That and the bitterness in the reboot’s writing. The show seems to hate its old and current fans. Plus, the fact they used a make a wish kid as a meat shield. The hate is honestly justified but not for the usual reasons
@Leeloo_the_foxthey know and mention it in the series with this one villain who can control tvs It’s not as lame as it sounds lol he can pop out of it see the 4th wall come out of the tv etc
Uncle Grandpa was ahead of its time. People EAT UP surrealist/non-sequitur humor nowadays, and had it come out today (and on Adult Swim), I think the reception would be VERY different.
I shall never forgive the cartoon community for slandering Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. Not every cartoon needs to have a grand story and can be great while focusing exclusively on comedy!
Let’s not get it twisted, they’re nothing special. Not even in CN’s top 50. But let’s not pretend they haven’t made worse and shows that had less effort and passion LMAO
I’ve always held the opinion that Uncle Grandpa would’ve been way less shat on during it’s initial run if it aired alongside Chowder and The Misadventures Of Flapjack. The show has a lot of great comedic bits that are often overlooked. The Beary Nice and Hotdog Person segments are delightfully fucked up.
Yeah I never got why uncle grandpa got so much hate when rlly it has basically the same sense of humor as Chowder, which is beloved (The creator worked on Chowder and wrote some of the most popular gags) I don’t think uncle grandpa is as good as Chowder but still
Ugh. I hated Teen Titans Go too, but eventually once Cartoon Network stopped obsessively airing it I gave up and moved on after the initial “What the hell is this?” reaction. How has the hatred lived longer than the reason why it started?! The Pat…no, no, forget it, the show is O.K.
Hate is a strong word, I feel repulsed by it. My initial rejection came from how the O.G. TT series got axed and seemingly this skin walker of a show came in its place. The voice actors are the same, it contains many of the same gags the original series had, but those gags were a small part of the OG series, brief moments of levity interspaced with interesting and sometimes series topics/stories. Insult to injury, there are brief moments where they tease that the "GO" team might actually... go... do hero stuff, cause ya know they are all teen super hero/side kicks. But then it quickly moves on at the speed of ADHD. It really is skin walking, its wearing the personality, quirks and flavor of TT, but its not. The comics of TT had them doing hero things, the OG animation had them doing hero things, GO? might as well be looney toons with a side of teen drama painted with a TT pallete. I might have just been indifferent had the OG TT coexisted alongside the GO version, like a way to show the wacky day to day hijinks of some very special teens as a bigger levity break between the angst of the OG series. But no, it was replaced. So I find the series repulsive, because it is coopted, like gaming, like every geek hobby, yet another thing taken over and hollowed out.
@@svenstevenson2245Teen Titans Go did not "come in the original's place" It was clearly a separate thing and was made like 8 years after the original ended. There is no obligation for it to be like the original. It has the original cast, yes, but there are clearly no intentions to take the characters as seriously as the original show. It's simply not meant for you.
The main reasons TTG was hated 1.- OG Teen Titans was cancelled, and the idea of a new teen titans show as good, except instead they got a random show for little kids 2.- It was overused by CN, many people dont even cared about TTG, but when you're a fan of another CN show , and you know your favorite show was being pushed or cancelled for a marathon of 75% airtime of TTG, that pissed you off 3.- It made fun of people's missing the OG Teen Titans, and that just fanned the fire of people who hate it and people who didnt care until then. Personally i don't feel like TTG was a bad show in comedy, but i feel like they could've accomplished something as good had they chosen another IP. Honestly every episode that referenced the original show only to make fun of it just felt like poking the hornet nest of hate. Remove that and it's pretty harmless.
I feel it does have some good episodes and gags The problem is that they did it with the titans (who they also made into unlikable selfish idiots for a lot of episodes) and they also spammed the show so Damm much while making fun of the upset fans who missed the old show
Honestly, the first 2 where me. After that I just moved on with life and enjoyed watching the classics. I only watched maybe 2 episodes of TTG because of being in a hotel and I was bored. The Two I watched where pretty funny, but left me feeling like I ate a bag of chips by my self. I had its merits, but absolutely was not my cup of tea. Also funny because I thought it was relatively liked across the board because it was everywhere and everyone I talked to loved the show, and any RUclipsr I had watched talked (in passing) about it in a good light.
I’ll be honest, I mostly ignored TTG, but my annoyance mostly came from CN filling up their entire schedule with just TTG until Adult Swim came on. But that’s more on CN.
@@nellewoodruff6337 eh I hated CN for making it on so much but doubly so because I hated the actual show with a passion and didn't even know at the time there was an og teen titans
It just came out at the wrong time. It was also airing at the same time as Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Regular Show and it was the complete opposite of those shows earning it a lot of ire it didn't deserve. If Uncle Grandpa came out now or CN brought the show back for reruns like they have been doing with Clarence, I think it would preform soooo much better.
Never hated Uncle Grandpa, even as a 13 y/o who followed a few cartoon reviewers at the time. It wasn't a GREAT show, but it was wacky, harmless fun. And unlike, say, the Titans from Go!, Uncle G himself was a nice (if kinda weird) guy who wanted to help kids feel better about themselves half the time. I haven't watched it since then (& tbh, I don't have a strong desire to either, no shade), but I'll always member it as a fine addition to CN's lineup back in the day...
I remember ttg originally being advertised as just "the titans on their day off" or whatever and for the first season, it was actually pretty accurate to that and I enjoyed it a decent ammount, I just got tired of the show when Robin being bullied or his ass were 90% of the jokes
If uncle grandpa aired in the 90s people would be praising it today as peak animation and saying shit like "damn they dont make cartoons like this anymore"
The sheer level of hatred TTG got made it damn near impossible to give an honest opinion on it for a very long time. I didn't particularly care for it, but I was almost embarrassed to ever admit that given the absolute sea of hatred the show was drowning in.
The company kinda deserves that hate not the cartoonists cos u cant just change the personalities of beloved characters, if u want new style develop new characters or make the older characters go thru character development to change into new one, maybe idk all the teen titan heroes are hynotised to act silly
I'm gonna be frank TTG is a Mid show at best, when they lean less on having the characters being so annoying/unlikable and lean more into the DC lore, it can be pretty good. But I'll play devil's advocate and say that most of the hate it has gottten besides the usual complaints is that CN has treated it as it golden show, and has repeatedly aired marathons of it on their network way too much a while back and really got people upset.
I still rerember the times were i used to watch allot of cartoon network. But ever since teen titans go dropped it (im not even making this up) would be airing teen titans go almost the entire day, sometimes unikitty (that show also sucks ass) and in the evening it would air gumball (the only actually good show ive named so far) and the good shows like steven universe, adventure time, regular show, Clarence would air between fucking 1:00 am - 5:00 am. Who the fuck came up with this? Who is gonna watch Clarence on 2 am?
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 honestly, I couldn’t tell if Cartoon Network was trolling people with those marathons or deliberately trying to kill other shows with them
Xavier Renegade Angel had a method to its nonsense. Uncle Grandpa reeks of a boomer executive making what he thinks kids will like. Poo Poo comparison.
I think a big reason both Teen Titans Go and Uncle Grandpa were so reviled is because most Cartoon Network shows from the late 2000s/early 2010s were really mature and adult. Regular Show was an absurdist workplace comedy about twenty-year-olds. Adventure Time often had deeply mature themes, tempered by silliness, but genuine depth. Teen Titans had the same depth, incredible animation, and even their silly episodes had a mature tone. Scooby Doo Mystery Inc and Young Justice both had overaching storylines and mature themes. Generator Rex, Samurai Jack, Green Lantern TAS, Star Wars the Clone Wars... CN's entire block, for half a formative generation, was mature storytelling, expansive themes, serious tones, and mature animation. That all got replaced by pale, stupid, dated imitations of previous shows and pure comedies that incorporated a lot of random equals hilarious humor. I distinctly remember hating these shows because they weren't the kinds of shows I grew up with, just obnoxious kids stuff.
To be fair, I do distinctly remember when TTG was first starting the people marketing it said TTG and Teen Titans were one in the same. TTG was 'What the Titans do when they're not fighting crime' which probably sparked the initial backlash and hatred for it.
I just want to point out Teen Titans GO has a skit where the 60s teen titans fight President Nixon with the help of the ghost of John F Kennedy. While I don’t think teen titans go is good, I do congratulate them for that one skit.
