4. He realizes that his body is ready to ascend to SS5 with TUI/MUI constantly active. Vegeta could do the same with SS4 + GoD so his SS5 form is purple and black with the brow of GoD.
remembering his parents and him getting his saiyan personality back after getting a somewhat amnesia which got rid of his aggressiveness and memories vegeta proves that saiyan pride can bring you far hence getting ssj blue evolved or what i like to called it ssj blue 2 (ssj 2 is just like ssj 1 but with higher power and spiky hair) which helped him somewhat push jiren back so after mastering UI with him getting his full personality back i imagens he'll master the omni king power
i feel like something could happen like goku combining the form version of ui and forms to make entirely new ones. he used the technique, not the form when he did with god
It would be cool if mui and some ssj transformation would combine like ssjg + ssj it could be mui + ssj4 to create ssj 5 or something maybe ssj4 mui it would be cool but he would need to get ssj4 so
Maybe it's gonna be a Kaio-ken ultra instinct.
Ssj4 has to become canon at some point
Black lizard: "no way that monkey can beat my n*gga form"
Goku: "then im white form"💀
You know what I hope? I hope once Goku masters UI (again), dragon ball ends. He doesnt need another new transformation. Going on and on for too long will hurt the series as a whole. Dragon Ball had its fun
Ssj4 would be the best transformation for the end bc goku is now crossing into the angel side of his power so once that is completed he may have to fight his most powerful foe yet and to defeat them, he has to tap back into his saiyan power and go back to his saiyan roots where he will learn ssj4 and defeat this enemy thanks to his newfound power. An example may be freiza as the villain due to him being able to grow in power fast. For the very end of all of dragon ball, it could be that this foe has been defeated but they need to destroy the dragon balls to ensure that they cannot come back yet to do that, someone must destroy them and be destroyed in the process and for this, goku will sacrifice himself. If you read the whole thing then Tysm and have an amazing day.
I think he'll simply combine UI with other transformations, like SSGSS UI.
Would like to see a super saiyan version of MUI. Like super saiyan but with silver hair
They actualy kinda set something up, hope they actualy use it.
He could at some point fuse ui in his normal transformation further boosting them. Then his strongest would be mui ssjblue with kaioken as a multiplier.
They could then make the other ssj form into blue, since blue is basicaly just ssj but with god ki.
That way his "final" form would be ssj3 blue with kaioken, the culmination of all forms.
Tje stages of ssj, the god ki, ui and even kaioken in one combination. Making all the old forms and trainign relevant again
I hope we get a SSJ+UI Transformation like how they combined SSG with SSJ
Pairing blue with ultra instinct would be cool
Goku's final form will probably be his base. Not like Ultimate Gohan in Z, but REALLY his base. The ED for the tournament of power foreshadowed it
Keep Ui but add minor aspects of SS4 like the eyes or some fur to add depth in the design.
Goku really does have bardocks Saiyan pride + the cocky smirk i guess goku really does have bardocks type of side inside him
who knows i don't know but seeing Goro(correct me if wrong) remember and realize that Goku looked exactly like bardock with that smile Goku made.
With TUI, he could combine it with his saiyan transformations, or even with mui, he could combine it with ssjg and ssjb, aswell as with kiaoken.
Honestly ssj 4 proved the ultra instinct concept before super in his foght against shin. It such an awesome looking form combined with the UI of super would be a insane combo that would just be super cool 😎
ss4 stacked with the ui capabilities as all they should get as the last transformation
I actually thought about it when i saw that TRUE UI i thought about if he could bring his transformations to it. Especially when this UI is a technique not a transformation. And whis said that he can find his own way through this technique. Not only using that technique. A SSJG with the UI would be so insane. The speed will increase cuz ssjg has the speed advantage.
If only people would value his transformations more instead of being powerhungry for more transformations
Hopefully the manga continues so we will get more forms or see what will happen to dragon balls Goku in the future