Funny enough, I think alot of the hate for Uncle Grandpa came about from Steven Universe fans, cause their show had a crossover with Uncle G, and it made fun of some things on Steven Universe (like UG being Rose, the "ship" sinking of Lars and Saddie, etc.), and while I do think Uncle G is good, I can see why people don't like its comedy As for TTG, I used to be someone who hated it big time (esp. when it took up all of CN's schedule for no reason), but I just stopped caring, and let it go. It's pretty easy to do
When it comes to Uncle Grandpa, I think another big reason people hated it was the crossover episode with Steven Universe. This was back during the early days of SU, when it was showered with praise. Seeing Uncle Grandpa take the piss out of a more serious show like Steven Universe, pissed a lot of people off. It’s a shame because that episode was really funny
@USANATV2007 Just like for these shows. I remember when Johnny Test hate was everywhere and how overblown it was. Now TTG especially has unseated it as the number one most hated cartoon.
One reason for the massive hatedome around Teen Titans Go-which strangely, you brought up but didn’t connect as a reason-is that very piss-yellow chart at 6:36. A lot of people who didn’t even hate the show that much DID hate having it forced upon them for hours, days, or weeks on end if they wanted to watch Cartoon Network at all. It’s not a GOOD reason to hate the show but it’s at least a little more than “this isn’t like the original Teen Titans.”
I remember, for a while, the standard positive critique for anything on Cartoon Network was saying it’s better than Teen Titans Go. Whenever a show got canceled, they kept asking why Titty G wasn’t canceled. Even when (most of the time) said show was worse. Ex trip moon.
you're so correct about the weird sheep mentality a lot of cartoon fans have. i remember i was really young when all the teen titans go hate was being spread around and i was a really huge fan of the show, but then i saw like one singular video on how it sucks and i was suddenly stuck on the idea that this show i used to love was actually reallu bad the whole time. i remember it escallated to me telling everyone at school to stop watching it and they all just immediately agreed
Teen Titans is the Fortnite of cartoons. A loud minority hates the hell out of it--some of the hate makes sense--but it continues to go and has only become bigger over the years Also, I might get hung for this, but I actually enjoyed Uncle Grandpa
I will always love uncle grandpa. almost every day, i watched uncle grandpa with my grandpa, and he absolutely loved it and laughed alot to it. it has a special place in my heart and without a doubt one of my favourite cartoons ever. also dont worry, my grandpa is doing good :)
Uncle Grandpa is great imo. A goated series with goated characters. Mr Gus, Pizza Steve, Belly Bag, GRFT, Tiny Miracle, Beary Nice, Hotdog Person, Evil Wizard, and obviously...Uncle Grandpa are hilarious characters and are worth the watch. I thank Pete Browngardt for making such a coke induced series that played a big part of my chilhood.
The patrick star show controversy is funny because even the smoking gun doesn't really hold up Because in fairness to Paul Tibbet, it was made clear that he thought camp coral was gonna be a NickJr spin-off for babies In the quote he gives from Hillenburg he's mocking the idea of a 'SpongeBob babies' Like Looney Tunes babies And after the series actually came out Tibbet was asked about what he thought of it and he admitted the show wasn't what he thought it would be, praised it for sticking to the tone and humor of the main series and said he liked it. It's insane to me that anyone still tries to use Paul as a point against the show when the guy they're weaponising said he liked it
My view on it is the same. It's not the worst animated show or anything on CN, but I do think it's one of the worst animated shows CURRENTLY airing new eps at the moment
My favorite part of TTG was the whole B.E.R phase, it was really interesting and the designs were…something! Like, it’s the main thing I remember about the show besides Robin getting shit on. (and also Robin’s brother who lived in his eye..? Still don’t understand what that was about, to be fair…) I just wished the writer would lean into the genuinely better parts Cartoonshi referred to rather than some of the more…strange bits. (Referring to the whole Raven power up scene in the TTG movie…and the focus on butt humor.)
It probably was the HBO Max purge that flipped people’s opinions on Uncle Grandpa, helped by the powerscaling community of all places. This led to people watching the show in hindsight and appreciating it more as a result. Also, I unironically think the “Lady Legasus” episodes from TTG are some of the best. Writer’s barely disguised fetish and it’s hilarious. I enjoy the moments with allusions to the wider DC universe. Can’t say much about the Patrick Start Show, but having binged Alex Bale’s theories, the show is cool for trying to piece together lore tidbits and the like.
I used to watcy Teen Titans Go all the time when I was younger, much to the dismay of my mother and brother. I never understood how it was so hated, I always thought it was a good show. I'm quite happy to see someone who isnt relentlessly bashing the show
Honestly, I never really understood the hate that Uncle Grandpa had. Maybe it's because I watched it a lot growing up, but UG was one of my most favorite shows on Cartoon Network. I'd place it right next to Adventure Time, TAWOG, MAD, and TDI in terms on how good it was.
The only reason I could think Uncle Grandpa was hated is maybe because it was technically a "successor" to Secret Mountain Fort Awesome. The Uncle Grandpa episode of that show was basically a Pilot for the series and with how bad of a reception SMFA got, people were VERY skeptical
Teen Titans Go may have immature humor and cringey moments sometimes, but I grew up with it and I look back on the episodes I loved as a kid quite fondly. I also think that the Teen Titans Go movies are unironically good lmao. And while I think the original Teen Titans is absolutely awesome, Teen Titans Go is going for a completely different demographic, yet people acted like they shat on the Mona Lisa or something
Cause it did. No matter how you look it, the comparisons will be made because the characters look strikingly similar and the TTG is 10 times more immature. It's frustrating that garbage got to continue when the original was so amazing, even now. It doesn't matter if it was made by other people, the idea is just insult. Also, I don't believe the original marketing helped if I remember correctly. They did reference the original TT.
The characters are even inconsistent within the show itself. One moment one character will be serious about something (Which would in a normal situation be stupid but this is TTG so you know something is gonna happen) while the rest don't care or are dismisive of it then its another character then another.
It's insane that Teen Titans Go is 10 yrs old, and it is still going on today. Also the fact that this series eats up the entire schedule on CN. Even I was on the hate wagon too, but after years later I stopped hating it.
You're telling me that I've been gaslit that the crew and cast have been mocking fans of the OG TT for simply wanting it back, but in reality, mocking "fans" who attacked the cast and crew, sending death threats to them for just working on thebshow they hate simply because its not the original show? Who would've figured
Also what else contributed to the hate on TTG def had to be the animated short that was made before TTG came out and it kinda lowkeyy gave TT fans false hope that the original show was finna be back.
I always love how level-headed your responses are in every video, it just shows how much you've progressed from all the videos from 2-3 years ago. Keep it up bro 🙏
I do like it too tho, here I feel like Cartoonshi really brushed over why a lot of people didn't like TTG (especially considering what the network itself was doing), it feels really dismissive
@@ARStudios2000 he did talk about it in another video addressing TTG and he said that it’s a cartoon that’s been beaten up to death already years prior simply over the fact that the original series got cancelled. He understands the frustration of the original fans, but he said that it’s been years since it’s cancellation and the show was never truly horrible. Yes, TTG has a lot of weak moments and crude humor, but it’s marketed towards kids, not adult fans. Therefore it shouldn’t have such an insane amount of scrutiny on it, it’s just a cartoon in his eyes
@@ARStudios2000 he mentions it a tiny bit in his recent video about how to not critique Fairly OddParents: A New Wish. I realized that he did never make an actual video critiquing TTG originally, but he referred in the recent vid that he didn’t want to make a video about that show because “it’s like beating a dead horse since it’s been out for years and many people have complained also for years.”
TTG has issue of taoing up so much tv slot time. It has unique episodes where the writers try to have fun, a majority of it feels mass produced, and that was a lot of tv time. Kinda simplifying CN as just for kids. Uncle Grandpa, as you said, just came at a bad time and its hatred was largely side effect of TTG and it didn't deserve that. Patrick Star Show, the show itself is whatever, but it the timing around it all still feels very uncomfortable.
I didn’t even know Uncle Grandpa was hated like maybe back when it’s first season was airing but by the time of season 2 I remember people singing it’s praises so I was surprised to see it on here, people just need to learn to have fun. Now if we’re talking about the show it’s spun off from on the other hand…
I'd say the biting back from the TTG writers is one of the many reasons alongside they constantly changing their stance going from "OMG its just a kids show" to "OMG so what if the show is bad". This is throwing fuel to the fire Also Uncle Grandpa is genuilly good, it reminds me of wacky old 2000's cartoons
I honestly don't give much of a damn about TTG. I'm just concerned that some of the jokes insinuate animation is only for kids and adults who appreciate animation are in the wrong
It's true. Here in Bulgaria back in 2017 I think there were parents on facebook bitching that it should be taken off from air. They were acting like this was the worst thing known to mankind
Whether or not Steve Hillenburg was involved in these spinoffs is always up for debate, but personally I look at Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show with indifferance and not worth the hate.
While the "responding to critics" episodes are indeed cathartic given the toxicity of the cartoon review community, I feel like these episodes do a disservice to the shows themselves for two reasons: 1. They reveal to the toxic critics that their attacks have touched a nerve, hence encouraging them to double down 2. They end up alienating the very demographic the show claims to be writing for (a.k.a. da children) by holding up their usual "random = funny" episodes just to respond to a community whose existence said demographic probably isn't even aware of I think the best kind of response these shows could make is simply not responding at all, and allow these pathetic manbabies to keep on shouting into the void. While I can understand why that might be hard for the writers to do given the death threats they receive, it's the choice that pays off the most in the long run by letting the toxic critics know how meaningless their temper tantrums, as well as showing respect to the younger audiences who actually enjoy their work.
They can not response, but A. That's boring B. This isn't people who understandably disliked a show. This is people actively comitting death threats because TTG was an "insult" to the original Teen Titans, who wasn't even the original, since that show was ALSO a reboot. And you can tell how strong the hate gotten for 11+ years
I could see the others being overhated but honestly Teen Titans brought the fire on itself for mocking people who didn't like the show so much. People probably would've got over it quicker.
Hot take: For a Kids show, TTG was pretty damn good. I grew up in the early-mid to late 2010s, and I remember watching TTG and getting a kick out of it. Hell, my parents got a chuckle or two out of it. Realizing that it is now 10 years old makes me feel really old. I still find it really funny that Control Freak turned into a satirical representation if the haters of the show. I have watched some of the original series as well, and it's pretty damn good as well. But honestly, it doesn't beat TTG's more comedic approach, but that might just be the nostalgia.
I remember watching these types of videos a ton when I was around 10 or 11, and I felt like an idiot for liking shows like Uncle Grandpa, Clarance, Johnny Test, and others, while not enjoying shows everyone kept hyping up like Steven Universe, Star Vs, and other more story driven shows. I didn't stop watching them, but I kept thinking there was something wrong with me. To be fair, it did get me to look at older shows and discover some of my favorite cartoons of all time, and in general I prefer shows from the 90s up to around the early 2010s in terms of art-styles and writing. Still, these people made me feel stupid, which is why I always liked how the RUclipsr Phantom Strider would always say, "If you like these shows, that's fine. It's just my silly personal opinion, and I'm glad you can see something in these shows that I can't." It was small, but nice to hear.
Yeah, TTG isn't my thing, but I have to admit I do not understand why people despise when it wasn't really that offensively terrible, just kind of stupid. Everyone took TTG way too seriously, when it wasn't even meant to be.
I wish people gave Clarence more credit when it first came out. Sure it wasn't perfect and it had it's moments of immaturity like you'd expect from a kid's show but damn was it a breath of fresh air compared to what most networks were airing.
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The only thing with the SB spinoffs is that they decided to do all of these AFTER Steve's passing. It does come across as though they were literally waiting for him to be out of the picture (literally) so they could start on their other stuff
Teen Titans Go!'s style of writing is similar to that of The Fairly OddParents. The only reason why TTG gets more hate is because FOP is more nostalgic than a "reboot" of a show that was airing during it's peak. TTG also premiered the same year FOP switched to HD, and Timmy getting a dog who was present for one season then left. Both shows even had episodes poking fun at the British and making gender stereotype jokes. Like FOP, TTG should've ended much earlier, however it''s still airing after 11 years.
Very few from what I can recall. The earliest instant of a character farting in TTG was in the Laundry Day episode, where Beast Boy (as a pig) farts in Robin's face, causing him to faint.
@@happaxgamma depends on the amount if they did it more than three times this it was probably always bad and should not be compared to and actually funny cartoon( still not the worst thing in the world)
Fairly OddParents isn't really that funny, it's mean-spirited,, cliched as heck, and predictable, and most of the characters are stereotypes. SpongeBob has way more high-brow clever humor, which is why some of it's earliest episodes are still remembered and how memes are spawning from them.
Man I never understood the hate for Uncle Grandpa. Yeah it was the pinnacle of 2010’s “so random” humor but it still had passion in it that no other show had. My mom loved Uncle Grandpa despite hating that typical “style” of show
ben 10 ommiverse was another show that got hated on for no valid reason when it was new, mfs took one look at the change in artstyle and said the show was ass it wouldnt be until the reboot where ppl gave it a chance and eventually came to like it
its be cause the writing was a bit iffy same with the last season of alien force i believe kuro the artist did a video about it but omniverse on its final season writing was fine but too little too late i suppose
5:43 Hot take: I don't find Teen Titans OG as dark as people make it out. There are a lot comedic episodes like Mad Mod episodes, Mumbo Jumbo episodes, the dating episode, the Employee of the Month and etc. Sure there are serious like the Slade and Raven episodes but Slade barely shows up and they are far between. Hell even TMNT 2012 ( a show that made by the creators of Teen Titans OG ) has more darker moments than Teen Titans OG like the Rat King episodes, Super Shredder episodes and the horror parody episodes like Within The Woods and there are some body horror with the mutants
Finally, someone says this. Whether it was TTG's more meta episodes, or fans of the original who probably haven't seen it in a while, the goofy side of Teen Titans 03' always seem to be conveniently ignored. While there are for sure high stakes & tension, OG TT could get pretty silly at times with all the examples you mentioned, plus the general use of wacky anime-style faces & the sarcastic remarks from Raven & other characters. It's almost like an earlier version of Rise of the TMNT, if anything...
agreed! my favorite episodes were the killer moth ones that went all-in with the goofiness and then it turned out they were some of the most hated for not being serious or lore heavy. i honestly think the show was at its best when it balanced the story with a little bit of cheese
i've noticed that people will call any cartoon that handles serious topics "dark", it's pretty annoying. the original ATLA is a really damning example. the way people talk about it online would make you think it's a dead-serious political drama and character study, when in reality, it just doesn't talk down to its audience.
I would say it's the fact that some of the serious moments are spread out between comedy makes it work to the point of such word of mouth. Especially when it really hits hard when they do. And I don't think people ignore the silly bits of shows like TT OG, ATLA, or even Batman TAS and TMNT '12; It's just highlighting when the show hits hard with it's highs.
Like man I completely forgot how shocking the whole episode of Birthmark. It shows me that the Disney S & P team will never have the balls to show scenes about creepy pedophiles (Slade) to kids
Good video, just gonna add some additional context for peeps reading in the comment section: Teen Titans Go! - So while I agree the hatedom was and still is absolutely overblown, it is worth pointing out that A.) The first of those callout episodes, The Return of Slade, also wasn’t particularly received well by Go! Fans either - they actually wanted to see what that version of Slade was like - and a large amount of hate was blasted towards rant reviewers for “forcing” the crew to make a callout episode, so I’m sure that didn’t help. (It’s also a big reason as to why Slade is the main villain of the movie, so it all worked out in the end, but at the time it was just an ouroboros of everyone shouting over each other.) And B.) TTG never really stopped making those episodes, and in fact actively goaded haters and escalated shit on their end to a ludicrous degree, up to and including a Season 5 teaser at the end of the movie (fun fact: a good chunk of the existing crew worked on the movie and were in fact *kinda* pissed they added that in there, and Tara Strong further fanning those flames probably didn’t help). Hence the TTG vs TT direct-to-DVD movie. To a point I can respect it, but when you’re getting to a point where you’re making a crossover special that’s saying the same things over and over again for 10 years - regardless of circumstance - yeah…it gets a bit old. I respect the hustle, but only so much. (Another fun fact: in contrast, The Night Begins to Shine specials are some of the most-watched specials/episodes from the show, cuz outside of the movie, it’s the one thing both sides can agree on being really good.) Uncle Grandpa: This was both a case of bad timing, and it coming right off the heels of Secret Mountain Fort Awesome and Problem Solverz and other stuff flooding the network. Understandably, people assumed that Pete Browngardt, who worked on SMFA, using the same character introduced in that short and using a very similar artstyle meant it was gonna just be more gross-out stupid shit and critics online rolled with it. Though even back then, most people moved on to other shows to hate cuz Uncle Grandpa was just kinda alright. Because of the formula of the shows/skits, once you’ve seen one episode, you’ve seen ‘em all and can probably say all you can say about it in one. That’s not to say it ain’t funny, or well-written, it’s just way harder to bash. As for The Patrick Star Show? …Yeah I got nothing, they kinda nailed their bite-back episode. And while I’m sure the feelings of the crew and what they thought “Stephen would’ve wanted” are wildly varied, that’s not our place to speculate.
Great video! I always loved Uncle Grandpa before it was cancelled and i also liked Teen Titans Go's first seasons more and the Patrick Star Show always seemed kinda decent to me. Im glad to see people actually love these just like me and im glad you made this video! Keep it up! 👍
As someone from a fandom that helped to shape the cartoon analysis community (for better or for worse), and one that apparently has had a problem with people sending out death threats... I think this is a message everyone needs to see.
I remember when they were testing the waters with the Teen Titans shorts, those shorts were funny as hell and a great break in between more serious cartoons during the early 2010’s DC block on CN. Like literally it came out of nowhere and suddenly we were hearing our favorite VA’s from the original series. Had they simply kept making shorts it probably would have maintained that great writing and not outstayed its welcome. Bringing back the original show would be nice too but I stand by that I don’t like the show but it’s still here so it’s earned recognition as a success I suppose
I remember liking TTG when I was younger, it was actually one of my favorite shows at the time. Yeah, there were definitely some things you could criticize about it, but it was pretty funny due to how batsh!t insane it could get at times. When I was hearing about the hate this show got, it was disheartening sure, but eventually I accepted it because I sorta had a thing for liking shows and movies widely considered to be trash. Anyways, good job as always ☺️👍
Hey man, I really just want to say you really open my eyes to all these shows, and now I have more understanding and different opinions for all three of these shows. Thank you.
Kenny Pittenger & Casey Alexander Worked On Uncle Grandpa They Also Worked On The Patrick Star Show Without The Patrick Star Show They Would Only Be Showned In Kamp Koral
When I was younger, around maybe 7 or 8 when it was passed my bedtime, and my parents were asleep, I’d get up, turn on the tv, not long before or after teen titans go played, and id watch the episodes of ttg and the amazing world of gumball and then go back to bed, i enjoyed the shows
I think almost all the frustration came from story heavy media we adored being ended/overshadowed by sillier cartoons. I know I grew up on Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Regular Show, and that contributed to me being unwilling to watch the newer stuff that was sillier. Especially considering I was developing into a teenager, which thought ALL silly shows were dumb and shouldn't be aired. I actually like some shows I actively hated when I was younger.
I agree! I watched a few episodes of The Patrick Star Show and I enjoyed them.. the hate is ridiculous for a false statement who people want to still hate..
I remember LOVING the OG Teen Titans and when I saw TTG coming out, I just thought to myself: “Ahh, seems like a comedy series. Less into that. Oh well, moving on.” Not sure why so many people fixated on it so much. The humor seems lame, but it’s such a nothing burger of a show that it blows my mind so many people were obsessed with it. I dunno, maybe I’m too much of a well adjusted adult to understand 😂
bruh it was because it took up like 75% of the airtime of all cartoons so if you didn't like it you were screwed. I hated it before knowing it was even a reboot because it just sucks even outside of that context especially compared to the shows it takes the airtime from
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The fact that the OG Teen Titans show was cancelled definitely contributed to the reaction towards Teen Titans Go!.
Yeah most of the hate came from fans of the original who were pissy that it wasn't brought back
That and the bitterness in the reboot’s writing. The show seems to hate its old and current fans. Plus, the fact they used a make a wish kid as a meat shield. The hate is honestly justified but not for the usual reasons
@Leeloo_the_fox It not for you then. It for little kids
I honestly remember only 1 poop joke in TTG and I've seen most episods@Leeloo_the_fox
@Leeloo_the_foxthey know and mention it in the series with this one villain who can control tvs
It’s not as lame as it sounds lol he can pop out of it see the 4th wall come out of the tv etc
"If the entire world is against Uncle Grandpa, I'm against the entire world."
Same fam same
Fr dude fr
Bars bro bars
Agreed
same
Uncle Grandpa was ahead of its time. People EAT UP surrealist/non-sequitur humor nowadays, and had it come out today (and on Adult Swim), I think the reception would be VERY different.
I agree
Uncle grandpa is just a grosser version of smiling friends but for kids
it was one rainbow away from going from surrealist humor to random=funny millenial humor but I've always loved it
why is that so perfect?@@greendoritoman2464
Yeah. I enjoyed it at the time as well
I shall never forgive the cartoon community for slandering Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. Not every cartoon needs to have a grand story and can be great while focusing exclusively on comedy!
Let’s not get it twisted, they’re nothing special. Not even in CN’s top 50. But let’s not pretend they haven’t made worse and shows that had less effort and passion LMAO
Agreed
@@SketchSpooksbitch clarence is peak
No one ever said those cartoons needed a grand story. Does SpongeBob have a grand story? 😂
@@user-x7dc2pq7n Yeah I hated Uncle Grandpa because it was ugly. Clarence rocked though
I’ve always held the opinion that Uncle Grandpa would’ve been way less shat on during it’s initial run if it aired alongside Chowder and The Misadventures Of Flapjack. The show has a lot of great comedic bits that are often overlooked. The Beary Nice and Hotdog Person segments are delightfully fucked up.
Your not wrong.
my favourite is that ric flair just appears for a episode
Absolutely
Yeah I never got why uncle grandpa got so much hate when rlly it has basically the same sense of humor as Chowder, which is beloved (The creator worked on Chowder and wrote some of the most popular gags) I don’t think uncle grandpa is as good as Chowder but still
Yeah, uncle grandpa just had the WORST luck showing up when Cartoon Network shows are becoming more story driven AND when the TTG hate was at its peak
Ugh. I hated Teen Titans Go too, but eventually once Cartoon Network stopped obsessively airing it I gave up and moved on after the initial “What the hell is this?” reaction.
How has the hatred lived longer than the reason why it started?!
The Pat…no, no, forget it, the show is O.K.
Agreed
Fr
I don't even know why this show get hated (it might because I live overseas and a lot of ppl here doesn't know what is TTG)
Ok yes
But not that great
It doesn't help they kept poking the hornets nest of the people who loved the original series on purpose
Hate is a strong word, I feel repulsed by it.
My initial rejection came from how the O.G. TT series got axed and seemingly this skin walker of a show came in its place. The voice actors are the same, it contains many of the same gags the original series had, but those gags were a small part of the OG series, brief moments of levity interspaced with interesting and sometimes series topics/stories.
Insult to injury, there are brief moments where they tease that the "GO" team might actually... go... do hero stuff, cause ya know they are all teen super hero/side kicks. But then it quickly moves on at the speed of ADHD.
It really is skin walking, its wearing the personality, quirks and flavor of TT, but its not. The comics of TT had them doing hero things, the OG animation had them doing hero things, GO? might as well be looney toons with a side of teen drama painted with a TT pallete.
I might have just been indifferent had the OG TT coexisted alongside the GO version, like a way to show the wacky day to day hijinks of some very special teens as a bigger levity break between the angst of the OG series. But no, it was replaced.
So I find the series repulsive, because it is coopted, like gaming, like every geek hobby, yet another thing taken over and hollowed out.
@@svenstevenson2245Teen Titans Go did not "come in the original's place" It was clearly a separate thing and was made like 8 years after the original ended. There is no obligation for it to be like the original. It has the original cast, yes, but there are clearly no intentions to take the characters as seriously as the original show. It's simply not meant for you.
all uncle grandpa did was saying “good morning” and it was cool af and yall hated him
real
JUSTICE FOR MY GOAT
I find this very funny because the idea that his catchphrase being something so jolly and polite yet the show got the reception that it did
Aunt Grandma > Uncle Grandpa
Blud did eat some kids homework for no reason in one episode tho
Fr, all Uncle Grandpa did was say “good morning” and was chill asf and people hated him
But he looked like a pedo
I mean he crashes into buildings every time he makes his appearance
@@kruellzer0877
And? That is based
The main reasons TTG was hated
1.- OG Teen Titans was cancelled, and the idea of a new teen titans show as good, except instead they got a random show for little kids
2.- It was overused by CN, many people dont even cared about TTG, but when you're a fan of another CN show , and you know your favorite show was being pushed or cancelled for a marathon of 75% airtime of TTG, that pissed you off
3.- It made fun of people's missing the OG Teen Titans, and that just fanned the fire of people who hate it and people who didnt care until then.
Personally i don't feel like TTG was a bad show in comedy, but i feel like they could've accomplished something as good had they chosen another IP.
Honestly every episode that referenced the original show only to make fun of it just felt like poking the hornet nest of hate.
Remove that and it's pretty harmless.
This. They could’ve giving the spotlight to some lesser known DC characters
I feel it does have some good episodes and gags
The problem is that they did it with the titans (who they also made into unlikable selfish idiots for a lot of episodes) and they also spammed the show so Damm much while making fun of the upset fans who missed the old show
It also helped revive the trend of cartoon reboots which have been mixed to say the least.
That and probably the fact that the parody got more seasons than the actual OG show
Honestly, the first 2 where me. After that I just moved on with life and enjoyed watching the classics.
I only watched maybe 2 episodes of TTG because of being in a hotel and I was bored. The Two I watched where pretty funny, but left me feeling like I ate a bag of chips by my self. I had its merits, but absolutely was not my cup of tea.
Also funny because I thought it was relatively liked across the board because it was everywhere and everyone I talked to loved the show, and any RUclipsr I had watched talked (in passing) about it in a good light.
I’ll be honest, I mostly ignored TTG, but my annoyance mostly came from CN filling up their entire schedule with just TTG until Adult Swim came on.
But that’s more on CN.
Agreed
Yeah, I'm now realizing that 90% of my problems with this show aren't with it but with CN themselves
@@nellewoodruff6337 eh I hated CN for making it on so much but doubly so because I hated the actual show with a passion and didn't even know at the time there was an og teen titans
@InevitableOption-ic2vx stop this
Tbh, I don't get the hate of Uncle Grandpa. It deserved better.
It just came out at the wrong time. It was also airing at the same time as Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Regular Show and it was the complete opposite of those shows earning it a lot of ire it didn't deserve. If Uncle Grandpa came out now or CN brought the show back for reruns like they have been doing with Clarence, I think it would preform soooo much better.
Never hated Uncle Grandpa, even as a 13 y/o who followed a few cartoon reviewers at the time.
It wasn't a GREAT show, but it was wacky, harmless fun. And unlike, say, the Titans from Go!, Uncle G himself was a nice (if kinda weird) guy who wanted to help kids feel better about themselves half the time.
I haven't watched it since then (& tbh, I don't have a strong desire to either, no shade), but I'll always member it as a fine addition to CN's lineup back in the day...
It’s just a run of the mill show only for kids not sacrilegious as people like mr enter would like you to believe
@@staringcorgi6475
I don't even remember Enter having anything to say about UG...
If it came in the early 00s people would have loved it. It gets off cow and chicken vibes
Finally we acknowledge that uncle grandpa wasn’t that bad
Uncle granpa solos the universe
When did we agree on that from my experience everyone loves Uncle Grandpa and it's garbage though 😂
uncle grandpa was the goat because he lived and survived through the HBO Max purge by hiding next to Steven Universe.
i didn't know someone hates Unclke Grandpa... is it me or that's weird?
@@moniqueperkinsmpthat reminds me he is technically on Disney plus too if some people got the hulu bundle thing
Maybe I was from a different side of the internet, but I barley saw any hate for Uncle Grandpa. The general consensus was that it was an ok show.
I think most of the hate was immediately when it came out. Just a year or two later I think ppl stopped being so harsh
I remember ttg originally being advertised as just "the titans on their day off" or whatever and for the first season, it was actually pretty accurate to that and I enjoyed it a decent ammount, I just got tired of the show when Robin being bullied or his ass were 90% of the jokes
I didn't even hate it and honestly I liked the animation. Starfire and blackfire had cute designs
Yeah I remember that too
Camp camp gets such a bad wrap just because it’s Rooster Teeth, even tho it’s peak.
Camp Camp is good, shame it's probably cancelled now.
It's great
@@fruitloops2058 It might not be if they're able to sell it
@@kirbyboycoolness6734yeah I hope tubi or Amazon buys it(mostly because they already have the show on thier app)
people hate camp camp? 😭
If uncle grandpa aired in the 90s people would be praising it today as peak animation and saying shit like "damn they dont make cartoons like this anymore"
Exactly
The sheer level of hatred TTG got made it damn near impossible to give an honest opinion on it for a very long time. I didn't particularly care for it, but I was almost embarrassed to ever admit that given the absolute sea of hatred the show was drowning in.
Ikr
The company kinda deserves that hate not the cartoonists cos u cant just change the personalities of beloved characters, if u want new style develop new characters or make the older characters go thru character development to change into new one, maybe idk all the teen titan heroes are hynotised to act silly
I'm gonna be frank TTG is a Mid show at best, when they lean less on having the characters being so annoying/unlikable and lean more into the DC lore, it can be pretty good.
But I'll play devil's advocate and say that most of the hate it has gottten besides the usual complaints is that CN has treated it as it golden show, and has repeatedly aired marathons of it on their network way too much a while back and really got people upset.
I like teen titans go I hated the marathons of it though. But lord the marathons left so many better shows under the water.
I still rerember the times were i used to watch allot of cartoon network. But ever since teen titans go dropped it (im not even making this up) would be airing teen titans go almost the entire day, sometimes unikitty (that show also sucks ass) and in the evening it would air gumball (the only actually good show ive named so far) and the good shows like steven universe, adventure time, regular show, Clarence would air between fucking 1:00 am - 5:00 am. Who the fuck came up with this? Who is gonna watch Clarence on 2 am?
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@@corphish69fr unikitty was not good 😂
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 honestly, I couldn’t tell if Cartoon Network was trolling people with those marathons or deliberately trying to kill other shows with them
Uncle Grandpa was Xavier Renegade Angel made for kids
(i count that as a good thing)
edit: HOLY SHIT, YOU JUST MENTIONED IT!!
Xavier Renegade Angel had a method to its nonsense. Uncle Grandpa reeks of a boomer executive making what he thinks kids will like. Poo Poo comparison.
I think a big reason both Teen Titans Go and Uncle Grandpa were so reviled is because most Cartoon Network shows from the late 2000s/early 2010s were really mature and adult. Regular Show was an absurdist workplace comedy about twenty-year-olds. Adventure Time often had deeply mature themes, tempered by silliness, but genuine depth. Teen Titans had the same depth, incredible animation, and even their silly episodes had a mature tone. Scooby Doo Mystery Inc and Young Justice both had overaching storylines and mature themes. Generator Rex, Samurai Jack, Green Lantern TAS, Star Wars the Clone Wars... CN's entire block, for half a formative generation, was mature storytelling, expansive themes, serious tones, and mature animation. That all got replaced by pale, stupid, dated imitations of previous shows and pure comedies that incorporated a lot of random equals hilarious humor. I distinctly remember hating these shows because they weren't the kinds of shows I grew up with, just obnoxious kids stuff.
To be fair, I do distinctly remember when TTG was first starting the people marketing it said TTG and Teen Titans were one in the same. TTG was 'What the Titans do when they're not fighting crime' which probably sparked the initial backlash and hatred for it.
I remember people roped in then president of Cartoon Network Christina Miller into rants about Teen Titans Go. A lot of poorly scripted rants.
I just want to point out Teen Titans GO has a skit where the 60s teen titans fight President Nixon with the help of the ghost of John F Kennedy. While I don’t think teen titans go is good, I do congratulate them for that one skit.
Timestamps:
1:50 - Teen Titans Go
7:00 - Uncle Grandpa
9:19 - The Patrick Star Show
Funny enough, I think alot of the hate for Uncle Grandpa came about from Steven Universe fans, cause their show had a crossover with Uncle G, and it made fun of some things on Steven Universe (like UG being Rose, the "ship" sinking of Lars and Saddie, etc.), and while I do think Uncle G is good, I can see why people don't like its comedy
As for TTG, I used to be someone who hated it big time (esp. when it took up all of CN's schedule for no reason), but I just stopped caring, and let it go. It's pretty easy to do
I can understand the hate with The Patrick Star Show and TTG, but what did U.G do?! The hell?!?!
i assume for the SU crossover and the mere idea of a grandpa being more than a grandpa (jokes of poor taste)
i dont get it either !...
When it comes to Uncle Grandpa, I think another big reason people hated it was the crossover episode with Steven Universe. This was back during the early days of SU, when it was showered with praise. Seeing Uncle Grandpa take the piss out of a more serious show like Steven Universe, pissed a lot of people off.
It’s a shame because that episode was really funny
More like Poopen Poopyveese
Johnny Test-I'm the most needlessly overhated modern cartoon.
TTG, Uncle Grandpa, The Patrick Star Show-Hold my animated beer.
"Hold my animated beer-stand-in"*
Johnny Test ended almost a decade ago.
@USANATV2007 Just like for these shows. I remember when Johnny Test hate was everywhere and how overblown it was. Now TTG especially has unseated it as the number one most hated cartoon.
@@GeneralKenobi75 honestly though Johnny test got blasted way too much. Maybe it’s just me but the whip cracking really wasn’t that bother some
I didnt know it was hated what???
One reason for the massive hatedome around Teen Titans Go-which strangely, you brought up but didn’t connect as a reason-is that very piss-yellow chart at 6:36. A lot of people who didn’t even hate the show that much DID hate having it forced upon them for hours, days, or weeks on end if they wanted to watch Cartoon Network at all. It’s not a GOOD reason to hate the show but it’s at least a little more than “this isn’t like the original Teen Titans.”
I remember, for a while, the standard positive critique for anything on Cartoon Network was saying it’s better than Teen Titans Go.
Whenever a show got canceled, they kept asking why Titty G wasn’t canceled. Even when (most of the time) said show was worse. Ex trip moon.
you're so correct about the weird sheep mentality a lot of cartoon fans have. i remember i was really young when all the teen titans go hate was being spread around and i was a really huge fan of the show, but then i saw like one singular video on how it sucks and i was suddenly stuck on the idea that this show i used to love was actually reallu bad the whole time. i remember it escallated to me telling everyone at school to stop watching it and they all just immediately agreed
Uncle Grandpa was PEAK and I will DIE on this fucking hill.
I still loved Uncle Grandpa
Me too
Teen Titans is the Fortnite of cartoons. A loud minority hates the hell out of it--some of the hate makes sense--but it continues to go and has only become bigger over the years
Also, I might get hung for this, but I actually enjoyed Uncle Grandpa
Top 3 Hot Takes:
1. Uncle Grandpa is peak
2. Classic SpongeBob = (Some of)Modern SpongeBob
3. TTG was good
I will always love uncle grandpa.
almost every day, i watched uncle grandpa with my grandpa, and he absolutely loved it and laughed alot to it.
it has a special place in my heart and without a doubt one of my favourite cartoons ever.
also dont worry, my grandpa is doing good :)
Cartoon lovers: Modern cartoons shouldn't have gross out humor
Tiny toons Animaniacs ed edd and eddy: *are we a joke*
Correction, cartoons shouldn't RELY on gross-out
@@zombiehunter2956shows back than did too like the brothers grunt which is why people hated it
Animaniacs was the goat so they're not a joke
@zombiehunter2956 Yeah, but uncle grandpa didn't do that i think
@@Ashley._17. it dialed back on the gross out
Uncle Grandpa is great imo. A goated series with goated characters. Mr Gus, Pizza Steve, Belly Bag, GRFT, Tiny Miracle, Beary Nice, Hotdog Person, Evil Wizard, and obviously...Uncle Grandpa are hilarious characters and are worth the watch. I thank Pete Browngardt for making such a coke induced series that played a big part of my chilhood.
And Weird Al too.
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Please God tell me this isn't real
@@lexis_trash4480 no its real. theres a trailer for it on netflix 💀
@@lexis_trash4480 it's real, it's coming out on Friday on Netflix i think
@lexis_trash4480 unfortunately it is
Its gonna be a netflix original movie
The WHAT movie?!
The patrick star show controversy is funny because even the smoking gun doesn't really hold up
Because in fairness to Paul Tibbet, it was made clear that he thought camp coral was gonna be a NickJr spin-off for babies
In the quote he gives from Hillenburg he's mocking the idea of a 'SpongeBob babies'
Like Looney Tunes babies
And after the series actually came out Tibbet was asked about what he thought of it and he admitted the show wasn't what he thought it would be, praised it for sticking to the tone and humor of the main series and said he liked it.
It's insane to me that anyone still tries to use Paul as a point against the show when the guy they're weaponising said he liked it
Late Night pales and watch mojo be like-
TTg is definitely overhated but it’s not like it’s a good show either. In my opinion atleast
Edit: fuck the Patrick star show
ITS an (MOSTLY) okay Show but it aint what people knew about teen titans
The Patrick Show is pretty much the only cartoon airing currently that isn't dogshit
My view on it is the same. It's not the worst animated show or anything on CN, but I do think it's one of the worst animated shows CURRENTLY airing new eps at the moment
My favorite part of TTG was the whole B.E.R phase, it was really interesting and the designs were…something! Like, it’s the main thing I remember about the show besides Robin getting shit on. (and also Robin’s brother who lived in his eye..? Still don’t understand what that was about, to be fair…)
I just wished the writer would lean into the genuinely better parts Cartoonshi referred to rather than some of the more…strange bits. (Referring to the whole Raven power up scene in the TTG movie…and the focus on butt humor.)
I honestly dislike TTG because it's kinda when the trend of creators showing contempt for their fanbase started taking off.
It probably was the HBO Max purge that flipped people’s opinions on Uncle Grandpa, helped by the powerscaling community of all places. This led to people watching the show in hindsight and appreciating it more as a result.
Also, I unironically think the “Lady Legasus” episodes from TTG are some of the best. Writer’s barely disguised fetish and it’s hilarious. I enjoy the moments with allusions to the wider DC universe.
Can’t say much about the Patrick Start Show, but having binged Alex Bale’s theories, the show is cool for trying to piece together lore tidbits and the like.
I used to watcy Teen Titans Go all the time when I was younger, much to the dismay of my mother and brother. I never understood how it was so hated, I always thought it was a good show.
I'm quite happy to see someone who isnt relentlessly bashing the show
Honestly, I never really understood the hate that Uncle Grandpa had.
Maybe it's because I watched it a lot growing up, but UG was one of my most favorite shows on Cartoon Network.
I'd place it right next to Adventure Time, TAWOG, MAD, and TDI in terms on how good it was.
The only reason I could think Uncle Grandpa was hated is maybe because it was technically a "successor" to Secret Mountain Fort Awesome. The Uncle Grandpa episode of that show was basically a Pilot for the series and with how bad of a reception SMFA got, people were VERY skeptical
The episode of teen titans go that stuck with me the most was the one about pig Latin, and because of that episode, I know how to decipher it.
Looks like Cartoonshi's back after that incident last week!
BASH THE BANDICOOT!
@@zacharysousa898 YAY!
Teen Titans Go may have immature humor and cringey moments sometimes, but I grew up with it and I look back on the episodes I loved as a kid quite fondly. I also think that the Teen Titans Go movies are unironically good lmao. And while I think the original Teen Titans is absolutely awesome, Teen Titans Go is going for a completely different demographic, yet people acted like they shat on the Mona Lisa or something
Cause it did. No matter how you look it, the comparisons will be made because the characters look strikingly similar and the TTG is 10 times more immature. It's frustrating that garbage got to continue when the original was so amazing, even now. It doesn't matter if it was made by other people, the idea is just insult. Also, I don't believe the original marketing helped if I remember correctly. They did reference the original TT.
The characters are even inconsistent within the show itself.
One moment one character will be serious about something (Which would in a normal situation be stupid but this is TTG so you know something is gonna happen) while the rest don't care or are dismisive of it then its another character then another.
@@kelp7060 a show being immature doesn't mean it's garbage, honestly, it's funny getting you og teen titans riled up, you all are a laughable bunch
It's insane that Teen Titans Go is 10 yrs old, and it is still going on today. Also the fact that this series eats up the entire schedule on CN. Even I was on the hate wagon too, but after years later I stopped hating it.
Teen Titans Go: Nah We’d Suck
Balls
Dipped in sulfuric acid
And melted batteries
*_-D1CKS-_*
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I actually liked TTG when it began, it really fell off when they started whining about the audience…
I used to watch Teen Titan go a lot as a kid. There were some episodes that inspired me and made me giggle
You're telling me that I've been gaslit that the crew and cast have been mocking fans of the OG TT for simply wanting it back, but in reality, mocking "fans" who attacked the cast and crew, sending death threats to them for just working on thebshow they hate simply because its not the original show?
Who would've figured
Oh my God, FINALLY someone doesn’t hate on The Patrick Star Show. Honestly, currently TPSS Season 2 is MUCH better than SpongeBob Season 14
Also what else contributed to the hate on TTG def had to be the animated short that was made before TTG came out and it kinda lowkeyy gave TT fans false hope that the original show was finna be back.
Your videos have made such an increase in quality over time, glad to have seen and been here for all of it.
I always love how level-headed your responses are in every video, it just shows how much you've progressed from all the videos from 2-3 years ago. Keep it up bro 🙏
I do like it too tho, here I feel like Cartoonshi really brushed over why a lot of people didn't like TTG (especially considering what the network itself was doing), it feels really dismissive
@@ARStudios2000 he did talk about it in another video addressing TTG and he said that it’s a cartoon that’s been beaten up to death already years prior simply over the fact that the original series got cancelled. He understands the frustration of the original fans, but he said that it’s been years since it’s cancellation and the show was never truly horrible. Yes, TTG has a lot of weak moments and crude humor, but it’s marketed towards kids, not adult fans. Therefore it shouldn’t have such an insane amount of scrutiny on it, it’s just a cartoon in his eyes
@@indiscretixn ah I see. Which video was it?
@@ARStudios2000 he mentions it a tiny bit in his recent video about how to not critique Fairly OddParents: A New Wish. I realized that he did never make an actual video critiquing TTG originally, but he referred in the recent vid that he didn’t want to make a video about that show because “it’s like beating a dead horse since it’s been out for years and many people have complained also for years.”
@@indiscretixn thanks for the info
TTG has issue of taoing up so much tv slot time. It has unique episodes where the writers try to have fun, a majority of it feels mass produced, and that was a lot of tv time. Kinda simplifying CN as just for kids.
Uncle Grandpa, as you said, just came at a bad time and its hatred was largely side effect of TTG and it didn't deserve that.
Patrick Star Show, the show itself is whatever, but it the timing around it all still feels very uncomfortable.
I didn’t even know Uncle Grandpa was hated like maybe back when it’s first season was airing but by the time of season 2 I remember people singing it’s praises so I was surprised to see it on here, people just need to learn to have fun.
Now if we’re talking about the show it’s spun off from on the other hand…
I'd say the biting back from the TTG writers is one of the many reasons alongside they constantly changing their stance going from "OMG its just a kids show" to "OMG so what if the show is bad". This is throwing fuel to the fire
Also Uncle Grandpa is genuilly good, it reminds me of wacky old 2000's cartoons
I honestly don't give much of a damn about TTG. I'm just concerned that some of the jokes insinuate animation is only for kids and adults who appreciate animation are in the wrong
Um what? What you trying to say here?
I feel the same about it.
I’m glad to see a content creator going deep into the cartoons that got a lot of hate.
Wait uncle Grandpa is Hated.
I really liked that one…
It's true. Here in Bulgaria back in 2017 I think there were parents on facebook bitching that it should be taken off from air. They were acting like this was the worst thing known to mankind
The Uncle Grandpa episode was the best episode of Steven Universe
Whether or not Steve Hillenburg was involved in these spinoffs is always up for debate, but personally I look at Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show with indifferance and not worth the hate.
While the "responding to critics" episodes are indeed cathartic given the toxicity of the cartoon review community, I feel like these episodes do a disservice to the shows themselves for two reasons:
1. They reveal to the toxic critics that their attacks have touched a nerve, hence encouraging them to double down
2. They end up alienating the very demographic the show claims to be writing for (a.k.a. da children) by holding up their usual "random = funny" episodes just to respond to a community whose existence said demographic probably isn't even aware of
I think the best kind of response these shows could make is simply not responding at all, and allow these pathetic manbabies to keep on shouting into the void. While I can understand why that might be hard for the writers to do given the death threats they receive, it's the choice that pays off the most in the long run by letting the toxic critics know how meaningless their temper tantrums, as well as showing respect to the younger audiences who actually enjoy their work.
They can not response, but
A. That's boring
B. This isn't people who understandably disliked a show. This is people actively comitting death threats because TTG was an "insult" to the original Teen Titans, who wasn't even the original, since that show was ALSO a reboot. And you can tell how strong the hate gotten for 11+ years
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I could see the others being overhated but honestly Teen Titans brought the fire on itself for mocking people who didn't like the show so much. People probably would've got over it quicker.
Hot take: For a Kids show, TTG was pretty damn good.
I grew up in the early-mid to late 2010s, and I remember watching TTG and getting a kick out of it. Hell, my parents got a chuckle or two out of it. Realizing that it is now 10 years old makes me feel really old. I still find it really funny that Control Freak turned into a satirical representation if the haters of the show.
I have watched some of the original series as well, and it's pretty damn good as well. But honestly, it doesn't beat TTG's more comedic approach, but that might just be the nostalgia.
I remember watching these types of videos a ton when I was around 10 or 11, and I felt like an idiot for liking shows like Uncle Grandpa, Clarance, Johnny Test, and others, while not enjoying shows everyone kept hyping up like Steven Universe, Star Vs, and other more story driven shows. I didn't stop watching them, but I kept thinking there was something wrong with me. To be fair, it did get me to look at older shows and discover some of my favorite cartoons of all time, and in general I prefer shows from the 90s up to around the early 2010s in terms of art-styles and writing.
Still, these people made me feel stupid, which is why I always liked how the RUclipsr Phantom Strider would always say, "If you like these shows, that's fine. It's just my silly personal opinion, and I'm glad you can see something in these shows that I can't." It was small, but nice to hear.
Yeah, TTG isn't my thing, but I have to admit I do not understand why people despise when it wasn't really that offensively terrible, just kind of stupid. Everyone took TTG way too seriously, when it wasn't even meant to be.
FUCK IT , BREAD WINNERS WAS GOOD FOR ME , I DONT CARE , I LOVE MY BRAIN SMOOTHIN
The Bread Maker was a god.
I remember liking the show lo
I would've done so much to see Uncle Grandpa air again,it was my comfort show..and then truly the hate was random quite often.
Absolutely based video, really need more takes like this in the cartoon community.
I wish people gave Clarence more credit when it first came out. Sure it wasn't perfect and it had it's moments of immaturity like you'd expect from a kid's show but damn was it a breath of fresh air compared to what most networks were airing.
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i hope this video reaches more of the general public because i'm so SICK of how awful its been to talk about spongebob nowadays
I also agree with you
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The only thing with the SB spinoffs is that they decided to do all of these AFTER Steve's passing.
It does come across as though they were literally waiting for him to be out of the picture (literally) so they could start on their other stuff
Teen Titans Go!'s style of writing is similar to that of The Fairly OddParents. The only reason why TTG gets more hate is because FOP is more nostalgic than a "reboot" of a show that was airing during it's peak. TTG also premiered the same year FOP switched to HD, and Timmy getting a dog who was present for one season then left. Both shows even had episodes poking fun at the British and making gender stereotype jokes. Like FOP, TTG should've ended much earlier, however it''s still airing after 11 years.
Did ttg have fart jokes in season 1 ?
Very few from what I can recall. The earliest instant of a character farting in TTG was in the Laundry Day episode, where Beast Boy (as a pig) farts in Robin's face, causing him to faint.
@@happaxgamma depends on the amount if they did it more than three times this it was probably always bad and should not be compared to and actually funny cartoon( still not the worst thing in the world)
Also that comparison is stupid. Fairy odd parents does not make episodes about haters
Fairly OddParents isn't really that funny, it's mean-spirited,, cliched as heck, and predictable, and most of the characters are stereotypes. SpongeBob has way more high-brow clever humor, which is why some of it's earliest episodes are still remembered and how memes are spawning from them.
Man I never understood the hate for Uncle Grandpa. Yeah it was the pinnacle of 2010’s “so random” humor but it still had passion in it that no other show had. My mom loved Uncle Grandpa despite hating that typical “style” of show
ben 10 ommiverse was another show that got hated on for no valid reason when it was new, mfs took one look at the change in artstyle and said the show was ass
it wouldnt be until the reboot where ppl gave it a chance and eventually came to like it
For real, people only changed it because of Derrick J Wyatts art style being seen as “childish”. No one dares disrespect Derrick J Wyatt!
its be cause the writing was a bit iffy same with the last season of alien force i believe kuro the artist did a video about it but omniverse on its final season writing was fine but too little too late i suppose
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Hot take: I don't find Teen Titans OG as dark as people make it out. There are a lot comedic episodes like Mad Mod episodes, Mumbo Jumbo episodes, the dating episode, the Employee of the Month and etc.
Sure there are serious like the Slade and Raven episodes but Slade barely shows up and they are far between.
Hell even TMNT 2012 ( a show that made by the creators of Teen Titans OG ) has more darker moments than Teen Titans OG like the Rat King episodes, Super Shredder episodes and the horror parody episodes like Within The Woods and there are some body horror with the mutants
Finally, someone says this.
Whether it was TTG's more meta episodes, or fans of the original who probably haven't seen it in a while, the goofy side of Teen Titans 03' always seem to be conveniently ignored.
While there are for sure high stakes & tension, OG TT could get pretty silly at times with all the examples you mentioned, plus the general use of wacky anime-style faces & the sarcastic remarks from Raven & other characters.
It's almost like an earlier version of Rise of the TMNT, if anything...
agreed! my favorite episodes were the killer moth ones that went all-in with the goofiness and then it turned out they were some of the most hated for not being serious or lore heavy. i honestly think the show was at its best when it balanced the story with a little bit of cheese
i've noticed that people will call any cartoon that handles serious topics "dark", it's pretty annoying.
the original ATLA is a really damning example. the way people talk about it online would make you think it's a dead-serious political drama and character study, when in reality, it just doesn't talk down to its audience.
I would say it's the fact that some of the serious moments are spread out between comedy makes it work to the point of such word of mouth. Especially when it really hits hard when they do. And I don't think people ignore the silly bits of shows like TT OG, ATLA, or even Batman TAS and TMNT '12; It's just highlighting when the show hits hard with it's highs.
Like man I completely forgot how shocking the whole episode of Birthmark. It shows me that the Disney S & P team will never have the balls to show scenes about creepy pedophiles (Slade) to kids
better overhated than underwatched hehe
Good video, just gonna add some additional context for peeps reading in the comment section:
Teen Titans Go! - So while I agree the hatedom was and still is absolutely overblown, it is worth pointing out that
A.) The first of those callout episodes, The Return of Slade, also wasn’t particularly received well by Go! Fans either - they actually wanted to see what that version of Slade was like - and a large amount of hate was blasted towards rant reviewers for “forcing” the crew to make a callout episode, so I’m sure that didn’t help.
(It’s also a big reason as to why Slade is the main villain of the movie, so it all worked out in the end, but at the time it was just an ouroboros of everyone shouting over each other.)
And B.) TTG never really stopped making those episodes, and in fact actively goaded haters and escalated shit on their end to a ludicrous degree, up to and including a Season 5 teaser at the end of the movie (fun fact: a good chunk of the existing crew worked on the movie and were in fact *kinda* pissed they added that in there, and Tara Strong further fanning those flames probably didn’t help). Hence the TTG vs TT direct-to-DVD movie. To a point I can respect it, but when you’re getting to a point where you’re making a crossover special that’s saying the same things over and over again for 10 years - regardless of circumstance - yeah…it gets a bit old. I respect the hustle, but only so much.
(Another fun fact: in contrast, The Night Begins to Shine specials are some of the most-watched specials/episodes from the show, cuz outside of the movie, it’s the one thing both sides can agree on being really good.)
Uncle Grandpa: This was both a case of bad timing, and it coming right off the heels of Secret Mountain Fort Awesome and Problem Solverz and other stuff flooding the network. Understandably, people assumed that Pete Browngardt, who worked on SMFA, using the same character introduced in that short and using a very similar artstyle meant it was gonna just be more gross-out stupid shit and critics online rolled with it.
Though even back then, most people moved on to other shows to hate cuz Uncle Grandpa was just kinda alright. Because of the formula of the shows/skits, once you’ve seen one episode, you’ve seen ‘em all and can probably say all you can say about it in one. That’s not to say it ain’t funny, or well-written, it’s just way harder to bash.
As for The Patrick Star Show? …Yeah I got nothing, they kinda nailed their bite-back episode. And while I’m sure the feelings of the crew and what they thought “Stephen would’ve wanted” are wildly varied, that’s not our place to speculate.
Interesting topic to talk about
Great video! I always loved Uncle Grandpa before it was cancelled and i also liked Teen Titans Go's first seasons more and the Patrick Star Show always seemed kinda decent to me. Im glad to see people actually love these just like me and im glad you made this video! Keep it up! 👍
As someone from a fandom that helped to shape the cartoon analysis community (for better or for worse), and one that apparently has had a problem with people sending out death threats... I think this is a message everyone needs to see.
I remember when they were testing the waters with the Teen Titans shorts, those shorts were funny as hell and a great break in between more serious cartoons during the early 2010’s DC block on CN. Like literally it came out of nowhere and suddenly we were hearing our favorite VA’s from the original series. Had they simply kept making shorts it probably would have maintained that great writing and not outstayed its welcome. Bringing back the original show would be nice too but I stand by that I don’t like the show but it’s still here so it’s earned recognition as a success I suppose
I remember liking TTG when I was younger, it was actually one of my favorite shows at the time. Yeah, there were definitely some things you could criticize about it, but it was pretty funny due to how batsh!t insane it could get at times. When I was hearing about the hate this show got, it was disheartening sure, but eventually I accepted it because I sorta had a thing for liking shows and movies widely considered to be trash. Anyways, good job as always ☺️👍
Hey man, I really just want to say you really open my eyes to all these shows, and now I have more understanding and different opinions for all three of these shows. Thank you.
amazing video man I really enjoyed it!
I love how the skyboxes in TTG are sometimes just stock PNGs, I honestly think that’s hilarious.
Kenny Pittenger & Casey Alexander
Worked On Uncle Grandpa
They Also Worked On The Patrick Star Show
Without The Patrick Star Show
They Would Only Be Showned In Kamp Koral
nah casey alexander hasnt returned to the franchise, only kenny pittenger
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Is Name Keeps Being Showned In The Opening Credits
When I was younger, around maybe 7 or 8 when it was passed my bedtime, and my parents were asleep, I’d get up, turn on the tv, not long before or after teen titans go played, and id watch the episodes of ttg and the amazing world of gumball and then go back to bed, i enjoyed the shows
The Patrick Star Show is a friggin masterpiece and those who say otherwise are just believers of those false rumors ☝🏽
agree its better than the main show rn (compared season 2 of pss to season 14 of sb)
I think almost all the frustration came from story heavy media we adored being ended/overshadowed by sillier cartoons. I know I grew up on Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Regular Show, and that contributed to me being unwilling to watch the newer stuff that was sillier. Especially considering I was developing into a teenager, which thought ALL silly shows were dumb and shouldn't be aired. I actually like some shows I actively hated when I was younger.
All Uncle Grandpa did was want people to have a good morning and people hated him for it.
Uncle Grandpa is the goat
I agree! I watched a few episodes of The Patrick Star Show and I enjoyed them.. the hate is ridiculous for a false statement who people want to still hate..
I remember LOVING the OG Teen Titans and when I saw TTG coming out, I just thought to myself:
“Ahh, seems like a comedy series. Less into that. Oh well, moving on.”
Not sure why so many people fixated on it so much. The humor seems lame, but it’s such a nothing burger of a show that it blows my mind so many people were obsessed with it. I dunno, maybe I’m too much of a well adjusted adult to understand 😂
bruh it was because it took up like 75% of the airtime of all cartoons so if you didn't like it you were screwed. I hated it before knowing it was even a reboot because it just sucks even outside of that context especially compared to the shows it takes the airtime from
12:42 I'm glad I grew out of it cuz I haven't watched this weird show since 2022 and I was just focusing on school and RUclips and movies and stuff.